NT30 Arbor for the Face Mill...

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • Gday, this video I build a NT/ISO 30 arbor to suit the 50mm face mill, theres a good reason i'm building this so please watch the video and I'll explain why and any information would be greatly appreciated, Thanks for watching, Cheers
    Email - mattysworkshop76@gmail.com
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  • @ryebis
    @ryebis 6 месяцев назад +8

    One for next time, if you really want close to zero run-out you should leave the surface oversized and true it up in the mill spindle. Good job, she'll be alright for what you need and 0.02mm RO is very decent.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +3

      Gday, Ive seen this done before but didn't give it a thought, Appreciate you watching mate, Cheers

    • @ramentaryramblings
      @ramentaryramblings 6 месяцев назад +1

      another thing I thought of too, do your drilled and tapped holes and then turn everything between centers. then you'd have zero run out between your taper and the surface the shell mill sits on (that goes for the back face as well. and if your tapped holes aren't straight it won't matter because turning between them will minimize any mismatch drastically.

  • @RB-yq7qv
    @RB-yq7qv 6 месяцев назад +5

    Mat I had a funny feeling when you where getting the trailer ready for a 500KM road trip a new machine was coming to the shop. I could not hear any excessive noise from the bearings. If you only getting 0.0001 runout from the spindle I would say the spindle drive is in perfect health.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, The trailer repair was after I picked the machine up, I was on another mission for a mate when I did the 500k trip, the mill pickup was a 1000k adventure, was a fun day to, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

  • @jonsworkshop
    @jonsworkshop 6 месяцев назад +2

    You can go off people you know!!! 😆. I am not in the least bit jealous 😭😭😭. Well done mate, good score, and in my opinion the pulley change heads are far more durable than the vari drive versions. Spindle sounds ok, heard far worse. I would start with your X Axis gib adjustment based on the noises you are getting, followed by Y. Got to ask yourself why the traverse gear is mangled.......start there and work backwards. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday Jon, Im pretty stoked to have this mill, I've done some more investgating today and I believe I've found the issue, I really don't mind the step pulley setup, its not that hard to change the belt speed at all and its quite, Appreciate you watching as always mate, Cheers

  • @acmemachining
    @acmemachining 6 месяцев назад +5

    Congrats on new machine. Always nice to get more equipment in the shop. I am trying to convince my wife I need a bigger shop, but she says I will just get more stuff and then need a bigger shop again. Great Video.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday, Thats the problem with this hobby, we keep filling all the spaces and always need a bigger workshop, Thanks for watching mate., Cheers

    • @DavidSchmitt
      @DavidSchmitt 6 месяцев назад +1

      No lies detected 😂

  • @johnmoore1025
    @johnmoore1025 6 месяцев назад +7

    It's always a good day when matty has a video out, love the new machine and can't wait to see it getting used

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks mate, Glad your enjoying the videos, Im pretty keen to get the mill sorted and start putting it top use properly, Cheers

  • @hilltopmachineworks2131
    @hilltopmachineworks2131 6 месяцев назад +1

    Congrats on the new mill. A little birdie had told me you got one. Wondering when you were going to spill the beans. Since your mill is a Bridgeport clone, I imagine a Bridgeport manual would work for you if you can't locate a First manual for it. What brand of cutter is that face mill?

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday Tom, I wonder who that little birdie was🤔, I have been lucky enough to get all the information on the mill from First today, The face mill was brought from Hare And Forbes here in Australia, I think its a Tool Master brand from memory, Appreciate you watching mate, Cheers

    • @hilltopmachineworks2131
      @hilltopmachineworks2131 6 месяцев назад

      Glad First got back to you. I found the manual for it on lathes. Co. Uk. After doing some searching.@@MattysWorkshop

  • @terrycannon570
    @terrycannon570 6 месяцев назад +2

    Matty I have a Bridgeport Clone marketed as McClane. Made in China but the head is made in Tiawan. The same mill is marketed in many different brands. Even the PM Mathews is the same mill. AS well as Sharp and Acer and many many more. The only manual I could find is branded Birmingham. I have the paper copy that I could take a picture of the belt drive head and email it to you if that would help. My quill kept falling down with any weight at all on it. I took the handle off and looked inside on the right side and the clock spring had came off. It is really simple to work on as I took pictures as I took it apart. I prefer the belt drive because it is so much Quiter. I gutted the electrical panel and put a VFD inside the panel and it is quite as a church mouse, and I do not have to change pulleys to have variable speed. I absolutely love. it. I very seldom use my PM Mathews 833T gear drive mill anymore because of the difference in noise and speed. Thanks for bringing us along.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +2

      Gday Terry, Thanks to a viewer I was able to get in contact with the company here in Australia that sell the First Mill, These guys were kind enough to send me a parts breakdown and parts list of the mill, I got super lucky mate, I really don't mind the step pulley setup now I have the VFD, Appreciate you watching mate, Cheers

