Did Josh Rosen hurt his draft stock by saying he's coming for Brady's throne? | UNDISPUTED
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Joel Klatt joins Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe to talk Josh Rosen. Where will the former UCLA QB be drafted in 2018?
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Did Josh Rosen hurt his draft stock by saying he's coming for Brady's throne? | UNDISPUTED
• Did Josh Rosen hurt hi...
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Which team will draft Josh Rosen?
Giants.
The Eagledeplhia OrleanBrowns
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What’s the name of that Canadian Football team again?
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED The Browns or Patriots.
Browns or Jets
He even contradicted himself during draft day. He said "There were 9 mistakes made ahead of me"
Then he goes out and plays like there were 200+ great picks after him
😂😂
This aged well
Aged even better 🤣
@@MultiKushie damn I was gon say that
@@kristianharalambiev7685 SO BETTER after he threw the pick 6 to the Patriots LOL
Wow, skip was dead accurate about this take
That's a rarity in itself, but he was truly dead accurate this time
Here after josh Rosen career was awful
They all going for Brady’s throne but ain’t no one will be able to touch Sean Lee’s throne 🐐🐐
Vedant Patel 💯💯💯
FACTSSSS
Sean Lee's throne? the 2.5 sack 14 interception throne? The 441 solo tackle throne?
Brian Lakeberg maybe because he gets injured ????
Tommy 1024 - He's entering his 8th year... he is injured every year... he doesn't have an NFL body or NFL skill.
He used the F word lol??? What are we in elementary school?
Spencer Bowler lmaooooo they have nothing to talk about bruh
Spencer Bowler
He said his biggest regret was using it then used it 3x. He’s being disingenuous and contradicting himself. He has this elitist, condescending aura about him that rubs people the wrong way.
ITS THE (NFL) NO FUN LEAGUE.
Spencer Bowler you completely missed the point, Josh said he wanted to be a role model and that his biggest regret was using the f word. However he went on to use it multiple times in this very interview. This guy is a walking contradiction.
Chris Lang You know who else has that same aura? Aaron Rodgers. He seems to be doing fine
If u don’t plan to be the best why are u even playing smh
Blane Ries because you love and enjoy the game
Tyreck yes but if u love the game u would strive to be the best at it
Blane Ries no, you would strive to be your best
Tyreck and josh Rosen is confident and feels his best is the goat
Blane Ries your point ? that has nothing to do with "if you don't plan to be the best, why are you playing ?"
This has aged poorly
How so?
Skip disapproves of Josh Rosen and approves of Baker Mayfield, knowing Skip’s history of predicting greatness ie. “Manziel will be bigger than Lebron in Cleveland”, “I’ll take Josh Freeman over Cam Newton” and “Give me RG3 over Andrew Luck any day”. I wonder which quarterback prospect will succeed 🤔🤔
nmj530 Imo a healthy RG3 could be just as good as Luck of better. Besides that I agree
I was thinking the same thing. Redskins messed up his injury recovery.
dont forget his tebow love
99 Problems RGKnee is trash the league caught up to what he does just like Krapernick.
How has the league caught up to what RG3 and Kaep did (zone read) when the Texans, Seahawks, and Titans run it successfully?
He been sabatoging himself so Cleveland don’t draft him 😂
Jeremy Dresnick someone finally gets it.
Might b tru but i take what we have n taylor
Genius. 😂😂😂
Exactly!!! He wants to go to a good team.
Jeremy Dresnick I think its just ESPN doing a hit job on him. They take one or two sentences from a 6000 word article and make them a controversy . The guy is 21 and he was trying to make good but noooo lets all jump on him because he is being given the same treatment by the media as a an American Presidential candidate.. He is 21 and as Klatt says he is a "beautiful player" >>I a a Cowboys fan so we cant get him but I hope the Jets or Giants take him and hopefully the New York media machine will be Ok with Rosen a guy who like Broadway Joe is bold enough to make controversial predictions
Skip saying all this even though he loved Jonny football who’s off field antics were much worse than josh Rosen
Johnny was hurting himself but this dude is saying stuff that most of any NFL locker room would hate. the NFL is 70% black and you think they'd follow this elitist white Trump supporter?
Kavin Karunathilaka he’s not a trump supporter.
Kavin Karunathilaka he hates trump
You got it! I imagine if you got Skip off the record, in a soundproof room, with 'entering the Pentagon's basement' level security, Skip would admit that he is contrary for the sake of being contrary. Right up to the week before Johnny Football's last game in the NFL, Skip was singing his praises. It was way after that when Manziel admitted he was bi-polar that Skip almost, kind of, maybe, walked back his call on Manziel. Even then, it was one of those 'I wasn't wrong, but you weren't right' type of deals.
