Well... As a Spanish I don't think they would like to fight to the death like we did to Napoleon. In fact, and I quote "Spain cannot be entered without the permission of the Spanish" -The German Fürer
I once heard Hitler said that he did not want to invade Spain, because as soon as the Germans entered Spanish territory, the Spanish would automatically organize guerrillas as they did with Napoleon. Nice video btw 👍
@@Ineverlost_control this was needed, if the germans didnt invade russia, russia would invade the germans, and they couldnt afford that so they had to secure the eastern front and were hoping for a quick war
@@weagah Yeah the Germans also probably needed resources from Russia but its kinda funny that Adolf despite learning from Napoleon still commited the same mistake.
@@Ineverlost_control You can kinda understand the mistake though, with how poorly the Soviets performed in Finland compared to Germany in Poland and France, not to mention the brown-nosers around Him doing outright lying about spy reports of Soviet weakness to gain His favour.
A nazi is not called a "no no german" most germans HATE the nazis and wouldnt even fight for germany in case of war germany is not a evil ridden ultra nationalist ridden nation anymore alr? Shut up and dont disrespect 81 million ppl like that @@Lazardeve2
ngl the invasion of Spain would probably just be like Napoleon's invasion of Spain or the French in Indochina. Anyways thanks for all these great videos you give us. Keep up the good work mate 👍
I think you severely underestimate Spain, Spain in 1939 had 200k men that were all veterans from 3 years of grueling fighting in modern warfare and in 1940 had 250k thousand men. So it just doesn’t make any real sense how Germany could break through the mountain line in the Spanish-French border so quickly which would have 200k veterans defending it most of which were religious or ideological fanatics that would rather die over seeing Spain humiliated. I still believe they would lose due to lacking an industry because of the Spanish civil war but your depiction of them falling instantly severely underestimates Spain
Spain also only had a handful of obsolete light tanks and aircraft and no ability to quickly manufacture large amounts of tanks, aircraft, and artillery. There's a reason Spain didn't join the Axis, Spain was even less prepared for war than Italy, and combat experience of the soldiery is vastly overestimated an advantage in the era of modern warfare. After all the coalition that fought Iraq in the 90s was made up of armies who hadn't seen any major conflict since Vietnam fighting the fourth largest army on earth who had spent a decade fighting Iran, and Germany invaded a USSR in 1941 who had been hardened fighting Poland, Finland, and Japan but still rolled over them at first. Spain's only hope would be that Britain might come to its aid, but seeing how Britain failed to defend a far smaller front in Greece it's unlikely the battered British army tied up in North Africa would have been able to offer much support to Spain.
@@hawawah8671Germany’s strategy is quick manouver warfare with tanks. Spain is a very mountainous country and in the 1940’s it had barely any infrastructure that could help the Germans. Also the Spaniards are a very proud country when it comes to outsiders, even after the terrible Civil War massive waves of Spaniards would rise up against the German tyranny.
@@mqdboy9278 That's largely irrelevant, Germany invaded plenty of regions with poor infrastructure and terrain, the muddy USSR, Greece, Yugoslavia, hell their breakthrough into France was conducted in such dense forests that it was considered essentially impassible to tanks. They also faced partisans in plenty of places. I'm not saying Spain wouldn't have become a cancer for the Axis tying down soldiers and probably overwhelming them as their armies collapsed before the allies even could liberate them much like the Serbs and Croats did, but it wouldn't stop the invasion. If Germany decided to keep moving after the fall of France than it's likely that from the Germans crossing the border to the collapse of the Spanish government would have been under a month.
Did this man forget that Spain is mountainous? So biltzkrieg wouldn’t work since tanks aren’t good in mountains, plus that could waste resources on Spain against guerrillas and rebels, also them even invading Spain and crossing the Pyrenees quickly is impossible and it could get Portugal and other neutral nations on the allies
I didn't forget, but Spain was poor and unstable after the civil war. I predicted that once Germany enters, the whole country would crumble. They don't even have to reach Madrid to capitulate Spain as I predicted there will be some Spanish collaborators
@@rewriting-history that may be true, but it would trigger a brutal guerrilla war in the peninsula, juat like what happened to Napoleon, besides, the Spanish Army not only have German and Italian weaponry but are also more experienced than the Germans after 3 years of war, not to mention the home/terrain advantage
This is probably why the real Operation Felix called for Spain joining the Axis with German Forces actually just fighting Portugal and sieging Gibraltar.