  • @theoutbackshed
    @theoutbackshed 6 месяцев назад +4

    Another great build Matty, very inspirational. Cheers Steve O

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks very Steve, You have me thinking after watching the tru-set chuck build, That was fantastic, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @RalfyCustoms
    @RalfyCustoms 6 месяцев назад +2

    G'day Matty, 7.00am here, fresh coffee and I'm settling down to watch this mate, I know from the start you'll have made an epic job of it, hope you're keeping well buddy, have a great one, and thanks for sharing

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +2

      Morning Ralfy, hope you feeling better mate, Enjoy ya coffee, im just cooking some curried snags for dinner, Cheers

    • @RalfyCustoms
      @RalfyCustoms 6 месяцев назад

      Enjoy mate 👍🏻

  • @pauldehaan3574
    @pauldehaan3574 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Matty, very nice work on the NT 30 arbor.....nice find on the new mill.....i know your going to enjoy that.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks mate, Once I sort out the couple of little things I think its going be a fantastic machine, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @theoldstationhand
    @theoldstationhand 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Matty, I know a guy down the coast that could probably make a gear like that 🤔Does the table swivel on the cincinnati? What HP is the motor? The VFD seems to work well - I'd like to put one on my Maho, but there is too much control gear in it. All the best mate. Cheers

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +2

      G'day, I wish I could make this gear but sadly im not setup to do helical gears, thats way above my brain cell level, I have a 3hp Vfd and the mill is 2hp motor, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

  • @alungiggs
    @alungiggs 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hi. Nice work again Matty. The new machine looks like a pretty solid bit of kit once one or two snags are sorted. Anyway, greetings from Amsterdam 👍🇳🇱

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +2

      Gday, Im really happy with the mill so far considering its age and condition, Truly appreciate you watching, Cheers

  • @garyc5483
    @garyc5483 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great job on the arbour Matty. The slight cushion at the top of the quill travel is a good thing. Saves the quill whacking the bottom of the spindle when you let go of the handle. I had an old Richmond mill that was the same. Never gave any problems. ATB regards from the UK

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +2

      Gday, In one way its a good thing for sure but worries me in another way that its not right, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

  • @stewartfrye
    @stewartfrye 6 месяцев назад +2

    Fantastic new addition, Snuck that in on us. A quill, who hooooo. Nice face mill holder job too. If you give us a way, to contribute to spindle bearing and DRO fund, I have a few spare bucks to give back to ya, seriously let us know... WHOOOO HOOO a new mill.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday, Thanks very much for your offer, i'm just going to see how I go over the next few months with the YT revenue, Im hoping the bearings only need an adjustment and not replacing, I can get away without a dro for a while and go back to hand wheels and dial indicators, Just means its a bit slower thats all, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

  • @tanyaziller7601
    @tanyaziller7601 6 месяцев назад +1

    That is a bridgeport clone, mine had issue with sticking quill and I found the collar around the quill stop screw was slightly cocked. it rides up and down the front window with a close tolerance to the machine and if off slightly it would drag. Mine would get out of alignment when it sprang up to the top. I simply turned it to square with the window with a crescent wrench, spanner to you I believe, and it worked smoothly. Of course this was after complete disassembly and reassembly. I also loosened the return spring for the quill so it does not return as hard. Hope yours is the same, if so it will take less than a minute to correct. This is the collar that surrounds the quill stop screw. Look in the back part where it attaches to the quill and its square shoulder clearance to the machined vertical slot.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, Thanks very much for the heads up i'll check that out and see how I go, Much appreciated mate, Cheers

  • @Rustinox
    @Rustinox 6 месяцев назад +1

    Nice! Anew milling machine. And it looks real good too. Congratulations.
    And working without DRO is perfectly possible. Even I can :)

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday Rustinox, Thanks very much, It makes you think a lot more when you don't have a dro, Appreciate you watching mate, Cheers

  • @Yantoo
    @Yantoo 6 месяцев назад

    ❤❤

  • @Desmouffe
    @Desmouffe 6 месяцев назад

    Nice work. Now I think I dare to make a flycutter to my mill

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, thanks very much, you can’t beat a fly cutter finish mate, appreciate you watching, cheers

  • @D40..
    @D40.. 6 месяцев назад +1

    Gday Matty nice job as always I had to make an nt30 arbor for a tapping chuck all worked out fine but the material I used was the hardest I have ever machined I had to use ceramic inserts for the whole job

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, I have to get some ceramic inserts myself, I have some stock here I need to get the case hardening off, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

  • @ralphpavero7760
    @ralphpavero7760 6 месяцев назад +2

    Congratulations on the new mill machine she is a beautiful piece that is my dream machine .looks like your feeling better thank goodness

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday, Im pretty excited to have the mill, its been a long to coming thats for sure, Appreciate you watching, Cheers

  • @TheAyrCaveShop
    @TheAyrCaveShop 6 месяцев назад

    Nice work on the adapter Matty !
    Congrats on the new mill.. Other than the 30 taper it looks like very close if not exact copy of a J head Bridgeport. If all else fails there some good rebuild manuals for the Bridgeport.
    Cheers....ATB....

