U.S Weapons Smuggled Out of Afghanistan
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- A new report outlined $7 billion dollars worth of US Military equipment was abandoned in Afghanistan but where is it going? Apparently it's flowing into India and Pakistan.
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Thanks for watching guys, let me know what you think of the all the equipment left in Afghanistan spilling over to India and Pakistan. Did I miss an important aspect? Do you agree with my thoughts?
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SIR KASHMIRIS ARE FREEDOM FIGHTERS NOT TERRORISTS AND THERE FREEDOM FIGHTING MOVEMENT WAS STARTED IN 1930! THANKS
A lot of those NVGs were given directly to the ANA. I can honestly say that I personally trained Taliban on the use of 7 Deltas; As the primary trainer for the first NVG equipped Kandak (Battalion, 1-9 Kandak IIRC?) in the ANA, I was the NCO showing them how they worked and teaching very basic tactics. Their joes didn't get 'em, just the senior NCO's and all the Officers.
About a quarter of them immediately defected to the Taliban when the unit left for Lashkar Gah, with their fancy new equipment and training in hand. Fewer than expected, actually. No lasers though, just NODS.
*edit: to clarify, I was highlighting that half the stuff we gave to the ANA was already going to the Taliban while we were still there, and the absurdity of training the guys during the day who were going to shoot at you that night.
Congrats?
@@michaelwilliams9574 Hell no, just highlighting how fucked the whole thing was from day one. Half the equipment we gave to the ANA was already going to the Taliban because half the ANA were IN the Taliban.
@@icecoldcrickets1452 sucks man. Washington is the swamp.
@@icecoldcrickets1452 that's because we didn't learn from Vietnam
When I was volunteering with the Red Cross and other humanitarian groups the impression that I got was most of the Afghan people didn't desire Western-isms and the local government's officials were completely corrupt.
I'm a veteran United States Army from 1990 to 1994. The content of this video turns my stomach. Can't believe that we would leave all that equipment behind. The 16,000 night vision goggles blows my mind more than anything. Night vision goggles were treated as a sensitive item and you had to account they're aware abouts at all times along with your weapon. Now all of that gear can be reverse engineered and mass produced. We just gifted our enemies years and years of research to build these items for free
Don’t worry there is plenty of people in denial and are saying that they had just as much night vision before as they do now and would have not made a difference. They are arguing that all of the gear we left them did not make a significant difference because they already had the equipment in the first place.
@@joshuablair252 I have heard some of those same arguements. It is utterly ridiculous. The Pakistanis are a nuclear power because of stolen technology that filtered to them. It's just so sickening that the policies put in place by this administration is not policies. It's just a reversal of all things that the previous administration and administrations prior. It's disgusted how it is just white washed in the news. I think of all the state of the art equipment that is being used to make the damn Taliban a legitimate threat if not globally then at least regionally. It set us back at least 20 years. I believe however that future generations will be feeling the affects of this. Look at what I ran has done with the plane load of cash they received from us.
And the mess created for Indians.......I think bidens stupidity destabilized a whole region
Night vision goggles aren't hard to get these days. Things have changed since the 90s. You can buy Gen III night vision goggles such as the PVS-15 as a civilian. There are export restrictions, but that's never going to prevent them from ending up in China.
@@phizc then why isn't other countries owning the night
"They honestly look better equipped than the Russian Army now"
That is such a hard true stab at Russia, and it made me laugh.
good job arming them .laugh at your failure
Even when dissing the US, Russia will always take heat. No matter what.
Probably China too.
When their new rifles are much more budget version than the "military grade" M4's and spend half the money saved in upgrading their old rifles FOR THE THIRD TIME, you know it's bad...
NYET RIFLE IS FINE
Yeah...
They actually got NVD's...
What's also crazy is that this doesn't include the countless European made weapons such as AK variants, PKMs, rpg and etc that were given to the national police and special police forces. As well as the huge surplus of Russian made weapons during the soviet war. Taliban have practically a monopoly on all the weapons.
It sounds like a lot. But US civilians have 100× that amount.
@@tommygun5038 yes and ? We aren’t terrorists, and we don’t intend on using these guns against USA or against villagers in Iraq … these terrorists (regardless of if you see them as such) will be using them for killing , we Americans use them at the range and on Instagram . Get real kiddo .
@@pandahsykes602 ....That's not the point i was making. Anything that requires maintenance in that part of the world will be useless in a decade. Getting (real) would require a total war on their 10th century feudal culture.
@@tommygun5038 US civs wont do shit with it they never would
@@thelordofnuggets629 I'm your huckleberry.
I'm just sick at how this was conducted. And the fact that we stayed there so many years. For what?
@@MorriRay Afghanistan has moved from one war to the next since the Soviet invasion during the 70s, peoples will to fight has long since been broken.
It’s why I was against going there in the first place (which I took a lot of shit for at the time, by conservatives). Unless we were willing to establish a permanent presence, there was no point in doing it. No one is gonna help you out when they know you’ll be leaving in 5-10 years & the taliban will bash your door down & kill your the second the US pulls out.
Bush was a fool to send troops to two separate middle eastern countries at the same time.
@@MorriRay Problem was the USA tried to build a western democracy like country in a region of the world where tribal ruling and high religious practice and control of daily life was still a common factor. It was a poor move to try and make Afghanistan like a western country, would have been better just empowering one of the tribes and using the to dominate the nation.
@@RomanHistoryFan476AD Afghanistan should have been partitioned into 5 or 6 different countries. As a Canadian of Afghan descent I can tell you outright that every ethnic group in that country hates each other with a passion, any concept of a united Afghanistan died with the monarchy during the mid-twentieth century.
We should’ve left equipment and bases over there, but we should have very slowly moved out of the region and been replaced by UN soldiers who are supposed to police this kind of shit
The decision to continue to arm and train Afghan soldiers was doomed from the start. Anyone who was deployed and had to train those folks know EXACTLY how untrainable they are. Literally NO discipline in the entire military structure in Afghan. People thought of it all as a joke either because they joined the military as an easy ticket out of their village or they are legit mentally ill. The Afghan military didn't have any qualms against taking people who are VERY CLEARLY UNFIT for the military. You'd have a few people who actually cared and took it all seriously but those people usually ended up dying due to the carelessness of their idiot battle buddies.
cant really expect centuries to be cleared up in a few decades besides our oil barons and weapons firms got what they wanted.
We went guns blazing into a place we didn’t understand. Al-Quaeda had to pay for 9/11, but there were other ways to do that than what we did.
not trying to be rude but is mental illness a big issue there?
@@peter5149 well tbh it wasnt the method that was wrong. It was the duration. America invaded afghanistan freed it of taliban control and then proceeded to do the same mistake the soviets did. To undermine the local tribe control which forced them to become taliban. If america wouldve just sticked to the cities and strengthened the afghan army and left after Osama everything wouldve been fine
@@nicholasbrown5013 well, it isn't mainly mental illness, more just a fact that these are people who live in rural areas. As such, they don't get good education in these areas, and thus they suffer in jobs such as the military, which requires discipline.
The first country that immediately recognized the Taliban as legal government was - China. The second country that did the same was China's old ally - Pakistan. At the same time, both China and Pakistan have border disputes with India, so it makes sense that this is now happening, with India being targeted...
Oh, BTW it's not only India that China has border disputes with... They have border disputes (and clashes) with the total of 17 (SEVENTEEN!!!) countries... A good neighbor, right?
Half of those so called disputes are made up by Indian media.
China has interest in the mineral wealth of Afghanistan
Given China's business practices and the culture of Afghanistan there is going to be trouble
No one has legally recognized the Taliban government
China only has land disputes with India and Bhutan, and Bhutan is controlled by India.I emphasize the land dispute land, not the sea.
As an Indian citizen it's a big threat for us but we will handle it.
I'm sorry our leader fucked you over
@Lustig
Why should we handle San Francisco?
I know leaving some stuff behind couldn't be helped when trying to withdraw and take as few human losses as possible. But the sheer amount left behind is staggering.
The losses should have been ZERO. Instead we lost 13.
Well, it was a 20 year conflict.
Probably left on purpose
Chris did explain the reasoning as to why stuff was left and it makes sense. We had to leave equipment for the Afghan army, not knowing that they would just give up instantly.
@@huwhitecavebeast1972 Over the next year after Japan surrendered over 1,100 US soldiers died, the military kept that Under Wraps To make sure that any more violence between US troops and the Japanese population didn't escalate. World War II was over even if the fighting had not completely stopped.
This is disgraceful. My impression is that much of this had belonged to the now defunct Afghan Army. This will be just a part of the price we pay for going to war for 20 years in Afghanistan. All we needed was the special forces to begin with to go kill Al Qaeda yet we put boots on the ground and mistakenly took it's upon ourselves to try nation building in a place that did not want or know how to be a nation. This place is filled with a fractious multitude of tribes in an inhospitable land with no means to connect themselves and apparently no desire to do so. It also seems are intelligence apparatus involved in planning doesn't look into the history of this God awful place. Just like so many other places we have become involved in where we do not understand the dynamics of the people's we fight against and for. What a collosal waste in every respect. It's maddening. It makes me wish we had given every single bit of this military hardware to the Ukrainians. God knows where it's going to end up no matter where we give it. If we're not the ones using it we have lost control of it.
