This channel is too good not too. Also, you guys are both in Florida and my boy T ray has the connect. Should honestly tell cleetus youll paint his firetruck or something crazy for the content!!!!
Nothing better than one of your favorite RUclipsr to get through the pain after my gallbladder removal surgery today. Keep up the great work and great vids. Betty white will be fire when she’s wrapped up.
When bending aluminum you need to bend it 90 degrees from the grain (look at the sheet and you'll see the grain). When making multiple bends that are 90 degrees from each other, then the grain needs to be 45 degrees in relationship to the bends to prevent cracking of either bend. The radius of the bend needs to be kept in mind depending on the thickness of the aluminum (not too tight). Just FYI from an old aircraft mechanic!!
Awsome comment I love learning new things especially from guys that did it before all the types tools technology given us was around they know all the tips and tricks thanks for the info
Every time I see that engine bay color, I'm reminded of the DEADBEAT GARAGE Khaki Civic, where's my DB Fam, I know you're out there!😎 Thing's coming along nicely man, getting closer to a smoke show every day!
One tip with aluminum Always tape the aluminum where it come in contact with steel It will rust easily I use clear tape You’re welcome Love the build by the way
You have no idea how much I love this build. Definitely the kind of thing I'm interested in. I've got crazy ideas, and seeing you pull something off just about as crazy is helping me believe it can be done lol.
My First 3 cars ( 1962 BelAir sedan 1962 Impala wagon 1962 Impala SS ) had a single master cylinder and they all had drum brakes on all 4 corners, never had brake problems.
Dude, I saw in Ryan Tuerck's channel too, in one of his recent vlogs in building his car, his fabricator also said the same thing about 6061 breaking when bended. He recommend going for 5052 for bending.
Glad you switched that master cylinder. I would've worred with that other one that's why I said something. Normally we plumb them with the front brakes on the front port and rear brakes on the back port. Some master cylinders have proportioning valves built into the port for rear disk applications. I want to say those don't but might want to make sure. Keep hustling on it! Can't wait till you fire it up!
Great videos! I have the same car.... well before you cut it up that is. Oh, I use heat to help shape AL. 400 degrees typically and a radius is a good idea.
Utility knife, score your aluminium or steel before bending. And for thicker material, go slow, say 20 degrees at a time, and let it cool a few seconds between each rebend.
You can take the T6 temper out by heating with a blow torch and then quenching. Then the more you bend it, the more it will work harden again, so you can resoften it again the same way.
Excellent work so far mate. If not to much more work perhaps you can relocate your brake pressure/bias into the car that way you can make brake adjustments on the fly.
Very nice progress Adam. I can't wait to see this beast on the road! And you should definitely ask Cleetus to do the first rip on the FF burnout pad!!!! Dutch regards, Nico.
2 things.. 1st.. Aluminum hates tight radius bends. When you retry it, make the corner fatter. 2nd Taylor discovered running the main supply and returns before the engine and trans went in was best. There wasn't enough room to secure it was well as he'd like.
.063 T6 will bend easily actually. When cutting it look at the grain and the radius your using. Tight radius is always gonna be rougher BUT bend AGAINST the grain. You will have to watch how you cut/fab your piece. Something like what your designing you’d want the grain going across at an angle. They still came out nice looking regardless. Love the build and color choice
When bending aluminum, you have to bend against the grain otherwise it will snap as you found out. 5052 is slightly softer than 6061 but they are both aircraft grade aluminum so bending against the grain is the best way to bend without getting heat involved as someone else suggested.
Welcome to 2020! Where every month is the beginning of something new! Bode man you hit that on the nail.... impatiently waiting to see the title "V8 Honda Accord moving on it's power!!!! Great stuff man keep it coming.
Hey I do some fabrication a lot of aluminum and grain structure is super important! That looked like 2024 or 6061, and especially if it’s heat treated you want to make sure the grains go into the radius
I have more experience in machining and welding aluminum than bending it. But since you already used that punch & flare tool, and it went well. Maybe if you use the same radius in the bends that is in those flares, it wouldn't crack.
Bode - Did you check your brake system fittings to see if they require a single flare or double flare? It looks like you are only doing a single flare on your lines. This is very important as you have to match the flare to the fitting or the system will leak. Had the same issue as you with 6061 aluminum and had to anneal it every time I wanted to bend it. Annealing worked great and you can always re-anneal if you need multiple bends in the same area. I use a candle to soot the metal and then a MAP torch to anneal by just burning away the soot. Keep the soot layer thin so you get the correct annealing temperature. There is a fine line between annealing and melting with thin aluminum plate (ask me how I know). Keep up the good work.
