I feel like the curly girl method is more of a set of rules that you can pull from to make your haircare routine better not necessarily something you should follow religiously
Jordyn Dickinson was Devacurl a part of that routine? Ive been following the CGM for a while (without devacurl using) and it has been doing wonders for my hair actually
@@Channiej93 devacurl is currently going through a lawsuit. Their ingredients are so bad for your hair and hundreds if not thousands of people have gotten their hair damaged (hair loss, frizz etc.) Do not use devacurl
I've used devacurl countless times and it has literally never hurt my hair. Like years ago there was nothing but love for divacurl and like it's just now all the sudden it's a horrible hair demon.
I think there are some people that read about a process that works for many people, be it a diet, work out plan, way to have gorgeous hair, and they follow it religiously. When they don’t get the results they were hoping for, they keep trying different products, foods, equipment, ect! Sometimes the answer is that it just doesn’t work for them! I think all India is trying to do is support them and let them know that it’s not something they are doing wrong, it’s just a journey to see what works for you! No harm in that!
Most of the time I watch this and see these as exceptions that are often used on the curly hair subreddit and it’s still considered following the curly girl method - some hair needs modifications, ESPECIALLY wavy fine hair.
Former stylist here. You're not losing less hair by using a brush, you're just removing them between shampoos by brushing your hair. When you don't brush between washing, the hairs that your scalp naturally sheds every single day don't come out until you're detangling in the shower. You'll still naturally loose the same amount, you're just getting rid of the shedding hair more often by brushing and therefore not seeing them all come out at the same time. That said, I prefer brushing my wavy hair most days because I hate the amount of shedding I have to deal with in the shower if I don't brush. Do whatever works for you!
Unfortunately that was not the case for me and everyone kept telling me the same as you're telling right now. And whilst for the majority of people that information may be correct, it wasn't for me and i actually needed to go to the doctor because i was getting bald. Switched up my routine and with different products and now I'm starting to go back to normal again.
@@MsWhutevah Can I ask what they finally said was the reason you were losing hair? I am losing a ton and they don't know why yet so I was thinking maybe you could point me in the right direction.
I think she means she loses less bc finger detangling and wide tooth comb pulls more on your hair. I have fine but thick hair and with a wide tooth comb the comb parts are so still they'll rip tf out of my hair. and same w my fingers I find that i rip less hair out and that a brush (wet brush) is wayyy more gentle and I think thats y its less hair loss.
I never went full blown CG but did follow a lot of “rules” that DID help my hair but now I just do whatever works and always encourage other wavies (and curlies) to do the same
Ya im not as strict, i p much just dont use sulfates or silicones or anything harmful; i still color my hair and brush it every so often with a comb to keep my scalp healthy. I do what works best for my hair and for my health and wallet
ca L I think they have a brand that does that! There’s a brand called Love Ur Self so it’s abbreviated LUS they have a line of products that are more aligned to curl types and they have an attached blog. I’ve seen a lot of before and after photos from them! Beautiful!
I brush my hair. That’s one rule I can not get down with. My hair is way way way too tangley. Even when I brush right before I shower, by the time I shampoo and flip my hair over to condition it’s tangled and I have to brush or finger detangle AGAIN for another 5-10 minutes. And then even after that my hair clings together from the back to the front pieces and creates another tangled mess. Sigh.
Rebecca Busic I had the same problem. I‘d have to brush my hair multiple times during a shower. I can really recommend the tangle teezer brush (its like 15€). I was surprised that it actually works so well. Now I only have to brush it once with conditioner in it and it feels super smooth.
Ok but, the reason you see less hair in the drain when you brush your hair is because you’re brushing those dead strands out versus CGM where it all comes out at one time.
No this actually completely false. The hair taken out of the tangles dry is actually hair that has been broken off and ripped by your brush and contributes to split ends and breakage. In the shower if you do it with the conditioner it creates a kind of lubricant and the hair coming out is the normal fallout but with minimal attached hair breaking off. It works with just water as well.
i don’t brush my hair all those days before washing because my hair is too curly and I don’t like the brush it dry. So at the end of the week if I brush my dry hair out right before I wash it, will that help eliminate the amount of hair fallout in my shower? I don’t want to clog my drains anymore. And I don’t use normal brushes I only use wide tooth for minimal damage/breakage.
CGM rules I follow(2c/3a curl type) -no silicones -no parabens -not washing my hair everyday -sulfate free shampoo+botanical conditioner+alcohol(only fatty) and silicone free gel -microfiber towel/T-shirt CGM rules I don't follow -I use brushes(wet brush and bristle brush when doing a ponytail) -oils(natural and silicone free) -I straighten my hair 1-2 times a year -I dye my hair(not frequently though) -I use sulfates every once in a while, my scalp needs them In conclusion: Don't go hardcore on the CGM, do whatever works for your hair.
Why do people bash parabens without actually knowing how they work? It’s ignorant. Parabens are actually one of the safest preservatives out there but obviously brands need your coin so sis DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
The first rule of CGM Club is to tell everyone about it and shame those who disagree! lol Seriously though, cgm *did* teach me to be more conscious about the ingredients in my products and how to use them, but after a while it does become a bit glassy-eyed "one of us, one of us!" .
Silicones are not the devil! There are water soluble silicones that are easy to wash away. Also, if you put a moisturizer on before the silicone the silicone creates a coating on that moisturizer that locks in the moisture.
I apply from the method: 1) Just washing my scalp, not the ends 2)Brushing with conditioner with a wide comb 3)Refreshing techniques so I don't have to redo my hair everyday 4) Techniques to apply product, dry it and sleep on it. *I cannot cowash because it makes my scalp super itchy.Squish while I shower doesn't work on me(I can only squish when all the products are already applied).
Pretty much the only cgm rules I follow is no sulfates parebens or silicones. For me personally I don’t need to follow any other rules🤷🏼♀️ and I have loved my hair more every day since going no sulfate no silicones no parabens😍😍😍🤗🤗🤗
Yup Yup! I also found using protein free shampoo and conditioner along with using a little gel worked a miracle on my hair! I don't follow any other "rules" 😀
“As you get older your hair turns into a not blonde, not brown hair.” A million times *yes* .It’s so frustrating. I could never put the color it into words, but that’s it 😂
So true. Dirty dishwater brown, dirty blonde, sandy blonde. I finally embraced it 2 years ago and now it’s sandy blonde with grays starting to come in that look silvery white.
I just started using a silicone based hair serum and I can't believe how incredible the results have been! I too have waves that get weighed down, so I'm washing my hair anyway. I use the silicone primarily to scrunch out the crunch, and also to prevent moisture loss with how dry the air is this time of year. It does absolutely coat your hair, but quite frankly, that's something my high porosity hair needs to help prevent damage. Silicone is also a great heat protectant, and I absolutely cannot get the definition or volume I want without diffusing with heat
This video is amazing! I started the CGM almost 2 years ago and over time I realized alot of the steps they recommend you to follow hurt my hair and curl pattern. I love my "lazy" curly girl method!
A good conditioner, curly cream with a primer and scrunch while really wet, put clips at root to lift, let almost dry and use diffuser to complete drying , take out clips and style with hands. The end. I have had curly hair all my life and got sick of trying to make it straight, this works for me and isn't that difficult.
I was silicone free and sulfate free for years and my hair literally broke off at the shoulder (had nearly waist length hair) and it thinned out. My fine delicate wavy hair knots too easily without the slip of silicones and it breaks off without the coating protection of silicones. Everyone also said to do coconut oil masks and that made my hair brittle and break off too. 2 years into recovering my hair and I am anti coconut oil and pro silicones and my hair is full soft and getting long. I use olive oil and mayonnaise for hair masks. Silicones haven’t prevented my hair from being moisturized properly. It is silkier now than it was sulfate and silicone free.
TLDR: No-poo made my hair fall out, switching back to sulfate shampoo stopped my hair loss in its tracks, and it’s growing back. I don’t know if my story will help you, but while I didn’t use Devacurl products, I DID follow a no-poo method, using Dr Bronners soap followed with a cider rinse, as well as a very lovely-smelling cowash. So basically, my hair fell out in ROPES, and I did think it was a lot, but I never realized how much I was actually losing until one day I decided to pincurl my hair after a couple of years of not doing so. So what normally would take the better part of an hour because of all my hair wound up taking less than 30 minutes. And as I was doing it, I could tell how much LESS hair I had. Wtf?? So in a fit of fear, I decided to count the hairs I lost during my shower (I cleaned out everything first, brush and drain, then put down a fine net to catch the hairs). I was losing almost ONE THOUSAND hairs! The average loss is about 150 hairs or so a day. But even calculating that, I was easily losing much more than average. I took my hair and went to the doctor, had a ton of bloodwork done, and it was completely inconclusive. Btw, definitely keep the fallen hair, because the dermatologist can tell a lot from the root, she was glad I brought the massive snarl. She asked me if there was anything I was doing in my daily life, and I immediately thought of my no-poo routine. So the next time I showered, I used a sulfate shampoo, and of course I lost a lot. But I also decided to wash every two or three days instead of four or five. And by the 3rd shower, my loss was back to normal, just a small amount. It’s been that way ever since. Shampooing is about taking care of your *scalp* more than it is about your hair, and no-poo/non-sulfate was causing my follicles to be gummed up and thus causing hair loss. Or so I think. But it’s recovering, and I do follow some of the CGM styling tips. Btw, I’m Caucasian, menopausal, with what I think is 2b/2c hair, but it’s getting curlier as I get older, it used to be just somewhat wavey.
Thank you. I've been transitioning all week since being home, and the knots and tangles are insane. I've been avoiding the silicones but I don't even use this much product when I wore it straight, so it's been a struggle. I don't even remember using this much product when I had perms in the 80s. I'll try my silicone tomorrow and see if it helps. The creams and gels and crunchy spots are driving me insane. And I never gave up my brush. Ever.
Maybe because it’s the curly girl method, not the wavy curl method. Supermarket products are already made for your type of hair. Don’t try to get curlier than your are. You don’t know what real dry curly hair is
Curly hair has its own brain. Or at least mine does.it sometimes has is own zip code. Mine does especially In humidity. All my friends curly hair needs different things at different times of the year. I can't go with the curly girl method completely. My hair won't agree to this. Do what is good or works for you. Love your honesty and love your videos. Keep them coming:)
@Ava Brooks yikes! Literally every race and ethnicity has curly hair. You can't even see the hair of the person you replied to. It's crazy you think only black people have curls.
Co-washing had my scalp full of buildup daily. I had to use a clarifying shampoo more than once you get rid of all the conditioner plus hair product. And weekly deep conditioning had my hair weighed down. My hair is high porosity and needed more protein more often than deep conditioner
Co wash is more for women who has coarse hair like myself who’s hair tends to get dry through the week. It just helps put moisture into your hair until you make it to your wash day. Because obviously our hair has low porosity. That’s who it was made for. It’s made to replenish moisture to your hair. Ppl should be cleansing their hair with sulfate free shampoo once a week unless your hair falls more under the kinky type. So looking from your picture of your hair is high porosity and it’s easier for you to get moisture into your hair then you should not be co washing. Your hair can not take all of that product. That’s why your hair would get weighed down so much. You’ll be fine if you had your wash day and as the days go past just refresh your curls with water and reactivate the product you already have in. Therefore you get your volume and a little bit more moisture then if you need a little bit of extra product just use a dime size amount of leave in conditioner and cuff it on to your ends and continue your regular routine. Idk of you use a blow dryer or one of those natural gels to cuff your ends after the leave in. But lastly let it air dry or blow dry on cool whatever you use then boom. You’ll have the moisture and volume you want. From your picture I can tell co washing is definitely not for your hair type.
