This is a great all round focal range that I love. This year I bought the newest Sony 20-70mm and sold my older 24-70. Love that it’s smaller and lightweight and a fantastic lens.
Your photos are just amazing. I ended up getting the Sony 20-70 F4. It is super sharp, as sharp as the 24-70 GM II, and I love it. It ended up replacing my 24-105, which I hardly ever use any more. I love how the layers are sharp from front to back. I would love to see a video on focus stacking, how you determine when to use it over cranking up the aperture, how many shots you typically take, how you manage or avoid leaves/branches moving, and how you process you stacks. I have come home way too many times with an inadequate number of shots for the A7RV or too much motion to stack.
I just returned the Sony 20-70 F4 and got the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8. I need better low-light capabilities, and it's said to be almost as good as the GM II. It's half the price!
My 24-105 is probably my most used lens. It usually allows me to capture whatever is in my head without switching lenses. If not I’ll use my 100-400. I actually don’t own a 16-35. If I want wider I’m forced to make a pano. Love the video Will! I can’t wait to be in NZ later this week
My Canon 24-105 is certainly a prized possession, and I consider it the glue that holds it all together, wedged in between my wide-angle lens and my 100-400. They're all good friends of mine.
The ultimate answer is to shoot stitched panoramas. It is wide field of view that people want but think that a wide angle lens will do it. A moderate tele with a 3-5 shot stitch will give that look
My main camera setup is the Sony a1 + Sony 24-105 for general landscape with the Sony 16-35PZ and Sigma 100-400. When travelling light in the campervan, my setup is the a7c along with the Tamron 28-200. Works well for me 😊
Words of wisdom there. I generally use a range of prime lenses, but if I need to travel light, especially if I'm fliying somewhere, I just stick on a Nikon 24/85, and it does pretty much everything I need as a tourist. Landscapes, city scapes, portraits, whatever. Lightweight and of excellent all round quality, it doessn't leave me wishing I'd brought this or that other lens.
Thanks Will. My 24-70 is my absolute workhorse - nearly 75% of my total shots have been done with that lens since I changed to Sony about 2 years ago, although I do have a 70-200 and a 105mm prime macro lens pretty much equally sharing the other 25%. My 18-55 lenses on the older APS-C cameras only accounted for about 40% of total shots, with 200mm and 300mm tele's accounting for 55%. I do wonder if having 61Mpixels to play with has meant I'm being lazy and not changing lenses when (for web display) I can just crop in for a lot of effective extra focal length.
I used a Sigma 17-70 for years and replaced it with a Canon 24-70 L (with IS and better glass) a couple of years ago. All in all the 24-70 is definitely better but I was a little surprised that I missed that lower 7mm as much as I did. But on the plus side, I had developed a habit of "automatic 17mm" and it helps to get away from that. Great video as usual.
The new Nikon Z50 II has a kit with the Z 18-140mm ( 27-210mm FF equiv) zzoooommmmm lens. This lens is the “ants pants” of lenses for focal length flexibility. It is a variable aperture but for landscape shots where you’re going to be F8 to F16, the aperture is not a problem. I had an APS-C DSLR with the G series version DX 18-140mm lens and it never came off that camera. Cheers
I own an old cropped sensor DSLR Nikon, and after one of your videos, I decided to go for a 16-80mm (24-120 full frame equivalent) and it has opened so many possibilities 🤌 now I’m craving wider angles, but I'm also keen to jump to full frame, so it's definitely a decisive time for my journey!
Tricky when you have invested in cropped glass but want to eventually upgrade. Mirrorless will be the best option too, when you do go FF. I say stick it out a little while longer and then look at going FF mirrorless with an ultra wide and mid-range. At least for now you have a great focal range to work with but yes it is quite limited on the wide aspect. If budget is tight for some time, maybe try grab a second hand ultra-wide for your current body.