@@rewriting-historyspaniards and franco Would Never Surrender to Anyone lol Thats why they would Start Organized guerrilla Warfare as they did in napoleon
@@rewriting-historyalso The Africa army and The Veterans Of the Spanish Civil war Soldiers would have the Enough moral and Experience to Hold out the germans
Other people have probably said most of this, but I'll give my two cents: Spain would be an absolute nightmare to conquer and occupy, think close to Yougoslavia levels of resistance thanks to the terrain. Shouldn't Vichy France be depicted as in the axis for the entire war after the British raid on the French fleet in Algiers assuming that still happens? The NATO articles were very clear about not protecting colonial holdings, so that won't let Spain and Portugal keep their colonies (remember Goa irl).
I believe also that the Spanish would form a government in exile in its over sea’s colonies, or in Britain like most of the occupied countries did and would continue the fight like the French did from abroad
Thnakyou for adding the hoi4 template to explain what the Germans would have needed to fake Gibraltar, i wouldnt have know what you were saying without it.
10/10 video as always and I also had a video suggestion if you are interested: What if the Russian civil war ended in a Stalemate? This could be a good Oppurtunity to snatch lands from the corpse of the russian empire for all former russian states involved like the Ukranians, belarussians, the poles, the baltic states, the Don kubans and not to even mention the Japanese in the Far east where they can probably annex siberia. It's an interesting scenario and WW2 could be a hell of a lot different than in our timeline with Russia's state in the interwar period being more similar to china's warlord era at that time and the Germans could probably strike up a deal with the Whites in Exchange for help with defeating the Red army during that timeline's operation barbarossa
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I don't think Spain would fall that easily, if anything I think this would be a disaster, Communists partisans with allied support would be incredibly tumultuous, and would definitely bring a lot of animosity towards Mussolini, additionally I think Portugal will absolutely join the Allies, an Iberian front would absolutely be a logistical nightmare, you're spot on with not being a military genius because holy shit imagine trying to invade a country with decimated infrastructure and a mountain range separating it from you and your supplies, I don't think invading Spain will be that easy, Britain and Portugal will definitely make it a living hell, remember the Napoleonic wars? Spain will become Germany's Vietnam, a resource sink that will give the USSR a stronger position, alienate their Italian allies which may see Germany as a potential backstabbing conqueror one day, and will be used as further propaganda and justification by Roosevelt to increase lend-lease efforts a significant margin, not to mention that occupying Iberia costs a lot, and I don't think that a lot Spanish fascists will cooperate seeing as they only asked for more but got declared war on, if anything they'll only interpret it as an act of aggression. I really dislike this scenario, it feels a bit too unrealistic even by alternative history standards, if anything it sounds like wishful thinking compared to what will actually happen, there is a good reason why invading Spain never happened in real life, it's just too much of a hassle and this scenario does not reflect that at all in my opinion, good video though.
Not of course, they'd just form 2 army groups that have different objectives, of course they won't be equal. As I said Germany would need just 2 divisions for Gibraltar
That rock in question is probably the hardest thing to take in Europe, you'll quite need army, air and navy to take "the rock" Gibraltar is the reason why strong battlefield fortifications sometimes received a nickname called "Little Gibraltar"
Im glad you didn’t make this new series about complete Axis Victory’s, and instead explained what each scenario changes but kept the allied victory ( which is way more realistic) similar
Operation torch would be much more difficult if the axis controlled Madeira, Cabo Verde and the azores. The allies would have to take those islands before being able to land and resupply troops in Morocco.
Its possible spain joining the germans might actually have been WORSE for them since Spain was STILL recovering from the civil war and, as an independent nation, likely would've been made to guard their own coast, and the spanish army was nowhere near as equiped as it needed to be for this task., plus if/when a landing occured in spain, it would have to be ANITHER FRONT for the germas to worry about
Germany would have never achieved that. My friend, Napoleon tried to conquer Spain and for that he lost the entire empire. The germans were smart enough to not do the same mistake but not smart enough to not do the same mistake in Russia's winter.
@@Stinkert335 Napoleon's France was far stronger than ww2 Germany. Germany knew it wasnt just not worth investing in invading spain, they would loose way worst than France did (even though France did legally conquered spain, it never hold any compliance from their citizens, and after a short while the guerrillas and the main army with the help of Britain regain control of the whole peninsula)
@@ziyadrgb9584 Weaker than when Napoleon invaded the peninsula? I don't think so. In Napoleon's case, he did manage to "conquer" part of the territory, but was quickly defeated not only by the main army, but by the men and women who were regular citizens organized as guerrilla. If spain defended itself with just that at their lowest point in history, what do you think would have happened when the civil war had just ended and the people were already experienced with violence and war?