We all get caught out now and again with metal not doing what we want it to do, then we learn from our errors, I made the same error years ago and all my work mates at the time watched as it snapped clean off. They said you have to learn by your mistakes then showed me why. I also tried to use clear braided hose for fuel again mistakes were made. This is coming along in leaps and bounds but as Jay Leno says you can't do a real build in a week it takes time to get it right.
Any updates on the underside of transmission tunnel and trunk? Painted? Undercoating? Engine already going back in but I haven’t seen any mention. Keep it up.
For the floor plate are you concerned about dirt and other things getting through the dimple dies and being trapped between the two plates or am I missing something or not understanding how they go together?
You might still have trouble with cracking on 5052 if you are using that finger bender. You really need a larger radius bend. Get a few small test pieces so you don't waste too much $$
Is that Stainless brake line if so you don’t want the use a tubing cutter line will crack when you Flare It you should use a hacksaw to cut it just a helpful hint
Just a thought... why don't you run 1 of your brake circuit to the LHF and the RHR and the other brake circuit to the RHF and the LHR. That way if one of the circuits fail you should pick it up before its too late... just a thought.
I'm not a fan of dimple dies for the floorboard. Too easy for dirt and debris to get down in there, especially since you plan to daily drive it. Plus I'm not sure aluminum is the best material to use on a floorboard as the repeated getting in and out will probably weaken the material. Just my opinion though take it as you will.
@@BodeVision It doesn't look like one in the vid. From what I understand from automotive class it's a two step process. 1st you flare it and then you use another dye to fold it over onto itself thus double flare. Good call on replacing the master cylinder.
When you have the ability to something like this, you do it. It's technical, but also artistic. He is making what he wants because he enjoys it. Also why I watch. I don't want to speak for him though. Just my opinion Edit- It's also educational. He explains what he does and isn't afraid to make mistakes. You learn.
the only thing that that unibody needed was maybe a set of subframe connectors and that's it you could have put a four-point roll cage in it and subprime connectors bolted your diff on and then just fine instead man you added a lot of weight to that car a lot unnecessarily
We gotta get bode and Cleetus hooked up for some stuff. Need to blow this channel up
This channel is too good not too. Also, you guys are both in Florida and my boy T ray has the connect. Should honestly tell cleetus youll paint his firetruck or something crazy for the content!!!!
Did somebody say bald eagles
Dude yes I’ve been wondering why bode hasent got more recognition.if he could take this to the burnout challenges that would be badass.
Shit all he needs to do is some paint work for em🤷🏾♂️
Nothing better than one of your favorite RUclipsr to get through the pain after my gallbladder removal surgery today. Keep up the great work and great vids. Betty white will be fire when she’s wrapped up.
Thanks man and I hope the surgery went well! Speedy recovery!
Thanks Bode
When bending aluminum you need to bend it 90 degrees from the grain (look at the sheet and you'll see the grain). When making multiple bends that are 90 degrees from each other, then the grain needs to be 45 degrees in relationship to the bends to prevent cracking of either bend. The radius of the bend needs to be kept in mind depending on the thickness of the aluminum (not too tight). Just FYI from an old aircraft mechanic!!
Thanks for the insight! That makes a lot of sense
Awsome comment I love learning new things especially from guys that did it before all the types tools technology given us was around they know all the tips and tricks thanks for the info
Damnit I just commented something similar except you explained it better lol. Another aircraft mechanic here Andy B ;)
I said it too.
I give all of you props for the information his happen to just be the first I saw
Props on the listening and rethinking on stuff. Sometimes it just takes someone else to lead you in the right direction. Build is looking good!!!
Thanks man! If it’s a valid point I’ll for sure look into it
Cool tip on the aluminum is heat it up to stop if from breaking or cracking when bending it, looking good though coming out killer.
Or use 3003/5052
One thing I really like about your channel is you dont edit out all your mistakes. Now we all learned something from your trial and error.
6061 T6 Ally is heat treated making it stronger but more brittle and resists bending
Its bendable but needs a larger radius, doesn't stretch as well and it therefore tends to crack, rule of thunb when used in aircraft was Rad= 2X thk
Every time I see that engine bay color, I'm reminded of the DEADBEAT GARAGE Khaki Civic, where's my DB Fam, I know you're out there!😎 Thing's coming along nicely man, getting closer to a smoke show every day!
One tip with aluminum
Always tape the aluminum where it come in contact with steel
It will rust easily
I use clear tape
You’re welcome
Love the build by the way
Why don't you ask Taylor Ray to tig weld the floor plate brackets for you. I know you r working together and it will be a nice collab.
Probably after the next clutch kickers and cleetus ppv though. He is busy AF right now.
Don't you just love it when a plan comes together. Great video things are getting done and looking great.
You have no idea how much I love this build. Definitely the kind of thing I'm interested in. I've got crazy ideas, and seeing you pull something off just about as crazy is helping me believe it can be done lol.
