What is and What Should Never Be - Led Zeppelin | Guitar Lesson

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  • @allrequiredfields
    @allrequiredfields 19 дней назад

    Oh man, there's not a snowball's chance in hell he played this on his Tele. This is his Les Paul, though and through.
    It's my all-time favorite guitar sound since I first picked up a guitar in 1992, and when I finally got to see the setup he used for II (in a video he made for the Metropolitan Museum of art exhibit he was a part of a few years ago) it absolutely blew my mind because I knew right then and there, that THIS was THE sound, and I finally got to see the guitar/amp set-up he used for 85% of II because the tone was so unique, there was simply no denying this was THE setup he used for II.
    To be fair, I can understand why some might think it wasn't his Les Paul, as modern ones don't sound a ton like the vintage ones - and perhaps as important, the amp (sort-of combo) he used for most of II was a bizarre and exceedingly rare combo of the incredibly short-lived Vox 4120 head through the speaker cabinet of the equally rare Rickenbacker Transonic (a combination that will run you close to $20k today - if you can even find either of them) and not his Marshall which he actually purchased in the middle of recording II and can be heard on the solo-only of Heartbreaker.
    Oh and you can see that video of him playing this setup on the Met video here on RUclips.

  • @silverwings1843
    @silverwings1843 2 года назад +3

    Very few Guitar Artist actually play what they record when it comes to Lead Word. Years back I was watching a Creame reunion with Eric, Jack and Ginger.
    I was excited to hear those incredible Leads of their Fresh Cream album. On every one of the original songs on that album Clapton just Jammed it!! I was
    incredibly disillusioned. I heard an interview once with Joe Walsh. He was asked what is going thru his mind when recorning his incredible lead work. He
    said he would always remember not to get to carried away do to the fact he was going to be called on to play it LIVE. He said Rocky Mountain High
    was a CURSE he has had to live with his entire career. Said for him to pull it off all the stars had to be aligned each and every attempt.

  • @peterdoiron6435
    @peterdoiron6435 11 месяцев назад

    I wish they still made music like this. Great lesson Doug.

  • @djhoneylove5710
    @djhoneylove5710 9 месяцев назад

    You are the fourth and IMHO most accurate lesson I have seen.

  • @islander4986
    @islander4986 2 года назад

    This is great for a geezer like me who was hearing these guys early in high school. Love playing that A13-E9 rhythm part, the slide lead and the rest. Have to see if I can't get this all down. Thanks!

  • @wooferdevlin3571
    @wooferdevlin3571 2 года назад +4

    Jimmy modded his LPs w/phase and coil split to thin them out. I think Jimmy prefers the mystery so that for all time, the key to his sound is: you have to be Jimmy Page. BTW, the Black Beauty was stolen by baggage handler at MSP airport, 1970. Jimmy got it back after the guy's widow sold it to a dealer who, round about, did blacklight test. Also, your slide work on intro, stellar: loud and quiet phrasing, vibrato, and pup' switch. Awesome stuff, dude, keep on!! Ü♫

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  2 года назад +1

      Thanks man, much appreciated. I agree he likes the mystery. I have that split coil and series/ phase mod on my LP, it does create a ton of options. Take care

    • @gib59er56
      @gib59er56 6 месяцев назад

      You just took the words outta my mouth Woof. In fact my Les Paul has out of phase and coil split wired in it and I get to the sounds via volume and tone pots.

    • @wooferdevlin3571
      @wooferdevlin3571 6 месяцев назад

      @@gib59er56 Yeah, any modern LP with PCB can be hand wired for night and day sound change. I've a modern Standard with tapping and phase=mad tele tones.

  • @richardclark.
    @richardclark. 3 месяца назад

    I knew I wanted to go thru this tonight so I already had the beginning dialed in on the neck of my LP. It sounded very close turned down. Then I just flicked to the bridge when needed. I have noticed page walks down that b chord a lot. Exactly the same part of Sick Again comes to mind but I find myself doing it every so often playing zep or Firm stuff.