@WilliamPatinoPhonography That is so true, and I can’t say I didn’t see myself in this position back then, but it has and will keep me busy and inspired a tad longer! Plus, it is one of the sharpest DX Nikon glasses I’ve used. Mirrorless will definitely be my next buy 😀
I had the Z mount 24-70 f/4 for 5 1/2 years. It came with my original Z6 prior to the f/2.8 release. I have also had the F mount version of the 2.8 for a really, really long time. It has always been my workhorse. So, I have been struggling with purchasing the Z mount 2.8. But couldn’t justify it. Well, I was recently at the Oregon coast and fell climbing on some rocks. My camera survived without a scratch, however I can’t same the same for my f/4 lens. It was thrashed. Thusly, my decision to purchase the f/2.8 was made for me. 😂 Honestly, I didn’t do it on purpose. lol
Personally I feel that the most impactful landscapes are those that show some kind of unique perspective on the world. In terms of focal length that means either very wide or very narrow depending on the scene. Now focal length certainly isn't the only way you give a unique perspective: most people never see the world from low to the ground upward, or from the sky downward, or even just as simply as an otherworldly scenery or some unique light conditions. But this is why I feel for pure landscape, a wide and telephoto combination works better (like a 16-35 and 50-400)
Yes I agree and that’s why I say that if you only had one lens, the mid range is probably the most versatile but realistically as a landscape photographer, having all three main lenses is critical. The majority of my work is on the wider end.
Scored a 12-24 sigma ex dg hsm for my d800 should be here in week My mid is a Nikon 24-85 and then I bought 28-200 which I'll replace w Nikon 80-400. Saw your capturing waves video and down to try my hand at that. Good content as always Will.
I do have the sony 20-70 and is great. Also the 28-200 from Tamron and it is quite good actually but it won’t solve your issue at 28mm not being wide enough.
I had a Tamron 24-70mm in f mount that I had bought when I bought my d750. I had to replace the d750 after a trip to the beach and bought a z6 II. The Tamron G2 lens is quite sharp and works well on a Nikon. It wasn't quite as sharp corner to corner and it has focus breathing. That made it harder to focus stack images. I now have a native 24-70mm s z lens. There is little to no focus breathing and it's sharper corner to corner. It's a sharper lens overall. I opted for the 14-30mm f/4 over the 14-24mm f/2.8. It's a great lens but it's heavier, more expensive and I would have bought another filter set just to use it. That would have been added cost. At some point I may come across a good deal in a used one. I still have my Sigma sport 70-200mm. It's the only f mount besides my film camera lenses I have left. I wasn't the Nikon version but it'll have to wait.
Interesting about the difference with the focus breathing. There’s always some trade off but native glass will always be best. Thanks for sharing and supporting the channel.
More words of wisdom Will. Using Olympus and 4/3, I swear blind by the Oly ed 12-50mm tele/macro hybrid kit lens which equates to your big boys' 24-100mm.
I have a Tamron 28-75mm lens and it’s a nice enough lens. However, if you like to do astroastrophotography, my particular copy has pretty bad comatic aberration.
My main camera setup is the Sony a1 + Sony 24-105 for general landscape with the Sony 16-35PZ and Sigma 100-400. When travelling light in the campervan, my setup is the a7c along with the Tamron 28-200. Works well for me 😊
Awesome. As others have said, Nikon's 24-120 focal range is almost a cheat code as far as work horse lenses go....and tack sharp!
Yeah very nice! Thanks :)
This is a great all round focal range that I love. This year I bought the newest Sony 20-70mm and sold my older 24-70. Love that it’s smaller and lightweight and a fantastic lens.
Definitely got my eye on that. Glad to know you are happy with it! Thanks Patricia :)
Your photos are just amazing. I ended up getting the Sony 20-70 F4. It is super sharp, as sharp as the 24-70 GM II, and I love it. It ended up replacing my 24-105, which I hardly ever use any more. I love how the layers are sharp from front to back. I would love to see a video on focus stacking, how you determine when to use it over cranking up the aperture, how many shots you typically take, how you manage or avoid leaves/branches moving, and how you process you stacks. I have come home way too many times with an inadequate number of shots for the A7RV or too much motion to stack.
Good to hear the f4 is just as sharp. That cuts down some weight too. Sounds like a good idea for videos. Thanks for the support mate :)
I just returned the Sony 20-70 F4 and got the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8. I need better low-light capabilities, and it's said to be almost as good as the GM II. It's half the price!
My 24-105 is probably my most used lens. It usually allows me to capture whatever is in my head without switching lenses.
If not I’ll use my 100-400. I actually don’t own a 16-35. If I want wider I’m forced to make a pano.