@@mercadonorfirst of all, Germany didn’t loose because of winter in Russia, in fact, they fighted for 3 winters… and they were hugely winning in 2 of them xd. Second of all napoleon wasn’t that strong, the French army wasn’t that strong, in fact, the only reason they were winning is because napoleon was a genius in comparison with every other French general, and in fact, he suicided 500.000 troops in Russia for nothing, Germany in other hand, was better in air dominance, they had better generals than most their enemies, and their army was far more advanced on using modern tactics than their opponents. Third of all, Spain didn’t destroy the French or something with that war of guerrillas, in fact, the French occupied the peninsula for a lot, and so much Spanish persons died in the process by a lot of massacres, in fact, if napoleon did things right and just not invade Russia, Spain would have remained under French control during so many more years. And fourth of all, if germany had invaded Spain in 1940, we would have surrendered faster than France, we had a silly army and infraestructure in comparison with Germany, and we had just finished a pretty hard civil war, we would have gotten overrun by the Germans pretty easily, and so the Portuguese.
Pretty interesting scenario to watch. The main thing we need to takeaway from these, is that they can never be realistic. No matter what, there are thousands upon thousands of factors that are not covered but could prove to show in real life.
"o'er the hills and o'er the main" "through Flanders, Portugal, and Spain" "King George commands and we obey" "Over the hills and far away" I just thought about it while watching the video.
I dont like your underestimation of Germany in these videos, wdym spain would fall in 2 months? France fall before a month and a half with british support!
I'm 5 minutes in and all I've over-understood is that: Germany wanted to invade Spain in 1941 to capture Gibraltar and force the UK to surrender. Mr Herr X presented a plan to the Austrian Painter to capture Gibraltar through Spain in 1941. Spain remained neutral and asked for too much so they remained neutral in 1941. For this reason Germany had to invade Spain to invade Gibraltar in 1941. This was necessary in order to invade Gibraltar in 1941 to force UK out of the war. This is why Germany was planning to invade Spain and Gibraltar in 1941. After the fall of France Germany could invade Spain in 1941 through the North and advance towards Gibraltar in 1941. Spain was neutral at that time so that's why Germany made a plan to invade Spain in 1941. The UK also fortified Gibraltar so that Germany couldn't invade Gibraltar in 1941 so easily.
@@rewriting-historyThe water on the map makes me thirsty probably (But still good video! It is mostly explained in detail and also simply understandable. Also its good that u censored that one flag)
A common mistake I see in these videos is portraying Germany to have control of the Bialostok region after the fall of Poland, which belonged to the Soviets.
As a spanish that knows about Spanish history, I would say that if spain was attacked, a lot of land would fall into the power of the local people (who were pro republica)
What if you do a timeline where Spain AND Turkey are forced into the Axis Powers. As with Turkey fully joining the Axis means that the Axis can most likely win any battles in the middle east and perhaps prevent the Allied invasion of Iran. The Axis winning in the middle east means that the Axis could also take or disable the Suez Canal which makes the Allies retaking North Africa a lot harder. Having Turkey in the Axis means Germany can directly take the Caucas territories in the beginning of the German-Soviet conflict which increases the chances of European, Axis powers suriving the war and getting a reasonable peace deal with the Allies.
Spain was willing to Join the axis until Franco saw that germany would lose, then he changed sides, standing as the last fascist dictatorship in europe
I'd say Germans would still rush to reinforce _at least_ the French front. Plus, with Soviets being far more successful, I'd doubt they'd get less. I think the allied advantages of having spain as a landing ground and Soviet advantages of barbarossa being FAR weaker could even each other out, if not give overall advantage to the soviets. Nice video though, I like this prospect.
I agree with you, as I said I don't want to have the same old historical borders, which will get boring. Imagine watching a 21 minute video just to see the exact same borders at the end, but Spain is in NATO 30 years earlier. That would be a realistic, yet boring conclusion
There is no way for Germany to capitulate Spain in 2 months: Look at a topographic map of Spain. It took the germans, italians and the other axis minors over half a year to conquer Yugoslavia and Greece, which have a slightly more mountainous terrain than Spain; but now you need to keep in mind that the Spanish army was filled with veterans and elite troops after 3 years of civil war, and they were experts on war on their own terrain. While Spain would fall due to having no industry after the civil war, I don't think it's take less than half a year. Another point to take into account is that the Spanish population was fully armed, and while I don't think leftists would join the defense of Spain, they would quickly rise up in guerrillas like those in Yugoslavia (like they rose up against Franco in our timeline), and so would rise up the carlists and a lot of falangists, draining a lot of resources from Germany, making the North Africa and/or Barbarossa campaigns a disaster
I see people saying that Spain could organize guerilla warfare tactics like it was with Napoleon but I want to mention few differences: - in napoleonic wars, invasion of iberia is just another of many, many napoleon's campaigns while operation fenix would be executed early, not so long after outbreak of ww2 -in napoleonic wars, Spain wasn't that much divided as it was after civil war -in napolonic wars, Napoleon at the time of iberian campaign, already was stretched thin
Hitler said we can't enter spain whitout the permission of the spaniards me as a spaniard kinda agree becouse when napoleon invaded he got tons of issues😎😎😎😎😎😎
Well... As a Spanish I don't think they would like to fight to the death like we did to Napoleon. In fact, and I quote "Spain cannot be entered without the permission of the Spanish" -The German Fürer
That invasion would last like 1month lol
I once heard Hitler said that he did not want to invade Spain, because as soon as the Germans entered Spanish territory, the Spanish would automatically organize guerrillas as they did with Napoleon.
