Sorry I missed your live session, company arrived from out of town. I enjoyed watching the recorded. Thank you for your view on why to add as much media as I felt comfortable in doing so. I limited to the most beneficial simply because I’m lazy, but I will consider adding all in case someone else would find it interesting. 😊 3:53
I placed a photo that I inherited of my great grandparents on Ancestry. A distant cousin who I do not know (not direct descendant) posted it on Find a Grave with a copyright. I've never received a cease & desist about it but I did ask an attorney about it. There's some number of years that applies and, as my great grandfather passed in the 1950s, the attorney said copyright is done (as the photographer is almost certainly deceased). And if the cousin pursued it, to force the issue - which is usually when people stop.
I have uploaded images of newspaper clippings with relatives and ancestors mentioned. I have verified that they are either out of copyright or permitted to use (non commercial use). I always put the source and applicable permissions and conditions of use with these images. A lot of these clippings have some errors, and it is important to note that, but on the other hand they add to the overall story. For instance the story of a great uncle who drowned when his traction engine fell into the river, the story of a relative who allegedly invented a device that could create a specially made record that could then be played on a television with his invented machine interface. I like that these add context to the dates and events in their timeline, and they can be useful to verify places of residence, employment, migration and so many other things. (Of course taking into account that there is varying accuracy and sometimes mis-reporting, bias)
Oh. You made Devon's day. She loves the stories discovered about our ancestors in newspapers. And yes, we must be critical readers and evaluate the accuracy of the pieces. Devon has a clipping that says her great-grandfather was an insurance sales man. Everything in the article was correct except the job. Apparently the writer confused her relative with another man in the town with the same name was was an insurance agent. So, yes, we should be careful, but newspapers are awesome!
It may have been mentioned before, but Ancestry private, *unsearchable* trees are that. At least until they change things. But not images in the gallery.... Those are searchable, period. When doing down and dirty trees, get the images OUT. You will get queries on those. I have, often. AND SO do not add photos or living people, whether the tree is public or private. Edpecially grandkids.... They Will Be Accessible.
I'm 63. I agree halfway. 90's is my Desert Island era for music. 80's is up there but I was into Alternative (New Wave back in the day) not so much into Metal. In Greece in the military I collected as much vinyl as I could - Simple Minds, Joy Division, New Order, Human League, etc. I've always loved R&B from the older to the newer stuff. Also into jazz and some classical. I would have to say that Bacharach, Jimmy Webb, Motown and Simon and Garfunkel were a lot of the "soundtrack" of my childhood in the 1960s and I'm hopelessly nostalgic for the past. I have no identity with current music at all. The bottom of the Top 40 songs from 1963 to 1993 are better than anything in the Top 10 of 2023. But we have had lock downs, etc but the clubs are open again and the potential breeding ground for good music is possible. Starting this month I myself will be in a collaboration with a musician friend. His music and my lyrics. I'm excited about what we might create.
Re: unable to find poorly named gallery items: you can add media to any of the facts in Ancestry - Devon showed how to do that some years ago. Ancestry makes it very easy. For instance you can link the obit to the death fact, and the image of the stone to the burial fact. Then visitors to your tree don't need to trawl though a big gallery - it pops right up.
The AI tools on the genealogy sites can be useful, such as the date prediction on myHeritage. It can give a rough idea of the decade, but the range is pretty wide. Almost all of the photos that I added to myHeritage I knew the date already and the predicted date on the site was about 10 to 20 years out in each case. The prediction works better when there is a match to a person in your tree (where their dates already are on the tree), either through the AI tool recognising the face or you tagging the person. Having a place added can help too perhaps. But how good location will work for the AI to identify fashion age I am unsure. Places like New Zealand can be behind trend, so dates can be off if the tool is basing it on US fashions and the location is a different country.
I was involved in theater in the military in the 1980s and in civilian life in the 1990s. Some of those productions were filmed and I still have some of them on VHS. I do think that the cinematographers of the latter probably hold the copyrights because I think I had to pay something to get my copies from them. But one of the videos is from our Air Force Choir production of "Godspell" at the Officers Club, Presidio of Monterey, California in 1982/83. I don't think that one was copyrighted. It was done "in house" so to speak. I played bass guitar in the pit orchestra. ;-)
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I don't know. The base no longer exists or it is significantly smaller so I think that building is no longer on government property. I know a guy who has worked there in recent years and he said something about it not being at all the same as it was when I was there in 1982/83.
Memory is getting bad! lol How I could forget the 70s. I was a huge Led Zep fan. Also Rush, Aerosmith, Head East, etc. A buddy introduced me to Genesis and that got me into prog as well -- King Crimson, Yes, Roxy Music, U.K. and from U.K. into fusion (or what we called "jazz rock") like Mahavishnu, Jean-Luc Ponty, etc. and THAT led me to older jazz at the same time (late 1970s) getting into early punk and New Wave: Wire, Sex Pistols, Clash, XTC, etc.
