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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- On this episode, Chewy and Eugene discuss the impact the Craig Jones Invitational (CJI) will have on the state of grappling and the upcoming ADCC world championships.
We discuss our thoughts on Craig’s motives and strategy when promoting the CJI, the importance of using high quality production to attract spectators, the increased attention that Craig Jones and the CJI has brought to grappling, why the timing of the CJI is bad for the athletes, the pros and cons of splitting the elite grapplers between the two tournaments, the CJI ruleset, the Gabi Garcia vs Craig Jones superfight, and the results of Chewy’s Instagram poll of whether people would attend the CJI, ADCC, or neither.
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Chewy sounds a bit bitter that he bought tickets for the Adcc and CJI is the event to go
I understand the hesitancy by Chewie, however, Craig addressed most of Chewie’s disagreements in his various interviews. I feel like overall he just doesn’t trust Craig, which is fine.
The only problem I have is him not being very empathetic towards athlete’s not getting paid except in exposure. It’s a more American point of view that exposure will cover them. I’m down here training in Brazil now, and they need that $, and they often aren’t able to capitalize on the exposure as much. Craig has specifically pointed this out, and in his videos of his other travels and interviews you can tell despite his crass humor he’s actually pretty worldly and seems like he cares.
Winning ADCC honestly doesnt even guarantee great exposure. Doing self promotion is far more effective because ADCC and flo wont put in much effort for most athletes outside of their favourites.
Ask some random people at BJJ gyms if they know who won the absolute division at 2022 ADCC off the top of their head...
Winning arguably the hardest/most prestigious division in the sport doesnt even massively change your instructional or seminar sales.
Chewie's arguments are so bad and *naiive* (to interpret this charitably)
How them ADCC boots tasting?
Pretty disappointing to hear this amount of bootlicking from you Chewie.
Really not hard to understand the reasons which illustrate the athletes are being underpaid by power structures in the sport (flo, adcc, ibjjf).
Super embarrassing podcast to listen to.
Be quiet Craig
Damn I only opened this because I thought Craig was on. Listened to a few minutes of chewies shit takes and then bailed
yeah. just not too bright.
Chewie missing the whole point, winning adcc is a good prestige but it doesn’t make you more money if you win it. There’s plenty of adcc winners who are broke and ppl still don’t even know
A lot of ADCC apologizing going on here. For sure disappointed in this view from the Chewster.
This was a hard watch
Defending ufc fighter pay too is crazy it’s obvious you’ve never looked up the revenue split, also ADCC hadn’t increased its pay every yet it’s expanding the athletes are the reason either promotion is successful
Craig definitely did talk about pricing and how if he would have seen any sort of gesture' "even just going from 10K to 20K" he would have been content with a change I don't expect Chewy to know everything about everything, but Craig said that in multiple interviews😬
So damn painful, bro obviously didn't watch any of those interviews properly or at all.. or just doesn't give a shit about fighter pay..
Spectators win! ADCC is great, CJI will be great. The timing is right, ppl are participating and there’s a fan base. It’s not comparable to UFC, basketball or baseball. Turns out August will be a good month for grappling fans.
Not when people spend a lot of money to come to Vegas and watch an event only for their favorite athletes to pull out...
@@TheLev11they can still watch them for free via RUclips, CJI is streaming for free there
Come on, justifying not paying the athletes anything because you are paying marketing people... Yes you need marketing people and they need to be paid, but you also need athletes and they also need to be paid. The venue is an easy way to see that ADCC does infact have lots of money because the difference between T Moblie and T&M is 1.5m. That could have been used towards paying the athletes. There is a balance to be struck here; the fact ADCC has already increased women's pay off the back of it and Mo has confessed they could have afforded to increase the prize money, laying the road to do so is massive. The CJI has already succeeded in improving athlete pay. Now is that Craig's only motive; that is a different question people can chew on.
Are you gonna try and get an invite chewie?
These are such bad takes. Citing UFC as a model to follow in a conversation about fighter pay just blows my mind.
Lol hearing this guy whinge and moan about athletes being ungrateful was truly painful.. i lasted 10 minutes
This is a lame argument. Is this CNN?