My First 3 cars ( 1962 BelAir sedan 1962 Impala wagon 1962 Impala SS ) had a single master cylinder and they all had drum brakes on all 4 corners, never had brake problems.
This already a badass build! I cant wait to see it finished
Good job on the dual setup
Came along for some ideas for my own rwd swap and ended up watching the whole series! Awesome job dude, can't wait to see this tearing it up😎
Dude, I saw in Ryan Tuerck's channel too, in one of his recent vlogs in building his car, his fabricator also said the same thing about 6061 breaking when bended. He recommend going for 5052 for bending.
btw, Hello from Malaysia. I only got here since the start of this build, but I probably stay in this channel for good cus of your content Bode.
Akmal is correct. I was going to mention ryan tuercks channel too.
Glad you switched that master cylinder. I would've worred with that other one that's why I said something. Normally we plumb them with the front brakes on the front port and rear brakes on the back port. Some master cylinders have proportioning valves built into the port for rear disk applications. I want to say those don't but might want to make sure. Keep hustling on it! Can't wait till you fire it up!
For future reference 5052 is much better for bending. You can anneal 6061 but 5052 is the better choice. Looking good 👍👍
Great videos! I have the same car.... well before you cut it up that is. Oh, I use heat to help shape AL. 400 degrees typically and a radius is a good idea.
You can anneal the aluminum by heating it with acetylene only to get it all sooted up and then go back with oxy/acetylene and burn the soot off.
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Utility knife, score your aluminium or steel before bending. And for thicker material, go slow, say 20 degrees at a time, and let it cool a few seconds between each rebend.
Ride is looking sweet I cannot wait to hear the first start.
You can take the T6 temper out by heating with a blow torch and then quenching. Then the more you bend it, the more it will work harden again, so you can resoften it again the same way.
Is the end product "softer" and if so, how do you get the rigidity back so it won't bend undesirably?
Good looking out on the master whoever you are!!👍 great stuff as always Adam.
Excellent work so far mate. If not to much more work perhaps you can relocate your brake pressure/bias into the car that way you can make brake adjustments on the fly.
Thumbs up for the dual master cylinder!
Very nice progress Adam. I can't wait to see this beast on the road! And you should definitely ask Cleetus to do the first rip on the FF burnout pad!!!! Dutch regards, Nico.
That's cool that you showed your aluminum miss-step, other people would have skipped over that, or just not show it at all.
2 things.. 1st.. Aluminum hates tight radius bends. When you retry it, make the corner fatter.
2nd Taylor discovered running the main supply and returns before the engine and trans went in was best. There wasn't enough room to secure it was well as he'd like.
.063 T6 will bend easily actually. When cutting it look at the grain and the radius your using. Tight radius is always gonna be rougher BUT bend AGAINST the grain. You will have to watch how you cut/fab your piece. Something like what your designing you’d want the grain going across at an angle. They still came out nice looking regardless. Love the build and color choice
These details you put on here are very helpful man thanks.i had no idea there was code names for metal.
Let’s go baby uuuuuggggg parts
Dropping the DD on em !!!
Put grip tap on top of the floor pans
I'd grip tape them pedals too
Another great video 😎
love the intro voice over on this one was a classic
Wise choice to swap the single master cylinder for the dual . I was kinda questioning why you would go with the stock piece .
When bending aluminum, you have to bend against the grain otherwise it will snap as you found out. 5052 is slightly softer than 6061 but they are both aircraft grade aluminum so bending against the grain is the best way to bend without getting heat involved as someone else suggested.
Welcome to 2020! Where every month is the beginning of something new! Bode man you hit that on the nail.... impatiently waiting to see the title "V8 Honda Accord moving on it's power!!!! Great stuff man keep it coming.
Haha you and me both! I can’t wait to light the tires up!
@@BodeVision: 5th gear burnout?
LS White: Hold my steering....💨💨💨
Hey I do some fabrication a lot of aluminum and grain structure is super important! That looked like 2024 or 6061, and especially if it’s heat treated you want to make sure the grains go into the radius
I have more experience in machining and welding aluminum than bending it. But since you already used that punch & flare tool, and it went well. Maybe if you use the same radius in the bends that is in those flares, it wouldn't crack.
Bode - Did you check your brake system fittings to see if they require a single flare or double flare? It looks like you are only doing a single flare on your lines. This is very important as you have to match the flare to the fitting or the system will leak. Had the same issue as you with 6061 aluminum and had to anneal it every time I wanted to bend it. Annealing worked great and you can always re-anneal if you need multiple bends in the same area. I use a candle to soot the metal and then a MAP torch to anneal by just burning away the soot. Keep the soot layer thin so you get the correct annealing temperature. There is a fine line between annealing and melting with thin aluminum plate (ask me how I know). Keep up the good work.
