OUIGO - High Speed, Low Price
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- Bonjour à tous!
Welcome to this new trip report, where we will travel across France with Ouigo, I know it's the third video onboard this train BUT, it's been a while since I haven't recorded Ouigo, so I wanted to make a new one with modern standards! Plus 19€ to cross ALL France is definitely worth a video 😎
Enjoy :)
- TRIP INFORMATION -
RECORDED IN JANUARY 2022
Railroad company: SNCF (Ouigo)
Train type: TGV Duplex Dasye (780, 781)
From: Marseille Saint-Charles to Lille Flandres
Time: 4h35
Price: 19€ - $20
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00:00 : Intro
01:34 : Marseille Saint Charles
02:16 : Boarding process
03:52 : An efficient operation
04:14 : Departure from Marseille
04:52 : Seat check
05:51 : Booking process
06:19 : From Marseille...
06:45 : ... to the LGV Med
07:30 : Avignon
07:54 : Vibing at 300 km/h
08:31 : Lyon St Exupery
09:05 : Mid roll ads
09:31 : Walkthrough
11:41 : Toilets Time
12:47 : LGV Sud Est & Opération Sardine
14:13 : Uh oh
15:21 : Between the LGV SE and Nord
16:15 : Last stretch to Lille
16:41 : Arrival in Lille & thoughts
17:09 : Outro
This trip is more than 125 miles longer than Acela's DC-Boston service, America's fastest line, which takes 6h50 to 9 hours to make it depending on the service. But Ouigo makes it in 4h35m!!!! I really like Ouigo, I think they offer a great service for the price. My snobby parents who now live in France, never want to use it and prefer using INOUI: I don't get it, this is cheap and convenient. I took me from Bordeaux to Paris in a little over 2h and for €16!!!!!
Hey if your snobby rich parents want to pay full price for a service then there is more space for the rest of us on a Ouigo
regular tgv Inoui offers more services (and runs to the central stations more often ) - while also being more comfortable. Also if you have discount cards you can get cheap tickets if you book early.
@@Saumiiiii @JimHeeren is right, they're snobs 😒After an adult life spent in the US, French look rather reasonable to them, and they don't get why everybody doesn't travel "in style". I still mostly live in the US and understand how privileged they are for having these options to begin with. Last year, we visited the UK visited the UK, their train system was a mess, so my parents were incensed and made it clear to everyone. The Brits hated us!😁
@@Sayitlikitiz101 traveling by TGV inoui isn't really style imo. Overall they offer the better travel experience since you have more luggage space, more seat space, more options (every hour or 2 so to Bordeaux?). And again they are not much expensive - idk about you but I'm happy to pay 20 more for Inoui. Also ouigos can be more expensive than regular tgvs sometimes because of their demand
Not only is the Acela service shorter and 3x longer but it’s like $500 one way, something ridiculously high where as European rail travel is heavy subsidise which lowers the cost for the overall consumer.
The extent and efficiency of the HSR network in France is amazing 🤩, the Duplex trains already feel cramped vs single level trains imo, can't imagine Ouigo levels of density, though at least the prices are super low and will attract people from cars/planes
Et Pourtant les français ralent, et ne sont jamais content des offres ferroviaires
It would be good if there were more high speed lines connecting east and west in the central and southern part of the country..
I can't say I ever found the duplex trains to feel cramped when I was in France, if anything, it felt like there was more space than normal
@@ajc6208 Are you Indian ? Living in Mumbai ?
I hate Duplexes. Sncf is fast becoming like an airline, the seating, the ticketing, everything.
How is the ridership on an annual basis for this system. The ability to move a large number of people over a long distance certainly has an advantage over driving or airplane. Very impressive. The high speed train service on the North East corridor here in the US. is single level.(too many overpasses to deal with)
I loved the high-speed rail service in Europe when I was living there. Regionally, taking a RENFE or DB was more economical in time and money than flying Wizz or Ryanair. What irked me was that if I wanted to go two or more countries over, traveling by rail took a very long time, cost a lot, and transfers weren't guaranteed (with some limited exceptions) which made me resort to flying. I hope that there will be some liberalization of the rail lines in Europe. I'd love to return and travel city to city as opposed to airport-to-airport :)
Liberalisation retrospectively killed a lot of railway systems. We just need to have a big unified system and force European countries and companies to follow them (without caring about the structure of the internal market there)
TheSheiban
The TATA group of INDIA can run these trains more efficiently than any other but without politics.
