For those of you who don’t understand that Ryan Murphy creates amazing alternative universes. This show is supposed to show another world that Hollywood could have/should have/never was...
I totally agree with you. But Hollywood ,nowdays, is very far from reaching the equality in the movie industry. even with all the progress we living .There's still a lot of things to do .
Exactly. I see a lot of "woke" posts all around that condemns the show and calls it dangerous. I think that those people are being severely condescending towards the show's audience. Hollywood is so over the top, that no one in their right mind would think that it reflects reality in any meaningful way. Claiming that the show is dangerous is not far from claiming that The Sound of Music is dangerous towards our understanding of holocaust survivors. And this is exactly the point. Hollywood is not only trying to mimic the style, clothes, music etc. from that period, but also how stories were told. I think that the key was when they discussed whether to rewrite the ending of Peg/Meg. This was a discussion that pointed back on the show itself. They said they were doing it because they thought it would be more empowering for women in Hollywood. Obviously everyone is painfully aware of reality (and in this context: the real story of Peg), so rewriting history isn't the same as deleting it, it's a tool to inject hope into people and battle cynicism. This was also the function that movies had during that time and during the great depression, where reality was exceptionally bleak.
I didn't know about any of these people before watching this so I completely missed that it was meant to be an alternate universe for real actors. Although I liked the show, I might've enjoyed it more if i'd known that from the beginning.
Baby Gay Rock Hudson is absolutely everything, seeing him getting to actually have a boyfriend and be open... that warmed my heart. Also placing bets now, Parsons is getting an Emmy nomination
My brain keeps flipping between who I think is the best actor in the series. I think I’ve just decided: they are just all the best and all deserve ten Emmies.
It was painfully historically inaccurate but that was kind of the point to show what COULD HAVE BEEN so I don't get why people are complaining about that Also, Jim Parsons is an amazing and versatile actor, I literally didn't think about Sheldon Cooper once while watching this
People are complaining about its shit. It didn't happen and things are not much better today. It's just wish fulfillment ,and wishing never made anything better.
@@91clarie you change things by hard work. Nothing has ever changed by wishing. If wishing had ever done anything the world would be a much better place than it is.
@@eliselianaboyd2547 yeah but why would you even put in all the hard work? Because you WISH for things to change first. Otherwise you wouldn't need to do anything
the problem is the misdirection bait and switch. They spent FAR too long spending a half-ass effort to set up the true stories of Hollywood before switching late in the game to this alternate wish-fulfillment fantasy. Had they set up this alternative reality much sooner, people may have been along for the ride. The point the intended to make was valid but what they made was overstated cinemasterbation.
Samara Worlobah That’s how you know Parsons was such a good fit for that role (that sounds like a really bad compliment...) It takes a really good actor to get you to truly hate a character as much as we all collectively hate Henry.
It sucks that it didn’t happen in real life! I’ve searched and I found out that Henry never did that! He kept being a terrible person until he was bankrupt and died alone after all! Rock Hudson stayed in the closet until he died from AIDS! And lots of people including the president who was close to him refused to offer him help!! It’s so sad!
That was my favourite scene of the show. He apologises and accepts that Rock won't forgive him without fighting it. I don't think he deserves to be forgiven but I think that's how an apology should be.
Camille deserved so much better. While the other main characters (Archie, Jack and Rock Hudson) have MANY insight in their lives, where they are from, their conflicts and motivation (all of the men show their passion, why they wanna be in hollywood, and how long they are willing to go to achive their dreams for MANY times in the show), camille has just a few scenes developing her character. Until more than half of the show they really just don´t show enough of her. They say she is the best actress in the studio but they don´t show that, she only is shown acting 2 times before the casting (the 2 maid scenes). They cast her as the protagonist of the movie but until half the show she is NOT a protagonist in the show. The show portrays her more like an idea ("we want a black woman in a lead role") than a human character that the audience roots to overcome racism in hollywood and achieve the goal of being a successful actress. I really wish they have invested in her character development as much as with the men.
Isabella Soares I thought I was the only one that felt like they didn’t really show anything about her personal life or background...they just touched the surface
totally have the same thought as you. also kinda sucks how the women characters didn't get closure like the men did. I wanted to see what happened to Camille, Claire, Avis and even Ellen. the last scene was really just all the men.
Isabella Soares: Maybe Ryan Murphy will option your comment as his next adaptation. Sorry you didn’t enjoy it but the idea was to weave all the storylines together and not just focus exclusively on one.
You know, if you do believe in alternate dimensions, there very well could be an alternate reality in which things play out similar to this. One can only dream...
@gray73 we are talking about America, a place where you have all this, not about Asia or Africa, which by the way, do have shows from worldwide. The reality behind this show is a hard one and you can't suggest that its like Korean tv, or african tv
@gray73 Actually when I see something other races do to white people I disagree, but your example is incorrect. As an african girl that her mother watch african tv, I can tell you there are shows with white people that are translated to my mom language. But the fact is that in Germany most of the population is white so you probably see more white people on tv, in Eithiopia the population is mostly black people so you will see more black people but America that used to be in the time of this show is just plain racist
gray73 no, that’s certainly not true. Anytime there’s a role calling for a white actor in an African movie, they do exactly that. They don’t take a black actor and whiten them to play a white role. Which is what has happened and still happening in Hollywood for centuries
JLew wow I didn’t know he wanted to leave that god-aweful show. It was more so the live audience that ruined it for me. Managed to do 2 seasons then I was like nope!
ChrisENT The show actually gets funnier mid season , but it does get repetitive 😂🤣 btw I didn’t realise that I replied to the same person on this video. I got confused when I got the notifications and you were talking about 2 different things 🤣😂
You left out the biggest "character" of all. The basis from which the whole story springboards. "Full Service" a book by Scotty Bowers about a "gas station" that truly did exist during post WWII.