Love the video Will! I can’t wait to be in NZ later this week
Awesome mate, I’m sure you’ll have a great time 😊👊🏻
Perfect timing! Currently standing in amongst some lupins faffing about with compositions and decided to watch your video for further inspiration!🙂
Hopefully you scored that nice light and high cloud we had :)
My Canon 24-105 is certainly a prized possession, and I consider it the glue that holds it all together, wedged in between my wide-angle lens and my 100-400. They're all good friends of mine.
Great team 😅👊🏻
Excellent review and nice pictures with depth. Nikon Z 24-120 F4 which Ibam using is an excelant lens and is on my camera 70% of the time.
Thanks. That’s a great focal range 👌🏻👌🏻
The ultimate answer is to shoot stitched panoramas. It is wide field of view that people want but think that a wide angle lens will do it. A moderate tele with a 3-5 shot stitch will give that look
This. Not to mention your background looks more substantial. I love 100mm panos.
My main camera setup is the Sony a1 + Sony 24-105 for general landscape with the Sony 16-35PZ and Sigma 100-400.
When travelling light in the campervan, my setup is the a7c along with the Tamron 28-200.
Works well for me 😊
Words of wisdom there. I generally use a range of prime lenses, but if I need to travel light, especially if I'm fliying somewhere, I just stick on a Nikon 24/85, and it does pretty much everything I need as a tourist. Landscapes, city scapes, portraits, whatever. Lightweight and of excellent all round quality, it doessn't leave me wishing I'd brought this or that other lens.
It’s a good idea for those that want to travel light, that’s for sure!
I take the Nikon 24-120mm f/4 during the day, plus the light and small 40mm f/2 for the evenings.
Thanks Will. My 24-70 is my absolute workhorse - nearly 75% of my total shots have been done with that lens since I changed to Sony about 2 years ago, although I do have a 70-200 and a 105mm prime macro lens pretty much equally sharing the other 25%. My 18-55 lenses on the older APS-C cameras only accounted for about 40% of total shots, with 200mm and 300mm tele's accounting for 55%. I do wonder if having 61Mpixels to play with has meant I'm being lazy and not changing lenses when (for web display) I can just crop in for a lot of effective extra focal length.
I used a Sigma 17-70 for years and replaced it with a Canon 24-70 L (with IS and better glass) a couple of years ago. All in all the 24-70 is definitely better but I was a little surprised that I missed that lower 7mm as much as I did. But on the plus side, I had developed a habit of "automatic 17mm" and it helps to get away from that. Great video as usual.
Thank you. Ultimately I think having all three main lenses is the best approach and won’t limit creativity in anyway.
The new Nikon Z50 II has a kit with the Z 18-140mm ( 27-210mm FF equiv) zzoooommmmm lens. This lens is the “ants pants” of lenses for focal length flexibility. It is a variable aperture but for landscape shots where you’re going to be F8 to F16, the aperture is not a problem. I had an APS-C DSLR with the G series version DX 18-140mm lens and it never came off that camera. Cheers
Maybe to pair with a ultra wideprime or with the new Z12-28 DX , it would be perfect combo!
I own an old cropped sensor DSLR Nikon, and after one of your videos, I decided to go for a 16-80mm (24-120 full frame equivalent) and it has opened so many possibilities 🤌 now I’m craving wider angles, but I'm also keen to jump to full frame, so it's definitely a decisive time for my journey!
Tricky when you have invested in cropped glass but want to eventually upgrade. Mirrorless will be the best option too, when you do go FF. I say stick it out a little while longer and then look at going FF mirrorless with an ultra wide and mid-range. At least for now you have a great focal range to work with but yes it is quite limited on the wide aspect. If budget is tight for some time, maybe try grab a second hand ultra-wide for your current body.
@WilliamPatinoPhonography That is so true, and I can’t say I didn’t see myself in this position back then, but it has and will keep me busy and inspired a tad longer! Plus, it is one of the sharpest DX Nikon glasses I’ve used. Mirrorless will definitely be my next buy 😀
I had the Z mount 24-70 f/4 for 5 1/2 years. It came with my original Z6 prior to the f/2.8 release. I have also had the F mount version of the 2.8 for a really, really long time. It has always been my workhorse. So, I have been struggling with purchasing the Z mount 2.8. But couldn’t justify it. Well, I was recently at the Oregon coast and fell climbing on some rocks. My camera survived without a scratch, however I can’t same the same for my f/4 lens. It was thrashed. Thusly, my decision to purchase the f/2.8 was made for me. 😂 Honestly, I didn’t do it on purpose. lol
Haha. We've all been there. The upgrades inevitably happen one way or another.