From INDIA 🇮🇳 ♥️
Actually, the railway market in Europe is pretty liberalised, but the vested interests of some major players (notably DB and SNCF) are difficult to shift. However, politically things are moving towards greater international cooperation, imposed by the EU. Still very early days though. Cross-border train travel in (Western) Europe is still far too complicated and expensive.
@@Adam-bf9zz To be extremely fair, the problem comes from the many national railway companies. Being oublicly owned, their purpose is and used to be to service political goals. Sounds dumb and caricatural... until you look at 3/4 of the rail networks, especially high speed ones.
The biggest difficulty is that each country has different electrical networks (sometimes multiple), meaning you have to change the motor for each part of the lines. The Thalys has 4 different motors for example.
The other limitation is the rail communication systems. There's now a european one, but it's fairly recent. Just like with the electrification, it needs to be redone entirely. Meanwhile, each time you change the type of network you're rolling one, you have to change all your communication systems. The SNCF especially is... taking its time to pass on the european one to stay in a monopole situation.
Finally, with railways built for national purposes... you can pretty well imagine how difficult it is for national rail operators to operate on international travels. Even if these are the most desired and lucrative unecplored segments of the market.
There are good news though. With the current liberalisation, it is becoming easier and easier for any operators to set up ant travels, including international ones. The rise of the ÖBB sleeper trains is a good example of it. OuiGo is also in Spain.
The other good thing is that there should be a unique european ticket websites in the coming years, that has been pushed by the EU. That is gonna be really great :>.
@@sureshbhatia9408 Hilarious! Nationalist nonsense from India. I wouldn't trust an Indian train company to run my toy trains. Also, if there's something we know for sure, it's that India is not a friend of Europe, you can go kiss Putin's rear.
3:50 The only that is still in service that is, Japan had some but their last high speed double-decker, Shinkansen E4, was officially retired about three years ago!
It's a shame, I'd have loved to ride this train!
That's for good. In my opinion, from the user's sole utilitarian perspective, comfort is the essence of rail travel. Why travel on an uncomfortable train? I would prefer flying instead, unless the uncomfortable train is a scenic one.
@@gokceaydin3324 Double-deckers are not necesseraly uncomfortable
It carries more people (1634; achieved by having a 3+3 seat arrangement I rmb in some cabins) but with a slower speed of 240km/h
@@TheMangazixyThey are always if you are tall like me. And I have to take double deckers 4 times a week, each trip 3h. I hate it.
this is how you don't need domestic flights anymore.
as a german i can just wish our system would work like that. Hamburg - Munich approximately 6 hours within 800km.
Yep..
I believe it's a matter of time before other rain opperators enter the german market. In France, it's just beginning. But in spain or Italy, it's getting quite common to see some competition on many travels.
@@marcbuisson2463 I don't think the existence of competition really affects the travel times. It is dependent upon the infrastructure and the infrastructure manager.
@@gokceaydin3324 This is definitely true. All things being equal, travel time doesn't vary much if at all between a low-cost operator or a full-service one in the same way that low cost airlines have no speed difference than legacy airlines. If the infrastructure is good enough for high speed service, that service will be in demand regardless. The main difference will be price and amenities, and low cost operators have a lot of opportunity to take airline markets to task. Conventional high speed rail has already proven the point back in the 1980s and 90s, and now low cost operators can take that concept to its greatest potential, especially since high speed rail is more desired than ever, and in a lot of places, more needed than ever.
@@gokceaydin3324 for the travel time, absolutely. But the rest of the system, not necessarily. The biggest upside with ouigo, more than the infrastructure, is its cost :>. And that can be done in Germany
Nice high speed ride for only 19euros. Looked comfy. Lacked a restaurant car. Cramped toilet for we tall men.
