AWFUL! The Color Purple LIED On Black America By Doing This...
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- AWFUL! The Color Purple Lied On Black America By Doing THIS...
🎬 Dive into the controversial remake of the iconic movie "The Color Purple," originally adapted from the groundbreaking novel by feminist author Alice Walker. In this video, we unravel the layers of this timeless story and discuss its recent 2023 remake, exploring the complex issues it raises in the context of the challenges faced by Black America today.
📚 Alice Walker's masterpiece, "The Color Purple," has been a beacon of cultural significance since its release, addressing themes of racism, sexism, and the resilience of the human spirit. The 2023 remake attempted to breathe new life into this classic tale, but many argue that it missed the mark, particularly considering the current state of Black America and the unique challenges the community faces.
🤔 Join us as we break down the elements that made the original adaptation such a cultural touchstone and then delve into the reasons behind the disappointment surrounding the recent remake. From the portrayal of characters to the adaptation of sensitive issues, we'll examine how the remake navigated the delicate balance of honoring the source material while addressing the complexities of modern societal challenges.
👥 Share your thoughts in the comments section below! Do you agree with the criticism surrounding the 2023 remake, or do you believe it brought a fresh perspective to the narrative? Let's engage in a respectful dialogue about the intersection of art, culture, and the issues faced by Black America today.
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It makes my heart smile when I see black Americans waking up.
Africans in America 😉
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@@4411825No. “African” American is a misnomer.
First part of waking up is not being black it's not our identity
If I never see another enslaved black person or hyper-sexual black woman portrayed in movies, music or on the internet I won’t miss it and will not ask what happened. No one asked for this movie the first time and we definitely don’t want it now. Great vid!
😂 Riiiiiight.... Empress... we've been bombarded with this 🐂💩,
since the eighty's,
I thought art... was to escape the harshness of Reality???
Good point. Some years ago, Snoop Dogg commented that he's tired of only seeing us portrayed as weak slaves.
Time to make our own platforms like Issa Rae did with stories that represent us better
Rae aint from the cloth@@AFocusedLiving
I'll never support anything Oprah does she's compromised to do white supremacy bidding just like the black politicians that are on code with the do nothing Demo-rats
You described what also happened in the movie "Harriet," in which the white slave owner was actually presented as a sympathetic character, even a love interest, to Harriet Tubman, while they absolutely _invented_ a vile, utterly abominable black man as the primary villain...when Harriet Tubman's memoirs never mentioned any such character.
You might want to check out the award-winning 1972 movie Sounder, a more realistic story of the black family meeting the trials of early 20th century America. I think that movie did what you're asking for.
Harriet was a HORRIBLE movie. Even artistically it fell flat imo
i read that book and watched the movie when I was in 4th grade
I'm glad i boycotted that garbage.
Why can't black Americans make their own historical movies 🎥?? How long have you'll been there? Black Americans throw away billions every year.
I agree with much is being said about the movie but let's make sure that we're not "ahistorical" with the facts on the narrative. The time period wasn't Reconstruction or Reconstruction Jim Crow. Those were two very different time periods. Reconstruction led to Jim Crow. If the US had gotten Reconstruction right, we wouldn't be facing the issues that we face as a people.
This movie was not saying every black man is a bad man. It showed us what generations of abuse have done. Mister's father was a horrible man and Mister wanted his approval and turned into a version of him. Mister's son want's his dad's approval and starts to turn out like him - until he decided to make some changes. This is male generational trauma. They were brought up to be this way and Ceelie was brought up to be meek and not stand up for herself all of the charater's behaviors come for generational trauma. it effects all of us
I don't think she wants to touch on that
😂😂😂 about made up stories and characters what?
Black people have this thing about protecting the black image. So some of us shy away from wanting to see any depictions of black people in a negative light. As a black man, I have to say, black men like the ones depicted in The Color Purple existed then and still exist now. Ignoring that won't make it not exist. I don't take it as a reflection of me because it's not. I can empathize with what the female characters went through on a human level. I don't think I agree with Mr. Baldwin on this. Of course, someone displaying those types of behaviors would have a background. That's an entirely different story though. Serial killers and child predators also have a background. I don't think anyone was born that messed up but how often do people consider what a serial killer or a child predator went through that lead them to be how they are? I don't think Alice Walker's intentions was to write a book just to make black men look bad even though I will be the first to say, all the men in the movie were foul. I don't think The Antwone Fisher story set out to make black women look bad even though they had some vile black female characters. This notion that black people should only be shown in a positive light needs to stop because it's not real. Are we that sensitive? Ike Turner wasn't real?