He hurt his stock by being ambitious? Apart from the Browns, every other team wants to win so isn’t it good that he’s confident and enthusiastic
That's what I'm saying he's saying he's hungry and wants to be the best how does that hurt him
Browns are way better now then they have been in the past years
You obviously didn't watch the video
That's not being confident and enthusiastic, that's being arrogant and dumb. There is a difference. You can be humble and still be confident and enthusiastic.
Nick Foles Fan Club
Someone obviously didn’t watch the video.
I knew Skip would be mad about the Brady comment. It was the same with LeBron when people compared him to Jordan. Skip cannot handle it when someone suggests a player could be as good as his favorites. Skip is honestly THE most biased within his profession.
Josh rosen had won nothing in college. Hes out of the nfl in 3, years. Skip maybe brady biased but he knows no idiot shooting his mouth off before he's even drafted is ever gonna pass brady.
Stop it Skiiiulp!!!
Lmao
LOOOOOOLLLLLLLL
I LOVE THIS MEME
But here's the thang Skiiiulpp lmao great username shay shay
Love the name
Meanwhile Lamar Jackson won mvp but yeah Josh is the best 😂😂😂
And Baker has played well and Allen is the best quarterback out of all of them🤣🤣
@@robertsawney7901 yeah but he’s actually not
@Osamabinlaggin6n well Josh doesn’t have an mvp so yeah I can’t talk to football with you ✌🏾
@Osamabinlaggin6n well Josh Allen has a great Wr before Diggs got there tell what Allen did his career completion % is worse then Lamar he has more career ints then Lamar so he’s better because he has 1 more playoff win yeah ok sure 😂😂😂😂
@@jasonrj79 in what I mean Lamar has a better TD to Int ratio, better win %,better career completion %,etc so what is Josh better then Lamar at l’ll wait
If I’m a GM I want my QB to have this type of attitude. What’s wrong with confidence? They want him to say I just want my check and to get drafted high?
Confidence is the desire to show everyone that you are the best qb, arrogance is telling everyone around you that you are the best qb.
Talk is cheap you always want someone whose actions speak louder than words. Not surprised he turned out to be a flop
If he's focused on 7 rings already, then he won't be able to succeed at what's right in front of him. He's not actually focused
There's confidence and then there's arrogance
Damn seems like you would've lasted as a GM as long as Josh Rosen
OMG they dissect every damn word.
Cruzan26 cuz they wanna know if you speak for them.... Will you embarrass them
Forgem Nos Not the teams, the media. They do this with certain players.
What do you expect him to say: "yeah, I'm average?"
Right
Well he’s not average
He's below
He's not even average 😂
I’m from the future - he’s below average
Skip totally nailed it with Baker and Josh Rosen
Thats what you're supposed to say. Ask LaVar Ball.
FACTS
He's a trump supporter at a young age. Not good for a walking contradiction.
D Taylor Everyone is a walking contradiction if that's your definition of one
This didn't age well
He's like a politician. Everything he says is whatever is right for the situation.
These guys really bashing this kid no matter what he says or does they got a problem with it and it's sad
its like the whole of ESPN has been told to bash this kid. Cris Carter was beside himself with anger about this kid being rich and not understanding the NFL.... absolute nonsense. The kid was trying to make things right and I would like to to see a 21 year old Klatt, Sharpe or Skip not stumble in an interview at that age.If Rosen walked on water they would say "see I told you he cant swim ":)
Martin Dube this is fox sports, not ESPN btw
@@Rafflewafflez Fr
Josh Rosen would get humbled real quick playing against the best in the world
Here after he and his Dolphins won the tank bowl against the Redskins.
Joe Klatt always hitting me with some knowledge. I like this man
Kenny Goldberg lol same
What knowledge? He said rosen is an issue because he's ambitious, authentic and has interests outside of football.
I’m a simple man, I see Joel Klatt or Chriss Broussard, I press like
Lolllll
Sean Legghette if you were a real Chris Broussard fan, you'd know he does have his own thing. It's a podcast called In The Zone. Your welcome
Marko 12 so
lmaoooooooo
Slow news day. You could have said the same things about Bo or Deion. Who cares. Only thing that matters is production.
I’m really conflicted with Rosen. A couple years ago I was all about him. I pegged him as the next Andrew Luck and my Bills would be very lucky to land him when he declares for the draft. Fast forward til now and I’m actually pretty bothered by everything I hear from him. Normally I wouldn’t let a guys character overshadow his FB ability in my mind, but I can’t help it this time.
dont get caught up in the hype machine sir. When I was in college in Canada we used to watch the Bills and I remember they were once nicknamed the "Battling Bills" mainly because of the things that Jim Kelly said or did that rubbed his teammates wrong and remember Jim did not even want to come to Buffalo the first time they drafted him. Here's the thing though, when it came to game time guys like Thurman fell in line and played their butts off for Jim and that is why they went to 4 straight Superbowls... What all these hypemongers forget to say is that NFL players are proffesionals, if you win as a QB all will be forgiven, All Josh Rosen has to do is in the immortal words of Al Davis "just win baby" and things will be fine in Cheektowaga and Lackawana (I dont miss those winters up there )
you were right to think that. Luckily you guys got Josh Allen who is a star, and Rosen sadly is a total bust..