Thanks Thibault.😀💚
Hey...don't complain about the tight boarding. The carriages look very clean and comfortable. You ought to try Amtrak in the USA where the door-entranceways can *somehow* be filled with snow and ice (I could just not figure that out at all) and the overnight heat may or may not work. French trains truly superior, evidently.
You should take a look at my Amtrak's video.
from my experience, even though it’s a bit louder on the lower decks on duplex, there is less people passing trough your cab to go to the bar for example as the only way to cross cab is on the upper deck. it results in a much smoother and quieter travel. ( the doors dont open every 10 seconds) 8:00
Good point. But it feels like a rathole, too, at times, because of that.
Cant wait for better integration of European rail services. Last month i tried to buy train tickets for a short trip to spain, but not only was it more expensive than travel by car it also took longer. NS International didn't even give me budget-friendly options like Ouigo.
japan used to have double decker high speed train too! it’s called e4 series max but it retired last year…
Do you know why it's being retired? It's so young, I know of refurbished German rolling stock from the 50's and 60's that are still operating. And even for a high speed train it's quick, were there any issues?
@@timbrust9739 they took longer to board due to the dubbel level so JE retired them earlier then planned
@@timbrust9739 Aside from the issues with slow boarding, they were also limited to 240 km/h and JR East wanted to increase the line speed to 270 km/h.
I also remember that Japanese rail operators find it most cost effective to buy rolling stock that last only ~20yrs & then replace them afterwards, & that the rolling stock's body bulges abit due to air pressure changes when entering & exiting tunnels, like what happens when an aircraft's fueslage goes thru pressurization & depressurization cycles, increasing the body's wear & tear. They even have to do D-checks on the rolling stock every 5 yrs I heard
Amazing. FORMIDABLE!. Merci. 👍🏻🏴🇫🇷❤️
Why didn't this exist in 2013 when I was a broke college student in France?? So much better than taking a plane or a bus, but those were the only cheap options at the time. I would have loved to have been able to pop down to Marseille from Paris on one of these bad boys.
I spent 1 year doing my Erasmus in Aix-en-Provence and used Ouigo quite often, as a student nothing can beat a low price high speed train!
Nice video! I loved the format, it is really comforting to be able to hear the sounds of the train. Thanks.
Man your train videos rock. I love them.......I love riding trains too.....kudos to this channel
They've also got a service in Spain. Its website is available in English as well as Spanish. The French service's site is only available in French
the site exists in English, you just have to click on the arrow next to the language:fr button and it's magic, you will see the English language appear
Actually, the distance between Marseille St Charles and Lille is 970.5 km, almost entirely on high speed tracks.
France was the second country to develop an exclusive high speed network, only high speed trains use the high speed lines, all lines are fenced off and there are no level crossings. But their high speed trains can also be used on conventional lines at lower speed. In Japan the high speed trains only use dedicated lines.
Although not all dedicated Shinkansen lines are high speed: there are two "Mini Shinkansen" lines in Japan (Yamagata and Akita) where the trainsets are limited to 130Km/h as the tracks were originally conventional 1067mm tracks that were converted to standard gauge.
Voilà un voyage que j'aimerais faire! Vous m'en avez donné l'envie. Merci pour ce reportage.
Avec plaisir
Hi ! The Ouigo is a hell of a train ! Double-decker assembled with 20 cars (16 passenger cars and 4 engine cars). Its length in this configuration is about 400 m, a quarter mile !
I was recently sitting in my regional train (TER) in gare de l'est, standing near a Ouigo, watching people embarking. How amazing ! It looked like an entire town was getting into the train !
Would like to see OUIGO operate from London St. Pancras International and to do a competition with Eurostar. Their trains are so incredible.
with the eurotunnel toll...difficult to be so competitive.
the Ouigo trains, like all the other regular TGV, don't have the size, the security and technical specifications to drive through the tunnel or on the bristish railtracks
@@ericalexandre2983 From a purely technical point of view, they could circulate on the HSL 1 only! because it was built on the LGV specifications of France (normal it was the French who built it).
