The unsubtle hint is the Terminator at the end - it has the Inquisition symbol on its forehead, specifically of the Deathwatch. Furthermore, the quote at the very end says "Suffer Not The Alien To Live" - the motto of the Deathwatch. The five chapters featured in the teaser will most likely feature together in a Deathwatch Kill Team is my guess.
Scythes, Mortifactors, Sons of Medusa, Blood Angels, and his own homebrewed sons of Dorn in the Retributors. The guy has a real love for some of the smaller and more obscure chapters (aside from the Blangles) and I'm definitely looking forwards to it.
It occurred to me, if you consider that the US is an Imperial power, and Trump annexes Mars like he says he wants to, that would make him the Space Emperor for real. LOL!
@@NovaSoldier yeah, they said something about this being memories of their past, so probably primaris, but hopefully they stay in the terminator armour which was mercifully spared primarisation
Looks like they are going to be a Death Watch Kill Team, so they will almost certainly have crossed the Rubicon Primaris by the time of the start of the series.
What I love most about Astartes is that it has the kind of quality that couldn’t be reproduced no matter how many millions of dollars were thrown at it. It’s something that could only have been made by one exceptionally rare individual with an obsessed vision and unparalleled talent.
This I think comes from Sayamas understanding of how Astartes would actually be if they were real! Everyone else seems to have a comic book interpretation.
the first astartes was basically an exercise in show don't tell which seems a bit like a lost art nowadays, the bar is set pretty high so lets hope the new one can match it
11:46 These ballers are the Emperors Scythes. Ultramarine Successor chapter whose home world was ravaged by tyranids. Thanks to Cawls shenanigans not only has the chapter been replenished, but he has started the process of habitation for the planet.
The more I learn about cawl the more i realize that he is probably the closest thing the imperium has to an actual savior on the technological side. Guilliman is great, but he alone cannot bring back *invention*
Notable events in the history of the Scythes: Their homeworld is built on a Necron C’tan prison, which doubled as a teleporter. This was a point of strategic import when Guilliman was running a second Imperium during the Horus Heresy. The teleportation device, known as the Pharos Engine, had to be destroyed during an invasion by a cell of Nightlords. The resulting explosion lit up the galaxy so much, so brilliantly, that the Tyranids caught sight of it in the void between galaxies and quickly changed their heading, a new target in mind. The operator of The Pharos Engine, a loyalist Iron Warrior named Dantioch, gave his life to keep it from enemy hands. He defied Peturabo during a costly campaign, and his censure led to him welding a mask to his head permanently in the likeness of his legion’s icon, an iron skull. He is memorialized in the capital of Guilliman’s domain as “The Traitor Redeemed”. His mask is a monument and its likeness is used in the Scythes, their head honcho’s helmet always crafted in the shape of its first guardian. Sotha, the homeworld of the Scythes, has been destroyed by a tendril of Hive Fleet Leviathan. It exists in a Goldilocks zone whereby terraforming is possible, and Cawl has taken great pains to ensure its eventual return to habitability. Scythes and civilians share in duties towards upkeep of their civilization. Not only do they serve as the protectors of its history, but quite often both Astartes and mortal have had to cull the hostile plant life that seeks to seize the tamed lands they call home, side by side. This is especially heartbreaking, as the invasion of the nids means their population of civilians and space marines are doubtless infected by genestealers, and have turned on each other during the harvest. Sotharan heraldry depicts a knight in black armor atop a white horse. Much of their mythology centers around equine imagery, right down to the twelve horses of legend. This is perplexing, as no ecological records of horses exist on Sotha.
@@CorwinTheOneAndOnlyI don't like him. The appeal of the Imperium was that it was an empire in decline, that everything great exists in the past and that every victory is another day bought by the blood of millions. Then in 8th edition, suddenly the Imperium is out of nowhere better armed than it has ever been all thanks to one guy, who has been sitting on all these innovations for over ten thousand years, only to release them all at once.
Syama Pederson and I accidentally met in my small town in New Zealand once... Didn't know who he was and only later realized I was standing next to someone I admire massively for what he accomplished alone, just standing in a small dairy buying milk... I had watched Astartes 2 nights before. I kicked myself all week.
He seems to still be working with GW outside of this project but it appears they are like "yes post on your own page we need good PR from the fans" he was also behind the design and layout for The Secret Level episode
@InternetHydra I totally agree I was sad to see he didn't have it up. GW took it down along with countless other fan pages for no real reason but hired him and reuploaded it on their services with a terrible greenish or blueish filter I think it was and I think changed some sound effects or added a different backing sound to it
The chapters are: The Retributors (grey), Sons of Medusa (green), Mortifactors (White/ black), Angels Vermillion (red), Scythes of the Emperor (black/ yellow)
The orks may be from Golgotha, a red desert planet with brown skinned orks. They're from the Gunheads book, one of my faves. I made my ork army after them with a grimdark vibe.
This is very similar to the original teaser for Astartes 2 before the creator was made an offer he couldn't refuse. Shot for shot in many cases, like the Ork beatdown. Though in the original, it was a Lamenter getting krumped, which was so much for fitting.
Looks like they are going to be a Death Watch Kill Team, so they will almost certainly have crossed the Rubicon Primaris by the time of the start of the series.
Everything in the trailer looks like Firstborn stuff, the really iconic 40k lookin' stuff, so for all we know it could be set before Gullimans return into the narrative. Which'll be fun.
