My Family came to America From Belfast. My Father Loved Jesus Christ, and we were Baptists, some of our neighbors were Catholic, Anglican, whatever. We all had differing political beliefs, Democrat, Republican etc. We all Loved Jesus and obeyed HIS commandment that we should LOVE one another dispite our differences. WAKE UP stop hating and start obeying. I cant believe you act so horrible towards each other, you are all Mocking GOD.
Maybe if they quit celebrating dividing holidays like the 12th of July and started celebrating uniting holidays like the day the Good Friday Accords were signed tensions would diminish.
If it is a problem then I agree that they should find a way to have a unified Easter celebration. Both religious groups believe in Easter. If they can't do it together then they must stop.
Dumb asses. Pascha is not a dividing holiday. it unifies billions of Eastern and Western Christians the world over. Ramadan unities millions of Muslims across the world. The 12 th of July is a holiday that gives sectarian bigots a chance to throw shit in the eyes of Catholics. At any chance 2000 years of celebrating the crucifixion, resurrection, and assumption into heaven trumps your barmaid holiday. If burning the Tricolour is not a sectarian act then I don; t know what is ...do you shits know the symbolism of the Tricolour.
Easter parade . Parading in IRA uniforms kids holding model automatic machine guns while his dad marches chanting fuck the Brits and so on seems likes a unifying event Sent from my iPad
No Northern Ireland will always have the 12th July it's not a racist holiday st Patricks is a racists holiday that's nothing even to do with our British country
@NornIronLocal I had a brief visit to belfast and I didn't notice any tension or division at all. It was a lovely place. I sound english and my friend was from the republic, we'd no trouble at all, everyone was extremely friendly, so right you are I say.
im from the area the aussie reporter said that the march was due to come up through the catholic area. it is not a catholic area it is a main road shared by both communities. why did he not show the protestants across the road from where he was reporting standing waiting on the parade. all we ask as protestants is fair reporting in this case this is not the case i challenge the reporter to tell what he saw
Thanks for your reaction. I was of course a bit generalizing here (based on the clips shown) I know that issues like this are much more complex. But the conflict is going on for decades now and it has brought nothing that misery, pain and sorrow and due to that it remained one of the poorest places in Western Europe, only recently has the economy picked up due to the conflict subsiding slowly.
these days the British couldn't care less about Irish unionists.. day's gone bye they may have needed them to form a government... the truth is, if the British could pull out of Ireland, they would, in a heart beat.. They have loyal subjects in Ireland.. who put them there? It's the same with the British the world over... their past exploits have come back to haunt them.. and will do for many many years to come...
Sad, sad in so many ways - great city Belfast. Great history and a lot of people of character. I visit from Liverpool often and enjoy the craic. Suppose as an outsider its easy to make judgement and say how things should/have to be. Maddening thing with humanity is a lot of people are not happy unless theyre in a fight, or fighting against something. Its hard to let go, especially when things run deep as in Belfasts situation. Hope REAL solutions are found for the great people of Belfast.
Well said Mersey boy great friendly people who u can ever meet have been through hell and back hopefully with time they’ll see sense and bring the walls down though it’s going to take a long long time a dare say 50 to 100 years away or in the middle a don’t think we will live to see it me personally in I’m 45 though not in good health so a definitely won’t see it though al be looking down smiling when ireland a nation Gaelic united and free it’s then we will see the rising of the moon🇮🇪32
I'll agree with that for the most part. However, the conflict has been a means to an end. Concentrating on the suffering just throws shadow on the positive things that it has done for us, for instance the abolition of gerrymandering, the introduction of mandatory education, equal work opportunities, and we're no longer occupied by a foreign army. For all the suffering that's gone before, I think it's been a price worth paying for the way we are now. Hopefully it's only going to get better!
@fidodido411 Is belfast safe to study? I'm not from there so I honestly don't know, I studied in Manchester and that's very ethinically mixed so you;d be fine there, i'd ask someone from belfast to be honest.
The mural artists are brilliant ( both sides). Going to come over to have a look at them. Are the official mural tours a rip off like most official ones? I'd rather just make my own way round. Danny and Mark are super talented lads.