I watched a documentary the other day. A lady was describing an incident that happened to her. To get to the point, she was taken advantage of by a bunch of young men when she was a teenager. We have no idea how many women this has happened to. In Asata Shakur's autobiography, she describes a similar incident that almost happened to her where she had to fight off a bunch of boys who tried to take advantage of her. Oprah talks about her brothers taking advantage of her. I knew girls in the neighborhood where I grew up who went through similar things.
Trust me. I'm not Mr. Panderer. I'm not a male feminist. I just try to be fair, honest and objective. How many people saying The Color Purple was propaganda to destroy the black man's image has ever been abused or taken advantage of? I doubt the ones who have are saying that.
I think u missed the point. She acknowledged that things happened. She's saying that thou things happened, we never oppressed bw. There was mistreatment, heck there was mistreatment on both sides, however we never oppressed them. Much respect to u thou big bro. Like the fact u kept it real and was trying to b fair. May Elohim bless u and keep u.
I am Senegalese but grew up in Italy. Me and my family really liked watching the Colour purple, the actors (Whoopi Goldberg, Danny Glover etc) they all did they best. The story also was and still is very compelling.
Reading these comments kinda makes me questions why I even liked this movie, but I do like it a lot, I watched the OG Colour purple at least one a year, and I still am very touched by the story, as I too have sisters and we were separated.
I will definitely read the novel in the future in order to get a better understanding of the characters.
As for those who hated the movies/the book because you think is paints a negative image of Black men, well I do not know what to tell you, there are negative representation of every ethnicity. I suggest that you all start also criticize the rappers, the musicians who have a wider audience.
I criticize that industry too and the message it promotes. The story itself was quite compelling but the motive IMO was impure and even if you understand the history of teh writer it gives further understanding into the overall intention of the play. I don't deny drama exists, however this was definitely fiction and failed to paint an accurate portrayal of all that was hindering that Black family at that time. Also no critical lense was put on the women, it seemed a bit bias IMO. And this is coming from the perspective of a woman!
I agree
@@ChezCharde"no critical lense was put on the women". Sophia was loud, boisterous, thought too highly of herself and pregnant out of wedlock and shamed for it openly. Celie was beat for not being attractive. Celie was basically sold to Mister because she was sexually used up by her step father and deemed spoiled and was told she was ugly more than once? Sug was talented and ambitious but she was a sinful, prideful, whore according to her preacher daddy. But there was no critical lense put on the women? OK
I totally agree and appreciate your perspective. Everyone's entitled to their opinions but I think a lot of black people are overly concerned with protecting the image of black people. I'm like you. I thought it was a well acted and compelling movie and I love stuff like that. I don't want just cookie cutter movies that only paint black people in a positive light because that's not real. I haven't seen the new one but mainly because I'm not into musicals. I personally think that's why the movie flopped. To be fair, this new movie could've completely been agenda driven. A lot of movies these days are. I reserve judgement.
Both movies was trash not your history so you don't care
Alice Walker was a zaddy chaser so...
So was Oprah, and with Spielberg producing it was a slam dunk
And she was gay
@@dshort8686 I call her Okra lol
@@jevondismuke5252that's disrespectful to that veggie!
Alice Walker was bisexual.. and that is represented in the Novel.. but not the original film. And Alice walker was furious with Spielberg and the Screen writer for what they did to her black male characters and how they skipped the white oppression that created the context of the story. This 2023 version is worse because they make it an all black town.. which completely removes the fact that Celie and Nettie's father and uncles were murdered by the KKK for being too successful.. and her mother went insane.. and that insanity was the opening that their savage step father walked through and into control of their father's land and property. That oppression was central to the context of the abuse.
Back in the 1980s my mother raved about the movie,Tthe Color Purple and she encouraged me to see it. Well I did and I was deeply offended because it portrayed every single black man in a terribly negative light. I pondered why my mother delighted in that film and why she encouraged me to see it. Needless to say it was the beginning of the end of our relationship because it gave me deep insight into why she was such a horrible mother to me.
At first I didn't internalize it. I just looked at the performances, and they were outstanding. That's what makes it even more dangerous.