Nice video btw 👍
I appreciate that! I know the video is unrealistic, but it's more interesting I believe
Learns mistakes from Napoleon but still invaded Russia
@@Ineverlost_control this was needed, if the germans didnt invade russia, russia would invade the germans, and they couldnt afford that so they had to secure the eastern front and were hoping for a quick war
@@weagah Yeah the Germans also probably needed resources from Russia but its kinda funny that Adolf despite learning from Napoleon still commited the same mistake.
@@Ineverlost_control You can kinda understand the mistake though, with how poorly the Soviets performed in Finland compared to Germany in Poland and France, not to mention the brown-nosers around Him doing outright lying about spy reports of Soviet weakness to gain His favour.
Dang i alwasy knew PewDiePie was a ultra nationalist after that bridge incident
You already know 🤣
@@rewriting-history Dude there is no way pewdiepie is a nono german. 😭
A nazi is not called a "no no german" most germans HATE the nazis and wouldnt even fight for germany in case of war germany is not a evil ridden ultra nationalist ridden nation anymore alr? Shut up and dont disrespect 81 million ppl like that @@Lazardeve2
Spain in this timeline be like : I should have taken the offer , I should have .
I wanted to make a video on what if they joined the Axis, but this scenario has already been done + my take is more interesting I think
@@rewriting-history that scenario was done many times but you put an interesting aspect to it
I think the Second Spanish Republic government would probably not join NATO since the government is heavily leftist
@Captain_Griffthat's all I am about! Doing original and interesting content
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No, they were encircled before
ngl the invasion of Spain would probably just be like Napoleon's invasion of Spain or the French in Indochina. Anyways thanks for all these great videos you give us. Keep up the good work mate 👍
I think you severely underestimate Spain, Spain in 1939 had 200k men that were all veterans from 3 years of grueling fighting in modern warfare and in 1940 had 250k thousand men.
So it just doesn’t make any real sense how Germany could break through the mountain line in the Spanish-French border so quickly which would have 200k veterans defending it most of which were religious or ideological fanatics that would rather die over seeing Spain humiliated.
I still believe they would lose due to lacking an industry because of the Spanish civil war but your depiction of them falling instantly severely underestimates Spain
Also the Spanish were experts in guerilla warfare due to the Spanish civil war so I believe they would keep on fighting even after capitulation.
Germany had over 3.5 million veterans too.
Spain also only had a handful of obsolete light tanks and aircraft and no ability to quickly manufacture large amounts of tanks, aircraft, and artillery. There's a reason Spain didn't join the Axis, Spain was even less prepared for war than Italy, and combat experience of the soldiery is vastly overestimated an advantage in the era of modern warfare. After all the coalition that fought Iraq in the 90s was made up of armies who hadn't seen any major conflict since Vietnam fighting the fourth largest army on earth who had spent a decade fighting Iran, and Germany invaded a USSR in 1941 who had been hardened fighting Poland, Finland, and Japan but still rolled over them at first.
Spain's only hope would be that Britain might come to its aid, but seeing how Britain failed to defend a far smaller front in Greece it's unlikely the battered British army tied up in North Africa would have been able to offer much support to Spain.
@@hawawah8671Germany’s strategy is quick manouver warfare with tanks. Spain is a very mountainous country and in the 1940’s it had barely any infrastructure that could help the Germans. Also the Spaniards are a very proud country when it comes to outsiders, even after the terrible Civil War massive waves of Spaniards would rise up against the German tyranny.
@@mqdboy9278 That's largely irrelevant, Germany invaded plenty of regions with poor infrastructure and terrain, the muddy USSR, Greece, Yugoslavia, hell their breakthrough into France was conducted in such dense forests that it was considered essentially impassible to tanks. They also faced partisans in plenty of places.