For the tunnel the gauge corresponds and the TGV can technically pass through it, because also built on the LGV standards (but built by the French and English).
For security, a single unit would have little constraint...a double unit should be able to disconnect into 2 single units, therefore possible.
Signaling is similar to HSL in the tunnel (and obviously HSL 1).
In the end only the last km after Stratford using English signage would be a problem (and again I don't know if it's English or Intl signage)
Normally the HSL 2 will be built on the international HSL standard which is aligned with the HSLs of France and Japan, the first two countries to have HSLs.
@@Lodai974 Japan has a wider loading gauge for its HSR (~3.4m) since unlike HSR in Europe, their tracks aren't shared with normal speed rolling stock
Amtrak should repurpose its Acelas to replace Northeast Regional between Boston and Washington, with low cost travel akin to OuiGo.
I wouldn't be a bad idea for real!
@SimplyRailway
Hey Thibault, did you see that Amtrak has reestablished the Adirondack train from New York to Montreal Qubec? I really want to ride this route.
@@desertfox486 Yes sir!!!!! Me too
THANKS LOVED IT!!!
Alas in the UK these options are very limited with only Lumo really doing anything similar. In Manchester Avanti have a monopoly on London trains so coaches are really the only very cheap option though changing at Crewe for London Midland can offer a cheap train but a lot slower than Avanti.
The UK system is a franchise system, Government still ownes all the stations and tracks, ( trains are held by government backed holding companies). Aventi have a monoploy because the British government gave them a monopoly. Heck Lumo is actually owned by the some people who run Avanti West Coast (70% shareholding), Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western), Hull Trains, London Tramlink, South Western Railway (70% shareholding) and TransPennine Express i.e.FirstGroup plc. Also its all controlled by the Office of road and rail, even down to the prices. Frankly the system needs properly privatising like the Japanese system (as they the best in the world) and the government getting the heck out if the way.
When the train stopped in the middle of nowhere, I kind of expected the conductor to go around and collect 2 € from everyone to make the train continue XD
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4h30 pour ~850km pour seulement ~15$ CAD et aucun transfert! Incroyable! Par ici au Canada, même se rendre à la prochaine ville par autobus coute 25$ pour 1h pour 110km.. et c'est le seul mode de transport sans ton propre char ou bateau. Puis c'est aussi seulement un voyage par jour, pas trop pratique. Il était une fois où nous pouvant voyager par train ou même pars bateaux mouche et je peux faire rien qu'espère que la pousse vers un monda vert vont faire retour ces modes plus efficaces.
My first time watching this Ouigo, and man I was impressed by their business model, their trains, and that full speed video??!! Felt like Formula One! Interesting to see whether other countries will copy this model since 90% occupancy is a profitable figures to begin with!
Both SNCF and OUIGO have insane prices. To get anything close to your deal you'd have to catch some sort of special promotion, pay for some wildly overprice subscription or book months and months in advance. Every time I've looked into it, low-cost airlines from Beauvais have been cheaper than taking the train from Paris
Try getting to Paris from Beauvais, though. You'll understand the price difference.
@@Hepad_ Considering I'm looking for the cheapest option, comfort was never a consideration so I don't mind the trip. And even with the 30€ for the two-way shuttle added to the ticket price it's still cheaper (and depending on the destination faster) than a train...
Had booked 2months in advance to get a low fare.
@@Hepad_ I heard Low-cost carrier Lion Air meanwhile had an even more ambitious proposal to serve Singapore not by flying into its Changi or Seletar Airports, but to nearby Indonesia's Batam island's _Hang Nadim_ airport & have passengers transfer to a ~1h ferry to Singapore. Not sure if you'll need to clear Indonesian immigration in the process though (besides Singapore's one). AirAsia also had wanted to fly to _Senai_ Airport on the outskirts of _Johor Bahru_ (New) city in neighbouring Malaysia & have passengers transfer to a coach bound for Singapore, which definitely requires clearing Malaysian immigration too &, the subsequent land border crossings into Singapore are pretty crowded (~1h Q-ing during peak hrs & ~3h during festive seasons). Singapore's gov't might then have little incentive to reduce the crowding @ the border crossings, otherwise it then can't 'punish' passengers for cheaping out & flying thru _Senai_ instead of via the more expensive _Changi_ airport
Great video !!
