I’ve been looking forward to this video! I picked up a pair after shortly chatting with you and since April 20th I’ve already put 170 miles on them. I have a pretty extensive rotation but they’re the only shoe I’ve been reaching for lately. With my shoes I like to let the miles do the talking. Right now it’s the shoe of the year for me.
Awesome to hear…. I’m glad you are enjoying them. This is currently almost shoe of the year for me… there is one I am reaching for more for road running…. But the VN3 is the more versatile pick.
Can’t wait for all of the versus daily trainer videos. I just bought the SL2 (Lucid Lemon/Black colorway) and the Supernova Rise (same colorway as yours) yesterday. They should arrive later this week and can’t wait to test each shoe. I plan to use the SL2 as my go-to daily trainer and the Rise as my non-plated long run and recovery effort shoe. What an exciting time for the daily trainer market now after all the hype on the super shoes earlier in the year. Thank you for the continued high quality content.
I'm not sure when the SL 2 will be here in Taiwan. I went to the flagship Adidas store here in Taipei yesterday and they had no idea. The SL2 isn't on their inventory yet even. I'll have a 200mi review of the Supernova Rise this week. It's the one shoe I'm reaching for more than the VN3, though the VN3 is the more versatile trainer. SL2 + SNR combo will be very hard to beat. I'm planning on using them together the same as you. I'll have some deep dive video on using the two shoes together towards the end of June or in July. Alot of reviews and vs to get through first this month. Stay tuned...so much content coming this month, nearly all of it review content. 🤙🏻
Love these. I had them from 1, but these are much better. So, I love the old-school approach as I'm 60 with 40 years of running. This shoe reminds me of the shoes I ran in back in the day with better foam. Yes, it rolls more, but it is still a fantastic daily trainer with no plate. Puma is killing it! Thanks for the review.
The VN3s are my first Puma shoe ever… so no idea if they are the same as the 1s…. I will say you can’t go wrong with the VN3, especially at the prices you can find them at now.
@@SagasuRunning Thank you! Sorry was replying to David's comment that he's had them from 1, was hoping he means version 1 and could comment on the sizing. 100% getting a pair asap.
I brought my Deviate Nitro 2s here to Spain where I also have a lot of rocky trails and hills to deal with and they have likewise performed very nicely, better than I expected.
Ha, for a second there I thought this was a Run Testers' review and I was ready to hear Nick sing the praises of his favourite shoe ever.😄Sadly, the Puma Velocity Nitro has never been available here, but the Rise is and the other two probably will too before year's end. Let the 2024 daily trainer battle begin!
Haha...I know Nick loves these. I'm surprised I love them as much....but the Rise is the one I reach for more...much more. So much testing to do this year though. I'll get to the bottom of it!
Velocity Nitro is very underrated daily trainer. I have used V1 and V2 and it seems V3 has improved. Very decent value! PumaGrip outsole rubber lasts a long time even if there is some initial erosion of features at the beginning.
Love the review. In the last year I tried a bunch of different Puma models and was blown away. The quality and performance is really top notch. Puma is definitely the underdog and should be on everyone's radar. Would love to see your take/review on the upcoming Nitro Deviate 3
Agree. Puma doesn’t get enough attention in running. They really deserve it based on the quality and feel of their shoes. I’ll be ALL OVER the Deviate Nitro 3 when it releases. I’m also keeping and eye out for a new Liberate Nitro. I’ll definitely cover both when they release! Stay tuned. 🤙🏻
I used the Deviate Nitro 2 as my one shoe on a trip to Colorado last year and we got the Forever Run for my wife. Both performed great as road to trail shoes.
I've run in all 3 versions of the Velocity (version 1 = 650 km, version 2 = 1,200 km over two shoes with the second pair still in use, version 3 = 300 km and still in use). Each version felt very different to the others, but all had very good versatility. Version 1 was probably the softest and most flexible with an amazing step-in feel. Version 2 felt firmer yet more cushioned. The mid-sole still felt flexible (maybe slightly less than version 1) and the step-in feel was possibly the best of the three. Version 3, however, feels stiffer and firmer even after a break in period. The step-in feel is definitely not as good but it's still very comfortable. The grip on all three, of course, is unbeatable. If I had to pick a favourite, I'd probably go with version 2, but I'm really enjoying version 3 and it's serving its purpose really well. Your review seems very fair and there is clearly a lot of thought put into your videos. When version 3 first came out, I watched an initial thoughts video where the reviewers dismissed the shoe and said that it wasn't worthy of a full review. Their view was that you were better off with the Mach 6, Rebel v4 or Novablast 4 because they had more bounce and/or cushion (to be fair, they are all great shoes although the Rebel v4 doesn't work for my specific mechanics/preferences). My issue with their dismissive conclusion (which they are perfectly in the right to have) is that I mostly use the Velocity 3 for easy and recovery days so I want shoes that are not too mushy and will let me run at the pace I need to rather than tempting me to increase my speed. The Velocity 3s do this brilliantly, but they also don't feel like they are not holding back if I'm doing a progressive build, surges or strides.