Bingo.
american arrogance and exceptionalism on display for 20 years sadly
Thank Joe Biden
@@yeoshenghong4802 You do know that it was Trump that negotiated the withdrawal and set the timeframe right?
actually the modern disunity of afghanistan was mostly kicked off during thesoviet occupation and the US- and saudi-supported jihadist insurgency against them. and I'm pretty sure that until a while before that (some military coup activity and a transition to some sort of republic), afghanistan was a pretty stable kingdom for like 2-300 years. poor as hell, but no civil war. afghanistan is what it is today because it is a casualty of the cold war, and tgen of the war on terror, so it's two responsibility points to the US and one to the soviet union. though it is worth pointing out that the soviet-afghan war killed waaaaaaaay more people than the NATO invasion and occupation, that was a really horrible war.
Same thing happened after Vietnam. Every two-bit terrorist or revolutionary got a slightly used M-16 and other goodies. Small bright side: With the rough handling such people give to equipment and without ready spare parts and maintenance the gear craps out in fairly short order, although it can cause a lot of trouble before that happens.
There is a big difference between leaving rifles and leaving NVG and drones.
@@huwhitecavebeast1972 yeah, true. It’s not a good thing no matter how you look at it
I don’t many m-16s in nam were slightly used lol. But I see what your saying
Guns are amazingly resilient it’s amazing how long guns can last. A few cheap springs and a home made extractor can keep em shooting for many decades. I’ve got a Romanian ak probability had 60k rds through it and it’s worn silver but shoots fine and reliable. If u look at M16s that were used over seas u see the same thing up and running on original barrels for almost 50 yrs now.
What a shitty comment. Last time I checked, the “terrorist” as you say were only defending their country. As with every war since Vietnam has been for other countries. Call them terrorists all you want, they are fighters for their homes. And if you so much as think of using 9/11 as the excuse, firstly, don’t insult the memories of those we lost, secondly, it was Saudi Arabia who which we should have invaded and bombed to kingdom come. What was the number again? Something like 17 of 19 of the high jackers came from Saudi? And we invaded Iraq? Alfganistan? Pakistan? Yemen? And Saudi is our top ally? You can fuck off with your comment.
I am glad you made this video. I hope people realize why this happened. The defense industry is more than happy to replace everything with new equipment. With these corporation now running Washington, any excuse to buy new equipment is welcome. What happens to the old stuff doesn't really matter. Its all about the money. I fear the entire Afghan war was an exercise in defense spending. I'm not so sure that Vietnam wasn't as well. This is no slur against the men and women that served in these conflicts. I'm a Vet, and like then I did what I was told and trained to do. They should be proud of their service.
The problem is the people calling the shots.
I recently did a study on the history of Afghanistan. Anyone who takes the time to learn it, and I'm sure our government did, would quickly realize that there was zero chance we would make any real difference there. Strangely I found the history of Vietnam much the same. These are two places that one empire after another have tried to take and they ALL failed. So that begs the question why did we poured billions of dollars ( and American lives ) into these hopeless wars. Who was to benefit from these lost causes? The answer is the same for both wars.
My answer? Get the money out of politics. It makes me sick to think that so many good Americans have died so that someone could make a buck. America, get the money out of it and take back control of your country. Let's fight for right and wrong, not a profit margin.
Your a rare one and I'm not even American. Most these idoits don't see it, still calling them our “enemies” like bots. Some rich old corrupt politicians decided these guys are the enemy so that shouldn't mean u have to be blind follower.
I lost a brother, 1st. Lt. Trevarius R. Bowman, in Afghanistan. We went through BCT together. There are no words to describe how pissed I am at the incompetence of American leaders. You've been failing the People. America needs to unite in peace. Step down so we can have it🙏
I looked Bowman up, he looks like a good guy. I'm sorry for your loss. You're not alone in your anger and disappointment. We need more people like him in the world, and if by our leadership's incompetence they're sacrificed for nothing - they absolutely should step down
This won't be of any comfort to you, but, a I posted on other forums, the US had the exact same problem with the Apache tribes in the 1800s, and the only way to get them off the war path was through deceit and colonization. They were desert warriors just like the Taliban, but the US strategy didn't seem to cut off the Taliban's arm supplies coming from former Russian satellite states. So, in a sense the US was at war with Putin. And I think ultimately that's why the effort failed.
@john dowe notsees 💀
I have to say a political thing. Obama announced that US policy was that the US would withdraw forces at some point in the not too distant future. Trump foolishly carried the ball and negotiated the agreement with the Taliban, against the advice of his generals. Finally, Biden completed the job with a debacle that it seems only America could possibly achieve in scope and breadth.
The entire withdrawal project told the Taliban that they could wait out the US, and once the US was gone, there would be no one to stop them so there was no reason to put down their weapons and get with the new, modern Afghanistan. The Afghan people generally got the message, too, so it's no wonder they accepted the Taliban. Resistance would truly be futile, and the writing was on the wall.
The American people have been led by the worst, appalling presidents over the last 20 or so years. They've negotiated or just completely abandoned the sacrifices and achievements that the country paid, all for the fleeting political goal of saying they ended a war that had essentially been won, which was the case for both Iraq and Afghanistan. Afghanistan, of course, had become a low intensity conflict with no US casualties for almost 2 years before Biden pulled the plug, to the dismay of America's allies. An absolute catastrophe and yet another American tragedy.
@john dowe why not? were already have a failing educational system just from this post alone......notsees......what are you, 8?
It's not US military equipment, it's afghan army stuff. Just more proof they didn't deserve our support.
That's the same thing.
You were an occupier who suppressed the local population for 20 years with nothing to show for it. The regular Afghan army was full of drug addicts and other bums, cause thats the kind of people who are willing to play soldier for an invader. This is a lesson for every big power to avoid such useless forever wars
@@meisterproper8304 Well, now the Taliban are in charge again. I leave to the reader to decide if that's a better situation, for the Afghan people, their neighbors, and the world at large.
We should have never been providing them with these large quantities of equipment if the ANA was so crap to begin with. But that's the U.S. govt for you, can get nothing done but waste money.
Us not destroy advance weapon us give advance weapon to Taliban.
An excellent & well researched video!! KUDOS on your efforts, Brother🇺🇸
a low rank lost a magazine : THAT IS NOT TOLERABLE. SERIOUS PUNISHMENT!
General left billions of weapons to terrorist : hehe
Police that bras!
One push-up for the generals to complete for every scrap of equipment that was left over there
The general did not make the decision. Your comment is pretty ignorant.
The weapons and equipment weren't left to terrorist. They were left to the Afghanistan army which went belly up as soon as American forces left the country
Besides, losing a magazine would only result in a small statement of charges. Or it could easily be covered in a report of survey
@@michaelwilliams9574 go away
I like how Cappy puts in our face the debacle and sub-par decision making while not even saying once those words.
The debacle is not the lost equipment but that we didnt get a viable nation that wanted to defend its people. Back in 2002 we should have had Pakistans full co operation to protect the future govt of Afghanistan.
Clearly hes trying to avoid being political
@@phraker5709 To me that's a good thing. When facts become political they start to cease being facts and become fodder for propaganda. Something in America that is increasingly becoming a problem.
@@2157AF feels like Afghanistan was mismanaged from day 1 - until the end. Blaming Biden for the change of orders, but really... should we have stayed for a country that couldn't defend their selves? I just now realized I was 14 when Afghanistan started, ended when I was 34. Just insane.
@@2157AF Even though Pakistan is clearly in favor of the terrorism.
Honestly this whole situation was disgraceful, the war was alright for a few years but as I’ve heard from you, the locals couldn’t care less for who was in charge and cared more about getting high, the US should of realized that, made it their public statement and fucked off
yep , iwould have send only strat bombers to level everything
@@orkhepaj well I won’t pretend to say that would not of fixed anything, cause it would of, but the US relies too much on foreign resources to take such a massive PR hit like that. There honestly was no good answer to this, if the US didn’t go in then they would of looked weak to the world, and if they did (as they did) we all know what happened. All in all the best case was if they used a world wide PR campaign to discredit the local population and make them out as nothing but crack heads the whole population and then leave because of it.
@@orkhepaj You lot are savages. Thank god my country has the nukes to keep you animals civilised.
That's the excuse they want you to believe, truth is the US put way more effort in training and equipping the Talibans than they did with the Afgan army.
AA was also basically “taught” to fight with the wrong combat doctrine which relied on US air superiority (that ultimately went completely offline) as it's spine for operation and high tech superiority (for which they didn't receive the equipment till the last two weeks of the war, ffs it wasn't even “recieved” is was “left” after mass dissertation).