+bascet1 Black Taxi Tours are most trustable, regards to both sides. Theyre part of the actual Murals. See Black Taxi Association Belfast website or www.taxitrax.com/contact/
snacklepuss You just work for them, i live right beside a wall, walk past it everyday and all i here is the same bullshit. I've even been told by other fellas at the depot that they talk from their holes.
to see those kids cry, horrible. Surely people in Northern Ireland believe that this certain eventuality that this will have to remain part of the British State is not worth fighting over. 40 years of conflict led to nothing but death.
I'm from a middle class family here, and I've done my share of rioting. Class has nothing to do with this. Rich or poor, we're all fighting for the same cause.
i live in belfast and apparently "the worst part" and it seems that the bitterness is passed down from generation to generation but each generation is becoming more and more open minded and they really dont care now only a very small number of people are still bitter its parents telling their kids to think this. some kids might ignore it and not care about it and some take everything in and develope the bitterness from what they are told so no i cant see it starting up again
It really is not to aggravate. Most of the time the route is the same as it has been for a century or more, before their were housing communities along those particular roads. The problem is that when one side demands something, even when it would be better to compromise, it makes the other side dig their heels in more. The other issue is that because both sides intimidate members of the other out of housing, particular areas have changed hands, so neither side will give an inch.
No NHS, no DHSS, joining the Euro and everything becoming extortionate. As a Nationalist myself I can see the benefits and the drawbacks are equally as evident
i don't understand.. why do the orange band (or whatever its called) have to march in the catlick area. don't they have their own area they could march? it seems antagonistic.
it is an awful shame that the peace process continues to be disrupted and fueled by thugs. One of the most important agreements in irish history and indeed a vital key to irelands foreign reputation.
nvr knew about this till my government throw me here to "further my study". i would be terrified to come here if i knew whats was going on back then. but, belfast is peace place now.
Saying I am sorry for Northern Ireland is an understatement. Where are the bridge builders... still building walls? Where is Europe ? ...... Ireland..?
'For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on. -Neo Con Jew Paul Wolfowitz, Vanity Fair interview May 28, 2003 'The CIA gave us bad intelligence.' ~George W. Bush, July 11, 2003 'Iraq did Not have the weapons our intelligence believed were there.' -Bush 2004 "We got it wrong. We have seen nothing to suggest that he had actual stockpiles." - Powell, Oct. 1, 2004
i think we should all just get along, there has been so much that has happened in the past and both sides have hurt eachother. Put the past in the past and give our children and the next generation a Northern Ireland/Ireland/United Kingdom where we can all get along
@fidodido411 UK cities are usually tolerant. If you are a student and going to hang out in areas that students frequent, you will find it enjoyable. Keep an open mind and you will enjoy your time there. :-)
I'm English but no way are these guys British. I respect them for standing up for what they beleive in but there deluded, noone I know would consider them British at all. Most true brits like myself are ashamed of Britians abusive past.
The end of that scares me. Seeing the flag burning. It's just hatred. From both sides. And if children are continually raised apart nothing will change.
King William did participate in any sort of pogroms against catholics during his short time in Ireland. In fact both he and James spent very little of their time in Ireland in the first place, so the vast majority of deaths caused by the Williamite war were the work of Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants fighting one another, using the names of the two kings as a useful cover for their conflict.
my father was killed in northern irland in 1987,i think i know everything about it. my father never wanted that iam a protestant or Katolik. so stop this fuckn war! it lives right now, every day, every minute.and it will never end. iam shure.
@jonnyc950 Totally agree. Having disagreements and/or coming from the other divide is one thing but petrol bombing children on their way to school is sickening
Imagine someone coming into your house and you tried and tried to get them out but they wouldn't leave. You begin my asking nicely and then eventually you retaliate. Everyone else is on their side yet you stand alone. Then once a year they burn your flag and celebrate the fact that they have taken part of your home. Would you want to associate with that person? Would you have hatred towards that person? If so how can you not have walls. There would be bloodshed and mayhem.
