Thank you so much for having me on one of my favourite channels and for letting me geek out about the mechanics of learning. I forgot to mention this earlier, but just a quick disclaimer: English is not my first language and I am not used to podcasting, so some of the points I made might have needed a bit more nuance. I hope I came across as humble - please keep that in mind. This was so much fun!🥰
Solveig, to use the jargon, you were a grrreat guest! Thank you so much for joining me, I really really enjoyed it. I am already looking forward to our next talk 🫶
As an educator and psychologist, I was not expecting to hear about inductive learning and constructivism! I thought Solveig's idea about trade learning v. academic learning was particularly interesting. Looking forward to the conversation continuing. Excellent stuff, as usual.
Wow, that is so awesome and humbling to hear - That a educator and psychologist found my thoughts interesting ! Thank you for sharing and I'm happy you enjoyed 🥰
@@RookieRedhead In fact, you used an analogy that I use with clients all the time - you may not feel better (or improve) right away, but like the stock market there will be ups and downs and we can reasonably expect to get some positive return over time. Thanks for your input on a very thoughtful episode.
"The Pedagogical Blueprint for Chess Success: Insights from Solveig Friberg" what a title. Feels like it could have been a book. Wonderful, intelligent woman.. Great chat, lots of good insights from both of you. Thanks.
What an insightful conversation. Breaking 1000 and The Chess Elevator were the first two courses I purchased from Chessable and I loved them both. I agree they complement each other very nicely. Listening to you both made me think that I made a great choice. Thank you so much!
Fascinating chat between the pair of you, I can totally relate to where the young lady is coming from regarding learning this beautiful game and very insightful how she has achieved her goals by improving her understanding and techniques, her passion like yours really comes through and i believe it is very true that the way we play is very much a reflection on the way we tackle challenges in life, or at least initially before we gain our experience, enjoyable episode for sure and I wish her every success in her endeavours
That was amazing! I thoroughly enjoyed that discussion you two had. It was a very enlightening experience. Academic verses Tradecraft way of learning; brilliant stuff. 💡
Great vid, many thanks, I found that I had more knowlege than skill for quite a while and changed the way I learned to just playing more, so for me I agree with solneig thoughts
Beautiful episode again and I learned a lot about my own play style while listing to Solveig's explanations. I’m for sure an academic learner and after this episode I clearly see that I have to put my study aside and focus more on playing. I have to admit that Breaking 1000 is the only course I refunded as of today and the reason was not that it was bad, but it didn’t add anything to my existing knowledge. But I will check out her next course for sure. I also want to say that I disagree that a GM is not able to teach beginners, because one of my most favorite chess courses is from GM Sam Shankland about Board Vision and his explanations are easy to remember. For example I never understood so well how Knights move than in his course.
I really enjoyed this discussion 👏👏💯 great show 👌as a struggling chess lover, having to go through the process of self coaching, over many years,I have noticed that the brain gets excited when it understands,new information, and then wants to put it into practice, when it's academic the brain gets bored,it happens a lot while trying to learn openings,also there's tendancy to FORGET 😔 information but once understood it's permanent memory, to quote znosko barovsky in an old book on openings, saying chess is a game of understanding 🎉
An excellent episode of the podcast. There were many excellent points made but I especially appreciate the conception of chess as a trade. It matches the idea of many chess writers who talk about the difference between knowledge and skill. One question I have in regard to chess pedagogy is does teaching methodology change as elo increases? Does taking a student from 500 elo to 800 elo have the same methodology as taking someone from 1800 elo to 2100 elo. Obviously, the exercises used would be much more difficult in the latter but are the lessons themselves fundamentally structured differently? For example: you mentioned the value of group lessons. Do higher elo players need more individual attention to advance or would they still benefit from a group?
Those are some great questions, Eli! That probably deserves a longer discussion, but here are my intuitive thoughts: direct instruction can be more effective for complete beginners as their working memory resources can very easily get overwhelmed - since they have very little patterns in their long-term memories. But they can still benefit a lot from group instruction I think, as long as the teacher gives good support and holds their hands or as Solveig said, catch them at the right moment. As one grows stronger, I think individual lessons become more beneficial and discovery learning approaches may be impactful, as there is less chance the student gets overwhelmed. But there is no scientific study on this when it comes to chess learning! So what I said above is my own analogies from studies conducted in other domains.