I'm not saying Spain wouldn't have become a cancer for the Axis tying down soldiers and probably overwhelming them as their armies collapsed before the allies even could liberate them much like the Serbs and Croats did, but it wouldn't stop the invasion. If Germany decided to keep moving after the fall of France than it's likely that from the Germans crossing the border to the collapse of the Spanish government would have been under a month.
This is a good video, but I think Napoleon wouldnt agree on Germany crushing Spain
The difference is that Napoleon didn't invade Spain just a year after they had 3-year long civil war
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@@rewriting-history that was young 2016 pewdiepie, 2024 pewds is a wholesome family youtuber
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@@P1kaSans Of course, I am just meming and people who watched PewDiePie 8 years ago, like me, know what I am talking about 😂
Thanks bro for bringing the audio tracks to other languages 🙏
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10:15 wtf, just use space marines.
Space Marines in WW2 would probably side with the austrian painter 💀💀💀
Obviously, that's how Germany could have easily won
You aren't understanding, a space marine division is just a normal infantry division with one task @DEIKO19
@@rewriting-historyWhy didn't Hitler just think of that?
Did this man forget that Spain is mountainous? So biltzkrieg wouldn’t work since tanks aren’t good in mountains, plus that could waste resources on Spain against guerrillas and rebels, also them even invading Spain and crossing the Pyrenees quickly is impossible and it could get Portugal and other neutral nations on the allies
I didn't forget, but Spain was poor and unstable after the civil war. I predicted that once Germany enters, the whole country would crumble. They don't even have to reach Madrid to capitulate Spain as I predicted there will be some Spanish collaborators
@@rewriting-history that may be true, but it would trigger a brutal guerrilla war in the peninsula, juat like what happened to Napoleon, besides, the Spanish Army not only have German and Italian weaponry but are also more experienced than the Germans after 3 years of war, not to mention the home/terrain advantage
This is probably why the real Operation Felix called for Spain joining the Axis with German Forces actually just fighting Portugal and sieging Gibraltar.
@@rewriting-historyspaniards and franco Would Never Surrender to Anyone lol Thats why they would Start Organized guerrilla Warfare as they did in napoleon
@@rewriting-historyalso The Africa army and The Veterans Of the Spanish Civil war Soldiers would have the Enough moral and Experience to Hold out the germans
Video idea what if france holded out germany
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Rewriting History in an alternate universe is going to make a video called “What if Germany never invaded Spain?”
Yooo that would be so cool
@@rewriting-historyYes, it would!
Segunda guerra de inpendencia Española. Plus Ultra 🇪🇸
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But what if Germany did cede the moon to Spain in exchange for Spain joining the Axis?
Lmao 🤣
Other people have probably said most of this, but I'll give my two cents:
Spain would be an absolute nightmare to conquer and occupy, think close to Yougoslavia levels of resistance thanks to the terrain.
Shouldn't Vichy France be depicted as in the axis for the entire war after the British raid on the French fleet in Algiers assuming that still happens?
The NATO articles were very clear about not protecting colonial holdings, so that won't let Spain and Portugal keep their colonies (remember Goa irl).
I really like your videos! they are fun to watch.
I really appreciate that! This is what I am all about!
With all the weapons from the Spanish civil war in the penisula, the Spanish resistance in this timeline would be really powerful.
I believe also that the Spanish would form a government in exile in its over sea’s colonies, or in Britain like most of the occupied countries did and would continue the fight like the French did from abroad
That's possible for sure, but don't know how this would affect everything and which Spain would have more legitimacy
Will you make video on france winning war in 1870. Then ww1 would start in 1890 bw uk russia prussia italy vs austria france and ottomans.
I have considered something similar, we'll see
@@rewriting-history ok
That could be fun.
“For brainrot terms, Germany needs to have green air and two of these divisions to take Gibraltar.” 💀
Now tell me, was I wrong? 🤣🤣
Thnakyou for adding the hoi4 template to explain what the Germans would have needed to fake Gibraltar, i wouldnt have know what you were saying without it.
I did it for the memes, but this is basically what it would look like
What if Germany actually conquered the Soviet Union in 2 months?
That's interesting, but borderline impossible
@@rewriting-history what if Enrico Fermi stayed in Italy and helped the German Nuclear Programme
@@rewriting-history Your Alternate hsitory is very good. Very Enjoyable watching.
@@rewriting-history Yes, I thought the same, that's just one of theese goofy scenarios lol
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10/10 video as always and I also had a video suggestion if you are interested:
What if the Russian civil war ended in a Stalemate? This could be a good Oppurtunity to snatch lands from the corpse of the russian empire for all former russian states involved like the Ukranians, belarussians, the poles, the baltic states, the Don kubans and not to even mention the Japanese in the Far east where they can probably annex siberia. It's an interesting scenario and WW2 could be a hell of a lot different than in our timeline with Russia's state in the interwar period being more similar to china's warlord era at that time and the Germans could probably strike up a deal with the Whites in Exchange for help with defeating the Red army during that timeline's operation barbarossa
What if the Confederacy won the civil war and joined the axis in ww2.
