2022 Honda Civic Review | All-New Hybrid-Only Honda Civic Could Be A Total Disaster… For Toyota! 💯🔥
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Honda is so confident in the new Honda Civic e:HEV that it's calling the car "the driver's hybrid". That sounds like a contradiction in terms, right? Not so, according to our Mark. It's brilliant. A Toyota Corolla slayer. Watch the review to find out why...
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Thanks Mark for going the extra to have the e-CVT in this fully described/explained. So many people just hear CVT and assume it will be as crap as the worst CVT’s they’ve ever driven and immediately write the car off.
Still better than DSG tho
Honda could just not out the eCvt in the "name"
If they bring a hybrid Civic hatch to the US, I'd buy it in a heartbeat! I can't think of anything else I'd want!
Agreed! I’ve been eyeing a Rav4, but a hybrid Civic Hatch might change my mind…
Same. Although after dealers get their hands on them, it will probably be around the same price as a Type R's msrp
wow. YOUR REVIEW is the only one ive seen that explains what eCVT is in detail. everyone else is basic
Thanks mate. When an engineer is there, you have to, right? 🤘🏻😁 Mark.
What? It looks so much better than the old one! Thanks for this interesting and entertaining video.
I was going to get a 2022 Insight in the US but now I think I'll wait for the 2023 Civic Hybrid that's coming to replace it. One of the biggest gripes reviewers have had with the Insight's hybrid set up is the engine not being linear with vehicle speed and acceleration. This Civic sounds quieter and more "normal".
Interesting to hear that you think it looks a bit bland and you preferred the look of the old model (which I own). Most reviewers did not like the old one with "all its fake vents" and prefer the new smoothed version. Proves you can't please all the people all of the time. I like both. Thanks for a good review.
This is a really well thought out car. Not as in your face as the previous model and now looks very smart. I would have one over any German brand as it will be more reliable, better built and engineered. Every time I watch one of your videos you seem to have grown a bit taller. Maybe last week you could have sat comfortably in the Honda. 😁
Brilliant review . I’m sure the toned down styling will appeal to my generation who loved the Accord Mk 1 back in the seventies. A car which was truly revolutionary !
Great review
You’ve just got to love Honda,alway look beyond convenient and so subtle in design,just brilliant
I didn't mind the 10th Gen civic except the rear was a bit fussy in the bumper area.. This 11th gen looks neat though some may find it bland from the side.. But that rear headroom is a concern even without the sunroof..
Looks like the 1st european Civic review! Doin’ great Mark & Vanarama!
Civic owner for 14 years, currently a 10th gen Sport Plus for the last 5 years, which I love and cost £23k new. Whilst there's a few added specs and improved mpg, there's zero chance I'll be buying this version, which is boring to look at and ridiculously expensive. Great review though, thanks!
All full hybrids are expensive.
Well that may be the last one you will ever have. The next Civic is probably only going to be EV. The new Emission regulations is changing car manufacturers, necessitating electrification on majority of their models. The only ICE models like type R are going to be very expensive.
@@debendragurung3033 I completely agree, and I am open to an electric car in the future - potentially a Civic. But, I'm sadly not a fan of this version's looks or price. Hopefully the price of electric models will reduce in the coming years as they become more mass produced.
It's so sad we don't have this version in the States!
tests with vbox, racelogic etc. show this car’s 0-100km/h speed is actually around 7 seconds dead, this is fairly typical of Japanese manufacturers to understate horsepower and acceleration figures. One thing, Honda cut weight out of some parts but it’s over 100kg heavier than the 10th gen 1.5 turbo, this will be due to the added motors and battery
It looks much better and more exciting in that Baby Blue colour👍😁
Excellent review, love this vehicle can’t wait until is goes on sale in North America.
Best new civic video,lots and lots of information,great job 👍
Great review - hit all the important points! Steering feel & ride comfort are both good, only the noise insulation needs some improvement -- maybe during facelift?
Finalyyyyy someone from Honda has explained that bullshit of e-CVT in any Honda car, also e:HEV models. There is no transmission period.