I saw this reviews as well. It was frustrating. I found the VN3 to be wonderful from start to finish. The first 40k were a little hard, not bad just took some work, but once the shoe broke in it became something all together different . Versatility is the key here. Really a shoe that can go anywhere and do anything. It is really quite wonderful. The firmness of the shoe is a key feature, IMO, it adds to the all rounder feel of the shoe. Especially for faster road running and anything off of the road.
I run all winter in Atlantic Canada. It’s not the coldest part of the world, but it’s colder than most, and light snow/black ice/wet roads are a daily issue in the winter, and I live in an area where hills are omnipresent and unavoidable. While I haven’t used the PVN3 yet, my PVN2s are pretty much my go-to shoe for running when it gets sloppy or slippy here. The warm upper is also a benefit on cold days. The only shoes in my rotation that approach them as kilometre-eaters are the Saucony Axon 3s, which I feel are a woefully underrated versatile daily trainer.
I used my Deviate Nitro 2 as my do it all shoes. Lots of unpaved roads and light trails here and they work perfect. Then, on asfalt they feel amazing with that plate. I now have 1100km in them and they're still doing great although the lugs are way smaller now. Looking forward to the DN3.
At 65€ at the moment VN3 is probably the best pick for daily trainer at the moment. Love the VN2. Grip is excellent, kept me safe during ice, rain and snow this winter. Versatile and comfortable. Only downside could be narrow fit for smoe people but this model is availabel in wide version as well. Puma always has the best discount at least here in EU.
I have a pair of Puma Magnify Nitro 2 and have been very pleasantly surprised at how good they’ve been. They are very stable yet responsive and easy to wear. The Nitro foam is slightly softer than Lightstrike Pro but performs in a similar way. I’ve seen some priced at £99.00 here in the U.K. which represents real value.
I agree. TPEe Nitro foam is slightly softer than LSP and has slightly less resilience… it’s possibly a better raining foam due to that. I didn’t even get into the price, as it’s not something I talk about often on the channel… but all Pumas, especially the VN3 offer amazing value at full retail, but given all the sales on them to be found it gets even better.
Yes, the Puma foam does provide more protection than LSP, and the Magnify has more of it. As a “heavier” (90kgs) runner and because of superior grip and more traditional geometry I actually prefer the Pumas to the ASICS Superblasts, which surprises me.
I’m not surprised. The traditional geometry will help your foot build strength and more naturally. It’s a better shoe for you are 90kg. Plus the Pumas are so well built and durable.
Just picked up a pair of Magnify Nitro 2s and am looking forward to a week of running where I'll use them for every run to see how I do with them. I got them because I'm looking for a good long run shoe.
First time subscribere here. Glad to have discovered your channel. Love this in-depth review of what must be a great shoe. Enjoyed Velocity v1. Once tried v2, but the sizing was off for me. Did not repurchase a smaller size. Have not taken the opportunity to buy v3, but it's on my wish list. I gave got to try a route similar to yours when I will be visiting Taipei in two weeks. Three shoes in my current rotation: Boston 12, Takumi Sen 9, and Deviate Nitro Elite 2. The latter is probably the only shoe grippy enough to survive these trails. Now just hoping my runner's knee to have healed a bit. 😢
I’ve run on my local trials in the Boston 12 as well, which did surprisingly well, though the VN3 is much better. The DNE2 will be a bit stiff for anything trail here, everything is steep and technical. A none plated option might be a better idea. As for running along the rivers and/or central city paths… you have some great options. I’m happy to have heard the subscribe! What brings you to Taipei?
@@SagasuRunning , thanks for the shoe recommendation. I like the Boston 12 for a variety of runs, but have not taken it out on the trails. Will give it a try. First time to visit Taipei. It is for business and I will be staying in the Zhonge district. It seems I can do a run along the river. Or head out to the temples in the forest and do some run-and-sightsee. Looking forward to it.
@@peterbleeker6810 Zhonghe District is actually New Taipei City. Think of it as a spill over city that surrounds Taipei, that used to be Taipei, until Taipei got too big to administer. Regardless, depending on where you are… yes you can run on the river… but there is more trial running in the area actually. It’s actually one of the areas that has the most trails in the Taipei metro area. You’ll have a lot of options!
@SagasuRunning it may be ridiculous, but I'll watch them all! Haha On a side note, how's the 5k training going? Do you feel you will be able to hit that 18:40?
It’s going well. Unclear if I can get to 18:40… but I think sub 19:00 is doable. I’m really enjoying this type of running though. I’m going to stick with it most of the summer. I’ll have an update/TT results video in early July.