Money talks. That's all people need to understand :-)
Nothing wrong with liking both
From a general economic standpoint competition is good for consumers, good for employees and good for product development. The possible benefits from this competition adcc now has to deal with appear obvious, idk what is going on with chewie
I’m not quite sure that Chewy knows what the word “objectively” means
Craig literally said on chris williamsons podcast "modern wisdom " if they had jumped it to 20k he wouldn't be doing this.now I don't expect you to watch every Craig interview and Maybe he is being dishonest. I watched that interview because I already watch that podcast regularly. I watched the ariel and rogan one as well . He us a troll but he does seem more genuine than mo . I think not doing it at t-mobile arena and paying the fighters more would have been the better move . But mo felt in a stronger bargaining position. We can raise the esteem of the event and not have to pay the fighters more. Knowing the esteem of the event Craig had to make the money worth it .
chew shilling hard but fair enough
If I had a dollar for every time company said it's unprofitable when talking about workers pay...i'd be rich enough to be screwing over my own workers. Chewies to caught up in that American boss mindset that "It's actually me that's making the money doing the hard work, not my workers, they should just be happy with what I give them, they should be happy they even have jobs!"
We don't watch grappling to see fucking Mo, we watch for the talented grapplers and they deserve to be paid. As for the comparison to the UFC...the UFC is a leech of a company, that doesnt even follow the model of whos the best fighter, just whos more popular to sell.
Its cji not cgi chewie
I have heard so many people make that mistake.
Thank you. Idk why people keep saying this
If you are a cji champ you get 1 million dollars. How many adcc champions have made a million dollars in their entire careers?
Hilarious to hear the discussion about Flo and RUclips debate with marketing and how that’s the only way to pay athletes more. And yet the whole point of the podcast is discussing an event that has managed to do just that without the other stuff 😂
You are arguing about the format of the event based on spectacle and spectators when the numbers are not yet in on the CJI event's success. Craig Jones said himself that it is possible he is wrong and that it is not possible to make a profit at the event.
It is not a mystery how much money bjj athletes are getting paid. We all know the top prize at adcc is 10k.
You should not be taking Mo's side on this, it is clearly an insult to the competitors who are risking their lives and limbs in the ring and if they lose they get paid less than the bongo players or the people who hire the Tmobile center or the people who set up the fireworks or the people who sell hotdogs. ADCC could pay them SOMETHING, this was the premiere jiu jitsu event and these athletes and many others prepare all year to compete in it, the vast majority making no money at all.
"objectively speaking" it's not worse for the fighters. 17:20 They are forced to choose between a big pay day and prestige. Objectively speaking it's a windfall for all the professional fighters at the right weight to compete in CJI. It's definitely good for the fighters, and it will be very good for all the fighters doing superfights or who win, because 1 million dollars should be life changing money for them. Whoever is funding this has deep pockets and can almost certainly continue next year.
It's also good for the fighters because this forces adcc to pay better. They don't have to go off the deep end but mark my words, the next adcc will have different compensation for the fighters. It's good for adcc because they got rid of that steroid monkey who threatened craig jones--although in the broader sense yes it is bad for adcc to be put to the test like this. It's bad for craig jones because he has much more work to do and potentially the event is going to be embarrassing for him.
It's good for the spectators because all of the matches will be available on youtube. Way better than flo grappling which is attempting and apparently failing to monetize grappling competitions. They may be succeeding in monetizing grappling, but they are failing to make video of grappling available on a large scale.
I hope Craig really pays the athletes what he promised 💵💵💵💵💵💵don’t be like Metamoris he owes a lot of athletes 💵💵💵💵
lost me as a listener, no need to be so bitter Chewie or kiss ass
its a charity. tax write off.
Its unprofitable becasue of the decisions that Mo has been making, not fundamentally the product that is being sold.. FLO is a shit company. They are standing directly in the way of making the sport larger.
Agreed. The fact that he can put drummers/fireworks in there one moment, deliberately pick an expensive venue, but then say "fine, we'll change women's pay", tells you they're sitting on the proverbial mountain of gold.
Mo's been found out and he's just digging himself a hole.
Not sure why these bootlickers think getting paid in exposure is enough. Yuri Simoes won absolute and nobody cares about him.
Not a hard concept to understand that reinvesting profits into production and admin doesn’t mean that the show is unprofitable.
@@merkins87don’t forget the $70k it costs to get Bruce Buffer!!!!!
Hehe first I think
These are all straw man arguments. Y’all took an L with this one
Boomer 😂
Boo Adcc sucks pay your damn athletes