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday Dean, I'm pretty sure there all the same when its all boiled down, I was lucky enough to get the information from First today thankfully, Appreciate you watching and commenting mate, Cheers

  • @endemiller5463
    @endemiller5463 6 месяцев назад

    I'm sure ClickSpring could make you a 9mm gear! Or Mark Presling could make one in any colour you wanted! Kurtis could obviously make you a 900mm one! What a nice problem to have - I'm envious a little. God Bless

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday, Im hoping I can get a replacement gear to keep the machine original, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

  • @MyLilMule
    @MyLilMule 6 месяцев назад

    New machine day is always the best day! Those spindle bearings are expensive. $340 US for the set for my R8 spindle.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday Greg, The bearings aren't cheap thats for sure, thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @RobertBrown-lf8yq
    @RobertBrown-lf8yq 6 месяцев назад

    Wooooo Hooooo 🥳🥳
    A spindle rebuild 👏👏👏
    No disappointment there for us mate….. it means another Matty’s Workshop video
    😎
    Can’t wait mate…. Sand that turret mill looks to have been well cared for.
    Regards
    Robert
    PS Does it have a quill auto feed?

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday Robert, Its not going to be a complete strip down and i'm pretty happy about that, for a 1980 model machine its in good condition overall and it does have a auto feed on the quill, Appreciate you watching mate, Cheers

  • @mikesworkshopadventures
    @mikesworkshopadventures 6 месяцев назад

    Hi Matty.
    Great video Matty. Loved the machining. Your new mill looks great. I have a couple of Tom Senior mills with no quill and will be keeping my mill drill as want the height. The Tom Seniors are a small horizontal mill with a vertical knuckle attachment. Keep well cheers Mike

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, The biggest reason for getting this mill is for Z height, The Cincinnati is very limited, Appreciate you watching, Cheers

  • @RepLicanT00100
    @RepLicanT00100 6 месяцев назад

    My biggest apologies !! I just realised I have not been a subscriber until now ..
    I get notified , I watch then like…but never have I been subscribed.
    🤦🏻 . Sorted now.
    Appreciate your work. Probably more so the little chuckles at your own joke in each video you make .. 🤣 gets me every time.
    Cheers 🍻

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, no need to apologise and thanks for subscribing, the same has happened to me as well, I glad you enjoy the videos mate, cheers

  • @thepagan5432
    @thepagan5432 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Matty, good post mate, enjoyed it.
    We had a mill that was branded to "Sharp", but was a 'First' mill, made by Long Chang Machinery Co., Taiwan. Had to get a manual off them but had to pay. As for the right spot on the quill, block the quill so it won't fall on your toes. Take out the handle and you will remove the pinion, could be a clue on that. You could also have a look at the rack through the pinion hole. Regards to you and family 👍

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +2

      Gday, Ive been lucky enough to get the information from First on the mill today, I just have to start finding the issue now, Appreciate you watching and commenting mate, Cheers

  • @nobbysworkshop
    @nobbysworkshop 6 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic job on the arbour Matty. You always produce incredible finishes. Love your new mill. I'm sure you will sort out all the problems. Well done mate. Cheers Nobby

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday Nobby, The arbor turned out alright in the end mate, I like shiny tools to, Appreciate you watching as always, Cheers

  • @billdoodson4232
    @billdoodson4232 6 месяцев назад +1

    Congratulations on what looks like a really nice, new to you mill and good to see you looking so chipper Matty.
    I bought a universal mill (1966 vintage) in really good condition, which is still being set up, which is ISO40 on both spindles. I priced up EN8 (1045) material to make some new tool holders, which would have been around £40 per holder. My local tooling merchant, also one of the UK's biggest suppliers had a January offer of YG-1 ISO40 tooling, balanced to 15K, at just over £20 each. I ended up splurging rather more than I originally intended on 10 of various types, I quite simply couldn't justify machining them myself.
    Have a look at Tom's Rabbit Hole, he now has the ability to hob helical gears on his much modified mill, he may be able to help out.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, Bill, I found thew same thing here, I was looking at making my own collet arbors first, I ended up buying one for $49, By the time I brought a collet nut and material it was well over the $49 and still had to do the machining, I also brought a ISO30-MT3 for $44, Ive been following Tom for quite a while, He is bloody amazing and im fascinated with what's he's done, its truly a work out art mate, truly appreciate you watching and commenting, Cheers

