My way has been to skip dopplegang, and loop dig up/shigeki/virtue of strength in a control deck. In one turn you can go basically infinite mana and tutor out an outrageous robbery to exile their whole deck. Every time I tried dopplegang, the game crashed. I outrageous robbery'd an opponents dopplegang even after I stopped using it, and even with x=2 to purposefully keep it low, hitting virtue of strength still crashed the game.
If you have enough mana, one way to establish absolute dominance is to make one of your Doppelgang targets a Field of Ruin and start nuking the opponent's lands. Most people don't run many basic lands, so the odds are pretty high that at some point you'll just start strip mining them.
Nah, that's worthless. I made an infinite turns deck that could just exile literally everything they had, lands, board, hand, graveyard and library, but you cast the first timewalk and they just nope the fuck out. Can't have any fun.
@@LlywellynOBrien I mean, isn't it? Aggro decks can literally one-shot you on turn 3, before your 2nd land ever untaps. Then you play your first card in the game and they scoop? Who's denying who the fun?
@@metalhev3989 fair point. I know on Arena when I used to play I often wished there was a way to signal whether you'd like people to stay. I know when I knew I was beaten I was often torn. Half the time I thought 'this person might be having this work for the first time and I should stay to let them enjoy it' and the other half of the time I thought something like 'oh man this person is probably just grinding for some quick wins, I should scoop so that I don't waste their time'.
24:20 Lol after an entire game of just counterspelling his opponent, our heroic azorius player rage quits and salt ropes after his opponent copies a bunch of lands
I mean he copied his cavernous maws and mindsplices creature lands are annoying to deal with let alone 8 of them. It wasn’t just a regular land he copied.
My version of the deck, which i invented one month ago seems a bit more consistent: i play the capenna fetch lands, and for ramp green and blue virtue, deeproot wayfinder, glimpse, and the best ramp card in standard my opinion: cosmic rebirth
Yes and no. With a big enough Silver Scrutiny we're all set on card draw. In an aggro meta it's more important to dig a little deeper to find key interaction with Augury compared to the incremental card advantage from Beanstalk. But it's certainly a card I would want in the 75 for the grindy matchups.
Hinata changes the math and is easy to splash with mirrex and sunken citadel the math becomes 4 6 8 to get 1 2 3 permanent and copies. Without Hinata it's 5 8 11 which are huge gaps and with Hinata you can easily ramp into giant dopplegang with repository skaab copies to get doppelgang back and repeat as much as you'd like
Hinata will get instantly vaporized the nanosecond she hits the battlefield. The power of decks like this comes from being really hard to interact, and mindsplice is already the weak link there.
@@metalhev3989 sure removal answers everything but if you deploy Hinata when the time is right then it won't matter as you only need her to be alive for the first doppelgang the rest of the doppelgang will have enough mana from the first and you want repository skaab to copy so you can get doppelgang back over and over
@@LegenVD I was surprised that you didn't run a full playset of some blue and white cards but went will all 4 Union of the Third Path. Why not have that extra Syncopate, or perhaps one more removal spell, and go down to 3 Union?
@@SpeakerWiggin49Can definitely play around with the numbers, but Union is key in the monored macthup. Since it's the most played deck in best-of-one I think it's worth it.
At this point if you see Legend as your opp you will know that you are about to lose the game, but you also know that it will be interesting to watch. 🙂
I don't understand why you are worried about not using your mana effectively vs a burn deck, eating 4 face damage when you are below 10 is simply a bad idea. Mana efficiency doesn't really matter if you remove all their threats and force them to top deck with no card draw
I will never understand how people have fun just playing those control/counter/only do actions on your turn/only fun for me but not for thee decks. Those decks are so frustratingly boring.
This is the jank I need straight into my veins, thank you LVD
Opponents who are about to lose always seem to have the worst internet connections eh? Thanks for the great content man.
The mindsplice apparatus ETB sound effect is so satisfying.
The sweet sound of a value engine whirring up
This does make more sense than Mtggoldfish’s method of getting like 8 lands out lol
My way has been to skip dopplegang, and loop dig up/shigeki/virtue of strength in a control deck. In one turn you can go basically infinite mana and tutor out an outrageous robbery to exile their whole deck. Every time I tried dopplegang, the game crashed. I outrageous robbery'd an opponents dopplegang even after I stopped using it, and even with x=2 to purposefully keep it low, hitting virtue of strength still crashed the game.
Could always Cauldron infinite combo it turn 4 instead
If you have enough mana, one way to establish absolute dominance is to make one of your Doppelgang targets a Field of Ruin and start nuking the opponent's lands. Most people don't run many basic lands, so the odds are pretty high that at some point you'll just start strip mining them.
Nah, that's worthless. I made an infinite turns deck that could just exile literally everything they had, lands, board, hand, graveyard and library, but you cast the first timewalk and they just nope the fuck out. Can't have any fun.
@@metalhev3989I love that you have worded that so that they are the one denying people fun :p
@@LlywellynOBrien I mean, isn't it? Aggro decks can literally one-shot you on turn 3, before your 2nd land ever untaps. Then you play your first card in the game and they scoop? Who's denying who the fun?