Wow that’s sad to hear!
You have a common society that is larger than you may realize.
Black women's promiscuous behavior is destroying the nation, with their FOOD STAMP bumming, and HOUSING bumming with only REWARDS FOR THEIR BAD BEHAVIOR.
I had a BBW throw a hammer at me outside Walmart in Sarasota.
She's lucky to be alive. Her trial is in April.
As an African, aged 13 (back in 2007) my best friend and I were obsessed with African American movies. First put off with the 2 hours plus, we decided to watch the Oprah colour purple. Well, as soon as that Lesbian scene came on, we switched it off! Brought up in a strict, Christian home, even we knew at that age, the agenda of the movie! It wasn’t to uplift anyone but the depressed BW and make her turn away from the BM.. in every way.
Has anyone asked the question why did those men choose to play those roles? For me, the movie holds some truth but my grandmother was a sharecropper that’s was beaten in by her husband. I think in these conversations multiple things can be true.
The question is, why is a black billionaire (Harpo) willing to LOSE MONEY to promote this movie for a second time?
Because with all her billionaire status,she's not in control.
Same way she did Mj wrong
Because these movies are government propaganda... they don't lose money they just simply put it out and make money
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She's part of the group, for the other team, only skin folk not kin folk
So, should Black woman that were traumatized never make films. In the present day there are black men who degrade black women and are abusive . Just like their has always been men throughour history that will abuse and degrade women. This movie is fiction. And apparantly many of you have no idea how to just sit and watch a movie without assuming that it's tryong to paint ALL black people with the same brush.
It's also ironic how people continue to use that clip of James Baldwin, a gay black man whose life partner was a white man, using disparaging remakes to discribe a movie about situtions he knew nothing about.
When you read biographies of men like Dr. Ben Carson and Emmit Til you find out that there were black men who beat and degraded their black women because of the oppression they faced.
As a young black girl in the 80s I loved this movie because I finally got to see beautiful black women on film.
I wish I could say more. But, every black movie doesn't have to be about the white man. And the original movie definitely showed that the white folks were waaay worse than Mista.
Also, I realize that alot of you never noticed that this man was the way he was because of how his father was constantly disappointed in him. And Mista did make amends for his horrific behavior, proving that people can change. And that we can come together and forgive one another. But, most of you that complain about this movie ALWAYS miss that.
The women in this movie were not perfect either. And they were very complicated. Sug loved Mista because she had no idea he treated Ciley the way he did. And black men treated Ciley like trash, the way many modern black men treat dark skinned women today. So, of course she would only love women.
Black people are too hard on each other. Sometimes we are harder on each other than white folks. We are complicated people. And that's ok.
Denzel won an oscar for playing a trashy black man. None of you ever raise hell about that.
The film "The Color Purple" is an amazing movie. And there are plenty of movies that dipicte black men in a positive light. Everyone needs to calm down and just enjoy a good story every once in awhile.
You forget how women were treated black then. This story is someone's story
You forget how men were treated "black" then. Lynched for protecting & providing for their own families and communites. THAT story was way more common back then, than this BS fiction.
Not the entire group, just some!!!!!
@@superafrikanmedialabs8237 more than some bc women were second class
That BS depiction from the very beginning that blackmen were portraying slave masters and selling off black babies is not ANY of our history. Hollywood knows a whole lot better than me what they are doing, and intends to keep theaters full of indoctrinated negroes actually believing the black family in the horse and buggy age was broken and divided. We will never learn 🥲
@@quincycuthbert5408 I think you are conflation the story of white women. ALL Black people were considered not second but third class citizens.
I'm old enough to remember the first movie came out. My mother who is from south GA and was against the movie back then. She didn't go see the stage play and hated the movie.My father a “pro black” Garveyite refused to watch it. I remember people boycotting the premier and the NAACP calling for the boycott and came out against the movie. It was a lot of backlash from the black community when this movie came out. The Color purple is flat out misandrist cannon and has been used to socially denigrate and disrespect black men while making black women perpetual victims of black men..and it has worked. This movie should have never gotten a remake and like you said its total revisionist history. Those stories in the color purple were extremes and not the norms of ADOS family life in the south.
It’s an attempt at reindoctrination in my opinion
@@ChezCharde yeah I can see that, however it's on us to do our homework. My family is from Georgia and I can tell you those stories in the color purple are so disrespectful to every man from the Jim Crow era in my family. The real issue I have is how easy it is for them to make a movie like this as if its ok and get mad when people call them out. I'm raising a son in the south and I refuse to let this nonsense continue.