@@leilagiuwohali9768 you're right I am high porosity, but when I started on my curly journey I had no idea. I was following many girls who recommended co-washing and tried it and it didn't work for me. But now I see why it didn't.
@@leilagiuwohali9768 you can't tell if someone has low or high porosity hair from a picture unless the hair is extremely damaged. This lady's hair looks fine and you would not know unless you did a porosity test in person. Anyone no matter the hair texture can have high or low porosity. It depends on what they use and their personal genes. What you're saying is bullshit.
L L if you can’t tell by the eye if someone has high porosity or low porosity hair then you’re dumber than I would figure. Y’all make stuff harder than it really seems lmao. Here let me break down for you in a realistic way so your brain can play catch up because obviously this woman herself admitted she had low porosity hair because her hair takes up too much moisture to even use a co wash.... because anyone who knows curlyhair products... knows that’s co washes are thick as fuck and not so much water based. AKA MEANING THEY WERE MADE FOR TO PENETRATE WOMEN WITH LOW POROSITY HAIR. That’s like saying you pick up a hair product from the shelf and then as you’re looking at the product you’re testing it to see if the product is thick or more water based. I can tell from this woman’s hair that moisture for her is easier to penetrate her hair vs a female who is a 4c or who has my texture.... so sorry to tell you that’s common sense. So what you’re saying is bullshit. The shit isn’t rocket science which is why so many females were lead wrongly. Listening to all these supposedly “curly gurus” who don’t even listen to their own hair. Instead they’re going off of what’s trending so whoever said you can’t tell if someone has high porosity or low porosity just by looking at their hair and taking estimate guess knowing what products will work for them is a got damn lie. Stop listening to the media. It’s common sense. I mean .... HOW ELSE YOU THINK MY HAIR IS FLOURISHING??? I stopped listening to the media. Have a nice day. I’ll take my own words than listening to these damn you tubers who are having these women hair fall out. Thank you, 😎
Xiomara x • those must be people within the cgm community. Outside that bubble, I feel like most people have no clue about sulphates, parabens, silicons or 3c/4abc curl patterns etc.
Says to take a shot of water every time she says “curly girl method” then proceeds to not say it again until the end of the video...😒 I took a sip every time she said curls instead 😁
THIS CONTENT IS ☕️☕️ High porosity coarse wavy hair and silicones are BFFS btw 💃💃 Sulfate or sulfate free as well. As long as I get volume and clarifies very well
corliss825 Some salon brands have sulfates in them and they do not strip to the point of feeling uber dry and brittle because of other high quality ingredients being in them😊 plus, when you only wash 2x a week, then you need a good cleanse anyways. I follow up with a mask like living proof restore treatment too. biosilk serum is amazing too as a frizz fighter
The only “rules” I follow of the cgm is No sulfates No silicones No parabens Then I guess no straightening, brushing and using a micro fibre towel but I’ve done those my whole life
You might be the first curly girl I've heard/seen say they never straighten their hair their whole life lol most people say that straightened their hair a lot when they were younger
Why do people bash parabens without actually knowing how they work? It’s ignorant. Parabens are actually one of the safest preservatives out there but obviously brands need your coin so sis DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
Vivian West They are literally linked to disrupted hormones in the body and can harm fertility and reproductive organs, affect birth outcomes, and increase the risk of cancer.
THANK YOU for being a real person. Nothing that requires me to stop dyeing my mousy brown hair to jet black is happening so I totally get not compromising on coloring your hair just because a pseudo-hair religion says so. Going silicone and sulfate free in shampoo and conditioners is one thing (minus hard water shampoo twice a month, non-negotiable as a renter with hard water). No more wonderful Korean and Japanese hair serums and masks and even some Western salt sprays because of a smoothing agent? Not happening. I see it like skincare and aging. Would I look younger if I never went to the beach, did not drink, and ate only healthy food? Sure, but life is meant to be lived and enjoyed. Minus an allergy or sensitivity, we shouldn't be letting one ingredient in a product we otherwise like ruin our lives. Curly Girl and the skincare fragrance police just make skincare and hair not fun, which it should be
Can you do a updated version of your hair routine? I would like to know how you go about brushing your hair. Because I also lose so much hair in the shower. 🙈
@@corliss825 I did too! I use Monat products now and they are FAB for curly girls! Let me know if you'd like to know more and I can get you some products! Instagram: rohwery
@@Jindabyne I use Monat products now and they are FAB for curly girls! Let me know if you'd like to know more and I can get you some products! Instagram: rohwery
@@TheTinydawg I use Monat products now and they are FAB for curly girls! Let me know if you'd like to know more and I can get you some products! Instagram: rohwery
I don’t have extremely curly hair, but I did look into the cgm. I was a bit taken aback by all the rules and such. Curly hair is not a one size fits all thing. Some girls have fine curls and some have kinky, coarse curls. Do whatever works for your hair.
I’m on the blonde hair train as well. I feel most confident and myself with blonde hair. I tried to embrace my dirty blonde/light brown hair when I first started the CGM. But once I brought the blonde back I finally felt like myself again! 💜💁🏼♀️
I’m allergic to most curly girl and non curly girl products which is why I’ve spent a lot of time making homemade hair cadre products for my hair, that make my hair manageable but not always presentable. Normally I do a fantastic job of making them if I’m not living or staying with women or families that hate me and literally want my hair torn out. I’m looking for ways to increase volume and not have all my hair go down the drain but also not break the budget, and that I can quickly and easily make in the kitchen to fit my schedule. I used to always be working really hard to straighten my hair making recipes that were high in aloe Vera and coconut oil. I spent a lot of time on it when I did it, but it made the rest of my life way easier than modern brushes and shampoos with the chemicals and smells that I find nauseating. I’m looking a curly girl method for a fine/medium wavy hair type with normal porosity. I’m considered in between wavy and “normal fine hair”. But the modern shampoos have caused a lot of breakage as well as a ton of unmanageable frizz. I’ve used a lot of traditional Indian herbal straightening recipes that make people think my hair is “normal”. My hair looks worse than a curly girl without casting gel when I don’t do the straightening herbs and so I would like to try wavy in the hopes that my hair will look good and not be as time consuming as the straightening method or as expensive or chemical feel and smell as the curly girl method is for sensitive people like me. I have a lot of allergies and sensitivities and enjoy making things myself that don’t take to much time. I love your channel. Thank you in advance.
The reason there is less hair in the shower is because it's in your brush. I specifically brush my hair before I shower for that explicit reason. You're still losing the same amount of hair.
I occasionally straighten my hair! Sometimes I need a change and I literally have 0 difference to my curls when I go back to curly! I followed CGM for 2 years honestly I see no difference from now where I no longer follow it! My hair feels forced alot to, with all the routines and changing routines all the time, figuring out what my hair wants, so having that break and just straightening is needed.
Im a natural blonde finally stopped dying my hair a couple years back. Im now back to 100% natural "in between" colour and actually love it now :) Each to their own though. :)
I totally agree with starting with CGM to learn what your hair REALLY needs. Once you get that figured out, you can discern which rules actually benefit your specific head of hair. Due to hard water and the fact that my hair was constantly over moisturized even with the lightest conditioner and tons of protein, I've started using a harsher shampoo and don't care about drying alcohols. But if I hadn't been through the CGM, I never would've figured all of that out or restored my curls after years of straight up neglecting my hair.
My hair recently decided to be curly again lol. It’s gone back and forth from curly to basically straight with a little wave since I was a little kid even with the same basic hair care routine. So right now I’m just starting the curly girl method, I’ve been doing it for about a month now I believe. I’m liking the results but I’m probably gonna okay around with some “unorthodox” methods as well to see what works for me. So right now I’m strictly doing cgm but probably not for long.
I mean, I use a low-poo and I occasionally use a wide tooth comb, but I still consider myself following CGM. I feel like the most important rules for CGM involve choice of ingredients in products: no sulfates, silicones, waxes, drying alcohols, etc. I also feel like CGM is more of an overall lifestyle rather than something you can never deviate from - kind of like if you normally eat really healthy but you eat cake on your birthday and on your family’s/friend’s birthdays, you know? Having cake once in a while doesn’t make you unhealthy, and overall your lifestyle IS very healthy, just like bending CGM rules once in a blue moon isn’t going to undo all your CG progress, you know? So I don’t stress if, for example, I’m traveling, forget a product, and have to use a silicone conditioner until I get home, but overall I’d still consider myself as following the method. Just my thoughts I guess! Edit: I also didn’t know the curlygirl handbook banned all alcohols? That’s def true what you said about drying vs. fatty alcohols, and I guess why it’s always better to understand the science behind an ingredient instead of blindly following blanket rules! One of my pet peeves is when people say something like “oh this product was so drying for me, and no wonder! It’s full of alcohols!” And I’m like “GIRL those are all moisturizing, fatty alcohols!” 😑 end rant 😂
We all have different hair, and scalps! What works for one may not for another! Even life and its events can change your hair! Up until about 10 years ago, my scalp was oily! I wouldn't be able to "co-wash", or go days and days without washing my hair (unless I hid my hair under a hat, or in an up-do!)!! I'm 58 yrs old, now, and I've been enjoying "co-washing"! My scalp and hair don't feel as dry when I do!!
Nobody's curly hair is the same as another's. Honestly I think my hair looked better when I want so conscious of using silicone and sulfates!! We try to improve what's already good and it's like ruining a perfect recipe. So I think the curly girl method is just fine for those who like it yet it can be tweaked to fit each individual. Thanks for the video India.
There a probably a hundred reasons why hair color is needed. I highlight 3 times a year because my hair turned white (I’m a senior citizen) in the front but at the point of the top or the ears it was a faded brown to the end of scalp. I waited for years for the white to progress. Not gonna happen. It’s just weird and more phoeny looking than an old goth girls hair. So while I’m not thrilled, I can’t see another way to look normal. 😵💫
I have type 2 b/c curly hair. I use a cleansing conditioner most days when i need a deeper clean i use a lather shampoo with no sulfate in it and conditioner with no silicons or parabens. After i get out the shower i dry with a microfiber towel or t shirt. Styling depends on where im going and what im doing. But most regular days it’s just wash and go with a lit bit of leave in conditioner. Fancy days..lol its a styling cream or gel! One good deep conditioner is a must have and your favorite oils. Mine is jojoba! That’s my favorites for my curly hair!
