Economy's soft landing isn't looking as soft anymore, says SoFi's Liz Young

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  • Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
  • SoFi’s Liz Young and JPMorgans’ AJ Oden, join 'Closing Bell' to discuss the markets, today's PPI report and the Fed's reaction to the data and what it all means for the Fed's next moves.

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  • @kortyEdna825
    @kortyEdna825 25 дней назад +145

    For boomers and senior citizens, the current market and economy are unnecessarily harder. I'm used to simply purchasing and holding assets, which doesn't seem applicable to the current volatile market, and inflation is catching up with my portfolio. My biggest concern is whether I'll survive after retirement.

    • @foden700
      @foden700 25 дней назад +2

      Just buy and invest in Gold or other reliable stock , the government has failed us and we cant keep living like this.

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    @RichardMoore-jg5tl 26 дней назад +218

    is it really worth investing in stocks in 2024, I’ve been on the sidelines watching the market for awhile and it seems to be pretty stagnant to me not that it matters because I’m in it for the long run, but how can one generate actual profit in this current market?

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      @RusuSilva 26 дней назад +2

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  • @roddywoods8130
    @roddywoods8130 25 дней назад +70

    The dilemma of "higher interest rate leads to expensive borrowing leads to slow economic growth" and vice versa makes it difficult to manoeuvre economic parameters. Yet the stock market isn't showing any sign of slowdown caused by a recession outlook. Investing now instead of saving would make thousands of dollars in ROI if done right.

    • @selenajack2036
      @selenajack2036 25 дней назад +2

      I don't agree it is a real dilemma. These parameters are tweakable can be effectively done to preserve economy while growing the economy. I do agree, though, that the market is rising hell. Heck, I've grown more than 70k this earnings call season.

    • @hushbash2989
      @hushbash2989 25 дней назад +2

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  • @willberry6434
    @willberry6434 27 дней назад +23

    Liz has been bearish for so long

  • @nathanpruitt572
    @nathanpruitt572 27 дней назад +13

    This whole rally started with talk of cutting rates. 6, then 3 and now 1. So expain the bull market.

    • @optimumgaming7404
      @optimumgaming7404 27 дней назад

      It's not news which drives the market, the news is created to fit whichever direction the market manipulators want it to go. The entire thing is a massive scam to control universal wealth.

    • @niklas4031
      @niklas4031 26 дней назад

      Exuberance

  • @keto6789
    @keto6789 27 дней назад +36

    She's been wrong for 10 years .....

  • @amdave76
    @amdave76 27 дней назад +28

    the market climbs a wall worry.... just stay invested.

    • @chrischapman3722
      @chrischapman3722 27 дней назад +1

      I’m in all bonds. There’s way too many people acting greedy with this market. Prices are out of control; especially housing. I’m just out. Right now you get 5% APY on cash… it’s free money for no risk. Lookup the buffet indicator, it estimates stocks are way over valued right now, also why he’s keeping 200 B in cash and he sounded nervous about the market very recently. Too many bought stuff they couldn’t afford with low interest rate debt; they’re about to feel the pain unless they’re very good planners.

    • @SmartestDumbGuy
      @SmartestDumbGuy 27 дней назад +1

      ​@chrischapman3722 could also be late stage capitalism... when the rich have most the money, guess where it goes?
      Into assets.
      That increases PE ratios on stocks because more dollars are chasing investments.

    • @SmartestDumbGuy
      @SmartestDumbGuy 27 дней назад

      ​​@@chrischapman3722 because of increase in easy education... kids in hi school can easily invest from a phone in their pocket for free with fractured shares. Increasing the amount of people investing by a ton. That has never been possible. The last decade really did change everything with technology. More dollars chasing investments.

    • @Jason-gp4hg
      @Jason-gp4hg 20 дней назад

      😂😂😂😂 stay the course people just don’t get it 😂😂😂😂

    • @chrischapman3722
      @chrischapman3722 19 дней назад

      @@SmartestDumbGuy yeah, and the overvaluation of stocks is almost at the same point it was in 1929, the yield curve in a month or so will have been inverted for so long that the only time that was inverted for longer was also the period preceding 1929. And they have no plans of cutting rates this year.
      Not saying anything like it’s going to crash tomorrow but I will say that everyone should be far more defensive right now until things are balanced out. The 1929 stock crash was no joke, puts everything else to shame, 90% of valuation just gone. Millionaires lept from buildings and just ended their lived because one day they were rich and the next they were broke. I know if that happened today the suicide rate would skyrocket because everyone’s retirement plans are based on stocks.