Great tips! Thanks!
Cheers mate
Personally I feel that the most impactful landscapes are those that show some kind of unique perspective on the world. In terms of focal length that means either very wide or very narrow depending on the scene. Now focal length certainly isn't the only way you give a unique perspective: most people never see the world from low to the ground upward, or from the sky downward, or even just as simply as an otherworldly scenery or some unique light conditions. But this is why I feel for pure landscape, a wide and telephoto combination works better (like a 16-35 and 50-400)
Yes I agree and that’s why I say that if you only had one lens, the mid range is probably the most versatile but realistically as a landscape photographer, having all three main lenses is critical. The majority of my work is on the wider end.
Scored a 12-24 sigma ex dg hsm for my d800 should be here in week My mid is a Nikon 24-85 and then I bought 28-200 which I'll replace w Nikon 80-400. Saw your capturing waves video and down to try my hand at that. Good content as always Will.
Nice. Didn’t realise you could get 12-24 on the D800. Once you get the 80-400 you’ll have a great setup. Thanks for the support 🙏🏻
I do have the sony 20-70 and is great. Also the 28-200 from Tamron and it is quite good actually but it won’t solve your issue at 28mm not being wide enough.
Yeah great lenses. Sony has a 24-240 but it’s not that great quality unfortunately.
the Sony 20-70/4.0 for all around landscapes, street, etc. Very sharp, i shooting with 62 mpx camera, there is sharp from coner to coner.
Yeah that’s a great focal range. I think I’ll eventually get that to replace my 28-70. Cheers.
Great video! Thank you!!
Thanks a lot mate :)
I had a Tamron 24-70mm in f mount that I had bought when I bought my d750. I had to replace the d750 after a trip to the beach and bought a z6 II. The Tamron G2 lens is quite sharp and works well on a Nikon. It wasn't quite as sharp corner to corner and it has focus breathing. That made it harder to focus stack images. I now have a native 24-70mm s z lens. There is little to no focus breathing and it's sharper corner to corner. It's a sharper lens overall. I opted for the 14-30mm f/4 over the 14-24mm f/2.8. It's a great lens but it's heavier, more expensive and I would have bought another filter set just to use it. That would have been added cost. At some point I may come across a good deal in a used one. I still have my Sigma sport 70-200mm. It's the only f mount besides my film camera lenses I have left. I wasn't the Nikon version but it'll have to wait.
Interesting about the difference with the focus breathing. There’s always some trade off but native glass will always be best. Thanks for sharing and supporting the channel.
More words of wisdom Will. Using Olympus and 4/3, I swear blind by the Oly ed 12-50mm tele/macro hybrid kit lens which equates to your big boys' 24-100mm.
Nice that’s a great range 👌🏻🙏🏻
Got a 28-200 from Tamron and I use it 90% of the time lol. The G Master glass barely gets a look in 😂
Yeah such a great focal range!
Canon RF 24 -240 is great
Nice topic. However, For landscapes, I would prefer 24-120 F4, very sharp and good quality, The difference in sharpness pays off.
I have a Tamron 28-75mm lens and it’s a nice enough lens. However, if you like to do astroastrophotography, my particular copy has pretty bad comatic aberration.
Generally you want to be wider for astro too.
@ That’s where I started (12mm Rokinon, a6300). I use a tracker and want to get a little tighter with more detail (check out Lonely Speck).
20-70 is my go to lens. Covers most things.
Absolutely. Cheers mate.
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Cheers mate :)
24 - 120 for me, 24 - 70 stays at home
My Canon 24-105 mm is responsible for 80+% of my photos.
Great focal range
My main camera setup is the Sony a1 + Sony 24-105 for general landscape with the Sony 16-35PZ and Sigma 100-400.
When travelling light in the campervan, my setup is the a7c along with the Tamron 28-200.
Works well for me 😊
Brilliant setup 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