I follow CGM rules but only the ones that makes sense. Sulfate-free shampoo, Triple Kerstin Conditioner, Styling Cream, Curly hair gel I only use this four and my hair is in its best state. I also don't use brush instead I use wide tooth comb and only do it in the shower. Lastly, I use silk scrunchie with silk pillow or silk hair cap while sleeping. I follow only this, this is the resl game changer for me. Nothing more, nothing less
Yes, yes, and yes. You're practically my hair twin and I started the CGM a few years ago after getting a pixie cut thanks to an incompetent hair stylist (highlights gone bad) So I started over and embraced my natural and it was great for a while. But my hair is really fine and thin and almost like yours in every way. But now it is below my shoulder blades and weighted down. Using curly approved "shampoos" and conditioners made it look dirty ALL the time, and limp, and flat. I had to change products all the time in order for it to have any effect anymore. I also can't NOT brush my hair. Like you said, it seems like I was shedding WAY too much and that is because all of my shed hair was being held in place by my curl pattern and they all came out in the shower. So brushing before washing meant my shed hair was coming out in my brush. Its just not meant for oily fine hair.
I completely agree, that volume is better than hard looking curls. I have watched so many hair videos in the past year. I have learned that I want a simplified process that has fullness and soft curls. Letting my hair grow out layers has not been as simple or cost saving- because of looking for more volume and body on straight to wavy hair. I think steam curling, or a wavy perm will be simpler and less worrying. Thanks for your upbeat and funny videos.
I’m a new curly girl. Over the past few months my hair has gone wavy. My hair care professional says it was probably due to some sort of hormone change. I’m sixty-one. I totally agree with you that the curly girl method is a great place to start. I’ve learned so much from your videos about hair and makeup. Keep up the wonderful work you do. Plus I love watching your funny faces and listening to your hilarious comments.
That’s the issue that I’m having right now. I’ve cut out sulfates and silicones but have noticed that even though my hair is more defined and shiney, yes it’s flat. And it’s driving me nuts. I’ve thought about going back to my normal shampoo but I just don’t know yet. It’s driving me crazy though. My hair is super thin as it is. And being flat makes it look worse.
Ashley White mine is SUPER flat and thin. I don’t know what to do. Even my sister commented today saying how thin and flat it looked. So it’s not just me seeing it. Let me know if you find a solution.
Abby Robinson, I definitely will! Right now I feel like I need to go back to my normal shampoo. I’m trying really hard to hold out though. But I feel like I need to wash my hair more so now since I’ve switched shampoos. My hair gets super oily very quick with the sulfate free shampoo I’m using. It literally looks like someone poured baby oil in my hair after only two days. I had only been washing my hair twice a week as it was. But now I feel like I wash it more because I stand the oil and the flatness of it. It’s very frustrating.
Ashley White same with my hair, i really wanted to try the cgm but when i did, i didnt notice amazing results that lasted long. Although, 1-2 times when i washed my hair it turned out amazing but I might try going back to my pantene conditioner and shampoo and seeing how it works !
Evelyn Chao, that’s the problem I’m having. I’m going to have to wash my hair soon and might just use my regular shampoo and conditioner. The cgm is an awesome thing I think. It’s just not working for my hair personally. My hair is very curly naturally and also very thin. I just hate that it looks so flat while trying to do the cgm. Being so thin sucks enough without it looking so flat all the time. I need some volume! 😂
My hair gets flat if I don't sulphate shampoo every so often. I used a sulphate shampoo once or twice a month (sometimes more, sometimes less depending on what my hair needs). Maybe play around with doing a sulphate shampoo every second or third wash?
Yaya Martinez I’m lucky? Sis, flat stringy hair is not it! 😘 But I am glad I never had to deal with Deva Curl! My cousin has naturally curly hair and I’ve always been super jealous of her 🤩
I am SO GLAD I stumbled upon your video! I agree with EVERYTHING you say, I'd used CGM for YEARS, and it was nice in the beginning but after a while my hair became really limp and it ruined my curl pattern! NOT TO MENTION it made my hair fall out! Now the only rule I basically follow is the 'no sulfates, parabens and silicones', but I honestly prefer my own catered 'lazy girl' method! I honestly think its so much better to find what works with your hair and not just follow what everyone else says since everyone's curls are so different!
I watch quite a few youtubers with wavy/curly hair and you Melanie Thompson are the only two who’s product recommendations work for my hair. My hair loves every single thing you recommend. I really appreciate it!
Despite CGM, please don't comb hair after shampoo if u wanna save ur hair. ALWAYS DRY COMB BEFORE SHAMPOO. Trust me on this one. It'll just distribute your scalp oil all over the strands ... And ofcourse you're going to shampoo after that you don't have to worry about the results of dry comb. Your hair will thank you of you dry comb before shampoo. Go from "less hair in the drain" to "no hair in the drain". 😊
I use sulfates too. But try to avoid silicones in my styling products. I could never be down with the no brushing either. I could never get used to it. It's so much better to detangle with a brush. So I've never been fully committed to the curly girl method.
Girl! I would love to hook you up with Monat products! They are FAB for curly girls! Plant based and all natural! Let me know if you'd like to know more and I can get you some products! Instagram: rohwery
I'm the same, I prefer volume way more over defined, tigh curls. Some of the girls that promote the curly girl method like Swavy Curly Courtney have such a wet look that I am not going for at all. I love 80s style, wavy/curly hair and it was all about volume then.
I’m still very new with curly girl method. But I dye my hair.....red....lol....I have changed my wash times. I wash my hair once a week and deep condition once a week and I can definitely see a change in my hair. I haven’t done “the big chop” cause uhhh I just love my hair lol.
I’m very interested in a more detailed video about being a blonde who gets highlights but also embraces their natural curl. I’m one of those girls too sister!
Me listening to the rules: okay, sounds reasonable so far. "Quit brushing your hair." Girl, hell no. I might try cgm, but there is absolutely no way that I'm going to quit brushing. 😂
I gave up too! I found the CGM to take FOREVER to dry and then even when I scrunched I had a kind of wet look I wasn’t living for. Maybe I’ll go back to it in the summer! Thanks for a video I can really relate to! ❤️🙏❤️
Omg I feel the same way about the curly girl method I loved it at first and after while my hair got worse. Especially the hair loss in the shower I was getting bald spots from not using a brush.
So, I know nothing about the CGM but I have learned that sulfates cause massive amounts of build up on my scalp and because of that I do have to stop using shampoos with them unless absolutely necessary.
I always wondered if I was supposed to be losing so much hair when I detangled in the shower. I recently started brushing my hair according to Curly Penny's advice and my hair is soft for days, meaning I don't have to detangle as much anymore and risk losing lots of hair. It's so good to know you had a similar experience!
I dye my hair, but I have super fine hair and I've found when it's dyed or bleached I really prefer that texture. Also, you're still losing the same amount of hair. When we stop brushing and combing our hair the hair that naturally falls out every day just stays in with your curls. It has a lot harder time finding its way to the floor. Brushing allows you to get all that hair that naturally sheds every day. I also had to go back to condish with amodimethicone in the winter.
I follow the CGM, but I’m also not 100% compliant. I still have to wash my hair every other day, because my hair and scalp are naturally oily. I also dry brush my hair every day. Oh, did I mention, I recently got a PERM! My natural hair texture is 2a/b, but now I’m a 2c/3a! I still try to avoid sulfates, silicones, parabens, and drying alcohols. And lately I’ve been trying to avoid excess glycerin because it is most definitely winter where I live (western Pennsylvania). I do really like the NYMN yellow and dark blue lines, as well as the Curl Talk Curl Cream and Defining Gel.
Wavy hair here 2b/2c. I wanted to try the CGM, but really, it's way to much. I baby my hair. It's been virgin for 15 years. A week and half ago I got it bleached and dyed a magnificent velvet purple. My hair is healthier now, because I've been using salon quality products (Biolage Colorlast Shampoo and Conditioner and the Colorlast Apricot hair mask). I switched all my hair products to Biolage. My color is barely faded and it's been washed 3 times.
I have 2 B/C hair. I use sulfate shampoo but tresseme conditioner and I have virgin hair and use very little heat. I would love to find a silicone free conditioner so that I can get away from using sulfate shampoo everytime I wash my hair. Some times I can get away with using a CG approved shampoo. I use leave a small amount of leave in conditioner and it does help with my tangles.
I follow Manes by Mel RUclips channel. Her advice & techniques have had thee best short & long term effects on my 2b waves/curls (they’re 2c curls when I don’t highlight 😬). Her hair is considerably thicker & much more curly than mine but she’s also an amazing professional hairdresser/stylist -especially for curly hair. Not all stylists know how to cut & treat curly hair but she does (& yes there are some things that are quite different from how you might cut or treat straighter hair) & I’ve learned a lot from her videos over the past 8-9 mos. She explains so many important, useful & helpful things regarding all types of curly/wavy hair that most stylists either don’t know or have forgotten since being in school. So no, I don’t follow the Curly Girl method completely but there are some things that I definitely do follow - & plopping definitely isn’t one of them lol! Bcz plopping equals a frizzy mess with no curl clumps for this girl!
So relieved to hear your thoughts and applications of the Curly Girl method because I have the same hair issues you mentioned! I am blonde but turned ash in my twenties...have to highlight to maintain my Goldie locks too! Need sulphates to cut the GREASE :-P !
I break some rules too!! I just love being blonde way too much to sacrifice the bleach. BUT I religiously don't use any silicone to make up for it. I do the once a month sulfate cleanse too (with purple shampoo for 2-in-1).
India you have to try the Remington Tangle Tamer. It's a battery powered brush that kind of vibrates and removes tangles like nothing else without losing hair. It's so amazing. I got mine on Amazon 😍
Look on Amazon. Now calling it Remington wet or dry tame the mane electric detangling brush. $20.99. It’s so good the vibration goes through the hair without ripping it. I use it before I wash.
India, you have such a sparkling personality and you are a joy to look at. Your videos are always a real pleasure. I dye my hair and I use sulfate shampoo to get the dye out, so when I know I will be dying my hair and using a sulfate shampoo, that's the one time I use silicones ha ha! Great video - thank you for your refreshing honesty.
Yeah this whole video is just an ad for not your mother's.... Most of their products aren't CGM approved, also.. because they contain sulfates and silicones.
I am 53 (yikes!!) and have in the last year (finally heeding the advice of my fabulous stylist) been trying to 'embace my wave/curl'. Started with the CGM, but am finding fault & things that I personally don't like. Just stumbled across your videos & let me say, you are AWESOME!! Thanks so much & keep 'em coming! ❤️❤️
I left the curly girl method long ago as well. CGM made my curls shiny and very defined, but it caused build up on my scalp and made it itchy, it also reduced the volume. After I stopped it and started washing my hair with shampoo properly, and using less products, my scalp has been feeling waay better, my hair is still shiny and defined and has more volume which I love x3 Now I just make sure I cut my hair regularly, and use hair masks and a good conditioner to keep it healthy
I'm a baby chemist in undergrad, so I'm no expert, but I wanted to add my two cents. Not all sulfates are created equally! It's about concentration! It's about the literal type of sulfate! It's a class of chemicals, it's not like all of them are the exact same thing or clean with the exact same strength. Think about alcohol, we can generally ingest a few 5% ABV ethanol beers and not die, but if you drank the same quantity of methanol, butanol, etc you would die way before you finished your drink. These are compounds that differ by a CH2 group or two, and yet they react in massively different ways with our bodies in the same concentrations. Some sulfates may be too stripping for you, but that doesn't mean that all of them are. Or maybe you picked up a shampoo that was too highly concentrated (they don't put concentration on the label, they don't even have to list the ingredients in order, it's just convention). Or maybe all sulfates are too stripping for you, that doesn't mean they are all too stripping for your fellow curly girls. Thank you so much India for being so supportive generally of all types of hair journeys. It's super helpful and super uplifting. I could go on about silicones as well and relative solvation in water, but I already feel a tad ridiculous so Imma just leave it here.
