The Twisted Secrets of Gerald's Journal Explained

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @RedX03
    @RedX03 24 дня назад +242

    Gerald really went
    “You want a weapon, fine, but it won’t be yours to use”

    • @ccelite3782
      @ccelite3782 20 дней назад +15

      This. This is how wars begin 💀

    • @SonicFanBoy138
      @SonicFanBoy138 19 дней назад +9

      Oppenheimer ahh moment 😅

    • @bargoth125
      @bargoth125 12 дней назад +1

      Peak malicious compliance at work.

  • @world-travelingpikachu9066
    @world-travelingpikachu9066 26 дней назад +382

    Hearing all this makes me feel so bad for Gerald and especially Maria. All Gerald wanted to do was heal his granddaughter, but things didn't turn out the way he hoped. But on a lighter note, It's absolutely adorable that Maria was the one to design Shadow's famous rocket shoes. AND that they've shared a close bond since day one. Considering that Maria was most likely the first thing Shadow saw when he woke up. I can't help but wonder if he had imprinted on her...

    • @angrybrony
      @angrybrony 25 дней назад +24

      Much like some sort of baby duck.

    • @Dairunt1
      @Dairunt1 20 дней назад +24

      I also feel bad for Gerald's family. They seemed to be a happy loving family until the ARK raid devastated them . According to Sonic Frontiers, Eggman might have been emotionally neglected as a kid, probably because of how similar he was becoming to the man who accidentally destroyed their lives.
      Also, it was amazing to learn about Gerald and his ego, that ended up being his undoing, thinking he could play both the president and an extraterrestrial for fools.

    • @bluefox8011
      @bluefox8011 20 дней назад +8

      @@Dairunt1 thinking of it in that way is devious but also absurd. Madman mentality, it runs in the family lol

  • @soupman941
    @soupman941 26 дней назад +293

    11:03 they got the chaos emerald from south island but couldn't find the other 6 and just decided to leave, so that's why you can only collect 6 chaos emeralds in the first sonic the hedgehog instead of the usual 7

    • @stwbmc98
      @stwbmc98 26 дней назад

      The Chaos Emeralds are changing hands and locations constantly, even before Eggman started scheming I can’t picture them staying in one place for 50 years

    • @megaplays2748
      @megaplays2748 26 дней назад +42

      Yoooooooooo that's interesting! But how did it end up on West Side Island instead in Sonic 2?

    • @Technogeek6487
      @Technogeek6487 25 дней назад +40

      @@megaplays2748 The Emeralds are drawn to each other so they most likely went to where the one emerald was located. Interesting to add the emeralds have adverse effects on various animals take Salamanders for example? So what would happen if the emeralds stayed in a location for a very long time? what would it do to the wild life there? The answer to that question is "Sonic The Hedgehog" A being who is unnaturally fast and able to channel chaos energy and unlike Knuckles and Shadow, doesn't have a lore reason as to why? more evidence to this theory is to the one emerald that was on West-side Island. While it is only one emerald, the effects could be seen in Tails who has very limited ability to channel Chaos but is on record known for being able to keep up with Sonic at his lower speeds through his mutation of two tails. Of course this is all Speculation at the moment.

    • @kennyholmes5196
      @kennyholmes5196 25 дней назад +16

      @@Technogeek6487 Small problem with that hypothesis, Tails lives and has his workshop on Cocoa Island, as evidenced by the Tails Adventure game. Tails was simply over on West Side as a bit of an investigation, and just so happened to cross paths with Sonic.

    • @Technogeek6487
      @Technogeek6487 25 дней назад +10

      @kennyholmes5196 Yeah I'm not sure of the Tails adventure is Canon or not it's why I overlooked it. I know Sky Patrol is now Canon. So was basing this purely off one not being Canon. Now if it is? You're right it does throw a wrench into the theory. Which is a shame because it would unironically make the Fleetwood orgin for Sonic being a blue hedgehog canon.

  • @JosephJohns-xi1qb
    @JosephJohns-xi1qb 23 дня назад +101

    You can feel kind of bad for Gerald, I took note of the sheer amount of hubris he displays throughout it. Being labeled a genius might be the worst thing that ever happened to him.

    • @SonicTheory96
      @SonicTheory96  23 дня назад +34

      Yep, he really thought he would have a solution for everything which ended up causing him more harm in the end

    • @archabolt1446
      @archabolt1446 18 дней назад +7

      @@JosephJohns-xi1qb in some ways it's similar to Shadows predicament, his label the ultimate lifeform. He legitimately tries to be perfect, but it's impossible to be perfect. He is a much more strict/ disaplined than Sonic, he can do anything, but he's being manipulated by the expectations of other flawed beings. Not to say he himself can't mistakes too. Beyond just messing with his memories whether it was Gerald, G.U.N., or black Doom's telepathy causing him halucinations that may cause him to do things he did not intend. The Archie Sonic (universe) shows a period of time where Shadow loses control and is brain washed by the telepathy into working for the black arms while separated from Rouge and Omega. Not sure if it's cannon or not, but the possibility is still there based on the level where Doom Eye messes with Shadow's perception of Reality. If that were the case, G.U.N. may have a very good reason to have him locked away again, as he's powerful and has the potential to be controlled by the enemy.
      Here's a twist is Maria dead, if she still were was it really G.U.N. that killed her? What if that was Black Doom manipulating him into attacking Earth in SA2, when it was the black arms who killed Maria. More horrifying what if Maria never existed in reality? She was always a hulucination that both Shadow and Gerald were manipulated by from the black arms. That would be very awful and sad. I couldn't imagine what affect that would have there's so many possibilities. It's hard to fully know what's real. Like schizophrenia.
      Haven't finished Sonic x Shadow generations yet, so I could be missing some lore.