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And in the US, going from NYC to DC takes 3.5h and costs $145
Well then again it depends on when you book and what train you book. If you book onto a long distance train or Acela then it’s gonna be expensive
@@CreatorPolar Uhh but that's the point, this is long distance high speed that's affordable.
@@CreatorPolar I’m talking 3 weeks in advance, no Acela, midday trains not 4am trains.
This is INSANE.
@@adamp1440 I’m just saying that the north east can be cheaper
@@CreatorPolar Cheaper and slower so not exactly comparable?
Impressive! If only Amtrak can do the same.
Most likely never.
No chance. How is that HST in California doing
@@MrJimheeren at least they've started building it. But really, constructing anything in the US takes too long and involves lots of corruption and bureaucratic paperwork.
Not a chance because building anything in the US is difficult. This 970 km trip uses 5 Lignes Nouvelles (LN5, LN4, and large parts of LN1, Ile-de-France bypass and LN3). Adjusted for inflation, these 5 projects totaling 1211 km of high speed track were built for less than $15 billion. In the US, the Gateway Program, 18 km of regular speed track between Newark and NY Penn stations, is expected to cost $30 billion.
@@MrJimheeren It's going. The problem has been dealing with beauracracy, NIMBYs, and imo the biggest issue being lack of knowledge and having to train people on the construction of high speed rail. That knowledge gap has been painful.
I took the same train last December. Thanks to this train, it was cheaper to go from Utrecht (Netherlands) to Marseille than it would have been to go from Rotterdam to Paris with the Thalys
I live near Utrecht. Just for future reference, how much did it cost you and which route did you take? Thanks.
@Chris Topdeck I live just South of Utrecht, I took the train to Den Bosch, then to Breda, then I took the IC Direct to Brussel, Tgv to Lille, Tgv to Paris, Ouigo to Marseille. I think it was just a bit less than €100, I booked 3 days in advance. On the way back I took a direct ouigo to Lille, Eursostar to Brussel (just for fun, tgv would have been cheaper), ic direct to Breda and then normal trains back home. Was also around €100.
I could have gone from Lille directly to Marseille too but I wanted to go via Paris
Thayls is overpriced trash get a normal train across belgium then change for a tgv at lille or Tourcoing
beau train ce ouigo tgv français merci simpli railway
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superb mister 😍
Le montage est de mieux en mieux sur tes vidéos, au top :)
Thanks for reliving the Paris marseille ouigo I took last year.3 h 5 min that was an experience.the last section to Nice is not high speed so we explored marseille and then in two days took a TER to Nice ville an extremely scenic journey.loved this one.
Good to see more people patronizing public transport. Yeah trains and flights are for people, highways and trucks are for cargo.
Great video as always.
I see that there are some differences between the French and the Spanish OuiGo service. In Spain they kept the Bar service and the first class seats (2+1 wider with more pitch) that are included in the OuiGo Plus (which is an extra 9€).
This video also makes me a bit angry at France that intentionally prevents good high speed service from Spain by refusing (through countess "delays") to connect the two corridors with high speed rail. The Mediterranean corridor still has a big gap before the connection to the high speed line and there basically nothing in the Atlantic corridor, both were suppose to be connected but even the 2030 deadline was recently pushed to around 2045. Add this ti the difficulties they give Renfe with the operation of the Barcelona Pris line (that due to the lack of a high speed line connection takes more than 6h) even though they operated on this line for years.
We ain't happy about it in France neither :
Tell that to the inhabitants of the Pays Basque who want to preserve their tranquility...
Locals have the right to have a say...
@@jandron94 oh, but we will definitely repeat it. The current alternative of massive lorries and being a car highway for the region is not the best feeling. They still have it a tad better than those on the Bordeaux rocade, but Bayonne is increasingly becoming similar.
Also, the op is speaking about linking the railway between Montpellier and Perpignan. It's quite far from the Pays Basque...