@@beauxbromwell5121 They were not portraying Scotty Bowers as an actual character. He started as an attendant and never became the manager or owner of the "gas station". The production took liberties with a depiction where even the owner's aspirations were a part of "Dreamland".
Yeah, the whole “Full Service” thing immediately came to mind when I watched this series. Although the documentary was fun, I would love to see a movie based on Scotty Bowers book someday.
Missy Missymiss I would also. There is a documentary but, for me, not nearly as good as the book. Although you do get an insight into his character from his real life interactions.
Yes its historically inaccurate but you don't watch a fantasy movie then complain that magic doesnt exist it was made clear that this is an alternate history. Things end 'happily' in this but they still make it evident that hate is still there. Even as they're all getting their happy endings they're still being bullied and judged. But can't we just enjoy the idea that despite all that hate they still suceede even if its impossible
When I watched the show, it bothered me how happy the ending was. I thought it was unrealistic, because the characters would have been much worse off in Hollywood during the mid 20th century. However, after watching this video, I understand why they wrote the ending the way they did. It totally makes sense with how the characters changed the story of Peg to Meg.
@@robert7567 Ya, and I didn't really recognize that until I watched this and looked back on the series as a whole. Not that I wasn't looking for those sort of themes, but I wasn't very familiar with the characters' actual histories.
@Josef Kroboth I agree with you on that but Ryan has a good record of making great equals. Take AHS or ACS for example. I think if they do another season, it would be with different characters in a different timeline with the same actors, like AHS.
The amount of people who don’t understand what the word “reimagining” means is so annoying. WE KNOW this wasn’t the reality of what happened in history.
@KC Woolsey it's not about "agreeing" really, no one is denying the actual history of hollywood and how it actually was back then. It's a reimagining though, a complete fantasy with realistic rules to see what would happen if these things had happened. Either way, a lot of these people existed and were who they were in the show. So even if they made a realistic show about Rock Hudson or Anna May Wong, he'd still be gay and she'd still be Chinese American.
the main objective of this show makes me wish that they would re-write other wrongs throughout the decades, like judy garland's loss in 1955, the color purple's lack of any oscars despite its long list of nominations, etc.
Pink panda: The perception of Steven Spielberg on THE COLOR PURPLE by Hollywood was that he should be satisfied with the monetary success of his films so that the Oscars could help lesser known films. Judy Garland did give a better more emotionally involved performance but the film cost $5.4 million, double than it should. As a result, it would unlikely break even; it was a small story told on a big budget. In addition, she had no studio behind her and was not too well liked professionally. She and her producer husband should of been better.
I just binge watched this last night! It was a roller coaster ride of emotions.. The acting was amazing! Personally, this is my favorite netflix series.
The thing about the cast is that at least for me, all of the actors looked vaguely familiar but I couldn’t place any but two (Jim Parsons and Patti LuPone). I think it works really well with the aesthetic of the show all of these characters with familiar Hollywood faces but still only people in the show. (Sorry if that wasn’t explained very well.)
1. Why am I seeing this only 5 days later? 2. This show is the best I’ve ever seen and it is incredibly inspiring for who wants to work in cinematography. In other videos some people even commented that even tough they never wanted to work in cinematography,were persuaded by the show and were close to become a director. 3. I definitely won’t be surprised if they win all awards this year. Seriously good job.
Jacub81: Hmmmm? Which “Limited Mini Series” had the better looking guys milling around in underwear? And, for “Best Costuming of a Mini Series” how tight and skimpy were the underwear? Did they conceal and showcase the actor’s talent but remain true to the character? Decisions will be made, votes taken and Emmys awarded. Stay tuned.
I wasn’t expecting this to show make me cry as hard as it did (in a good way) it was just so refreshing to see a more hopeful and happy ending for minorities in Hollywood, even though it wasn’t reality at all. I love this show so much
It really is a great show, and made all the more painful knowing it’s been almost a hundred years since these stories took place and not a goddamn thing has changed. There’s still sexual abuse, there’s still racism, there’s still homophobia
Oh man! If thats what she was doing imagine the household product empire she could have made! She could have been the Madam CJ Walker of household cleaning products! Wish I were her manager, I'd have made sure she got the last laugh!
This show speaks to me about being a minority even though there wasmt any latino actors/actresses but id still felt connected cause of archie and anna may wong also darren criss as minorities
@@GypsyFairy85 Matter of opinion but the actor who played the leading actor Jack Castello don't know his name but he's slightly above average to me... Those dimples.
We really have not come that far. You should really stop day dreaming and see the world the way it really is. Mat Bozeman career should show you just how little Hollywood has really changed.
Roberto Sena: Not exactly as studio executives are involved in the artistic side of production. The actual film role might require the actor to be horizontal most of the scenes so he was being tested. He might be required to raise his emotions quickly to a fever pitch and then slowly deflate. There may also have been a minimalist costume design and so he was being tested. The film might have a specific audience target in mind. Since the executive fit the profile, the encounter was part of the entire audition process. And lastly, acting as a professionactor
never one to miss an opportunity for a gay reference, Murphy has Eleanor Roosevelt make reference to being late to meet "Hick" - Lorena Hickok, her girlfriend for many years.
Monkey Face yup. Much of the reason for Darren Criss’ success is that he does pass for white, and almost every “Asian” part is given to mixed-race actors anyway. I wish it didn’t have to be this way.
Almost 40 years later Bruce Lee would be passed up for the role he actually wrote for David Carradine which is kung fu The Legend Continues. Bruce Lee wanted to be lead if not himself then an Asian kid period. Hollywood brought the rights and David Carridine became famous_ ( kill bill series
First I didn’t get it why it was so unrealistic but the story grew on me. We know this was not real but the wish that it was is greater. Hollywood never shows how life’s are it shows us how it should be. Especially Rock Hudson and Camille had the life they deserved. We all went to dreamland in „Hollywood“.