Thank God the Bills picked the right Josh, and that is Josh Allen, and he is lighting up the league right now, while on the other hand Josh Rosen is out of the league.
Next time they should cite all of Skip Bayless' contradictions but it may take 3-4 weeks of shows 🤣
Joel klatt is easily the best guest they have on this show, guy knows his stuff
Cian Talbot nah I like Chris
Wow what a great controversial and difficult topic! I got one too:
Does the Media make Up stupid debates to fill their Shows?
yep
It is just words. Every young player wants to become top dog. Josh Rosen is not the only one who talks a big game. This is just blown out of proportion.
Did he hurt his stock? No, you want a QB to say things like this. He's all in and wants to be the greatest QB to play at the position, so what is wrong with him saying this? Shows confidence, and I like that trait about him
Jimmy Her that's not what they were referring to. They brought up all his contaditions and his double talk. That's going to hurt his stock.
Confirmation bias. It affirms whatever opinion you have, good or bad.
People praise Mayfield on his “Joe Namathness” yet when you have Josh Rosen saying he wants to be the best as well and displaying this confidence just as Mayfield does shows me he has that deep competitive nature people question him on.
“Insert Curb Your Enthusiasm Theme”
Klatt is always spot on
His Junior year at St. John Bosco he went undefeated and was the national champion.
He's still trash
Since no one has said it yet.... Joy out here looking like a snack
If he goes to the Jets he will win 0/7 Superbowls
WooooW! just listen to Skip's closing statement!
HOW SWAYYY
Anthony Davis I'm old. What does sway mean
sway is a person Kanye west yelled at saying HOW SWAY HOW YOU AINT GOT THE ANSWERS MAN YOU AINT GOT THE ANSWERS look it up its funny
Yeah he hurt his stock by having goals and aspirations. I hate this time of the year cause every football show talks about literal trash. I can’t wait for the draft.
strong Brett1 couldn't agree anymore. He's humble. And they hate that.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This man will never be anywhere near Tom Brady.
Skip so triggered about the Brady comment😂
A lot of Ryan Leaf in Rosen🤓
A NFL QB is being held to a higher standard then the president of the America. 🤦🏼♂️
No one asked for your political beliefs. This is sports, not politics.
@@juliancohen9140 they didn’t give their political views lmfao learn to read
@@matthewcrane5294 They brought politics into a discussion about sports, Matthew. I don't care about their views or yours for that matter.
As a bills fan we got the right Josh
Rosen is hands down the best QB in this draft class, I really don't get the hate aimed towards this guy.
Ummmm, who’s gonna tell him
@@MrBond-tv1eu i got you, hey jake, your buddy rosen sucks and is out of the league
Rosen is the most ready NFL player? WHAT? Look at his passer rating. Please.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 NOPE
Watching this now after hearing that Belichick is interested in him. Well, if that's true, I have good news for Josh and bad news. The good news is you'll probably get some rings with the Patriots. The bad news, so will Tom Brady. You ain't never catching him, bruh.
I just hope the Giants don't pick Rosen👎
I played against Josh Rosen in high school playoffs when he was at St. John Bosco and he torchedddd us
I think Josh will make a great pro!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Undisputed on football >undisputed on basketball
Joel Klatt, and Chris Broussard should have a show together! They would put ALL OTHER sport debate shows to shame
Well, skip hates Rosen that must mean he’s good!
No
Man he sounds like a Jay Cutler clone
Nope he didn't ruin anything. He should have confidence like that. I want that on my team...
Gotta hand it to skip he was spot on
wrestling, individual sport, goes perfectly with football.
josh is smarter than all these media guys and that's why they dont like him.
REALLY Josh Rosen looks like your the mistake.
I like how we assume kids coming right out of college have everything figured out already. Give me a college grad that is not a walking contradiction.
I like this guy, he cites examples and is reasonable. Invite him back
Of course not I like that he has that kind of confidence coming to the league.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You like his sorry a$$ performance too? 😂😂😂
Each one of them are blowing this out of proportion and are hating on Rosen. Watch him succeed, and then them correct themselves.
Come on man.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The problem is he is smarter than most people that interview him. He's a scholar. His parents are certified geniuses.
I don't think people realize how much of a smartass he is. I laughed when the guy brought up him saying he picked UCLA to mess with people lol these old guys just don't get the new generation of trolling. That's the type of thing that sounds bad at face value, but I'm sure his teammates knew his personality after a week of being on the field with him.