Actually the 12th July marches have for years given way to Catholic demands to change routes that they march, But Nationalists are never happy with any concessions that are given & are intent on little by little eroding any expressions of Loyalism ,the different cultures are just as important to each on both sides & so we should let each other express them without fear of attack, So to protect them there comes a point which enough is enough & capitulation stops this applies equally to all sides
@Leekduck as someone from a nation who has the union jack on our flag, I'd love if the british flag changed. I want to acknowledge my british and irish heritage, but we've nothing to do with the modern UK. So using the "old" flag would feel completely right to me, if that scenario was to occur.
Please, please, please people of the world - not all people in Northern Ireland are repersented by these images. Some of us got up of our asses and worked to keep these tramps - and are still keeping them.
Can somebody recommend me a good video here on youtube about the history of Ireland, Northern Ireland and the matters that lead to the situation as it is today? Thanks in advance!
And the walls are still there, gotten bigger, taller and longer. And they have outlasted the Berlin Wall. Nothing has changed. Different names, same shame. 2024 is coming.
hello catherine, im sorry but i dont understand most of this what you write? but please tell me what was years ago? but i do agree that people should be british if they choose but if your born in ireland then your irish. and im sorry but im not religious im an irish nationalist who wants my nation back of the british, if anything im looking to the future i see a day when the occupation ends and we can look after our own affairs whats wrong with that? TAL.
@mayeballs the peace wall what one there are loads of peace walls and as for there removal not a chance do you think the people of clonard or the shankill ardoyne short strand blacks road want them down its took years to get to were we are now there needs to be trust and that wont come anytime soon
People HATE Occupation. Northern Ireland has everything to do with Occupation, no religious per se. Irish fight off Occupation, and thats admireable, manly and just.
the boy at 6:07 replied very intelligently, if only catholics and protestants could think like that, not like the simple minded people the start throwing petrol bombs
While its true that for a long period catholics were treated like second class citizens, that was never the point of my argument. My point was that many of the areas that are now an issue have only become catholic areas in the recent past and that the parades have followed the same routes long before an area was catholic, or indeed in some instances before there was residential housing in the area.
even if the walls come down people wont just walk over and get along they will just get on with life and if some one killed when they are down all hell will start... get them up for another 20 years.
Religion is bullshit! Any mention of it as a factor in Ireland is irrelevant. Catholics and Protestants killing each other is ludicrous. I do know the history of Ireland genius. Great Britain is not going to give the northern six counties back to the Republic of Ireland, so individuals in the north need to get the fuck over it. You can't go back and change the past. Bad shit happened and people need to work together so it doesn't repeat itself.
Like I said in the beginning, the British needs to leave completely! Ulster's will still be Ulster's, the Irish will still be Irish, just won't have any British in all of Ireland! Ireland can take care of its own problems! If Britain won't leave on their own, FORCE THEM OUT! Whatever means necessary!They shouldn't have been in Ireland in the first place! People has the right to believe what they want to! Keep the wall up or take it down! It's still Ireland no matter Northern Ireland or Southern Ireland! If people wants to separate themselves from each other, so beit! Crossing over the bridge should still be done with high caution! Irish or Protestant! Yeah in the future the European Union/ United Nations so come up with their own "UNIVERSAL" religion! People can't get along, so "big brother" is going to play Savior! 🍀🔫🍀
Wow John, chuckling at this so much right now. Trying to hijack an ethnicity and political based conflict rooted in 400+ years of Irish history to spout your atheist views and pretend you know what you're talking about is hilarious. You are absolutely clueless beyond belief.
WTF are you talking about? I just stayed facts, unlike religious leaders. I didn't hijack anything. I know the history of the northern six counties, genius.
It's not about money, whose head is on what. It's about the cost of living and I know for a fact it is harder on the Euro as things stand. I'm not on the dole either, and as for the 200 Euro a week, you can get that here, all you need is a Southern address to use. The 200 Euro is set to be reduced in any case. There are no water charges here either, not yet anyway, while we also are entitled to grants, housing and healthcare. If onle you were as clued in as you thought you were.
Some Japanese tourists taking pictures of graffiti saying "Aidan McDaids mum loves the boaby" XD
unbelievable how skilled those Artists are excellent work
My Family came to America From Belfast. My Father Loved Jesus Christ, and we were Baptists, some of our neighbors were Catholic, Anglican, whatever. We all had differing political beliefs, Democrat, Republican etc. We all Loved Jesus and obeyed HIS commandment that we should LOVE one another dispite our differences. WAKE UP stop hating and start obeying. I cant believe you act so horrible towards each other, you are all Mocking GOD.