Disclaimer, the Warhammer website states nothing in the trailer will be shown in the final products.... I don't really believe it, because why waste the time and effort on making the snippets for the trailer without expanding on it? But this is GW, never underestimate to fuck us over.
@ That does make sense, because the whole idea is this is them before they become a Deathwatch Killteam, but still. Could all be firstborn, maybe even no rubicon stuff will be mentioned. I'd like no primaris stuff in my space marine, that's all.
Even if the show is set a hundred years after astartes there will be no primaris as the timeline date shown right at the beginning of astartes is many hundreds of years before primaris even existed.
I have run the Scythes of the Emperor (the Not Helldivers) website since 1997 - seeing them fight and stride onward confidently, from obscurity to Astartes II? I honestly have no words.
Given the main characters come from multiple different chapters in their "past lives", I suspect that "unsubtle hint" is the inquisition logo on the terminators head, meaning maybe astartes 2 will be about a deathwatch terminator team? That first quote about many brotherhoods working together makes more sense now.
Space Marine fashion in a nutshell: Add more skulls. Like in Space Marine 2 when you get a new piece of armour and its the same thing with an extra skull 😅
If all the characters are from different chapters, which is what it seems like from the shots with each of their heraldry, I assume this story is gonna be either 1. A Deathwatch story, or 2. Other characters were summoned to that weird place from the final shot of the original Astartes and they are now coming together to escape or something. The first guy who is from the same Chapter as the space marines in Astartes 1 (a homebrew chapter by the guy that made it), they seem to be fighting chaos space marines and their followers after they descend into the depths of a hive city. The second guy who is from the chapter with the crossed scythes is fighting tyranids, I cannot tell if he is also the one fighting the orcs or if that is the Blood Angel assault marine. The third guy is the blood angel, seems like their ship crashed or they were attacking into a crashing ship, hard to tell. The green armored guys with white helmets seem to be fighting Tau. The last guy with the skull painted onto his helmet is certainly killing a human (probably a traitor or a heretic). Looking at the terminator armor at the end it has the Inquisitorial seal on it so I'd lean more towards this being a Deathwatch story as they are under the Inquisition, you have 3 guys who have a past killing Xenos of various types & 2 killing chaos cultists/space marines, all of these are VERY within the Deathwatch wheelhouse. Who knows, maybe along with this series they're gonna relaunch the Deathwatch TTRPG system they had going for a while there.
I myself enjoy both. But one thing I want to see more is more Helmet and Armour Variations with different equipment and attachments. It can give a more unique feeling between different chapters aswell
The people behind these movies really know how to create that hard battlefield atmosphere when there is action. The graphics are sharp and well coloured, the marines look and preform in a profession way and that killing is natural to them. Even those Orks look terrifying! Sound quality is super nice! well done guys and I hope we get two see much more very soon.
That orc beat down was at the end of the original series (plus some other bits) as an upcomming preview as well. That part is not new, but was scrubbed from youtube after the buyout.
It's really fun hearing the perspective of someone who grew up with 40k, not a tourist, but not constantly living in the 40k sphere. Carl obviously doesn't focus on 40k but it's easy to hear his love for it in his voice and see the excitement on his face
The scythes are the chapter I play in space marine 2 . I’ve listened to 256 warhammer audio books and this is how I picture warhammer in my mind now . This is a great animation . I’m so happy for the guy .
I thought GW hiring the guy was a means to end the project in a way that avoids backlash. Very glas to see I may be wrong, or that he got it out from under their thumb.
This is the perfect thing, don't say what is happening, don't say what a person or thing is, show us. And this shows us, the fact we can feel, and think and see all the things happening and understand it without a spoken word is awesome. Addendum: It was important to see the orkz kill that marine in the middle of the trailer. It puts into perspective that yeah these warriors are super badass and powerful. However look at what they are up against, they can die easily so the stakes are really high. Goosebumps.
I genuinely believe that Mr. Pedersen is finally free from GW's thrall after being forced to work for them over 4+ years ago when they went on a C&D spree before Warhammer+ came out. The projects in this new series of animations looks amazing, but he seems to have moved on with his own animation channel Digital Bones where he's working on animations for an entirely new sci-fi universe apart from 40k. I would highly recommend giving it a look in.
@jasonwright8546 That would be amazing. From what I've read this Astartes 2 series is going to be locked behind a games workshop subscription. That's going to severely limit the reach of the series IMO
@ Leave it to GW to make the worst of all possible decisions, lol! They could put it out for everyone and use it to mega hype their cinematic universe project, and end up making a f ton more money than they will get from additional subs to WH+. But no, of course not, that would make sense...
My brother and I started 40k in 1994, and my favourite minis then were my Chaos Dreadnoguht and my Bjorn the Fell handed. Fast forward to now, my 6 year old son LOVES dreadnoughts. So we have built a collection of dreadnoughts and sometimes play some 40k games with only dreadnoughts and simple rules my 6 y.o. can handle. Seeing leviathans, contemptors and most importantly all our Boxnoughts battle it out on my kitchen table makes for an excellent evening of father and som bonding over a game of 40k
IMO the best thing about the original Astartes shorts is just how professional the Space Marines are portrayed as. A huge part of that is that there was no dialogue, except for the xenos. They don't need to explain their every move for the audience's sake, they are just incredibly efficient killing machines getting on with their job. THAT'S what makes it feel so real. They were obviously communicating via vox, but the audience doesn't need to hear it. One of the big downsides of having dialogue (especially in action scenes) that never gets talked about is how often it brings the pacing to a screeching halt, and can often completely ruin the mood or theme of your scene. Astartes could have had dialogue explaining things for the normies, and it probably would have doubled the runtime, but the creator didn't compromise his vision for the sake of clarity.