I'm exactly like you!! I do follow a lot of the cgm rules like I try not to use sulfates/silicones (but ngl I do occasionally use a sulfate shampoo to get rid of build every now and then) and I also HAVE to brush my hair, I've tried finger detangling and combing before and it just doesn't work for me. I have very thick hair that gets tangled easily so I need a brush. I also have to wash my hair with shampoo, I wash my hair with shampoo like once week and then cowash every few days. There's no way I can just get away with cowashing all the time, I've tried it before and just cowashed but it really weighed my hair down and I got a lot of build up. Thanks for making this video btw, it's nice to know other people don't follow it religiously because I felt like I was the only one! 🤣 Also your hair is looking SO pretty and voluminous!!!
‘More hair on my head, less hair in the drain’ 🎶 😂😂😂 Love your videos! Love Bianca too! Nice shout out to her! Water in the tub container happens to me too AND the am/pm alarm. Been there done that and changed my alarm to 24 hour clock annnnd still did it 😑. Much love girlie!❤️❤️
Thank you so much. I’ve been struggling so much with trying to keep my curls nice and get them back with the cgm. Thank you for showing me it’s ok to not agree with all of it and you don’t have to feel bad from it. This past summer it kept me out of swimming in pools and the ocean. Thank you for helping me reclaim my life.
Here's the rules I follow and they are still working just fine 1- I don't brush by hair dry so I don't need a comb to detangle 2-I shampoo my hair with a sulfate free silicone free paraben free 3- Obviously same goes for conditioner and I would use a hydrating mask once a week and a protein mask once a month If your hair is chemically treated then use more protein into your routine Also... bleach can't kill your hair since your hair is dead cells...what it does is it breaks it and gives it split ends and it makes your hair's ability to hold moisture so much worse than it already is for curly hair You can use silicone as long as you see tricedth 12 or 13 I don't really remember and cetermonium chloride these two make some silicones water soluble so you won't need to use sulfates...just try to use products that have dimethicone sparingly
I attempted the curly curl method. Nothing has made me want to shave my head faster than that. It's just too much! And my hair hated it. I'm still learning how to deal with my waves, but I'm not using all those rules.
The wavy life is hard. We have to fight harder for our curls and I think it makes full on curly girl much harder to follow for us so I'm the same. Modified.
I only follow bits and pieces of the CCM myself, I can't really follow all of it because my hair is so thin but curly and I find if I don't at least shampoo my hair, it gets super greasy and weighed down. And I sometimes choose to use sulfates with my shampoos, especially Head and Shoulders for dandruff occasionally.
I feel like the CMG is a base for beginners who have nowhere to start and have no idea how to take care of their hair. Following most of the rules has made my hair healthier and grow longer, but I'm barely getting the hang of feeling my hair and knowing what it wants, so I follow certain things and disregard others because they don't work for me. Everyone is different, but it's important to not do something for the rest of your life just because someone said so. Eliminate routines or products that are damaging your hair, then figure out what works for you on your journey to healthy hair.
I am on the beginning of my curly hair journey and am doing lots of research but started the CGM. Two weeks in and holy cow I have ZERO volume anymore. I feel like my curls looked better with the volume even though it was slightly more messy and less defined. Hopefully I will find a good routine soon!
I’m not gonna lie the “hair fallout” amount is because of the tangoes from not brushing causes your hair that falls out to actually get stuck in those tangles
Apparently DevaCurl is getting into some issues though because quite a lot of people are reporting that their products are making people’s hair fall out. Not all CG brands, just devacurl
I love your honesty about everything. I think everyone should do what works well for THEIR hair. There really is no "one size fits all" for any process in our bodies. Everyone has their own health issues, body chemistry and the way their body works around things. I personally can't follow CGM. I have psoriatic arthritis, with psoriasis in my scalp. The Paul Mitchell Tea Tree Shampoo helps control my symptoms. I'm with you, everyone should work their hair whichever way works best for them.
I totally agree! There isn't a one size fits all for anything in life i'm so happy to hear you found something that helps with your psoriasis !!! that's amazing
I used to cowash religiously but had to throw in the towel after two years. My hair started to fall out and my scalp began to burn, itch, and flake. Nothing I did curly girl approved worked so I went back to head and shoulders so now every other day I use the 2in1 dry scalp formula. My routine now is shampoo, condition with V05 passion fruit smoothie, sheamoisture curl enhancing smoothie for a leave in, and now I’m loving the Not Your Mother’s mousse! I don’t use a mask so definitely considering adding that to my routine but as of right now, this works for me. Keep up the good work!
I think following the basics of no sulfates and silicones is the one part of the method I think is key to follow especially if you’re just starting out. But obviously it’s not going to work the same for everyone and there’s nothing wrong with taking things and modifying them to fit your hair. Personally I love how my 2B waves looked when they’re more defined so I’m happy to continue following the method as much as possible because my waves have never looked better in my life. But there’s nothing wrong with breaking away from some of the rules cause a lot of the strict CGM followers I’ve seen treat it like it’s a one size fits all method. Which is silly cause everyone’s hair is different and has different needs. I think the most important thing is to try to stay sulfate and silicone free as much as you can and there’s nothing wrong with straying away every now and again if you feel like a certain product might work out for your hair. Keep doing what you’re doing India!
I felt guilty this morning using a silicone oil when I STRAIGHTEN my hair 😳 but it really makes a difference when it’s humid outside and my hair soaks it up! Loved the video and will have to check out the Not Your Mother’s shampoo and product line! I definitely don’t follow the CG method entirely but have definitely been learning more and more about my curly hair as I get older since my gray hair comes in more curly!
the rules I break from the CGM are the fact that I colour my hair, even though I have switched to semi permanent vegan dye, which has the very same formula as any hair deep conditioner, and also I still shampoo with sulfates once a month, which I will stop when I run out of it and I need some sort of tool because my hair is abundant, type 3A-B and baby fine so it tangles by just looking at it! I believe it's all about the balance that works for YOU and adjusting the techniques to YOUR needs :) your hair is amazing btw!
I've been using CGM approved products since April, and my hair is so much healthier now! However, I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss some the old products I was "allowed" to use lol.
I basically do the Australian Curly Girl Method a lot of us dye our hair and share tips for the best ways to do it and of course using Olaplex No.3 helps a tonne. I co-wash my denman brush held vertically to detangle as finger or comb detangling takes WAY too long. Love love love the Everescents line, it's Australian, vegan, refillable and made sustainably. I will sometimes use the Bergamot Conditioner as a co wash and sometimes I use Goat Conditioner Lemon Myrtle as a co wash. Love the Cinnamon and Patchouli as a leave in conditioner and also use a local brand as my gel (Curlture moisture gel). Personally I really love CGM as my hair is healthier than ever and the Aussie method is way more forgiving. Also sleep in a pineapple with a silk pillowcase and I never use heat on my hair unless it's a diffuser. Oh and an old t shirt to scrunch our excess water
I feel like the curly girl method is more of a set of rules that you can pull from to make your haircare routine better not necessarily something you should follow religiously
Jordyn Dickinson was Devacurl a part of that routine? Ive been following the CGM for a while (without devacurl using) and it has been doing wonders for my hair actually
snickerwizard I personally never used devacurl cause I couldn’t afford it and still followed most of the CGM methods
It's just different shampoo and no heat not that hard I just started using different shampoo and conditioner and my hair is Allredy curlier
@@Channiej93 devacurl is currently going through a lawsuit. Their ingredients are so bad for your hair and hundreds if not thousands of people have gotten their hair damaged (hair loss, frizz etc.) Do not use devacurl
I've used devacurl countless times and it has literally never hurt my hair. Like years ago there was nothing but love for divacurl and like it's just now all the sudden it's a horrible hair demon.
When these you tubers make their “why I stop following the cgm” I feel like I’m watching “why I stopped being vegan” or “why I left buzzfeed lol
Not really!
I think there are some people that read about a process that works for many people, be it a diet, work out plan, way to have gorgeous hair, and they follow it religiously. When they don’t get the results they were hoping for, they keep trying different products, foods, equipment, ect! Sometimes the answer is that it just doesn’t work for them! I think all India is trying to do is support them and let them know that it’s not something they are doing wrong, it’s just a journey to see what works for you! No harm in that!
It's a sponsored vid.
Most of the time I watch this and see these as exceptions that are often used on the curly hair subreddit and it’s still considered following the curly girl method - some hair needs modifications, ESPECIALLY wavy fine hair.
Girl same
Former stylist here. You're not losing less hair by using a brush, you're just removing them between shampoos by brushing your hair. When you don't brush between washing, the hairs that your scalp naturally sheds every single day don't come out until you're detangling in the shower. You'll still naturally loose the same amount, you're just getting rid of the shedding hair more often by brushing and therefore not seeing them all come out at the same time. That said, I prefer brushing my wavy hair most days because I hate the amount of shedding I have to deal with in the shower if I don't brush. Do whatever works for you!
Unfortunately that was not the case for me and everyone kept telling me the same as you're telling right now. And whilst for the majority of people that information may be correct, it wasn't for me and i actually needed to go to the doctor because i was getting bald. Switched up my routine and with different products and now I'm starting to go back to normal again.
Emelin Suriano I think she meant dry.
@@MsWhutevah Can I ask what they finally said was the reason you were losing hair? I am losing a ton and they don't know why yet so I was thinking maybe you could point me in the right direction.
I think she means she loses less bc finger detangling and wide tooth comb pulls more on your hair. I have fine but thick hair and with a wide tooth comb the comb parts are so still they'll rip tf out of my hair. and same w my fingers I find that i rip less hair out and that a brush (wet brush) is wayyy more gentle and I think thats y its less hair loss.
@Rachel Bollinger
She means when she brushes her hair in the shower, not dry brushing, so your comment is not really relevant
I never went full blown CG but did follow a lot of “rules” that DID help my hair but now I just do whatever works and always encourage other wavies (and curlies) to do the same
Suhanna De Silva totally agree !! I feel like I’m in the same boat as you !
Love your channels Suhanna and India! You've both have helped me so much!
Same.
Ya im not as strict, i p much just dont use sulfates or silicones or anything harmful; i still color my hair and brush it every so often with a comb to keep my scalp healthy. I do what works best for my hair and for my health and wallet
My hairdresser gets in massive arguments about how the curly girl method is way to strict and to do what works for you and your hair.
Im so sorry but for your own good im telling you please use the right to i hope you dont take this wrong i mean the best😁😂😄
they should have differnt methods for different curl types
ca L I think they have a brand that does that! There’s a brand called Love Ur Self so it’s abbreviated LUS they have a line of products that are more aligned to curl types and they have an attached blog. I’ve seen a lot of before and after photos from them! Beautiful!