@@Dr.CansClinic Yeah and also your thoughts 😊 And what she Said „you are a really great chessplayer, if you found..“ this is a really motivating sentence, also in my feel 😊
I loved this podcast. Knowing how the learning process works is always fascinating for me, and I really enjoyed hearing about some of the coaching methods you use with your students. I also like that both of you care about helping lower rated players improve, and that you consider getting to 1200 OTB in a year good progress, because that's also roughly how long it took me and I always thought it was slow. Chess psychology is definitely a big issue for me too. I would like to have the option to turn off the visibility of your rating on the entire platform, because for me the issue isn't really seeing my opponent's rating, but watching how my own rating changes as a result of my wins and losses. Or watching it not change at all despite continuing to invest tons of time into chess. I have started playing bots instead of humans partly to circumvent these issues from now, because even though it's probably less instructive to do that, the psychological benefits outweigh the costs of seeing less human-like play for me Looking forward to seeing Solveig again, she's a very smart and interesting person
Dr. Can, I have just subscribed to your channel after watching your video: "You're Probably Misusing your Rooks --" which, along with other tutorials that you've posted, I've found to be more valuable to my Chess education than the videos of any other RUclips streamer to date. I have never taken the time to address the person responsible for a post; but, I'd like to personally thank you for your helpful tutorials: Thank you, Dr. Can, and I look forward to watching all of your future videos. Sincerely, Josh Flores
Josh, your words are so motivating for me. I am so glad that the video has benefited you. I heard from three other people that that particular video has significantly improved their endgames!
@@Dr.CansClinic Update: Thanks to the early Rook activation, and appropriate Rook activity/placement in the middle-game of my most recent daily game, I was able to win by Checkmate. Now: I'm finishing up a daily game using your "Universal Opening for Black." -- This, I'll be using from now on for Rapid games with Black. (I'll be recommending your channel to my opponent, as well as to all of my other friends) I can't thank you enough, Dr. Can. Please excuse the length of my comments and panageric. Sincerely, Josh Flores
A very fundamental point made in chess learningas a craft ,as a painter, all my knowledge is applied from thinking creatively, when applying knowledge, so for me creative thinking is more important than academic craming, only after awhile one will automatically seek academic process for more improvement when creativity runs out 🎉
fascinating. Something I notice that is missing (except here and there in books) is using openings to teach specific tactics. E.G.: What is the usual aspect of this opening that stresses this technique (e.g will usually lead to a pawn storm; an isolated pawn; rook lanes, etc.)? This would help link the post-opening couple of moves to subsequent practicalities. That would be terrific.
I totally agree - In Breaking 1000 I am actually emphasising (of course in addition to much else) that knowing common plans and tactics for your specific opening is extremely helpful in the middlegame. Still, sometimes weird things happen in the opening, and suddenly you find yourself in a completely atypical middlegame, so it is important to not rely too much on it!
Thank you, Peter! Typical middlegame chunks from the openings is so imporant to learn - that is why I made some videos on Typical Sicilian and French patterns. And probably that is also why I did not create an opening course on Chessable yet as it felt like a mountain to climb, together with some perfectionism I guess...
Something you didn't touch on psychologically, which will sound strange given your discussion of attacking, is not wanting the other person to lose. Losing is so awful -- why would you inflict it on someone else? You more or less accept that the killer instinct is required. But what if I care for the other person's feelings? I think this helps explain using bots over over-the-board play, etc, and staying away from the rest. Whatever you think of chess, it has a fundamental historical frame of war and violence. Is there a place for a non violent player? (Here I would invoke aspects of Taoism). @@Dr.CansClinic
@@peterintoronto6472 That's very interesting - I had to ponder this for a while. I also see chess as a game of war strategy! I enjoy other strategy games too, like the Civilization series. In those games, you don’t _have_ to pursue a military victory, you can aim for a scientific or cultural victory, for example. If we apply that analogy to chess, science might represent technique or knowledge, while culture could represent beauty. Essentially, if you don’t enjoy the brutality, it might help to find another motivation...? You could focus on playing with great technique or strive to play a beautiful game? As for worrying about your opponent feeling upset after a loss, it’s important to remember that you’re not responsible for others’ feelings. As long as you act with kindness and respect, it’s not your responsibility if someone struggles with losing. :) Sounds harsh, but it's the truth. It rings true for life in general as well.