@@marcbuisson2463 De nombreux départements ne sont pas desservis par le TGV, encore moins par une LGV... donc les Pyrénées-Orientales et leur 490.000 habitants peuvent bien attendre encore un peu...
Et puis le moindre tracé de LGV c'est 350 recours... la France n'est pas l'Espagne...
Toulouse... Nice... n'ont toujours pas de LGV...
@@jandron94 oui. Et c'est plutôt normal. Les LGV, ça sert a desservir avant tout les grandes agglomérations et transporter du monde. A part l'agglomération Biaritz-Bayonne, y a pas grand chose dans le coin. Par contre, parvenir à faire Madrid-Bilbao-Bordeaux-Paris, là on est sur des trajets importants et utiles. Même chose que Barcelone-Marseille-Lyon. On parle de relier des agglomérations de millions d'habitants entre elles.
Voir le TGV sous l'axe franco-français, c'est la meilleure façon de s'assurer d'avoir un tgv ni rentable, ni utilisé autant qu'il pourrais l'être et incapable de concurrencer l'avion.
Mais en effet. Si y avait que Bayonne, ça aurais pas d'intéret. Sauf que la France vie pas en isolation, et la LGV espagnole s'arrète à... Irun. 2 km de la frontière française. Du coté méditerranée, c'est pire le terminus est en France même, à Perpignan.
Nice video! I rode the TGV south from Paris to eventually Nice, 1982.. good times.
Nice train, cheap fare.
Thanks for video.
I guess no option to get a bite to eat or drink? Anyway fantastic ride and price. Big fan of train travel and your channel❗️
Le tgv OUIGO, low cost a été invité en France, pour concurrencer le co voiturage, utilisé biensouvent par des personnes peu aisées ! Le OUIGO donne l’occasion à toute personne de profiter de la grande vitesse.
Wow, from Marseille in the South to Lille in the very North, that's quite a long distance! I know how long it takes to cross France from the North to the South or vice versa. I wish we had a low-cost train brand with high-speed trains here in Germany as well. SNCF has really better and more useful ideas for their passengers than our Deutsche Bahn such as introducing Ouigo.
Muito lindo trem gostei feliz Páscoa aí
Ainda não peguei o ouigo mas as tarefas são baratas está há uma sagrada data que não viajei de trem de bala de mais preço rentável e cabivel.
Japan had (until 2021) a double decker Shinkansen called the max toki (E4 series) that would travel from Tokyo to Niigata on the tohoku and joetsu Shinkansen. Great trains with a distinct geometry. Max speed 240 km/h
Good train beautiful journey 🌹💯👍
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13:45 in China it's possible to take a ride on the train between Beijing to Nanjing, which supposedly covers the 1000+km in just under 3hrs 15min. Mental!
Great trip. Very affordable price for trying the High Speed Train.
Great video -- and comments . Wonderful to think of the possibilities . Am I right in thinking ( having looked at the website ) that the service only covers SEVEN cities in all of Spain ? That is the only setback I can see .
That speed is just crazy
I love Lille but last there in the early 90s when EuroLille was being completed.
Such a pleasant smaller city!
Nice videos 👌🏻🏆
10:50 12:19 Thibauuuuuuuult!
11:30 So true if you're an European. In my country, building one is a major issue. Too much bureaucracy.
13:09 Easy for OM to visit and riot LOSC and vice versa.
13:51 Why not Eurostar allow for this London-Paris-Marseille route? But you know OUIGO can do the route to London St. Pancras, right?
14:53 From InOui to InOn!
very interesting as always.
OuiGo is a great way indeed to get people to switch from air/car to trains - Oui to go! (get it?) 😅
8:20 Ah, a man of taste and culture. Nine-Nine! 😊
Good video though I love the tgv it is my favourite train
Merci pour cette vidéo. Étant contrôleur ouigo, je vois qu'elle date avec la R4 bloquée à la vente et le port du masque obligatoire ! A très bientôt sur nos lignes et merci pour les autres vidéos
I'm meant to be taking one of these between Paris and Lyon in a couple of weeks time. I might be taking the bus though because of the train strikes!
For €19... That trip is a steal!