Get different hairdresser lol
Aleksandra Lempart 😂 *LMFAO* 🤣
I brush my hair. That’s one rule I can not get down with. My hair is way way way too tangley. Even when I brush right before I shower, by the time I shampoo and flip my hair over to condition it’s tangled and I have to brush or finger detangle AGAIN for another 5-10 minutes. And then even after that my hair clings together from the back to the front pieces and creates another tangled mess. Sigh.
I stopped conditioning upside down for that reason. Wasn’t worth the tangle to me.
Omg same I have to brush but I take my time when I do tho
Rebecca Busic I had the same problem. I‘d have to brush my hair multiple times during a shower. I can really recommend the tangle teezer brush (its like 15€). I was surprised that it actually works so well. Now I only have to brush it once with conditioner in it and it feels super smooth.
I find my hair does this if the shampoo isn't a good mix for my hair.
Same here. The second water touches my hair it turns into a giant knot.
I do a “modified” CGM. I skip sulfates/silicones, but other than that, I do what I want!
Amanda Thomas same!
I do the opposite, my hair looks terrible without using sulfates but i do not use conditioners with silicones
same here
Aj odjebi you’re sacrificing your hairs moisture for looks?
Aj odjebi BUt if it works for you that’s fine!
Ok but, the reason you see less hair in the drain when you brush your hair is because you’re brushing those dead strands out versus CGM where it all comes out at one time.
MrsDarcyfans, yup, the same amount of hair is falling out, it’s just getting caught in the brush instead of the drain!
I came here to comment this exact thing...
No this actually completely false. The hair taken out of the tangles dry is actually hair that has been broken off and ripped by your brush and contributes to split ends and breakage. In the shower if you do it with the conditioner it creates a kind of lubricant and the hair coming out is the normal fallout but with minimal attached hair breaking off. It works with just water as well.
i don’t brush my hair all those days before washing because my hair is too curly and I don’t like the brush it dry. So at the end of the week if I brush my dry hair out right before I wash it, will that help eliminate the amount of hair fallout in my shower? I don’t want to clog my drains anymore. And I don’t use normal brushes I only use wide tooth for minimal damage/breakage.
Kat H Dude, a hair specialist up there just said that you’re wrong.
CGM rules I follow(2c/3a curl type)
-no silicones
-no parabens
-not washing my hair everyday
-sulfate free shampoo+botanical conditioner+alcohol(only fatty) and silicone free gel
-microfiber towel/T-shirt
CGM rules I don't follow
-I use brushes(wet brush and bristle brush when doing a ponytail)
-oils(natural and silicone free)
-I straighten my hair 1-2 times a year
-I dye my hair(not frequently though)
-I use sulfates every once in a while, my scalp needs them
In conclusion: Don't go hardcore on the CGM, do whatever works for your hair.
Why do people bash parabens without actually knowing how they work? It’s ignorant. Parabens are actually one of the safest preservatives out there but obviously brands need your coin so sis DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
Actually in CGM paraben is allowed
The cgm sounds like a cult
After a while it feels that way
@@ThisThatAndTheOther123 especially because people act like you are a total idiot and wrong if you dont do it...
Some hairstylist i went to, said this and I didn't understand where he was coming from... now.... Ha!
My stylist said the same things. She's never like their products and she's definitely been attacked for recommending alternatives.
The first rule of CGM Club is to tell everyone about it and shame those who disagree! lol
Seriously though, cgm *did* teach me to be more conscious about the ingredients in my products and how to use them, but after a while it does become a bit glassy-eyed "one of us, one of us!" .
Silicones are not the devil! There are water soluble silicones that are easy to wash away. Also, if you put a moisturizer on before the silicone the silicone creates a coating on that moisturizer that locks in the moisture.
Noeris Gil personally all it does for me is give me a shit ton of product buildup.
That’s why I think it’s important for everyone to figure out what is best for themself 🥰
Noeris Gil Which silicones are water soluble?
sbr141213 manes by mell has a video about which silicones are ok to use
Jessica Pratt Oh I’ll definitely check that out! Thank you!
I apply from the method:
1) Just washing my scalp, not the ends
2)Brushing with conditioner with a wide comb
3)Refreshing techniques so I don't have to redo my hair everyday
4) Techniques to apply product, dry it and sleep on it.
*I cannot cowash because it makes my scalp super itchy.Squish while I shower doesn't work on me(I can only squish when all the products are already applied).
Pretty much the only cgm rules I follow is no sulfates parebens or silicones. For me personally I don’t need to follow any other rules🤷🏼♀️ and I have loved my hair more every day since going no sulfate no silicones no parabens😍😍😍🤗🤗🤗
Beautiful Fails same!! These are the key things to help curly hair and frankly curlies need a good gentle brush to help with all those crazy tangles
Amdp2121 yasssssssss
Yup Yup! I also found using protein free shampoo and conditioner along with using a little gel worked a miracle on my hair! I don't follow any other "rules" 😀
Same!!
Yep me too i never co wash cause my hair gets easely overmosterized
“As you get older your hair turns into a not blonde, not brown hair.” A million times *yes* .It’s so frustrating. I could never put the color it into words, but that’s it 😂
Mushroom brown?
My friend calls it, "pencil lead". It's so true!
Mouse - as in the colour of a wild mouse. That’s what we always called it.
Such a struggle as a curly girl. I don't want to fry my hair with dye, but my haircolour is soooo boring.
So true. Dirty dishwater brown, dirty blonde, sandy blonde. I finally embraced it 2 years ago and now it’s sandy blonde with grays starting to come in that look silvery white.
I just started using a silicone based hair serum and I can't believe how incredible the results have been! I too have waves that get weighed down, so I'm washing my hair anyway. I use the silicone primarily to scrunch out the crunch, and also to prevent moisture loss with how dry the air is this time of year. It does absolutely coat your hair, but quite frankly, that's something my high porosity hair needs to help prevent damage. Silicone is also a great heat protectant, and I absolutely cannot get the definition or volume I want without diffusing with heat
Not blonde but not brown either squad 🙋🏼♀️ lol
Mousey brown, dirty blonde club 😬😩 it's lovely in the summer when the sun brings out the natural highlights tho
Me tooo!! Such a mousey color but it’s nice in the summer!
Alyssa Zak you’re hair is light brown in the profile pic
your
Looked at your profile pic-your hair is light brown.
This video is amazing! I started the CGM almost 2 years ago and over time I realized alot of the steps they recommend you to follow hurt my hair and curl pattern. I love my "lazy" curly girl method!
Brooke Cox precisely !! lol the “lazy girl curly method” is what I follow too 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Life gets so hectic and ain't nobody got time for all that mess. ❤️
Yes and I realize that I was being a slave of my hair again! All those products, all that time, all that trash!
please tell me what that method is. everyday my hair is different!
Same
A good conditioner, curly cream with a primer and scrunch while really wet, put clips at root to lift, let almost dry and use diffuser to complete drying , take out clips and style with hands. The end. I have had curly hair all my life and got sick of trying to make it straight, this works for me and isn't that difficult.
I was silicone free and sulfate free for years and my hair literally broke off at the shoulder (had nearly waist length hair) and it thinned out. My fine delicate wavy hair knots too easily without the slip of silicones and it breaks off without the coating protection of silicones. Everyone also said to do coconut oil masks and that made my hair brittle and break off too. 2 years into recovering my hair and I am anti coconut oil and pro silicones and my hair is full soft and getting long. I use olive oil and mayonnaise for hair masks. Silicones haven’t prevented my hair from being moisturized properly. It is silkier now than it was sulfate and silicone free.
TLDR: No-poo made my hair fall out, switching back to sulfate shampoo stopped my hair loss in its tracks, and it’s growing back.
I don’t know if my story will help you, but while I didn’t use Devacurl products, I DID follow a no-poo method, using Dr Bronners soap followed with a cider rinse, as well as a very lovely-smelling cowash.
So basically, my hair fell out in ROPES, and I did think it was a lot, but I never realized how much I was actually losing until one day I decided to pincurl my hair after a couple of years of not doing so. So what normally would take the better part of an hour because of all my hair wound up taking less than 30 minutes. And as I was doing it, I could tell how much LESS hair I had. Wtf??
So in a fit of fear, I decided to count the hairs I lost during my shower (I cleaned out everything first, brush and drain, then put down a fine net to catch the hairs). I was losing almost ONE THOUSAND hairs! The average loss is about 150 hairs or so a day. But even calculating that, I was easily losing much more than average.
I took my hair and went to the doctor, had a ton of bloodwork done, and it was completely inconclusive. Btw, definitely keep the fallen hair, because the dermatologist can tell a lot from the root, she was glad I brought the massive snarl. She asked me if there was anything I was doing in my daily life, and I immediately thought of my no-poo routine.
So the next time I showered, I used a sulfate shampoo, and of course I lost a lot. But I also decided to wash every two or three days instead of four or five. And by the 3rd shower, my loss was back to normal, just a small amount. It’s been that way ever since.
Shampooing is about taking care of your *scalp* more than it is about your hair, and no-poo/non-sulfate was causing my follicles to be gummed up and thus causing hair loss. Or so I think. But it’s recovering, and I do follow some of the CGM styling tips.
Btw, I’m Caucasian, menopausal, with what I think is 2b/2c hair, but it’s getting curlier as I get older, it used to be just somewhat wavey.
Thank you. I've been transitioning all week since being home, and the knots and tangles are insane. I've been avoiding the silicones but I don't even use this much product when I wore it straight, so it's been a struggle. I don't even remember using this much product when I had perms in the 80s. I'll try my silicone tomorrow and see if it helps. The creams and gels and crunchy spots are driving me insane. And I never gave up my brush. Ever.
I like coconut oil but it is not for all hair types definitely.
Maybe because it’s the curly girl method, not the wavy curl method. Supermarket products are already made for your type of hair. Don’t try to get curlier than your are. You don’t know what real dry curly hair is
Modest Makeover I switched back to sulfates and silicones too. But I do use coconut oil !
You probably get tired of people telling you that you have beautiful eyes! What a blessing God has given you.
Okay but that intro... iconic.
Samantha Cruz LOL 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m such a lameo
Curly hair has its own brain.
Or at least mine does.it sometimes has is own zip code.
Mine does especially In humidity.
All my friends curly hair needs different things at different times of the year. I can't go with the curly girl method completely. My hair won't agree to this. Do what is good or works for you. Love your honesty and love your videos. Keep them coming:)
solitaire smith SUCH AN ACCURATE COMMENT 😂
@Ava Brooks so white girls dont have curly hair?
Ava Brooks wavy hair is NOT straight hair!!!! It’s in the middle of straight and curly.
@Ava Brooks yikes! Literally every race and ethnicity has curly hair. You can't even see the hair of the person you replied to. It's crazy you think only black people have curls.
@@TheLg1985 I'm white. My hair is curly. Not that color matters
Co-washing had my scalp full of buildup daily. I had to use a clarifying shampoo more than once you get rid of all the conditioner plus hair product. And weekly deep conditioning had my hair weighed down. My hair is high porosity and needed more protein more often than deep conditioner
YES my head itches a lot from all that stuff!