  • @ZigbertD
    @ZigbertD 6 месяцев назад

    I've got a Fender Vintera 50's Modded Tele, and I definitely think that 4th position in-series position is THE sound of early Zep. Pair it with the JHS Superbolt (Supro amp-style pedal) and I'm rockin' "Communication Breakdown" for days. Anyway, great lesson, this one of my very favorite Zep tracks, it's kind of unique in their catalog.

  • @markdesod561
    @markdesod561 Год назад

    I wonder how I missed this Classic Song??? Very nice!!!! Thanx Doug!!!

  • @jeffmcelroy5437
    @jeffmcelroy5437 3 месяца назад +1

    In Jimmy Page's book Anthology, on page 136 Page writes: I played the Les Paul on Whole Lotta Love and What is and What Should Never Be and that decided it for me. It was definitely going to be the Les Paul from then on...

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  3 месяца назад +2

      Yep, got the book after I made this unfortunately. I'll be re-doing this vid

    • @jeffmcelroy5437
      @jeffmcelroy5437 3 месяца назад

      @@12footchain Awesome. Always enjoy you showing us all how the "sausage is made". Page's creative spark was burning white hot when he snatched this song out of the ether.

    • @gib59er56
      @gib59er56 Месяц назад

      @@12footchain Pagey used many guitars while recording. He played a Strat for the solo in Stairway to Heaven. and other stuff. He needed the Les Paul for its rough and ready guitar live. He felt the Les Paul was more "robust and could make it through touring. AND he had push pull knobs for a coil tap and an oput of phase sound. Like my les Paul , Trad Pro V. I have NEVER been more happy with any guitar . It plays and sounds incredible.

  • @Bob.Silverstein
    @Bob.Silverstein 2 года назад +2

    I agree with you. It sounds like a telecaster.

  • @stratman9449
    @stratman9449 Год назад

    hey this is great....gonna really check this song out....haven't come across anybody "doing" this one as good as this...cheers mate...and thx

  • @if6turnedouttobe9
    @if6turnedouttobe9 9 месяцев назад

    This is so good it's off the 12 foot chain...Zeppelin II is hands down my favorite Zeppelin album...then of course Physical Graffiti...

    • @gib59er56
      @gib59er56 4 месяца назад

      And III, HotH, IV, IttOD, LOL!!!!

  • @aert88
    @aert88 7 месяцев назад

    Jimmy Page has a post on instagram that says he used the Les Paul on Whole Lotta Love and What is and What Should Never Be, that he built the first album around the Telecaster and the second album around the sonic texture of the Les Paul Standard

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah I saw he said that in his book too. I got it wrong

  • @Hallalo
    @Hallalo Год назад

    My Les Paul cs 1959 sounds like a Tele when I roll off the volume. Great video and Page used the number on on this song according to him

  • @damonfraser253
    @damonfraser253 6 месяцев назад

    He did have the wiring changed. He didn't say how. It might have just simply rewired from the early full capacitor neck pu setting to the now normal 3 way switch. But it also could've involved series wiring. I believe he just referred to having the wiring fixed

  • @markmacdonald1849
    @markmacdonald1849 5 месяцев назад

    The bass on this song is a ton of fun as well

  • @JasonT-xp3kh
    @JasonT-xp3kh 8 месяцев назад

    I have a vague hazy memory of seeing some live footage of Jimmy playing this on the tele. Could be wrong though.
    It would have been later on in their career maybe around the time of the Knebworth show?
    The album sure sounds like a tele and I've always gotten the closest to the sound using my S1 equipped tele through a vox amp with some fuzz in front of it.
    If you get a little creative you can mimic some of his les paul sounds with the same setup.
    A lot of his sound relies more on playing technique than the particular equipment you're playing through.

  • @danielherbert8060
    @danielherbert8060 2 года назад

    Awesome. One of my favorite songs that I like so much that I’ve stayed away from so it doesn’t lose the magic. But this is so clear I’ll try it, thanks. Also, playing an American pro ii tele, so it has a push/pull series pickup option, which will be useful here.