Dude great video as always and it’s exactly how I used this shoe. We have spoken a bit on this one in the past- I also have a route that mixes road and trail and this shoe worked great for me too. I also have a track that is within range of the aforementioned route but I haven’t taken the shoe on all 3 in the same run yet. Think I will do that now 😎 Besides the endless use cases for this shoe, the VN3 has also built a noticeable amount of strength for me over the 150+ miles of use so far by not doing all the work for me.
This is THE shoe for a route that has all three. I am convinced this is the best road to trial option available. Much better than any trail shoe on the road and on par with entry level or basic trial shoes on the trail. So good.
I’ve been enjoying my Puma Magnify Nitro 2s for easy/long runs and am looking forward to your comparative review of the Velocity Nitro 2 and other daily trainers to inform my next shoe purchase.
I won’t be comparing to the VN2, never ran in it. I will be comparing only to current generation trainers this year…. Lots of that content coming though.
I've been loving the Pegasus Trail 4! Best road to Trail shoe I've ever had, and beats the pants off the Pegasus 40. The react in the Trail 4 is so much better than the react in the peg 40. The shoe has a nice bit of stability built-in because you kind of sit down in the midsole and it wraps your foot. Incredible shoe
The Peg Trail is fine. I’ve had every version, except the new PT5. The issue is that trail outsoles on the road are not fun to run in and the Peg outsole on the trail doesn’t match a top tier trial outsole at all. It’s just too much compromise overall. I do like them as light hikers though. The VN3 is MUCH better at road running and oddly better at trail grip too… better rock protection as well. I did not expect it to do so well.
très bonnes chaussures, effectivement il lui faut un rodage de 50 km , la chaussure change mais dans le bon sens ! chaussures hyper polyvalente à un prix contenu. bonne vidéo continuer !
No doubt. I ran in velocity nitro original n ran 1200km n style using daily day to day shoes, nitro2 was not upt mark for me. Now thinking to purchase v3. I just purchase sl2
Also chose my version 2 for a 10k trail race/run knowing there would not be much mud. Had confidence in the shoe as I've run 500+ kms with it, so have a good idea of the capabilities, but was still somewhat surprised how the shoe coped, I'll certainly consider version 3 when looking for a new everyday shoe.
Great reviews always. Do you run in the VN2? I'd be interested to see how it compares, as you can pick up the VN2 for a really cheap price now, which makes it extremely tempting!
I never ran on the VN2 and only really focus on current generation shoe. I don’t have an interest in going back and trying the old model. There are some great reviews out there on it though… and a few comparing the VN2 to the VN3 (as I remember the VN3 won most of them for being “more” of what was liked about the VN2).
Tried these on and two things stood out. The forefoot platform is super narrow and I felt like my foot was falling off the side of the shoe. Secondly, and I know you've mentioned they break in, but the bottom EVA layer just felt unbelievably stiff/hard. I wonder if I would have liked this shoe if Puma's EVA was similar to Lightstrike 2.0.... I was able to find a cheap pair of Adizero SLs (first version) which I've really warmed to after 50km or so. The midsole is starting to flex and soften a little and I find they really come alive at faster paces. Similar to the VN3, I think a lot of people (RUclips reviewers) dismiss these types of shoes (EVA based) because they can feel pretty average initially. I'll definitely be ordering the SL2!
Pumas are narrow, not overly so, but similar to older Adidas lasts. The Puma EVA actually reminds more of old Lightstrike EVA, the 2.0 is much more airy. The OG SL definitely has similar vibes to the VN3, though it is a better option for wider feet. The VN3 has a better outsole and feel over all (to my feet). I did enjoy the SL though. I’m definitely looking forward to the SL2…. I’ll be on them as soon as I can get a pair!
Saucony endorphin 4 is shoe of the year for its versatility from easy to interval running and also soon to be launched Asics Magic speed 4 will be a huge competitor for endorphin speed 4.
The ES4 is good but it is far from shoe of the year territory. I’d never use it for intervals or any type of fast running. PWRRUN PB is good for cruising… and that’s about it. As for the Magic Speed 4. I enjoyed the MS3, quite a bit… but the MS4 is a HARD pass from me. Too much foam and Asics turned the shoe from possibly the best tempo trainer to just another generic super trainer… it’s a shame really.
Been using the Velocity Nitro since the v1 and the lass does feel longer than any other brands. Good to know your thoughts on the v3! (especially its trail performance). I myself live in Indonesia, with similar trail characteristics as in Taiwan (I guess?). Can't wait to try these.
I can report they handle the rocky, sub-tropical, volcanic and clay mud we have here on trails in Taiwan. Also, the long last disappeared for me, as I said in the video. Long shoes are definitely something I feel when trail running and the VN3 gave me no problems at all.
I have 90km ran with my pair of the Velocity Nitro 3, and I'm loving them ! Very versatile shoes indeed and works amazingly for speedy runs, and only my Asics Magic Speed 3 is faster for my 5km/10km runs.
I tried Puma Velocity 2 in a store and walked around. I found that it was great as a walking shoe which I can’t say about New Balance 1080 v13 which felt unstable and wobbly from side to side.