Sues Anna: I think you have a problem separating fiction and fantasy. “Rock Hudson” was a real person and “Camille” was not. The whole purpose was to show a twist on the actual treatment of people and situations of the 1950’s Hollywood.
I read some really bad critics for this show. I wasn't sure about it in the beggining but by the end I was crazy about it, a beautiful story that got me sobbing in the final episode!
I liked every character except Camille. She just wasn’t relatable and they didn’t show any human side of her, even Claire was a better and more interesting character
Because thriving against impossible odds (look at her family and where she came from) as well as working hard for your dreams is not human. A need for validation and being an outcast is definitely not relatable. Sure, yeah.
Luigi Cruz Ramírez I didn’t think she did that good of a job, so I didn’t really like her character. If the actress was different, I definitely would’ve liked her
Anton Maslowski *I honestly didn’t understand the line, I didn’t know too much about Eleanor (aside from the more obvious historical information) and barely noticed it. Could you explain?*
This series was wonderful! Everyone did such a marvellous job! Slightly off topic, i wish more Indians and south asians were also given a platform in hollywood ( generally, not this series of course) . Recently things have improved for other minorities and thats such a wonderful thing to happen. Indians are often just reduced to a joke...i wish they are given more of representation as well. I dont mean to take away anything from my comment, just something ive felt for a long time. I dont mean to cause any offence.
@gray73 are you suggesting that white people are discriminated against in the asian movie industry? Cause I just simply do not believe that to be the case.
gray73 despite the fact that there are so many bollywood films staring indians, they continue to hold these indians to western standards with light skin and softer features. seeing diversity in hollywood, which is the biggest film industry in the world, and diversity in ways that don’t involve asian characters being defined by their asian-ness isn’t too much to ask for
@gray73 god forbid whites should do the same? Learn your history, they did and still do! Thats what this whole show is about. They prefered to have white women play chinese women and so on and so forth. And its barely changed since then.
this video helped me a lot. I had such a hard time with this series. I loved it, it was fun and captivating, but something irked me. I think it was that all these characters get happy endings that didn't happen in real life. Especially the Women of Color. It makes sense, after seeing this video, that Ryan Murphy and the others wanted to redeem Hollywoods power player and give the people a happy ending.
*Hey, Netflix **7:33** you’ve got an editing mistake - where it should be Hattie McDaniel’s photo and video it’s Claire Wood* Please correct this! Edit: Yay! They correct it! :) ty
Who else got really anxious towards the end of the show always expecting that something really bad would happen? All so good to be true... so much that in real life it really was. At least we got to keep this beautiful story on the show S2
I wish they had someone that looked more like Rock and that had his charisma and appeal. Also, Rock Hudson never ever outed himself and was intensely private about his personal life. Also I know everything has to be politically correct, but this is taking it to a new level.
Let me be the one to say that Hollywood gives hints of the book Star Power written by the late Scotty Bowers. The underbelly of LGBTQ Hollywood actors being matched with dates from a gas station within the same town. Very little diversity being catapulted during the celluloid era in the golden age of entertainment. Mr. Bower himself told me once that it was rare for him to set up interracial relations, though it was done just as it was. Either way, I love this re-imagination through Ryan Murphy's perspective; it couldn't be more fitting.
I really like the series. It shows the hidden dark secrets behind the bright spotlights of Hollywood glamour. The casting couch, racism, women equality, and homophobia.
I really did enjoy this series , I loved this era was so glamorous yet so dark I loved the set , the wardrobe, hair, make up , the cars , I really felt like I was there , I did struggle with Rock Hudson a bit in the beginning I didn’t see it and the storyline of him dating a black man as rock was known to have a very specific type but i was able to evolve with it and it ended up being good
Are we all just glossing over the fact that Ryan Murphy, once again, uses Darren Chriss in another minority role? I know his character is supposed to be half-Phillipino, but that's only brought up a few times and is otherwise ignored--giving his character's story arc a decidedly "white & straight savior" slant.
Bard23 Darren Chris’s is actually half-filipino. His mother is from the Philippines. But I agree with you that in the show he kinda played the role of a white savior.
This show totally lies about Hattie McDaniel. Yes she played maids roles as did all other Black actors and actresses in most roles, but Hattie was extremely wealthy, lived in a Mansion in an all White neighborhood and was loved and respected. Hattie was quoted as saying her fellow Black peers would condemn her for the roles she played and she said " I had rather play a Maid for $500 per week than be a maid for $5 per week" . Hattie was not segregated into another room at the Oscars. She was seated toward the front with other Black actors and actresses. Watch her win the Oscar on the GWTW anniversary issue and see.
These series are too corporate to realize that an accurate depiction HOW things happen THE WAY they happen and WHY they happen that way would be riveting. The fact is much still happens the same way now, and that's why it has to be "fictionalized".
i really enjoyed that the show didn’t throw a wrench in the plot like someone died, it was all relatively happy start to finish and i really liked that pure aspect to the show, it’s very uplifting
Hattie McDaniel did not play a maid in gone with the wind, she played a slave. Not a maid. Very different. Her role and the roles of all the other “black” characters in that book and film are evidence of how the lives of black people were framed so as not to matter in all forms of American media. This film scores of others are forms of fiction that make it impossible to empathize with the “black” characters. This framing of “black people has bled into real life making it easy for non-“black” people to see a “black” person be harmed or killed unjustly and feel...nothing. Not even a drop of empathy, rather many focus on arbitrary things in the life of the harmed or killed “black” person to make it seem like they must have deserved to be harmed or killed. Hollywood is and always has been (from Birth of a Nation, until now) a propaganda machine. A very successful one at that. They just tried to change history by calling a slave a maid. Oh the caucasity.