@@NonetomuchI'm from GA, too.
@@cpthetrucker9067 my family is from between Americus and surrounding areas, Brunswick, Savanah, Macon and I myself am from Atlanta.
@@Nonetomuch gotcha. I'm from LaGrange.
The move is NOT a biography and was a made up story. People need to get there facts straight and thats part of the problem.
Domestic violence has always been an issue then and now. How they tell the story and perspectives in how to make it more contextual, can totally be improved.
It's gonna have to be a no contact, no conflict type of situation with Black Women as far as I'm concerned. I want nothing from them. They shouldn't expect anything from me. No condemnation or praise. Nothing at all.
a successful product of the antiblack marketing campaign.
@@MrMakingcakea successful product of the modern day plantation mindset. Your not anti black for wanting better for yourself.
So are you a homosexual or a divestor because I don’t understand your logic 🤷🏾♂️
Funny...he didn't disrespect black women...but he must be gay huh...
@@4411825it’s not that hard to understand, maybe you’re a bit touched in the brain
Alice Walker ended up marrying a white man and then dated Tracy Chapman for several years after…Not surprised at the narrative against black men.
And pro- les Bian ❤️ let's not forget that!
Her own daughter had written an article about how cold of a mother Alice was. She’s a trash self hating person.
@@apriljohnson7447 She dated Tracy Chapman so not surprised that the book was literally a love story between two women
All the radical black feminists were in relationships with white women
Wow...I had no idea!😮😮😮
I talked to my mom back when the first one came out. She said it was normal that Some Black men were! So what’s the problem
I've saw the older movie, and I saw the play. I'm over it. This movie was targeting black men.
You didn't pick that up after the 1st film?
@@kengi5819 I sure picked that up after the first film.
I'm so glad that my people are waking up.
@@kengi5819 I was a kid then
This is why they gotta stop remaking/rehashing these gender war/male bashing ass movies. Black people were more concerned about staying the fuck alive from the TRUE oppressors than some men bad, female good woke ass b.s.
I've never liked Oprah Winfrey,
I've never liked her crony either,
That tall woman dressing Tyler Perry.
I can't stand the buffoonery of Kevin Hart.
Also most black movies piss me off.
What happened to Good movies..
Thomasina and Bushrod
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomasine_%26_Bushrod
Agree even on Good story as well everything becomes tarnished
Even if The Color Purple was written by a man-hating feminist, the 1985 movie version is so beautiful it makes me cry. It's about an extended family of fkd up people all getting their shit together by the end of the movie. It's not a reflection of all black people any more than The Godfather is a reflection of all Italians.
I think us as a people overthink stuff too much it's just a movie and the only oppressive black men in the movie was Mister and Ceely's step dad not every black male character if y'all gonna criticize the color purple y'all need to criticize every Tyler Perry Movie smh
SYSBM AND PASSPORT BROS!
Flip side of the same dysfunctional reactionary coin 🪙
@@4411825No, the flip side would be staying here and engaging in destructive rhetoric about black women. Black men have done enough, including being the men most likely to be stepdaddies.
YEAH , STILL IN BED WITH THE OPPRESOR, AND THESE TRAITORS GIVE BIRTH TO BM? THAT'S PSYCHOTIC ✔️
I want to congratulate you for taking on this subject, your analysis is spot on. The First Color Purple movie was so bad that the NAACP basically banned the movie and was very critical of it , so why on Earth would Oprah revisit this White Supremacists propaganda movie?
Why would she revisit it?
To make sure the next generation of black women continue to have a hatred for the black man.
To make sure the gender wars keep going. So they can divide and conquer.
Oprah is a vile snake.
Because... she's Oprah
Because her handlers tell her to do so!. Very few women in the world hate black men more than Oprah!.💯🎯
Because Oprah, in her own ways, carries water for white supemacy.
Thank You sis for speaking these facts. Im so tired of these narratives of separation and Im so tired of wypipo playing us off each other. I appreciate you for pointing out the foolery
Not shocked this is a Oprah movie.
"daughters of the trade" debunks the whole movie.
This is wild
A work of fiction does not need to be “debunked”
There’s nothing to debunk
It’s not real
It debunks itself
True
It Flopped,,,oh well
I assumed it was going to win some awards because its spreads a message...