  • @kelvinmears2759
    @kelvinmears2759 6 месяцев назад

    I have a LIOHO version of what you have. Really, really close to Bridgeport. I believe they were made under license. I doubt your spindle bearings a re bad, but your call. Get the DRO's sorted before bearings I reckon. Love your work.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, Im hoping the spindle bearings only need an adjustment, fingers crossed anyway, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

  • @paulcooper9135
    @paulcooper9135 6 месяцев назад

    Mechanic, not machinist ... BUT ... that quill bearing definitely sounds Dry, not Worn to my ears. I would hazard that it's similar to Curtis' mill that just needed lube every so often to silence it, and runout wasn't an issue.
    Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday, Im pretty sure I've found the issue in the spindle at this stage, nothing money won't fix as they say mate, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @AllanBirch-yw4cc
    @AllanBirch-yw4cc 6 месяцев назад

    I have zero knowledge of milling machines but I’ve taken the liberty of emailing the Chinese manufacturer of your mill, requesting a manual, including specification data. I ‘inherited’ a Chinese made bench lathe. I emailed the manufacturer in China who provided me with an ADOBE PDF manual. It was in German but using Google Translate, I converted it to English.
    If the Long Chang Machine Company come through with a manual, I’ll send it straight to you.
    I hope you don’t consider me to be meddling. Just want to help out where I can.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, Thanks very much and truly appreciated mate, Cheers

  • @alextaskov4084
    @alextaskov4084 6 месяцев назад

    Hi Mate,
    I have a First LC-1 1/2 mill I bought new just over a year ago. I have the manuals for both the TM and VS heads. I can send through a copy of the manual & parts list if you want.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday, Thanks very much for your offer, I've been lucky enough to get a copy today from First, They were extremely helpful mate, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @Steviegtr52
    @Steviegtr52 6 месяцев назад

    Hi Matty. What a lovely milling machine. Huge . Wonder if there is some wear at begining of quill travel from it been probably used more at that part than the rest of the travel. Splines worn maybe. Enjoy.
    Steve.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday Steve, At this stage I think i've found the main issue in the spindle mate, Fingers crossed anyway, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @ED_T
    @ED_T 3 месяца назад

    Nice job Matty! This really is the best kind of face mill for a bridgeport type machine. I use mine all the time for when I need to take off a lot of metal. I let it run about 500-600 rpm with a 300mm/min or so feed rate and just let it eat

  • @samrodian919
    @samrodian919 6 месяцев назад

    G'day Matty, sorry only got to this today ( Saturday) nice job mate. 0.02 runout is pretty good even with the suspected spindle bearing problem. If you do have to replace them, then theoretically the runout should be even less. Presumably the bearings will be taper roller ones, so the replacement of them should be pretty straightforward mate. Anyway you'll get it sorted knowing you Matty . Is there a visual ding on the outside surface of the quill around the place where it goes tight? Hopefully it's something like that, that you can stone down to ease it. Cheers from England, Sam

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday Sam, there annular contact bearings and there getting replaced, once the spindle is out I can have a good look at the internal taper, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @624Dudley
    @624Dudley 6 месяцев назад

    Hello Matty, I gather the Servo brand Type 70 power feed is an older model, since it’s not offered on the company site nowadays. Being in the States, I can probably help source the drive gear. I’ll send you an email. 👍

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks very much mate, I got your email, Cheers

  • @paulcurtis2779
    @paulcurtis2779 6 месяцев назад

    Fantastic job on the Arbor. . really looks good. . Awesome that you have a new mill. . Is there an update on your medical condition? How is the Funding for your medical expenses going? Is there enough?? Your TEAM is here so just say so ! ! !

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday Paul, I put an update out a little while ago, I’m in remission thankfully but there’s quite a few other issues they are trying to sort out, we are ok financially at the present moment, I have many more trips away to Canberra hospital coming up over the next few years but I’m sure we’ll be ok, appreciate you support mate, cheers

  • @darrenblattner2508
    @darrenblattner2508 6 месяцев назад +1

    I'll bet Keith Fenner could help you out. While he has not worked on that brand (that I know of) He has had a few apart. He's a very smart feller. Keep Smilin

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday, I have look through Keiths videos and see what I can find, Cheers

  • @azenginerd9498
    @azenginerd9498 6 месяцев назад

    If you are not familiar, H & W Machine Repair channel has a wealth of Bridgeport & clone information. And they may be a great source for parts... but maybe not cost effective shipping across the equator.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, I've had a look at there videos and there very helpful, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

  • @Churchill250267
    @Churchill250267 6 месяцев назад

    Hi Matty! Excellent video and congrats on the new mill! With regards to the spindle bearings, have you considered dropping Keith Rucker a shout? Hope your health is holding up and the Mrs is well.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday, Thanks very much, i've managed to get all the information today from First, These guys were extremely helpful, The health is going ok, still not 100% yet but I'll get there mate, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @HaxbyShed
    @HaxbyShed 6 месяцев назад