Anna may wong tearing up but still clapping when she didn’t win the Oscar was brutal
but when she did win I was tearing up!!
It was really brutal, even I felt her pain.
I was crying with her
I usually don't do happy tears, but I cried when she won
Her real life story is honestly heartbreaking.
I wish Netflix actually made “Meg” and put it out in black and white. I would love to watch it
Wow....that would be great!!!!!!!
Yes !!
Petition to make that come true and here's my signature
and dreamland!
big yesssss
For those of you who don’t understand that Ryan Murphy creates amazing alternative universes. This show is supposed to show another world that Hollywood could have/should have/never was...
I totally agree with you. But Hollywood ,nowdays, is very far from reaching the equality in the movie industry. even with all the progress we living .There's still a lot of things to do .
Exactly. I see a lot of "woke" posts all around that condemns the show and calls it dangerous. I think that those people are being severely condescending towards the show's audience. Hollywood is so over the top, that no one in their right mind would think that it reflects reality in any meaningful way. Claiming that the show is dangerous is not far from claiming that The Sound of Music is dangerous towards our understanding of holocaust survivors. And this is exactly the point. Hollywood is not only trying to mimic the style, clothes, music etc. from that period, but also how stories were told. I think that the key was when they discussed whether to rewrite the ending of Peg/Meg. This was a discussion that pointed back on the show itself. They said they were doing it because they thought it would be more empowering for women in Hollywood. Obviously everyone is painfully aware of reality (and in this context: the real story of Peg), so rewriting history isn't the same as deleting it, it's a tool to inject hope into people and battle cynicism. This was also the function that movies had during that time and during the great depression, where reality was exceptionally bleak.
the white savior universe is one we don't need to see
I didn't know about any of these people before watching this so I completely missed that it was meant to be an alternate universe for real actors. Although I liked the show, I might've enjoyed it more if i'd known that from the beginning.
Well it Sure is Now ! It is Over the Top Flamers !and Mostly Talentless Actors and Horrible Movies ! Hollywood Sucks Now !
If anyone ever asks again “why do people care about representation so much?” Then they need to watch this show
Why it’s FAKE Liberals Making Hollywood Movies !
Steve Sanzari what???
i guarantee you no one has ever asked that💀
@@cantthinkofaname7525 someone has. probably anything you can think of someone has said.
alfred yes but what i mean is that this isn’t exactly a common saying like she’s making it out to be lmao
Baby Gay Rock Hudson is absolutely everything, seeing him getting to actually have a boyfriend and be open... that warmed my heart. Also placing bets now, Parsons is getting an Emmy nomination
He and Patti did amazingly!
Parson deserves that Emmy nomination
Hella agree, the love interest had me gripped with the show, made me feel happy.
My brain keeps flipping between who I think is the best actor in the series. I think I’ve just decided: they are just all the best and all deserve ten Emmies.
Oh.. Absolutely
It was painfully historically inaccurate but that was kind of the point to show what COULD HAVE BEEN so I don't get why people are complaining about that
Also, Jim Parsons is an amazing and versatile actor, I literally didn't think about Sheldon Cooper once while watching this
People are complaining about its shit. It didn't happen and things are not much better today. It's just wish fulfillment ,and wishing never made anything better.
@@eliselianaboyd2547 ofc wishing makes things better, it's the first step to make change happen
@@91clarie you change things by hard work. Nothing has ever changed by wishing. If wishing had ever done anything the world would be a much better place than it is.
@@eliselianaboyd2547 yeah but why would you even put in all the hard work? Because you WISH for things to change first. Otherwise you wouldn't need to do anything
the problem is the misdirection bait and switch. They spent FAR too long spending a half-ass effort to set up the true stories of Hollywood before switching late in the game to this alternate wish-fulfillment fantasy. Had they set up this alternative reality much sooner, people may have been along for the ride. The point the intended to make was valid but what they made was overstated cinemasterbation.
What a great show, i personally enjoyed Jim Parsons acting amazing.
I agree Jim Parsons was defiantly a scene stealer
Yes! Henry was an evil, scary, molester, but Jim Parson’s acting made him the best character
he had some of the best lines
Samara Worlobah That’s how you know Parsons was such a good fit for that role (that sounds like a really bad compliment...)
It takes a really good actor to get you to truly hate a character as much as we all collectively hate Henry.
When he says something to offend, I keep saying “BAZINGA!” XD
I was glad Rock Hudson didnt accept his apology..he was awful
The fact that henry's character tried to be redeemed at all was kinda off-putting...
It sucks that it didn’t happen in real life! I’ve searched and I found out that Henry never did that! He kept being a terrible person until he was bankrupt and died alone after all! Rock Hudson stayed in the closet until he died from AIDS! And lots of people including the president who was close to him refused to offer him help!! It’s so sad!
That was my favourite scene of the show. He apologises and accepts that Rock won't forgive him without fighting it. I don't think he deserves to be forgiven but I think that's how an apology should be.
Camille deserved so much better. While the other main characters (Archie, Jack and Rock Hudson) have MANY insight in their lives, where they are from, their conflicts and motivation (all of the men show their passion, why they wanna be in hollywood, and how long they are willing to go to achive their dreams for MANY times in the show), camille has just a few scenes developing her character. Until more than half of the show they really just don´t show enough of her. They say she is the best actress in the studio but they don´t show that, she only is shown acting 2 times before the casting (the 2 maid scenes). They cast her as the protagonist of the movie but until half the show she is NOT a protagonist in the show. The show portrays her more like an idea ("we want a black woman in a lead role") than a human character that the audience roots to overcome racism in hollywood and achieve the goal of being a successful actress. I really wish they have invested in her character development as much as with the men.