The 1080v13 is a wet noodle, horrible for walking and even worst than running. The VN3 is a great all rounder as a casual shoe too. It really can do it all.
@@SagasuRunning I was curious about New Balance shoes because they constantly pop up in recommendations as one of the best daily running shoes. I was disappointed in 1080 v13, 880 v14 felt bland to me. There are new 860 which seem to be more interesting but I already lost interest in New Balance’s line up.
I’ve talked about this in my monthly update videos but I have NB a shot in 2024 as it looked like they had some great models. I’ve been very disappointed by every NB model I’ve tried to the point where I won’t touch another until next year…. Even then it depends on if they change their design direction…. They Nair don’t work for me AT ALL!
My only (slight) disagreement is that I felt like the Velocity was near-perfect right out of the box and only took about 5 miles (not 50) to feel completely broken in. But I absolutely agree that it's a shoe that does well on every type of surface and for every type of run.
Interesting. I vividly remember hitting 40k in these and they changed drastically on the run. I talked about it in my initial impressions video. Regardless, if they feel great out of the box (which they did to me too, just a bit stiff and up on a platform of foam) then even better! You really can’t go wrong with this shoe.
Thanks for doing these videos. My Novablast is bottoming out. I needed a couple of really good daily trainers and based on your videos I went for Velocity Nitro 3 and the SL2. Since I have credit with a shoe store I might get a pair of Hoka Mach 6 for intervals and hill repeats just for fun. Will you be reviewing them as well. One pair of shoes I wish you would review are Puma Deviate Nitro 3 and then comparing them to Superblast 2 and Speed 4. I know I am asking a lot.
I have multiple videos about the Mach 6 on the channel, including an update as to why they don't work for me. Also, I just picked up a pair of Puma Deviate Nitros 3s, so expect content soon. Lastly, planning on the Superblast 2 as well, as soon as I can get a pair....will be doing "vs" videos comaring the DN3, SB2, ES4...in all the combos. I think I got all of your requests....haha.
@@SagasuRunning what a coincidence. DN3 Vs Superblast 2 wow lol. I hope I get to see you your Vs videos before those shoes are sold out. I’m on the fence about Mach 6 tbh. If it’s just another daily trainer that’s just a bit snappy it’ll be useless to get it.
Sorry, never ran in the 2. The VN3 is my first Puma shoe… ever. Running in them here in hot and humid Taipei… I don’t find the upper too heavy at all. There are definitely lighter uppers but it does just fine with hot/humid running.
Puma is one of the few brands I dont own a pair, because they were "gone" such a long time. I think they price politics is also one the biggest pro's. I need a lot of cushion in the midfoot/forfoot and a low drop, otherwise my big toe joint goes crazy after 5km. It has not be soft, just cushioned. Puma seems to be a canditat for that. Especially since I have so many shoes for certain use cases but basically no workhorse for bad days ...lol.
Wow… a brand you don’t own! Didn’t expect that. The Puma foam stack is not soft, it is well cushioned though. I have hallux limitus and my big toe joint is always something I need to work on keeping flexibility in… the Pumas give it no issue at all.
@@SagasuRunning Puma, Anta and Reebok to be fair. Brands I have on my watchlist a while, but didnt manage to get some. Just not sure if the Velocity, Deviate or the Magnify 🤔
I’ve been looking forward to this video! I picked up a pair after shortly chatting with you and since April 20th I’ve already put 170 miles on them. I have a pretty extensive rotation but they’re the only shoe I’ve been reaching for lately. With my shoes I like to let the miles do the talking. Right now it’s the shoe of the year for me.
Awesome to hear…. I’m glad you are enjoying them. This is currently almost shoe of the year for me… there is one I am reaching for more for road running…. But the VN3 is the more versatile pick.
Can’t wait for all of the versus daily trainer videos. I just bought the SL2 (Lucid Lemon/Black colorway) and the Supernova Rise (same colorway as yours) yesterday. They should arrive later this week and can’t wait to test each shoe. I plan to use the SL2 as my go-to daily trainer and the Rise as my non-plated long run and recovery effort shoe. What an exciting time for the daily trainer market now after all the hype on the super shoes earlier in the year. Thank you for the continued high quality content.
I'm not sure when the SL 2 will be here in Taiwan. I went to the flagship Adidas store here in Taipei yesterday and they had no idea. The SL2 isn't on their inventory yet even.
I'll have a 200mi review of the Supernova Rise this week. It's the one shoe I'm reaching for more than the VN3, though the VN3 is the more versatile trainer.
SL2 + SNR combo will be very hard to beat. I'm planning on using them together the same as you. I'll have some deep dive video on using the two shoes together towards the end of June or in July. Alot of reviews and vs to get through first this month.