Feels like having “scared the horses” with the previous gen design they have over compensated with this, both inside and out - All a bit vanilla, and as for the floating display, well very last year …
The vw. Jetta just looks leaps and bounds better
Great review.. I'd say your reviews have 'matured', much like the Civic
Will this come to the US?
In Thailand you can buy a petrol only 1.5L turbo version. The HEV is the same 2.0L version you have.
I wish we had the pano roof here in the states
I want Honda to have a small car from the civic 2008 design. That design was so slick, the civic just keeps getting bigger, is it even a hatchback anymore?
So true about the fuel economy. My Seat Leon gives 50-55mpg - and that’s a 4 cylinder turbo.
Interior lady gen Audi A3 - exterior design far nicer than a golf. Definitely a contender for clad best with the Octavia
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Surprised you never even had the blind back on the panoramic roof, it makes the interior much lighter did you know it was there and opens as well? as you never mentioned it. You also said it doesn't feel fast, well it does to me and a 0 to 60 time of under 7 seconds (carwow and others) would suggest it actually is, an entertaining review though.
Could've put the motor from the new CRV in this Civic and it would've actually been quick. I think the crv makes 207hp and 240tq out of a 2.0L hybrid system...
that s my only one concern with this car, is it quick enough?!
Ok, it’s a hybrid. But when is it electric and when combustion and why? What does it pick when I go at 110km/h for 400 km?
I hate the terminology CVT for this drivetrain, it makes no sense. The transmission of torque is continuously variable in all cars... by the change in engine RPM. "Continuously variable" in CVT refers to gear ratio, not transmission of torque, as that would make no sense since many other factors go into the transmission of torque that have nothing to do with the CVT transmission. It would be like saying a full battery EV has a CVT because the transmission of torque from the battery is to the wheels is "continuously variable".
I have a 2019 Honda Insight, which has the previous generation of this drivetrain and many people complain that the engine drones uphill or accelerating which it does to generate more power for the battery and drive motor, and they are kind of right about the drone, it's not always the most satisfying sound. That said, I'd feel like such a tool knowing that my car's engine is just revving down for no reason other than to make me feel "cool" while losing power and efficiency. Honestly does a 2 litre engine shifting up and down sound that good anyways?
I imported the US version since my work paid for the fees. Should have gone with the e:HEV.
Great review, can’t wait to get to a test drive!
Brilliant review man thank you
Seems crazy to me the amount of effort manufacturers go to to try to convince people they're driving an ancient, inefficient transmission vehicle instead of the engineering miracle it actually is.
The side view of the Civic looks weird. The first half looks like it was part of another car, all lean and sedany. While the section from the middle of the car to the rear of the car looks like a handsome sports back. If Honda raised the front half of the boot , to make it look thicker from the sides (like the new CRV) this Civic would have looked more striking in my opinion.
They have made the rear styling look more resolved, the previous model rear end is ugly.
How tall are you? Is the room in the front enough even with the panoramic sunroof for a 6.3-193cm? The problem is that you can t get the up per trim without it.
I’m 6’4” and it absolutely fine up front, sunroof and everything. 👍
So mate which model are you driving please thanks
Designwise i clearly prefer the 10th gen. But the technical aspects of 11 seems pretty convincing.
Honestly, I also thought it looked bland. I have the 2018 Version and Ilove it. Sadly I needed a new Car dew to increased Gas prizes. So I bought the new Honda. And the More I see it, the more I like the new Design…
Wish we would get the pano roof here in the US
Pretty car. Wtf? No head room in back? Why would honda choose that design?
All very nice but the price !!!
Can i buy it in SUV version?
I like your review. And your shirt.
Would be great as an estate car!
Message from a Honda Civic Sport MT owner: Sorry Honda, I’ve loved you but you are betraying me... Time to look somewhere else.
Looks like a really interesting car but you lost me at the price. Totally ridiculous for this class of car. Great review as always though.
If you look at the average prices on the market, and you think this car is really interesting, I don't see the problem. To be honest I just bought it, so I spent that amount of money in this kind of car, but I couldn't be happier, I feel and know I have a very reliable, long lasting, safe, fun, frugal and beautiful car on my hands.