Just like the first quote, what makes the spacemarines awesome its that they have purpose. Every action they make its precise , coordinated, (from walking, to shooting, fighting) even when the situation might get them on the "wrong foot".
P.S. at 01:04 are the Emperors Scythes ,if im not mistaken. Spoiler: their chapter was very tested, lets say. But overall probably the best tyrannid slayers out there.
The Orks really resemble the renditions we see in the LotR movies. Which I find to be great because they, too, were grim and fearsome and tremendous threats. Making 40k Orks a bit closer to the source material to give them that sort of menacing aura is glorious.
I kinda like the idea that prospective dictates the perception of Orks. From the Ork prospective they're silly, light hearted lads lookin' for a scrap. While from anyone else's prospective they're terrifying, deceptively clever monsters.
As every good marine I’ve had the honor to talk to over the years has said. The best way to win an engagement is to hit the enemy hard enough and fast enough that they fall. Space Marines are the absolute pinnacle of this ethos.
Deathwatch. My guess is that you are looking at the members of a Killteam and the circumstances behind their selection. Specific ones will stand above their peers against their xeno foes. Marking them out as worthy of the Watch. The Shield that Slays.
12:00 those are Scythes of the Emperor, a chapter that was all but wiped out by the Tyrannids. Their homeworld was Sotha, the planet where the Pharos device was located at. They are an interesting Chapter due to their culture as they value baseline humans as equals to them and the Chapter Masters had a council of normal humans in additition to other scythes as his advisors. They are pretty much the reasonable marines in lore as for example their Chapter Monestary was located close to the planets main space port so that the Chapters forces and AA and Anti Space defenses will deter any piratical actions that could damage Sothas economy. Culturally the end rite for any marine before he is fully accepted into the Chapter is to walk up the stairs of a mountain that is flanked all the way to the top with the statues of the heroes, both human and astartes, of the great crusade and horus heresy that tower over the neophyte so that he understands that the deeds of those from that past overshadow him and that he has to earn the right to right to even stand in their shadow. Their story has a dark tone to them as genestealers inflitrated Sotha and with that the advisory council from which they sabotaged the planets defenses. Ironically its their good nature towards humans that proved to be their downfall.
I'm surprised you didn't comment the lack of new stuff, no primaris, no floating tanks, no new dreadnought. For me it gave 3rd/4th edition vibes especially the obvious DEATHWATCH clue at the end which was a big new thing in 3rd edition
If they’re saying this is a compilation of glimpses into the pasts of the characters from different chapters, it follows that these characters will be together in some way which is uncommon for different chapters EXCEPT in the death watch where the inquisition forms kill teams from space marines of various chapters. The final shot being a death watch terminator leads me to believe this is probably going to be a death watch story, and death watch is known for anti-chaos activities.
I am definitely hyped AF for this, hopefully there won't be any Primaris in Astartes II come release next year! also: when the three ork boys are beating on the one Astartes, we actually do not see him die, and there is no blood on the choppas either! Such exquisite attention to detail from Syama, then again we have come to expect that from *Astartes*
I always thought that it would be cool to paint a Deathwatch group with Black 4.0 for the base, with the left arm either the "Silveriest Silver or Mirroriest Mirror", with detachable right shoulder pauldrons that can be swapped out between the different Loyalist legions and also, a set of the loyalists with battle damage showing the Alpha Legion pauldron underneath. Give you the ability to run either Deathwatch, whichever Loyalist legions you have pauldrons painted, or an Alpha Legion strikeforce, all with the same models. The point behind using Black 4.0 is that it soaks up light, and when combined with the "Mirroriest Mirror", it might cause a fair amount of dissonance to look at for a period of time.
The astartes with the helldiver scheme are the Scythes of the Emperor, a 3rd Founding Successor Chapter of the Ultramarines. They seem to be a rather old part of the lore too from what I can find from the wiki's sources.
Original idea for the astartes animations was to mainly use homebrew chapters. Seeing now how GW pushed for canon and teased how this is basically going to be about deathwatch following the success of Space Marine 2 makes you question how much creative freedom Sayama really has here.
They still got the retributors chapter in the trailer. Also, he wasnt working for gw so probably couldnt mention any official stuff because gw would have gotten it taken down.
There's details you get over rewatch. There's this scene of the Sons of Medusa (iron hands successor) They're taking a position and moving down an alley. And the one with the heavy bolter on overwatch is next to a wall. Which has graffiti scrawled on it "The emperor forgets!" And that was all I needed to understand what was happening. Urban, close. Something awful much larger than them is happening. And they are just a part of it. Just peak atmosphere
Firstly... *NEW ZEALAND REPRESENT!!!!* Secondly - on the Movement - what it reminds me of is when you watch videos of like the SAS or Delta Force training - just the speed and violence of well practiced drills, formations and tactics that have been beaten into someone to the point where it is not even a conscious thought - it is Instinct. And it is glorious to watch.
11:00 its not just the Dreadnaught being the old version. All of the Chapter depicted are wearing MK6/7/8 meaning they are all first born Astartes and not Primaris. Plus the Indomitus Terminator helmet at the end of course.