@@peterdenov4898 true enough, but what I said still rings true, the US should of just came in, whooped ass as they did, get the bad guys, then leave. But then again what was even the point of starting the war in the first place, besides revenge.
"Disorganized withdrawal"--understatement of the decade.
I can understand leaving behind heavier equipment - but 6,300 sniper rifles? Are there even that many snipers in the Army? And all the other small arms - 350,000+ rifles, 64,000+ machine guns and 18 million rounds of ammo??? Seriously this smells like we did a deal and they were left on purpose.
Of course they made a deal. Trump negociated it and Biden signed it.
For real
All of that was suppose to go to the ANA.
But we never made a effort of training the afghan military to not immediately surrender and give all their gear to the tablian.
Plus trump releasing prisoner or wars, as well as Biden sending the military back, yeah no one in the US government didn't precieve the disaster that was coming to them.
This was all stuff that was meant for the new Afghani army that just never really crystallized. In the end there was no way to "unpack" all of that material.
For your first question: Your not going to make only 1 rifle per soldier. Thats dumb on a logical standpoint. You always want a surplus.
People think the United States left a lot in Afghanistan.. wait till they hear what we left in Vietnam.
Seriously. People think this is all Biden's fault and blah, blah, blah.
In the end, the bean counters at the Pentagon pull out a calculator and tally up the cost of leaving junk behind vs. hauling it back to the US for scrap.
lots of m16, huey helicopters, chinhooks, you name it.
at least Vietnamese aren't producing the outline for global terrorism by selling the equipment gaining leverage and power.
All because public opinion was low not one foot of land was lost and the NVA was very close to losing said NVA Generals shit more Russian troops will die in Ukraine then US Soldiers in Vietnam all in half-1 year vs 10 years
@@TheSilentpigs100 Well yeah, the Vietnamese had much bigger goals in mind; Global Communism.
Apparently, the US Government has never read "The Art Of War" by Sun Tzu.
This, right here, and I'm speaking about what Chappie said about the vehicles and the Taliban control of the country, is why none of the Afghan villages in the Mountains where most of Afghanistan population actually lives wanted to support the US building roads. Road construction was a major "project" of the International Effort. One of our largest failures in Afghanistan that lead to all others was a failure to connect the government in Kabul to the people they sought to govern. Those people didn't want to be connected. Number one they saw that government as ineffectual and corrupt, and despite all the best efforts it was. Number two there is the enviable Taliban takeover and if those roads had been built the Taliban, as he said would control more than ever before. This situation would be even worse had those roads ever been constructed. It's hard to pay attention to much else when you see they have up Armored Humvees but they also got a fleet of fairly low milage highly mobile Ford Ranger Pickups that we gave the ANA. Here is an even bigger question. Hezbollah in Lebanon now has up Armored Humvees and All sorts of US hardware including a variety of US Armored vehicles. They do have a multi billion dollar budget to work with but where did they get that hardware? They had it long before the US pull out in Afghanistan?
Hezbollah got a lot of hardware from the days of fighting the Islamic State. Remember when Iraq and Syria were fighting Islamic State (which in turn had a lot of captured US equipment, which got captured again by forces they were fighting)? Ideologically they're not too far from Iranian sentiment, so if Hezbollah (or similar groups) are willing to fight your common enemy, it makes sense to provide them hardware you have, which so happens to be US hardware. There were videos of Hezbollah (or similar groups, can't remember exactly) using M1(A1?) Abrams tanks to fight Islamic State.
Makes sense that they would keep some to themselves afterwards.
support from villages to build roads seems irrelevant when they're not actively shooting workers.
@@genericscout5408 Not at all when your fighting a Counterinsurgency. Not sure if you went to Afghanistan or not but unlike Iraq that simply had roads that were obstructed and destroyed( as well as other infrastructure) Afghanistan never had any. It's as splintered as it is because it had almost 0 infrastructure of any kind. It has a population of 35 million roughly 4.4 million in Kabul 500,000 in Khandahar, 500,000.in Mazar e Shariff, 600,000 way out west in Herat next to the Iranian Border. That's 5.6 million. The rest about 30 million are spread out all over the place in little mountain villages all over the place. A government, in order to govern needs to be connected to the people it seeks to govern..Imagine if you lived in say New York or LA and you needed the fire dept or police or the power company to, I don't know save your life and the largest mountains on planet earth are between them and you and there are no roads to get there and no one had aircraft either. This means your on your own. Add to that in Afghanistans case that because they don't really like Americans or anyone else telling them what to do or how to live they don't want a road to their front door. The Taliban outsmarted us by using an age old and what should have been a very obvious strategy. We as Westerners tend to think of government and everything else on our terms instead of viewing it how they know it. Islamic governments like Saddam, and Bashar Al Assad and Hosni Mubarek are modeled on the Nazi 3rd Reich they are modeled after European government to better interface with Europeans and the rest of the World they are thus wholly secular in nature, Afghanistan's Taliban is Islamist in nature. Not as insane as Al Qaeda or ISIS but Islamist none the less Iran is a bit of a hybrid. It has a Western Style government much like Iraq and for the same reasons but it's the Shite Islamists that run everything. Islamic governments going all the way back to the Ottomans tend to be absentee rulers they only Crack the whip when Someone makes trouble as long as your good Muslims Islam is aloud to govern itself. The Taliban while pretty horrific by Western and even Eastern standards isn't and wasn't horrible in the sense that we tend to think. They were not authorities like The Baathists were. They issued a list of rules appointed a government and small militia to govern each province and let it all run itself. This meant as long as you were obedient to the rules and kept the local militia happy you were left alone. The Pashtun that make up most of the country and most of the Taliban in addition to Islam and actually superseding it follow the Pashtunawali Tribal code. Number one rule one Pashtun male does not order or tell another Pashtun Male what to do so as long as he observing them rules he's left alone. These villagers understand that if The Taliban has a road to the front door they will be encouraged to take a much more direct role as they are now trying to do. They beat us by fading into the backround and blending into the general population. We chased out the heads of Al Qaeda and people like Mullah Omar and the Taliban government in Kabul but as we now know the Taliban had all along secretly and quietly remained in place in the shadows and very few people gave them up. The whole of our operations there were for a very long time being subverted to fill the Talibans pockets with US Dollars and the very sane US Equipment we left behind its the classic piss of the US so the country can get a Makeover. All of that being said the big failure of the US is that successful Counterinsurgency has to secure local support to succeed. To do that you have to win hearts and minds by providing the locals what they value and what the Taliban isn't or can't provide. In this case the Taliban remained secretly in power the whole time and eventually emerged victorious simply because we were failing to give the people what THEY valued instead we treated then like children attempting to impart our values and that is the one thing in that part of the world that never works. Wether European Style Democracy or the Federalist Republicanism of the US it can't be imposed the people as a whole have to come to it on their own organically or it will never work. The Taliban, bad as they may be understood what the people valued in ways we never could because they are Afghans and we arent.
Even if the equipment were handed over to the Afghan army, much of it would end up being stolen. Corruption, poor pay, and poor morale render the Afghan army useless.
I’m getting a little déjà vu with Iraq.
@@user-ug5xr2gb6j Iraq is friendly but is influence by Iran, but when push comes to shove it would side with the US.
@@user-ug5xr2gb6j The whole war on terror is a joke. Afghanistan is back in Taliban hands after 20 years. Iraq is a breeding ground for terrorists and is a borderline failed state without Saddam to maintain order. Invading Saudi Arabia and the cutting off the donations going towards exporting Islamic fundamentalism makes far more sense.
@@MrAnonymousRandom or we could quit giving them a reason to want to blow us up, and worry about our domestic issues that are spiraling out of control, lol. We’re good at exacerbating a problem. We declared war on poverty, drugs and terror and there’s only been more of it since. Why solve the problem when fixing it just enough to maintain it keeps a steady cash flow.
@@enriqueperezarce5485 And what do you exactly mean by Iraq? All the different factions have their own loyalties. The only faction I can think of that would support the US is the Kurds and that's if they continue to tolerate the American track record of stabbing them in the back. The Sunni Muslims and Saddam's old guard which lost their privileged status went on to cause trouble, including founding ISIS. The Shiites are having their own internal power struggle - Iran influenced factions vs factions led by local clerics.
As a Afghan Vet from 09, I can say it looks strange seeing the Taliban with modern western Arms and not crappy jiggeled up Ak's
A year or so and they'll be back to AK's. There's a reason the AK is the weapon of choice.
They will never be able to maintain modern equipment. All that equipment will be useless in a decade. Even faster when they inevitably fall back into civil war.
@@dorkangel1076 Ak is all they have spare parts for.
@@hamie7624 lol, dont worry, US will "lost" more equiptment to them somehow like it already happened many times. In order for military industrial complex to get richer, ther must be more chaos. Btw 70% of military aid to Ukraine are lost somehow and to somewhere.
We're such an embarrassment of a country at this point.
@@AL-lh2ht Rome was the most powerful nation in antiquity and they still failed in the most pathetic, easily avoidable way.