  • @jerryxpgaming4682
    @jerryxpgaming4682 26 дней назад +415

    Gerald is hiding the mustache care routine 👀

    • @Player_circle
      @Player_circle 26 дней назад +81

      It's a family secret

    • @SonicTheory96
      @SonicTheory96  26 дней назад +49

      😂

    • @rockinggamerdude
      @rockinggamerdude 26 дней назад +11

      Well, one would it be possible for a real person to have a mustache like that and too if it is possible then yeah then it must be kept secret

    • @ariel_kuznetsova_
      @ariel_kuznetsova_ 25 дней назад +7

      My new head-canon 👍

    • @RizingZero
      @RizingZero 19 дней назад +1

      Pages 1 to 35 hide it 👀👀👀

  • @kanekikingstorm2113
    @kanekikingstorm2113 26 дней назад +99

    Maria is so gaunt in this image. At 26:26. I cant imagine the fear and the pressure that was sitting on Dr. Geralds heart watching his granddaughter be wrought by illness. Especially with hearing your very co-workers doubt her illness.

  • @morganlogan9955
    @morganlogan9955 26 дней назад +125

    Love how he says “perfect in every way” as that is a reference to egg man’s sa2 theme song

    • @firdanharbima6997
      @firdanharbima6997 25 дней назад +13

      Those lyric maker have been in the lore achelon since day fucking one Holy

    • @minimalbstolerance8113
      @minimalbstolerance8113 24 дня назад +9

      And when he mentions "unlocking the secrets of life."

    • @TheKorenji
      @TheKorenji 20 дней назад +7

      And whenever Gerald says "I am" it's also a reference to "I am the Eggman" and "I am all of me" as both Ivo and Shadow descend from him.

  • @archabolt1446
    @archabolt1446 24 дня назад +109

    Considering they scrubed everything from the record and shot Maria, is this why Dr. Eggman is the way he is? Did gun shut up the whole family to keep military secrets. Eggman might have turned to creating a robotic army to protect himself from GUN. He decided to turn to conquest as to give him the ability to be part of real world as he can't as a someone the government is trying to suppress. With most of his childhood seemingly neglected he fixates on a few wonderful memories like he probably loved the one time he was taken to an amusement park. So much so he often makes amusement park like structures. Eggman Land!😅

    • @Riley-thegreenwolf
      @Riley-thegreenwolf 22 дня назад +9

      OS true story 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @TheKorenji
      @TheKorenji 20 дней назад +4

      Almost checks in with the MugiMikey edgy backstory...

    • @redjirachi1
      @redjirachi1 19 дней назад +6

      He might've started with good intentions, once, but his own egomania changed him for the worst

    • @archabolt1446
      @archabolt1446 19 дней назад

      @@redjirachi1 Sonic is about the least introspective personality. Just the guy who loves adventure and has no cannon orgin story, and is one tracked mind not concerned he doesn't know or could care less about his past or purpose in life. Unless something in Sonic and Shadow says otherwise, still playing. In stark contrast to Shadow.
      Shadow sure has amnesia a lot, is it just from time sealed away/ his time falling to Earth? Is something or someone manipulating his memories. Was Sonic a related project that someone wiped the memory of.

    • @suckmaballligmaass
      @suckmaballligmaass 16 дней назад

      eggman was also based on teddy roosevelt

  • @NessaTheBat1
    @NessaTheBat1 25 дней назад +75

    I love how Maria got the idea of Shadow's shoes. It's really sweet.

    • @jaylenwalker3884
      @jaylenwalker3884 25 дней назад +14

      Yeah it's cool knowing this I feel really bad for Maria she's didn't deserve to die!

    • @Popcultureguy3000
      @Popcultureguy3000 19 дней назад +4

      Makes me wonder if Maria ever got a chance to roller skate or ice skate in the brief time she was well on Earth. Maybe she designed them based on one good memory of having fun or maybe they were designed based on her dreams of doing so, one the day she gets cured?

  • @burgerwolfbrown735
    @burgerwolfbrown735 26 дней назад +120

    Seeing the image of Maria in the wheel chair shows how much work Gerald put into curing her Maria in other photos and in dark beginnings looks completely healthy although I wonder what Maria’s point of view was what was her medication

    • @ShadeVortex
      @ShadeVortex 26 дней назад +41

      I mean, her disease definitely hasn't 'improved'. Being in low gravity just alleviates some of the affects. And as Maria says in the game itself, she has both good days and bad days. We only ever see her on a good day in the game itself, but that doesn't mean she's healthy. She probably still has days where she can't walk- she talked about how some days she can't move, some days she's blind, etc. It's a very inconsistent disease (kind of like Lyme disease- I have a friend who has it. Coincidentally, both heavily affect the nervous/immune system).

    • @burgerwolfbrown735
      @burgerwolfbrown735 26 дней назад +11

      @ShadeVortex I only said she looked healthier especially compared to the photo we see in journal I think it shows just how much the low gravity and Gerald's work did for her
      I do wish your friend all the best

  • @OnePolishMoFo
    @OnePolishMoFo 24 дня назад +61

    I wonder if Maria's sister will ever meet Shadow. She'd be 50ish years old by this point but I like to imagine she looks like an adult Maria. Wouldn't that be a shock for Shadow?

  • @ghostspider2056
    @ghostspider2056 26 дней назад +52

    The Gizoid going on a rampage causing the Artificial Chaos to go wild connects with the Hero Mission "Lost Impact" from Shadow the Hedgehog.

  • @ghostspider2056
    @ghostspider2056 26 дней назад +35

    The biggest difference between Gerald and Eggman is that Gerald has respect for the environment and civilisations while Eggman wants to excavate and take anything valuable if it’ll give him power, no matter who gets hurt or dies.

  • @geoffreyrichards6079
    @geoffreyrichards6079 26 дней назад +90

    7:26 - Judging by the photograph, Dr. Wily and Dr. Tenma were part of Gerald’s crew aboard the Space Colony Ark.

    • @SzaraWilk
      @SzaraWilk 26 дней назад +11

      One scientist looks like dr. Atomus.

    • @vectorphoenix5992
      @vectorphoenix5992 26 дней назад +10

      nice catch. i see it on the far right of the photo

    • @ChaosGodEnerjak
      @ChaosGodEnerjak 24 дня назад +4

      ⁠​⁠@@SzaraWilkDidn’t know that was Professor Utonium’s Polish name till I looked it up just now😅

    • @Exlayer-pk8hy
      @Exlayer-pk8hy 23 дня назад +4

      With a group of scientists like this there's no wonder things went south on the ark.