@@ChezChardeyou might be right. Virtue Signaling Films have been the norms of the past 5 years. If this wins an Award, Oprah and Hollywood win.
It never crosses their minds that abusive black women could be both making and using this movie as both a method of abuse and as a covert "justification" for how they treat black men.
We already know that reputation destruction is one of the many tools abusive women like to use.
Bingo 👈
Anything to justify the BW's own phuckery.
I tell you what though:
I can't wait til that FREAKNIK documentary comes out, because it will tie it all together concerning the BWs reputation 👈
This
Who thought this movie deserved a remake? 1st one was bs and would never watch anything associated with okra wigfree or mandea
Okra is always running free in her wig
Cuz it's always Germaine fault
lol
They gonna say something like "what are you afraid of the truth???" But yet everyone ripped and raved about black love from back in the day? But u thought black men were oppressors... which is it? Black love or oppression? We have strayed so far from critical thinking that generalization has become the short cut for everything and I'm over it atp. I'm done watching movies and TV shows
That's what I've been thinking. Like seriously, families were strong be4 the system came in.
Critical thinking allows me to discern that there are good black men and bad ones whether I'm watching a movie, reading a book or living daily life.
@@areyourhandsbroke we're there some who stepped out, sure but it was still quite strong. It had to b. Like seriously, why do u think the government but laws in place to break it up.
Honestly im confused on why people are focused on this movie when pretty much majority of media shows the negative side...drug dealers, thugs etc. Like no one talked about Power, snowfall, etc. And those shows had very high ratings. What is the difference? All are fictional shows/movies. No they aren't norms but there r some people who have been in those situations. 50 cent is being sued because some1 is saying Power was made about him. Abuse did happen. My grandmother born in umpteen hundreds was a victim if it. Is it wrong to make movies about these things? And y don't we call out all of the other shows/movies showing bm in a bad light?
Of course abuse happened, but someone’s grandmother 100 years ago, who is NEVER here to tell her own story, is always the alleged victim.
@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 actually my grandma lived a long time. She died in the early 2000s! She lived many years to be able to tell her story but she really didn't have to because she had 13 children some of who suffered through it. But this is besides the point of what I'm seeking clarification on...
Power snowfall that stripper show absolute trash
I refuse to watch movies that glorify drug dealers! The 80’s was devastating to our communities!
This!
Damn sometimes it amazes me when a black woman these days understand what is going on. True or false the Willy Lynch paper hit too far to the truth. It’s written. Keep the black male down and the black woman will have no choice but to submit. You see it today. She will give you attitude and jump for a boss at work💯
There was Absolutely No reason to Remake a Movie that Falsely accused Black men of being Monsters and Black Women believed this for Decades!!!
And that’s why they will be all alone while I’m sitting in my house with my husband and my son 😂
😂🤣😂🤣 It accused the man in the movie of being a monster and it was a scenario that happens in real life what don't you understand. Watch it again with adult eyes this time
I've never read the book, but from what I've been told by people who have; the book provides way more context as to why Mister was the way he was, and why Ceile tolerated so much for so long. Films based on books usually cut out a certain amount of context to save screen time while simultaneously trying to preserve the writers creative license. Alice Walker has stated for years that Cielie was a composite character loosley based on her grandmother's life and several other women she knew as a young girl.
I've noticed over the years that the way black men are portrayed in black theatrical films only seems to be a cause for concern when the story is being told from the perspective of a black *WOMAN* . Menace II Society, Baby Boy, South Central, and Hustle & Flow, just to name a few, were horrible portrayals of Black American men.
Yet, movies like TCP, For Colored Girls, and Waiting to Exhale, which were tame in comparison to the depictions in the films I named earlier, are public enemy number one in how they portray bm because these stories were narrated from the vantage point of a bw. I just wish the black community would say they don't like when bw tell their side of the story as it pertains to the Black American experience and their relationships with bm.
You nailed it! They only hate this movie because it’s a woman centered depiction of an abusive black man. If the movie was told from
Mister’s perspective, he would be their hero.
The book alludes to the life experience that made Mister the man that he is. I think the movie gives a glimpse of a man desperately searching for love and some sort of control over his "world", cause Lord knows he had little to no control over the world outside his home.