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What if Rewriting History failed RUclips and became the president of Switzerland?
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P.S. I loved that you called Gibraltar the British Constantinople and then proceded to make an artillery division template with an Ottoman icon (Ottomans+Artillery= Fall of Constantinople)
Omg you actually saw the secret reference! I am glad that somebody did!
Also Andorra seems great, would want to go there one day
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very cool video, but one little mistake. Austria did get help from the marshall plan, thats a reason to why they are so rich
I didn't know they got help, thanks! I wouldn't say they are rich just because of that tbh
I don't think Spain would fall that easily, if anything I think this would be a disaster, Communists partisans with allied support would be incredibly tumultuous, and would definitely bring a lot of animosity towards Mussolini, additionally I think Portugal will absolutely join the Allies, an Iberian front would absolutely be a logistical nightmare, you're spot on with not being a military genius because holy shit imagine trying to invade a country with decimated infrastructure and a mountain range separating it from you and your supplies, I don't think invading Spain will be that easy, Britain and Portugal will definitely make it a living hell, remember the Napoleonic wars? Spain will become Germany's Vietnam, a resource sink that will give the USSR a stronger position, alienate their Italian allies which may see Germany as a potential backstabbing conqueror one day, and will be used as further propaganda and justification by Roosevelt to increase lend-lease efforts a significant margin, not to mention that occupying Iberia costs a lot, and I don't think that a lot Spanish fascists will cooperate seeing as they only asked for more but got declared war on, if anything they'll only interpret it as an act of aggression.
I really dislike this scenario, it feels a bit too unrealistic even by alternative history standards, if anything it sounds like wishful thinking compared to what will actually happen, there is a good reason why invading Spain never happened in real life, it's just too much of a hassle and this scenario does not reflect that at all in my opinion, good video though.
9:39 are you really expecting to split the forces in half whe one half hs to invade a 5Km rock and the other half has to take en entire country?
Not of course, they'd just form 2 army groups that have different objectives, of course they won't be equal. As I said Germany would need just 2 divisions for Gibraltar
Im just saying that the proportions are not realistic
@@rewriting-history oh
That rock in question is probably the hardest thing to take in Europe, you'll quite need army, air and navy to take "the rock"
Gibraltar is the reason why strong battlefield fortifications sometimes received a nickname called "Little Gibraltar"
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Keep up the good work 😊😊😊😊
Appreciate that, will do!
Do an series like project kaisertum but what if Napoleon won the Napoleonic wars
Video sugestion: What if Dom Pedro I of Portugal became King of Greece? (This almost happened)
Im glad you didn’t make this new series about complete Axis Victory’s, and instead explained what each scenario changes but kept the allied victory ( which is way more realistic) similar
I am not planning to do the Axis winning as a series, but could make a video on that
Operation torch would be much more difficult if the axis controlled Madeira, Cabo Verde and the azores. The allies would have to take those islands before being able to land and resupply troops in Morocco.
I doubt the Axis would keep them for long due to them having an inferior navy
@rewriting-history true but time would have to be spent taking them nonetheless
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Basically Spain was just being bully all the video
Nice video,brother. I have a video suggestion for you. What if the Median Empire survived?
Napoleon be giggling from the afterlife. .
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Its possible spain joining the germans might actually have been WORSE for them since Spain was STILL recovering from the civil war and, as an independent nation, likely would've been made to guard their own coast, and the spanish army was nowhere near as equiped as it needed to be for this task., plus if/when a landing occured in spain, it would have to be ANITHER FRONT for the germas to worry about
Did you even watch the video? I made all of these points myself and said it's a bad idea
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I for sure will grind a lot of videos 😁
Morocco:yay finally i can have ceuta and Melilla and the sahara :)
Ceuta and Melilla is a extremelly alternative history 😂
@Benito-lr8mzif spain joined the axis spain would lose its colonies and it is possible that spain will lose ceuta and Melilla to
Actually yes
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video idea: What if Sweden stopped trading with Germany during ww2?
He already did it's called "What if sweden joined the allies in ww2?"