Marvellous piece of work again, congratulations to all at Journeyman Pictures.
Excellent documentary as usual from Journeyman, Thanks!
Maybe if they quit celebrating dividing holidays like the 12th of July and started celebrating uniting holidays like the day the Good Friday Accords were signed tensions would diminish.
And if republicans stopped celebrating the Easter parade which is just as dividing as the 12th
If it is a problem then I agree that they should find a way to have a unified Easter celebration. Both religious groups believe in Easter. If they can't do it together then they must stop.
Dumb asses. Pascha is not a dividing holiday. it unifies billions of Eastern and Western Christians the world over. Ramadan unities millions of Muslims across the world. The 12 th of July is a holiday that gives sectarian bigots a chance to throw shit in the eyes of Catholics. At any chance 2000 years of celebrating the crucifixion, resurrection, and assumption into heaven trumps your barmaid holiday. If burning the Tricolour is not a sectarian act then I don; t know what is ...do you shits know the symbolism of the Tricolour.
Easter parade . Parading in IRA uniforms kids holding model automatic machine guns while his dad marches chanting fuck the Brits and so on seems likes a unifying event
Sent from my iPad
No Northern Ireland will always have the 12th July it's not a racist holiday st Patricks is a racists holiday that's nothing even to do with our British country
Keep doing great docs, Journeyman!
The volume on this one, though, was a little inconsistent.
those murals are amazing
@NornIronLocal
I had a brief visit to belfast and I didn't notice any tension or division at all. It was a lovely place. I sound english and my friend was from the republic, we'd no trouble at all, everyone was extremely friendly, so right you are I say.
that's no fucking family event
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im from the area the aussie reporter said that the march was due to come up through the catholic area.
it is not a catholic area it is a main road shared by both communities.
why did he not show the protestants across the road from where he was reporting
standing waiting on the parade.
all we ask as protestants is fair reporting
in this case this is not the case i challenge the reporter to tell what he saw
wait to people shop and work in seperate areas as well??? might be a dumb question but which side is more fun ? more affluent? just curious
Intense but very sad. It's hard to be optimistic about such a divided community with such a history of conflict & hatred.
Thanks for your reaction. I was of course a bit generalizing here (based on the clips shown) I know that issues like this are much more complex.
But the conflict is going on for decades now and it has brought nothing that misery, pain and sorrow and due to that it remained one of the poorest places in Western Europe, only recently has the economy picked up due to the conflict subsiding slowly.
these days the British couldn't care less about Irish unionists.. day's gone bye they may have needed them to form a government... the truth is, if the British could pull out of Ireland, they would, in a heart beat.. They have loyal subjects in Ireland.. who put them there? It's the same with the British the world over... their past exploits have come back to haunt them.. and will do for many many years to come...
Sad, sad in so many ways - great city Belfast. Great history and a lot of people of character. I visit from Liverpool often and enjoy the craic. Suppose as an outsider its easy to make judgement and say how things should/have to be.
Maddening thing with humanity is a lot of people are not happy unless theyre in a fight, or fighting against something. Its hard to let go, especially when things run deep as in Belfasts situation.
Hope REAL solutions are found for the great people of Belfast.
Well said Mersey boy great friendly people who u can ever meet have been through hell and back hopefully with time they’ll see sense and bring the walls down though it’s going to take a long long time a dare say 50 to 100 years away or in the middle a don’t think we will live to see it me personally in I’m 45 though not in good health so a definitely won’t see it though al be looking down smiling when ireland a nation Gaelic united and free it’s then we will see the rising of the moon🇮🇪32
I'll agree with that for the most part. However, the conflict has been a means to an end. Concentrating on the suffering just throws shadow on the positive things that it has done for us, for instance the abolition of gerrymandering, the introduction of mandatory education, equal work opportunities, and we're no longer occupied by a foreign army.
For all the suffering that's gone before, I think it's been a price worth paying for the way we are now. Hopefully it's only going to get better!
A great post, very informative. Thanks for sharing.