Once I found out it was being made, I said I wasn’t gonna watch it, for 1, Oprah produced it, 2, it’s a musical, but after it came out in theaters, what I heard about it, I said, you gotta hate black men to wanna watch it, if that makes sense. Oprah villainize black men when she make documentaries, hell, she called Dave Chappell crazy to his face, while interviewing him. Why would anybody wanna work with her
I'm still mad about Oprah doing all those interviews with Michael Jackson when he was alive. But waited until he died to do a documentary for his allegations.
I read the book and saw both films. Imo, the first film was a classic. That said, Oprah was raped by a male family member and many women are. I don't get the "it villainizes" Black men angle as most people recognize that it is a fictional movie and does not pretend to be a historical piece. That said, most of today's music put out by black men has at least 10 references to woman as whores. Imo, women need to be more concerned with that as it literally floods the airwaves.
Thank you. I didn’t think there was a point in going to see this movie. You’ve confirmed my assessment. Good day. ✌🏿
I'm a boomer, and I've been waiting for youngsters to wake up.
Thank you !
Why do we do this: take the portrayal of ONE black man and apply that to EVERY black man in America? UGH!
Because people already do it to us. It’s unfortunate but it’s true
They really wanted us to believe Granddad was a drunk pervert with a side family and Granny was his slave😂
Koodos to those who clearly see this movie for what it is......an affront/abomination. Perception is Reality for false narrative and depiction!
The Color Purple is excellent. It shows the growth of men and women to the point where they could be proud of themselves.❤
The BW BIBLE
I never care to see the Color Purple again in life and definitely didnt care for a remake!
I NEVER LIKED THIS MOVIE and frankly i never understood why so many black people liked it i was a kid when the O.G movie came out and it was HBO and my mom loved it and so many black women love it when i watched it as an adult i saw so many things that made me say WTF i don't understand stand the hype
Your a breath of fresh air. Thank you
The Color Purple is not a documentary. It is a movie based on a fictional book - a made up story. It is not for everyone but one "lesson" if you will is resilience. Celie did not have a perfect life but she persevered. Also every "black" movie doesn't have to be rainbows and sunshine.
I'm not watching that BS.
I don't understand how any of us actually like this movie
The Color Purple is Alice Walkers' perspective. That's it.
The book and movie actually don't make that generalization about black men. Not every black man in the book is like Mister.
I had 1 major problem with this film.....It went from Mr. being evil in 1985 and ripping Celie & Nettie apart to literally being the devil by 2023 and attempting to grape his 13 year old sister-in-law in her sleep & then shooting at her after throwing her out at night in the midst of a rain storm.
The broadway play (and this adaptation of it to a movie in 2023) are closer to the book. What you described, is what happened in the book.
Wow! I never care to see the color purple again and I definitely didn't want to see a remake.
Are you acting like this didnt go down? I have uncles to this day my mom won’t let me be around and I am 40
@@shebri00
*So you're from a sh!thole family, got it.* It's not MOST of Black-America's story.
@@shebri00 No, that would be stupid right?? Men understand the small percentage of everything. But while we're here, are these your mother's brothers? What kind of men are your uncles?
Your editing and framing of your videos is awesome. You've come a long way over your time on youtube.
Thank you so much ❤️
The movie was based on a true story and it’s about the writers family. It happened …
I always wondered where the source material came from. I find it hard to believe that someone just imagined it out of thin air. It's too detailed.
She seems to be a highly educated young lady but my observation was also that she evidently hasn't read the book by Alice Walker if I am not mistaken. Then you have a better understanding of if not being a fictionalized story.
Alice Walker is a Feminist. What did you expect? At least Steven Spielberg Disneyfied the original film in spite of it's dark subject matter. That's why some critics heavily criticized the 1985 film. It wasn't gritty enough, and it deviated from Alice Walker's fictional novel. That's why this movie was remade. AND NOBODY ASKED FOR A REMAKE OF THE COLOR PURPLE!!
Everyone complains about Mister being abusive. No one cares that Mister's son Harpo was a good man with an entrepreneurial spirit married to an abusive or at least bossy woman (Sophia). It's like he overcorrected trying to not be like his father.
Why was Harpo's wife bossy? She beat Harpo when he attacked her! She had to defend herself against her brothers, uncles, and older men!
Thank you Sister! Small channel, big content? Stay Black and Beautiful.