A million lore channels are pointing out every detail and chapter and blah blah, yet the best commentary is our fellow nerd gushing on why it's so cool.
terminator might move slugishly but its mobility potential is still high the maximum speed is lower but still decent, and it can do short distance TELEPORT witch would be amazing tactical move to see in the show
1:04 are a chapter known as the Scythes of the Emperor they are an Ultramarines successor. Before they were reinforced with the Primaris Marines they were more or less whipped out by a Hive fleet (don’t remember which). Since all these marines are firstborn I assume this is the story of the Scythes right before they got eaten by the Nids.
every faction i seen in the trailer -tau empire (my beloved) Vs rapers chapter -nids Vs Scythes of the Emperor -orks Vs unknown chapter -chaos space marines -blood angles or a successor of -the Astartes creators own custom chapter Retributors (i think? or it could be a iron hands chapter) more stuff is probably shown that i haven't spotted
The Tau are fighting the Sons of Medusa and the Orks fight with a Mortifactor. I think the assault space marine is from the Angels Vermillion because there's a skull in the droplet on the kneecap. It is indeed the Retributors, Syama's very own chapter from the first Astartes which GW made official.
It'll be about dreadnoughts and how they ended up in their boxes. They'll be sitting around as marine is asking them to share their stories while their enroute to fuck up some chaos.
As a long time Lotus Eaters watcher, nothing brings me more joy than seeing Sargon talk about Warhammer
Who’s that ?
Ive been following him since 2014 and i cannot get enough of his warhammer content
@@kylecouillard373Sargon of Akkad
Touché
Crossing the streams man. 😉
The unsubtle hint is the Terminator at the end - it has the Inquisition symbol on its forehead, specifically of the Deathwatch. Furthermore, the quote at the very end says "Suffer Not The Alien To Live" - the motto of the Deathwatch. The five chapters featured in the teaser will most likely feature together in a Deathwatch Kill Team is my guess.
Scythes, Mortifactors, Sons of Medusa, Blood Angels, and his own homebrewed sons of Dorn in the Retributors. The guy has a real love for some of the smaller and more obscure chapters (aside from the Blangles) and I'm definitely looking forwards to it.
I love it when a team comes together.
Looks like those are not Blood Angels, they are the successor chapter Angels Vermillion. Not that I could tell the diference myself.
Trump term 1: Astartes
Biden term: No Astartes
Trump term 2: Astartes II
Coincidence? I think not.
The Emperor of Man has returned and this is a gift to welcome him back!
Scythes of the emperor are orange. It's a sign!
Biden made Astartes in his free time, confirmed.
MSM spin is the orange fascist is promoting fascism lol
It occurred to me, if you consider that the US is an Imperial power, and Trump annexes Mars like he says he wants to, that would make him the Space Emperor for real. LOL!
"Suffer not the Alien to live"...boy what timing
In before REEEE'ing about 'something something allegory for ...' Be ready to point and lol at the usual suspects.
The Emperor protects the faithful. The traitor, the mutant, and the xeno must be purged.
Warhammer 2k
Death Watch Motto.
@@Theranthrope lol xD
He doesn't use the primaris version either, which indicates he had a lot of creative freedom with this.
In the gw page they have confirmed that they wont use anything from the trailer, makes me worry that the primaris will indeed show up
@@NovaSoldier yeah, they said something about this being memories of their past, so probably primaris, but hopefully they stay in the terminator armour which was mercifully spared primarisation
@@Rajayali Why do you guys hate the primaris so much? Other than them being an excuse for GW to resell their model I mean
Could be lore accurate as the trailer could be before the primaris
Looks like they are going to be a Death Watch Kill Team, so they will almost certainly have crossed the Rubicon Primaris by the time of the start of the series.
The helldivers are scythes of the emperor
Sweet Liberty, my Emperor!
Loyalist Death Guard
@ nova marines I think
Scythes of the Emperor. From Ultramarine geneseed.
@@ryanh6971 They are a successor chapter of the Ultra Marines.
What I love most about Astartes is that it has the kind of quality that couldn’t be reproduced no matter how many millions of dollars were thrown at it. It’s something that could only have been made by one exceptionally rare individual with an obsessed vision and unparalleled talent.
This I think comes from Sayamas understanding of how Astartes would actually be if they were real! Everyone else seems to have a comic book interpretation.
The Scythes of the Emperor looked awesome in their orange and black! ⚔️
Ah!
@@ThePonderingoftheorb That terminator looks like a Grey Knight to me, given the forehead seal
@@McAwesomeNuggets Given that the characters will all be from different chapters it's going to be deathwatch.
@@McAwesomeNuggetsDeathwatch most likely.
@@McAwesomeNuggets Deathwatch, not the proper Grey Knight helmet I think.
the first astartes was basically an exercise in show don't tell which seems a bit like a lost art nowadays, the bar is set pretty high so lets hope the new one can match it
And not a primaris in sight!
Thank the Emperor
Such a great catch.
Those lovely Mark 7 helmets everywhere 🥰
Stay vigilant, in the wh page they said that nothing in the trailer would appear in the actual series
Seethe, primaris are king
11:46 These ballers are the Emperors Scythes. Ultramarine Successor chapter whose home world was ravaged by tyranids. Thanks to Cawls shenanigans not only has the chapter been replenished, but he has started the process of habitation for the planet.