Stay tuned...so much content coming this month, nearly all of it review content. 🤙🏻
Love these. I had them from 1, but these are much better. So, I love the old-school approach as I'm 60 with 40 years of running. This shoe reminds me of the shoes I ran in back in the day with better foam. Yes, it rolls more, but it is still a fantastic daily trainer with no plate. Puma is killing it! Thanks for the review.
I don't quite go that far back with running, but yes, these are modern classics at this point. Best of the old and new combined. So impressively good.
Is it the same sizing as Velocity Nitro 1? Love my Nitro 1's but ready to make the jump to 3's.
The VN3s are my first Puma shoe ever… so no idea if they are the same as the 1s…. I will say you can’t go wrong with the VN3, especially at the prices you can find them at now.
@@SagasuRunning Thank you! Sorry was replying to David's comment that he's had them from 1, was hoping he means version 1 and could comment on the sizing. 100% getting a pair asap.
@@danielmckenzie397Hi, sizing is the same for me from version 1 to 3.
I brought my Deviate Nitro 2s here to Spain where I also have a lot of rocky trails and hills to deal with and they have likewise performed very nicely, better than I expected.
Best road to trail....or just vacation trial shoe available.
Ha, for a second there I thought this was a Run Testers' review and I was ready to hear Nick sing the praises of his favourite shoe ever.😄Sadly, the Puma Velocity Nitro has never been available here, but the Rise is and the other two probably will too before year's end. Let the 2024 daily trainer battle begin!
Haha...I know Nick loves these. I'm surprised I love them as much....but the Rise is the one I reach for more...much more. So much testing to do this year though. I'll get to the bottom of it!
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@@tadejdanev5030 Uruguay
Velocity Nitro is very underrated daily trainer. I have used V1 and V2 and it seems V3 has improved. Very decent value! PumaGrip outsole rubber lasts a long time even if there is some initial erosion of features at the beginning.
Totally agree on the VN3 being underrated. So much value here.
I only did 20km in mine before I got an ankle injury. Can't wait for it to clear up as they're really nice to run in.
Heal up...these are waiting for you and they are very good!
Love the review. In the last year I tried a bunch of different Puma models and was blown away. The quality and performance is really top notch. Puma is definitely the underdog and should be on everyone's radar.
Would love to see your take/review on the upcoming Nitro Deviate 3
Agree. Puma doesn’t get enough attention in running. They really deserve it based on the quality and feel of their shoes.
I’ll be ALL OVER the Deviate Nitro 3 when it releases. I’m also keeping and eye out for a new Liberate Nitro. I’ll definitely cover both when they release! Stay tuned. 🤙🏻
I used the Deviate Nitro 2 as my one shoe on a trip to Colorado last year and we got the Forever Run for my wife. Both performed great as road to trail shoes.
Nice. Tons of versatile across the Puma line.
I've run in all 3 versions of the Velocity (version 1 = 650 km, version 2 = 1,200 km over two shoes with the second pair still in use, version 3 = 300 km and still in use). Each version felt very different to the others, but all had very good versatility. Version 1 was probably the softest and most flexible with an amazing step-in feel. Version 2 felt firmer yet more cushioned. The mid-sole still felt flexible (maybe slightly less than version 1) and the step-in feel was possibly the best of the three. Version 3, however, feels stiffer and firmer even after a break in period. The step-in feel is definitely not as good but it's still very comfortable. The grip on all three, of course, is unbeatable. If I had to pick a favourite, I'd probably go with version 2, but I'm really enjoying version 3 and it's serving its purpose really well.
Your review seems very fair and there is clearly a lot of thought put into your videos. When version 3 first came out, I watched an initial thoughts video where the reviewers dismissed the shoe and said that it wasn't worthy of a full review. Their view was that you were better off with the Mach 6, Rebel v4 or Novablast 4 because they had more bounce and/or cushion (to be fair, they are all great shoes although the Rebel v4 doesn't work for my specific mechanics/preferences). My issue with their dismissive conclusion (which they are perfectly in the right to have) is that I mostly use the Velocity 3 for easy and recovery days so I want shoes that are not too mushy and will let me run at the pace I need to rather than tempting me to increase my speed. The Velocity 3s do this brilliantly, but they also don't feel like they are not holding back if I'm doing a progressive build, surges or strides.
I saw this reviews as well. It was frustrating. I found the VN3 to be wonderful from start to finish. The first 40k were a little hard, not bad just took some work, but once the shoe broke in it became something all together different . Versatility is the key here. Really a shoe that can go anywhere and do anything. It is really quite wonderful.
The firmness of the shoe is a key feature, IMO, it adds to the all rounder feel of the shoe. Especially for faster road running and anything off of the road.
I run all winter in Atlantic Canada. It’s not the coldest part of the world, but it’s colder than most, and light snow/black ice/wet roads are a daily issue in the winter, and I live in an area where hills are omnipresent and unavoidable. While I haven’t used the PVN3 yet, my PVN2s are pretty much my go-to shoe for running when it gets sloppy or slippy here. The warm upper is also a benefit on cold days.