    Hi Matty, I got one of those in a job lot - all done except the end was not drilled and threaded. And then I dried to drill and tap it I found out why it was unfinished !! No drill or tap I have would touch it. And so a quick job became a long job .... all in a future video when I get a slot for it. Cheers Paul

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday Paul, that sounds like an interesting video coming up mate, Thanks for watching and commenting, Cheers

  • @garysgarage101
    @garysgarage101 6 месяцев назад

    Very exciting to have a new mill, looks like it’s in great condition. Pull a belt off when spinning that arbour by hand to see if it’s the bearing or just he motor noise. Sounds similar to mine and the bearings are good. Some lubricant (spray mist) may help with the squeal. That’s excellent runout on the arbour, I doubt there’s anything wrong with the bearings considering the condition of the machine. I added a quill DRO on mine, just an idea to look into ruclips.net/video/hww_Lm_e3oA/видео.htmlsi=rBgSQsMB6kxkwVZv

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, Ive had the belt off and the bearings sound pretty quite, im still looking at taking the spindle out just to have a good look at the bearings though, I'll check the link out, definitely going to need a quill DRO at some stage, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

  • @josephlovell6951
    @josephlovell6951 6 месяцев назад

    I am 80% sure that is the same as a bridgeport. I have a millport. Its a colne as well. H&W machine has a lot of video on RUclips. Thats where i started with my mill. I did find a guy that put 3 lower bearing in them. To make them better i believe they call it a 6 pack upgrade.. hope that helps

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, I’ve been watching the H&W channel, there’s a heap of helpful information there, appreciate you watching, cheers

  • @RobB_VK6ES
    @RobB_VK6ES 4 месяца назад

    old school fix for stripped teeth is to bronze weld up and recut teeth

  • @davidlegault9745
    @davidlegault9745 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Matty, congratulations on your new mill. I'm looking forward to watching you get it dialed in. Good luck finding the manuals. Regards, Dave

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday Dave, hopefully its not going to take to much dealing in, I'll be happy if the spindle bearings only need an adjustment, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

  • @ianmoone2359
    @ianmoone2359 6 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting video Matty. Congrats on the new mill, it took me a good 12 months+ to recover from buying my mill, so I know the hip pocket pain well & sympathise.
    Could Max maybe make the helical gear for you perhaps?
    I actually have a dividing head with all the gears and banjos to cut helical gears, but I just don’t have the knowledge or skill yet.
    Maybe Max could borrow it and make the gear you need with it?
    Gotta be a way to get it sorted for you.
    Maybe you shoot across to WA & do a collaborative task with Max & you both film it or something? 🤷‍♂️
    I’d help in any way I could.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday Ian, Its going go take a long time to recover from getting this mill thats for sure, i'd love to get to WA one day but cant see that happening any time soon, Ive had a chap in the USA offer to get in touch with Servo and find out if the gear is still available, Im really hoping it is so I can keep then machine original, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

  • @troyam6607
    @troyam6607 6 месяцев назад +1

    the quill sleeve gaurd may be binding Matty on the top stroke of travel, check your height stop window see if you have crap in there. its a tight fit so any swarf may be the culprit

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday Troy, thanks for the tip mate, I'll check that out tomorrow, Cheers

  • @HM-Projects
    @HM-Projects 6 месяцев назад +1

    My sieg mill spindle probably has more run-out 😅 well done.

  • @MrFactotum
    @MrFactotum 6 месяцев назад +3

    hi Matty
    Great addition to workshop👍👍👍👍👍👍
    nice one
    ATB
    Kev

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks very much Kev, im hoping it'll last for many years mate, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @danflemmer1999
    @danflemmer1999 6 месяцев назад

    What DP is your gear? If I have all relevant dimensions and the necessary cutter I'll see if I can make the time to produce one. I do have some ductile iron on hand in size up to 6 inch diameter. . . . Mill feeds are currently in last stage of overhaul, so a good test of that system would be welcome.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday, Thanks very. much for your offer, Im pretty sure a viewer has sourced where I can buy a gear from, if something goes wrong I'll let you know, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @wktodd
    @wktodd 6 месяцев назад

    Matty don't convert to angle, stay with a slope .i.e. the ratio of the length of your sine bar to the taper length (24) it the same as the ratio of the depth of the taper to your gauge block stack , so no tables required just divide and multiply

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, I really wish I payed more attention in maths class at school rather then looking at log trucks going past out the window, I have a lot of trouble when it comes to numbers mate, Cheers

  • @thehobbymachinistnz
    @thehobbymachinistnz 6 месяцев назад

    Good work on the arbor Matty. That new mill looks to be in good nick. I'm sure you will make good use of it.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks very much John, Appreciate you watching, Cheers

  • @wktodd
    @wktodd 6 месяцев назад

    Re :chatter. You might be just asking too much of the mill. It is nowhere near as stiff and rigid as the Cincinnati

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      thats possible but they weren't deep cuts, only about 1.5mm on average which I think it should handle ok

  • @andrewclark8225
    @andrewclark8225 6 месяцев назад

    Yes ! Spindle bearings essential ! You will spend more on worn or broken end mills than the cost of a couple of bearings 😮

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      I dare say its going to get a new set of bearing mate, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @briancurle6223
    @briancurle6223 6 месяцев назад

    Would thicker drive dogs soothe your conscience? Nice job as usual

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Thats could be a good option mate, It would certainly look a lot better, Thanks for watching...