Power ballad - When I was in college, Sister Christian by Night Ranger was huge. Slash absolutely rules but, as a daughter of Texas, no one is better than Stevie Ray Vaughan. Duran Duran's Simon LeBon pretty much sings with an English (or not American) accent. Long live the Pre-Show!
Power ballad: Pour Some Sugar on Me. As far as Stevie Ray, no one can compare. Pre-show topic (which is awesome): Fav movie or some place you might like to travel to. By the way, did you ever go to the Dixie Chicken?
In reference to sharing media. Other than (of course) copyrighted material such as photos taken in studios, pages from published books, etc. As long as the process in not too complicated I will share anything and everything my time, energy and concentration permitting. I have attached documents in Italian to my Ancestry and other online Public Family Trees with my transcription and English translation. The only thing about others' attached media that I don't like is when they attach copies of documents that are blurred or otherwise not legible to read. I get ready to read something that is new and exciting and that is really kind of a letdown. However I have gotten very experienced with finding documents myself so it is not a total lost cause. If I know the location of the administration of the document in question and the date that is usually enough to find the same microfilm. I found a baptism for an ancestor of one of my Italian cousins whom I met in person last month in Illinois. My great great grandfather married twice. Our family is descended from his first marriage and my cousin's family are descended from his second wife and I found her civil birth record and her church baptism record. The birth record was interesting because it stated at the time she was born in Italy, her father was not present because he was in Switzerland -- in 1874. Possibly working there.
I like that you post the translation of those documents. So helpful! I'm helping a patron do the very same thing! Blurry images are awful. But, they can point you in a direction (maybe?)
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Yes I've learned how to use the system to find what I want -- so to speak ;-) Such as in the Latin records sometimes the heading has the name of the parish (in Latin of course) but sometimes it has no heading. But most of the parishes are arranged alphabetically and if they don't have a heading they might have the signature of the clerk (usually a priest) and I make notes of those and use that to figure out if it is the parish I need - plus learning ALL of the surnames in the parish -- not just the ones that are my relatives. So I've learned how to find what I want as long as I'm in the right parish and find the right year and then the date of the record in question (because within a year the records are mostly arranged chronologically.
Sorry I missed your live session, company arrived from out of town. I enjoyed watching the recorded. Thank you for your view on why to add as much media as I felt comfortable in doing so. I limited to the most beneficial simply because I’m lazy, but I will consider adding all in case someone else would find it interesting. 😊 3:53
Remember, we did have some caveats about all media.
I placed a photo that I inherited of my great grandparents on Ancestry. A distant cousin who I do not know (not direct descendant) posted it on Find a Grave with a copyright. I've never received a cease & desist about it but I did ask an attorney about it. There's some number of years that applies and, as my great grandfather passed in the 1950s, the attorney said copyright is done (as the photographer is almost certainly deceased). And if the cousin pursued it, to force the issue - which is usually when people stop.
Thanks for sharing your experience with folks taking a photo and putting copyright on it. It's so frustrating for many when this happens.
I have uploaded images of newspaper clippings with relatives and ancestors mentioned. I have verified that they are either out of copyright or permitted to use (non commercial use). I always put the source and applicable permissions and conditions of use with these images. A lot of these clippings have some errors, and it is important to note that, but on the other hand they add to the overall story. For instance the story of a great uncle who drowned when his traction engine fell into the river, the story of a relative who allegedly invented a device that could create a specially made record that could then be played on a television with his invented machine interface. I like that these add context to the dates and events in their timeline, and they can be useful to verify places of residence, employment, migration and so many other things. (Of course taking into account that there is varying accuracy and sometimes mis-reporting, bias)
Oh. You made Devon's day. She loves the stories discovered about our ancestors in newspapers. And yes, we must be critical readers and evaluate the accuracy of the pieces. Devon has a clipping that says her great-grandfather was an insurance sales man. Everything in the article was correct except the job. Apparently the writer confused her relative with another man in the town with the same name was was an insurance agent. So, yes, we should be careful, but newspapers are awesome!
It may have been mentioned before, but Ancestry private, *unsearchable* trees are that. At least until they change things.
But not images in the gallery.... Those are searchable, period.
When doing down and dirty trees, get the images OUT. You will get queries on those. I have, often.
AND SO do not add photos or living people, whether the tree is public or private.
Edpecially grandkids.... They Will Be Accessible.
Thanks so much for sharing this feedback. Photo sharing becomes so difficult on genealogy programs unless we're careful.
I'm 63. I agree halfway. 90's is my Desert Island era for music. 80's is up there but I was into Alternative (New Wave back in the day) not so much into Metal. In Greece in the military I collected as much vinyl as I could - Simple Minds, Joy Division, New Order, Human League, etc. I've always loved R&B from the older to the newer stuff. Also into jazz and some classical. I would have to say that Bacharach, Jimmy Webb, Motown and Simon and Garfunkel were a lot of the "soundtrack" of my childhood in the 1960s and I'm hopelessly nostalgic for the past. I have no identity with current music at all. The bottom of the Top 40 songs from 1963 to 1993 are better than anything in the Top 10 of 2023. But we have had lock downs, etc but the clubs are open again and the potential breeding ground for good music is possible. Starting this month I myself will be in a collaboration with a musician friend. His music and my lyrics. I'm excited about what we might create.
