All Magic in Conan Lore Part 1 Sorcery and Magic Practices
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In Character Introduction to Magic: • The Complete Guide to ...
My Old Conan Magic Video: • An Introduction to Mag...
Religious and Magic Orders Societies: hyboria.xoth.n...
Master List (Magic, Spells, etc)
Xoth: hyboria.xoth.n... Louhi:Louhi (Hyborian era, Conan foe) (marvunapp.com)
Vammatar: Vammatar (Conan foe) (marvunapp.com)
Game Canon Related Exiles: survivethis.ne...
Runic: forum.mongoosep...
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Necromancer: aoc.fandom.com...
Demonologist: aoc.fandom.com...
Book of Skelos PDF: anyflip.com/we...
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Heraldry: aoc.fandom.com...
Bear Shaman: aoc.fandom.com...
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Preist of Mitra: aoc.fandom.com....
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Dude, this has been my favorite topic, and a source of many questions and personal study on the magic systems in Conan. I’ve always wanted to look at things like how humans interact with magic in Conan like the differences between the magic of pelias vs the magic of Tsotha-lanti. In the story the scarlet citadel, tsotha is constantly using objects to perform his minor feats. He never seems to do anything of his own power or incantation. For example, tsotha uses things like the ring steeped in lotus juice, the dust found in the Stygian tomb, and the exploding orbs. Pelias on the other hand doesn’t use any objects to perform his magic. He raises shuggeli with just words, summons the sky beast with words and hand movements, and transforms into the eagle. Pelias does use the palanter, or “crystal ball”, but he insinuated that it’s not necessary for him to do so except that he doesn’t have enough time for greater Magics. So I’ve always wondered, how does magic work in this world? Even people like Thoth-Amon with the ring of set, he needed that for his power, yet it almost seemed like to be a sorcerer in Conan, the poisons and chemical or alchemical sciences are categoried as a sort of magic or subset of sorcery. It’s so intriguing.
I believe he says in another video, that the top most powerful magic users of this setting can only be as powerful as Doctor Strange. (Only, is a silly word to use, but I'm trying to explain the greatest extent of power).
This comment is the reason I'm writing the next episode on Alchemy and Mummery - thank you for this as I would have over looked it in the series otherwise!
@@GrimDarkHalfOff I'm jelly of ramoncruz1007 . lol
It might feel strange to you to speak about your personal life and situations, but a total stranger on the internet is made glad to hear about how your life is improving and hopes that it continues to do so.
Same, I feel weird asking, but hope all is well!
I read so many Conan comics as a kid without knowing much English. Didn't know I needed this video but I am excited to see it!
Have you seen the rest of his Conan works? They're very very good.
@@Washeek I'm binging it as we speak.
As a Christan the thing I love about Conan is that its a story of the sowrd against sorcery. In the secens that Conan allways fights against sorcery.
This is most definitely my favorite subject in Conan. I think Hyperborea has Witch Kings and Witch Queens who rule the land. Might be the only northern territory in Hyborea that venerates magic. I love the idea of Elder Magic, and I'm taking inspiration from these examples.
I’m working on homebrew elements for Mörk Borg, including an engaging magic system. Your videos on the Hyborian age are illuminating and I’m excited for this new series of videos.
F*** I needed this so much! I'm lifting this wholesale. This is the best loose rules application to a soft magic system that I've eve seen! It fits my setting and private rules so well.
Thank you!
May you be blessed by Mitra oh, Deathslayer.
GDHO: Dagon's version of immortality comes with fish sex.
Me: Oh, my God, that's disgusting! Immortality and fish sex? Where? Where can I find those?
GDHO: I don't know, one of those disgusting Dagon cults.
Me : Ugh, those disgusting Dagon cults! I mean, there's so many of them though! Which one?
maybe become dagon cult critic, there seems to be a market for rating fish sex.