Co wash is more for women who has coarse hair like myself who’s hair tends to get dry through the week. It just helps put moisture into your hair until you make it to your wash day. Because obviously our hair has low porosity. That’s who it was made for. It’s made to replenish moisture to your hair. Ppl should be cleansing their hair with sulfate free shampoo once a week unless your hair falls more under the kinky type. So looking from your picture of your hair is high porosity and it’s easier for you to get moisture into your hair then you should not be co washing. Your hair can not take all of that product. That’s why your hair would get weighed down so much. You’ll be fine if you had your wash day and as the days go past just refresh your curls with water and reactivate the product you already have in. Therefore you get your volume and a little bit more moisture then if you need a little bit of extra product just use a dime size amount of leave in conditioner and cuff it on to your ends and continue your regular routine. Idk of you use a blow dryer or one of those natural gels to cuff your ends after the leave in. But lastly let it air dry or blow dry on cool whatever you use then boom. You’ll have the moisture and volume you want. From your picture I can tell co washing is definitely not for your hair type.
@@leilagiuwohali9768 you're right I am high porosity, but when I started on my curly journey I had no idea. I was following many girls who recommended co-washing and tried it and it didn't work for me. But now I see why it didn't.
@@leilagiuwohali9768 you can't tell if someone has low or high porosity hair from a picture unless the hair is extremely damaged. This lady's hair looks fine and you would not know unless you did a porosity test in person. Anyone no matter the hair texture can have high or low porosity. It depends on what they use and their personal genes. What you're saying is bullshit.
L L if you can’t tell by the eye if someone has high porosity or low porosity hair then you’re dumber than I would figure. Y’all make stuff harder than it really seems lmao. Here let me break down for you in a realistic way so your brain can play catch up because obviously this woman herself admitted she had low porosity hair because her hair takes up too much moisture to even use a co wash.... because anyone who knows curlyhair products... knows that’s co washes are thick as fuck and not so much water based. AKA MEANING THEY WERE MADE FOR TO PENETRATE WOMEN WITH LOW POROSITY HAIR. That’s like saying you pick up a hair product from the shelf and then as you’re looking at the product you’re testing it to see if the product is thick or more water based. I can tell from this woman’s hair that moisture for her is easier to penetrate her hair vs a female who is a 4c or who has my texture.... so sorry to tell you that’s common sense. So what you’re saying is bullshit. The shit isn’t rocket science which is why so many females were lead wrongly. Listening to all these supposedly “curly gurus” who don’t even listen to their own hair. Instead they’re going off of what’s trending so whoever said you can’t tell if someone has high porosity or low porosity just by looking at their hair and taking estimate guess knowing what products will work for them is a got damn lie. Stop listening to the media. It’s common sense. I mean .... HOW ELSE YOU THINK MY HAIR IS FLOURISHING??? I stopped listening to the media. Have a nice day. I’ll take my own words than listening to these damn you tubers who are having these women hair fall out. Thank you, 😎
"Volume. That's what I choose for my life."
Preach.
So happy I am not the only one backing away from the curly method!! People always shame you for it!
Xiomara x • those must be people within the cgm community. Outside that bubble, I feel like most people have no clue about sulphates, parabens, silicons or 3c/4abc curl patterns etc.
Says to take a shot of water every time she says “curly girl method” then proceeds to not say it again until the end of the video...😒 I took a sip every time she said curls instead 😁
I just read that when she said it 😂
Tamara Stelmakhova OMG I WAS LITERALLY ABOUT TO COMMENT THE EXACT SAME THING!!! Except I did sulfates and silicones as well 😂
THIS CONTENT IS ☕️☕️
High porosity coarse wavy hair and silicones are BFFS btw 💃💃
Sulfate or sulfate free as well. As long as I get volume and clarifies very well
Same! 🙋
Same!!!
I have high porosity coarse wavy hair and I’m thinking of going back to silicones.
WHAT! thank you I needed this information
corliss825 Some salon brands have sulfates in them and they do not strip to the point of feeling uber dry and brittle because of other high quality ingredients being in them😊 plus, when you only wash 2x a week, then you need a good cleanse anyways. I follow up with a mask like living proof restore treatment too. biosilk serum is amazing too as a frizz fighter
The only “rules” I follow of the cgm is
No sulfates
No silicones
No parabens
Then I guess no straightening, brushing and using a micro fibre towel but I’ve done those my whole life
You might be the first curly girl I've heard/seen say they never straighten their hair their whole life lol most people say that straightened their hair a lot when they were younger
Why do people bash parabens without actually knowing how they work? It’s ignorant. Parabens are actually one of the safest preservatives out there but obviously brands need your coin so sis DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
Vivian West They are literally linked to disrupted hormones in the body and can harm fertility and reproductive organs, affect birth outcomes, and increase the risk of cancer.
@@bailey9896 watch Dr dray's video
I want to start the car to get my food do you know what shampoo so I can get with no silicone is no parabens No sulphates thanks
Yesss please do a purple shampoo review :) love you!!
THANK YOU for being a real person. Nothing that requires me to stop dyeing my mousy brown hair to jet black is happening so I totally get not compromising on coloring your hair just because a pseudo-hair religion says so.
Going silicone and sulfate free in shampoo and conditioners is one thing (minus hard water shampoo twice a month, non-negotiable as a renter with hard water). No more wonderful Korean and Japanese hair serums and masks and even some Western salt sprays because of a smoothing agent? Not happening. I see it like skincare and aging. Would I look younger if I never went to the beach, did not drink, and ate only healthy food? Sure, but life is meant to be lived and enjoyed. Minus an allergy or sensitivity, we shouldn't be letting one ingredient in a product we otherwise like ruin our lives. Curly Girl and the skincare fragrance police just make skincare and hair not fun, which it should be
Can you do a updated version of your hair routine? I would like to know how you go about brushing your hair. Because I also lose so much hair in the shower. 🙈
I second that request. I'm a bit confused on what you do now.
me too, i need all the help i can get
@@corliss825 I did too! I use Monat products now and they are FAB for curly girls! Let me know if you'd like to know more and I can get you some products! Instagram: rohwery
@@Jindabyne I use Monat products now and they are FAB for curly girls! Let me know if you'd like to know more and I can get you some products! Instagram: rohwery
@@TheTinydawg I use Monat products now and they are FAB for curly girls! Let me know if you'd like to know more and I can get you some products! Instagram: rohwery
I don’t have extremely curly hair, but I did look into the cgm. I was a bit taken aback by all the rules and such. Curly hair is not a one size fits all thing. Some girls have fine curls and some have kinky, coarse curls. Do whatever works for your hair.
I’m on the blonde hair train as well. I feel most confident and myself with blonde hair. I tried to embrace my dirty blonde/light brown hair when I first started the CGM. But once I brought the blonde back I finally felt like myself again! 💜💁🏼♀️
I’m allergic to most curly girl and non curly girl products which is why I’ve spent a lot of time making homemade hair cadre products for my hair, that make my hair manageable but not always presentable. Normally I do a fantastic job of making them if I’m not living or staying with women or families that hate me and literally want my hair torn out. I’m looking for ways to increase volume and not have all my hair go down the drain but also not break the budget, and that I can quickly and easily make in the kitchen to fit my schedule. I used to always be working really hard to straighten my hair making recipes that were high in aloe Vera and coconut oil. I spent a lot of time on it when I did it, but it made the rest of my life way easier than modern brushes and shampoos with the chemicals and smells that I find nauseating. I’m looking a curly girl method for a fine/medium wavy hair type with normal porosity. I’m considered in between wavy and “normal fine hair”. But the modern shampoos have caused a lot of breakage as well as a ton of unmanageable frizz. I’ve used a lot of traditional Indian herbal straightening recipes that make people think my hair is “normal”. My hair looks worse than a curly girl without casting gel when I don’t do the straightening herbs and so I would like to try wavy in the hopes that my hair will look good and not be as time consuming as the straightening method or as expensive or chemical feel and smell as the curly girl method is for sensitive people like me. I have a lot of allergies and sensitivities and enjoy making things myself that don’t take to much time. I love your channel. Thank you in advance.
The reason there is less hair in the shower is because it's in your brush. I specifically brush my hair before I shower for that explicit reason. You're still losing the same amount of hair.
I occasionally straighten my hair! Sometimes I need a change and I literally have 0 difference to my curls when I go back to curly! I followed CGM for 2 years honestly I see no difference from now where I no longer follow it! My hair feels forced alot to, with all the routines and changing routines all the time, figuring out what my hair wants, so having that break and just straightening is needed.
Im a natural blonde finally stopped dying my hair a couple years back. Im now back to 100% natural "in between" colour and actually love it now :) Each to their own though. :)
I totally agree with starting with CGM to learn what your hair REALLY needs. Once you get that figured out, you can discern which rules actually benefit your specific head of hair. Due to hard water and the fact that my hair was constantly over moisturized even with the lightest conditioner and tons of protein, I've started using a harsher shampoo and don't care about drying alcohols. But if I hadn't been through the CGM, I never would've figured all of that out or restored my curls after years of straight up neglecting my hair.
My hair recently decided to be curly again lol. It’s gone back and forth from curly to basically straight with a little wave since I was a little kid even with the same basic hair care routine. So right now I’m just starting the curly girl method, I’ve been doing it for about a month now I believe. I’m liking the results but I’m probably gonna okay around with some “unorthodox” methods as well to see what works for me. So right now I’m strictly doing cgm but probably not for long.
Hannah Frymire it’s really good to start out but once your hair is used to it you can stray
Zerita McAtee Oh okay. Thanks!
I'm also a wavy. It would make sense that we could get away with fewer of the rules, since we are in between straight and curly
I mean, I use a low-poo and I occasionally use a wide tooth comb, but I still consider myself following CGM. I feel like the most important rules for CGM involve choice of ingredients in products: no sulfates, silicones, waxes, drying alcohols, etc. I also feel like CGM is more of an overall lifestyle rather than something you can never deviate from - kind of like if you normally eat really healthy but you eat cake on your birthday and on your family’s/friend’s birthdays, you know? Having cake once in a while doesn’t make you unhealthy, and overall your lifestyle IS very healthy, just like bending CGM rules once in a blue moon isn’t going to undo all your CG progress, you know? So I don’t stress if, for example, I’m traveling, forget a product, and have to use a silicone conditioner until I get home, but overall I’d still consider myself as following the method. Just my thoughts I guess!
Edit: I also didn’t know the curlygirl handbook banned all alcohols? That’s def true what you said about drying vs. fatty alcohols, and I guess why it’s always better to understand the science behind an ingredient instead of blindly following blanket rules! One of my pet peeves is when people say something like “oh this product was so drying for me, and no wonder! It’s full of alcohols!” And I’m like “GIRL those are all moisturizing, fatty alcohols!” 😑 end rant 😂
We all have different hair, and scalps! What works for one may not for another! Even life and its events can change your hair! Up until about 10 years ago, my scalp was oily! I wouldn't be able to "co-wash", or go days and days without washing my hair (unless I hid my hair under a hat, or in an up-do!)!! I'm 58 yrs old, now, and I've been enjoying "co-washing"! My scalp and hair don't feel as dry when I do!!
Mmmm, CAKE!!!
i'm also not willing to give up colouring my hair! so it's a little more damaged, i'll live with it
Nobody's curly hair is the same as another's. Honestly I think my hair looked better when I want so conscious of using silicone and sulfates!! We try to improve what's already good and it's like ruining a perfect recipe. So I think the curly girl method is just fine for those who like it yet it can be tweaked to fit each individual. Thanks for the video India.