  • @mikev4373
    @mikev4373 27 дней назад +21

    The next time Liz is right about anything will be the first time.

  • @dangood2287
    @dangood2287 27 дней назад +2

    How are prices not adjusting downwards to compensat from 7 rate cuts expected to 1 rate cut expected?

    • @huunguyen5280
      @huunguyen5280 26 дней назад +2

      All manipulation treasury pricing money rate does not matter much

  • @Willfully_Ignorant
    @Willfully_Ignorant 27 дней назад +15

    How does 1 CPI reading being cool tell you that the last 3 being hot were just a blip? Shouldn’t that be the other way around?

  • @davidlowe8597
    @davidlowe8597 27 дней назад +4

    The Starbucks coffee index is pointing to a hard landing.

    • @gregorymilla9213
      @gregorymilla9213 27 дней назад

      Something about Starbucks having 4 shops within sight of each other

  • @ironsoul2633
    @ironsoul2633 26 дней назад +3

    All these so called experts all contradict each other, they don't have a clue

  • @xxxxl2333
    @xxxxl2333 27 дней назад +19

    Powel and FED need to keep market up till elections , this is the only way for Biden to win

    • @lnbt1
      @lnbt1 27 дней назад +1

      With so many problems around the world and Ukraine war and middle east war, the gas / energy price are going to raise this summer and the inflation will be high again. Let's see how Fed is going to keep taming the lower interest rate.

    • @gregorymilla9213
      @gregorymilla9213 27 дней назад

      @@lnbt1 just lie every other fed chairman in history . Trump juiced the economy even when it was booming 2017-2019 .

  • @RaniVeluNachar-kx4lu
    @RaniVeluNachar-kx4lu 20 дней назад

    SOFT is a relative term.
    When you are homeless and use to sleeping rough on the street, sleeping in a house on a carpeted floor next to somebody's snoring dog is heaven.
    We are at 3.6% core CPI and we will, like the "biggest looser" competition, have to fight LONG and HARD for that last 1.6% reduction of CPI to get to 2.0% and I doubt that we will get there in this cycle at all. The Economic World will be just very happy with 2.5% core CPI and unemployment no worse than 4.3 or 4.5%, and a Dollar still in that 1.0875-1.0900 to the Euro range once the Fed puts in a 25 basis points cut or two down the road. I still think the first Fed Funds rate cut is December of 2024, not September.

  • @uehara7973
    @uehara7973 27 дней назад +8

    LOL, they are expecting a CUT already????? LOOOOOL, your expectations will be broken

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    @Susegeissler9 26 дней назад +36

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  • @mariocabella5476
    @mariocabella5476 27 дней назад +3

    Today’s PPI was bad and markets rallied specially R2k and bonds rates went down.
    What else can you ask for?
    Tomorrow’s CPI will be better than the last one. Risk on.
    Do not look what people say, look what market does.
    And liquidity/refi is pretty good.
    Tomorrow could be a nice surprise and later may 22th Nvda’s earnings will bring market higher.

  • @theunbearablebull
    @theunbearablebull 27 дней назад +19

    damn she's been bearish for so long lol

  • @jhull5870
    @jhull5870 26 дней назад +1

    The markets have moved as if the FED cut rates 6 months ago. Mania of the zero interest rates is back.

  • @nickvin7447
    @nickvin7447 27 дней назад +5

    No Shlt.

  • @willbergjames
    @willbergjames 26 дней назад

    why your comapany stock never go up?

  • @timpxcs
    @timpxcs 27 дней назад +2

    AJ Oden needs to listen to his own dialogue… He should ask himself- does my dialogue make sense? Do I sound like a confused millennial? Maybe my Nike sneakers shouldn’t
    be paired with a suit? maybe televised reporting isn’t my calling?

  • @jimmyz5831
    @jimmyz5831 27 дней назад +8

    One day we will stop discussing this very average prime rate. The world is in a growth spurt right now.

  • @juansay8257
    @juansay8257 27 дней назад +2

    Perhaps she's the reason why the company's stock price faced hard landing 😂😂

  • @georgeboutwell6069
    @georgeboutwell6069 27 дней назад

    No cuts….

