I just want you to know that I only do freshwater tanks, never done saltwater, but this channel is absolutely one of the greatest things in the hobby. The level of empiricism, production quality, the great personality of Ryan, there's nothing else in the hobby quite like it!
Good continuation of the series. So far it's a great set of insight. I know my first attempt at a reefing succumbed to that lovely orange slime nightmare, with most of my first year consumed with an extreme effort to outcompete or eradicate it. Eventually I broke down the tank and dark cycled my rock for months, while adding small pieces of LFS rock with it. I also added oceans direct when I restarted it. Which overall worked for me. The issue is, I used three different approaches so I have no way of knowing which was a contributing factor nor which was a wasted effort. I most enjoy seeing how well you isolated each approach, and are able to evaluate individually. Though it's anecdotal, it's a very well designed trial. And informative. Well done BRS, keep it up.
How I bypassed the ugly cycle stages. After getting the reef tank started, a 40 gal tall set up, I started with PODS and Miracle Mud. after 2 weeks the live stock went in and i was off to the races.
@@BRStv THANKS --if you have no sump, add the M.Mud in a Fine mesh media baggie pre-soak for day or 2, put in HOB, or Canister F. or slow flow reactor. start off slow flow on those too. seed tank with scrapings of coraline from LFS or friends tank. after a few moths I added Chemi pure Elite. Never did a single water change. corals grew rampantly, they spread, split, popped up every where. lasted 7 years till Hurricane IAN knocked it out.
First, I'm a big fan of the investigates episodes and appreciate the amount of time, resources and money you've invested to bring results to the people. I have a question/possible suggestion for another episode. Recently I purchased some Caribsea Ocean Direct Live Sand. Out of curiosity I tasted it. Understandably it didn't taste good but I couldn't help but notice it also didn't taste like salt at all. Being allegedly a former substrate of the ocean and not rinsed I couldn't help but wonder why? I placed approximately one cup of the sand into a clean plastic deli container and added a teaspoon of water. After mixing the water with sand I drained it through a sieve and allowed it to settle. The water had no measurable salt content. Given the fact the sand is shipped wet and supposedly pulled from the ocean without being rinsed, how is this possible? I'm not doubting the fact it works for cycling or that it is seeded with various bacteria but I can't help but doubt the process they've claimed to use on this product. Thanks.
Hey Ryan was wondering if you could do a video on lasers for pests whether you believe in them or not. State your case and provide the reasons why good or bad? Thanks
i THINK you messed up. The tanks with Live donations needed the lights on Immediately as they would have photosynthetic problems and solutions, but the solutions need food, without the lights, No algae means theyd starve or go dormant.
We don't have an eta on when this will restock at this time, but you can sign up to be notified when it's back in stock on our website at the link below. Just hit the little 'notify me when in stock' button.
Were these tanks confirmed cycled with the drop of ammonia? Or are they simply set up with rocks, sand, and light? These results may be different since people usually immediately start cycling their tank with bacteria or raw shrimp method.
I think the first tank is the best ,the problem is you put no corals inside ,because if this the alga had the chance to take over as there is no competition for the nutriments. Generally I start my tanks in one day or two days. Add the life rocks,put life sand,put the corals and the fishes,ad bacteria. Light in since the first day.No cycling for me.
How much is the microbiome affected by the clownfish and each of those individuals likely individual microbiomes, skin excretions, gill exchange, urea excretion and GI tracts?
Hard to say based on this experiment as each system got two similarly sized clownfish. There would presumably be some small amount of micro organisms added to the tank via fish. Just don't have the data on that specifically in order to say one way or the other if and how big of an impact it had.
Complex organisms, such as fish or human and their GI tracts have very complex microbiomes. And very different one from another even if living in the same household.
Generally speaking, the longer you can leave the lights off, the better. A lot of the pest organisms that ended up showing up in these tanks were photosynthetic, so keeping the lights off longer should yield you better results.
But there's fish in these tanks? Are you saying now that it's absolutely fine for people to use sterile rock and "dead" sand and add fish straight away?