If Germany invaded Spain Italy might side with Spain as they are the underdog
Germany would have never achieved that. My friend, Napoleon tried to conquer Spain and for that he lost the entire empire. The germans were smart enough to not do the same mistake but not smart enough to not do the same mistake in Russia's winter.
aww yes bc napeleonic france and germany were equally strong! Its not like countries can be stronger than others or something
Spain was weak after the civil war
@@Stinkert335 Napoleon's France was far stronger than ww2 Germany. Germany knew it wasnt just not worth investing in invading spain, they would loose way worst than France did (even though France did legally conquered spain, it never hold any compliance from their citizens, and after a short while the guerrillas and the main army with the help of Britain regain control of the whole peninsula)
@@ziyadrgb9584 Weaker than when Napoleon invaded the peninsula? I don't think so. In Napoleon's case, he did manage to "conquer" part of the territory, but was quickly defeated not only by the main army, but by the men and women who were regular citizens organized as guerrilla. If spain defended itself with just that at their lowest point in history, what do you think would have happened when the civil war had just ended and the people were already experienced with violence and war?
@@mercadonorfirst of all, Germany didn’t loose because of winter in Russia, in fact, they fighted for 3 winters… and they were hugely winning in 2 of them xd. Second of all napoleon wasn’t that strong, the French army wasn’t that strong, in fact, the only reason they were winning is because napoleon was a genius in comparison with every other French general, and in fact, he suicided 500.000 troops in Russia for nothing, Germany in other hand, was better in air dominance, they had better generals than most their enemies, and their army was far more advanced on using modern tactics than their opponents. Third of all, Spain didn’t destroy the French or something with that war of guerrillas, in fact, the French occupied the peninsula for a lot, and so much Spanish persons died in the process by a lot of massacres, in fact, if napoleon did things right and just not invade Russia, Spain would have remained under French control during so many more years.
And fourth of all, if germany had invaded Spain in 1940, we would have surrendered faster than France, we had a silly army and infraestructure in comparison with Germany, and we had just finished a pretty hard civil war, we would have gotten overrun by the Germans pretty easily, and so the Portuguese.
Man this scenario makes ww2 more intense (my opinion)
Yeah for sure, it makes WW2 more interesting imo
Pretty interesting scenario to watch. The main thing we need to takeaway from these, is that they can never be realistic. No matter what, there are thousands upon thousands of factors that are not covered but could prove to show in real life.
Of course, that's why I don't even try to be realistic, I just do cool scenarios
"o'er the hills and o'er the main"
"through Flanders, Portugal, and Spain"
"King George commands and we obey"
"Over the hills and far away"
I just thought about it while watching the video.
Spain>germany
Switzerland best
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Idea for next video: What if Kingdom of Andorra survived in 1934 under Boris I?
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I appreciate this a lot!
I dont like your underestimation of Germany in these videos, wdym spain would fall in 2 months? France fall before a month and a half with british support!
they were recovering from a civil war aswell yugoslavia surrenderered in 11 days spain would be something similar they also didnt have a great army
I'm 5 minutes in and all I've over-understood is that: Germany wanted to invade Spain in 1941 to capture Gibraltar and force the UK to surrender. Mr Herr X presented a plan to the Austrian Painter to capture Gibraltar through Spain in 1941. Spain remained neutral and asked for too much so they remained neutral in 1941. For this reason Germany had to invade Spain to invade Gibraltar in 1941. This was necessary in order to invade Gibraltar in 1941 to force UK out of the war. This is why Germany was planning to invade Spain and Gibraltar in 1941. After the fall of France Germany could invade Spain in 1941 through the North and advance towards Gibraltar in 1941. Spain was neutral at that time so that's why Germany made a plan to invade Spain in 1941. The UK also fortified Gibraltar so that Germany couldn't invade Gibraltar in 1941 so easily.
17:36 u forget huge encirclement of history man
A scenario ending in a stronger NATO in the Cold War is a good scenario
Can you make a video on Iran joining the axis and invading ussr with Germany in 1941?
20:10 Equatorial Guinea will remain too?
And Ifni? Spaim wanted to stay with it
They were considered provinces, probably a lot of autonomy would be applied
3:44 cool
Glad you liked it!
What if Portugal joined the Allies in ww2?
Nothing importanr would have changed
MAN I AM ALWAYS GETTING THIRSTY FOR WATER WHEN WATCHING THESE
Huh, how come?
@@rewriting-historyThe water on the map makes me thirsty probably (But still good video! It is mostly explained in detail and also simply understandable. Also its good that u censored that one flag)
why is the German-Soviet border look like its after 1950
A common mistake I see in these videos is portraying Germany to have control of the Bialostok region after the fall of Poland, which belonged to the Soviets.
I will adjust the exact borders, but it doesn't change the reality too much, just my bad
@ No worries, videos are still high quality for how consistently they’re made. Keep up the good work
Video idea: what if Italy never invaded Greece?