Isabella Soares I thought I was the only one that felt like they didn’t really show anything about her personal life or background...they just touched the surface
totally have the same thought as you. also kinda sucks how the women characters didn't get closure like the men did. I wanted to see what happened to Camille, Claire, Avis and even Ellen. the last scene was really just all the men.
i totally agree
I totally agree. Somehow Claire had better closure and more of an arc than Camille, and she was barely in the show too!
Isabella Soares: Maybe Ryan Murphy will option your comment as his next adaptation. Sorry you didn’t enjoy it but the idea was to weave all the storylines together and not just focus exclusively on one.
They need a real movie about anna may wong.
Yes I agree! They need a spin-off for Anna may wong ❤ she was brilliant in the film
Also a Hattie McDaniel biopic
The reality behind this show is heart breaking, indeed what I wish would've happened back then instead of what happened
You know, if you do believe in alternate dimensions, there very well could be an alternate reality in which things play out similar to this. One can only dream...
@gray73 we are talking about America, a place where you have all this, not about Asia or Africa, which by the way, do have shows from worldwide. The reality behind this show is a hard one and you can't suggest that its like Korean tv, or african tv
@gray73 Actually when I see something other races do to white people I disagree, but your example is incorrect. As an african girl that her mother watch african tv, I can tell you there are shows with white people that are translated to my mom language. But the fact is that in Germany most of the population is white so you probably see more white people on tv, in Eithiopia the population is mostly black people so you will see more black people but America that used to be in the time of this show is just plain racist
gray73 no, that’s certainly not true. Anytime there’s a role calling for a white actor in an African movie, they do exactly that. They don’t take a black actor and whiten them to play a white role. Which is what has happened and still happening in Hollywood for centuries
@@priscillaayine9614 👏👏
I cried like a goddamn baby watching this show
SAMMMEEEE
Me too especially when the parts off Anna may and Ernie’s cancer
Omg me 2
TNH same
TNH me too !!!
I never actually liked Jim Parson’s acting, but after watching this I have to say he has earned a fan, and maybe an Emmy
ChrisENT This is why he wanted to leave Big Bang , it didn’t serve him any more purposes .
JLew wow I didn’t know he wanted to leave that god-aweful show. It was more so the live audience that ruined it for me. Managed to do 2 seasons then I was like nope!
ChrisENT The show actually gets funnier mid season , but it does get repetitive 😂🤣 btw I didn’t realise that I replied to the same person on this video. I got confused when I got the notifications and you were talking about 2 different things 🤣😂
JLew same lol!
You left out the biggest "character" of all. The basis from which the whole story springboards. "Full Service" a book by Scotty Bowers about a "gas station" that truly did exist during post WWII.
Thank you or as scotty would put appreciate it baby!
dobwatches right only thing is he was much younger than how they made him look
@@beauxbromwell5121 They were not portraying Scotty Bowers as an actual character. He started as an attendant and never became the manager or owner of the "gas station". The production took liberties with a depiction where even the owner's aspirations were a part of "Dreamland".
Yeah, the whole “Full Service” thing immediately came to mind when I watched this series. Although the documentary was fun, I would love to see a movie based on Scotty Bowers book someday.
Missy Missymiss I would also. There is a documentary but, for me, not nearly as good as the book. Although you do get an insight into his character from his real life interactions.
This show was so amazing, made me feel every type of emotion.
Yes its historically inaccurate but you don't watch a fantasy movie then complain that magic doesnt exist it was made clear that this is an alternate history. Things end 'happily' in this but they still make it evident that hate is still there. Even as they're all getting their happy endings they're still being bullied and judged. But can't we just enjoy the idea that despite all that hate they still suceede even if its impossible
I didn't complain when Hitler was killed in a movie theater fire in Paris.
@@adammosel4895 you mean that didn’t happen?
Jim Parson deserves an Emmy for his performance. I’d be shocked if he doesn’t get one
The Oscar scene made me burst into tears. It is so wholesome and sentimental, and I can really feel the emotions of the characters.
So this is about current hollywood stars playing past hollywood stars who are playing older hollywood stars
It’s more like rewriting history and showing how things would’ve been if the golden age of Hollywood era was more open minded.
ChrisENT I wouldn’t call it golden if it was so racist , homophobic and misogynistic etc...
JLew I’m not the one who called it that lol. That’s what many people in the entertainment industry called Hollywood back in the 40s-50s
ChrisENT I know you didn’t , I think the industry should just debunk that term for that era because it was far from golden 👏🏽
JLew as a black man I agree.
When I watched the show, it bothered me how happy the ending was. I thought it was unrealistic, because the characters would have been much worse off in Hollywood during the mid 20th century. However, after watching this video, I understand why they wrote the ending the way they did. It totally makes sense with how the characters changed the story of Peg to Meg.
But the show makes it clear that they’re moving into the “what if”. It’s even mentioned in episode 5, I think.
@@robert7567 Ya, and I didn't really recognize that until I watched this and looked back on the series as a whole. Not that I wasn't looking for those sort of themes, but I wasn't very familiar with the characters' actual histories.
literally same
It is supposed to be like that
Ryan Stannard I just find it disrespectful to peg. Given she was an actual person
If it doesn't get a season 2, I'm losing my faith in Netflix.
@Josef Kroboth I agree with you on that but Ryan has a good record of making great equals. Take AHS or ACS for example. I think if they do another season, it would be with different characters in a different timeline with the same actors, like AHS.
Thought it was only one season, Netflix said it was a limited series, idk though
@@Funnyj33ns it is a limited series but it can have more seasons. we don't know if they will but we can try!
hopefully they go the same direction they did with AHS and ACS cause I need more of this
@Josef Kroboth I think the show was great but I think the message came across well enough and it should remain a limited series.
I really feel like Jeremy Pope and Jim Parsons should be getting Emmy nominations for this show, beautiful acting performances
definitely!