I have felt for some time that all of that was left behind on purpose. I guess now we know it more than likely was.
The British before they left Somalia they left so much guns that almost 70% of the Somali clan then it all started fighting inland witch is what they want
This is so hard to hear and I can’t imagine how hard it is for the military vets who fought in these regions to hear this. It’s sickening.
There’s so much intelligent individuals in America yet the ones calling the shots for America are a bunch fools.
Yes, one of those people thought that Guam would tip over when they added more Marines and equipment to the island. 🤣
It's all Donald Trump's fault. If Biden was in the office earlier this would have not happened. He left a mess for Joe Biden.
It's freaking soul rending.
Of those $7 billion in losses, how much of that $7 billion was already paid out? It's the taxpayer that foots the bill, the "loss" isn't even that - just a wealth transfer
Biden should have his house searched by the FBI over giving weapons to terrorists in violation of state law. Oh shoot. Never mind. The FBI is run by the DNC.
I can say that most of the Humvees in Helmand Province were in really bad shape before we left. I was shocked that hafe the ones I looked at were still operating.
Then it explains why Taliban won. Because their enemy only had crappy equipments.
@@joelau2383 while the taliban literally uses guns from ww1 💀
why did you live?
coward.
@@juntingiee2602 they dont. They used ex soviet weapons leftover after the russians left. They buy counterfiered m4A1s and mp5s made in pakistan. They also have a shit ton of weapons leftover from the time americans funded them to fight the russians.So yes they dont use outdated weapons.
@@joelau2383 the Afghanistan army that were fighting had a up hill battle. The vehicle maintenance was only 1 part. Its sad the one that believed in what we were selling, wanted us to hold there hands forever.
Wonder which country has been providing technical and political support to the taliban while simultaneously has a grudge against India...
To be fair, Pakistans left hand doesn't know what the right does. The are many colliding interests in government, army and secret service. This results in Pakistan aiding groups that actively terrorise their own population
Russia doesn't have a grudge against India. India is its biggest arse-kisser.
Pakistan, and probably some help from Russia who doesn't care who wins so long as they can sell more weapons to both.
Possibly China
@@flawless_Cowboy Pakistan is the puppet, China is the master.
It took years to get all that stuff there, and in theory the Afghan Army would utilize it when we left, but the pace at which they folded (Because they saw their leaders run for the hills) was staggeringly fast.
I would have thought the night vision goggles you would want to keep , but then again if you take them from the Afghan Army while they still might have a use for them - it sends a bad message. But i believe there are newer goggles that will make those old ones obsolete.
A night goggle is a night google nevertheless just like how newer fire arms that are better than the ak-47 were made it did not stop the ak-47 from being effective.
"they can't reapair them"
Of course they can.
Most military equipment is designed the be repairable by a grunt.
Afghanistan is a big country and there are engineers with university degrees there and tens of thousands of car mechanics.
Also there is enough equipment that they can cannibalize veichles for decades for spares and a good workshop can make many of the spares needed.
People in the middle east can keep all sorts of trucks running for decades after their use by dates, humvees and mraps aren't that different.
Yeah I called bullshit on that. Even if they couldn't they could call China or Russia to help them out, who would be happy to oblige.
Wrong on the engineers, USA uni's were educating Afghani's in Women's Studies ;)
Yup
they just sent the broken parts to kyber pass. those guys can make anything
@@sumotony I don't understand what your point is
If I leave a gun in my house and it's not locked up and someone breaks into my house takes the gun and uses it to kill somebody I am criminally liable so this entire Administration should be tried for criminal negligence and they should all rot in prison this is so unacceptable
You are correct, sir.
Trump signed the surrender to the Taliban, including the withdrawal deadline. So you want to imprison both the previous administration and the current? The military and civilian government includes tends of thousands of employees, are you going to imprison them all?
@@texaswunderkind The Trump administration negotiated a 20 point disengagement agreement. The current administration ignored the agreement, and just pulled out without a plan.
It was honestly surprising how much equipment was left behind in Afghanistan
It was more surprising how many Americans were left to die.
Not really. Pretty much every conflict ends with crap being left behind. Its just being overblown for political reasons.
And good luck to the Afghans in maintaining that shit. US equipment is not like Soviet era stuff.
Well it was a quick withdrawal due to the ANA folding faster then a Beach chair and the lack of fortifications of bases and other key places that Biden ignored
Absolutely! Surrender deal was signed February 2020. Seems like the equipment could have been removed in the time before the Taliban overran the place.
Without spare parts, trained personnel, and an organized infrastructure, It is doubtful that the Taliban could put their arsenal of American-made military gear to good use.
Great nuanced view/presentation of a complex situation.
Always "The graveyard of empires". We had no business trying to bring a democracy to a land that has never known it. We should have pursued Al-Queda , whipped on Taliban till they ran, hand it over to some warlord who liked us (money) and said we will be back if you screw up again and left.
We weren't trying to bring democracy, we are not even a democracy. We are a constitutional republic.
Not the graveyard of empires. I agree with the rest of your comment, tho.
Afghanistan is not a graveyard of empires, it's just a graveyard.
@@huwhitecavebeast1972 they have no idea what that means either. There culture was established about 2000 years ago. It's not going to change ever
@@danwilliams5867 the middle east has influenced us more than we have influenced them. christianity was forced on us, by them. along with it shortly after most northwest euros year zero onwards start to take on bits of arabian peninsula dna, the average northwest european is about 10% arabian peninsula about 3-8% in scandinavia and up to 30% in southeast germany. They might have failed in their conquest of spain as a whole but they will win this battle of influnce over us and will be the last standing at the end of the millenia
China's gonna have a lot of brand new shit once they've reverse engineered all of that tech.
They probably have already stolen the tech from the U.S military industrial complex.
The Afghan forces were trained by the Americans using the U.S. military model based on highly technical special reconnaissance units, helicopters and airstrikes. We lost our superiority to the Taliban when our air support dried up and our ammunition ran out. Contractors maintained our bombers and our attack and transport aircraft throughout the war. By July, most of the 17,000 support contractors had left. A technical issue now meant that aircraft - a Black Hawk helicopter, a C-130 transport, a surveillance drone - would be grounded.
The contractors also took proprietary software and weapons systems with them. They physically removed our helicopter missile-defense system. Access to the software that we relied on to track our vehicles, weapons and personnel also disappeared. Real-time intelligence on targets went out the window, too." Even worse the have Afghan army was totally reliant helicopters to resupply them in the various cities why?. Because after the April 2020 Taliban deal and the massive drop in airstrikes the US recommended strategy to Afghan security forces was to abandon the rural areas and concentrate their forces on Urban areas. Essentially giving the Taliban freedom of movement throught the country unmolested. Within months the Taliban had gained control of highways to such a degree they set up outposts to tax truck drivers. You remember when NATO kept saying Russia was really bad at logistics at the start the war. When NATO decided to cede control of the main supply routes throughtout Afghanistan basically without a fight. With in control that means no road resupply between the urban centers the Afghan security forces had told to focus on. Resupply had to be by helicopters that the Afghans we never taught how to maintain because NATO thought it made more sense to pay private contractors insane amounts of money to do instead. So when the maintenance contractors left in April there was no way to do even routine maintenance minor technical issues could ground aircraft. And since the contractors literally stripped out the aircraft and cut off access to certain software happened a lot. If you train an army to fight with with advantages enjoyed by NATO style and the overnight take away those advantages and given the enemy a full year of uncontested freedom of maneuver to shape the battlefield what the f do thing is going to happen.
NATO didn't fight a 20 year campaign in Afghanistan it fought ten two year campaigns.
Interesting!
all of that but the taliban had less than the Afghan army. look what happened.
If the Taliban could pull it off then the Aghan also could.
Lets be honest, the men love the Taliban.
@@looseygoosey1349 The ANA had serious problem with Ghost Soldiers. To the point that both the US and even the Afghans themselves weren't even sure if the numbers they had on paper was even close to its true number.
@@looseygoosey1349 Talibans waren't taught to rely on permanent air domination and high tech superiority to fulfill their basic functions, they ware adapting precisely on how to overcome them while in unbearably worse continuous which created huge skill difference spike which in turn was just free invitation for victory once they all went offline.
You have peasants which ware taught only to create massive artificial rivers, lakes, and seas to slow down the Mongolian horde advancement and a near apocalyptic drought which effectively bridged all continents by land, what do you expect to happen next?
Question : WHY do Americans continue to increase the budget of the military industrial complex when they still FAIL at their missions from Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the other countless of foreign interventions?
The sheer incompetence is beyond delusional at this point.
Much of the equipment requires "specialized maintenance" 🤣
Dude have they never watched videos of how easily they fabricate something outta nothing? I was in Afghanistan and I can personally tell you that yes, perhaps they don't have all of the cool tools that we have but, they also don't need them. I've watched Afghan mechanics turn a broken down jingle truck with two flat tires into a viable moving vehicle using some wires, fabric, 1 spare tire from a small car like a Corolla, a leather belt, some tar, and some other shit I can't remember. They drove the damn thing 134 miles, up and down mountains with stopping only ONCE because it was overheating.