    • @Faz10do987
      @Faz10do987 20 дней назад +2

      Definitely a reference

  • @JakeThehedgehog-m1x
    @JakeThehedgehog-m1x 26 дней назад +47

    You know im just glad the writing of games is good enough to the point fans start making theories about the stories of the games it's truly good to see that.

  • @Preteristboy
    @Preteristboy 26 дней назад +194

    Fun fact: The Japanese version of the opening letter is signed Tory/Tori.

    • @SonicTheory96
      @SonicTheory96  26 дней назад +41

      Very interesting

    • @BrandonScott-mi5pz
      @BrandonScott-mi5pz 26 дней назад +15

      GREAT 👌 SONIC THEORY GERALD DARK TWISTED JOURNAL.

    • @SaddieMoon
      @SaddieMoon 25 дней назад +20

      😭 I wanted it to be Topaz…

    • @joshuahecht6866
      @joshuahecht6866 25 дней назад +11

      Maybe the name of the agent is Tory Topaz. Maybe Sonic X can be involved in the games because it helped the franchise.

    • @SethMoses-md7uw
      @SethMoses-md7uw 25 дней назад +10

      @@SonicTheory96 Is that Mike Pollock voicing Gerald in his journal, or is that A.I.?

  • @sumireokamura
    @sumireokamura 25 дней назад +34

    So, Gerald almost met Knuckle's grandparents. I guess, he didn't know about Eggman's birth.

    • @PosthumanHeresy
      @PosthumanHeresy 21 день назад +10

      Given that both a lot of pages are missing and the time skip in the journal, it's quite possible that he did.

  • @Plumbers_Helper
    @Plumbers_Helper 26 дней назад +48

    5:29 This seems to be a call back to Sonic 3, specifically the prologue first mentioned in the Japanese Sonic 3 manual, where Sonic also found a ancient ring with engravings on it:
    On an island far from where the floating island hit the sea surface, Tails, a two-tailed fox, read a strong Chaos Emerald reaction on the Jewel Reader, a machine he has developed. "Maybe this has something to do with that big wave I saw a few days ago..." he said. Thinking there may be trouble, he decided to consult with Sonic.
    At the same moment, while relaxing on the beach, Sonic found a small ring washed up on shore. Sonic looked at the ring carefully, and noticed some ancient characters carved on it. The ring reminded Sonic of a legend he once heard about a "mystery island."
    In an ancient time, the "mystery island" was part of the main continent. A people with an extraordinary culture inhabited it. That civilization had built a peaceful and happy society using the energy of something they called "The Mighty Stone". But at a certain point, a faction of dark-minded elders tried to steal the energy of the stone, and by accident made that energy explode. The civilization was wiped out in a second, erased from history. Time passed, and a god descended from the sky to the newly created "mystery island". The sky god restored part of the civilization to the island, and threw the "Mighty Stone" into the open sky...
    A ring washed up on the shore - the legend of the "mystery island" - Sonic, feeling his excitement build, made his preparations for another adventure.

    • @Faz10do987
      @Faz10do987 20 дней назад +1

      Honestly it’s possible that he did see the mural in hidden palace but who knows

  • @127armbitter
    @127armbitter 25 дней назад +27

    It really makes you wonder what is on those missing pages. I love pieces of lore like this. It really gives insight into characters that we don't get to hear much of and really shows us their thoughts and ambitions.

  • @cassandramaccarthy3337
    @cassandramaccarthy3337 26 дней назад +61

    The most haunting lines are "Everything I do from this day forward, I do for her" and "This is ||redacted, but probably Shadow||'s cannon. My gift to him in a battle he never asked for. I'm so sorry." The first because of the haunting truth of it and the latter because of how much Gerald went through, and how much he in turn put Shadow through.

  • @thaneros
    @thaneros 25 дней назад +37

    Dr Eggman's Dad and especially his uncle need to be explored further.

    • @SonicTheory96
      @SonicTheory96  25 дней назад +12

      Agreed! But there is so much fun in the mystery of it all as well 😊

  • @BlackFlash09
    @BlackFlash09 26 дней назад +105

    Gerald Robotnik's voice here sounds like a mix of Eggman and Sir Patrick Stewart.

    • @BrandonScott-mi5pz
      @BrandonScott-mi5pz 26 дней назад +12

      EXCELLENT SONIC THEORY WORK.

    • @genet_the_menace
      @genet_the_menace 26 дней назад +27

      im wondering if its an AI based on Stewart. Im only 6 minutes in but based on some of the deliveries and the lack of a laugh I'm getting strong AI vibes.

    • @playerback7722
      @playerback7722 26 дней назад +5

      Star trek vibes

    • @nightbrand8016
      @nightbrand8016 20 дней назад +1

      Sounds like he had someone read it and then used AI to mimic the sound of Pollock when he was playing Gerald in SxSG

  • @bagarcia09
    @bagarcia09 25 дней назад +51

    Gerald knew WAY TOO much for his own good. He studied time-manipation. He knew and almost perfected Chaos Control. He uncovered the Gizoid and found the Master Emerald in Angel Island. He studied the Chaos Emeralds and developed the Artificial Chaos. He met the Black Arms. He found out about Ifrit from Rivals 2.
    What else did he know that we dont know? The Ancients? The End? The origin of the Hedgehogs?
    Gerald needs to be an important plot device for the next Sonic game.

    • @gothicMCRgirl
      @gothicMCRgirl 24 дня назад +13

      It’s always a possibility, especially since the journal was missing a lot of entries. Who knows what else he managed to discover.

    • @PosthumanHeresy
      @PosthumanHeresy 21 день назад +12

      Given that one madness entry, he absolutely knew about the Ancients.

    • @pablotomasllodra4423
      @pablotomasllodra4423 20 дней назад +3

      @@PosthumanHeresy Or maybe, he discovered Chaos.

  • @goombaluigi8681
    @goombaluigi8681 26 дней назад +87

    I hope Shadow Finds Maria's sister if he gets a new stand alone game

    • @SonicTheory96
      @SonicTheory96  26 дней назад +29

      I'm hoping she and Shadow meet as well

    • @wolfrosefrost5475
      @wolfrosefrost5475 26 дней назад +16

      I’m curious if Sage will have a hand in Shadow and Maria’s sister possibly meeting, perhaps being curious about who her father’s relatives are and wanting to learn about them.