The more I learn about cawl the more i realize that he is probably the closest thing the imperium has to an actual savior on the technological side. Guilliman is great, but he alone cannot bring back *invention*
Notable events in the history of the Scythes:
Their homeworld is built on a Necron C’tan prison, which doubled as a teleporter. This was a point of strategic import when Guilliman was running a second Imperium during the Horus Heresy.
The teleportation device, known as the Pharos Engine, had to be destroyed during an invasion by a cell of Nightlords. The resulting explosion lit up the galaxy so much, so brilliantly, that the Tyranids caught sight of it in the void between galaxies and quickly changed their heading, a new target in mind.
The operator of The Pharos Engine, a loyalist Iron Warrior named Dantioch, gave his life to keep it from enemy hands. He defied Peturabo during a costly campaign, and his censure led to him welding a mask to his head permanently in the likeness of his legion’s icon, an iron skull. He is memorialized in the capital of Guilliman’s domain as “The Traitor Redeemed”. His mask is a monument and its likeness is used in the Scythes, their head honcho’s helmet always crafted in the shape of its first guardian.
Sotha, the homeworld of the Scythes, has been destroyed by a tendril of Hive Fleet Leviathan. It exists in a Goldilocks zone whereby terraforming is possible, and Cawl has taken great pains to ensure its eventual return to habitability.
Scythes and civilians share in duties towards upkeep of their civilization. Not only do they serve as the protectors of its history, but quite often both Astartes and mortal have had to cull the hostile plant life that seeks to seize the tamed lands they call home, side by side. This is especially heartbreaking, as the invasion of the nids means their population of civilians and space marines are doubtless infected by genestealers, and have turned on each other during the harvest.
Sotharan heraldry depicts a knight in black armor atop a white horse. Much of their mythology centers around equine imagery, right down to the twelve horses of legend. This is perplexing, as no ecological records of horses exist on Sotha.
@@CorwinTheOneAndOnlyI don't like him. The appeal of the Imperium was that it was an empire in decline, that everything great exists in the past and that every victory is another day bought by the blood of millions.
Then in 8th edition, suddenly the Imperium is out of nowhere better armed than it has ever been all thanks to one guy, who has been sitting on all these innovations for over ten thousand years, only to release them all at once.
@@bilbobagend8155 We are no longer miring in hopelessness anymore. With the herald of the golden emperor, a new age of hope have to folloe
@@bilbobagend8155 The appeal of the Imperium is that it's all the coolest bits from human history, in space, fighting pure evil in the name of God. 🙂
My favorite part is the Bolters. This guy actually understands how big .75 caliber is unlike every, single, other 40k fan.
Syama Pederson and I accidentally met in my small town in New Zealand once...
Didn't know who he was and only later realized I was standing next to someone I admire massively for what he accomplished alone, just standing in a small dairy buying milk... I had watched Astartes 2 nights before.
I kicked myself all week.
He seems to still be working with GW outside of this project but it appears they are like "yes post on your own page we need good PR from the fans" he was also behind the design and layout for The Secret Level episode
A good pr move would be letting him reupload the original and with its original sound design
@InternetHydra I totally agree I was sad to see he didn't have it up. GW took it down along with countless other fan pages for no real reason but hired him and reuploaded it on their services with a terrible greenish or blueish filter I think it was and I think changed some sound effects or added a different backing sound to it
@@yagsipcc287 The sounds might be they just didn't have the rights to those sfx and backing tracks. However, the weird lighting filter is inexcusable.
The chapters are: The Retributors (grey), Sons of Medusa (green), Mortifactors (White/ black), Angels Vermillion (red), Scythes of the Emperor (black/ yellow)
Based. Thank you.
The orks may be from Golgotha, a red desert planet with brown skinned orks. They're from the Gunheads book, one of my faves. I made my ork army after them with a grimdark vibe.
This is very similar to the original teaser for Astartes 2 before the creator was made an offer he couldn't refuse. Shot for shot in many cases, like the Ork beatdown. Though in the original, it was a Lamenter getting krumped, which was so much for fitting.
My favorite part of this trailer was this distinct lack of Primaris
It's just a teaser bro. There's plenty of time for them to appear
Looks like they are going to be a Death Watch Kill Team, so they will almost certainly have crossed the Rubicon Primaris by the time of the start of the series.
Everything in the trailer looks like Firstborn stuff, the really iconic 40k lookin' stuff, so for all we know it could be set before Gullimans return into the narrative.
Which'll be fun.
Indeed its Firstborn's
Disclaimer, the Warhammer website states nothing in the trailer will be shown in the final products....
I don't really believe it, because why waste the time and effort on making the snippets for the trailer without expanding on it?
But this is GW, never underestimate to fuck us over.
@ That does make sense, because the whole idea is this is them before they become a Deathwatch Killteam, but still. Could all be firstborn, maybe even no rubicon stuff will be mentioned.
I'd like no primaris stuff in my space marine, that's all.
Even if the show is set a hundred years after astartes there will be no primaris as the timeline date shown right at the beginning of astartes is many hundreds of years before primaris even existed.
scythes of the emperor are the ones with the clokes.
That point at the end about Astartes being canonised is the real news. If your fanfic is good enough, it can become canon.
In this case the fanfic was better than anything most anyone had seen of Warhammer by a good margin.
@@117johnpar Truth.
and if it's awful... it'll DEFINITELY become cannon, as was proven last year
Grim? check.
Dark? check.