Don't tell me they're not ingenious and quick thinking.
"The moment you think your enemy is weak and stupid, is the moment your arrogant ass will get shot."
As I remember my time in Afghanistan is all the broken Russian equipment all over the place, the amount of spare parts flown in every week to sustain our small Swedish contingent were massive. Not even the US Army could sustain their equipment without the help from contractors outside of the army, the neighboring countries won’t like Afghanistan to be a heavily militarized country. The material left behind isn’t the latest and greatest and China, India and Pakistan already have that types of equipment, some sold to them by the US.
60% of it was sunscreen. skin cancer deluxe
Hur många soldater var där nere?
Lol US is not selling equipment to China
@@hawkmandude8059 and why is that relevant and important?
@@manyinterests1961 someone is butthurt, i just asked. You prefer me ask something philosophy instead?
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Pakistan: "The Taliban are selling US equiptment and weapons into Pakistan!"
Also Pakistan: *buys a crapton of US equiptment from the Taliban
Give Pakistan some money and they will launch jihad against Russia in Ukraine.
Most country in world have policy "live and let live" .whereas pakistan has policy of "I will suffer to make you suffer".
They say they will do reverse Engineering 🤣🤣.
Pakistan has a lot of sway in the taliban, many of the new taliban regime are paksitani, born and freely operated from Pakistan. Pakistan saw longterm America ain't gona keep afghnaistan
@@ineedpowers5151
They have nuclear scientists, engineers and many more upcomming, wouldn't say thag would be hard.
Wait pulling out of the middle east and leaving behind 7 billion dollars in MILITARY equipment would lead to the taliban extending their reach out of their own borders, and give them the capability to organize and fight like a real military? Who could have seen this coming!?!?!?!?!
They would have had guns anyway.
Set up the flank, we can spot them now. If we sold it to them sneak-deaky like, we go get our shit back and keep the money. Profit???
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 Night vision equipment would give them a marked edge vs other groups in Afghanistan.
This whould have been the case even without us intervention...
This began when the us built up the mujihadeen during the afghan soviet war.
@@DairyCat they already had a bunch of thermal/night vision equipment before the fall of the government (probably through contacts in the ISI and corrupt Afghani officers. They released a bunch of thermal vision footage showing them completely decimating army outposts full of oblivious soldiers.
Giving them that equipment doesn't make any F..KING SENSE.
Seeing this it’s understandable why recruitment is low. What a failure! So many good men died for nothing
Who wants to serve with Biden as commander in chief, he's one of the worst in US history
It’s a disgrace what’s happened to Afghanistan after we left. We abandoned everyone who helped us to the wolves.
We were there for 20 years dude
I really don't want to hear about how we abandoned anyone. Just look at Ukraine and how they held up against Russia. Just think of how all that equipment would have been better used in Ukrainian hands instead of the useless sand box of Afghanistan.
@@AL-lh2ht
That's complete nonsense, get a grip.
The ANA held out forever despite having huge problems, such as pro-American warlords with their brutality creating more insurgents than the army could ever take out.
The Dutch deposed Matiulah Khan, a psychopath and mass-murderer who was extremely hated and a walking Taliban recruitment poster. Want to know the first thing the US did after the Dutch mission from Uruzgan withdrew? Yeah, they re-instated M and instantly the number of insurgents tripled.
there was a report that 96% of Afghans with special visas to come here were left behind.
@@AL-lh2ht The ANA has over 45,000 KIA including police officers have been killed, and that’s only 2015-2019. You seriously think no Afghan has died for the freedom promised to them?
And that’s not even thinking about the terror the civilians undergo on a daily basis.
Lets all be honest. We all knew this was bound to happen sooner than later.
Yup. No way this was going to be avoided; we were there for 20 years.
Cmon! America got lots of stuff when the Nazis left Germany, how is this any different? Let em live. They need that equipment to feed their families.
@@CharliMorganMusic Easily avoided. by disabling the kit before leaving. Take the bolts, throw sand in engine oil and run till seizure. Burn stuff. It doesn't take much planning....... oh but there is the key word "planning"
@@andyf10 The vast majority of the materiel was property of the Afghan military, and they were still using it. This outcome was inevitable as of Feb 29, 2020 when the Doha agreement was signed between the USA and the Taliban in the absence of any Afghan government representation which didm't help the already pathetic legitimacy of that puppet kleptocracy. Perhaps Biden could have reversed it, but that would have only delayed the exact same outcome down the road, and would have hurt US credibilty in regards to agreements. So the only way YOUR approach works the USA says "give us back all your military equipment so we can leave". You see the problem yes? You are listening to anti-American propaganda.
@@mikeholme1388 Churchill fought and sank much of the French Fleet (his allies) to stop it getting into German hands. Maybe Biden could have shown the same backbone? I'd have had planes dropping bombs on all that material the day after leaving, rather than it getting into Talib hands in functioning order. An agreement with the Taliban isn't something I'd lose sleep over tearing up. But then, I wouldn't have made one in the first place.
This makes my stomach turn, I can’t watch this.
so goddamn embarrassing. the US military should've given ME this stuff. smh
All I wanted was one set of NOGs. Is that to much to ask?
I too, want 300,000 rifles. Because dual-weilding just isn't enough in this day.
Yeah the could have returned our tax dollars to us in that format.
do you know how cool having a humvee is imagine the girls you could pick up with it
@@schizoidfromsomewhere9341 they’d get out after the first 10 minutes
More embarrassing than the equipment left behind is the fact that no one has been held accountable for that cluster fuck of an exit.
Military warned govt of this possibility. But, Biden wanted to exit ASAP before 9/11 for domestic politics and created this mess. So, president himself is responsible. Now what, send Biden to jail?
You mean every president and cabinet member since W?
TB: The US did not abandon the equipment. It belonged to the Afghan army.
@@KB4QAA These people are not going to listen. They don't like that it was Afghan army weapons.
The withdrawal fucked the British and our other Allies who were still in country too.
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Remember pakistan, a US ally helped the talibans after **** left. A great ally indeed.
Bruh the taliban looks like they got better gear than some south east asian armed forces
Without spare parts, trained personnel, and an organized infrastructure, those Western military gear will fall apart and the Taliban will face the same kind of logistical nightmares encountered by ISIS in Iraq and Syria.
Exactly theyre more powerful than my country
At least they have maintenance.
@@christopherwang43922 years later and the talibans looks more organized and equipped than ever.
Task & Purpose needs to do a video on Russia’s Air Force performance. In my opinion it’s the biggest embarrassment of their invasion. Ukraine’s Air Force is basically a smaller, less advanced version of Russia’s. Ukraine still having a functioning Air Force over five months into the conflict is especially bad considering it took less than a month for the U.S. to gain air supremacy in Iraq in 2003. I would like to know if it’s “worse than you think”.
And you think Russia is using all of it's available Air force for just one war ?
@@jarveyjaguar4395 yes, they are. If they aren’t using everything they can (besides border patrol aircraft), then they must be trying to lose on purpose. Which is possible, but unlikely.
Problem is Russia has learned from their mistakes at the beginning of the war and is now doing a more conservative slow crawl across Ukraine. Ensuring that their positions are absolutely reinforced And that they have layers of domestic defense that can quickly crush resistance fighters at a moment's notice. They've increased their air defense systems that foolishly haven't been deployed In most of their occupied regions until now.
@@ThePilot3332 personally i don't think so. i think they still have yet to mobilize their full force. i think putin is simply being careful politically.
oh well. on the bright side they're learning the classic soviet way: through blood and materiel. at some point they'll start getting it.
@@ThePilot3332 yeah , no better strategy than throwing all your eggs in one basket .
They forgot, I'm sure it was left there by accident.
Has it already been a year? Too bad nothing's changed.
tell that to the indians who used to be alive, but are now dead, killed by the weapons the US left behind.
Nothing has changed, the U.S. government is still bungling at every turn and people are still suffering and dying because of it, with weak leaders with destructive motives we continue to seal devastating fates for thousands around the world for decades, even centuries to come.
Thanks America! We Indians really appreciate our strategic partners equipping enemy insurgents. Truly, America is the greatest peacekeeper in the world. USA! USA!
*20 years, 20,000 wounded, 2,500 deaths, and Tens of trillions of dollars ALL WASTED*
the contractors think differently
Rich people got even more fucking wealthy. They wouldn't call it a "waste."
only 2500 deaths?
why does that sound so low?
@@davidty2006 American deaths. Afghan deaths are far higher
The US spent 20 years and over a TRILLION $ to rebuild the Afghan government/military. If the Afghan military wasn't willing to fight for their country why should we?
I spent an entire extra week in FTX looking for a psq20 that was “lost” because it was a sensitive item… but we leave 20k of them to the talaban🤔
same, still on my wishlist. still to much of a broke, tired 9-5, american to buy one
To the Afghan military bro, we didnt just leave it laying in heaps in the desert. The afghan military and police, who refused to fight and cut and run or defected to the Taliban gave it to them. Come on man.