    • @justiceiria869
      @justiceiria869 26 дней назад +12

      ​@@wolfrosefrost5475this takes place during sonic generations, so before sage was created.

    • @vectorphoenix5992
      @vectorphoenix5992 26 дней назад +4

      probably runs a city where sonic riders takes place given the technology there.

    • @anthonyfloyd2327
      @anthonyfloyd2327 25 дней назад +1

      ​@@justiceiria869 but she has access to the egg net, either she is alive but still stuck in the computer system or alive with a physical form so if she is alive by any means she can check far back into the past to find files and examine the robotnick blood lines... Maybe even visualize simulations on if Maria is alive rather than dead to see how it might react if Maria had not died.

  • @DraftyCoast
    @DraftyCoast 25 дней назад +21

    Hearing this with Gerald's voice give this journal more depth

  • @liamruiz3196
    @liamruiz3196 26 дней назад +48

    The Topaz theory actually makes a lot of sense. Also, glad to see more Sonic X recognition!

    • @TheShuuman
      @TheShuuman 14 дней назад +1

      Would love to see Topaz show up in the games and isn't because I want to see how Rouge reacts to that version of Topaz

  • @mathieutrudelle763
    @mathieutrudelle763 26 дней назад +49

    For the jungle I'm pretty sure it I the Mystic ruins, since most of knuckles ancestors ruins are located there

    • @Player_circle
      @Player_circle 26 дней назад +2

      Yes I think too

    • @SonicTheory96
      @SonicTheory96  26 дней назад +9

      This could be the case, it's redacted so right now we have no hard evidence

    • @Faz10do987
      @Faz10do987 20 дней назад

      @@SonicTheory96I mean, the proto chaos is probably why, and I think they are leaving the mural as a theory, but it isn’t debunked

  • @pinstripecool34
    @pinstripecool34 25 дней назад +17

    SO MUCH LORE! Im so happy that Sonic Team is finally giving us some backstory on the Robotnik family tree.

  • @mahwiiiife408
    @mahwiiiife408 21 день назад +10

    Imagine how betrayed Emerl felt being sold out to save Gerald's grand daughter. Though he may just be a machine, he still formed a bond and had ultimate trust in Gerald. Truly Gerald's life was full of tragedy.

  • @Bucket_Buffoon
    @Bucket_Buffoon 24 дня назад +23

    Bro your musical choice is ON POINT this is the easiest listening for this lore I've seen online. TAKE MY LIKE.

    • @PosthumanHeresy
      @PosthumanHeresy 20 дней назад +4

      That damn ODST music

    • @Bucket_Buffoon
      @Bucket_Buffoon 20 дней назад +2

      @@PosthumanHeresy These past few years have taught me the wonderful art of seperating the art from the artist lol

    • @Popcultureguy3000
      @Popcultureguy3000 19 дней назад +2

      @@Bucket_BuffoonIt’s a shame that even when you do that, unless the artist is dead like Wagner, that Nazi Opera composer/writer, you’ll have to rent these artists/actors works so as not to support them financially.
      I know I’m going to be using libraries to rent Neil Gaiman books I don’t already own from now on, and I’m going to avoid the overtly romantic (in a hetero way) books/comics like Stardust, because of how uncomfortable it will make me given what’s come out about him. (Also, I’m fairly certain that the Sandman Universe comics not written by Gaiman aren’t giving him any royalties, so I’m not worried about supporting him through the current John Constantine comic series featuring Dream and the magical Sandman sand grains.)

    • @SerbianLifter997
      @SerbianLifter997 14 дней назад

      ​@@PosthumanHeresy NOOO HE HECKIN SUPPORTS THE ACTUAL FANS AND NOT THE DEI TWITTER CROWD NOOOO!
      you ingrate tourist.

    • @SerbianLifter997
      @SerbianLifter997 14 дней назад

      ​@@Popcultureguy3000
      comparing martin O'Donnell to DUH NAZHEES really shows you're mentally stable.

  • @lunakingsley.7247
    @lunakingsley.7247 26 дней назад +45

    I hope the rival stuff is brought up. I think that made Gerald even more insane. I wish you had brought it up.

    • @sleepylmguy9968
      @sleepylmguy9968 26 дней назад +8

      Need some context here. Rival stuff? What stuff exactly?

    • @omegashinobi
      @omegashinobi 26 дней назад +24

      Sonic Rivals was a game for the PSP. In it we learned Gerald made contact with the Ifrit, the main antagonist and a counterpart to Iblis.

  • @flumperflip2614
    @flumperflip2614 26 дней назад +38

    5:56 The censor bleeps on redacted text really change the context for the worse.

    • @SonicTheory96
      @SonicTheory96  26 дней назад +21

      Some of the bleeps were cracking me up while I was editing lol

    • @TheHeroExodus
      @TheHeroExodus 24 дня назад +1

      Damnit u beat me to it lol

    • @Dairunt1
      @Dairunt1 20 дней назад

      M A S S I V E
      Maybe replace the beeps with radio interference next time lol

  • @Dreq458
    @Dreq458 24 дня назад +8

    21:40 hedgehogs, chao, echidnas, the black arms, sun gazer lizards, ... cats if you count the sol emeralds

    • @Faz10do987
      @Faz10do987 20 дней назад

      Ancients & scientists

  • @minimalbstolerance8113
    @minimalbstolerance8113 24 дня назад +7

    I liked the detail of Maria giving Shadow his air shoes. I can't help but think it might have been a reference to the original US/Europe Sonic origin story where Sonic was given his sneakers by Eggman before he turned evil.

  • @rockinggamerdude
    @rockinggamerdude 26 дней назад +24

    3:05 the left is Eggman’s father. I can recognize that goofy mustache anywhere

    • @SonicTheory96
      @SonicTheory96  26 дней назад +9

      Both sons have a similar mustache, but the one on the right has a nose that resembles Eggmans

    • @corruptedplayer
      @corruptedplayer 25 дней назад +8

      i think its impossible to tell, since they all take from geralds side of the family

    • @Reyna_Amaturi
      @Reyna_Amaturi 25 дней назад +10

      It is safe to assume that any male born into the Robotnik family will have those genes and those born female are classic-looking anime-beautiful

    • @bagarcia09
      @bagarcia09 25 дней назад +2

      The left looks more like Eggman and the one from the right has Maria's blonde color.