How tall you are? To take a reference 😅, I’m 1,96 m. Thanks.
I don;t care about the look of the car. To me this is the best car on the market. A smooth transition from combustion engine.
I think it will be a good idea to state the height of the person seated.
6’4” 😁
Will it come as an estate?? That would be thing do buy..
no
Thanks for the review, this looks like a definite option. The only two things I'd say is that 5.5l/100km doesn't sound any better than I got from a 1.5 Octavia on the commute to work and worse than a Focus 1.0 at 5.3, oh and a lot worse than the Golf diesel I had for a week which got around 4.4.
Of course I don't know how you(d been driving it but it just doesn't sound ground breaking.
I'd also say those extra litres of boot space get noticed most (for me anyway) at holiday time....
Out of curiosity, if I take the Octavia, the economy will generally go as well as 4.2 if I'm on a long run and driving at 65-70mph but it takes it a while to work down to that. I was wondering if that's the same for a hybrid like this or is it the opposite on a long journey as the battery gradually just becomes some weight your carrying around?
Do you understand the concept of a turbo?
@@ln5747 Yes, it uses exhaust gases to turn a turbine which is then used to compress air being fed into the engine. These days you get bi-turbos, twin scroll and even electrically assisted ones and of course inter-coolers to cool the air but I'm sure you'll find a fuller description on a wiki page if you want to know more.
you can constantly floor a hybrid and still get around 5l, try that with a normal ICE car
@@mattgreen9507 well then you should understand why you're foolishly comparing a NA 2.0 to a 1.5 and 1.0 on fuel efficiency.
Well Diesel is pretty much finished now. Despite it being more powerful, manufactures have to pay huge tax on any diesel production vehicles. Furthermore lots of countries are cracking down to phase out Diesels by bringing strict regulations on emissions, enforcing new No Diesel Zones in crowded cities , bringing out various mandatory addons like DPF filters- which severely reduces power. Unless it's for big commercial vehicles , no manufacturers are willing to bait on diesel. And for cars it is pretty much nonexistent. You can boast about fuel economy of the old diesel cars, but it's not manufacturers fault that they can no longer sustain production of diesel cars.
You don't realise but lots of manufacturers had to cancel export of certain models since the new emission regulations. Lots of their SUVs and pickups that were inherently Diesel for the high torque have all been but replaced with petrol counterparts.
The Petrol Hybrids still have some place in the market as of now, before all cars will go Electric. So unless you can afford an EV, petrol Hybrids are the one we can all but settle for.
The back of the civic is so 1990..... Amber turn signals?? I am ready to get some smoke spray paint.... Just as the nineties.
Sounds like they should have put this engine in the HRV as well,a bit pricey
We got the similar engine in HRV and honda city as well. Asia market.
Honda Genius🎵🎶
Kataro Yamamoto is on another channel examining all of this in fluent German, just to give you an idea of how big his brain is!
put a manual in it, and let it be a CRZ revival.
A mini Locomotive.
starting at 32490E
wait, so what gearbox is used when the ice powers the car? is it just a set highway ratio?
ah i found this video featuring Yamamoto: ruclips.net/video/6glpZTRT6qE/видео.html
Hi, how tall are you?
Tnx
6ft 4 😄
@@vanaramauk roughly same.. 192cm on my side
love your left greek arm
Mark sorry I don’t tend to disagree with you but come on T-shirt & fashion - did you forget a the red hat and b your in Portugal again wearing that hat?
For me I prefer the new look of this one maybe colour didn’t help - the old one had the feel of a car made by different designers ignoring each other
Great review, and Agee 100% on the looks. Honda are really stepping down on their styling, and although the previous Civic looked like it was designed in a power cut, the new car looks bland. Shame.
Maybe 2023?
I find fault in most of the Civic as it lacks technology. It’s a bland and boring car they cheapened in comparison to last year. They cheaped on noise cancellation from road and outside noise. No lumbar support and the seats are super uncomfortable.
in the brand new one?
@@oliverlowe7137 yes the new. I drove the 22 Civic Hatch that people talk about being amazing and it was not that amazing. I was really disappointed in this new update when comparing it to the 2020 I have now.