Far Future? check.
Its that easy.
FIRSTBORN FOREVER
It's about time the Firstborn gone some love 💕. I hope their not all Primarisfide when I comes out.
It amazes me at the sheer variety of assets at the same quality and attention to detail.
Well said.
I have run the Scythes of the Emperor (the Not Helldivers) website since 1997 - seeing them fight and stride onward confidently, from obscurity to Astartes II? I honestly have no words.
"Show, don't tell" is the way to do it.
Given the main characters come from multiple different chapters in their "past lives", I suspect that "unsubtle hint" is the inquisition logo on the terminators head, meaning maybe astartes 2 will be about a deathwatch terminator team? That first quote about many brotherhoods working together makes more sense now.
thats the safest money bet.
I just love the little detail of the Blood Angels pauldron. Look closer and you can make out a skull within the blood drop of their Chapter insignia.
Space Marine fashion in a nutshell: Add more skulls. Like in Space Marine 2 when you get a new piece of armour and its the same thing with an extra skull 😅
Don’t ever disrespect the Scythes of the Emperor again or I’ll report you to the inquisition.
The orange and black guys with capes, Scythes of the Emperor, looked so damn cool. They were the highlight of the trailer for me.
If all the characters are from different chapters, which is what it seems like from the shots with each of their heraldry, I assume this story is gonna be either 1. A Deathwatch story, or 2. Other characters were summoned to that weird place from the final shot of the original Astartes and they are now coming together to escape or something.
The first guy who is from the same Chapter as the space marines in Astartes 1 (a homebrew chapter by the guy that made it), they seem to be fighting chaos space marines and their followers after they descend into the depths of a hive city.
The second guy who is from the chapter with the crossed scythes is fighting tyranids, I cannot tell if he is also the one fighting the orcs or if that is the Blood Angel assault marine.
The third guy is the blood angel, seems like their ship crashed or they were attacking into a crashing ship, hard to tell.
The green armored guys with white helmets seem to be fighting Tau.
The last guy with the skull painted onto his helmet is certainly killing a human (probably a traitor or a heretic).
Looking at the terminator armor at the end it has the Inquisitorial seal on it so I'd lean more towards this being a Deathwatch story as they are under the Inquisition, you have 3 guys who have a past killing Xenos of various types & 2 killing chaos cultists/space marines, all of these are VERY within the Deathwatch wheelhouse. Who knows, maybe along with this series they're gonna relaunch the Deathwatch TTRPG system they had going for a while there.
Who can begin to guess. Itll be awesome whatever happens if they stay the course.
Agreed. The Inquisition logo on the Terminator, and the Deathwatch Motto at the end, pretty much cinches it for me.
Shields that slay is a reference to the Deathwatch, as is the "Suffer Not the Alien to Live" quote.
I'm just glad the creator didn't choose Primaris Helmets, I preferred the permanent scowl of the MK VII helmets.
Yeah me too.
I myself enjoy both. But one thing I want to see more is more Helmet and Armour Variations with different equipment and attachments. It can give a more unique feeling between different chapters aswell
The Primaris helm is a helm design that was available on the older Astartes sprues, that nobody used.
Nobody used those helms.
Blimey Sargaroonie!! Scythes Of The Emperor. They were on the cover of the Advanced Space Crusade/Tyranid Attack box.
The channel this is on is the guy who made it he renamed the channel to "Digital Bones" he said it in the community posts
The people behind these movies really know how to create that hard battlefield atmosphere when there is action. The graphics are sharp and well coloured, the marines look and preform in a profession way and that killing is natural to them. Even those Orks look terrifying! Sound quality is super nice! well done guys and I hope we get two see much more very soon.
I'm not even a big 40k guy, yet I am still excited for this project.
That orc beat down was at the end of the original series (plus some other bits) as an upcomming preview as well. That part is not new, but was scrubbed from youtube after the buyout.
In the OG it was a Lamenter, so things have definitely changed around behind the scenes.
It's really fun hearing the perspective of someone who grew up with 40k, not a tourist, but not constantly living in the 40k sphere. Carl obviously doesn't focus on 40k but it's easy to hear his love for it in his voice and see the excitement on his face
Can't wait to watch it, definitely not paying for Warhammer+ tho.
Hasn't it been like 10 FRIGGING YEARS????
6 to be precise
its felt that long
And yet, it still feels like yesterday.
It already looks way better than that Secret Level episode
I thought we'd never see the day
Those Orks look jacked as hell.
Bad Moons I believe.
HOT DAMN! I do believe we are BACK.
The scythes are the chapter I play in space marine 2 . I’ve listened to 256 warhammer audio books and this is how I picture warhammer in my mind now . This is a great animation . I’m so happy for the guy .
Spongebob meme :
"It's what we wanted all along!"
I thought GW hiring the guy was a means to end the project in a way that avoids backlash. Very glas to see I may be wrong, or that he got it out from under their thumb.
He has been working on GW stuff for ages. He helped with the layout and feels for the Secret Level episode as well.
Those are the scythes of the emperor! The color scheme is 🔥
Everything has great kinetic energy.
This is the perfect thing, don't say what is happening, don't say what a person or thing is, show us. And this shows us, the fact we can feel, and think and see all the things happening and understand it without a spoken word is awesome.
Addendum: It was important to see the orkz kill that marine in the middle of the trailer. It puts into perspective that yeah these warriors are super badass and powerful. However look at what they are up against, they can die easily so the stakes are really high. Goosebumps.