    • @rockinggamerdude
      @rockinggamerdude 23 дня назад

      Will one of the mustaches look pointier similar to Eggman?

  • @The_Legendary_Nic
    @The_Legendary_Nic 24 дня назад +9

    Really great video and there’s actually one more secret to Gerald’s journal, on the back cover!
    If you scan the barcode, it will spit out the words ‘they don’t know’ in all lowercase.
    I have no idea what it means but I figured adding it here might allow you to maybe share what you think it means.

    • @SonicTheory96
      @SonicTheory96  24 дня назад

      Wow thats a great catch. Ill have to look into it!

    • @shadeblackwolf1508
      @shadeblackwolf1508 24 дня назад +2

      There is also that binary sequence towards the end. don't know what it says, but it's clear binary and from the format i'd say either ascii, or utf8

    • @cyclops8238
      @cyclops8238 21 день назад

      ​@@shadeblackwolf1508perhaps it's another secret message related to the destruction of Earth.

  • @astonmartin1800
    @astonmartin1800 26 дней назад +18

    If that's so with the Biolizard and the salamander from Sonic IDW with Chaos energy, I have another theory for you! What if the Ancients from Starfall Islands have been experimenting on regular animals with chaos energy, thus giving birth to the anthropomorphic animals we see today in the franchise!

    • @SonicTheory96
      @SonicTheory96  26 дней назад +4

      I do like that theory

    • @alemage
      @alemage 25 дней назад +3

      If this was true, I would forever picture shadow pointing at sonic saying "You're no more real than me.." while sonic stares with panic and confusion.

    • @Cretaceous158
      @Cretaceous158 23 дня назад +3

      Reminds me of a theory that the Black Arms are ancients corrupted by the End. That means that possibly Sonic’s ancestor could have been part ancient, possibly having DNA from Supreme’s pilot, who has been compared to Sonic.

  • @Diamonddeath
    @Diamonddeath 21 день назад +10

    Is it possible the mysterious pink-haired girl is Maria's younger sister or even niece? The clothing is somewhat Eggman-esque and archaeologist-esque. Also, maybe she's the one who wrote the letter to Abe? If so, would her name start with a T? Maybe as a nod, her name might be Topaz or Tiara?

  • @JulianCaesaro
    @JulianCaesaro 20 дней назад +4

    Dang, tying it all into how Gerald was first introduced with his final words, really makes the canon feel canon!
    But to be aware that he was going insane, what a crazy thing to go through or to experience.
    Having intrusive thoughts, hyper-focusing on saving his granddaughter, coming into contact with an alien commander who has a mental link with all of the species of the alien race, getting pressured into making weapons… Then to have it all go wrong and stripped away. 😪
    The pressure of being a genius was too much for him.
    And so, everything has to end up being tragic because that is how the character was made.
    All things considered, it’s no wonder that Shadow wanted to try to change the past, and cried afterwards

  • @greensoda123
    @greensoda123 26 дней назад +19

    44:02 I think the Mystic Ruins would make more sense as its near human civilization and has old echidna buildings from there.

  • @SH4D0WdaN0V4
    @SH4D0WdaN0V4 25 дней назад +5

    Awesome video, it is truly interesting to see glimpses of the life of Gerald and Maria knowing that they both wanted good for the world, but the beacon of hope was lost and so too was the good in Gerald. Buried beneath a sea of anguish and unimaginable stress (I also couldn't help but notice asphalt and ablution, ODST is goated).

  • @movespammerguyteam7colors
    @movespammerguyteam7colors 25 дней назад +6

    Dam, Gerald discovered a lot of stuff in the past. A master of both archeology and robotic engineering is a weird combination of scientific studies.

  • @M7Sound
    @M7Sound 25 дней назад +13

    I genuinely wanted to see Maria's reaction in Generations if you had the option to hand her the completed journal.

  • @Kookie_13_
    @Kookie_13_ 22 дня назад +7

    The only inconsistency in this entire thing is wether Maria remembers earth or wether she was brought up to space as a small child so she doesn’t remember earth

    • @cyclops8238
      @cyclops8238 21 день назад

      She had also been on the ark for a few years at the time of her death. She was probably too young to remember when she was on Earth and thus can't recall whether she was born on Earth or not.

    • @Kookie_13_
      @Kookie_13_ 21 день назад +1

      @ yes but she clearly states she’s been to spagonia and also clearly states shadow had been created for a long time at this point because the researchers were getting used to him so she remembers spagonia even then so it is a retcon

  • @TheGrumpiestPanda
    @TheGrumpiestPanda 14 дней назад +1

    I'm so happy with the direction Sonic has been going with stories and especially the lore in recent games.
    These are the things I had been hoping to get 10 years ago, but sadly, we all know that the Meta Era disregarded story every chance it got.
    Getting to see them dive headfirst back into Shadow's origins with not only Gerald and Maria, but the Black Arms as well.
    Learning of all the thing Gerald developed on the ARK, and getting to skim over his journal, was just fantastic.
    Not to mention, the extended Robotnik family as well.

  • @TheZetoBlade
    @TheZetoBlade 26 дней назад +23

    In one of the journal entries, Gerald states that "the application of his research to Maria was imminent," or something along those lines. Did he ever get a chance to do that or did the Gun raid happen before he had a chance? Maybe he did try but it didn't work. It could be nothing but that part did stand out to me. Also, I'm curious about Maria's sister, is she still out there somewhere? How much of the Robotnik family is still around.

    • @SonicTheory96
      @SonicTheory96  26 дней назад +9

      It seems like he got close, but never got the chance to try applying any of his research to her cure. Things started spiraling out of control before he could.

    • @ShaleLee
      @ShaleLee 26 дней назад +8

      If the Dark Beginning's memories can be trusted to a degree (obviously not completely since they were manipulated), I imagine they tried and failed. There was a scene where Shadow was frustrated at himself for not being a sufficient cure for her.