Thought provoking... Using terms beginner, intermediate, advanced... Would be nice to know the ELO range for these terms used... My rating suggests an intermediate level but i know there are beginner gaps in my knowledge basing it on my accuracy scores on the theory/adacemia i know verses the hands learning methodology. Want to narrow the range of my accuracy and be more consistant... The info presented i believe will help me discover these gaps...
Thank you so much! There are indeed no clear boundaries between those levels. And as you said, you can be an advanced player in strategy but a beginner in tactical vision. There are diverse skill sets that determine chess strength. It is huge to spot those gaps in our knowledge. I created the Chess Elevator to raise our chess floor and make sure we don't miss out on fundamental thought processes.
@@Dr.CansClinic With a renewed interest in your channel i took a look at my chessable courses and was suprised that i had one of your courses half completed. So will restart that and complete it with several others on my wishlist. The video and explanations is the value add that i can relate to...
Thank you both of you for sharing your very insightful and informative discussion - deductive versus inductive approach was interesting. Another example could be music instruction where you learn by playing, and after awhile you develop a sort of muscle memory. Chess is about making decisions which is a skill that is developed as well. But how do you explain children with 2k plus ratings? Can we learn anything from them? Is there something different about the way children think? - (I.e. simple fundamental thinking, forming initial memories/experiences versus more adult style where you're comparing to what you already know) Or those who make huge leaps while others don't. Does IQ or learning style play a part, all things being equal?
I have asked myself the same thing, and I have to admit - I don't know. I only teach adults and don't have much experience with children, I don't have kids myself either. I'd be very interested to hear about it from someone who knows more.
Thank you! Your questions are fascinating and they probably require a video to be fully answered. I will think of an expert to invite and talk about those! I don't have much experience with coaching children either. During our talk with Andras Toth, he said adults tend to overthink and don't apply the patterns they know, suspecting for potential blunders, or thinking that they are smarter than those patterns. while children tend to play more confidently with flow (fewer preconceived notions instead of overcomplicating things). Neural plasticity of the children also allows rapid accumulation of chess patterns. Add that additional cognitive load for adults such as stress, work, family life, etc. If I remember correctly, for children, IQ has been shown to correlate with chess strength during early stages of development but this effect disappears as they grow stronger.
@@RookieRedhead I also liked what you touched on about how it's not good to focus so much on ELO as a goal. I saw a video where Anna Cramling was asking Fabiano Caruana if he thought she could become a GM. He wouldn't answer and said the focus should be on gaining as much chess knowledge as possible, and that he would never tell anyone to limit their dreams and goals.
@@Dr.CansClinic I'd be fascinated to learn about how a chess prodigy thinks. Is it all that different than an adult learner? Is it visual spatial and pattern recognition, intuitive and move by move... how do they evaluate a position... and I loved the discussion format and the back and forth between you guys, you should do more interviews together!
Did I dream it, or did you do a video recently on keeping pawn tension for one move...? I can't seem to find it in my history nor in your videos. Thanks!
Hmmm... "Productive Failure" applied to Game Analysis seems dubious? (Too many moving parts: strategy & positional issues, knowledge issues, opening theory, opponents intentions, your own emotional involvement, time management, spectators, position in the League or Tournament, etc ) Failed puzzles make a better test tube, surely. If you Failed, you Overlooked. But what, exactly? A Seed of Tactical Destruction, maybe. Or to list the available captures, maybe. Or a Retained Image visualization issue, maybe. The Screwup List seems more finite, and therefore more manageable, somehow...
I see where you are coming from Jim, thanks for sharing. More direction to the failure is absolutely important! I hope my videos are helpful here as I draw your attention to a specific - and hopefully important - position and ask you to stop and think first. Even if you fail, after my explanations and reflections that may lead to productive failure. Game analysis: yes, ideally we need more direction to precisely figure out what went wrong. A coach is especially helpful here. Then a coach can also give you training game positions on your specific weaknesses, as I gave those attacking positions to Dan and asked him to crush me on simultaneous games over a month. I let him try and practice. He failed a lot. But then we reflected on it. Then he crushed me in the end.