@@metalhev3989 fair point. I know on Arena when I used to play I often wished there was a way to signal whether you'd like people to stay.
I know when I knew I was beaten I was often torn. Half the time I thought 'this person might be having this work for the first time and I should stay to let them enjoy it' and the other half of the time I thought something like 'oh man this person is probably just grinding for some quick wins, I should scoop so that I don't waste their time'.
Mindsplice and Doppelgang are two cards that I'll always watch videos on- they're just so cool. They're the Roaming Throne of their respective sets.
Doppelgang is one of the coolest super jank cards ever printed
I've been playing a cool landfall doppelgang explorer deck and it's fun as hell.
Big shoutout to Kenshin, for allowing us to witness a fraction of the actual power level of the deck!
Who knew Battousai the Manslayer was such a good sport
24:20 Lol after an entire game of just counterspelling his opponent, our heroic azorius player rage quits and salt ropes after his opponent copies a bunch of lands
Pretty crazy how this type of stuff happens even on the MTG channel and they still do nothing about it
@@NickTemperisticwhat should they do about it? Genuinely curious.
I mean he copied his cavernous maws and mindsplices creature lands are annoying to deal with let alone 8 of them. It wasn’t just a regular land he copied.
Oops all counters into salt rope, the classic gandalf experience
@@dantheman20100i don't think that was their point tbf
This is a really cool deck.
Yesh mindsplice makes so much sense here. Awesome job as usual Luca! Decks like this make me miss Hydriod Krasis SO much xD
I really like ramp version of the deck combined with the virtue of strength
This deck looks SO much fun. Don’t care how competitively viable it is, I’m cooking this up for sure.
I’ve been seeing the mindsplice apparatus a lot lately and it always beats me.
I’ll build my Doppelgang Kiora beats the sea god one day. For the 8 mana Doppelgang, you get 5 Krakens.
Dopplejank
I JUST realized that Dopplegang makes X tokens of X targets, not one copy of X targets. Wow.
I love cavernous maw
And duplicates cool too I guess
My version of the deck, which i invented one month ago seems a bit more consistent: i play the capenna fetch lands, and for ramp green and blue virtue, deeproot wayfinder, glimpse, and the best ramp card in standard my opinion: cosmic rebirth
Nice deck. Sadly can’t afford wildcards.
Would Up The Beanstalk be good in this deck?
Seems like it would provide a lot of card draw
Yeah. Probably better than Experimental Augury.
Yes and no. With a big enough Silver Scrutiny we're all set on card draw. In an aggro meta it's more important to dig a little deeper to find key interaction with Augury compared to the incremental card advantage from Beanstalk. But it's certainly a card I would want in the 75 for the grindy matchups.
Hinata changes the math and is easy to splash with mirrex and sunken citadel the math becomes 4 6 8 to get 1 2 3 permanent and copies. Without Hinata it's 5 8 11 which are huge gaps and with Hinata you can easily ramp into giant dopplegang with repository skaab copies to get doppelgang back and repeat as much as you'd like
Hinata will get instantly vaporized the nanosecond she hits the battlefield. The power of decks like this comes from being really hard to interact, and mindsplice is already the weak link there.
@@metalhev3989 sure removal answers everything but if you deploy Hinata when the time is right then it won't matter as you only need her to be alive for the first doppelgang the rest of the doppelgang will have enough mana from the first and you want repository skaab to copy so you can get doppelgang back over and over
Apparatus seems pretty crucial to the deck. Any reason not to run a full set of it?
Don't always want to draw multiples and we have some card selection from Augury to find the first copy.
@@LegenVD I was surprised that you didn't run a full playset of some blue and white cards but went will all 4 Union of the Third Path. Why not have that extra Syncopate, or perhaps one more removal spell, and go down to 3 Union?
@@SpeakerWiggin49Can definitely play around with the numbers, but Union is key in the monored macthup. Since it's the most played deck in best-of-one I think it's worth it.
Jace is Back!!! 😢
"Opponent seems to have disconnected"
one invasion could add more spice to the deck
Deck needs repository skaab ❤
At this point if you see Legend as your opp you will know that you are about to lose the game, but you also know that it will be interesting to watch. 🙂
No Invasion of Arcavios sadge
I don't understand why you are worried about not using your mana effectively vs a burn deck, eating 4 face damage when you are below 10 is simply a bad idea. Mana efficiency doesn't really matter if you remove all their threats and force them to top deck with no card draw
I've watched probably hundreds of your videos but what the heck are you saying in the beginning of every video "standard _____ video". Game tech?
gameplay :)
Lol
String the match and then plays a lockdown thinking it was gonna work lol get rekt!
Temporary lockdown & deadly cover up meta is making standard hell for aggro decks lol
this is a cool build but I think it's more fun to copy virtue of strength 7 times and crash the game by tapping a basic.
Day 4 asking for a crashing footfalls deck
i just played against this deck, they crashed the game with it so we got a draw LOL
this is bad
Oops.
I will never understand how people have fun just playing those control/counter/only do actions on your turn/only fun for me but not for thee decks. Those decks are so frustratingly boring.