Second, when I see another adventure uploaded
Love that you are B99 fan.
It's something unbelievable for me to watch your video at first time. Didn't know and hadn't any idea of such marvelous service SCNCF offers for its passengers. I'm really excited of looking at this long-distance root. Ongoing and simply travelling by this superluxury train (from personal point of view) is really fantastic! SNCF Ouigo is really the best way of travelling through country from north to south. It's really the best choice for every tourist or passenger and a good alternative of domestic (internal) flights. Besides, this train makes two additional stops on their route in two largest airports of France. And certainly this is more comfortable and convenient for everyone to go from airport to airport and from city centre to city centre. And finally, speed. HSR routes made it possible to look at the most fantastic scenery or landscapes and see how nature changes from North of Europe to the South. Don't have any idea, are there such routes in Germany or Spain? In any way, nice video. Great job! Thanks! Subscribe!!! 💞💞💞
IDK if it'd call it luxury, I mean this train is literally meant to be the exact opposite of that but sure. And both Spain and Germany, along with a few other countries have low cost express trains like Ouigo. In Spain you'll also find Ouigo, but also Avlo running on several routes in the country. And in Germany there's Flixtrain made by the Flixbus group. Sweden also has Flixtrain alongside MTRX. In Italy there's Italo, which is more of a slightly cheaper full service train compared to the RedArrow by the state railways. Even in the UK there's Lumo which is also a high speed low cost train running between London and Edinburgh in Scotland via Newcastle.
Thank you very much, Mr DeWott. When we are talking about luxury or superluxury (trains, planes, cars) I don't point your attention only on comfort. But surely I agree with you entirely comfort makes great choice when we choose means of transportation what we would be likely more or better for us. Firstly, I said this luxury train is from my personal point of view. I hadn't enough any experience yet of traveling by HSR trains. As video goes, I guess It would be luxury for me to go by such trains. And secondly, 19€ for 4 and a half distance route and with 300 km/h -- it is really exciting. Don't you think that?!
As for me, I like trains and find them the most comfortable and convenient transport.
As for Spain, you are right Ouigo trains are in service between Madrid and Barcelona (two largest Spanish cities) and certainly many European roots are connected with Ouigo (from Barcelona to Paris, f.ex.). But is there any alternative, f.ex. in Spain to go from North to South like in France. In Germany it is HSR between Hamburg and Munich. Italo and Red Arrow in Spain are in service in Italy.
Sweden and The UK or Denmark don't operate HSR roots of such high class. If I'm not mistaken, the single HSR root in the UK connects London with Paris through the the English Channel (300 km/h). The highest speed between London and Edinburgh is about 170 km/h (maybe 200). It's not enough to be named it HSR.
In any way, thanks for your answer! Sincerely Yours! ✋
2:02 the sncf jingle
4:54 i prefer the seats of srt and ktx of korea republic/south korea/korea and shinkasen train of japan because it can be rotated eg the ouigo/inoui train must facing going lille, paris, caen etc
4:28 and the OuiGo one
The ktx seats (atleast in the oldest trainsets) are one of the worst I ever used.
Actually on TGV Océane trains there are pivoting seats as well for the first class. 🎉
Thumbs up 👍 to everyone choosing rail over flight for travel when possible
saw allot of those in Lille Flandres, and i believe in Tournai and Brussels if im not mistaken or was it the other trains
The seats look more like NJ Transit than Amtrak, but I guess for that price you can't complain!
7:34 I believe that section is 200mph or 320kmph
I used ouigo espana where you could upgrade to first class for 9 euros. Great trip!
Nice video 👍I definitely want to try this jourrney.
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I bet Ouigo is the best matchday trains to ride for every football and rugby fan in any big city rivalite in any Ligue 1 or Top 14 matches.
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I wish this was in more countries. We need affordable HSR
It is available in Spain as well.
I think so too, but it mainly depends on those countries building a dedicated High-Speed-Network. For example Germany has some HSR, but it isn't a network (of dedicated HSR tracks) and for the most part, it is shared with regional trains, freight trains etc. Cheap HSR is, were these great dedicated networks are: Spain, Italy, France (in Europe).