    • @TheZetoBlade
      @TheZetoBlade 26 дней назад +2

      @@ShaleLee That's a good point, and it's also true that those memories were manipulated to a point. Hmm...Shadows' true history continues to be a mystery it seems.

    • @save_zawarudo
      @save_zawarudo 4 часа назад +1

      i think in shadow gens theres a scene where he tried but didnt work,maybe it was the first try so maybe he would do better the next attemps,sadly that never happened...

  • @Freedmoon44
    @Freedmoon44 25 дней назад +12

    Tbf Gerald is the kind of guy that if given the ressources probably wouldve found a way to resurect Maria somehow if worse were to happen, Shadow IS the answer to all illnesses which in a weird way also includes mortality due to him being made to be immortal.
    Ofc he gonna have mysteries left in him.
    Love that Shadow's new game bring attention back to his lore though, his story has always been one of the highest point in Sonic's history

  • @morganlogan9955
    @morganlogan9955 26 дней назад +7

    I remember seeing a version that mentioned the rivals bad guy, perhaps the physical edition? It had the largest and most insane text, but I am unable to read madman cursive.

  • @rual9822
    @rual9822 19 дней назад +3

    also holy shit you mentioning how some creatures getting contact with chaos emeralds creates different results and using the salamander example, immediately makes me think of trip from sonic superstars, as she transforms into a dragon when using the chaos emeralds, ngl this makes me think that the myth of dragons in the sonic world was something real in the past, and in these occurences of them existing it probably was some reptilian creature who was mutated by the chaos emeralds as well

  • @kelliefay7625
    @kelliefay7625 26 дней назад +9

    Thanks for that the journal was hard for me to read. In my story I made his purgatory assignment that he had to watch, but was not permitted to act. He could notify others to act, but for the most part could not himself. I thought that appropriate since I felt he acted too much on impulse, in my story Shadow goes on a spirit quest to find him, and ask all the questions he didn’t get to, or dared to in White Space.

  • @tahamoukhliss8420
    @tahamoukhliss8420 25 дней назад +10

    So basically, Topaz may actually be Maria's grandniece.

  • @HyahMaster
    @HyahMaster 10 дней назад +1

    I think it would be cool if Topaz was made canon. The fact we got Sonic X reference art could show they might push it.

  • @sioncrush5336
    @sioncrush5336 26 дней назад +21

    The Little nightmares music was a fine choice

  • @daydreamerartist1342
    @daydreamerartist1342 21 день назад +3

    The constant beeping in the journal entry is just funny😂

  • @YPhilou
    @YPhilou 26 дней назад +9

    who ever was the Old G.U.N comander he was stressing out Gerald alot

    • @PosthumanHeresy
      @PosthumanHeresy 20 дней назад +5

      The President too. Lmao maybe the Sonic universe isn't modern day, but rather like, the 2070s.

  • @anastasiatanaseraphina810
    @anastasiatanaseraphina810 9 дней назад +1

    This is all fascinating! Heart wrenching ly sad but it answers a lot of questions. Also, who is Maria’s sister? I never knew until now that Maria has a sister. Also, shadows power wings and shoes origins… heartwarming.

  • @jaredtherock5692
    @jaredtherock5692 24 дня назад +5

    17:20 ahh, Deference For Darkness. Somehow so fitting for Sonic lore

    • @PosthumanHeresy
      @PosthumanHeresy 20 дней назад +1

      It's been fifteen years and it still gives me goosebumps.

  • @yoshivsjoshi
    @yoshivsjoshi 25 дней назад +5

    Amazing video, Shadow is my favourite video game character, I know it might be controversial but I hope Shadow can find a way to save Her and Gerald somehow

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 19 дней назад +2

    Gerald strikes me as the good guy version of Eggman. He's a prideful genius and has dealt with forces beyond his control, but he wants to make the world better. Given what his diary implies about his childhood, maybe the reason they went on different paths is that Gerald had a good support group while Ivo was neglected growing up. That could be why he made Sage as a daughter and not another creation

  • @roberthewes3148
    @roberthewes3148 13 дней назад +1

    8:38 Kid Eggman: You should model it after your face!
    Gerald: Hmm…

  • @SupremeSR
    @SupremeSR 12 дней назад +2

    They should do a whole drama series on Gerald Robotnik… I’d watch that Dark sci-fi fantasy which dish lore.

  • @LibertarianTerriermon
    @LibertarianTerriermon 26 дней назад +19

    A cautionary tale if governments try to play God

  • @sonicguyver7445
    @sonicguyver7445 25 дней назад +3

    Interesting. I never knew Gerald actually visited Angel Island. Between the photos of the shrine ruins and his study of the emerald, he must have determined the layout somehow channeled and maximized the Chaos Emeralds power. That's why there is a copy of the shrine in the ARKs core.
    But I was also always fascinated by the Gizoid. Before the Shadow game I had thought the Ultimate Lifeforms was based on the Gizoid. Like a way of recreating its chaos control in a living creature.

  • @-shadow-835
    @-shadow-835 9 дней назад +1

    marias parents must have been devastated after her death. they never got the chance to see her again

  • @sweetbusiness7229
    @sweetbusiness7229 24 дня назад +4

    Can’t wait to see Sonic 3’s portrayal of Gerald, it’ll be interesting where they go with him being alive

  • @michaelrhett4958
    @michaelrhett4958 20 дней назад +3

    Reading this journal in person was so amazing!

  • @TimeSpace123
    @TimeSpace123 24 дня назад +3

    It would be interesting if T was Topaz. What would also be interesting is Topaz was Maria’s baby sister or more realistically the daughter of that sister.

  • @teriosthehedgehogsa2artist849
    @teriosthehedgehogsa2artist849 14 дней назад +2

    love this but will say that made my day I can't lol when u use the bleep sound it makes it sound like Gerald' wrote some bad things that were curse words XD

  • @Total_Malarkey
    @Total_Malarkey 20 дней назад +3

    After reading through this I think that Gerald may be one of my favorite characters.
    I really hope that in the future we see more of Eggman’s family.

  • @TheAbyssLord
    @TheAbyssLord 25 дней назад +6

    This was such of lore drop, and I just feel bad for shadow. I wonder what shadow would be if Maria and gerald stayed alive.