@kevin45271 How did u respond to my comment on here when i posted it to someone elsse, u were on it right away\???
@oisinwillis how can you not know this? im from Holland and all this is just old news for me. what exactly do you mean by 'knew more' ?
This was really interesting to watch
@fidodido411 Is belfast safe to study? I'm not from there so I honestly don't know, I studied in Manchester and that's very ethinically mixed so you;d be fine there, i'd ask someone from belfast to be honest.
Nothing has really changed the conflict is still going on here
Is there such a thing as a " peace wall " ? We need the peace of GOD in our hearts .
The mural artists are brilliant ( both sides). Going to come over to have a look at them. Are the official mural tours a rip off like most official ones? I'd rather just make my own way round. Danny and Mark are super talented lads.
+bascet1 Black Taxi Tours are most trustable, regards to both sides. Theyre part of the actual Murals. See Black Taxi Association Belfast website or www.taxitrax.com/contact/
+bascet1 make your own way around and do your own thinking. The tour guides will fill you up with some serious bullshit.
John Lennon John YOURE a LIAR. I know 3 historians who work as taxidrivers and only charge the diesel money.
snacklepuss You just work for them, i live right beside a wall, walk past it everyday and all i here is the same bullshit. I've even been told by other fellas at the depot that they talk from their holes.
snacklepuss More like 3 ex gluebags who learnt a bit of history in jail and havent studied nothing else since. I'd love to see their history degrees.
to see those kids cry, horrible. Surely people in Northern Ireland believe that this certain eventuality that this will have to remain part of the British State is not worth fighting over. 40 years of conflict led to nothing but death.
I'm from a middle class family here, and I've done my share of rioting. Class has nothing to do with this. Rich or poor, we're all fighting for the same cause.
i live in belfast and apparently "the worst part" and it seems that the bitterness is passed down from generation to generation but each generation is becoming more and more open minded and they really dont care now only a very small number of people are still bitter its parents telling their kids to think this. some kids might ignore it and not care about it and some take everything in and develope the bitterness from what they are told so no i cant see it starting up again
I am from Northern Ireland and that guy at the start telling his story to the tourist is shameful...its utterly pathetic
Who would take their child into that situation ?? Its child abuse
very good film...good to hear it from both sides
It really is not to aggravate. Most of the time the route is the same as it has been for a century or more, before their were housing communities along those particular roads. The problem is that when one side demands something, even when it would be better to compromise, it makes the other side dig their heels in more. The other issue is that because both sides intimidate members of the other out of housing, particular areas have changed hands, so neither side will give an inch.
Utterly depressing!
No NHS, no DHSS, joining the Euro and everything becoming extortionate. As a Nationalist myself I can see the benefits and the drawbacks are equally as evident
i don't understand.. why do the orange band (or whatever its called) have to march in the catlick area. don't they have their own area they could march? it seems antagonistic.
Catlick lmao 🤣🤣 do not mean Catholic areas 🤦
is that young boy shouting "get your crack out" and 15:23? lol
as an irish catholic american,its verry sad.
this video is gonna make me watch a billion other fuckin belfast documentaries ....cant get enough of this shit
Um, nobody has any lack of freedom..
And nobody has been deprived of land...
Awk that wee school at the end is my youngest brothers school how strange,youre randomly browsing on youtube and that happens,wierd times
you have not sent me any vids lately my basque friend keep them coming. everone has there part to play', bobby sands.TAL.
it is an awful shame that the peace process continues to be disrupted and fueled by thugs.
One of the most important agreements in irish history and indeed a vital key to irelands foreign reputation.
Very sorry, I like your comments and meant to give you a thumbs up. You made some good points.
nvr knew about this till my government throw me here to "further my study". i would be terrified to come here if i knew whats was going on back then. but, belfast is peace place now.
Saying I am sorry for Northern Ireland is an understatement. Where are the bridge builders... still building walls? Where is Europe ? ...... Ireland..?
Where abouts did you go?
Because I live in Belfast and I would state otherwise...
'For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.
-Neo Con Jew Paul Wolfowitz, Vanity Fair interview May 28, 2003
'The CIA gave us bad intelligence.'
~George W. Bush, July 11, 2003
'Iraq did Not have the weapons our intelligence believed were there.'