Look at how roomy it is
Space in the back ?! Wtf ? Why bother can see why everyone buys a suv nowadays.. final thought looks bogging 😹 did you get the Beenie as a gift or you getting paid to wear it ?! 😻
Estate/Tourer version? What about the Civic Shuttle, best car I ever owned?. Honda lost their way many years ago and no longer make anything "out of the ordinary" which I find very sad
only HB
If only they had fitted this engine and transmission in the new HRV, instead of the loud and inefficient 1.5 litre with CVT they fitted
I will admit CVT's scare me but Honda has a history of doing a decent job with their CVT's, partly due to their history of racing and making autos, DCTs and manuals so they have a lot of knowledge to distill into the system.
This is not a CVT, it's an eCVT. They are completely different. I have a third generation Insignt and can say that this setup is extremely reliable and fun to drive in sport mode. It has immediate acceleration. When I need another car, the civic hybrid will be my choice since they have discounted the insight to make way for this one.
@@darylhurlbut3473 Don't disagree.
Looks like a squashed HRV
That shallow boot is a problem to dog owners . Labrador sized dogs just will not fit in/be comfortable . That’s a big demographic they are missing . Maybe an estate car might follow ? Forget a suv , rover won’t be able to jump over the extra load height and you will get a hernia lifting him in lol
Course they will.
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Just like a modern Toyota hybrid.
This is all about Honda !stop yourself
Nobody buying hybrid vehicles! Double the service and repair costs!
Nothing with cheap ass CVT can be seriously considered .
it's not a cvt
@@dkolendo yes it is
@@kdomster9141 no, it's not. eCVT is not a CVT. It is a variable single speed electric drive. It doesn't have a gear box or rubber band transmission like a traditional CVT does. They are completely different. This is more reliable than any automatic, manual, or CVT transmission. This is the future. Single drive electric is the best.
@@darylhurlbut3473 ok i hear you, it is 1% of Accords on the road or less while 80% are CVT ... Correct?
@@kdomster9141 there are a ton of Hondas, Toyotas, and other manufacturers with traditional cvt transmissions. Typically Honda and Toyota make in house cvts that are quite reliable. The ones you definitely want to avoid are anything made by JATCO. They are usually problematic. They are in Subaru, Jeep, and Nissan. JATCO cvts are junk in my opinion. But this newer type of electric drive cvt (a single speed direct electric drive) is highly reliable and can perform quite well. I wouldn't buy anything with a JATCO transmission based on everything I've seen and heard. They have a higher failure rate and feel spongy to drive. I know that Toyota has a combination cvt that has a traditional first gear to get you started, then it switches to cvt above a low speed. It seems to be very functional and reliable. Honda tends to make pretty good cvts as well for their vehicles. Maintenance and how the vehicle is driven are the two biggest factors on cvt failure. Follow all manufacturers guidelines. For my car that's fluid changes every 50k (only about $150). And I drive like a reasonable person. I'm not a wreckless street racer and I'm not a retired grand pa. I just drive normal and occasionally drive it in a fun spirited away and I expect it to last as long as I need it. I don't keep anything past 120k. I drive 650-750 miles per week for work and my Insight gets an overall average of just over 50mpg and never gives me any problems. I wouldn't hesitate to get another. Infact, I'll be extremely likely to get another Honda hybrid again in two more years when I get my next business car. I hope this helps to answer your question.
Tattoo guy doesn't know how to adjust the seat. The headrest is way too low. If you are a giraffe, then adjust the f. headrest accordingly.
Thanks for the tip, internet guy. Love, tattoo guy. x
Looks like a winner to me. I've been thinking about the Jazz Hybrid, but this is obviously better.
Sorry for my poor english, i just want to say : i have bought my Honda Jazz eHEV last year and after 9 800km my average is 3,6l/100km. This eHEV technology is just amazing. I precise that before i have always drove japanese cars. 2 Nissan Micra : a one liter Micra Lagoon, then a 1,3 liter Micra Tivoli and just before the Jazz a Toyota Avensis 126d4d. Now i know, i will stay a Honda driver. In France the garantee is for 10 year. I don't know the word for "valable".