@@stanmoroncini8825 because anyone actually thought the Afghan military would fight and hold onto the equipment? Come on man.
@@flipeverything2734 so we take all our equipment and weapons back? And then what? You complain when they fail regardless and say we shouldnt have left them without weapons and equipment? Or we just keep fighting a forever war in afghanistan for another 20 years, maybe you and a future son die in it? all for what? A government and country that dont even care about existing, as was obviously shown? Come on bro.
where did ur comment go?? Come on bro.
And, during the 'Nam, the VC were commonly found to be equipped with WWII weapons that we'd given the Chinese. Really, this sort of thing is not new, or even shocking.
Weapons, drugs, slaves....all these have long been historically valuable goods that the winners trade to further their gains.
Heck the maxim is still being used despite being a weapon from the 1800's.
And the VC after the test offensive in 1968 we're a spent and defeated force. America left a south Vietnam that was capable of handling the VC remnants. What it wasn't capable of doing was holding back the Vietnamese armored and mechanized troops that together with north Vietnam infantry & air force, invaded years later. Why would they be ready when the peace treaty we signed with with both north and south Vietnam stated we would com back if the north ever actually invaded for real rather than through proxies like Vietcong. We wrote a check we weren't prepared to cash and so Vietnam was lost.
@@Davitofrito You're not seriously arguing that the United States could have won the Vietnam War had they just stuck around another ten years, are you? If you are, then you know jack shit about the history of Vietnam. They have been invaded and occupied by China, Japan, France, and the United States, and they are willing to think in terms of decades or even centuries to get the occupiers out. There was no scenario where the Americans were viewed as liberators. Just being there was the problem, not the solution.
Why on earth are they destroying a vehicle worth hundreds of thousands instead of shipping it back to the USA. Absolutely boggles the mind.
transport costs often are higher then the actual worth of certain vehicles and equipment after a certain run time.
It would literally cost more in transport and fuel to fly 1960's APCs back to the US. Also almost none of this is actually "US equipment". It's mostly US surplus equipment that was given to the previous Afghan government. Stuff that was destroyed was stuff that is hard to move, and hard to fix, like aircraft.
After WWII we dumped billions of dollars worth of equipment into the ocean because it was cheaper than bringing it back. (and environmentalism wasn't a thing)
Dude! Your videos are great!
Every time I remember how botched this retreat was from Afghanistan it makes me furious. The US government is such a bloated monster that doesn't care about how it spends money or how it effects people around the world or in its own country.
Wait until all the weapons being sent to ukraine start appearing all over the world 😏
@@Akompliss B×××.ockx!
@@giftedgift9418 lol kremlin gremlin detected, point and laugh guys. How's the Crimea?
*the biden administration
It's all Donald Trump's fault. If Biden was in office earlier this would have not happened. He left a mess for Joe Biden.
This is an important story which draws a lot of attention to the civilian masses who don't understand how the military works, but we have left arms and munitions in every nation we have fought in throughout time. We were in Afghanistan for twenty years, and I can testify most of this equipment is well worn, and still operable, but requires proper maintenance or disposal. The key term in this is "Last Generation." The equipment is not surplus, but a lot of the stuff the military leaves is last generation equipment and costs us more to bring back and leave on the books. The U.S. military is moving on to newer firearms and electronics. For example the "Super Tocano aircraft is being phased out of use by the USAF.
Saving some money in transportation and disposal of weapons will cost US strategically in future. Resulting in another $100 billion war.
old weapons that are still lethal a
now used on other nations and their citizens
SOF Super Tucanos are phased out because these 5 airplanes were bought to test them in combat and this tiny fleet is pretty much useless and unsustainable and not because they are old or outdated. Super Tucano even plays in a class of it’s own.
Don't they account for the technology theft? Even if we moved to better tech the enemies will still have very formidable firearms and other equipments.
It’s not so much about the US having the gear. You’re right, all that equipment can be easily replaced. It’s about not leaving it to our adversaries. We can easily make armored vehicles sure, but the Taliban? Not so much. Sure we can make M4s easy no problem. But now the Taliban has thousands more. These are weapons that will increase their effectiveness and lethality. Whether that’s against us or our Allies.
This is precisely one major reason why fewer Americans are enlisting in the armed forces- Armchair generals fighting politically correct wars on behalf of corporate greed.
As it turns out, leaving everything behind and withdrawing means you leave everything behind when you withdraw.
I can't tell what side you are on. That is a good thing. It means you are reporting, not pandering.
Keep it up. The first step to solving any problem is a brutally honest appraisal of what the problem is. No problem has ever been solved by first misrepresenting the nature of the problem. You seem to get that.
Rare these days.
He’s a soy boy
Thanks a lot for covering this .....no major media house is paying attention to this tremendous movement of arms and ammunition falling into completely wrong hands !! Taliban is basically collaborating with the ISI attaches and there is definite movement of literally anything other than missiles and Nukes...
The black market is so rampant that there have been clashes in the Pak Afghan border between Taliban and the Pak army regarding price negotiations.
@@AL-lh2ht What's changed is that Pakistani militants infiltrating into Kashmir now have access to top-tier small arms. Prior to this, the best they could manage was the Chinese Type-56, & leftovers from the Soviet 80s stock. India will have a hard time because of American stupidity. Kudos!
Same thing is going to happen in Ukraine once the fighting stops
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@@skyscraper5910 surely you don’t believe that the us funding militas in Ukraine is going to lead to a different outcome than Afghanistan. I’m not defending Russia just pointing out what might happen
@@BM-zm1jl What's going to happen in Russia once the fighting stops?
As an Indian I wanted to humbly remind our friends in DC that you shouldn't have placed your bet on a volatile and terror sponsoring state like Pakistan during the indo pak wars over the years, which inevitably pushed us towards the Russians. Y'all even supposed to militarily support China in the 1962 indo china war. Losing an important location like Pakistan occupied kashmir was a loss not only for India but also for the USA, as any distability in this region destabilize the safety of western nation territories in Indo pacific
You're absolutely right we should have never placed our bet on Pakistan. I've been saying that since 1988. I've always thought that India was the logical choice. That's why I was happy to see Trump try to build a closer relationship with India. For far too long we have been maintaining our close relationship with Europe. I don't see that as our future. We need to build close relationships with India, Vietnam, Indonesia, Brazil and South Africa. That's were the future is. Our eurocentric diplomacy is stupid. The current war there is proof of that.
It blows my mind that in the cold war India wasn't a US ally and that we took the Pakistani side. Absurd. These days, I hope India knows that we see you guys as an ally and a hope for a stable, rational ally in the region.
India and US has most things in common both secular democracy not like Islamic republic of Pakistan. 90 percent of Indians love US and is influenced by US culture Hollywood etc. It was our stupid and first prime minister of India Nehru that made US and India apart because he was an socialist fool who tried to impress stalin and Mao. He made our country poor by following socialism thanks to fall of soviet union India has moved to capitalism and is fasted growing economy within a decade we will be third biggest economy from 5th biggest economy right now. 🇮🇳❤️🇺🇸
I still find it insane the Soviet Union stalked the NATO combined fleet and stopped them from absolutely hammering India with America's endless airpower. You guys were super lucky the Russians actually gave a damn.
@@pilotmanpaul without soviet union india would have been thrown apart by China an Pakistan with US help
Over 400,000 Rifles and machine guns is insane
I was waiting to hear where those munitions would start to stir up trouble. I had no faith that the stuff we left behind was going to stay in Afghanistan long, considering the people who had it. Unfortunately, I don't think many in America will care that now India is being pushed into dealing with them, and it will have to be something related to Europe for the average American to even bat an eye at.
It's incredible just what chaos one demented man can cause. And still people are tolerating this crazy old fool.
At least it is getting discussed in an American RUclips channel.
However, we see the same thing getting repeated in Ukraine. Captured NLAWs and downed drones will be sent to China for reverse engineering..
how much would those had difference in ukraine? or other places? its worth lot of money and probably slow to make more, even if you order batch now
Exactly Americans don’t give shit about anyone unless it affects them or Europe
We have been dealing with Pakistan ISI And Army Insurgency for 75 years
9:50 and on, don’t worry the Chinese will ‘offer help’. Most of the equipment “the lowly shit-kickers can’t operate” are going to be sold to adversaries with ample profit.
And to think the Soviet Union did this exact same mistake as well, leaving huge caches of small arms in multiple areas around the world which have now become terrorist, rebel, and piracy hotspots.
Statistically, there's hardly a bullet fired in the world that wasn't made in the US or Russia.