I remember when part 3 of astartes was new and I showed it to the guy who works at my local GW shop, he was fucking locked in.
I genuinely believe that Mr. Pedersen is finally free from GW's thrall after being forced to work for them over 4+ years ago when they went on a C&D spree before Warhammer+ came out. The projects in this new series of animations looks amazing, but he seems to have moved on with his own animation channel Digital Bones where he's working on animations for an entirely new sci-fi universe apart from 40k. I would highly recommend giving it a look in.
It better be at least a full half hour if we're waiting so long.
I love it how youre watching the trailer in Digital Bones's channel instead of GW's official channel
Death Watch. It's gonna be a Death Watch
Did you miss the Chaos Space marines in this trailer? It looks like the big tower and flame scene are Nurgle Space Marines.
The Astartes guy needs to be given a modern hollywood movie budget.
He might. I am hearing rumors that Henry Cavil wants him for the WH40k Cinematic Universe stuff with Amazon.
@jasonwright8546 That would be amazing. From what I've read this Astartes 2 series is going to be locked behind a games workshop subscription. That's going to severely limit the reach of the series IMO
@ Leave it to GW to make the worst of all possible decisions, lol! They could put it out for everyone and use it to mega hype their cinematic universe project, and end up making a f ton more money than they will get from additional subs to WH+. But no, of course not, that would make sense...
My brother and I started 40k in 1994, and my favourite minis then were my Chaos Dreadnoguht and my Bjorn the Fell handed. Fast forward to now, my 6 year old son LOVES dreadnoughts. So we have built a collection of dreadnoughts and sometimes play some 40k games with only dreadnoughts and simple rules my 6 y.o. can handle. Seeing leviathans, contemptors and most importantly all our Boxnoughts battle it out on my kitchen table makes for an excellent evening of father and som bonding over a game of 40k
GW finally unleashed Syama Pedersen.
It's definitely setting up for Deathwatch, showing us Marines from the Mortifactors, Retributors, Raptors, and Scythes of the Emperor.
Not Raptors, despite the green. Sons of Medusa.
IMO the best thing about the original Astartes shorts is just how professional the Space Marines are portrayed as. A huge part of that is that there was no dialogue, except for the xenos. They don't need to explain their every move for the audience's sake, they are just incredibly efficient killing machines getting on with their job. THAT'S what makes it feel so real. They were obviously communicating via vox, but the audience doesn't need to hear it. One of the big downsides of having dialogue (especially in action scenes) that never gets talked about is how often it brings the pacing to a screeching halt, and can often completely ruin the mood or theme of your scene.
Astartes could have had dialogue explaining things for the normies, and it probably would have doubled the runtime, but the creator didn't compromise his vision for the sake of clarity.
well; Lamenter escaped that Ork... that is a surprise.
space marine 2, doom dark ages, astartes 2, and wh40k secret level
Dark fantasy is eating well. Specifically warhammer itself. Its doing fantastic
Just like the first quote, what makes the spacemarines awesome its that they have purpose. Every action they make its precise , coordinated, (from walking, to shooting, fighting) even when the situation might get them on the "wrong foot".
P.S. at 01:04 are the Emperors Scythes ,if im not mistaken. Spoiler: their chapter was very tested, lets say. But overall probably the best tyrannid slayers out there.
The Orks really resemble the renditions we see in the LotR movies. Which I find to be great because they, too, were grim and fearsome and tremendous threats. Making 40k Orks a bit closer to the source material to give them that sort of menacing aura is glorious.
I kinda like the idea that prospective dictates the perception of Orks.
From the Ork prospective they're silly, light hearted lads lookin' for a scrap. While from anyone else's prospective they're terrifying, deceptively clever monsters.
The grey knight at the end 👀
That's a Deathwatch terminator.
I thought the same then realised Grey Knights have different helms. So yeah ....Deathwatch Terminator. Would love to see some Grey Knight action.
As every good marine I’ve had the honor to talk to over the years has said. The best way to win an engagement is to hit the enemy hard enough and fast enough that they fall. Space Marines are the absolute pinnacle of this ethos.
Deathwatch. My guess is that you are looking at the members of a Killteam and the circumstances behind their selection. Specific ones will stand above their peers against their xeno foes. Marking them out as worthy of the Watch.
The Shield that Slays.
Glad to see the Orks tuck into a proper krumpin’
I passed the test. 😌
_I did not falter!_ 😫
I watched all of this video before I went to watch Astartes II. 😊
That "Helldivers" color scheme, are the Emperor's Scythes. Heraldry tipped me off
Theyre all firstborn too. Nature truly is healing.
12:00 those are Scythes of the Emperor, a chapter that was all but wiped out by the Tyrannids.
Their homeworld was Sotha, the planet where the Pharos device was located at.
They are an interesting Chapter due to their culture as they value baseline humans as equals to them and the Chapter Masters had a council of normal humans in additition to other scythes as his advisors. They are pretty much the reasonable marines in lore as for example their Chapter Monestary was located close to the planets main space port so that the Chapters forces and AA and Anti Space defenses will deter any piratical actions that could damage Sothas economy.
Culturally the end rite for any marine before he is fully accepted into the Chapter is to walk up the stairs of a mountain that is flanked all the way to the top with the statues of the heroes, both human and astartes, of the great crusade and horus heresy that tower over the neophyte so that he understands that the deeds of those from that past overshadow him and that he has to earn the right to right to even stand in their shadow.