Guys, its obvious. HES TRYING TO DODGE THE BROWNS!!!
Glad he did
0:14..... and this is why I don't care what any analysts say. You can't tell the player's heart by how physically athletic they are. Brady, Karl Mecklenburg, Bart Starr, John Randle and many more were so underrated until they kept making it on the highlight reels.
What!! Barry left b/c he was TOO Passionate to play for a dreadfully Disorganized team Committed to building around Scott Mitchell instead of him. Exactly who was he besides having 1 good year as Marino's backup.
Josh rosen couldn't even take marsha brady's throne let alone toms
As an X-Athlete before breaking my neck in 3-places & suffering paralysis, my dad instilled in me my personal ETHOS for life. That is " DON'T TELL ME WHAT A MAN SAYS.....SHOW ME WHAT A MAN DOES." In Latin it's " FACTA NON VERBE' " which translates to DEEDS NOT WORDS. " Your actions and performance on & off the field will ultimately speak louder than any WORDS THAT COME OUTTA OF YOUR MOUTH! ". This hurt Josh Rosen and I'd never draft him even if he fell to the 5th round or higher. My last life lesson is to have... "KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS, & ATTITUDE. " Knowledge can be obtained from studying film & reading & coaching. SKILLS can be obtained from coaching, and practicing day in and day out with others at your position. BUT ATTITUDE ⁉️ ATTITUDE is up to you. It should be preprogrammed into you to come work/practice with a POSITIVE, WINNING, CAN DO ATTITUDE‼️ If you have have a bad attitude it will show in your performance & rub off on every player that's looking to you to LEAD THEM TO VICTORY. Simple formulas and simple ethos to adhere too in everything in life.Wm. ~
How tf Joel Klatt and Chris Broussard carry this network and not have a show
Its 2022. Skip nailed it & Rosen hasn’t really caught on anywhere. After 4 years one would think that he would’ve used all this time to refine his mechanics, release & learn to play fast exactly as each play requires, & throw receivers open all while reading defenses quickly. He’s had years to make himself better & it hasn’t caught on anywhere. So there’s a problem there somewhere. Either he’s not good enough or he runs coaches the wrong way.
I mean Jalen Ramsey was talking before he even had a rep in the NFL as long as you back it up I don't care what you say to build yourself up.
Skip calls him out for wanting to win Super Bowls because he says hasn’t won anything yet, what do you want him to say Skip. That he wants to go 2-14 every year?
Be confident when your up and when your DOWN!
It’s hilarious and hypocritical that people will say players are too friendly and aren’t competitive enough nowadays when they talk to opponents off the field and want to join forces and stuff, but then get offended and call it disrespectful when one actually says that he wants to be greater than all the greats.
Gotta win 1 before people take you serious, but I don't see an issue with his statement. He has a goal, thats good.
He's ambitious. That's a good thing!
i really like klatt. he is a great analyst
Ryan Leaf character
Joel Klatt 👏 😂
Skip had this one right
I think Rosen is the only QB stud in this draft. I have never heard so many commentators scoff at his want to understand everything about the game (millennial stigma).
Can someone name me 1, just 1 other player that gets ridiculed for being a student of the game? I'll wait....
What is he suppose to say I want to be a sub par pro, and achieve little to no accolades...
I see their view points for the most part in this video, but every other video I've seen is just straight up bananas.
Pure passer, smart, and the want to know everything he can to succeed. Yeah, he definitely said some peculiar things, but how could that be viewed more negatively than Baker' s several incidents? I just don't understand the logic of the criticism, and how they seem to contradict as they discuss contradiction haha.
GO PACKERS
Big surprise the media doesn't like it. As a fan this is exactly what you want to hear! I hope he succeeds so the media will shut up.
Klatt the GOAT
How i feel if i was a gm or coach if a qb say i want to be the best then that's a plus people jusr try to find stuff to knock about him
Rosen has never started the season higher then the 3rd string QB on a NFL team. 3 teams within 2 seasons.
Arizona:
Sam Bradford
Mike Glennon
Josh Rosen
Miami:
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Jake Rudock
Josh Rosen
And now he's the 4th string QB in TB.
Tom Brady
Blane Gabbert
Ryan Griffen
Josh Rosen
Clearly so far hes been all talk followed by poor performances (granted tough situations) but this ultimately did not age well.
Love joy
lol
It was known years before the draft that Rosen was a tool. He proved it.
Just to clarify Rosen at Bosco was a State and National Champion
love Joel Klatt, but also, one day on the show I'd just like Shannon to tell us who dresses him lol the guy is always impeccably dressed.
The only thing I'll say is he better walk it like he talk it
jesus christ, who hates josh rosen so much that him saying he wants to win is now a problem?
Over/under 6.5 teams that read the article
Rosen outthinking himself 😂
The most beautiful player?