  • @roosterr201
    @roosterr201 27 дней назад +1

    since we already are in the great depression, there is no such thing as a soft or hard landing! we already crashed :(

  • @ScottFranklin-of3nz
    @ScottFranklin-of3nz 26 дней назад

    Are those apple nbc cnbc laptops

  • @lighter86AJH
    @lighter86AJH 27 дней назад +1

    Here is what will happen. Cpi will come in hot and market will still go up

  • @JimMcNutty
    @JimMcNutty 27 дней назад +6

    Liz can be wrong. She is still fine.

  • @headspaceandtiming2114
    @headspaceandtiming2114 27 дней назад

    We aren’t heading in the right direction. Better get your self ready for a hike.

  • @peterdangelo5882
    @peterdangelo5882 26 дней назад

    FED just halved QT because it was all falling apart. This is a mess.

  • @YesCivic-R
    @YesCivic-R 27 дней назад

    For moderat-earner, it's hard landing. Even EU ids dropping rate. costing $b forgone business opportunities in production and comsumption.

  • @Anthony-dj4nd
    @Anthony-dj4nd 27 дней назад +5

    Looks like it's going to be a bad week😅

  • @leeinthesprings
    @leeinthesprings 26 дней назад

    The market has made it clear they really don't care what the fed is doing anymore and fundamentals are not given the same weight as they did in the past... If anything made sense, Liz would be spot on. That being said, as a trader, I just go with the flow...

  • @AnthonyLoflin-nq8wo
    @AnthonyLoflin-nq8wo 27 дней назад +1

    Don't you mean CRASH landing?

  • @MPDLR
    @MPDLR 27 дней назад +2

    Luscious Liz in white. I love being a guy.

  • @louistan7560
    @louistan7560 25 дней назад

    Remember 2008. This time, it will be a lot worse.

  • @ronfinkbonner14
    @ronfinkbonner14 26 дней назад

    A correction, then panhandle 🤔🤐

  • @lukejohnrussell1026
    @lukejohnrussell1026 25 дней назад

    We're at 3% inflation lol

  • @Snapcracklepop541
    @Snapcracklepop541 25 дней назад

    Seems a flaccid playdough landing is less likely than a half chub landing. -cnbc

  • @ScottFranklin-of3nz
    @ScottFranklin-of3nz 26 дней назад

    Need your 3d glasses in that room of a type of a room

  • @imrandhalla8336
    @imrandhalla8336 26 дней назад +1

    Liz Dan Guy 😢

  • @Agent77X
    @Agent77X 25 дней назад

    Liz Young the stock market Bear!😮

  • @dons3073
    @dons3073 26 дней назад

    Because they know inflations going higher sell your house now yes

  • @davidtunstall6454
    @davidtunstall6454 27 дней назад +2

    Yet another report indicating to stagflation today

  • @eco-enjoyer
    @eco-enjoyer 27 дней назад +2

    In heaven, I will be married to Liz Young.

    • @vaybor
      @vaybor 27 дней назад

      why

    • @briantep458
      @briantep458 27 дней назад +2

      go outside your house

    • @benjaming.2218
      @benjaming.2218 27 дней назад

      You poor simp. Marriage only exists in hell.

    • @eco-enjoyer
      @eco-enjoyer 26 дней назад

      @@briantep458 Says the person responding, lol.

  • @AnkitSingh-gb7ku
    @AnkitSingh-gb7ku 25 дней назад

    This aged like milk

  • @gregorymilla9213
    @gregorymilla9213 27 дней назад +3

    This is the same recession the same people have been predicting everyday for the last three years .

    • @themusic6808
      @themusic6808 27 дней назад +1

      If you take tech out of the major indices you’d see the market has pretty well traded flat since its bottom in late 2022 until late last year, and there likely has been a recession since then. This is an odd scenario where AI, large cap tech and huge earnings growth has masked that and where the market should be in its recovery it’s trading at an all time high. Which has got bears frustrated and bulls who don’t realize this listening to the bears and feeling nervous that things are too good lol and people who have been sitting in cash or treasuries not being able to get a signal on when to get back in because they think interest rates matter and they can time the market.

    • @gregorymilla9213
      @gregorymilla9213 27 дней назад

      @@themusic6808 if what you are proclaiming was true the job market would have collapsed and unemployment would be sky high . Ford Motor gross profit for the twelve months ending December 31, 2023 was $25.641B, a 8.37% increase year-over-year. These numbers don’t happen just because only tech is doing well .