The main issue with adding fish to a new tank is ammonia. Given the water volume of these tanks and that the two clownfish added were on the smaller side, ammonia never reached a toxic level for the fish. Not to mention that many of the tanks had some sort of established media or rock being added to the tank from the beginning 🙂 If we were using something like 10 gallon tanks for this test, we would have had to be much more careful due to the smaller water volume.
@@BRStv That makes sense, thanks for replying! I've just set up a new 450 litre reef tank (marco and caribsea liferock, reeflowers pearlwhite sand) and my plan was to take some sand and rocks from my 2 year old cube but after watching this I might just let the new one cycle as itself instead! Can't wait for the rest of this series!
When anecdotal is well documented and repeatable it becomes compelling,. When compelling is repeated by the masses it becomes overwhelmingly compelling. That is about as close to fact as we get in this hobby. It has to start somewhere :)
A better way to describe this stage of the experiments may be a observational case study. www.sciencemediacentre.co.nz/coveringscience/types-of-scientific-evidence/
@@BRStv science follows the scientific method and requires publication and peer review. Your videos are entertaining marketing but they are not science and it is misleading to compare it to such.
Entire Biome Playlist. ruclips.net/p/PLBaMLrfToJyyywPKnlV7P--e6VG3umjW6
Thanks for sharing! I couldn't find anything after episode 5 and was upset thinking they weren't released!
BRS is the best thing that ever happened to the reefing and aquaria hobby. Thanks to all you do!!
Thank you very much 🙏
I just want you to know that I only do freshwater tanks, never done saltwater, but this channel is absolutely one of the greatest things in the hobby. The level of empiricism, production quality, the great personality of Ryan, there's nothing else in the hobby quite like it!
They definitely do a good job of giving no answers after hours of video
I’m at the edge of my seat watching this series and waiting for the next video to come out each week. Please stop the suspense!
I'm from Indonesia and just started a new reef tank. Thank you for this test, because I just started my cycling process using Indonesian live rock.
Thank you guys for putting so much into getting the group information to help us be successful in a difficult hobby.
Good continuation of the series. So far it's a great set of insight.
I know my first attempt at a reefing succumbed to that lovely orange slime nightmare, with most of my first year consumed with an extreme effort to outcompete or eradicate it.
Eventually I broke down the tank and dark cycled my rock for months, while adding small pieces of LFS rock with it. I also added oceans direct when I restarted it. Which overall worked for me.
The issue is, I used three different approaches so I have no way of knowing which was a contributing factor nor which was a wasted effort.
I most enjoy seeing how well you isolated each approach, and are able to evaluate individually. Though it's anecdotal, it's a very well designed trial. And informative. Well done BRS, keep it up.
Ryan should consider this as a PhD thesis in Marine Biology
You guys are the reason iam selling my planted fresh water tanks and starting a marine tank iam super excited 😄
Love the tests
How I bypassed the ugly cycle stages. After getting the reef tank started, a 40 gal tall set up, I started with PODS and Miracle Mud. after 2 weeks the live stock went in and i was off to the races.
That's a great way to start a tank!
@@BRStv THANKS --if you have no sump, add the M.Mud in a Fine mesh media baggie pre-soak for day or 2, put in HOB, or Canister F. or slow flow reactor. start off slow flow on those too. seed tank with scrapings of coraline from LFS or friends tank. after a few moths I added Chemi pure Elite. Never did a single water change. corals grew rampantly, they spread, split, popped up every where. lasted 7 years till Hurricane IAN knocked it out.
First, I'm a big fan of the investigates episodes and appreciate the amount of time, resources and money you've invested to bring results to the people.
I have a question/possible suggestion for another episode. Recently I purchased some Caribsea Ocean Direct Live Sand. Out of curiosity I tasted it. Understandably it didn't taste good but I couldn't help but notice it also didn't taste like salt at all. Being allegedly a former substrate of the ocean and not rinsed I couldn't help but wonder why? I placed approximately one cup of the sand into a clean plastic deli container and added a teaspoon of water. After mixing the water with sand I drained it through a sieve and allowed it to settle. The water had no measurable salt content. Given the fact the sand is shipped wet and supposedly pulled from the ocean without being rinsed, how is this possible? I'm not doubting the fact it works for cycling or that it is seeded with various bacteria but I can't help but doubt the process they've claimed to use on this product.