Agree 100% with your take on the movie. I was 18 when the original came out, and I knew it was a chop job even then. The older women in my family hated it. The younger ones loved it.
If that was your take-a-way, you need to rewatch the movie.
That’s a movie I will never go see, even if it’s an adaptation from a broadway musical.
One of my biggest problems with this movie and 98% of all "black" movies is that almost without exception every single character is morally corrupted in some way. Interesting point is that these types of Woman from this movie rarely existed in real life, but now you look around and you see these types of BW everywhere. Not art imitating life, but real life hase taken on the persona of the "art". Just like the Feminist movement our Woman have been suckered and used again.
Facts. Facts facts❤
What do you think is a proper way to present issues within the Black family during Reconstruction?
Movie "Eve's Bayou" (later era however) is a model for that subject.
This film wasn’t even set during Reconstruction.
I think her premise is okay, but some of the facts make me wonder if she saw the films or read the book.
To me The color purple movie is another modern day birth of a nation movie that was made in 1916. Only difference no blackface in color purple just blackfakes.
Seriously, sister. Are you going to take a fiction book and call it history? Omg!
Great video queen. I do agree with you on all points mentioned. 💪🏾🙏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Thank you for speaking up for us when we needed it.
How many people actually looked into the research of that time period? My grandmother was born in 1917 (the same year the movie starts in) & had HORRIBLE stories. BM are not exempt from abuse and oppression of BW. How is this movie worse than the Rap music, the Tv shows that display BM as criminals & drug dealers? This is a wild take. My grandmother spoke about how life was in the South. BM have been protectors AND abusers. Both are real occurrences.
The Color Purple has caused a negative mental sydrom amongst the modern Black female. After seeing the original film I had no desire to see the new film. As damaged as our culture is in this country this was the last thing we needed.
I saw it and loved it, probably my favourite movie.......although it made my mother cry because both she AND my sister could relate to what celie went through as a child with a GROWN MAN. Oh I forget to mention my dad was no walk in the park either, just saying.
It sounds like you should write another story that is about what your want to see in THE COLOR PURPLE movie. There is room for a million stories about very topic.
Feel free to write your own novel.
Sad thing is that humans always forget and therefore can easily be mind controlled.
Alice Walker wrote a novel. . .”fiction” . .one story about one woman’s story. . .🤔
Im just glad its doing so badly at the box office. Between this and those awful new marvel movies, Hollywood will be forced to either do something different or collapse.
Well Oprah did have a hand in making it soooooo
That’s why the movie is flopping nobody wanted to see this mess.
It trips me out because watching this movie as a child, you get the impression that all black men are evil and abusive. So how many young black men and women grew up hating black men because of this movie.
Kevin Samuels warned everyone about this movie (old and current).
It does not represent the black culture, especially black men, well at all.
The book was written by a Black woman who did not live at the time of the story. I wonder where she got her info from?
Thank you! ❤
The Color Purple film is not ahistorical it’s false!
It was produced by OPRAH that saids EVERYTHING you need to know
I don't think it is logical to say a fictional work such as the novel or movies is a lie. The word "fiction" in itself means something is not reality. I have only watched the 80's movie version and took it as entertainment. When watching you experience the things that make one sad, happy, amused as well as the acting performances. I did not feel indicted as a man. The brutality and actions of Mister are a bit over the top and over dramatized I admit but that is the nature of feature films and storytelling in general. One can't demand that the story be told how we think it should. If it is not your type of story or entertainment don't see the movie. It is the story of one unique (fictional) scenario. Black families existed at that time, of course, and it is possible that such unfortunate dynamics could have happened with this one singular family. Rather tasteful to our sensibilities or not. There are many villainous male Black characters out there in movies and tv so why put so much emphasis on this one?
Fiction = made up story....don't dig too deep into something that never happened
Because the few recognize it as fiction. Many think it is an accurate accounting of the time in which it was based. There in lies here issue and that is exactly what she expressed.
@@Cosmiccoffeecup Naw, I don't think most people think it is a depiction of reality. Shame if they do. It's a movie musical based on a novel. What you are saying does not make sense.
@@danielcromwell158 ok. We live in different spheres and talk to different people. That is fine. Enjoy your life.