Have fun with the music collaboration. That sounds fun.
Re: unable to find poorly named gallery items: you can add media to any of the facts in Ancestry - Devon showed how to do that some years ago. Ancestry makes it very easy. For instance you can link the obit to the death fact, and the image of the stone to the burial fact. Then visitors to your tree don't need to trawl though a big gallery - it pops right up.
Thanks Valorie. Here's the video you mentioned.
DO THIS To Link Photos to Events in Your Ancestry Family Tree ruclips.net/video/qr1tr6lLNkA/видео.html
The AI tools on the genealogy sites can be useful, such as the date prediction on myHeritage. It can give a rough idea of the decade, but the range is pretty wide. Almost all of the photos that I added to myHeritage I knew the date already and the predicted date on the site was about 10 to 20 years out in each case. The prediction works better when there is a match to a person in your tree (where their dates already are on the tree), either through the AI tool recognising the face or you tagging the person. Having a place added can help too perhaps. But how good location will work for the AI to identify fashion age I am unsure. Places like New Zealand can be behind trend, so dates can be off if the tool is basing it on US fashions and the location is a different country.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Great points.
I was involved in theater in the military in the 1980s and in civilian life in the 1990s. Some of those productions were filmed and I still have some of them on VHS. I do think that the cinematographers of the latter probably hold the copyrights because I think I had to pay something to get my copies from them. But one of the videos is from our Air Force Choir production of "Godspell" at the Officers Club, Presidio of Monterey, California in 1982/83. I don't think that one was copyrighted. It was done "in house" so to speak. I played bass guitar in the pit orchestra. ;-)
Wow! That's something I think folks would love to see. However, do military restrictions apply to whether those can be posted online?
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I don't know. The base no longer exists or it is significantly smaller so I think that building is no longer on government property. I know a guy who has worked there in recent years and he said something about it not being at all the same as it was when I was there in 1982/83.
Memory is getting bad! lol How I could forget the 70s. I was a huge Led Zep fan. Also Rush, Aerosmith, Head East, etc. A buddy introduced me to Genesis and that got me into prog as well -- King Crimson, Yes, Roxy Music, U.K. and from U.K. into fusion (or what we called "jazz rock") like Mahavishnu, Jean-Luc Ponty, etc. and THAT led me to older jazz at the same time (late 1970s) getting into early punk and New Wave: Wire, Sex Pistols, Clash, XTC, etc.
You liked the pre-show it seems. Thanks for sharing your musical interests.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Yes it was very entertaining. Sorry I missed it live.
Power ballad - When I was in college, Sister Christian by Night Ranger was huge. Slash absolutely rules but, as a daughter of Texas, no one is better than Stevie Ray Vaughan. Duran Duran's Simon LeBon pretty much sings with an English (or not American) accent. Long live the Pre-Show!
Glad you enjoyed the pre-show. It was really fun.
I forgot about Sister Christian. That's a great song.
Journey: Faithfully
So good!!! Yes!!!
Power ballad: Pour Some Sugar on Me. As far as Stevie Ray, no one can compare. Pre-show topic (which is awesome): Fav movie or some place you might like to travel to. By the way, did you ever go to the Dixie Chicken?
Glad you agree that Stevie Ray was an amazingly talented guitarist.
Thanks for the pre-show topic ideas. I have them put in the list for future ideas.
In reference to sharing media. Other than (of course) copyrighted material such as photos taken in studios, pages from published books, etc. As long as the process in not too complicated I will share anything and everything my time, energy and concentration permitting. I have attached documents in Italian to my Ancestry and other online Public Family Trees with my transcription and English translation. The only thing about others' attached media that I don't like is when they attach copies of documents that are blurred or otherwise not legible to read. I get ready to read something that is new and exciting and that is really kind of a letdown. However I have gotten very experienced with finding documents myself so it is not a total lost cause. If I know the location of the administration of the document in question and the date that is usually enough to find the same microfilm. I found a baptism for an ancestor of one of my Italian cousins whom I met in person last month in Illinois. My great great grandfather married twice. Our family is descended from his first marriage and my cousin's family are descended from his second wife and I found her civil birth record and her church baptism record. The birth record was interesting because it stated at the time she was born in Italy, her father was not present because he was in Switzerland -- in 1874. Possibly working there.
I like that you post the translation of those documents. So helpful! I'm helping a patron do the very same thing!
Blurry images are awful. But, they can point you in a direction (maybe?)
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Yes I've learned how to use the system to find what I want -- so to speak ;-) Such as in the Latin records sometimes the heading has the name of the parish (in Latin of course) but sometimes it has no heading. But most of the parishes are arranged alphabetically and if they don't have a heading they might have the signature of the clerk (usually a priest) and I make notes of those and use that to figure out if it is the parish I need - plus learning ALL of the surnames in the parish -- not just the ones that are my relatives. So I've learned how to find what I want as long as I'm in the right parish and find the right year and then the date of the record in question (because within a year the records are mostly arranged chronologically.