    • @mfinite689
      @mfinite689 27 дней назад

      @@themusic6808 From Forbes this morning: "With 92% of firms reporting, 78% have surpassed earnings-per-share expectations and 59% have exceeded revenue forecasts. An above-average number of S&P 500 companies reported positive earnings surprises, quelling fears that the profit cycle had peaked. Profit margins for the S&P 500 for Q1 in 2024 were 11.7%, which is above the previous quarter’s net profit margin of 11.2%, and above the 5-year average of 11.5%. Seven sectors saw margin expansion while three sectors experienced margin contraction."
      That's more than just tech propping up the market. A broad variety of companies are beating expectations and the majority of sectors are showing increased profit margins. No recession this week but that won't stop someone from saying next week the recession is here.

  • @suleimanpeshawari1032
    @suleimanpeshawari1032 27 дней назад +4

    She was bearish last year

    • @mikev4373
      @mikev4373 27 дней назад +2

      Liz will eventually be right…in the meantime she’s been left in the dust for years.
      It is comical at this point.

    • @thisguy73
      @thisguy73 26 дней назад

      every year

  • @supadave422
    @supadave422 27 дней назад +6

    Liz likes a hard landing 🤣

    • @keto6789
      @keto6789 27 дней назад +1

      aaaw yeeeah

  • @saininj
    @saininj 27 дней назад

    Oh, ya think!?

  • @AR-rn8ok
    @AR-rn8ok 27 дней назад

    Well if they let off a little bit of steam, real estate won’t collapse, if they don’t take a little pressure off the economy by giving a little rate drop, things are going to be really bad.
    It’s not so much the level of rates alone but the combination of speed with which they increased them, that snowballs into a really bad collapse.

  • @vaneh6982
    @vaneh6982 27 дней назад

    E Y from SOFI is my fave on cnbc

  • @luislu8615
    @luislu8615 27 дней назад +13

    How can someone be so wrong for so long, yet always be so confident? That’s Liz Young’s strength I guess, very thick skinned indeed.

    • @themusic6808
      @themusic6808 27 дней назад +2

      Bears would rather stay bearish because they know they get a few pull backs or a correction a year to have their ah hah moment and a few times a decade they get a recession to really relish over the I knew it all along, but they don’t make any money lol

    • @Chad_Max
      @Chad_Max 27 дней назад +1

      DEI hire…

  • @user-xr6zm8cx6r
    @user-xr6zm8cx6r 27 дней назад +2

    This anchor always bullish he doesn't want to see market correction which is fundamental

  • @sokatbeszel7312
    @sokatbeszel7312 27 дней назад

    😂

  • @daveybro
    @daveybro 27 дней назад

    Forget about these media noise, trend is your friend until it isn’t - only fundstrat Tom Lee, got the prediction right - but he was sweating bullets while he was wrong- this tells me nobody can predict- what they say will eventually be right -

  • @liudizzle
    @liudizzle 27 дней назад +2

    Liz, it’s ok to admit you’re wrong and turn bullish

  • @SmilingInstantCamera-ix9bx
    @SmilingInstantCamera-ix9bx 27 дней назад

    Liz pushing back against mr. tow the line perpetual bull judge. good for her. things look great...until they don't! house of cards in here...look out for the slightest breeze. good job Liz!

  • @josefperry3836
    @josefperry3836 27 дней назад

    Tomorrow's going to give us a clear inflation picture. Two reports -- retail sales and the consumer price index -- are like boyfriend and girlfriend. Where the one is there also is the other.

  • @haze_the_alchemist1123
    @haze_the_alchemist1123 27 дней назад +5

    VOTE TRUMP

  • @shuikai272
    @shuikai272 27 дней назад

    rates +5% for 1 year = stock go down

    • @briantep458
      @briantep458 27 дней назад

      rates have been +5% for the past 10 months. Stocks have gone straight up

    • @shuikai272
      @shuikai272 27 дней назад +1

      @@briantep458 give it a year or two

  • @ronsunshine3469
    @ronsunshine3469 27 дней назад

    Does she have expertise? Is that expertise validated by the performance of the company that employs her? Have her prior speculations and prognostications proven accurate? Well, she has a dynamite smile, nice body, and professional-sounding cadence, so she must be right. #Substance

  • @lulubelle551
    @lulubelle551 27 дней назад

    Don’t worry you’ll get your QE and zero bound back soon enough…

  • @bradtaylor8624
    @bradtaylor8624 27 дней назад

    Been bearish and wrong.