I seen a truck the other day,and was like that is the color Adam is painting his car,i does not look bad at all...
Hell yeah it's looking soooo good
So stoked for this build can't wait to see her rip 👍🇺🇸🤘
Like the idea of the hole's just how much of a pain in the back will it be to clean under it. Unless I missed something
We all get caught out now and again with metal not doing what we want it to do, then we learn from our errors, I made the same error years ago and all my work mates at the time watched as it snapped clean off. They said you have to learn by your mistakes then showed me why. I also tried to use clear braided hose for fuel again mistakes were made. This is coming along in leaps and bounds but as Jay Leno says you can't do a real build in a week it takes time to get it right.
This car is going to be insane
Any updates on the underside of transmission tunnel and trunk? Painted? Undercoating? Engine already going back in but I haven’t seen any mention. Keep it up.
Hondaground gang gang 😎 💪 💯
Bro your intro had me in stitches 🤣
Very nice build, I’m new to your channel so don’t know if you have a tig welder. If so why not just tig it. you did a great job with what you have.
For the floor plate are you concerned about dirt and other things getting through the dimple dies and being trapped between the two plates or am I missing something or not understanding how they go together?
It’ll be easy to remove for cleaning
End of the build is soo close keep our up bro
Man your like the Martha Stewart of fabrication bro 😄👍🏼 looks good I'm hype for the engine to go in #bodesquad #projectbettywhite #v8accord
Is galvanic corrosion going to be an issue with dis-similar metals?
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Dose it a have pressure switch for a warning light for breaks
You might still have trouble with cracking on 5052 if you are using that finger bender. You really need a larger radius bend.
Get a few small test pieces so you don't waste too much $$
Thanks for the tip! I’ll look through their scrap pile and try a couple different options.
Is that Stainless brake line if so you don’t want the use a tubing cutter line will crack when you Flare It you should use a hacksaw to cut it just a helpful hint
It’s galvanized. Thanks for the tip
That car going to be Raw-as-fuck
Just a thought... why don't you run 1 of your brake circuit to the LHF and the RHR and the other brake circuit to the RHF and the LHR. That way if one of the circuits fail you should pick it up before its too late... just a thought.
How much are you projecting for the cost of the swap?
Quarter inch plate weighs a lot and you've got a lot of it on there
U probably would have done the flairs in the other direction so your heel has something to grip to
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I hope you make that floor plate detachable, or else it will become dirt nest overtime
was the aluminum annealed?
Instead of “bending” it to get the height you want, why not just weld plates to create the bends? Hope that makes sense
Should’ve ran the brake lines inside the windshield wipers.
Ahh that’s a good idea but I didn’t want all of the elements working on them
Bedliner the floor plates?!
When it comes to aluminum. I like it raw
Maybe I can do steal ones and then bed liner them. That’s an idea!
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1000% best intro ever 😂😂 totally how I feel about 2020 lmaoo oh no covid week later protest and nothin about covid 😂😂
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Should of applied some heat while bending the aluminum..
I'm not a fan of dimple dies for the floorboard. Too easy for dirt and debris to get down in there, especially since you plan to daily drive it. Plus I'm not sure aluminum is the best material to use on a floorboard as the repeated getting in and out will probably weaken the material. Just my opinion though take it as you will.
Is there gonna b carpet?
Yes
mc lovin it
Shouldn't you double flare the brake lines.
They are double flair. That’s what the button is for that I’m putting in the line. DIN flair
@@BodeVision It doesn't look like one in the vid. From what I understand from automotive class it's a two step process. 1st you flare it and then you use another dye to fold it over onto itself thus double flare. Good call on replacing the master cylinder.
What if u drop something in the holes
It’ll be easy to remove for cleaning
Oh
Crazy amount of work, why do it?
When you have the ability to something like this, you do it. It's technical, but also artistic. He is making what he wants because he enjoys it. Also why I watch. I don't want to speak for him though. Just my opinion Edit- It's also educational. He explains what he does and isn't afraid to make mistakes. You learn.
wait is the clutch pedal out or is this gonna be auto i swear you said manual maybe im hearing things i guess
Clutch pedal is out of the car right now
This thing is gonna haul arse when finished be interested to find out what it weighs all up. Power to weight ratio better than some high priced shit.
the only thing that that unibody needed was maybe a set of subframe connectors and that's it you could have put a four-point roll cage in it and subprime connectors bolted your diff on and then just fine instead man you added a lot of weight to that car a lot unnecessarily
What if a ufo abduction stops the progress? 🛸
I’m sorry I don’t have anything to contribute to the build :(
Hole punching fool..... lol