Hey, at the end, if you take the train on your right, chances are you'll end up in my country ;)
Thank you for sharing your experience. It is interesting to know that this isn't too bad, even if I am not sure that I could spend almost 5 hours in this train with luggage stopping me to stretch my legs and paid services for everything including... electricity :D
But it's worth thinking it over.
I really hope this will be the future of High speed rail in the U.S.! I have an acquaintance visiting Disneyland Paris who was also at the Star Wars Celebration in London. This is the Econo-Lodge of trains and for the value its well worth it. Thanks again!
E4 series Shinkansen is also double decker
About the boarding process : as you said for Via Rail : Stop doing that SNCF ! You're not an airline.
That's f*cking insane for 20euro. Shinkansen is hundreds for similar distance
Vous vous êtes trompé en ce qui concerne la distance entre Marseille-Saint-Charles et Lille-Flandres, c'est facilement 950 kms, si ce n'est plus, il y a déjà 750 km entre Marseille et Paris par la LGV, et 210 km ou plus entre Paris et Lille, donc, ça fait déjà 960 kms plus plusieurs kilomètres de ligne classique au sortir de Paris et de Marseille. J'ai vérifié, bien sûr, car la distance de 834 km entre Marseille et Lille me paraissait un peu court. Sinon, excellente vidéo! 🙂
Merci beaucoup !!! :)
2:06 la demoiselle a noté que tu la filmais 😉
For sardine operation (2001).
They have used a brand new, unmodified TGV network, but they have traveled at 320 kph for most of the journey with peaks at 350 kph on certain sections.
Funny detail: at the exit of the HSL in Marseille, they came across a blocked red light (system failure), which made them lose several minutes, less than 3km from the finish in St Charles .
$20 to go cross country is a great value.
This is proper cattle class 😂
Since there's no bar/cafe car, are there at least vending machines onboard to purchase snacks and drinks from or is it all BYO like the Korean and Japanese HSR's?
Late greeting from Formosa. Christ, we need this for our conventional railways - budget trains as if Japanese regional rail trains. If the State-run Bento Bistro (Not the one running high speed rail) here keep on running useless express trains, I could hardly imagine what would fall upon them...
Sounds like quite a bargain! My hometown in central Illinois is along the only stretch of High-Speed Rail tracks in the state, although I don't know if Amtrak operates trains along these tracks as fast as the Ouigo seemed to be traveling.
Does Ouigo compete with intercity busses?
That’s the only thing I give to Amtrak… The level of comfort is unmatched… But that’s not a bad price for HSR. Amtrak charges more than that with less speed and less distance.
This is also a low budget option. If you take the Inoui you have two classes and a restaurant car with recliner seats
note that electricity comes from npp,so emissions are zero
Excellent video, as always! However, I really don’t like the seats in the Ouigo and the tray tables even less… But you’re right, for the price, you can’t beat that
Je n'achète pas une heure de train, j'achète des kilomètres de transport. Nuance !
@@gerarddorle7141 Exactement.
I wouldn't know about the pre-boarding check and simply cross the platform. What would they do? The doors were open... Walk through every car to look for you? While you have a valid ticket?
I've always wondered why tgv duplexes seem so weirdly designed. The space is cramped and there is a step from the platform to the lower deck even though the platform is low already. Especially bizarre coming from Swiss double deckers that are far more spacious and have step free entry.
the loading gauge is larger in Switzerland!
And those rare beeps at 11:34?
How do they check to see if the luggage was paid to store in one of the racks?
Staff... they have some sort of little case to check the size 😛
This is what the Northeast Corridor *should* be. Who knows, maybe with the new Avelia Liberty trains eventually being placed into service, it will become this way.
I doubt it though.
8:21 Brooklyn 99❤
Cool cool cool cool....
Gibt es dort auch Plätze für wheelcare/ Rollstühle ?
Wie lang im Voraus muss man da bitte buchen für diesen Preis?
Do they have a Cafe car?
How on earth can you find 834 km between Marseille and Lille?
you say the window is too high in the old bar cart - is that true for taller people too? 179 to 189 cm?
thank you