  • @MartsGarage
    @MartsGarage 6 месяцев назад

    Excellent Job, Matty, even with the minor booboo. Glad to see you doing a bit.

  • @wktodd
    @wktodd 6 месяцев назад +1

    Re first mill. The tightness at the top of the quill will probably be due to the adjustable depth stop fitting . They tend to distort the quill tube slightly if banged to a stop.

    • @endemiller5463
      @endemiller5463 6 месяцев назад

      I thought maybe had a ringclamp on it for years - for a light or a measuring tool??? Since been removed

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks mate, I have some investigating to do I think, Cheers

  • @kentuckytrapper780
    @kentuckytrapper780 6 месяцев назад

    Great video Matty, keep'um coming.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks mate, Appreciate you watching as always, Cheers

  • @joedowling5452
    @joedowling5452 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Matty, great addition to the shop! The issues you mentioned won’t take you long to sort out. Can’t wait to see you really put it through its paces.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, Im hoping to have it sorted out in the next week or so all going well, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

  • @jasonhull5712
    @jasonhull5712 6 месяцев назад

    Oh and the cap is LH threaded on mine too, so watch out for that when removing or adjusting the alignment pin in the quill.

  • @holl3020
    @holl3020 6 месяцев назад

    Ideally you should be using a slot drill not an end mill for the slots, plus if you have no choice slow the speed down a bit .ok mate

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Yes I've I had a good sharp slot drill, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @willemvantsant5105
    @willemvantsant5105 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Matty, just buy an ALSGS or Align power feed, the helical gears are the same and if you strip one, easily done, buy a new gear, cheap as chips.
    I had a similar mill, branded Smart.
    The heads are all the same, make sure it is well oiled and adjust the preloaded on the bearings..
    Mine had Turcite on chrome ways, last forever.
    Have to persevere with my mill drill for now, such is life.

    • @willemvantsant5105
      @willemvantsant5105 6 месяцев назад

      The Align and ALSGS power feeds are 230 Volt, no need for transformer.
      I stripped a gear in mine, not waiting for it to slow down and putting in reverse, otherwise they are bullet proof.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, If I can pick up a gear for the Servo power feed it would be nice to keep it all original, if the gear isn't available then i'll look at getting a new one, Appreciate you watching mate, Cheers

    • @joell439
      @joell439 6 месяцев назад

      👍😎👍

  • @jameslezak7882
    @jameslezak7882 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great addition to your shop! Great video! Thanks for your time and sharing! 👍😎✌️

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks very much mate, appreciate you watching, cheers

  • @TheBakafish
    @TheBakafish 6 месяцев назад

    I bet the quill spline is twisted at the sticky point. Open it up and it should become obvious what the issue is.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, I'll have it out soon so I'll check that out, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @randaljohnson1958
    @randaljohnson1958 6 месяцев назад

    Hi Marty I have a first mill the same pretty sure I have a manual will have a look tomorrow

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, Ive been lucky enough to get a parts manual for the mill, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

  • @adven999
    @adven999 6 месяцев назад

    Emailed you a couple of links.... Hope they help you out....

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks very much mate, Truly appreciated, Cheers

  • @MicksWorkshop
    @MicksWorkshop 6 месяцев назад

    My Dad recommended to me to drop the spindle all the way down and pull back and forth on it.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday Mick, I did that and I believe the issue is in the bearings mate, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @johnnym1320
    @johnnym1320 6 месяцев назад

    vertical mill is pretty sweet, only thing I don't like is the multi pulley for speed change, biggest thing I hate about my mill

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, It would of been nice to have a variable speed head but this was all I could afford, Im not a fan either but im going to have to get used to it, Thanks for watching, Cheers

    • @johnnym1320
      @johnnym1320 6 месяцев назад

      @@MattysWorkshop looks like a really nice machine otherwise

  • @captainraypaul4919
    @captainraypaul4919 6 месяцев назад

    Howdy Matty. I have that same milling machine, with the exception of my head is variable speed. I can check if I have the same gear. If so I'll see about building ya one. Great video!
    Cap'n

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday, Thanks very much mate, Greatly appreciated, Cheers

    • @captainraypaul4919
      @captainraypaul4919 6 месяцев назад

      I measured my drive gear, it is 90 mm. I will pull it off this weekend and count the teeth. My power fed is an Enco brand. Maybe it's the same as yours. If so, I'll set up to cut you a duplicate. Do you mind if I do a live stream building it and mention your channel?