Your intro to magic is one of my favorite videos. I’m glad you’re following it up. Been looking forward to this.
Man, I am so glad you did this one! I have been looking all over for this kind of lore overview.
Will be looking forward to learning more about the Magic in the Conan universe.
I love these deep dives man, keep the good work, All Gods and All Monsters series are precious sources for people like me who are new to Conan.
Hail dog brothers. Love your Conan lore videos. Hope all is well with you. ⚔️
Always a good day when a new Conan lore vid from Grim Dark drops. Glad to hear your doing well man.
Question: in many stories, the use and study of potions, poisons, and chemicals all seem to be typical studies of the wizards and sorcerers of Conan. Now is that because those things are considered magic or necessary for magic? Or is that a subset of studies for wizards and sorcerers but not necessarily tied to magic?
I think it's that potions and chemicals are good aids if you are a magician. Those who come from a scholarly background might have picked up chemistry and herbalism in their studies, while those who are more like shamans or witches can have it as a part of their tradition. I am sure many in the Hyborian age considers medicine or chemicals to be magical, because they don't understand it. An actual Sorcerer would of course know it's not magic, but useful skills to have. If you can scare the shit out of people without even using your magic (which can be tasking) the better.
I'm so happy to hear your treatments have been effective!
I loved all the witty side commentary on the whole explanation sprinkled throughout... I'd love to see more of these. Hope you're doing well and feeling better.
This has to be the simplest and most nuanced magic system I have ever come across. It the idea of Totem, Skill, and Patron as general approaches to “opening the door”; knock, unlock, or hire expensive help. The beauty is it almost explains every setting from any form of media. However, I would like to add a 4th option not covered due to it not really existing in Conan’s world.
You are the Door. You can access magic because it is part of your nature. It can even be broken down into four or five Archetypes: Monarch, Vezir, Champion, Craftsman, and Trickster. This
- Monarch: master and absolute ruler of their sphere of influence whether that be a realm/region or specialty. LOTR Galadriel and Melkor, and Hans Christian Andersen’s Ice Queen are notable examples. An undead king whose lands are dead and rotting while raising his dead subjects from the grave would be a Monarch archetype.
-Vezir: similar to Monarchs but limited in power and influence as well as lacking dominion over a region. This is pretty much Gandalf and some depictions of Merlin. Arguably, Harry Potter is this with a mixture of Totem (Wands) and Skill (learning to use it) thrown for good measure.
- Champion is pretty much being super human; being stronger, faster, more durable than a normal human. Maybe throw in an elemental theme or a healing factor. DC’s the Flash and Wonder Woman, Marvel’s Thor the Champion archetypes as well as Kratos.
- Craftsman are what it says on the tin, they make inherently magical stuff. These artifacts can be anywhere from beneficial and to outright malicious. The Dwarves from Norse Mythology and Hephaestus spring to mind as the Craftsman archetype.
- And the there is the Trickster Archetype. The lovable rogue, prankster, troublemaker, charlatan, and problem solver. They are the shapeshifters and illusionists, magicians using cunning and resourcefulness Definitely Loki, and GOW Atreus are Trickster Archetype.
This can even be mixed and matched. Sauron starts off as Vezir and becomes a Monarch and Craftsman, minoring in Champion. Jarith from the Labyrinth is a Monarch and Trickster. Sun Wukong (Monkey King) is Champion and Trickster.
Great job can't wait to see more.
We appreciate you!
Top shelf, Wonderful stuff. Stinks of sorcery!
Now were talkin. Not that i dont love your other content but this stuff is so good to lift to.
Mmm by crom keep the vids coming lad
Brilliant video mate.
Groovy Trinity of Sorcery from the Primal World of Conan! Awesome compilation of the Magic System, the Scholar Majors and how soft magic fits neat in such bloody epic of Cultural Diverse Worldbuilding! Specially in Lovecraftian Sense! xD Im already intrigued for each Schools and More! Lest be Magical! Yay! 🧙♂️🪄💖🔮✨
Atlast! I've been waiting to devour this!