There a probably a hundred reasons why hair color is needed. I highlight 3 times a year because my hair turned white (I’m a senior citizen) in the front but at the point of the top or the ears it was a faded brown to the end of scalp. I waited for years for the white to progress. Not gonna happen. It’s just weird and more phoeny looking than an old goth girls hair. So while I’m not thrilled, I can’t see another way to look normal. 😵💫
I have type 2 b/c curly hair. I use a cleansing conditioner most days when i need a deeper clean i use a lather shampoo with no sulfate in it and conditioner with no silicons or parabens. After i get out the shower i dry with a microfiber towel or t shirt. Styling depends on where im going and what im doing. But most regular days it’s just wash and go with a lit bit of leave in conditioner. Fancy days..lol its a styling cream or gel! One good deep conditioner is a must have and your favorite oils. Mine is jojoba! That’s my favorites for my curly hair!
I follow CGM rules but only the ones that makes sense. Sulfate-free shampoo, Triple Kerstin Conditioner, Styling Cream, Curly hair gel I only use this four and my hair is in its best state. I also don't use brush instead I use wide tooth comb and only do it in the shower. Lastly, I use silk scrunchie with silk pillow or silk hair cap while sleeping. I follow only this, this is the resl game changer for me. Nothing more, nothing less
Yes, yes, and yes.
You're practically my hair twin and I started the CGM a few years ago after getting a pixie cut thanks to an incompetent hair stylist (highlights gone bad)
So I started over and embraced my natural and it was great for a while. But my hair is really fine and thin and almost like yours in every way. But now it is below my shoulder blades and weighted down. Using curly approved "shampoos" and conditioners made it look dirty ALL the time, and limp, and flat. I had to change products all the time in order for it to have any effect anymore. I also can't NOT brush my hair. Like you said, it seems like I was shedding WAY too much and that is because all of my shed hair was being held in place by my curl pattern and they all came out in the shower. So brushing before washing meant my shed hair was coming out in my brush.
Its just not meant for oily fine hair.
I completely agree, that volume is better than hard looking curls. I have watched so many hair videos in the past year. I have learned that I want a simplified process that has fullness and soft curls. Letting my hair grow out layers has not been as simple or cost saving- because of looking for more volume and body on straight to wavy hair. I think steam curling, or a wavy perm will be simpler and less worrying. Thanks for your upbeat and funny videos.
I’m a new curly girl. Over the past few months my hair has gone wavy. My hair care professional says it was probably due to some sort of hormone change. I’m sixty-one. I totally agree with you that the curly girl method is a great place to start. I’ve learned so much from your videos about hair and makeup. Keep up the wonderful work you do. Plus I love watching your funny faces and listening to your hilarious comments.
That’s the issue that I’m having right now. I’ve cut out sulfates and silicones but have noticed that even though my hair is more defined and shiney, yes it’s flat. And it’s driving me nuts. I’ve thought about going back to my normal shampoo but I just don’t know yet. It’s driving me crazy though. My hair is super thin as it is. And being flat makes it look worse.
Ashley White mine is SUPER flat and thin. I don’t know what to do. Even my sister commented today saying how thin and flat it looked. So it’s not just me seeing it. Let me know if you find a solution.
Abby Robinson, I definitely will! Right now I feel like I need to go back to my normal shampoo. I’m trying really hard to hold out though. But I feel like I need to wash my hair more so now since I’ve switched shampoos. My hair gets super oily very quick with the sulfate free shampoo I’m using. It literally looks like someone poured baby oil in my hair after only two days. I had only been washing my hair twice a week as it was. But now I feel like I wash it more because I stand the oil and the flatness of it. It’s very frustrating.
Ashley White same with my hair, i really wanted to try the cgm but when i did, i didnt notice amazing results that lasted long. Although, 1-2 times when i washed my hair it turned out amazing but I might try going back to my pantene conditioner and shampoo and seeing how it works !
Evelyn Chao, that’s the problem I’m having. I’m going to have to wash my hair soon and might just use my regular shampoo and conditioner. The cgm is an awesome thing I think. It’s just not working for my hair personally. My hair is very curly naturally and also very thin. I just hate that it looks so flat while trying to do the cgm. Being so thin sucks enough without it looking so flat all the time. I need some volume! 😂
My hair gets flat if I don't sulphate shampoo every so often. I used a sulphate shampoo once or twice a month (sometimes more, sometimes less depending on what my hair needs). Maybe play around with doing a sulphate shampoo every second or third wash?
I have flat, super straight and fine hair so I have no idea why I’m watching this video but I’m still interested😂
Alexzandra Gardner haha, same!
Sher-i Lynut so lucky :(
Yaya Martinez I’m lucky? Sis, flat stringy hair is not it! 😘
But I am glad I never had to deal with Deva Curl!
My cousin has naturally curly hair and I’ve always been super jealous of her 🤩
I am SO GLAD I stumbled upon your video!
I agree with EVERYTHING you say, I'd used CGM for YEARS, and it was nice in the beginning but after a while my hair became really limp and it ruined my curl pattern! NOT TO MENTION it made my hair fall out!
Now the only rule I basically follow is the 'no sulfates, parabens and silicones', but I honestly prefer my own catered 'lazy girl' method! I honestly think its so much better to find what works with your hair and not just follow what everyone else says since everyone's curls are so different!
Your eyes are like 🤪💎🤪💎
*kinda jealous*
Prankster gangster 🥰💙💙💙💙
Yeahh! SHE HAS VERY BEAUTIFUL EYES!! ❤❤❤
I watch quite a few youtubers with wavy/curly hair and you Melanie Thompson are the only two who’s product recommendations work for my hair. My hair loves every single thing you recommend. I really appreciate it!
This makes me feel so much better. I always feel so pressured to go by the curly girl method.
Despite CGM, please don't comb hair after shampoo if u wanna save ur hair. ALWAYS DRY COMB BEFORE SHAMPOO. Trust me on this one. It'll just distribute your scalp oil all over the strands ... And ofcourse you're going to shampoo after that you don't have to worry about the results of dry comb.
Your hair will thank you of you dry comb before shampoo. Go from "less hair in the drain" to "no hair in the drain". 😊
I use sulfates too. But try to avoid silicones in my styling products. I could never be down with the no brushing either. I could never get used to it. It's so much better to detangle with a brush. So I've never been fully committed to the curly girl method.
Girl! I would love to hook you up with Monat products! They are FAB for curly girls! Plant based and all natural! Let me know if you'd like to know more and I can get you some products! Instagram: rohwery
I'm the same, I prefer volume way more over defined, tigh curls. Some of the girls that promote the curly girl method like Swavy Curly Courtney have such a wet look that I am not going for at all. I love 80s style, wavy/curly hair and it was all about volume then.
I’m still very new with curly girl method. But I dye my hair.....red....lol....I have changed my wash times. I wash my hair once a week and deep condition once a week and I can definitely see a change in my hair. I haven’t done “the big chop” cause uhhh I just love my hair lol.
GOODNESS, U LOOK STUNNING! FABULOUS HAIR N MAKEUP!
I’m very interested in a more detailed video about being a blonde who gets highlights but also embraces their natural curl. I’m one of those girls too sister!
Me listening to the rules: okay, sounds reasonable so far.
"Quit brushing your hair."
Girl, hell no. I might try cgm, but there is absolutely no way that I'm going to quit brushing. 😂
Jayde O how do you manage to brush your hair lmao I can barely get a brush through mine
Simonella brush it in the shower when it’s fully wet
@@popprinrose i prefer a wide tooth comb
@@popprinrose girl my hair gets hella tangled at night 😂 even if I brush it when wet in the evening
@@ellapeeweejones156 Brush from the bottom and up, 1 patch at a time.
I gave up too! I found the CGM to take FOREVER to dry and then even when I scrunched I had a kind of wet look I wasn’t living for. Maybe I’ll go back to it in the summer! Thanks for a video I can really relate to! ❤️🙏❤️
Omg I feel the same way about the curly girl method I loved it at first and after while my hair got worse. Especially the hair loss in the shower I was getting bald spots from not using a brush.
your fluffy hair looks amazing. love this look
So, I know nothing about the CGM but I have learned that sulfates cause massive amounts of build up on my scalp and because of that I do have to stop using shampoos with them unless absolutely necessary.
I always wondered if I was supposed to be losing so much hair when I detangled in the shower. I recently started brushing my hair according to Curly Penny's advice and my hair is soft for days, meaning I don't have to detangle as much anymore and risk losing lots of hair. It's so good to know you had a similar experience!
I dye my hair, but I have super fine hair and I've found when it's dyed or bleached I really prefer that texture. Also, you're still losing the same amount of hair. When we stop brushing and combing our hair the hair that naturally falls out every day just stays in with your curls. It has a lot harder time finding its way to the floor. Brushing allows you to get all that hair that naturally sheds every day. I also had to go back to condish with amodimethicone in the winter.
greta 26 Same. I need a little damage to rough up my hair to get any type of volume
I follow the CGM, but I’m also not 100% compliant. I still have to wash my hair every other day, because my hair and scalp are naturally oily. I also dry brush my hair every day. Oh, did I mention, I recently got a PERM! My natural hair texture is 2a/b, but now I’m a 2c/3a! I still try to avoid sulfates, silicones, parabens, and drying alcohols. And lately I’ve been trying to avoid excess glycerin because it is most definitely winter where I live (western Pennsylvania). I do really like the NYMN yellow and dark blue lines, as well as the Curl Talk Curl Cream and Defining Gel.
Wavy hair here 2b/2c. I wanted to try the CGM, but really, it's way to much. I baby my hair. It's been virgin for 15 years. A week and half ago I got it bleached and dyed a magnificent velvet purple. My hair is healthier now, because I've been using salon quality products (Biolage Colorlast Shampoo and Conditioner and the Colorlast Apricot hair mask). I switched all my hair products to Biolage. My color is barely faded and it's been washed 3 times.
I have 2 B/C hair. I use sulfate shampoo but tresseme conditioner and I have virgin hair and use very little heat. I would love to find a silicone free conditioner so that I can get away from using sulfate shampoo everytime I wash my hair. Some times I can get away with using a CG approved shampoo. I use leave a small amount of leave in conditioner and it does help with my tangles.
I follow Manes by Mel RUclips channel. Her advice & techniques have had thee best short & long term effects on my 2b waves/curls (they’re 2c curls when I don’t highlight 😬). Her hair is considerably thicker & much more curly than mine but she’s also an amazing professional hairdresser/stylist -especially for curly hair. Not all stylists know how to cut & treat curly hair but she does (& yes there are some things that are quite different from how you might cut or treat straighter hair) & I’ve learned a lot from her videos over the past 8-9 mos. She explains so many important, useful & helpful things regarding all types of curly/wavy hair that most stylists either don’t know or have forgotten since being in school. So no, I don’t follow the Curly Girl method completely but there are some things that I definitely do follow - & plopping definitely isn’t one of them lol! Bcz plopping equals a frizzy mess with no curl clumps for this girl!
Whats your routine?
So relieved to hear your thoughts and applications of the Curly Girl method because I have the same hair issues you mentioned! I am blonde but turned ash in my twenties...have to highlight to maintain my Goldie locks too! Need sulphates to cut the GREASE :-P !