Their story has a dark tone to them as genestealers inflitrated Sotha and with that the advisory council from which they sabotaged the planets defenses. Ironically its their good nature towards humans that proved to be their downfall.
Note the inquisitorial crest on the Terminator. Likely a Grey Knight, or at least Deathwatch.
I'm surprised you didn't comment the lack of new stuff, no primaris, no floating tanks, no new dreadnought. For me it gave 3rd/4th edition vibes especially the obvious DEATHWATCH clue at the end which was a big new thing in 3rd edition
If they’re saying this is a compilation of glimpses into the pasts of the characters from different chapters, it follows that these characters will be together in some way which is uncommon for different chapters EXCEPT in the death watch where the inquisition forms kill teams from space marines of various chapters. The final shot being a death watch terminator leads me to believe this is probably going to be a death watch story, and death watch is known for anti-chaos activities.
As an Iron Hands fan, I'm just glad that they are finally getting a look in even if its through their successors, the Sons of Medusa.
For SuperTerra! Those xenos will know the wonders of Manged Democracy bestowed to us by The Emperor!
I am definitely hyped AF for this, hopefully there won't be any Primaris in Astartes II come release next year!
also: when the three ork boys are beating on the one Astartes, we actually do not see him die, and there is no blood on the choppas either! Such exquisite attention to detail from Syama, then again we have come to expect that from *Astartes*
These types of videos bring back memories. Shadilay, everybody.
I can't believe they actually let the guy out of their dark prison to do this.
I always thought that it would be cool to paint a Deathwatch group with Black 4.0 for the base, with the left arm either the "Silveriest Silver or Mirroriest Mirror", with detachable right shoulder pauldrons that can be swapped out between the different Loyalist legions and also, a set of the loyalists with battle damage showing the Alpha Legion pauldron underneath.
Give you the ability to run either Deathwatch, whichever Loyalist legions you have pauldrons painted, or an Alpha Legion strikeforce, all with the same models.
The point behind using Black 4.0 is that it soaks up light, and when combined with the "Mirroriest Mirror", it might cause a fair amount of dissonance to look at for a period of time.
I don't play Chaos Space marines. But seeing "The Emperor Forgets" graffiti I thought was super cool.
"This is really what orks would be like," he said with all seriousness...
I hope some astartes do talk in this new series, but its only to chaos and its as they curb stomp them
So basically the whole show will be a deathwatch show
The astartes with the helldiver scheme are the Scythes of the Emperor, a 3rd Founding Successor Chapter of the Ultramarines. They seem to be a rather old part of the lore too from what I can find from the wiki's sources.
I just realized, in Warhammer normal humans are the hobbit race.
Original idea for the astartes animations was to mainly use homebrew chapters. Seeing now how GW pushed for canon and teased how this is basically going to be about deathwatch following the success of Space Marine 2 makes you question how much creative freedom Sayama really has here.
They still got the retributors chapter in the trailer. Also, he wasnt working for gw so probably couldnt mention any official stuff because gw would have gotten it taken down.
There's details you get over rewatch.
There's this scene of the Sons of Medusa (iron hands successor) They're taking a position and moving down an alley. And the one with the heavy bolter on overwatch is next to a wall. Which has graffiti scrawled on it
"The emperor forgets!"
And that was all I needed to understand what was happening. Urban, close. Something awful much larger than them is happening. And they are just a part of it. Just peak atmosphere
Firstly... *NEW ZEALAND REPRESENT!!!!*
Secondly - on the Movement - what it reminds me of is when you watch videos of like the SAS or Delta Force training - just the speed and violence of well practiced drills, formations and tactics that have been beaten into someone to the point where it is not even a conscious thought - it is Instinct.
And it is glorious to watch.
11:00 its not just the Dreadnaught being the old version.
All of the Chapter depicted are wearing MK6/7/8 meaning they are all first born Astartes and not Primaris.
Plus the Indomitus Terminator helmet at the end of course.
A million lore channels are pointing out every detail and chapter and blah blah, yet the best commentary is our fellow nerd gushing on why it's so cool.
This puts the final nail in the coffin for Primaris. these are actual space marines, and look bad ass. Primaris look silly.
terminator might move slugishly but its mobility potential is still high
the maximum speed is lower but still decent, and it can do short distance TELEPORT witch would be amazing tactical move to see in the show
1:04 are a chapter known as the Scythes of the Emperor they are an Ultramarines successor. Before they were reinforced with the Primaris Marines they were more or less whipped out by a Hive fleet (don’t remember which). Since all these marines are firstborn I assume this is the story of the Scythes right before they got eaten by the Nids.
every faction i seen in the trailer
-tau empire (my beloved) Vs rapers chapter
-nids Vs Scythes of the Emperor
-orks Vs unknown chapter
-chaos space marines
-blood angles or a successor of
-the Astartes creators own custom chapter Retributors (i think? or it could be a iron hands chapter)
more stuff is probably shown that i haven't spotted
The Tau are fighting the Sons of Medusa and the Orks fight with a Mortifactor. I think the assault space marine is from the Angels Vermillion because there's a skull in the droplet on the kneecap. It is indeed the Retributors, Syama's very own chapter from the first Astartes which GW made official.
It'll be about dreadnoughts and how they ended up in their boxes. They'll be sitting around as marine is asking them to share their stories while their enroute to fuck up some chaos.