  • @AH-fm7rj
    @AH-fm7rj 27 дней назад +5

    Those who are arguing there is no need for rate cuts, are shorting tons of companies that are going to hit their bond maturity wall by the end of this year. There is going to be blood bath if rates don’t go back to 0 soon.

  • @brycesattler2301
    @brycesattler2301 27 дней назад

    ☯️

  • @yenafar
    @yenafar 26 дней назад

    What does she get talking always negative, I mean seeing half full glass half empty, She’s been calling for market drop since the beginning of the year

  • @joeybob4112
    @joeybob4112 26 дней назад

    Nice try. Never been a soft landing ever

  • @duramajin3118
    @duramajin3118 27 дней назад

    Lol liz the bear bozo

  • @jimmyguni
    @jimmyguni 27 дней назад

    In one breath, Liz says gdp growth will climb, and in next breath, consumer confidence is changing and down. CMI is already down. What do these people actually do all day to be “finance experts”?!

  • @kenthoover3573
    @kenthoover3573 27 дней назад +2

    No wonder Sofi stock is in the crapper

  • @johnschwartz7231
    @johnschwartz7231 27 дней назад +3

    She's been a downer, even as the market goes to all time highs.What a joke and by the way, her bank's not doing very well either.Stay away

  • @williambudd2850
    @williambudd2850 25 дней назад

    Its time for the fed to stop their wishful thinking, get off their ass and raise rates again or go home and bake cookies.

  • @bradelliot1027
    @bradelliot1027 27 дней назад +3

    wait how long can Liz be wrong...two years and counting...seriously?

  • @jimmeh1990
    @jimmeh1990 26 дней назад

    At my opinion woman are better in trading.

  • @ecigglobal1116
    @ecigglobal1116 27 дней назад +2

    Everything is going to collapse
    Credit card debt is on all time high
    Stocks and real estate are due for 25%-30% Correction !

    • @briantep458
      @briantep458 27 дней назад

      we just had two major corrections (33% and 27%) in 2 out of the last 4 years

    • @ecigglobal1116
      @ecigglobal1116 27 дней назад

      @@briantep458 corrections up ?

  • @paulrobbo321
    @paulrobbo321 27 дней назад +3

    She only gets a by but let’s be honest she’s actually worse than Guy and Dan because those two have stuck to their incorrect calls but she’s now just making noise

  • @andypicken7848
    @andypicken7848 27 дней назад

    What a load of fluff

  • @markl1473
    @markl1473 27 дней назад +1

    They pay Liz to be wrong.

  • @Toby-oq8cg
    @Toby-oq8cg 27 дней назад

    Wrong again and again and again …

  • @ibrahimseth8646
    @ibrahimseth8646 27 дней назад

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    Share Price=100 USD
    Portfolio=6(More or less)
    Capital Buy=USD Sell=USD Gross
    30B 100 150 45B
    30B 75 150 60B
    30B 60 150 75B
    30B 50 150 90B
    30B 30 150 150B
    30B 25 150 180B
    30B 15 150 300B
    30B 10 150 450B
    30B 6 150 750B
    30B 3 150 1500B
    Buy Share:
    30 Year=300B=A2
    1 Year=300B/30 Year
    1 Year=10B
    1 Month=10B/12 Month
    1 Month=0.83B++
    Yield(Average)=12%
    Yield(30 Year)=300B*1.12^30
    Yield(30 Year)=8,980B++
    If Dividen=4%=8,980B*4%
    Dividen=4%=359.2B
    If 5%=10B(Dividen)
    100%=10B/5%
    100%=200B(Invest)
    Loan=1,200B Yield=5% Year=30
    Loan(30 Year)=1,200B*1.05^30
    Loan(30 Year)=5,200B
    Loan=1,200B
    {
    A1=300B
    A2=300B
    Balance=B1=600B
    }
    If B1=600B
    Payout(30 Year)=9,000B
    {
    Loan(30 Year)=5,200B
    Balance(30 Year)=3,800B
    }
    Premium=? Yield=8% Year=30
    Premium=9,000B/1.08^30
    Premium=900B(30 Year)
    Premium(1 Year)=900B/30 Year
    Premium(1 Year)=30B
    5%=30B(Dividen)
    100%=30B/5%
    100%=600B(Invest)
    Thank you.