The amount of people who don’t understand what the word “reimagining” means is so annoying. WE KNOW this wasn’t the reality of what happened in history.
Progressives love to rearrange history. Makes them feel good.
@@AJ-zg5xxw I do every time I listen to a Millennial Progressive.
So sad, very sad.
I can't even trust their history anymore.
@@AQuietNight awww, there, there, it is ok. It must be really tough for you to swallow. You are stronger than you thought. LMFAO
@@AJ-zg5xxw Thanks for the pep talk but liars are liars.
@KC Woolsey it's not about "agreeing" really, no one is denying the actual history of hollywood and how it actually was back then. It's a reimagining though, a complete fantasy with realistic rules to see what would happen if these things had happened. Either way, a lot of these people existed and were who they were in the show. So even if they made a realistic show about Rock Hudson or Anna May Wong, he'd still be gay and she'd still be Chinese American.
the main objective of this show makes me wish that they would re-write other wrongs throughout the decades, like judy garland's loss in 1955, the color purple's lack of any oscars despite its long list of nominations, etc.
Here here!!! Hollywood’s lead character... Satan!!!
Pink panda: The perception of Steven Spielberg on THE COLOR PURPLE by Hollywood was that he should be satisfied with the monetary success of his films so that the Oscars could help lesser known films. Judy Garland did give a better more emotionally involved performance but the film cost $5.4 million, double than it should. As a result, it would unlikely break even; it was a small story told on a big budget. In addition, she had no studio behind her and was not too well liked professionally. She and her producer husband should of been better.
Ray and Archie are my favorite characters 😍😍😍
Friendsfans123 dead ass
I just binge watched this last night! It was a roller coaster ride of emotions.. The acting was amazing! Personally, this is my favorite netflix series.
It is great entertainment with a great cast as you can expect from Ryan Murphy. Really enjoyed this rewrite in history.
The thing about the cast is that at least for me, all of the actors looked vaguely familiar but I couldn’t place any but two (Jim Parsons and Patti LuPone). I think it works really well with the aesthetic of the show all of these characters with familiar Hollywood faces but still only people in the show. (Sorry if that wasn’t explained very well.)
1. Why am I seeing this only 5 days later?
2. This show is the best I’ve ever seen and it is incredibly inspiring for who wants to work in cinematography. In other videos some people even commented that even tough they never wanted to work in cinematography,were persuaded by the show and were close to become a director.
3. I definitely won’t be surprised if they win all awards this year. Seriously good job.
Best show of 2020 so far... I almost bet this show we’ll be nominated for a golden globes and emmys
@Jacub81 nah
You really are joking.
@Jacub81teenagers shown ?!😂😂😂😂😂are you serious🤭?no chances 😂😂😂😂😂
Jacub81: Hmmmm? Which “Limited Mini Series” had the better looking guys milling around in underwear? And, for “Best Costuming of a Mini Series” how tight and skimpy were the underwear? Did they conceal and showcase the actor’s talent but remain true to the character? Decisions will be made, votes taken and Emmys awarded. Stay tuned.
@@johnpickford4222 couldn't have said it any better. 😅🤣😂😁
I think what Ryan Murphy does best is series based on the golden age of Hollywood like this one and Bette & Joan...
Yes! Loved Feud.
This was my favorite product of Ryan Murphy I've seen, so so good.
Jim Parsons was SO good
I just wished the series were a bit longer, and showed more of the struggle because while I’ve loved the ending it didn’t feel earned.
i really though 'shanghai angel' would become a thing in the end of the show
It was Angel of Shanghai not Shanghai Angel, by the way. Just tryna help.
Zoe Xu maybe it wasn’t important since the Chinese actress finally got her Oscar?? Idk.
I wasn’t expecting this to show make me cry as hard as it did (in a good way) it was just so refreshing to see a more hopeful and happy ending for minorities in Hollywood, even though it wasn’t reality at all. I love this show so much
It really is a great show, and made all the more painful knowing it’s been almost a hundred years since these stories took place and not a goddamn thing has changed. There’s still sexual abuse, there’s still racism, there’s still homophobia
Hattie said she’d rather be paid to _play_ a maid, than actually *be* one.
Oh man! If thats what she was doing imagine the household product empire she could have made! She could have been the Madam CJ Walker of household cleaning products! Wish I were her manager, I'd have made sure she got the last laugh!
This show speaks to me about being a minority even though there wasmt any latino actors/actresses but id still felt connected cause of archie and anna may wong also darren criss as minorities
It would be great if they had a character for Anthony Quinn, a leading latino actor and 2x Oscar winner.
Darren Criss? Ok
@@c0ronariu5 You can repeat that to yourself all the time. But he is white and has white privilege.
I think when they made camille they thought of Dorothy Dandridge
For me it was a composite of Lena Horne Dorothy Dandringe and Freda Washington
@@1sotrue All of those women were drop dead beautiful, Laura Harrier although pleasant is just average. Most of the cast is.
@@GypsyFairy85 Matter of opinion but the actor who played the leading actor Jack Castello don't know his name but he's slightly above average to me... Those dimples.
Oh the irony if this series wins an Emmy lol
you mean and oscar, grammys are for music
You mean an Emmy, Oscars are for films.
well 🤭
Thank you guys. I gotta stop smoking cookies
Great to see how far we’ve come,and troubling to see how far we still must go.
We really have not come that far. You should really stop day dreaming and see the world the way it really is. Mat Bozeman career should show you just how little Hollywood has really changed.
*Fair point: but Parasite slamming the Oscars this year was a MAJOR step in the right direction*
Interesting I was thinking the opposite.
At the end Jack only got his big chance because he slept with the executive
Roberto Sena and for the most part that’s how Hollywood works
I mean it worked I guess...
Gender roles are dashed!!
Roberto Sena who was the executive?
