Diana Ross's Supreme Tragedy
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- It’s no surprise that Diana Ross was Motown’s biggest breakout star. After all, she clearly had the drive to make it to the top…and she wasn’t afraid to step on a few people on her way up the ladder. But no amount of ambition could save Ross from a life filled with scandal and heartbreak behind the scenes-from the shocking affairs and dark secrets, to the dire tragedy that nearly destroyed her.
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When I saw the part about how Diana and Berry Gordy mistreated Florence Ballard what came to mind was Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones and how their first manager Andrew Oldham sided with Mick and Keith to destroy Jones who like Florence Ballard was the founder of the band. Creepy isn't it?
yes but it was mick and keith on their own that destroyed brian. The things they did to him were just evil.
Unbelievable. Florence was tossed aside like an empty tube of toothpaste. Personally, I love Diana's voice but she's always had a diva-like ego. Rest peacefully, Florence 🕊🙏❤
I totally agree with you. I loved the Supremes and Diana's voice. But they way she treated Florence was horrible, and was a big turn off for me.
Diana was ruthless in her climb to the top. Berry Gordy thought Flo was too heavy , especially in comparison to Diana.
Poor Flo started drinking and she spiraled down to her untimely death.
Berry Gordy was not married according to Berry's wife Raynoma when he and Diana began their relationship if you read Raynomas book "Motown Berry and me"
It wasn't Berry Gordy and Diana who caused Florence downwards spiral from alcoholism and that ex con felon husband Tommy Chapman
Rest peacefully to Mary as well.
Diana Ross was willing to sacrifice everything and everyone for her own success. She reaped what she sowed.
she has millions and lives a life of luxury. I don't see how that is reaping anything.
LET'S JUST HOPE IT'S THE TRUTH AND NOT SOME MISCONSTRUED FACTS PUT TOGETHER....Unless we were there - we will never know.
No she didnt Diana's career soared
Slept her way to the top.
@@KarmicSalt Material things aren't everything in life as you may one day learn.
When her group's name was changed to Diana Ross And The Supremes, it was all over for the other two ladies.
I was a teen in 1962. Thanks to a couple of Top 40 hits, I became a Mary Wells fan. It bugged the HELL out of me to see all of the 'good stuff' being given to the less versatile, reedy little voice of Diana Ross. Even now, in my mid-70s, I have a hard time listening to my Supremes records without feeling creeped out a bit. I met Mary Wilson at one of her solo shows, back in the 1990s. What a sweet, humble, gracious lady! Find her autobiography and read it! It gave me a whole new perspective on the whole Motown story.
Diana Ross was traumatized when she was fourteen years old on her way to the grocery store she was robbed of her food stamps
Sadly a lot of wonderfully talented people like Florence are tossed over and left behind by ruthless management and fame obsessed divias
I’ve never thought much about her but now that I watched this video I realize why I was getting negative vibes just knowing anything about her. She really wasn’t all that special as she thought she was. Most of all the situation with her first daughter is disgusting. 👎
The baby boomers know about her and remember when all of this happened. There is more T about her during the early years of Motown. David Ruffin, from the Temptations, hated her.
Amazing how her glamorous image hid such an ugly nature. What she did to Florence Ballard was unconscionable. She _never_ tried to help her. Without Florence and Mary, Diana may have never seen stardom.
Dirty Diana was about miss Ross.
Yes it was. Anything he was, she made him.
Wow, we never know…. what’s really going on behind all the smiles!🤷♀️ GREAT JOB WITH THIS VIDEO!!!👏
It’s So Interesting to see/hear that Hollywood and The Music Industry has been Full of Wicked, Horrible, and Narcissistic people way back in the days of Diana Ross- I would Dare Say though that it’s been that way from the Very Beginning- But, since I grew up hearing my Mom singing Diana Ross’s songs, It still makes me sad to learn that she too was one of “Those” types of people- Anyways, Im SO Glad that I found this channel- Every video that I’ve seen so far has been Incredibly Interesting and Very Well Done! So, Please Keep up the Great Work Factinate!!
no one in Hollywood or the music industry has done anything new. You can find backstabbing kissy butts at mcdonalds
2 of the best singles of the Supremes, Nathan Jones and Stoned Love ... both without Diana Ross.
Ballard was much prettier and probably a better person.
Prettier prettiest is a matter of opinion and being pretty didnt make the hits
i always thought Florence and Mary were both prettier than Diana.
Unlike "BONY @$$ DIANA", it was known that Flo had "SHAPE"
She screwed over the other two singers and i never liked her.