-Bush 2004
"We got it wrong. We have seen nothing to suggest that he had actual stockpiles."
- Powell, Oct. 1, 2004
If only there were no religions and we all thought like kids, what a wonderful world it would be.
@kevin45271 what has Omagh got to do with anything????
@GH169 No we have the All-Ireland Championship which includes the 32 counties in 4 provinces.
i think we should all just get along, there has been so much that has happened in the past and both sides have hurt eachother. Put the past in the past and give our children and the next generation a Northern Ireland/Ireland/United Kingdom where we can all get along
@fidodido411 UK cities are usually tolerant. If you are a student and going to hang out in areas that students frequent, you will find it enjoyable. Keep an open mind and you will enjoy your time there. :-)
@SamsSpaghetti im 6th generation ulsterman , but you speak more sense than most of us , TOP MAN
I'm English but no way are these guys British. I respect them for standing up for what they beleive in but there deluded, noone I know would consider them British at all. Most true brits like myself are ashamed of Britians abusive past.
The end of that scares me. Seeing the flag burning. It's just hatred. From both sides. And if children are continually raised apart nothing will change.
R.I.P bobby
NOTICE HOW THE QUEEN AND MCGUINESS JUST SHARED A VERY NICE FREEMASONIC HANDSHAKE....they where working together all along
Can anyone please give me a brief summary of the IRA? I would like to get a better understanding of this. thank you
2:45 to 2:51 you can tell theres intimidation between them and that they still hate each other
Where's the narration?
Oh, and burning the Flag of Ireland or ANY flag of any country is def. antagonisitic.
so there's two different two guides....Wow...
King William did participate in any sort of pogroms against catholics during his short time in Ireland. In fact both he and James spent very little of their time in Ireland in the first place, so the vast majority of deaths caused by the Williamite war were the work of Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants fighting one another, using the names of the two kings as a useful cover for their conflict.
my father was killed in northern irland in 1987,i think i know everything about it. my father never wanted that iam a protestant or Katolik. so stop this fuckn war! it lives right now, every day, every minute.and it will never end. iam shure.
@jonnyc950 Totally agree. Having disagreements and/or coming from the other divide is one thing but petrol bombing children on their way to school is sickening
Imagine someone coming into your house and you tried and tried to get them out but they wouldn't leave. You begin my asking nicely and then eventually you retaliate. Everyone else is on their side yet you stand alone. Then once a year they burn your flag and celebrate the fact that they have taken part of your home. Would you want to associate with that person? Would you have hatred towards that person? If so how can you not have walls. There would be bloodshed and mayhem.
Still five thousand british troops and a new headquarters for MI5 ,are still in Ireland. How can you have real peace?
Actually the 12th July marches have for years given way to Catholic demands to change routes that they march, But Nationalists are never happy with any concessions that are given & are intent on little by little eroding any expressions of Loyalism ,the different cultures are just as important to each on both sides & so we should let each other express them without fear of attack, So to protect them there comes a point which enough is enough & capitulation stops this applies equally to all sides
I was there last week, I don't see what you are on about.
thats what you think my friend but is it good all the trouble has stoped hope it lasts
so....now Belfast has been turned into a tourist attraction? Took long enough..maybe the MPs can hire Disney to give it a little animatronic magic....
@Leekduck as someone from a nation who has the union jack on our flag, I'd love if the british flag changed.
I want to acknowledge my british and irish heritage, but we've nothing to do with the modern UK. So using the "old" flag would feel completely right to me, if that scenario was to occur.
Please, please, please people of the world - not all people in Northern Ireland are repersented by these images. Some of us got up of our asses and worked to keep these tramps - and are still keeping them.
lol theres beechmount in 0:57 holy shit!!
There is amnesty to those who committed terrorism before good Friday agreement.
Can somebody recommend me a good video here on youtube about the history of Ireland, Northern Ireland and the matters that lead to the situation as it is today? Thanks in advance!
And the walls are still there, gotten bigger, taller and longer. And they have outlasted the Berlin Wall. Nothing has changed. Different names, same shame. 2024 is coming.
10 ottobre 2010. nord ireland-italy
arriviamo!