I found Solveig to be a great communicator and it was a joy to hear her sharing her passion for the game of chess ♟️ I found it fascinating that she is not comfortable with competition in life and yet, her desire to improve and help others is so admirable. 👍 Thank you Dr Cann for recognizing this great talent in Solveig and bringing her to our attention.✅
Thank you so much for having me on one of my favourite channels and for letting me geek out about the mechanics of learning. I forgot to mention this earlier, but just a quick disclaimer: English is not my first language and I am not used to podcasting, so some of the points I made might have needed a bit more nuance. I hope I came across as humble - please keep that in mind. This was so much fun!🥰
Solveig, to use the jargon, you were a grrreat guest! Thank you so much for joining me, I really really enjoyed it. I am already looking forward to our next talk 🫶
yeah , leave a comment sometimes to boost the channel , i believe that people was pleased with you and do it again !
Your English is excellent and you articulate your thoughts very well. Great video and insights.
I would live to hear you speak norwegian. I would even understand most of it.
As an educator and psychologist, I was not expecting to hear about inductive learning and constructivism! I thought Solveig's idea about trade learning v. academic learning was particularly interesting. Looking forward to the conversation continuing. Excellent stuff, as usual.
Wow, that is so awesome and humbling to hear - That a educator and psychologist found my thoughts interesting ! Thank you for sharing and I'm happy you enjoyed 🥰
She was super interesting to hear indeed. Hope she will be our regular guest on this channel 🙏
@@RookieRedhead In fact, you used an analogy that I use with clients all the time - you may not feel better (or improve) right away, but like the stock market there will be ups and downs and we can reasonably expect to get some positive return over time. Thanks for your input on a very thoughtful episode.
@@Dr.CansClinic Great choice of guest! Look forward to more thought-provoking conversations.
"The Pedagogical Blueprint for Chess Success: Insights from Solveig Friberg" what a title. Feels like it could have been a book. Wonderful, intelligent woman.. Great chat, lots of good insights from both of you. Thanks.
She is great indeed! Thank you!
Thanks a lot for this great insightful discussion. So many aspects most adult learners should be aware of. Please continue with such great content!
I'm happy you enjoyed the talk 🥰
So glad to hear that you liked it. I will surely invite her again!
yes , you are a great teacher ! that's why we love you Doc
So motivating, thank you!
What an insightful conversation. Breaking 1000 and The Chess Elevator were the first two courses I purchased from Chessable and I loved them both. I agree they complement each other very nicely. Listening to you both made me think that I made a great choice. Thank you so much!
I'm so happy to hear you loved the course 🥰
That is so nice to hear, I really think those two courses nicely complement each other!
Learning how to learn is an utmostly important topic. How very nice that it's covered by two experts in this unparalleled chess channel!❤
Our pleasure! I really enjoyed this one.
I'm so glad you enjoyed!
As far as podcasts go, this was one of the very best.!!
😃🥰
I had the same feeling! That is why I would love her to be our regular guest.
Fascinating chat between the pair of you, I can totally relate to where the young lady is coming from regarding learning this beautiful game and very insightful how she has achieved her goals by improving her understanding and techniques, her passion like yours really comes through and i believe it is very true that the way we play is very much a reflection on the way we tackle challenges in life, or at least initially before we gain our experience, enjoyable episode for sure and I wish her every success in her endeavours
I am glad you liked it and found it relatable 😄 PS: Thank you for labelling me as young!😁
It was so nice to hear her insights indeed. ☺️
@shutupandkeeplicking Like I always say: It helps to live in a freezer if you want to preserve the meat prison of the soul.
That was amazing! I thoroughly enjoyed that discussion you two had. It was a very enlightening experience. Academic verses Tradecraft way of learning; brilliant stuff. 💡
I loved it too! She should visit us again, right?
@Dr.CansClinic Yes, she should. She has a lot of interesting insights about the game.
@@KaijudoMaster11 Absolutely!
Great vid, many thanks, I found that I had more knowlege than skill for quite a while and changed the way I learned to just playing more, so for me I agree with solneig thoughts
Thank you! It sounds like you made the right choice by getting your hands dirty!