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      @@captainraypaul4919 absolutely fantastic, this would be greatly appreciated, I certainly don’t mind you mentioning the channel at all, thanks very much mate

  • @rjung_ch
    @rjung_ch 6 месяцев назад +1

    Nice one Matty, hope you can find a manual and the 90 mm gear for your new mill.
    👍💪✌

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks mate, Im hoping I can find a gear to keep the mill original, Fingers crossed, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @AH-cx4ur
    @AH-cx4ur 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the tip on the TNGG inserts they work well.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, the TNGG inserts are brilliant, thanks for watching, cheers

  • @mike9500
    @mike9500 6 месяцев назад

    cutting fluid will save your cutters and stop a lot of the noise

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      I agree 100%, I need to make a cooling system at some stage, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @ShedBuiltStuff
    @ShedBuiltStuff 6 месяцев назад

    Finish? Maybe you could make a project of making one of those burnishing tools that use a bearing race and a ball bearing.
    I made a rough one and it works brilliantly to produce a mirror finish.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, Theres already something in the works for a burnishing tool mate, Watch this space as they say, thanks for watching, Cheers

    • @ShedBuiltStuff
      @ShedBuiltStuff 6 месяцев назад

      @@MattysWorkshop- excellent. Look forward to it. I thought this “burnishing” thing was a myth till I tried it.

  • @pst3615
    @pst3615 6 месяцев назад

    It's got personality 😉, it's a MW special 😀

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Certainly has mate, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @swanvalleymachineshop
    @swanvalleymachineshop 6 месяцев назад

    Good one Matty . 👍

  • @AH-cx4ur
    @AH-cx4ur 6 месяцев назад

    Hi what size VFD do you need ?
    I have a small SEW euro drive if it suits you can have it.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, The Cincinnati has a 3hp motor, Cheers mate

    • @AH-cx4ur
      @AH-cx4ur 6 месяцев назад

      I will check when I get back home.

    • @AH-cx4ur
      @AH-cx4ur 6 месяцев назад

      I have sent you a email

  • @markramsell454
    @markramsell454 6 месяцев назад

    Keith also has manuals on his regular website.

  • @wirenut003
    @wirenut003 6 месяцев назад

    He has lots of parts and manuals or can get them for you.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Who has the manuals and parts mate?

  • @timbyrd5057
    @timbyrd5057 6 месяцев назад

    H&W machine might be able to help with that gear.

  • @mike9500
    @mike9500 6 месяцев назад

    haha he said shaft! ;)

  • @christophercullen1236
    @christophercullen1236 6 месяцев назад +1

    Has Keith Rucker got on it on this vast file of machine manuals !
    Kit from up north

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Grau Kit, I had a quick look and I couldn't a manual on the First, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

    • @christophercullen1236
      @christophercullen1236 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@MattysWorkshopMatty can you send all the details on the mill it will give me a project for tomorrow.
      Old apprentice

  • @timmienorrie
    @timmienorrie 6 месяцев назад

    Hi Matty. I like your new machine. You're going to have fun with that. I like the drive dogs recessed like that. Happy mistake. 👍

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks very much mate, I really don't mind the look of the drive dogs recessed as well, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @johnspathonis1078
    @johnspathonis1078 6 месяцев назад

    Hi Matty. Have you tried Modern Tools in Victoria? Cheers

  • @TedRoza
    @TedRoza 6 месяцев назад

    G'day Matty. The NT30 spindle worked out well, just wondering why you didn't cut the thread before you turned the taper, the tailstock taper would have lined the threaded section ok

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday Ted, The thread got done after the taper simply because thats the way it all ended up happening, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @joewhitney4097
    @joewhitney4097 6 месяцев назад

    Great video Matty. Great arbor build. Good luck on the mill parts assembly and replacements including the gear replacement.
    Thanks for sharing.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks very much mate, truly appreciate you watching and commenting, cheers

  • @willembuys5827
    @willembuys5827 6 месяцев назад

    Hi Matty love the video. On your mill most of these are clones of the bridgeport. A couple of years back I refurbished my own called a supermax. I used the bridgeport manual and a company called H &W machine repair and rebuild. They have a RUclips channel as well with a lot of videos on mainly bridgeport. It helped a lot to figure how the machine fits together. Mine also has the NT 30 taper.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, quite a few have mentioned H&W, I’ve checked out there channel and it’s very helpful, appreciate you watching mate, cheers