    • @Burning-Twilight
      @Burning-Twilight 25 дней назад +2

      I imagine he could have been either a protector for the planet in the same capacity Sonic is (just a more serious version though) or he may have become a secret weapon for G.U.N to deploy in only the most desperate or critical situations. Alas we will never know for sure.

    • @TheAbyssLord
      @TheAbyssLord 25 дней назад +2

      @@Burning-Twilight Another thing i want to know, is the Robotnik family still alive during the mainline games of sonic. And if they are, What do they think of eggman with his whole trying to take over the world when he did started a war and all the bullshit he cause. Are they shame in public because of eggmans trying to take over the world?

    • @Burning-Twilight
      @Burning-Twilight 25 дней назад +1

      @@TheAbyssLord it's difficult to say what could it be fell the rest of family. It could be like a similar case for anyone who was family with any controversial political figures or the like, they either went on with their normal day-to-day activities with probably facing some form of discrimination because of that one family member or could be possible they chose to live a secluded life and try to hide any connections with eggman.

  • @vectorphoenix5992
    @vectorphoenix5992 26 дней назад +4

    For some reason the Biolizard's growth, mutations and its pain through them by chaos drives as a source along with its regenerative properties sounds exactly like Shin Godzilla.

  • @thesupersonicartist1095
    @thesupersonicartist1095 26 дней назад +28

    Who was voicing Gerald here?

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay3358 25 дней назад +5

    Hiding what little sanity he had after what happened. I really feel bad for what happened to him. He just wanted to use his intelligence to better mankind and save his sickly granddaughter, and his murder at the hands of GUN broke him.

  • @terribadda2912
    @terribadda2912 24 дня назад +4

    The censor bleeps make it more comical than it really is

  • @SpicyPunkRockerOfficial
    @SpicyPunkRockerOfficial 20 дней назад +1

    The video I’ve been waiting for. I didn’t realize how tragic of what the Biolizard actually is

  • @bluefox8011
    @bluefox8011 25 дней назад +5

    i really want to believe the -T signature at the end of the first file is Topaz from Sonic X. I maybe misremembering, but in Sonic X, I don't think the show ever touched on who exactly Topaz was other than Rouge the bats G.U.N companion for special ops missions

    • @HYPERxSONICxFANx2012
      @HYPERxSONICxFANx2012 24 дня назад +4

      i recently rewatched it in japanese. we got nothing about topaz's past

    • @bluefox8011
      @bluefox8011 20 дней назад +1

      @@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012 yes, so she could be her sister if Sega decides to make her Maria's younger sister

  • @trongtran8951
    @trongtran8951 26 дней назад +8

    When u realized if Maria alive, she would be as same age as Eggman.

    • @megaplays2748
      @megaplays2748 26 дней назад +13

      She'd probably be older, actually. Considering that the only mentions of Gerald's grandkids were Maria and her younger sister, it was likely that Eggman was born after them both.

    • @vectorphoenix5992
      @vectorphoenix5992 26 дней назад +2

      according to sonic channel and a post on twitter, Eggman is under 50, thus making maria older than him

    • @LimitPro1
      @LimitPro1 26 дней назад +2

      ​@@vectorphoenix5992that would make her his older cousin

    • @Cretaceous158
      @Cretaceous158 23 дня назад

      @@vectorphoenix5992according to some CD concept art, Eggman was born in 1931.

  • @allangarddegriss6798
    @allangarddegriss6798 26 дней назад +3

    I wonder how all of this will be accommodated into the Cinematic Universe. For example an ancient tribe of echidnas came to earth via portal rings. Angel Island could be what Mu was based on.

    • @allangarddegriss6798
      @allangarddegriss6798 26 дней назад

      They could end the movie with Knuckles finding out about the ruins.
      Next film could be the gang looking for said ruins and finding CHAOS.
      We can even make it so that the " Fire Demon" who killed Knuckles clan, was a weapon or something created to stop CHAOS

  • @thewilliamsanimationprojec822
    @thewilliamsanimationprojec822 22 дня назад +2

    I think Gerald found the ring in the “Mystic Ruins” jungle, not Angel island, as the Mystic Ruins are much closer to Angel Island, that and the redacted text much more seems to be the length of the words “Mystic Ruins” rather than “South Island”

  • @broccieboi
    @broccieboi 25 дней назад +4

    At the time of the ark there were 4 echidnas on the island at least

  • @nori28
    @nori28 21 день назад +2

    I like the ODST music. Great video!

  • @patrikzotaj4528
    @patrikzotaj4528 17 дней назад +2

    gerald was once a good scientist good genius and good grandfather to eggman and maria.

  • @KingofBeasts444
    @KingofBeasts444 23 дня назад +4

    Maria has a sister? Are they going to make Hope canon? ...is Snively going to become canon?

  • @aurealproportions1917
    @aurealproportions1917 25 дней назад +5

    I want a Sonic Game where they explain how the fuck they could manage to build a planteoid on the planet Earth and then releasing it without anyone noticing it.
    I'm not complaining, I'm genuinely curious XD.

    • @HYPERxSONICxFANx2012
      @HYPERxSONICxFANx2012 24 дня назад

      maybe the planetoid was built in space

    • @PosthumanHeresy
      @PosthumanHeresy 20 дней назад +1

      The Ark? That was built in space. They took a space rock and hollowed it out.

    • @sweetoil2952
      @sweetoil2952 5 дней назад +1

      @@PosthumanHeresyWoah, really?? I never knew that! :0
      That explains the exterior look of the other side!

  • @MolotovKingX
    @MolotovKingX 25 дней назад +3

    What if the President somehow cause Maria to get sick in a way to get Gerald to research immortality? It would make sense since he would anything for his Granddaughter.

  • @TheNinlendo
    @TheNinlendo 20 дней назад +1

    I believe the jungle mentioned in the journal is mystic ruins jungle from sonic adventure 1

  • @nernerman
    @nernerman 25 дней назад +9

    Shadow's backstory is like a mix of Mewtwo's and Solid Snake's. If Gerald would have said "It all started with a bunch of old fools" it would have been awesome

    • @PosthumanHeresy
      @PosthumanHeresy 21 день назад +2

      Meanwhile his parentage is basically "What if Ford Pines and Bill Cipher did mpreg".

