Teefax: The New Ceefax! BBC The One Show, 29 January 2020 - Teletext
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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Angela Rippon presents a segment on Ceefax and its successor, Teefax. Featuring Mort Smith and Peter Kwan, who presents a gallery of teletext art... and the mythical Ceefax Holidays.
I want BBC to do a digital version of Ceefax as a retro mode for Red Button as an anniversary for it.
I was thinking about this yesterday! It would be cool if the BBC collaborated with all the teletext artists on a Ceefax anniversary reboot project. :-)
me too
@@illarterate they say it isn't possible because of the way digital works but that's not true. The Teletext system here in the Netherlands stood the test of time and survived the digital switchover
@@ThatRetroGuy2005 Yeah, possibly! It could be shown in a Pages From Ceefax--style format. I haven't worked on it in the year since I posted this message, though. :-D
If only it was done for BBC 100.
We were the first people in our street to get a teletext set. The reason being is that before ceefax, my dad had to walk up to the bookies to find out if his horses had won. As soon as he found out that he could find out racing results within minutes of the race taking place and then only go there if he’d won, he was straight off to radio rentals.
Perfect analogy, the comparison with preserving the experience of steam trains. Teletext is something I do hope will never be forgotten by the history books. It was really the world's first on demand information service, which is an achievement not to be undervalued.
The steam train experience guides usually have period clothing. Likewise, I dress like someone from the '70s... not just when using Teefax, but all day, every day. :P
It never died here In germany, it still being used
The same goes for the Netherlands. Teletext or as we type it as TeleTekst celebrated its 40th anniversary this year.
@@illarterate 😷😷😷😷🤦🏻🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♂️
@@DokuFREENET Yeah, I live in Australia and we have all of the channels (including the HD channels) such as 9HD Brisbane, ABC ME, ABC Kids/ABC TV Plus, SBS, SBS Viceland HD, etc.
Fun fact: in sweden when then switched to digital tv they decided to make a digital version of teletext but it looked EXACLY like it always did although most channels don’t use it anymore (I know svt still uses it but tv4 and tv5 and a few other channels turned it off) so yeah
It’s part of the DVB standard so it IS teletext, same as it was before, still compatible with a teletext decoder from 1976 and forward.
Most digital boxes also insert teletext into the video signal when using SCART/composite.
Loved teletext grwing up. Used to check out the music pages and BBC had an 8 bit computer section updated on a Sunday morning. Used to put subtitles on for a bit of fun, and then forgot I had done it. I'd go to bed and my parents would get annoyed as they didn't know how to turn them off! My dad eventually got to grips with it. He was 80 last week and still uses the internet daily if he's not at a karoake bar.
I miss Ceefax. I loved using it. I played Bamboozle daily! My sister and I had running totals!
I also looked at the jobs pages.
Bamboozle now that’s a blast from the past. The junior quiz on a Saturday
Glad to hear that Ceefax in a way is bringing it back.
In Australia every TAB betting outlet has Sky text and it's exactly the same system as ceefax so even if we can't access it from our televisions at home there's still a version of it at tab betting outlets😊
If I could start my own country, I would definitely offer a Teletext service on the TV channels in my country! Always good to have a backup for if your internet goes down! Not to mention, with the recent announcement of Sky Glass, a streaming TV, I've been questioning whether new tech is worth getting excited for anymore. Smartphones and tablets need to be replaced every 3-4 years, your internet is prone to the occasional outage, the streaming market is getting too saturated and a lot of it is making me long for the 90s and even (to a lesser extent) the 2000s! Disney are foolish for making me pay for Disney+ on top of my Sky subscription by shutting down their satellite channels last year! Teletext may not have offered as much functionality as the internet, but at least it took less time to setup!
the digital switch over killed ceefax
And the thing is, it didn't have to. Pretty sure even on digital cable (from Telewest) back in the 2000s the channels carried Teletext in their digital transmissions alongside whatever the digital text was, I think Freeview channels carried Teletext as well as whatever Red Button service the channels had to pre-analogue switch off.