Half off is fully on! Love ya bruddah, thanks for uploading!
In Conan Exiles, most of my characters were witches (necromancy, shamanism, mesmerism, enchanting and a bit of dream magic, all blent together into sort of "afterlife-tending witch") worshipping primarily mostly Yog and Derketo. I used to create them as Hyborians (Bossonians to be specific), but now I think I should perhaps try Hyrkanian (some sort of proto-Scythians or Cumans), as there, followers of supernatural arts might have greater opportunities. Although, witch coming from hyborian culture might have more interesting backstory as being outcast in her own home and eventually forced to flee.
I missed this, luckily notifications still work if only occasionally
Spectacular simply the best Conan material channel thank you for entertaining!:)
Thank you...stay well and may Crom favor you in your battles!
One thing I've always kind of liked in Conan when it comes to magic is that it's less a gamified magic system and it's more based on the beliefs of the people practicing it in that there are a few ways that they use it they are kind of sort of similar to unrelated disciplines but by and large are so vastly different that if they start explaining how they do it you will not confuse the two.
And from that the weird overlap that happens to where one sorcerer might be able to create flames that spray from his right hand meanwhile the other one that he is fighting is deconstructing things down into their base elements (think less periodic table and more earth, fire, wind, water) to create a gout of fire that is reaching towards his enemy (meanwhile they're both fighting because ideologically and from the perspective of their religions they are smiting the wicked). Meanwhile the townspeople that they are fighting over the metaphorical and possibly the literal soul of in this sorcerer duel are equally horrified and bewildered by what both of them are pulling and planning on killing whoever wins out of fear
I am glad to see you regain your health
Thanks for this Grimdark. Much appreciated.
You deserve lore-master status, the right to be wrong is human and your acknowledgement of such just means you are a Lore-Master that isn't a dick about it
Hail Set, you do amazing work and it is very much helpful in my own work as a meditation.
"Wow, dude. That natural rock arch going across the Canyon. Just collapsed like it was made of dust. That's so weird. Glad it didn't do it while we were crossing." Wizard. "Yeah, it was a coincidence, wasn't it?"😅
This is very interesting! But what about "dream magic"? 🤔
Check the last video I did before this one
I talk about it there too
I saw the video! And now I have another question...
If dream magic is so OP, then why does it fall into the category of "gently knocking on the door and asking permission to come in"? 🤔
@@pabloantoniomendozamartine6046it’s about the method of doing magic, not what the magic does.
Dark we are glad you are healing well and getting back to doing what you like and what we enjoy from you. Crom and the God Emperor bless you 🙏😁
he back
I love that your last video referenced Elric. Any chance you will go into that?
Amazing Vids!
Nice video. Makes you think about why wizards always cast fireball with what they have too go through to learn it .
All hail the king! Grimdark is back on it, time to cast some spells!!!
Still major fan of 'muscle wizard casts fist' school of arcane
"😂Wizard it open!"
I just had this idea come to mind, but what if the Frost Giant God Ymir, was slain by the Aesir and Vanir making the first gods with his blood such as Odin, and his brothers Vili and Vé seeing The Aesir and Vanir would be granted god like powers and would eventually quarrel over the frost giants blood leading to the first war between the Aesir and Vanir gods seeing how this happens in Norse mythology it's entirely possible.
Hello is it possible to get a video on Kull or Kull and Conans most reoccurring villains like Toth Amon Thulsa Doom and that Woman Villain that appears in Kull The Conqueror that also appears in comics of old lol or at least a humble mention of them please you are the best of all Conan content IMHO honestly sir thank you for your time! 😃👍
i wish we could get more spells in exiles... or some fireball type of magic to support the zombis
Have you ever looked into the Mythras ttrpg? It's got a lot of flexible magic systems to tailor to each campaign's setting, among other things, and the game has an implied sword and sorcery setting. It seems like it could mesh well with your capacity for worldbuilding.