The only shoes in my rotation that approach them as kilometre-eaters are the Saucony Axon 3s, which I feel are a woefully underrated versatile daily trainer.
I grew up in mountains of central upstate NY. I know what real winter is like. I can imagine how well the VN3 would do for that.
I used my Deviate Nitro 2 as my do it all shoes. Lots of unpaved roads and light trails here and they work perfect. Then, on asfalt they feel amazing with that plate. I now have 1100km in them and they're still doing great although the lugs are way smaller now. Looking forward to the DN3.
I too am looking forward to the DN3...I'll definitely be covering it once I can get a pair.
At 65€ at the moment VN3 is probably the best pick for daily trainer at the moment. Love the VN2. Grip is excellent, kept me safe during ice, rain and snow this winter. Versatile and comfortable. Only downside could be narrow fit for smoe people but this model is availabel in wide version as well. Puma always has the best discount at least here in EU.
Yup...tons of value here at MRSP...but always deals to be found on them too.
I have a pair of Puma Magnify Nitro 2 and have been very pleasantly surprised at how good they’ve been. They are very stable yet responsive and easy to wear. The Nitro foam is slightly softer than Lightstrike Pro but performs in a similar way. I’ve seen some priced at £99.00 here in the U.K. which represents real value.
I agree. TPEe Nitro foam is slightly softer than LSP and has slightly less resilience… it’s possibly a better raining foam due to that.
I didn’t even get into the price, as it’s not something I talk about often on the channel… but all Pumas, especially the VN3 offer amazing value at full retail, but given all the sales on them to be found it gets even better.
Yes, the Puma foam does provide more protection than LSP, and the Magnify has more of it. As a “heavier” (90kgs) runner and because of superior grip and more traditional geometry I actually prefer the Pumas to the ASICS Superblasts, which surprises me.
I’m not surprised. The traditional geometry will help your foot build strength and more naturally. It’s a better shoe for you are 90kg. Plus the Pumas are so well built and durable.
Agreed. Thank you for your replies.
Just picked up a pair of Magnify Nitro 2s and am looking forward to a week of running where I'll use them for every run to see how I do with them. I got them because I'm looking for a good long run shoe.
Love these Pumas ❤
So good! So very good. 🤙🏻
First time subscribere here. Glad to have discovered your channel. Love this in-depth review of what must be a great shoe. Enjoyed Velocity v1. Once tried v2, but the sizing was off for me. Did not repurchase a smaller size. Have not taken the opportunity to buy v3, but it's on my wish list. I gave got to try a route similar to yours when I will be visiting Taipei in two weeks. Three shoes in my current rotation: Boston 12, Takumi Sen 9, and Deviate Nitro Elite 2. The latter is probably the only shoe grippy enough to survive these trails. Now just hoping my runner's knee to have healed a bit. 😢
I’ve run on my local trials in the Boston 12 as well, which did surprisingly well, though the VN3 is much better. The DNE2 will be a bit stiff for anything trail here, everything is steep and technical. A none plated option might be a better idea. As for running along the rivers and/or central city paths… you have some great options.
I’m happy to have heard the subscribe!
What brings you to Taipei?
@@SagasuRunning , thanks for the shoe recommendation. I like the Boston 12 for a variety of runs, but have not taken it out on the trails. Will give it a try. First time to visit Taipei. It is for business and I will be staying in the Zhonge district. It seems I can do a run along the river. Or head out to the temples in the forest and do some run-and-sightsee. Looking forward to it.
@@peterbleeker6810 Zhonghe District is actually New Taipei City. Think of it as a spill over city that surrounds Taipei, that used to be Taipei, until Taipei got too big to administer. Regardless, depending on where you are… yes you can run on the river… but there is more trial running in the area actually. It’s actually one of the areas that has the most trails in the Taipei metro area. You’ll have a lot of options!
Can't wait to see the comparison videos.
There will be so many… I planned it all out earlier today…. It’s a bit ridiculous at the moment. I may need to edit the plan some.
@SagasuRunning it may be ridiculous, but I'll watch them all! Haha
On a side note, how's the 5k training going? Do you feel you will be able to hit that 18:40?
It’s going well. Unclear if I can get to 18:40… but I think sub 19:00 is doable. I’m really enjoying this type of running though. I’m going to stick with it most of the summer. I’ll have an update/TT results video in early July.
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Thank you. Thank you. 🙏🏻
Just got those week ago. Loving them
Enjoy them. They are wonderful! 🤙🏻
Dude great video as always and it’s exactly how I used this shoe. We have spoken a bit on this one in the past- I also have a route that mixes road and trail and this shoe worked great for me too.
I also have a track that is within range of the aforementioned route but I haven’t taken the shoe on all 3 in the same run yet. Think I will do that now 😎
Besides the endless use cases for this shoe, the VN3 has also built a noticeable amount of strength for me over the 150+ miles of use so far by not doing all the work for me.