I break some rules too!! I just love being blonde way too much to sacrifice the bleach. BUT I religiously don't use any silicone to make up for it. I do the once a month sulfate cleanse too (with purple shampoo for 2-in-1).
rachelb1555 what purple shampoo do you love ??
@@indiabatson26 Joico Color Balance Purple!!!
India you have to try the Remington Tangle Tamer. It's a battery powered brush that kind of vibrates and removes tangles like nothing else without losing hair. It's so amazing. I got mine on Amazon 😍
Steffi P ooooh I havnt heard of this ?!?! 🤩
Look on Amazon. Now calling it Remington wet or dry tame the mane electric detangling brush. $20.99. It’s so good the vibration goes through the hair without ripping it. I use it before I wash.
I use this on my 4 year old. Game changer.
I think Milabu did a review of it too
lovinganewlundy there are reviews on RUclips. 👍🏻👍🏻
India, you have such a sparkling personality and you are a joy to look at. Your videos are always a real pleasure. I dye my hair and I use sulfate shampoo to get the dye out, so when I know I will be dying my hair and using a sulfate shampoo, that's the one time I use silicones ha ha! Great video - thank you for your refreshing honesty.
Are you getting paid to sponsor NYM or would you recommend this if you were not?
I was curious about this too so I checked the description and yep- looks like this video is sponsored.
She does say thank you NYM for sponsoring this video
Yeah this whole video is just an ad for not your mother's.... Most of their products aren't CGM approved, also.. because they contain sulfates and silicones.
I am 53 (yikes!!) and have in the last year (finally heeding the advice of my fabulous stylist) been trying to 'embace my wave/curl'. Started with the CGM, but am finding fault & things that I personally don't like. Just stumbled across your videos & let me say, you are AWESOME!! Thanks so much & keep 'em coming! ❤️❤️
I’m 48, you’re in good company! 🤗
I left the curly girl method long ago as well.
CGM made my curls shiny and very defined, but it caused build up on my scalp and made it itchy, it also reduced the volume.
After I stopped it and started washing my hair with shampoo properly, and using less products, my scalp has been feeling waay better, my hair is still shiny and defined and has more volume which I love x3
Now I just make sure I cut my hair regularly, and use hair masks and a good conditioner to keep it healthy
I'm a baby chemist in undergrad, so I'm no expert, but I wanted to add my two cents. Not all sulfates are created equally! It's about concentration! It's about the literal type of sulfate! It's a class of chemicals, it's not like all of them are the exact same thing or clean with the exact same strength. Think about alcohol, we can generally ingest a few 5% ABV ethanol beers and not die, but if you drank the same quantity of methanol, butanol, etc you would die way before you finished your drink. These are compounds that differ by a CH2 group or two, and yet they react in massively different ways with our bodies in the same concentrations. Some sulfates may be too stripping for you, but that doesn't mean that all of them are. Or maybe you picked up a shampoo that was too highly concentrated (they don't put concentration on the label, they don't even have to list the ingredients in order, it's just convention). Or maybe all sulfates are too stripping for you, that doesn't mean they are all too stripping for your fellow curly girls. Thank you so much India for being so supportive generally of all types of hair journeys. It's super helpful and super uplifting. I could go on about silicones as well and relative solvation in water, but I already feel a tad ridiculous so Imma just leave it here.
Marcy Snyder Some CG’s do use sulfates just the less harsh ones :)
I'm exactly like you!! I do follow a lot of the cgm rules like I try not to use sulfates/silicones (but ngl I do occasionally use a sulfate shampoo to get rid of build every now and then) and I also HAVE to brush my hair, I've tried finger detangling and combing before and it just doesn't work for me. I have very thick hair that gets tangled easily so I need a brush. I also have to wash my hair with shampoo, I wash my hair with shampoo like once week and then cowash every few days. There's no way I can just get away with cowashing all the time, I've tried it before and just cowashed but it really weighed my hair down and I got a lot of build up.
Thanks for making this video btw, it's nice to know other people don't follow it religiously because I felt like I was the only one! 🤣 Also your hair is looking SO pretty and voluminous!!!
‘More hair on my head, less hair in the drain’ 🎶 😂😂😂 Love your videos! Love Bianca too! Nice shout out to her! Water in the tub container happens to me too AND the am/pm alarm. Been there done that and changed my alarm to 24 hour clock annnnd still did it 😑. Much love girlie!❤️❤️
Thank you so much. I’ve been struggling so much with trying to keep my curls nice and get them back with the cgm. Thank you for showing me it’s ok to not agree with all of it and you don’t have to feel bad from it. This past summer it kept me out of swimming in pools and the ocean. Thank you for helping me reclaim my life.
I lose a lot of hair while shower detangling too. I thought I needed time to adjust, but I'm stopping that right now. Phew.
Here's the rules I follow and they are still working just fine
1- I don't brush by hair dry so I don't need a comb to detangle
2-I shampoo my hair with a sulfate free silicone free paraben free
3- Obviously same goes for conditioner and I would use a hydrating mask once a week and a protein mask once a month
If your hair is chemically treated then use more protein into your routine
Also... bleach can't kill your hair since your hair is dead cells...what it does is it breaks it and gives it split ends and it makes your hair's ability to hold moisture so much worse than it already is for curly hair
You can use silicone as long as you see tricedth 12 or 13 I don't really remember and cetermonium chloride these two make some silicones water soluble so you won't need to use sulfates...just try to use products that have dimethicone sparingly
I attempted the curly curl method. Nothing has made me want to shave my head faster than that. It's just too much! And my hair hated it. I'm still learning how to deal with my waves, but I'm not using all those rules.
The wavy life is hard. We have to fight harder for our curls and I think it makes full on curly girl much harder to follow for us so I'm the same. Modified.
well there shouldn't be any fighting...your hair has a curl limit...so if it's not a certain texture it won't get that much defined
@@caL-ls2st to an extent. Product and technique can make a much larger difference. Wavy hair doesn't really walk out of the shower curly.
@@JLC61981 I will not make myself clear again...if you don't read correctly I have no time to argue.
@@caL-ls2st you're incredibly rude. You going away won't bother me any.
@@JLC61981 I'd appreciate the same.
I only follow bits and pieces of the CCM myself, I can't really follow all of it because my hair is so thin but curly and I find if I don't at least shampoo my hair, it gets super greasy and weighed down. And I sometimes choose to use sulfates with my shampoos, especially Head and Shoulders for dandruff occasionally.
I feel like the CMG is a base for beginners who have nowhere to start and have no idea how to take care of their hair. Following most of the rules has made my hair healthier and grow longer, but I'm barely getting the hang of feeling my hair and knowing what it wants, so I follow certain things and disregard others because they don't work for me. Everyone is different, but it's important to not do something for the rest of your life just because someone said so. Eliminate routines or products that are damaging your hair, then figure out what works for you on your journey to healthy hair.
I am on the beginning of my curly hair journey and am doing lots of research but started the CGM. Two weeks in and holy cow I have ZERO volume anymore. I feel like my curls looked better with the volume even though it was slightly more messy and less defined. Hopefully I will find a good routine soon!
I love this because I've been feeling the immense pressure to follow cgm. Thank you!
I’m not gonna lie the “hair fallout” amount is because of the tangoes from not brushing causes your hair that falls out to actually get stuck in those tangles
Apparently DevaCurl is getting into some issues though because quite a lot of people are reporting that their products are making people’s hair fall out. Not all CG brands, just devacurl
That’s what my hairdresser said when I asked why every time I washed my hair handfuls were coming out
I love your honesty about everything. I think everyone should do what works well for THEIR hair. There really is no "one size fits all" for any process in our bodies. Everyone has their own health issues, body chemistry and the way their body works around things. I personally can't follow CGM. I have psoriatic arthritis, with psoriasis in my scalp. The Paul Mitchell Tea Tree Shampoo helps control my symptoms. I'm with you, everyone should work their hair whichever way works best for them.
I totally agree! There isn't a one size fits all for anything in life
i'm so happy to hear you found something that helps with your psoriasis !!! that's amazing
Yes please!!! More tips on blonde hair!!! How often do you use the purple shampoo?? I love you and your videos help me so much!!😘😘 hugs from PR 🇵🇷
I used to cowash religiously but had to throw in the towel after two years. My hair started to fall out and my scalp began to burn, itch, and flake. Nothing I did curly girl approved worked so I went back to head and shoulders so now every other day I use the 2in1 dry scalp formula. My routine now is shampoo, condition with V05 passion fruit smoothie, sheamoisture curl enhancing smoothie for a leave in, and now I’m loving the Not Your Mother’s mousse! I don’t use a mask so definitely considering adding that to my routine but as of right now, this works for me. Keep up the good work!
Olaplex girl!!! Olaplex before every bleach treatment. You're welcome!!!💜
I think following the basics of no sulfates and silicones is the one part of the method I think is key to follow especially if you’re just starting out. But obviously it’s not going to work the same for everyone and there’s nothing wrong with taking things and modifying them to fit your hair. Personally I love how my 2B waves looked when they’re more defined so I’m happy to continue following the method as much as possible because my waves have never looked better in my life. But there’s nothing wrong with breaking away from some of the rules cause a lot of the strict CGM followers I’ve seen treat it like it’s a one size fits all method. Which is silly cause everyone’s hair is different and has different needs. I think the most important thing is to try to stay sulfate and silicone free as much as you can and there’s nothing wrong with straying away every now and again if you feel like a certain product might work out for your hair. Keep doing what you’re doing India!
I felt guilty this morning using a silicone oil when I STRAIGHTEN my hair 😳 but it really makes a difference when it’s humid outside and my hair soaks it up! Loved the video and will have to check out the Not Your Mother’s shampoo and product line! I definitely don’t follow the CG method entirely but have definitely been learning more and more about my curly hair as I get older since my gray hair comes in more curly!
the rules I break from the CGM are the fact that I colour my hair, even though I have switched to semi permanent vegan dye, which has the very same formula as any hair deep conditioner, and also I still shampoo with sulfates once a month, which I will stop when I run out of it and I need some sort of tool because my hair is abundant, type 3A-B and baby fine so it tangles by just looking at it! I believe it's all about the balance that works for YOU and adjusting the techniques to YOUR needs :) your hair is amazing btw!
I've been using CGM approved products since April, and my hair is so much healthier now! However, I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss some the old products I was "allowed" to use lol.
I basically do the Australian Curly Girl Method a lot of us dye our hair and share tips for the best ways to do it and of course using Olaplex No.3 helps a tonne. I co-wash my denman brush held vertically to detangle as finger or comb detangling takes WAY too long. Love love love the Everescents line, it's Australian, vegan, refillable and made sustainably. I will sometimes use the Bergamot Conditioner as a co wash and sometimes I use Goat Conditioner Lemon Myrtle as a co wash. Love the Cinnamon and Patchouli as a leave in conditioner and also use a local brand as my gel (Curlture moisture gel). Personally I really love CGM as my hair is healthier than ever and the Aussie method is way more forgiving. Also sleep in a pineapple with a silk pillowcase and I never use heat on my hair unless it's a diffuser. Oh and an old t shirt to scrunch our excess water