We definitely need a wall in the US
hello catherine, im sorry but i dont understand most of this what you write? but please tell me what was years ago? but i do agree that people should be british if they choose but if your born in ireland then your irish. and im sorry but im not religious im an irish nationalist who wants my nation back of the british, if anything im looking to the future i see a day when the occupation ends and we can look after our own affairs whats wrong with that? TAL.
NO SURRENDER!
As i watched our national flag burn to the hands of foreigners on our soil, i realised; ''Ireland unfree, shall never be at peace''
and Northern Ireland is not a third world state where the vast majority of people are clinging onto life.
@mayeballs the peace wall what one there are loads of peace walls and as for there removal not a chance do you think the people of clonard or the shankill ardoyne short strand blacks road want them down its took years to get to were we are now there needs to be trust and that wont come anytime soon
I see the normal people of Northern Ireland dont feature at all in this....... kind of typical
why not?
People HATE Occupation.
Northern Ireland has everything to do with Occupation, no religious per se.
Irish fight off Occupation, and thats admireable, manly and just.
What the hell is going on around 14:20ish?
its far more complex than that
the boy at 6:07 replied very intelligently, if only catholics and protestants could think like that, not like the simple minded people the start throwing petrol bombs
Time to move on from murder and injury!!
MO ... I think I'm working on you :-)
remember watch that IRB video on my liked pages .. learn the truth
we 've all been twisted by a greater evil
While its true that for a long period catholics were treated like second class citizens, that was never the point of my argument. My point was that many of the areas that are now an issue have only become catholic areas in the recent past and that the parades have followed the same routes long before an area was catholic, or indeed in some instances before there was residential housing in the area.
even if the walls come down people wont just walk over and get along they will just get on with life and if some one killed when they are down all hell will start... get them up for another 20 years.
great vid l see the tourist everyday its different to see what they see☺
As I'm talking politically and not geographically then no, Northern Ireland is not part of the Republic of Ireland, it's part of the United Kingdom.
What a bunch of fucking nonsense. This has nothing to do with religion or country. Many poor and angry youths. Happens in the U.S as well.
I know they do, but they shouldn't. Not retarded, just tired of religious nonsense. Killing in the name of religion is idiotic.
Religion is bullshit! Any mention of it as a factor in Ireland is irrelevant. Catholics and Protestants killing each other is ludicrous. I do know the history of Ireland genius. Great Britain is not going to give the northern six counties back to the Republic of Ireland, so individuals in the north need to get the fuck over it. You can't go back and change the past. Bad shit happened and people need to work together so it doesn't repeat itself.
Like I said in the beginning, the British needs to leave completely! Ulster's will still be Ulster's, the Irish will still be Irish, just won't have any British in all of Ireland! Ireland can take care of its own problems! If Britain won't leave on their own, FORCE THEM OUT! Whatever means necessary!They shouldn't have been in Ireland in the first place! People has the right to believe what they want to! Keep the wall up or take it down! It's still Ireland no matter Northern Ireland or Southern Ireland! If people wants to separate themselves from each other, so beit! Crossing over the bridge should still be done with high caution! Irish or Protestant! Yeah in the future the European Union/ United Nations so come up with their own "UNIVERSAL" religion! People can't get along, so "big brother" is going to play Savior! 🍀🔫🍀
Wow John, chuckling at this so much right now. Trying to hijack an ethnicity and political based conflict rooted in 400+ years of Irish history to spout your atheist views and pretend you know what you're talking about is hilarious. You are absolutely clueless beyond belief.
WTF are you talking about? I just stayed facts, unlike religious leaders. I didn't hijack anything. I know the history of the northern six counties, genius.
It's not about money, whose head is on what. It's about the cost of living and I know for a fact it is harder on the Euro as things stand.
I'm not on the dole either, and as for the 200 Euro a week, you can get that here, all you need is a Southern address to use. The 200 Euro is set to be reduced in any case. There are no water charges here either, not yet anyway, while we also are entitled to grants, housing and healthcare. If onle you were as clued in as you thought you were.
one side is clean, the other side is a filthy tip.. we all know which is which.
yeah because the problem goes back 8 centuries.
@ImagesByDavid Exactly. And it's a very poor way to indentify. Call a spade a spade.