@@KRISPHIL68 Meanwhile, I have been a user of the CR-V Hybrid for 2 years, which in terms of power and torque has exactly the same system as the new Civic and it is great. The calculated average fuel consumption for 2 years is 5.3l / 100km, and the car is much heavier and less streamlined. One Honda, only Honda.
@@sunnylukk yep, I'm on my third Honda, and they've all been faultless.
I had the same dilemma. But if you try one and then the other there's no competition. Unless you need to drive only inside a city, Civic is a lot better and versatile car.
@@albertomartin4812 Agree, Alberto. I like the size and solidity of the Civic. It's a genuinely quality car IMHO.
Honda's are always brilliantly engineered. I know this through experience. Loving the sleek fastback look of this latest model.
I like the ‘plainer’ design. I owned a 2017 1.5 model and it had too much bling and tacky plastic false vents on the outside, also it wasn’t very well built both outside and inside.
Great review! This sure seems like one of the best cars ever made. May be picking one up later this year! I wish you had the engineers talk about the new 2.0, apparently it’s the most efficient 4 cylinder ever!
Bet it's not as efficient as my 2.0L e skyactiv x, I get 50mpg on shorter drives and well over 60mpg on any half decent run and yes I did say 2 litre petrol engine. test drive one before you make your mind up you will be very impressed also the interior quality from Mazda is better than a Honda.
@@pillred5974 i have a Mazda 6 right now and have tested a Mazda 3 and i have to agree that the interior is more luxurious but more cramped with smaller windows. But in Europe there is very harsh rules against ICE engines unfortunately. I consider this civic because its a hybrid. I do love me a Mazda!
Love your work Mark! Excellent review.
My current e-CVT Honda Jazz has been using this 'gearbox' for the past year. It really such a pleasant drive for the every-day person and mine offers fuel economy of 55mpg
Excellent review and road test. I've had my 10 gen Turbo for five years and still love it. We have recently bought the new Jazz eHEV which uses the same hybrid system and its incredible, love the transmission in the way it replicates gear changes, we're getting around 3.9 litres per 100km mixed driving. In terms of styling, yes they've toned it down somewhat but I love the geneneral stance and proportions, the bonnet line in particular. That considered, I'll be taking a closer look at this when it arrives in New Zealand.
It may different in your country. In Canada, this car doesn’t come in a hybrid, only the same engine options as the 10th so maybe not worth trading in yet. Edit: we will get hybrid for 2023 model year.
@@abfree5501 Since when does Canada have the new Jazz/Fit?
I sure hope they get this in the US. I was going to order a 23 Sport Touring Hatch, but if this is available I'm switching to it!
The Civic Hybrid is coming to America where I live. IMO, the only way that Honda could disappoint me with the hybrid is if they don't give us a hatchback hybrid or if the hypothetical hatch hybrid has less options than the hypothetical sedan hybrid.
I got to test drive the advance trim level here in Sweden a couple of weeks ago. And it was really, really good. Fels like a bigger car than it is. Ordered the advance trim and it should arrive in november. Can’t wait!!
There will be a time where we won’t need simulated ICE car NVH anymore. Once you get used to a EV drivetrains, you don’t want to go back.
Better than the one currently offered in the US!
Nice review. Bit boring car design. But nice technology.
A good Honda at last but the price & styling are awful 😢 I remember buying a civic for £10k
+ know longer made in the uk !
This is 2022 mate not 1992. You pay for full hybrid tech.
Got mine yesterday and its amazing.
Belting review as per 👍 quite like that, be good to see one in the metal
Why don’t new cars have Cam Corders as standard!?
Best review! Cheeky, but good with proper though “bewinked” info on interior and blandness.
I actually like the functional and boring but well built well thought through character of the car. This is a literal daily driver for years, nu fuss, no bs. Boring on the outside, happy in your wallet and always ready for adventure, the ones you do yourself by going places. With a car that constantly says yes!
Think it looks very different. No lumbar support though... At all. 👎
I didn't like the spaceship design of the older Civics. This looks beautiful.