Roberto Sena: Not exactly as studio executives are involved in the artistic side of production. The actual film role might require the actor to be horizontal most of the scenes so he was being tested. He might be required to raise his emotions quickly to a fever pitch and then slowly deflate. There may also have been a minimalist costume design and so he was being tested. The film might have a specific audience target in mind. Since the executive fit the profile, the encounter was part of the entire audition process. And lastly, acting as a professionactor
never one to miss an opportunity for a gay reference, Murphy has Eleanor Roosevelt make reference to being late to meet "Hick" - Lorena Hickok, her girlfriend for many years.
And suddenly everything goes dark again
Right
All my hope and dreams shattered
chris brown: Are you making a snide Donald Trump racist comment? Vote BIDEN. And don’t forget your face mask!
This just magnificent!!! Such great actors and actresses
this show is literally the definition of “why representation matters” i hope that if there is another season we can see actors with disabilities.
Hollywood is still tough on Asians even today, 2020.
Monkey Face yup. Much of the reason for Darren Criss’ success is that he does pass for white, and almost every “Asian” part is given to mixed-race actors anyway. I wish it didn’t have to be this way.
IVE WATCHED THE WHOLE THING TWICE I LOVE THIS SHOW SO MUCH OMFG
I need to watch again afew I got confused because alot of the guys had dark hair and I didnt know who was who at one time..lol
Btw, everyone is talking about Jim Parsons, but no one is mentioning Joe Mantello? Like he was amazing.
Dont know who that is.. but they all were amazing
@@nikradik is Dick samuels
Exactly!!! He was my favorite character and he made me cry so much
This become my favorite series for all time!!
Almost 40 years later Bruce Lee would be passed up for the role he actually wrote for David Carradine which is kung fu The Legend Continues. Bruce Lee wanted to be lead if not himself then an Asian kid period. Hollywood brought the rights and David Carridine became famous_ ( kill bill series
Add to that the way he was depicted by Tarantino in another fantasy "Once Upon A Time In Hollywood".
Yep. Even when he did the Kato show, they forced him to wear a mask so the audience wouldn't know he was Chinese.
I👏NEED👏SEASON👏2👏
👏🏽👏🏽me too!
you don't need it.
@@azlxns why?
@@azlxns Uhm, we need a second season of it.
I don’t think that the story is made for a second season
First I didn’t get it why it was so unrealistic but the story grew on me. We know this was not real but the wish that it was is greater. Hollywood never shows how life’s are it shows us how it should be. Especially Rock Hudson and Camille had the life they deserved. We all went to dreamland in „Hollywood“.
Sues Anna: I think you have a problem separating fiction and fantasy. “Rock Hudson” was a real person and “Camille” was not. The whole purpose was to show a twist on the actual treatment of people and situations of the 1950’s Hollywood.
OMG THIS SHOW WAS SO GOOD. Hope we get ANOTHER SEASON.
Camille is an amalgamation of Lena Horne and Dorothy Dandridge.
And Freda Washington
True
I cried every episode. I need a season 2!
And the Emmy goes to Jim Parsons! (seriously he was otherworldy in this show)
Jim Parsons deserves an Emmy nomination.
the gas station was real too!
Maggie because the owner and the station were a real thing. The owner was just much younger
Tallulah Bankhead (Paget Brewster) was the best part of the show!
Yes...something different from criminal minds!
Wow didn't even recognize her omg!
i love her in this!!
I read some really bad critics for this show. I wasn't sure about it in the beggining but by the end I was crazy about it, a beautiful story that got me sobbing in the final episode!
I liked every character except Camille. She just wasn’t relatable and they didn’t show any human side of her, even Claire was a better and more interesting character
uma baghirova I agree! I like literally everyone (maybe not Pearson’s character) but her!
Because thriving against impossible odds (look at her family and where she came from) as well as working hard for your dreams is not human. A need for validation and being an outcast is definitely not relatable. Sure, yeah.
Luigi Cruz Ramírez For me it had more to do with the actress...
@@imnotpaulavery7608 that's a very different thing.
Luigi Cruz Ramírez I didn’t think she did that good of a job, so I didn’t really like her character. If the actress was different, I definitely would’ve liked her
One of the greatest throwaway lines of the show, for those who know their Eleanor Roosevelt:
“I’m meeting Hick for dinner.”
Anton Maslowski *I honestly didn’t understand the line, I didn’t know too much about Eleanor (aside from the more obvious historical information) and barely noticed it. Could you explain?*
I didn’t get it either.
Oh shit, I had to google it but “Hick” was Lorena Hickok female journalist Eleanor Roosevelt was involved in romantic relationships with.
@@miracle_worker3270 THIS 🙂
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honestly, Ryan Murphy NEVER let me down on the way he portrays stories and diferent universes, it's always a work of art.
Avis was my favorite 🥰
This series was wonderful! Everyone did such a marvellous job!
Slightly off topic, i wish more Indians and south asians were also given a platform in hollywood ( generally, not this series of course) . Recently things have improved for other minorities and thats such a wonderful thing to happen. Indians are often just reduced to a joke...i wish they are given more of representation as well. I dont mean to take away anything from my comment, just something ive felt for a long time. I dont mean to cause any offence.
Have you seen "never have I ever"? Its about an Indian American girl. And its a great show! I loved it!
@gray73 are you suggesting that white people are discriminated against in the asian movie industry? Cause I just simply do not believe that to be the case.
gray73 despite the fact that there are so many bollywood films staring indians, they continue to hold these indians to western standards with light skin and softer features. seeing diversity in hollywood, which is the biggest film industry in the world, and diversity in ways that don’t involve asian characters being defined by their asian-ness isn’t too much to ask for
@gray73 god forbid whites should do the same? Learn your history, they did and still do! Thats what this whole show is about. They prefered to have white women play chinese women and so on and so forth. And its barely changed since then.