This is old news the USA has been arming Afghanistan since 1979
Those weapons were given to the Afghan Army, but even after us being there for 20 years, they folded within hours of our departure. What could we have done? Ask for the equipment back before we left? The problems is that we grossly misjudged the Afghan administration, if we thought they would fold immediately after we left, we should not have given them all those weapons. Anyone that has been in the military knows how long it takes for the planning and execution of large deployments. Our redeployment out of Afghanistan began long before 2020, by the time those final months came around, our troop and equipment levels had already been diminished, troops had already pulled out of forward bases, and to reverse course would mean to bring more troops back to Afghanistan and re-occupy forward bases. Personally I feel that if we couldn't get the job done in 20 years, a few months or years more would not change anything. Eventually you have to cut your losses and get out.
Leaving a well defended air base in the middle of the night and relying on Kabul international airport to complete the withdrawal was asinine. The Taliban was staying away from the air base. It was the high ground and tough to attack. They could have used helicopters to go around the country to pickup the American civilians and Afghans who worked with us. The A-29 Super Tucanos stationed at the base could have provided the helicopters support. Fly everyone out from there. Then they could have loaded up all the equipment at the air base and left. Set up demo charges all over the place and blow up anything that couldn't be taken. But no the incompetent leadership of General Milley and the rest of the Joint Chiefs told the dementia patient occupying the White House that Kabul international airport was the smart play. No wonder nobody wants to enlist. Who wants to take orders for incompetent fools?
Do you expect the President and Joint Chiefs to micromanage every detail of a withdrawal from DC?
Okay, buddy.
The air base was in the middle of nowhere with a dangerous road up leading to it and a lot of the people due to be flying out were in Kabul. They can't just drive up the road to the airbase and you can't just land helicopters randomly in Afghanistan's largest city which holds over 10% of the it's entire population. Also worth noting that by the time the toddler in chief was dragged screaming out of the Whitehouse there were only around 2000 US soldiers left in Afghanistan to look after the active bases plus all the mothballed ones he'd closed.
@@dorkangel1076 Bagram Air Base wasn't out in the middle of nowhere it was 25 miles from Kabul. It was The high ground and well secured. It was the perfect location to conduct the withdrawal from unlike Kabul international airport which was in a city. We could have sent helicopters to go get our people and ferry them back to the air base to fly out. Landing a helicopter in a town or city is not impossible, I've done it many times. For 18 months the Taliban didn't kill one American. President Potato Head wanted to make a show of it by pushing the withdrawal back to the anniversary of 9/11 instead of keeping with the agreed schedule. Then he didn't start the withdrawal early enough to complete it on time. He threw out a damn good plan to carry it out because it was put together by the previous administration. They he was stupid enough to listen to General Milley who's bright idea was to use a civilian airport in the middle of Kabul. The administration has shown it's incompetence over and over again. This administration has shown it's inability to act in a timely manner to situations. They we're told of an upcoming baby formula crisis in February but didn't take action for over 2 months. They ignored the inflation problem instead telling us that it was only transitory instead of taking action to combat it. They ignored the ongoing humanitarian crisis at the border and take no action to stop it. At what point are we finally going to admit Biden can't do the job competently?
@@richardcontinijr9661 25 miles is still not the same as being in there, especially with a dangerous road to drive down. People were being advised to leave in April and the withdrawal was at the end of August, 4-5 months later. It ended up being rushed because the Afghan Army collapsed. The equipment left wasn't just sitting in a big pile in Kabul Airport. It was scattered all over the country and much of it was in the hands of the Afghan Army who were meant to be using it. Sure you could have blown up a small part of it at the airbase (along with any poor unfortunates at the gate still trying to get in) but much of it would still have been there anyway. Could it have been done better with hindsight? Yup. Was he handed a sh*tshow to deal with by the previous administration? Yup.
These are world-wide problems and it takes time to come up with ways to deal with stuff but they have started. A load of stuff just passed to deal with inflation, healthcare, veterans, energy and more. That alone makes him better than the last clampet.
@@richardcontinijr9661 I agree. Trump would have been so much better at organizing the pullout. Like he pulled out of Stormy Daniels…
“They’re better equipped than the Russian Army now..”
as an American who actually cares that our enemies DO NOT have access to our equipment , this pisses me off to no end!!! first time in history that a known terriorist group was armed in THIS amount of mass..... insanity !
what no, its happened alot shit just look into contra or the mujahidin read up on history before ya start rattling off bullshit.
Al-Queda had 9 highly trained insurgents and they crippled the USA and NATO. Now the Taliban has arguably better trained insurgents and equipment so be prepared for an even worse 9/11.
As an American taxpayer you should be annoyed that your money from 20 years was pretty much pissed away. As an American you should not fear a bunch of Islamic reprobates on the ass side of the world who are quipped about as well as your average pawn shop.
Hello Guys Indian Armed Forces Are far ahead to tackle Taliban Militants even With USA weapons After Takeover Of Taliban their had been only 23 Breaches In LOC as We are taking those PIGs out at LOC only our Frontline troops are far well equipped than Taliban and we lost 6 Soldiers in 1.5 years...and WE got RR (Rashtriya Rifles) or National Rifles over here who have experience of Anti terror operation of 30 + years Same RR kicked backed Taliban Militants in 90s when with the help of pakistan they tried to break Kashmir from India
Sounds like the standard “first one’s free” marketing tactic. Once you get raving fans for your platform then they will be more likely to accept some conditions for access to ammo.
This irritates the shit out of me every time I think about it. When we get out, we have to make sure to return every little thing we are issued. And dealing with the armory already is a huge bitch normally. But the taliban got M4s, M9's, and NODs FOR FUCKING FREE. But I get yelled at for trying to keep my med bag and plate carrier...fucking military man
Bearing in mind that stuff wasn't "left behind" accidentally - it was in the possession of the AMA.
It's just that the AMA crumpled like a house of cards the second the Americans were no longer around, because the number of people who genuinely wanted to create a better state were vastly outnumbered by people who wanted to kill Americans or people who were content to just be ruled over by whatever local tribe had the most guns.
@@DisgruntledArtist They are not going to listen. All they here is US equipment and Taliban. They shut off their ears when you mention that it was for the Afghan Army.
@@DisgruntledArtist exactly thi whole "we left equipment behind on purposed for the taliban" is absurd.
If it makes you feel any better, this ain't nothing new man.
I was reading a WW2 autobiography about a German soldier on the Eastern Front. Basically he was in a retreat that turned into a full on rout, and he lost his rifle and helmet in the ensuing chaos.
He got back to his lines within an inch of his life, but was stopped by MPs and they nearly sentenced him to death for losing his equipment. But an officer came over and told the MPs that his own company had to leave an ENTIRE fuel dump for the Russians and to leave all these stragglers alone.
The author said when he walked away, he was so upset by the experience, that he started crying.
If it makes you feel any better, I appreciate you returning the government issued equipment. I have a whole lot more respect for someone who followed the rules, even when they seemed stupid, than a bunch of supposed ANA who just walked off with free shit. I know my respect isn't going to buy you a new plate carrier, but you have it anyway!
the small arms means little, but the night vision and advanced radio equipment is unacceptable. while rifles and machineguns may improve taliban capabilities, the night vision and radio equipment gives them tactical options they didnt have before.
Not really. The Taliban et. al. already had ICOM clones from China and the Afghan "way of war" is far to casual for them to find NVGs very useful.
@@obsidianjane4413 As is now, id agree. but As the Taliban secures more territories from the tribes, the Taliban are set up to be much like Iran, a theocracy with a dedicated military. and weve given that military advanced capabilities they wouldnt have had before. in a few years, we could see taliban commandos pulling night operations in Pakistan and Nepal while Taliban forces begin training spies and technicians on their captured american tech
who's gonna give them parts
@@jajajaja2624 they can get parts from scrapping other materials or items
@@jajajaja2624 They don't need parts. They have Allah. Seriously. If all they had were sticks and stones they would still fight until the invaders got tired and went away. Again.
Good video Cappy, curious of how veterans feel about this when their brothers died over there 🇨🇦
I aint even american and this shit hurt to watch thats a lot of things left behind
I can tell anyone from India, the vast majority of people in the USA are not happy about this either. FYI, love your Kilroy flag.
I hear Russia is looking for good equipment. It would have been nice if they had at least dumped sand and sugar into the fuel tanks of the vehicles and helicopters.
They did sabotage all the helos in Kabul before they left at least. Better than nothing.
Why would we sabotage vehicles we're leaving to their Afghani Army? Why would we sabotage any of the equipment we were leaving to their military in hopes that they would use the gear to fight the Taliban?
@@michaelwilliams9574 the stuff that was sabotaged was bc they knew the fight was over already. It was when the taliban had Kabul and we where still doing the evac
Hello Guys Indian Armed Forces Are far ahead to tackle Taliban Militants even With USA weapons After Takeover Of Taliban their had been only 23 Breaches In LOC as We are taking those PIGs out at LOC only our Frontline troops are far well equipped than Taliban and we lost 6 Soldiers in 1.5 years...and WE got RR (Rashtriya Rifles) or National Rifles over here who have experience of Anti terror operation of 30 + years Same RR kicked backed Taliban Militants in 90s when with the help of pakistan they tried to break Kashmir from India
Well, this is new for you, we have been doing this since the early 90s...when the paki army sent in hardline Jihadis into Kashmir.