This is THE shoe for a route that has all three. I am convinced this is the best road to trial option available. Much better than any trail shoe on the road and on par with entry level or basic trial shoes on the trail. So good.
@@SagasuRunning Exactly. I got the Novablast 3 TR last year and the VN3 blows that thing out of the water.
Not surprised at all. The VN3 has better foam and better grip…
I’ve been enjoying my Puma Magnify Nitro 2s for easy/long runs and am looking forward to your comparative review of the Velocity Nitro 2 and other daily trainers to inform my next shoe purchase.
I won’t be comparing to the VN2, never ran in it. I will be comparing only to current generation trainers this year…. Lots of that content coming though.
@@SagasuRunning 👍
I've been loving the Pegasus Trail 4! Best road to Trail shoe I've ever had, and beats the pants off the Pegasus 40. The react in the Trail 4 is so much better than the react in the peg 40. The shoe has a nice bit of stability built-in because you kind of sit down in the midsole and it wraps your foot. Incredible shoe
The Peg Trail is fine. I’ve had every version, except the new PT5. The issue is that trail outsoles on the road are not fun to run in and the Peg outsole on the trail doesn’t match a top tier trial outsole at all. It’s just too much compromise overall. I do like them as light hikers though.
The VN3 is MUCH better at road running and oddly better at trail grip too… better rock protection as well. I did not expect it to do so well.
@@SagasuRunning Wow! I may have to give it a try.
très bonnes chaussures, effectivement il lui faut un rodage de 50 km , la chaussure change mais dans le bon sens ! chaussures hyper polyvalente à un prix contenu. bonne vidéo continuer !
Mettez-vous d'accord sur la période de rodage. Cela en vaut la peine !
No doubt. I ran in velocity nitro original n ran 1200km n style using daily day to day shoes, nitro2 was not upt mark for me. Now thinking to purchase v3. I just purchase sl2
The SL2 has more performance but the VN3 is a true all rounder.
Also chose my version 2 for a 10k trail race/run knowing there would not be much mud. Had confidence in the shoe as I've run 500+ kms with it, so have a good idea of the capabilities, but was still somewhat surprised how the shoe coped, I'll certainly consider version 3 when looking for a new everyday shoe.
It really is great on trails. That was a huge surprise for me.
Great reviews always. Do you run in the VN2? I'd be interested to see how it compares, as you can pick up the VN2 for a really cheap price now, which makes it extremely tempting!
I never ran on the VN2 and only really focus on current generation shoe. I don’t have an interest in going back and trying the old model. There are some great reviews out there on it though… and a few comparing the VN2 to the VN3 (as I remember the VN3 won most of them for being “more” of what was liked about the VN2).
Don't hold back, Chris. Tell us how you really feel about the VN3. 😂
Hahaha. Was I not clear? 😂
@@SagasuRunning Very 😀
Very good shoes with very good durability
💯… I’d add very good value in there too.
Tried these on and two things stood out. The forefoot platform is super narrow and I felt like my foot was falling off the side of the shoe. Secondly, and I know you've mentioned they break in, but the bottom EVA layer just felt unbelievably stiff/hard. I wonder if I would have liked this shoe if Puma's EVA was similar to Lightstrike 2.0.... I was able to find a cheap pair of Adizero SLs (first version) which I've really warmed to after 50km or so. The midsole is starting to flex and soften a little and I find they really come alive at faster paces. Similar to the VN3, I think a lot of people (RUclips reviewers) dismiss these types of shoes (EVA based) because they can feel pretty average initially. I'll definitely be ordering the SL2!
Pumas are narrow, not overly so, but similar to older Adidas lasts. The Puma EVA actually reminds more of old Lightstrike EVA, the 2.0 is much more airy.
The OG SL definitely has similar vibes to the VN3, though it is a better option for wider feet. The VN3 has a better outsole and feel over all (to my feet). I did enjoy the SL though.
I’m definitely looking forward to the SL2…. I’ll be on them as soon as I can get a pair!
@@SagasuRunning Thanks for the reply! Really enjoying the channel. Great work.
Saucony endorphin 4 is shoe of the year for its versatility from easy to interval running and also soon to be launched Asics Magic speed 4 will be a huge competitor for endorphin speed 4.
The ES4 is good but it is far from shoe of the year territory. I’d never use it for intervals or any type of fast running. PWRRUN PB is good for cruising… and that’s about it.
As for the Magic Speed 4. I enjoyed the MS3, quite a bit… but the MS4 is a HARD pass from me. Too much foam and Asics turned the shoe from possibly the best tempo trainer to just another generic super trainer… it’s a shame really.
Been using the Velocity Nitro since the v1 and the lass does feel longer than any other brands. Good to know your thoughts on the v3! (especially its trail performance). I myself live in Indonesia, with similar trail characteristics as in Taiwan (I guess?). Can't wait to try these.
I can report they handle the rocky, sub-tropical, volcanic and clay mud we have here on trails in Taiwan. Also, the long last disappeared for me, as I said in the video. Long shoes are definitely something I feel when trail running and the VN3 gave me no problems at all.