I definitely would not call her one of the greatest singers of all time. She had an unusual voice and was definitely a great show woman.
Such a great channel..👍🏼
Thanks so much!
I liked Diana Ross and the Supremes, but not solo....
I saw her in concert and she really didn’t “wow.” Her clothes were beautiful but she didn’t really sing very many songs.
Oh man!! Look at those HUGH hairstyles. Love em and loved their singing.
They set the Elegance of Black Fashion for sure.
I think this video is below par. Every other history of The Supremes that I have seen usually notes that Florence's problem with drinking began after she was raped. I'm not saying she was not hurt by Diana's machinations, but it wasn't the full story.
One year we were slow in getting our Houston Rodeo concert tickets and the only tickets we could get were Diana Ross. I have to admit at first I was a little disappointed. But it turns out she put on a fantastic show and I enjoyed it as much as any of them. She was a born performer. She commanded the stage!
That was great! Thank you 🙏🏼
I've never heard anything good about her at all over the years.
How did Ross get into the Hollywood rock n roll hall of fame, she didn’t sing rock n roll?
This episode was really well done. Never knew she had anorexia and problems with alcohol.
I was at the Kennedy Center, here in D.C., to see a play. Diana was also performing that night. Her fans were all decked out and quite glamorous.
Obviously, she still has a huge fan base.
💚✌🏽Can’t feel sorry for Billionaires. Sorry.
Wow…don’t people ever get tired of hearing the same old stories over and over again?
She of the TINNY VOICE and modest talent.
Um, no. Ross will not be remembered for being one of the greatest singers of our time. She'll be remembered for what she was; someone with a weak voice who caught the attention of a powerful man.
I am going to say... She might not have had a strong voice as you say, but she held a note and her music was pleasant and her voice was able to hit musical notes required. I dont know about her Diva side.. I focus on music
I suppose we just hear and enjoy the music and never know the background stories and I liked Diana Ross but actually my favourite Supremes song is Stoned Love with Jean Terrell as lead vocalist.
ouch!
Her voice was great
Her voice was ok - not great. We know how she got famous.
I never realized she was so selfish and evil.
I had no idea gene Simmons was with cher and diana. I was a kid then.
I never really follow famous peoples lives.
Urrghh! She had an awful taste in men! 🤦🤔
@@carolinejohnson22 my mom hated Gene because he treated women like garbage
I knew he was with Cher. I didn't know he dated Diana afterwards.
I can't stand Gene Simmons. Always thought he was Gay.
Diana Ross and The Supremes were the first records I listed to of Soul singers. Loved their records. I liked her as a solo artist too.
No wonder that Ronda lookedlike Barry,I can look at her and she looked different than the rest of her sibblings.
well ross wound up with the accolades, the money, and a life of luxury. Seems like karma took a break when it came to her
Living legend, ok. Greatest singer of all time (or one of them) not so
A true 👑
Diana Ross is The Boss her pass will always haunt her
Diana's life was not filled with scandal
"Lady Sings The Blues" was released in *1975,* So add to mispronunciations of people's or group's names, a *total lack of research!* 😡👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
LSTB WAS released in 1972. Mahogany was released in 1975.
Dianna is a "C"
Florence was not the lead singer nor was the Primettes/Supremes Florence group it was Paul Williams who recruited Diana
Diana Ross had flaws as we all do. The overall impression l get is she got through them better than the average celeb. Some of it was careful calculation. Some of it was luck. It's nice to know she is still with us, still performing, and she still looks fabulous. It doesn't get any better than that.
No!
It absolutely doesn’t!
I believe we all wore the grooves out of her 45s.
What a Spectacular Accomplishment!
while Florence is dead and gone so who cares what ross did to her, right? smh
@@KarmicSalt I care. But there is nothing we can do about it. Death is final. And we can't know who was behind her demise. She does have a small role in her own troubles. I've heard it said that it is not as much what happens to you, as it is your reaction to what happens to you, that makes the difference. It would be nice to have a video about Florence's life showing her story and her gifts.
She raised some beautiful, talented children. Also, don't forget, Michael Jackson selected her to help raise his children after his death.
Diana Ross was just more awesome a performer and personality than the others at Motown. Not to fail to mention, a harder worker. All being said. Diana Ross is one of the most successful women in the music industry and is and will forever be a icon and legend. Nothing can or will change that at this point in time.
I have a whole different view of her, but to each their own. Just one example of a more 'awesome' Motown performer in MY view would be Levi Stubbs. His performance on records is actually capable of inspiring awe.