Im glad you enjoyed it
Beautiful episode again and I learned a lot about my own play style while listing to Solveig's explanations. I’m for sure an academic learner and after this episode I clearly see that I have to put my study aside and focus more on playing. I have to admit that Breaking 1000 is the only course I refunded as of today and the reason was not that it was bad, but it didn’t add anything to my existing knowledge. But I will check out her next course for sure. I also want to say that I disagree that a GM is not able to teach beginners, because one of my most favorite chess courses is from GM Sam Shankland about Board Vision and his explanations are easy to remember. For example I never understood so well how Knights move than in his course.
I really enjoyed this discussion 👏👏💯 great show 👌as a struggling chess lover, having to go through the process of self coaching, over many years,I have noticed that the brain gets excited when it understands,new information, and then wants to put it into practice, when it's academic the brain gets bored,it happens a lot while trying to learn openings,also there's tendancy to FORGET 😔 information but once understood it's permanent memory, to quote znosko barovsky in an old book on openings, saying chess is a game of understanding 🎉
☺️ Thank you for your insights! The forgetting curve is very steep indeed, so we have to make it stick by making it relevant.
Very insightful and instructive. Keep up the excellent content!
🥰
Thank you so much! ☺️
The same point she makes about deductive versus inductive learning is the same dispute I have been having about jazz improvisation pedagogy for years.
That is so interesting!
Thank you for mentioning this analogy!
An excellent episode of the podcast. There were many excellent points made but I especially appreciate the conception of chess as a trade. It matches the idea of many chess writers who talk about the difference between knowledge and skill. One question I have in regard to chess pedagogy is does teaching methodology change as elo increases? Does taking a student from 500 elo to 800 elo have the same methodology as taking someone from 1800 elo to 2100 elo. Obviously, the exercises used would be much more difficult in the latter but are the lessons themselves fundamentally structured differently? For example: you mentioned the value of group lessons. Do higher elo players need more individual attention to advance or would they still benefit from a group?
Those are some great questions, Eli! That probably deserves a longer discussion, but here are my intuitive thoughts: direct instruction can be more effective for complete beginners as their working memory resources can very easily get overwhelmed - since they have very little patterns in their long-term memories. But they can still benefit a lot from group instruction I think, as long as the teacher gives good support and holds their hands or as Solveig said, catch them at the right moment. As one grows stronger, I think individual lessons become more beneficial and discovery learning approaches may be impactful, as there is less chance the student gets overwhelmed. But there is no scientific study on this when it comes to chess learning! So what I said above is my own analogies from studies conducted in other domains.
Really nice interview, not only for Chess also for me as clarinetteacher ❤ I love that you discuss so different themes on your channel 😊
Lovely feedback, thank you so much! Really glad to hear Solveig's insights resonated with a clarinet teacher too! ☺️
@@Dr.CansClinic Yeah and also your thoughts 😊 And what she Said „you are a really great chessplayer, if you found..“ this is a really motivating sentence, also in my feel 😊
I'm happy you enjoyed
@@Jessikas-Klarinettenoasewill keep saying it 😊
@@Dr.CansClinic Yeah please 😄
I loved this podcast. Knowing how the learning process works is always fascinating for me, and I really enjoyed hearing about some of the coaching methods you use with your students.
I also like that both of you care about helping lower rated players improve, and that you consider getting to 1200 OTB in a year good progress, because that's also roughly how long it took me and I always thought it was slow.
Chess psychology is definitely a big issue for me too. I would like to have the option to turn off the visibility of your rating on the entire platform, because for me the issue isn't really seeing my opponent's rating, but watching how my own rating changes as a result of my wins and losses. Or watching it not change at all despite continuing to invest tons of time into chess. I have started playing bots instead of humans partly to circumvent these issues from now, because even though it's probably less instructive to do that, the psychological benefits outweigh the costs of seeing less human-like play for me
Looking forward to seeing Solveig again, she's a very smart and interesting person
Thank you! She is a great person indeed, I really liked our talk. I will surely invite her again in the future.
Dr. Can, I have just subscribed to your channel after watching your video: "You're Probably Misusing your Rooks --" which, along with other tutorials that you've posted, I've found to be more valuable to my Chess education than the videos of any other RUclips streamer to date. I have never taken the time to address the person responsible for a post; but, I'd like to personally thank you for your helpful tutorials: Thank you, Dr. Can, and I look forward to watching all of your future videos.