  • @denise8557
    @denise8557 Год назад

    I agree that isn’t a humbucker sound. I always trust my ear and seems to me you pretty much nailed it!

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  Год назад

      Apparently Jimmy wrote in his anthology book that he used the LP on this song. So...maybe I may redo this vid 😀

    • @denise8557
      @denise8557 Год назад

      @@12footchain Well sounds good anyways, and informative!! That’s the real thing…

  • @robmfk6987
    @robmfk6987 Год назад +1

    I’m late to the conversation but it sounds like a Les Paul to me. I have a book named Led Zeppelin All the Songs The Story Behind Every Track and it also says Les Paul. I do appreciate you breaking this song down though.

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  Год назад +1

      Yeah, I later got the JP anthology and he says its his LP.

    • @Sean-cz2li
      @Sean-cz2li Год назад

      They used an Esquire in the studio a lot early on..

  • @Mike-hr6jz
    @Mike-hr6jz Год назад +1

    I trust your ear and I have never trusted Wikipedia because a bit political bias in certain subjects so everything I get from Wikipedia I take with a grain of salt.

  • @ro3784
    @ro3784 2 года назад

    This is a tune to seriously listen to. There is a cover band that's doing this tune. Might be interesting to listen to all versions but Led Zepplin comes first.

  • @douglasalexander4348
    @douglasalexander4348 2 года назад +1

    Very well explained, and those variations were very helpful. Did he get that thick fuzzy sound from his tone bender pedal rather than a guitar mod ?

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  2 года назад

      Could very well be. Its so hard to get accurate info on JP's gear. I think he likes to keep some mystery about it a lot of times.

    • @douglasalexander4348
      @douglasalexander4348 2 года назад

      @@12footchain He used a tone bender mk2. (Solasound) A space echo as well, which leads me to believe he didn’t mod his tele. Your right, he has selective amnesia ? and a sense of humour, bet he’s laughing his socks off at the speculative kit he used. Anyhoo, thanks for the lesson, especially your alternative ways, very interesting. BTW, I met him at a tribute concert a few years back.

  • @theaverageguitarguy7514
    @theaverageguitarguy7514 Год назад

    I’m his book the Anthology on page 136 he says “ I played the Les Paul on Whole Lotta Love and What is and What Should Never Be and that decided it for me: “

    • @theaverageguitarguy7514
      @theaverageguitarguy7514 Год назад

      In his book Jimmy Page The Anthology

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  Год назад

      You're right, I just got that book a couple weeks ago and saw that ...doh! Well, maybe I'll redo this video.

  • @riffcollection
    @riffcollection Год назад

    Awsome tutorial for an awsome song. Thank you so much. But I have to disagree on the Telecaster thing : to me it sounds so much like a Les Paul, and I can get very close to the original feel with the middle position, playing super lightly in the verse with my fingers and hiting hard in the chorus. Plus it’s well documented that this particular song has been one of the first he ever recorded on its newly acquired Gibson. There’s even picture of Jimmy with its Les Paul on the very day he recorded this song.

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  Год назад +1

      Yeah I saw that in the anthology book after I made this. Oh well

  • @Mssrmikeone
    @Mssrmikeone 2 года назад

    Awesome job

  • @savage3960
    @savage3960 2 года назад

    My mind was blown when i found out he played stairway including the solo on a telecaster. Thru a Supro amp .All I know is I need a telecaster now! 😊

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  2 года назад +1

      I came to the tele party later in life, but I now know what all those people meant when they say the Tele is a "if you only have one guitar" guitar

  • @jamiewentworth887
    @jamiewentworth887 4 дня назад

    What guitar are you playing in this video?

  • @joe429t
    @joe429t 2 года назад

    Great video. Liked and subscribed

  • @tylerthompson1842
    @tylerthompson1842 9 месяцев назад

    Spot on mate

  • @fasteddie8782
    @fasteddie8782 2 года назад

    Awesome man..thanks

  • @Weshopwizard
    @Weshopwizard Год назад

    I thought he was using Hi-Watt (sp?) amps.