Germany would.
Could you make a video about if the Holy Roman Empire didn't break up?
your forgetting that theres a chance protugal could raise an army from their colonies, they're far from a push over
I am not forgetting that, but Portugal cannot really resist Germany. I predicted that this campaign would take 6-12 months
@@rewriting-history very true
As a spanish that knows about Spanish history, I would say that if spain was attacked, a lot of land would fall into the power of the local people (who were pro republica)
Rojo detectado jejejjej (estoy de joda no te lo tomes a mal)
Next do the nazi invasion of Turkey
Oh I like it!
@@rewriting-historywhat if stalin went to war over turkish strait crisis 1936
the operations names are so gotterdammerung dlc
Lmao 🤣
It would be cool if there was a video about a german-russian alliance in ww1 but the allies (britain, france, austria) still win somehow
9:49 Coincidence lvl 100 / And on this timeline the crusaders are the British Colonies
Nahhh Spain took our "soft underbelly" Place 😭
I am glad people like this metaphor
@rewriting-history As AN Italian i can Say, yeah, Italy was Pretty weak in WW2
We beating t series with this one!!!
Ah yes, the Swedish painter
Lmao yes
What if you do a timeline where Spain AND Turkey are forced into the Axis Powers.
As with Turkey fully joining the Axis means that the Axis can most likely win any battles in the middle east and perhaps prevent the Allied invasion of Iran.
The Axis winning in the middle east means that the Axis could also take or disable the Suez Canal which makes the Allies retaking North Africa a lot harder.
Having Turkey in the Axis means Germany can directly take the Caucas territories in the beginning of the German-Soviet conflict which increases the chances of European, Axis powers suriving the war and getting a reasonable peace deal with the Allies.
Greater yougoslavia part two when?
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There you go!
Spain was willing to Join the axis until Franco saw that germany would lose, then he changed sides, standing as the last fascist dictatorship in europe
Video idea: What if Skënderbeu didn't die on 7 January 1468 from malaria and invaded the ottoman empire
What about Catalan independence?
Not independence but proper autonomy
I'd say Germans would still rush to reinforce _at least_ the French front. Plus, with Soviets being far more successful, I'd doubt they'd get less. I think the allied advantages of having spain as a landing ground and Soviet advantages of barbarossa being FAR weaker could even each other out, if not give overall advantage to the soviets. Nice video though, I like this prospect.
I agree with you, as I said I don't want to have the same old historical borders, which will get boring. Imagine watching a 21 minute video just to see the exact same borders at the end, but Spain is in NATO 30 years earlier. That would be a realistic, yet boring conclusion
There is no way for Germany to capitulate Spain in 2 months:
Look at a topographic map of Spain. It took the germans, italians and the other axis minors over half a year to conquer Yugoslavia and Greece, which have a slightly more mountainous terrain than Spain; but now you need to keep in mind that the Spanish army was filled with veterans and elite troops after 3 years of civil war, and they were experts on war on their own terrain.
While Spain would fall due to having no industry after the civil war, I don't think it's take less than half a year.
Another point to take into account is that the Spanish population was fully armed, and while I don't think leftists would join the defense of Spain, they would quickly rise up in guerrillas like those in Yugoslavia (like they rose up against Franco in our timeline), and so would rise up the carlists and a lot of falangists, draining a lot of resources from Germany, making the North Africa and/or Barbarossa campaigns a disaster
I see people saying that Spain could organize guerilla warfare tactics like it was with Napoleon but I want to mention few differences:
- in napoleonic wars, invasion of iberia is just another of many, many napoleon's campaigns while operation fenix would be executed early, not so long after outbreak of ww2
-in napoleonic wars, Spain wasn't that much divided as it was after civil war
-in napolonic wars, Napoleon at the time of iberian campaign, already was stretched thin
Hitler said we can't enter spain whitout the permission of the spaniards me as a spaniard kinda agree becouse when napoleon invaded he got tons of issues😎😎😎😎😎😎
And if history repets the spanish republic would be in constant chaos
Andorra and Liechtenstein. Sleeping giants.
Don't forget San Marino
@@rewriting-history True.
pwedipie the most dangerous personne in the World
We all know
The moment this comment was done is after you finished the video
(Am never going to stop)
Poor Andorra
Hey can you do what if everything went perfect for Haiti ?
Not right now, I prefer to do for more famous and interesting countries
Haiti humiliated for nothing lool
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10:43 Average Bulgarian road
We have it way worse
@@rewriting-history Well you havent seen average Northern Czech roads, because in this region, it is like 100 tanks drove on them...
i like how anndora is the swiss 2.0