Hell yeah!
Yes!!
YES!!!! HELL YESS!!!!!
27:30 I have the funny image of a looney toons esque sign being placed on both sides of the bridge that read: Warning Temporary Bridge will vanish soon. With everyone just ignoring it because they don't believe in magic, and surely this well constructed bridge won't vanish.
Do you think the Picts would ever practice other forms of magic, like necromancy, or ecomancy, or would they just shun everything that wasn't Jhebbal Sag patron heraldry or shamanism?
I'm knocking on your door today to talk about the greatness of The Snake Pope.
Have you heard The riddle of steel.?
What systems do you use for games I love your videos!
Depends on the players! And thanks!
I missed this sexy voice helping me sleep.
14:39 Never change Chief 😂
121st like!👍
Awesome video!🤘
Glad you’re doing more Conan content!😁
Keep up the awesome work!🤘😎🤘
Stay strong!💪😎
Stay awesome!🤘😎🤘
Whens the Belit video coming.
So, in D&D Terms, Wisdom Caster, Intelligence Caster, & Charisma Caster, respectively
Thoughts on Titans Conan Comics.
who was that guy he metioned who does ebberon lore? its my favorite setting.
When it comes to totems or skill magic, is it the Will of the individual or a divine spirt granting the boon?
Friendship is Magic. Magic is HERESY! Purge! Cleanse! KILL!
Zogar Sag a Pictish Shaman, was able to summon and control wild beast, also he knew some form of daemonolgy.
"You dared make the sign which only a priest of Jhebbal Sag dare make. Thunder rumbled through the black Mountain of the Dead and the altar-hut of Gullah was thrown down by a wind from the Gulf of Ghosts. The loon which is messenger to the Four Brothers of the Night flew swiftly and whispered your name in my ear. Your race is run. You are a dead man already. Your head will hang in the altar-hut of my brother. Your body will be eaten by the black- winged, sharp-beaked Children of Jhil."
"Who the devil is your brother?" demanded Conan. His sword was naked in his hand, and he was subtly loosening the ax in his belt.
"Zogar Sag; a child of Jhebbal Sag who still visits his sacred groves at times. A woman of Gwawela slept in a grove holy to Jhebbal Sag. Her babe was Zogar Sag. I too am a son of Jhebbal Sag, out of a fire-being from a far realm. Zogar Sag summoned me out of the Misty Lands. With incantations and sorcery and his own blood he materialized me in the flesh of his own planet. We are one, tied together by invisible threads. His thoughts are my thoughts; if he is struck, I am bruised. If I am cut, he bleeds. But I have talked enough. Soon your ghost will talk with the ghosts of the Dark Land, and they will tell you of the old gods which are not dead, but sleep in the outer abysses, and from time to time awake."
"He lived by magic, and somehow, he died by magic. - Conan about the fate of Zogar Sag. [Beyond the Black River]
Royal familly of Khouran the Askhaurian dynasty was definetly aware of existence of magic. as shown in "A Witch Shall Be Born" story.
At last, Crypta!
What was Akiro, from the Conan movies, considered as? Did it change in different versions?
While it’s important to note that the Conan movies use a different timeline than the main universe, Akiro falls under the shaman or witch doctor archetype. He seems to use toteming through tattoos and from there summon the elements to aid in healing which would then explain why he has to re-apply them
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I'm excited to play as Conan in MK1
🍊 was on Eppstein-island!
Wait, Shub is copyrighted? Why?
Me thinks some magic has been woven into these videos. And unlike spell weaving in Age of Conan this didn't cause the channel to crash. ?;- )
You can't say Shub-Niggurath on RUclips any more?
She who's name can not be spoke for legal reasons
I'm so stealing that for Acquistions Incorporated l