Thanks.
Be interesting to see if it's a temporal thing or a light energy thing when the balance starts to swing upwards on some of these tanks.
Hey Ryan was wondering if you could do a video on lasers for pests whether you believe in them or not. State your case and provide the reasons why good or bad? Thanks
They don't work. We have tried many here and are not even close to a solution. Was fun though :)
i THINK you messed up. The tanks with Live donations needed the lights on Immediately as they would have photosynthetic problems and solutions, but the solutions need food, without the lights, No algae means theyd starve or go dormant.
So for the control, there was no bacteria additive or Dr. Tim's? This way the biome must come off the fish, from any wet foods, stuff like that right?
Correct. Coming from the fish is certainly a real possibility.
Where can I buy Af life source for my new reef tank? I wan't to try it but it is sold out on every website and not available in any of my fish stores?
We don't have an eta on when this will restock at this time, but you can sign up to be notified when it's back in stock on our website at the link below. Just hit the little 'notify me when in stock' button.
On the dry rock/dry sand... what did you use to cycle it?
how about another tank with fiji sand, fritz, dry rock, and like 50% old water. This seems to be the most popular choice
6:00 just need a few crabs.
Were these tanks confirmed cycled with the drop of ammonia? Or are they simply set up with rocks, sand, and light? These results may be different since people usually immediately start cycling their tank with bacteria or raw shrimp method.
I think the first tank is the best ,the problem is you put no corals inside ,because if this the alga had the chance to take over as there is no competition for the nutriments. Generally I start my tanks in one day or two days. Add the life rocks,put life sand,put the corals and the fishes,ad bacteria. Light in since the first day.No cycling for me.
did you add some bacteria in the dry rock/sand aquarium?
Where can I buy aquaforest af live source? It is sold out everywhere?
How much is the microbiome affected by the clownfish and each of those individuals likely individual microbiomes, skin excretions, gill exchange, urea excretion and GI tracts?
Hard to say based on this experiment as each system got two similarly sized clownfish. There would presumably be some small amount of micro organisms added to the tank via fish. Just don't have the data on that specifically in order to say one way or the other if and how big of an impact it had.
Complex organisms, such as fish or human and their GI tracts have very complex microbiomes. And very different one from another even if living in the same household.
So, does this mean that 4 weeks into the cycle I should turn my lights on? Or should I still wait till the 4 month period?
Generally speaking, the longer you can leave the lights off, the better. A lot of the pest organisms that ended up showing up in these tanks were photosynthetic, so keeping the lights off longer should yield you better results.
Why do videos that have been released appear as new releases?
Because you found the secret leak. We release them weekly but put them in a playlist for binge watching for those who found it :)
Why do these videos seem like they are on a delayed released
We're formally releasing one episode per week, but there are more on the playlist for those who would like to watch ahead :)
But there's fish in these tanks? Are you saying now that it's absolutely fine for people to use sterile rock and "dead" sand and add fish straight away?
The main issue with adding fish to a new tank is ammonia. Given the water volume of these tanks and that the two clownfish added were on the smaller side, ammonia never reached a toxic level for the fish. Not to mention that many of the tanks had some sort of established media or rock being added to the tank from the beginning 🙂
If we were using something like 10 gallon tanks for this test, we would have had to be much more careful due to the smaller water volume.
@@BRStv That makes sense, thanks for replying! I've just set up a new 450 litre reef tank (marco and caribsea liferock, reeflowers pearlwhite sand) and my plan was to take some sand and rocks from my 2 year old cube but after watching this I might just let the new one cycle as itself instead! Can't wait for the rest of this series!
Seems very anecdotal, not sure this is really useable information.
When anecdotal is well documented and repeatable it becomes compelling,. When compelling is repeated by the masses it becomes overwhelmingly compelling. That is about as close to fact as we get in this hobby. It has to start somewhere :)
A better way to describe this stage of the experiments may be a observational case study. www.sciencemediacentre.co.nz/coveringscience/types-of-scientific-evidence/
@@BRStv science follows the scientific method and requires publication and peer review. Your videos are entertaining marketing but they are not science and it is misleading to compare it to such.
Why do I feel like all of these episodes are just repeating the same thing over and over again?