    • @nernerman
      @nernerman 20 дней назад +2

      @@PosthumanHeresy I hate that what you said makes sense.

  • @Ragman312
    @Ragman312 16 дней назад

    Love the Halo Wars music in the background, brings back memories

  • @Volt_Fortnite
    @Volt_Fortnite 25 дней назад +3

    I wonder how all of this will tie in with the sonic 3 movie, seeing as how eggman and gerald will meet. though now that I remember, im pretty sure that in the sonic 1 movie eggman said he was an orphan.

    • @sweetoil2952
      @sweetoil2952 5 дней назад

      The movies are sort of its own universe so I’m not sure there will be a lot of “tieing in”

  • @hotel_arcadia
    @hotel_arcadia 24 дня назад +5

    No one is talking about Gerald said "CLOUT" in 1951?

    • @RayCloud-n5l
      @RayCloud-n5l 21 день назад +3

      I think Sonic's world is supposed to be kinda futuristic compared to our own, which would also explain the highly advanced giant space station even for 2024.

    • @hotel_arcadia
      @hotel_arcadia 21 день назад

      @@RayCloud-n5l It doesn't really add up considering the photos in the journal were in black and white

    • @RayCloud-n5l
      @RayCloud-n5l 21 день назад

      @@hotel_arcadia Well in all honesty it could be a similar version of earth but way more advanced, again keep in mind despite the black and white photos they still had technology that far surpasses our own, space travel wasn't a thing until 1957

    • @PosthumanHeresy
      @PosthumanHeresy 20 дней назад +6

      It actually first became a term for political influence in the 1860s.

  • @friendlyhedgehog3726
    @friendlyhedgehog3726 5 дней назад +1

    Lol... The entry number when Gerald introduces Black Doom is number 616. I catch that reference.

  • @SpeedBird6780
    @SpeedBird6780 15 дней назад +1

    When I read the introductory e-mail of the diary, a speculation ran through my head. What if Abe's predecessor was the one who killed Maria? Abe is around the age of 60 and likely has a longer tenure as commander, furthermore, I find it unlikely that a tenure of commander holds for longer than a decade or two, so it's unlikely that Abe's predecessor was commander during the shutdown. Abe is looking for answers especially after Shadow 05 and Rouge likely submitted the diary to "T" after SA2, so it's not in his interests to destroy evidence. Also, in normal circumstances a GUN commander wouldn't have destroying top secret info high on his priorities, so why does his predecessor? It is these reasons that lead me to speculate that Abe's predecessor might be the one who killed Maria.

  • @SonicForges
    @SonicForges 26 дней назад +5

    I watched a video about the journal entries, and they put white "subtitles" so you can read it better. There, where the redacted areas are, they have white squares. Each square is possibly a letter, but where he's obviously talking about Maria there are only 3 boxes. What are your thoughts on that?

    • @SonicTheory96
      @SonicTheory96  26 дней назад +7

      I read the entries by putting up the "subtitles" as well. I think the white squares don't accurately reflect the amount of characters. Initially I thought they might but too many things don't add up when you look into it

    • @MukashiBanashi4
      @MukashiBanashi4 20 дней назад

      ​@@SonicTheory96 they match perfectly if you treat the boxes as Japanese characters! マリア, MA RI A

  • @myleswelnetz6700
    @myleswelnetz6700 19 дней назад +1

    Whatever those secrets are, they are being kept under lock and key these days by some of Dr. Eggman’s strongest Badniks, including Metal Sonic, so there is no way to find out without a fight.

  • @J14theghost
    @J14theghost 21 день назад +1

    One theory that i have is that one of the missing pages could specify Emerl's origin, if Emerl could use the power of chaos Emeralds and the ancients were the civilization that was more advanced than anything at the time, Emerl could had been made to protect the ancients from the end, if the part of him "Unlocking moves that he originally had" the theory would be more standing, one of Ultimate Emerl's move, his heavy attack is a similar attack that Chaos can use, a water attack, and the ancients were made of water or liquid

  • @QueenA.G.
    @QueenA.G. 21 день назад +2

    I always had a theory that since SA 2 came out in 2001 and if we subtract 50 years I headcanoned the ark raid happened in the year 1951 and if we subtract 12 years from 1951 that means Maria was born in 1939 since she was 12 when she was shot based on info I found about her

  • @ghostspider2056
    @ghostspider2056 26 дней назад +2

    Maria’s sister would be an old lady by now, if she had any kids or grandkids, I hope it becomes the games equivalent to Hope Kintobor from Archie comics and have a close relationship with Shadow.

  • @CrochetWhiteLion
    @CrochetWhiteLion 20 дней назад +2

    Salamanders are not lizards they are amphibians, minor nitpick. this video is well done and incredibly fascinating.

    • @SonicTheory96
      @SonicTheory96  20 дней назад +2

      I appreciate it! I'd rather be corrected than carry on being wrong lol. Glad you enjoyed the video ☺

    • @CrochetWhiteLion
      @CrochetWhiteLion 19 дней назад

      @@SonicTheory96 It's fine, I get why you thought it was a lizard. It's called the "Biolizard" in game, salamanders and lizards are often grouped together by popular opinion, and the only known real world creatures that can reach the Biolizard's size are sauropod dinosaurs(often known to have scales like reptiles), some examples I can name are Diplodocus, Argentinosaurus, Sauroposeidon, and Ampelosaurus.

  • @Tigera89
    @Tigera89 День назад

    Ok, This is an awesome story and all, but my question remains the same. Maybe I miss it here or other videos, but can some one explain Why Shadow is a Hedgehog? I mean we got the answer of why the Bio lizard is a lizard, so what of Shadow? Why a Hedgehog? How did the ultimate life form come to be a Hedgehog? What is the connection? Did I miss something? I hope I don't come off rude, I just really want to know if there's a answer to this question. You made such an awesome video that it inspired me to ask this question. Thank you for making this and keep up the awesome work.

  • @ForteGX100
    @ForteGX100 25 дней назад +2

    8:00 Is that Dr. Wily in silhouette on the far right?