  • @jasonhull5712
    @jasonhull5712 6 месяцев назад

    Hey Matty, my Bridgeport quill has that same tight spot. It started after a cheap Chinese-em arbor got stuck in quill, I had to adjust the guide pin in the spindle and once I got it sorted out and adjusted properly the tight spot went away. I guess what I’m saying is to check the alignment pin in the spindle, or even remove it and test the quill operation, if it clears up the tight spot then there is your problem.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, Ill have a good look at the spindle mate, Appreciate you watching mate, Cheers

  • @StuartsShed
    @StuartsShed 6 месяцев назад

    Beautiful work on the arbor - but wow what a find in that knee mill. Very nice indeed - that's superb.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday, Thanks very much, I'm pretty happy with the mill and for the age it's in pretty good condition, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @bostedtap8399
    @bostedtap8399 6 месяцев назад

    Great Job Matty, happy new Turret Mill, not much TLC required.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks mate, Overall its in pretty good condition for its age, Thanks for watching, Cheers

  • @davidgraham4112
    @davidgraham4112 6 месяцев назад

    Nice mill! I am jealous! Lol!

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks mate, appreciate you watching, cheers

  • @terrycannon570
    @terrycannon570 6 месяцев назад

    Matty I really like the adjustable block you have under the arbor and on top of the 1-2-3 block. I would love to have a drawing or see the video of you making it.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday, I do have drawings of this, send me an email and I send you a copy, cheers

  • @DavoShed
    @DavoShed 6 месяцев назад +6

    Hi Matty,
    Great video.
    I herd you at the beginning refer to ISO30 and NT30 as if they are interchangeable.
    I too believed they were similar enough and bought an ISO arbour for my face mill when my mill is actually a NT30.
    The difference is in the draw bar thread even though the draw bar thread on both is both 12mm.
    Once you remove the ball connection thing the ISO taper is too short. I ended up making an extension for the draw bar but then a 12mm internal thread was edge to edge with a 12mm external thread.
    That didn’t end well 🤠
    I made a second longer extension and then a 20mm spacer on top of the draw bar and it all worked. So you can use an ISO taper tool in a NT taper machine but you need to make some adapters. Might be good to mention this if a similar topic comes up again in another of your videos.
    Love your work
    Dave.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +2

      Gday Dave, thanks very much for the information, This mill come with the 20mm spacer for the drawbar, Thanks for watching mate, Cheers

    • @D40..
      @D40.. 6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday Davo shed for future reference a piece of m12 threaded bar from bunnings works fine for that as well I bought a cheap er32 collet chuck with an iso30 taper from ebay and had a similar issue

    • @dennisleadbetter7721
      @dennisleadbetter7721 6 месяцев назад +1

      You need a longer drawbar fr the ISO compared to the NT, beccause the ISO doesn't have the straight end piece at the top, but the taper and general dimensions are identical. The ISO is used more in CNC equipment or where you have auto locking, and they have a screw in pin that the auto locking mechanism locks onto.

    • @dennisleadbetter7721
      @dennisleadbetter7721 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@D40..While the thread will fit, the threaded rod may not be of the same stress grade as the bolt. Most bolts and similar sold in major hardware stores are usually no more than grade 4.6, where drawbars are higher strength steels like 8.8 or higher. You can get threaded rod in higher grades too, but you need to go to a bolt and fastener type outlet. If you have the equipment, it is not hard to make a suitable bolt with some higher quality rod, and use the lathe to thread the end as required, and you avoid all those sharp edges that scratch around inside the spindle.

  • @yvesdesrosiers2396
    @yvesdesrosiers2396 6 месяцев назад

    Congrats mate on the new mill. Very happy for you and now you have more capabilities for your shop. Can't wait to see what you will build next. Be safe. Cheers

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday Yves, thanks very much mate, Its going to be nice to have a quill again and not have to always be winding the knee up and down, Appreciate you watching mate, Cheers

  • @paulrayner4514
    @paulrayner4514 6 месяцев назад

    Nice addition Matty. Wish I could get one, I've not enough ceiling height in my workshop

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks mate, thats a bugger not having enough ceiling height, Appreciate you watching, Cheers

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @907jl
    @907jl 6 месяцев назад

    congrats on the new knee mill Matty! Email is on the way, I may have some helpful info on your spindle and power feed.

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Gday, Thanks very much mate, Much appreciated, Cheers

  • @eyuptony
    @eyuptony 6 месяцев назад

    Nice work Matty, the finished arbor looks great. Cheers Tony

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks very much Tony, Appreciate you watching as always mate, Cheers

  • @henrikhv5084
    @henrikhv5084 6 месяцев назад

    nice job, and Congratulations on the new mill, cheers from Denmark

  • @MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc
    @MatthewTinker-au-pont-blanc 6 месяцев назад

    I hope those bearings aren't too pricey! Nice buy!! All the best, Matthew

    • @MattysWorkshop
      @MattysWorkshop  6 месяцев назад

      Gday, Im hoping they only need a little adjustment, fingers crossed anyway mate, Thanks for watching, cheers