@gray73 on the backs of who was america built?
I just finished binge watching this show and it had me in tears
this video helped me a lot.
I had such a hard time with this series. I loved it, it was fun and captivating, but something irked me.
I think it was that all these characters get happy endings that didn't happen in real life. Especially the Women of Color.
It makes sense, after seeing this video, that Ryan Murphy and the others wanted to redeem Hollywoods power player and give the people a happy ending.
The show was good, but I STAYED for Anna May Wong. She ripped my heart and put it back together.
If you haven't already seen or read about the real woman please do so. Amazing, beautiful actress, with a low pitched sensuous speaking voice.
I want to just shake the writers hand this felt like a big movie the way I binged this was amazing art .
*Hey, Netflix **7:33** you’ve got an editing mistake - where it should be Hattie McDaniel’s photo and video it’s Claire Wood* Please correct this!
Edit: Yay! They correct it! :) ty
Who else got really anxious towards the end of the show always expecting that something really bad would happen? All so good to be true... so much that in real life it really was. At least we got to keep this beautiful story on the show S2
Agus yup. So much of the experience of watching this series came from dreading what might happen, but surprisingly didn’t.
Awesome show about time you got it right Netflix
#sixseasonsandamovie
Chirag Jampala 😂👍🏼
Joe Mantello was amazing in it. Great actor
Can we all talk about how good was Archie's character? Made me cry a lot of times.
I wish they had someone that looked more like Rock and that had his charisma and appeal. Also, Rock Hudson never ever outed himself and was intensely private about his personal life. Also I know everything has to be politically correct, but this is taking it to a new level.
Let me be the one to say that Hollywood gives hints of the book Star Power written by the late Scotty Bowers. The underbelly of LGBTQ Hollywood actors being matched with dates from a gas station within the same town. Very little diversity being catapulted during the celluloid era in the golden age of entertainment. Mr. Bower himself told me once that it was rare for him to set up interracial relations, though it was done just as it was. Either way, I love this re-imagination through Ryan Murphy's perspective; it couldn't be more fitting.
This change my life !
I really like the series. It shows the hidden dark secrets behind the bright spotlights of Hollywood glamour. The casting couch, racism, women equality, and homophobia.
I really did enjoy this series , I loved this era was so glamorous yet so dark I loved the set , the wardrobe, hair, make up , the cars , I really felt like I was there , I did struggle with Rock Hudson a bit in the beginning I didn’t see it and the storyline of him dating a black man as rock was known to have a very specific type but i was able to evolve with it and it ended up being good
What was his type??
Are we all just glossing over the fact that Ryan Murphy, once again, uses Darren Chriss in another minority role? I know his character is supposed to be half-Phillipino, but that's only brought up a few times and is otherwise ignored--giving his character's story arc a decidedly "white & straight savior" slant.
Bard23 Darren Chris’s is actually half-filipino. His mother is from the Philippines. But I agree with you that in the show he kinda played the role of a white savior.
He, like his character, owes much of his success to being able to pass for white.
I loved him Parsons and dylan McDermott but Jeremy Pope (archie) and Jack Picking had me crying and crying and crying. This series was great
I adore Jim Parsons and his role in this movie is insane and he pulls it off like the star he is!!!
Absolutely love this show. I may be 37, but there was something hilarious in hearing Jim Pearson swear.😹
The man at 0:01 reminds me of Henry Cavill
For sure... I thought it was him.. They can play brothers on film
Thank you. Finally, this was easier than surfing the net for each individual..
Laura was amazing and so beautiful! can't wait for season 2!
This show totally lies about Hattie McDaniel. Yes she played maids roles as did all other Black actors and actresses in most roles, but Hattie was extremely wealthy, lived in a Mansion in an all White neighborhood and was loved and respected. Hattie was quoted as saying her fellow Black peers would condemn her for the roles she played and she said " I had rather play a Maid for $500 per week than be a maid for $5 per week" . Hattie was not segregated into another room at the Oscars. She was seated toward the front with other Black actors and actresses. Watch her win the Oscar on the GWTW anniversary issue and see.
Such an amazing show and definitely needs more credit!
6:05 Holy crap Jim Parsons looks exactly like Henry Wilson! And even Jake Picking looks really similar to Rock Hudson!
EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT AND EXCELLENT on sooooo many levels!!!!!!!
That apology scene between Henry and Rock was extremely powerful. Both stole the show in my opinion.
These series are too corporate to realize that an accurate depiction HOW things happen THE WAY they happen and WHY they happen that way
would be riveting. The fact is much still happens the same way now, and that's why it has to be "fictionalized".
You know what we need? Season 2!!!
i really enjoyed that the show didn’t throw a wrench in the plot like someone died, it was all relatively happy start to finish and i really liked that pure aspect to the show, it’s very uplifting
Hattie McDaniel did not play a maid in gone with the wind, she played a slave. Not a maid. Very different. Her role and the roles of all the other “black” characters in that book and film are evidence of how the lives of black people were framed so as not to matter in all forms of American media. This film scores of others are forms of fiction that make it impossible to empathize with the “black” characters. This framing of “black people has bled into real life making it easy for non-“black” people to see a “black” person be harmed or killed unjustly and feel...nothing. Not even a drop of empathy, rather many focus on arbitrary things in the life of the harmed or killed “black” person to make it seem like they must have deserved to be harmed or killed. Hollywood is and always has been (from Birth of a Nation, until now) a propaganda machine. A very successful one at that. They just tried to change history by calling a slave a maid. Oh the caucasity.
Best show on netflix by far this year.
Jim parson in this was amazing
I love an english accent, "after she jumped from the 'heche' of the Hollywood sign." :)
"Cor Blimey Guv'nor, me Shepherds Pie, an' Spotted Dick..."