Thanks for including the James Baldwin introduction commentary and examples of Black men and Black women relying on each other for survival. Thanks for giving attention to White systemic oppression. This film removes the cultural and historical context of the Black family. Bravo for an excellent review!❤🖤💚
This filth will never get played in my house. I saw the original more times than I should have growing up in the 80s as a young boy. I come from very big southern families and none of the men and women in my family were like this. Even then the movie reeked of propaganda. I understand that it may resonate with a few but the way the movie was pushed on our community as the gospel truth representation of the black family was criminal and insidious.
DAM !!! It’s a novel people. Alice, you ROCK. You got people going crazy. What a BRAIN. 🤗🤗🤗🥰🥰🥰. What a book.
I just finished reading the book and I would just like to add that the book doesn‘t paint black man as monsters. In fact at the end of the book the main character is friends with her ex husband who abused her. And it is vey clear that they both were unhappy and both of them became happier people after they decided to put some space between each other and find themselves apart from what the world around them told them women and men should be and behave like.
The book shows more than once that black men have a reason for doing what they are doing without excusing their abusive behavior or erasing the pain of the women that suffered because of it.
(For example The main character only becomes friends with her ex-husband after they talk about the pain he caused her and they both recognize each other as complex human beings)
The book is good because it catches the complexity of human relationships without painting one side as purely evil and one side as purely good.
I haven‘t seen either movie yet, but from everything I could find online so far it seems like they missed that point completely which is very sad.
(The copy of the book I have literally starts with an authors note about why the 1985 Movie adaptation of The Color Purple isn‘t as good as the book, raising very similar points to the ones that are being raised now about the new movie adaptation.)
So if you want to take anything away from my long comment:
Read the book.
Chez I noticing you are becoming very Pro-black in your content and I just want to say I am very proud of you and keep up the good work!!👍
We never needed this movie in general not the original and we damn sure didn’t need a remake
Black woman spotting the bulls*t and calling it out. A blessing to the world.
This really was about one family problems with the men in that one family. It wasn't really a story about a whole town or place. This was a story of what one woman and her sister went through. It didn't focus on what was really happening with every woman there. This was just one story about a woman and the women connected to her life. It was just a story about one woman and the bad time ahe had with the men in her life. It wasn't about something that happened to everybody or every woman or man there. It was just based on a family and the triumphs of how two sisters were separated and what they went through to unite in the end. A few others were involved but only to tell their story.
I had no urge to watch the first one I definitely don’t want to see the second one Oprah and hollyweird has this agenda I can’t get with
Well, done.The Colour Purple starts in the 1910s. The campaigning newspaper editor, Ida B Wells wrote about lynching from 1892. White people claimed that lynching was about sexual violence by black men. Ida's research uncovered a difference reason - 'For Wells, lynching was intricately linked to the protection of white economic power. It was an unofficial tool of the state to thwart black economic advancement." She also investigated the lynching of black women. ruclips.net/video/W0vfHQNEfv8/видео.html
The only time black women were lynched is if they stood by their black husbands side or stood up to a white man
So women were not victimized in the fashion presented in the movie? You need to talk to some of the women who lived back then. I offered my mother the argument presented in the movie when I was a teen. She pretty much said hurt people hurt people. I don’t know how you didn’t see the system created those men. And the story did not take place during reconstruction.
Black women you are doing injustice to your men. That is the reason they are living you and going overseas to marry. Shame on you.
Bw aren't a monolith, unless all bm are drill rappers and thugs.
Well said my sister!👏🏾✊🏾
But there are some black men that act like Mr. I see it at my register as a cashier. And there are black men that are doing positive things this is just one story if you want to show the other side, then make your home movie. I’ve noticed anytime something comes out with a positive clean-cut sub subject, Black people don’t go see it. So Hollywood thinks we want gangsters, whores, pimps, rap music that’s what they think because that’s how a lot of us act.
Why is the black man so feared, hated, and vilified? It's an attempt to bind him, because he is so strong!
”But no one can go into a strong man’s house and steal his property unless he first overpowers and ties up the strong man, and then he will ransack and rob his house." (Mark 3:27 AMP.)
Where can men find women like you? lol - thank you for bringing this perspective to light.
Great Video. Love the historical context.
There is no historical content. The movie is based on a book of fiction. The movie is a disgrace.
Shouldn't have touched it. Oprah tryna cash in on nostalgia like most in Hollywood.
"Black Men oppressing black women on plantations during the Reconstruction Era"
The story takes place between 1909 and 1947.
I think it’s disgusting that anyone took part in this filth