Sincerely,
Josh Flores
Josh, your words are so motivating for me. I am so glad that the video has benefited you. I heard from three other people that that particular video has significantly improved their endgames!
@@Dr.CansClinic Update: Thanks to the early Rook activation, and appropriate Rook activity/placement in the middle-game of my most recent daily game, I was able to win by Checkmate. Now: I'm finishing up a daily game using your "Universal Opening for Black." -- This, I'll be using from now on for Rapid games with Black. (I'll be recommending your channel to my opponent, as well as to all of my other friends)
I can't thank you enough, Dr. Can. Please excuse the length of my comments and panageric.
Sincerely,
Josh Flores
@@joshuaflores3647 ❤ Amazing feedback. Lovely. So happy reading it!
It's one of the strong points of this channel you can bet 🎉 anytime you tune into Dr cans , you a guaranteed to learn something NEW 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Lovely feedback, so motivating! She was a great guest and I will surely invite her again.
A very fundamental point made in chess learningas a craft ,as a painter, all my knowledge is applied from thinking creatively, when applying knowledge, so for me creative thinking is more important than academic craming, only after awhile one will automatically seek academic process for more improvement when creativity runs out 🎉
Well said!
Fascinating chat!
Thank you! I really enjoyed it too.
fascinating. Something I notice that is missing (except here and there in books) is using openings to teach specific tactics. E.G.: What is the usual aspect of this opening that stresses this technique (e.g will usually lead to a pawn storm; an isolated pawn; rook lanes, etc.)? This would help link the post-opening couple of moves to subsequent practicalities. That would be terrific.
I totally agree - In Breaking 1000 I am actually emphasising (of course in addition to much else) that knowing common plans and tactics for your specific opening is extremely helpful in the middlegame. Still, sometimes weird things happen in the opening, and suddenly you find yourself in a completely atypical middlegame, so it is important to not rely too much on it!
Thank you, Peter! Typical middlegame chunks from the openings is so imporant to learn - that is why I made some videos on Typical Sicilian and French patterns. And probably that is also why I did not create an opening course on Chessable yet as it felt like a mountain to climb, together with some perfectionism I guess...
@@RookieRedhead Weird things are always happening in my openings. I look forward to your course.....
Something you didn't touch on psychologically, which will sound strange given your discussion of attacking, is not wanting the other person to lose. Losing is so awful -- why would you inflict it on someone else? You more or less accept that the killer instinct is required. But what if I care for the other person's feelings? I think this helps explain using bots over over-the-board play, etc, and staying away from the rest. Whatever you think of chess, it has a fundamental historical frame of war and violence. Is there a place for a non violent player? (Here I would invoke aspects of Taoism). @@Dr.CansClinic
@@peterintoronto6472 That's very interesting - I had to ponder this for a while. I also see chess as a game of war strategy! I enjoy other strategy games too, like the Civilization series. In those games, you don’t _have_ to pursue a military victory, you can aim for a scientific or cultural victory, for example. If we apply that analogy to chess, science might represent technique or knowledge, while culture could represent beauty. Essentially, if you don’t enjoy the brutality, it might help to find another motivation...? You could focus on playing with great technique or strive to play a beautiful game?
As for worrying about your opponent feeling upset after a loss, it’s important to remember that you’re not responsible for others’ feelings. As long as you act with kindness and respect, it’s not your responsibility if someone struggles with losing. :) Sounds harsh, but it's the truth. It rings true for life in general as well.
Thought provoking...
Using terms beginner, intermediate, advanced...
Would be nice to know the ELO range for these terms used...
My rating suggests an intermediate level but i know there are beginner gaps in my knowledge basing it on my accuracy scores on the theory/adacemia i know verses the hands learning methodology.
Want to narrow the range of my accuracy and be more consistant...
The info presented i believe will help me discover these gaps...
Thank you so much! There are indeed no clear boundaries between those levels. And as you said, you can be an advanced player in strategy but a beginner in tactical vision. There are diverse skill sets that determine chess strength. It is huge to spot those gaps in our knowledge. I created the Chess Elevator to raise our chess floor and make sure we don't miss out on fundamental thought processes.
@@Dr.CansClinic With a renewed interest in your channel i took a look at my chessable courses and was suprised that i had one of your courses half completed. So will restart that and complete it with several others on my wishlist. The video and explanations is the value add that i can relate to...