  • @dominysynclair
    @dominysynclair Год назад

    Any idea which guitar he recorded For Your Life on?

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  Год назад

      I am pretty sure that's his lake placid blue strat. He uses the tremelo bar pretty heavy on it which tells me it's not his LP or tele.

  • @richard53100
    @richard53100 2 года назад

    Excellent.

  • @islander4986
    @islander4986 2 года назад

    i wonder if Jimmy isn't playing this (no third?) shape for the big E chord in the big panning outro?: 079900

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  2 года назад +2

      Yeah, probably. And may not play strings one and two

    • @islander4986
      @islander4986 2 года назад

      @@12footchain I think we may be hearing Jimmy use the same voicing (double hits) in the intro to "Good Times, Bad Times" over Bonham's cool drum part (and the verses?). Dunno', but it sounds pretty good there.

  • @avestanstudio537
    @avestanstudio537 2 года назад

    I’m betting this was a Dano tune. That would have the series middle toggle. In concert he’d need the Dano tuned to DADGAD.

  • @ROCK-vl5yw
    @ROCK-vl5yw 11 месяцев назад

    He used the Les Paul live but used that tele to record?

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  11 месяцев назад

      well...at the time i made the video a couple years back, I was speculating wiht the Tele. but Jimmy Page has some books out where he says he used his LP on that song on the record, so I think we should go with that. i may redo this video.

  • @jeffreymiddleton4063
    @jeffreymiddleton4063 Год назад

    Need travell8n riverside blues 8n tab red paul got a good tone

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  Год назад

      gotcha right here ruclips.net/video/JlKbVpem-Yo/видео.html

  • @crungechannel483
    @crungechannel483 2 года назад

    Thank you for your GREAT PERFORMANCE❗😍
    If possible plz my ZEP cover too👍😊

  • @aensley1
    @aensley1 2 года назад

    You have a great way of breaking down the song. Thank you.

  • @rrrrdavid1
    @rrrrdavid1 2 года назад

    it was the tele and vox ac30.

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  2 года назад +1

      Thats great. Is there anything documented that confirms that?

  • @rexxengineering8333
    @rexxengineering8333 Год назад

    The isolated guitar tracks sound like tele 100%

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  Год назад

      Yeah, though Jimmy says it was his LP in his anthology books, I made this vid before I saw that. But I agree it sounds a lot like LZ 1 album Tele

  • @dominysynclair
    @dominysynclair Год назад

    Definitely the Tele.

  • @roderickgful
    @roderickgful 6 месяцев назад

    Played well but the opening tone? Maybe a bad recording 🤷‍♂️
    Anyway, nice!

  • @jeffreymiddleton4063
    @jeffreymiddleton4063 Год назад

    Les paul live my wayward son said all led zep 2 paul with paf tone

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  Год назад

      yeah i learned that later, Jimmy's book has that made clear. oh well, maybe i'll re-do the video one day :-)

  • @alisterzarkar7163
    @alisterzarkar7163 11 месяцев назад

    The music was written and composed and delivered with the design and purpose of serving as a platform for improvision and experimentation. And then, for the next half of a century, aspiring musician doing their darnest to duplicate, exactly the way it sounded on the original studio recording. Does that make ant sense at all?

  • @pnca00
    @pnca00 2 года назад

    Well done Video but tomuch tak, sorry👍

  • @MrFrampo56
    @MrFrampo56 Год назад

    So wrong. I don’t know where to start.

    • @Vanguardsman
      @Vanguardsman Год назад +1

      Try.

    • @MrFrampo56
      @MrFrampo56 Год назад

      @@Vanguardsman
      I have better things to do. If you can’t hear the errors , then you should quit now.

  • @jimmyrodasmolestina979
    @jimmyrodasmolestina979 2 года назад

    Stupendous !!! Awesome 👍😎👍