I have 90km ran with my pair of the Velocity Nitro 3, and I'm loving them !
Very versatile shoes indeed and works amazingly for speedy runs, and only my Asics Magic Speed 3 is faster for my 5km/10km runs.
The MS3 was a fast tempo shoe for shoe… I really enjoyed that one last year.
1st time today with DEVIATE NITRO 2, top...already made PB in 1km lol.
I’m really looking forward to the Deviate Nitro 3! I’ll be all over that as soon as it is out. 🤙🏻
I tried Puma Velocity 2 in a store and walked around. I found that it was great as a walking shoe which I can’t say about New Balance 1080 v13 which felt unstable and wobbly from side to side.
The 1080v13 is a wet noodle, horrible for walking and even worst than running. The VN3 is a great all rounder as a casual shoe too. It really can do it all.
@@SagasuRunning I was curious about New Balance shoes because they constantly pop up in recommendations as one of the best daily running shoes. I was disappointed in 1080 v13, 880 v14 felt bland to me. There are new 860 which seem to be more interesting but I already lost interest in New Balance’s line up.
I’ve talked about this in my monthly update videos but I have NB a shot in 2024 as it looked like they had some great models. I’ve been very disappointed by every NB model I’ve tried to the point where I won’t touch another until next year…. Even then it depends on if they change their design direction…. They Nair don’t work for me AT ALL!
My only (slight) disagreement is that I felt like the Velocity was near-perfect right out of the box and only took about 5 miles (not 50) to feel completely broken in. But I absolutely agree that it's a shoe that does well on every type of surface and for every type of run.
Interesting. I vividly remember hitting 40k in these and they changed drastically on the run. I talked about it in my initial impressions video. Regardless, if they feel great out of the box (which they did to me too, just a bit stiff and up on a platform of foam) then even better! You really can’t go wrong with this shoe.
great thumbnail
Not quite what I had imagined… but it was the best I could do with the Broll I shot. Getting the angles is challenging…
im sure u will figure, none the less very clean and eye cathing at least to me
@@hiepjake 🙏🏻
I tried this VN3 in the store and found the whole shoe is longer than I expected.
That definitely changes as it molds to your foot. I was worried about that initially… but 100miles in and it’s a non issue.
@@gunnersgogogo4882 Good luck!
Thanks for doing these videos. My Novablast is bottoming out. I needed a couple of really good daily trainers and based on your videos I went for Velocity Nitro 3 and the SL2. Since I have credit with a shoe store I might get a pair of Hoka Mach 6 for intervals and hill repeats just for fun. Will you be reviewing them as well. One pair of shoes I wish you would review are Puma Deviate Nitro 3 and then comparing them to Superblast 2 and Speed 4. I know I am asking a lot.
I have multiple videos about the Mach 6 on the channel, including an update as to why they don't work for me. Also, I just picked up a pair of Puma Deviate Nitros 3s, so expect content soon. Lastly, planning on the Superblast 2 as well, as soon as I can get a pair....will be doing "vs" videos comaring the DN3, SB2, ES4...in all the combos.
I think I got all of your requests....haha.
@@SagasuRunning what a coincidence. DN3 Vs Superblast 2 wow lol. I hope I get to see you your Vs videos before those shoes are sold out. I’m on the fence about Mach 6 tbh. If it’s just another daily trainer that’s just a bit snappy it’ll be useless to get it.
The SL2 is a MUCH better performance trainer over the Mach 6…. Better upper, better foams and better geometry.
How are these compared to the 2s? For me they were too warm and held moisture. The toe box in the 2s were narrow too
Sorry, never ran in the 2. The VN3 is my first Puma shoe… ever. Running in them here in hot and humid Taipei… I don’t find the upper too heavy at all. There are definitely lighter uppers but it does just fine with hot/humid running.
What are your thoughts about the the deviate nitro 2
I've never run in it. I can't wait to get a pair of Deviate Nitro 3s though and put them through the paces. Stay tuned. 🤙🏻
Puma is one of the few brands I dont own a pair, because they were "gone" such a long time. I think they price politics is also one the biggest pro's.
I need a lot of cushion in the midfoot/forfoot and a low drop, otherwise my big toe joint goes crazy after 5km. It has not be soft, just cushioned. Puma seems to be a canditat for that. Especially since I have so many shoes for certain use cases but basically no workhorse for bad days ...lol.
Wow… a brand you don’t own! Didn’t expect that. The Puma foam stack is not soft, it is well cushioned though. I have hallux limitus and my big toe joint is always something I need to work on keeping flexibility in… the Pumas give it no issue at all.
@@SagasuRunning Puma, Anta and Reebok to be fair. Brands I have on my watchlist a while, but didnt manage to get some.
Just not sure if the Velocity, Deviate or the Magnify 🤔
You can see my vote for which Puma to start with.