The Taliban would not have survived a single day without Pakistani army and ISI support. They literally run the Taliban. Everything that is provided to the pakis will first be given to the chinese and next to the myriad jehadi groups.
The US can spend billions on making weapons, but not a few weapons on recovering them...
This is either a poor reflection on the accountability- or the fact that it was purposefully done so that the MIC gets to be the sword and the shield.
Ghani apparently didn't pay his troops very well, or at least the money often did not make it into the pockets of the front line troops.
I've said before that the Afghan government should have made an army of 100% women.
That sounds like I'm being ridiculous, but I'm not. Who had the most to lose from the Taliban taking back over?
And they have.
The women don't think like you think that they do.
@@huwhitecavebeast1972 It's not clear whether they would have been nearly as fierce fighters as the Kurdish women battalions, but one can wonder, I guess
Plus because Putin ordered US logistical support withdrawn, the Afghan airforce began to collapse due to mechanical problems and lack of fuel.
Some OPs in the mountains that did a lot for territorial control could only be supplied by the air. After their support was cut off, the Taliban could simply siege them down leisurely.
Plus a lot of the worst/best Afghan warlords were killed over time. Even Matiulah Khan who was all-powerful back then. We deposed him because he was a tyrant and a murderer. The US reinstated him and instantly tripled the number of insurgents in Uruzgan, but even so his militias were a match.
The Taliban slowly ground him down until he fled and was eventually assasinated inside Kabul itself.
An all women army wouldn't fly in a backwards a$$ country like Afghanistan. Women barely had any rights before the USA invaded and even during our occupation women were still considered a man's possession
@@tylerphuoc2653 could be a cool story
Thanks to the US terror outfit like LET,JEM,HM and others are getting M4's and NVG's they are also equipped with Plate carriers,and it's getting really ugly there, a number of security forces who died in the line of duty,died due to AP rounds which is a new occurance
Where is "here"?
Seeing all of that hardware left behind is still fucking painful
As far a the vehicles when they said "specialized maintenance personnel or whatever" I don't think they ever ran across the videos of heavy truck mechanics in that region. It's amazing what they do so little! I'm sure there are plenty of manuals(+ internet duh) laying around being we left all those other goodies.
It's about when they run out of parts. Until they manufacture their own or just sell the vehicles for something they can repair.
@@genericscout5408mostly likey they will do business with Russia
So Russia would gain a neutralize country
If Taliban is smart they would make deals with Russia and Iran and Pakistan and China
The only reason why they’re able to operate these US vehicles with such ease is because the people piloting those vehicles used to be a part of the Afghan national army but they surrendered to the Taliban
I wouldn't say they surrender. They literally just opened the doors and welcomed them in. Much of the national army sympathized with the Taliban.
@@elix901 Yeah another thing that blows my mind is that I’m surprised that Joe Biden didn’t send in the army or the Marines to stop the Taliban at least.
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My guess is, they (The administration) probably didn't care enough to want to waste another service member in that desert.
the taliban (in many muslims eyes is the defender of their native customs....they are not spineless blonde haired swedish people. they do not give their customs and way of life away so easily as a westerner like us might expect. they fight with their lives to preserve their way of life for everyone
@@Datacorrupter234 true
Good thing we didn't waste that money on housing and medical care for our own people. Imagine if we had built houses with that 7 billion...but then those poor defense contractors wouldn't be able to afford their mansions and private schools for their brats, not to mention donations to congressmen. This country is insane, literally insane.
I want the AMA to die
Oorah
You got your hands so earn it and dont expect getting free gifts
Imagine the 80-90 billion (plus the cost to resupply / upgrade) sent to Ukraine when just about 30% reaches the final destination.
@@aliusstrong667 lol man, American medical care is horrendously expensive
For the best and richest country in the world it’s quite the embarrassment
It will be embarrassing when they prove they can operate those weapon systems without needing to spend billions on contractor support.
Just imagine the things that go on that we don’t know about. Shameful.
As an Indian i can say our Army is well trained and battle hardened from years of fighting wars and insurgency. But it will be difficult for them if terrorists are using M4 carbines and advanced US night vision scopes. Still we killed them all and captured their equipment
The Indian Army is well disciplined and resilient. They will be alright.
@@ryanbales8116 but what about civilian targets. Mumbai attacks 26/11
@@Myanmartiger921 that was a terrible time. I don't have enough knowledge to speak on those attacks other than the attackers were Pakistanis.
@@Myanmartiger921 26/11 happened one time.. 1st time... Only time we'll let it happen
The Indian army has a lot of the problems of hierarchy and too down control that plagues the Russian army.
There’s a lot of blame to go around for Afghanistan. It spans multiple administrations.
I think however the current one is getting most of the blame for what happened at least that I know of I didn't do research
This is correct. The initial invasion of Afghanistan was entirely justified after the Taliban protected al Qaeda after 9/11. Bush's invasion of Iraq was stupid and never justified. Once the Taliban was defeated, and al Qaeda willing to wait forever in caves, there was not much we could do but hunt them down as best as possible. Trying to make Afghanistan into a Little America was foolish and everybody knew it. Obama then gave in to political pressure, and rather than withdrawing like promised, he created the "SURGE" of troop numbers and drone strikes. Trump finished the job of withdrawing, but when the tight timeline of the withdraw went badly, he threw his successor under the bus and took zero responsibility for it. Biden didn't help by being a terrible public speaker, spitting and stammering through every speech. Lots of blame to go around for everybody.
@@sithlord5149 yea, he is. And he (or his staff) deserve some blame for completely misreading how quickly the afghan forces would capitulate. They thought they’d have time to withdrawn people from Kabul, and they didn’t wind up getting it.
@@peter5149 man all I want is for people to blame the others for it to I mean yeah the Biden Administration does deserve some of the blame (I agree with yea on that).
All this gear left behind is still very bizarre to me
The fact that nobody has been impeached or faced criminal charges over this is nuts and extremely disappointing.
Indeed Trump should be charged with treason for his handover to the Taliban.
It’s cause we got a senile old man for a president
As humiliating as it is to see the Taliban parade around its arsenal of captured American military equipment, it is questionable whether the Taliban could actually put them to good use against the National Resistance Front, Islamic State - Khorasan Province, and other anti-Taliban opposition groups. American military equipment are complex and maintenance-heavy which requires trained personnel and an organized infrastructure to maintain them, both of which the Taliban currently do not have. The Taliban may be able to conscript personnel and scavenge parts as an interim measure. But sooner or later, the Taliban's arsenal of American-made military equipment will fall apart and they will face the same logistical problems encountered by ISIS in Iraq and Syria.
NODs might break but ACOGs and M4s are made of Rooseveltium.
They can and actively are using them against the NRF. They’re making extensive use of helos and artillery in the Panjshir valley.
They’re also crushing the “organized” resistance groups with massive mechanized juggernauts.
@@MorriRay Some units of the Afghanistan National Army such as the Commando Corps fought valiantly against the Taliban, but they were let down by corrupt and incompetent leadership in Kabul.
While the National Resistance Front are hiding and reorganizing in northern and northeastern Afghanistan, the Taliban are also preoccupied with rooting out Islamic State - Khorasan Province which have shown to be as dangerous as their Iraq-Syria counterparts.
The country has been able to keep Soviet equipment running for decades. It won't take long for them to hire or develop capable mechanics to maintain much of this equipment by themselves. It's also obvious that they're receiving help from Pakistan which has a professional modern Army.
Who cares if they could put it to good use? They shouldn't have it and it was gigantic waste of taxpayer dollars. Other people who can use it will get a hold of it. I don't pay taxes to arm the f*cking Taliban!
No excuse. The big ticket items could have easily been removed. The small weapons and ammo gets palletized. The large stuff gets piled together and burned. A b52 strike hammers the pile into scrap.
Yep.
well they did expect the afghan army to put up a fight.....oops.
Should have given it to Indian army may be ?
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Absolutely. Give it to an allied country. When ww2 ended. Many trucks and jeeps were partially worn out. Tanks of an older design. They were given to countries like Spain. But they still boxed up materials and shipped them back to the USA. The returning troops worked at supply depots sorting, cleaning, and storing everything even canteens for use. For decades ROTC, reservists, and bootcamps trained with that equipment. But not Biden. $80 billion just left behind. The generals should go to jail for wasting.
@@Michael-rg7mx and now those are being used against us :(
Just like AK74's, Bren 2's, SCAR L's, M14's, FN Minimi's and FN MAG 58's and FN 2000's will be turning up on the European arms black market for decades to come from arms supplied to Ukraine that have "disappeared" from armories. I have heard of several accounts of Foreign Legion units finding their rifles and machine guns had vanished from armories after being signed back in after operations. I'm not suggesting we shouldn't be arming the UAF but we it should be conditional on stamping out as much of the corruption like that as possible as it erodes their fighting capacity worse than Russian artillery.