@@robwilliams3592 That is great to hear, thank you! Please ask me anything on Chessable while studying the courses! I am always happy to help.
Thank you both of you for sharing your very insightful and informative discussion - deductive versus inductive approach was interesting. Another example could be music instruction where you learn by playing, and after awhile you develop a sort of muscle memory. Chess is about making decisions which is a skill that is developed as well.
But how do you explain children with 2k plus ratings? Can we learn anything from them? Is there something different about the way children think? - (I.e. simple fundamental thinking, forming initial memories/experiences versus more adult style where you're comparing to what you already know) Or those who make huge leaps while others don't. Does IQ or learning style play a part, all things being equal?
I have asked myself the same thing, and I have to admit - I don't know. I only teach adults and don't have much experience with children, I don't have kids myself either. I'd be very interested to hear about it from someone who knows more.
Thank you! Your questions are fascinating and they probably require a video to be fully answered. I will think of an expert to invite and talk about those! I don't have much experience with coaching children either.
During our talk with Andras Toth, he said adults tend to overthink and don't apply the patterns they know, suspecting for potential blunders, or thinking that they are smarter than those patterns. while children tend to play more confidently with flow (fewer preconceived notions instead of overcomplicating things). Neural plasticity of the children also allows rapid accumulation of chess patterns. Add that additional cognitive load for adults such as stress, work, family life, etc. If I remember correctly, for children, IQ has been shown to correlate with chess strength during early stages of development but this effect disappears as they grow stronger.
@@RookieRedhead I also liked what you touched on about how it's not good to focus so much on ELO as a goal. I saw a video where Anna Cramling was asking Fabiano Caruana if he thought she could become a GM. He wouldn't answer and said the focus should be on gaining as much chess knowledge as possible, and that he would never tell anyone to limit their dreams and goals.
@@Dr.CansClinic I'd be fascinated to learn about how a chess prodigy thinks. Is it all that different than an adult learner? Is it visual spatial and pattern recognition, intuitive and move by move... how do they evaluate a position... and I loved the discussion format and the back and forth between you guys, you should do more interviews together!
@@in10se777 Oh, that's a great and warm answer by Fabiano Caruana! Thanks for sharing this!
How on earth is it possible that this channel only has 14.000 subscribers? The quality of Can’s videos are extremely high. I just dont get it.
Your words mean a lot to me. Please share the channel so we can reach more people. 🙏
Did I dream it, or did you do a video recently on keeping pawn tension for one move...? I can't seem to find it in my history nor in your videos. Thanks!
It was not a dream! ruclips.net/video/tNXwxHXLKbU/видео.html
Hmmm... "Productive Failure" applied to Game Analysis seems dubious? (Too many moving parts: strategy & positional issues, knowledge issues, opening theory, opponents intentions, your own emotional involvement, time management, spectators, position in the League or Tournament, etc ) Failed puzzles make a better test tube, surely. If you Failed, you Overlooked. But what, exactly? A Seed of Tactical Destruction, maybe. Or to list the available captures, maybe. Or a Retained Image visualization issue, maybe. The Screwup List seems more finite, and therefore more manageable, somehow...
I see where you are coming from Jim, thanks for sharing. More direction to the failure is absolutely important! I hope my videos are helpful here as I draw your attention to a specific - and hopefully important - position and ask you to stop and think first. Even if you fail, after my explanations and reflections that may lead to productive failure.
Game analysis: yes, ideally we need more direction to precisely figure out what went wrong. A coach is especially helpful here. Then a coach can also give you training game positions on your specific weaknesses, as I gave those attacking positions to Dan and asked him to crush me on simultaneous games over a month. I let him try and practice. He failed a lot. But then we reflected on it. Then he crushed me in the end.
First. Love your content!!
Such lovely feedback, thank you!
I found Solveig to be a great communicator and it was a joy to hear her sharing her passion for the game of chess ♟️
I found it fascinating that she is not comfortable with competition in life and yet, her desire to improve and help others is so admirable. 👍
Thank you Dr Cann for recognizing this great talent in Solveig and bringing her to our attention.✅
Thank you for your kind thoughts! She is a great communicator indeed, the conversation just flowed so naturally and it was a joy listening to her.
That's too kind