So the old teletext services could have carried on over digital TV.
Why on earth the red button was saved is bonkers!
I thought I was a nerd but I got nothing on that guy. Maybe another decade and I'll get there. Wonderful resurrection of nostalgia.
Well...legends never die
I'm glad we still have teletext in our country
They still have it in Hungary, good to see it’s still about although not here.
We still have teletext in Poland!
No we don’t
Wednesday 29th January 2020
With BBC News we don't really having rolling news nowadays Angela ;) we have a lot of non-news repeating... outside source, click yada yada.
Teafax it sud be a website
¡¡¡¡¡WOW!!!!! ¿¡Un Ceefax digital!?
¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡DIOS MÍO!!!!!!!!!!!
This is absolute genius
teletext is still working in other countries if i press teletext on my tv when using satellite (astra 1) it comes up
This is still in use here in germany,it is called: Teletext. It's even avaliable through the internet
I love ARD Text! They really like teletext art, which is fantastic. :-)
4:20 ha shrek
taught myself how to read at the age of two using teletext
Love it ...
Quite cool how you can view Teefax online. Has brought back many memories!
Yeah, Peter K is a legend.
By the way, have you seen NMS Ceefax? It’s the new new Ceefax! 😂
@@illarterate I'll have a look!
@@illarterateNMS is missing that game, but is available on the other teefax page by zx
That page seems to be missing the game, but is available for the older tfx page by Z @@illarterate
@@illarterateceefax is missing bamb, but is in teefax
Media 1.0 user can read only articles
Media 2.0 user can write comments under articles
Sounds like we need comments under teletext pages. ;-)
@@illarterate I envisioned teletext adding a chat room since the 90s :>
Media 3.0 User can write comments containing pre-approved opinions on articles.
basically the internet in the 70's XD
Ah Yes the slow loading Footie Scores if you missed MOTD. As I supported West Brom when you saw W load then E the S Then t it was like West ooooh then Brom or Bromwich Albion or If it was West Ham United then the score then our opposition then If I think it was the Goalscorer
Pourquoi Pas En FRANCE LA, Leur Télétext Anglaise Me Plait PAS Trop Avec Leur Design Abusif Je Préfère Celui De L'europe.
Germany has some great teletext design. :-)
You do get tele text now but its not like it was then.
Lots of European countries still have teletext! Not many of them are in English, but we can still look at the artwork. :-)
@@illarterate When I first moved to Finland a few years ago I was quite astonished that Teletext (teksti tv) was still going, even on DVB. Sure it's encapsulated in a different way but it's otherwise the same. There's an online version for Yle, the national broadcaster, here: yle.fi/aihe/tekstitv
@@rjgscotland Finland is much smarter than the UK, keeping their analogue teletext services. :-D
I love YLE. They have an English section and a rotating selection of teletext art.
@@illarterate 2 Channels in Ireland have Digital Teletext, then the rest from channel 3 to Channel 13 have Analog Teletext but only say: Switch to page 888 for subtitles, or on Channel 4 (TG4) it said it in Irish for 5 years then it went blank.
@@RyanGonTV Did it show the Channel 4 logo as well? I've seen the UK version of that monochrome holding page. Something so satisfying, and yet so sad, about it.
I can make this
4:16 plz don’t tell me that the
Teefax
What channels still use teefax?
You can get it on Raspberry Pi and some other places online, but presently it isn't broadcast on a public TV station. 👍
zxnet.co.uk/teletext/viewer/
I wonder who does digitiser on teefax?
I believe the Digi pages on Teefax are genuine Digitisers! By Biffo and everything. I really like the carousel of his teletext advert spoofs as well.
@@illarterate Really?
I never knew he was still doing the original page.
That's brilliant.
@@Gambit771 I believe the Digi(s) on there are from the olden days, though there is a newer, one-week only teletext Digi that Biffo made in about 2018... the ad parodies are from around that time too.
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@adammartyn is this where u got the inspiration for the vid