@Polyphemus47 Oh no! I can't leave out Levi Stubbs from the Tops. He is one of my favorite male singers from Motown. A powerful voice. May he R.I.P. He always seems like a down to earth cool man. There are many great singers and performers, that's why I try to remember to say "one of." With Diana, I think people are still viewing her from the 1960s. That's more than 50 years ago. She is no longer 24 or even 44 yrs old. She has grown as a person, in my opinion. I just feel some of DR's detractors are also envious of her success. I'm fine with others' views and opinions of her seem more personal, and often, it's based on something they may have heard about her from decades ago. We all have done some things and behaved, not so nicely. Should we be held to that for the rest of our lives? I haven't heard anything new in terms of negative behavior about Diana that mirrors behavior we heard of her earlier years, in many, many years. I keep seeing videos recycling things from 40 or more years ago. I do respect your opinion, though .Sorry for the long reply.🤣
Good morning l find it strange that people who know very little about music are always the first to comment. Dianna Ross was an average singer who through cunning and deception became lead singer of the Supremes. David Ruffin during a live performance was hitting notes she struggled with even though the key was adjusted to suit her. The more knowledge l acquire of the music industry the less l want to hear of people like Dianna and Berry. RIP Florence Ballard.
Silberstein's surname correctly rhymes with "fine", not "been".
The photo at 5:19 isn’t even Florence, that was Florence’s replacement Cindy birdsong. If you’re going to make this kind of video you have to dot your i’s and cross your t’s
Lets not hold our breath until they correct the error.
Marrying one man while pregnant by another. Classy.
Nope. I got sucked into subscribing to your channel,… and now I break free.
Far out that her music affected my life so much and then she named a baby the same name as me. My step dad bought the album just to tease me with the song Love Child, He would play it and say, Thats you.
Diana has a great voice, plus an excellent acting career. She was a puppet to Barry Gordy. He was in charge of their careers. And all the other Motown acts.
Timing honey. It’s nice to have a real person as narrator, but you need pauses occasionally. Breathe.
The narrator trails off at the end of each sentence. It’s annoying.
Diana Ross has a very great voice, in my opinion,very beautiful eyes,soothing voice,very sexy as well,she is a go getter,and she wasn't the only one in that group to make mistakes do your research and stop putting the blame on just one person.Love you miss Ross forever ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
0:52 is her eldest sister
That’s Diana
Those eyes!
All of the Supremes were pretty.
Florence was the prettiest.😢
She had been into Michael Jackson at one time too. His song Dirty Diana is about her.
Never liked her. Never liked her music
It's pretty obvious that the girl wasnt progeny of the white guy 🙄
She used men, most of them Married!
She used anyone who she felt could " make her a star".
Shecwas a User,....
Exactly WHY would you tell your six year old child.
Yes, I heard she waited for many years later.
That doesn’t make it any less easier, she was a 6 year old.
She wasn’t stupid, she more than likely blamed herself.
What a torturous nightmare at any age.
Especially, with DNA being in it’s infancy, if I remember correctly.
Helping a working mother of might as well been mother of 2 considering the drunk abusive (Richard) she was sole supporting.
At that time ‘96 there was a chance in 1 out 2,500 being correct.
Not crazy about her voice. Good video. Just try not to drop the ends of your sentences. 😮
1:44 I don’t care 🤷🏼 if anyone does or doesn’t believe.
Destiny is chosen before birth.
The Brewsters is enough to prove that obstacle.
To come out on top!
Is most Excellent!
Her heartbreaks totally 💯% fail in comparison to all of her accomplishments!
A+ ⭐️ Diana, you go to the head of the Class!
Mispronunciations abound here! Earning a thumbs-down from me! The group name, Primes correctly rhymes with "Times" and Wilson & Ballard's outfit was to be the Prime-ettes(Primettes).
What a load of self-victimizing nonsense.
Ballard screwed herself out of a brilliant opportunity for a prosperous, longtime career.
Neither Diana nor Gordy made Flo miss concerts, interviews, recordings and rehearsals. They didn't make her start fights whenever she did actually show up.
No one held down Flo or cast her aside.
Again, she screwed herself.
The really sad part is that even Flo's "fans" don't care about her.
They just USE HER to spite Diana, the woman whom they have neither the talent nor work ethic to even aspire to be.
Pathetic.lol
Dianna never had more talent than Florence. She and Berry just ruthlessly did Florence dirty. Dianna was known to even open her arms during live performances to hide the faces of Mary and Flo after Berry made her the lead singer. Even the writers at Motown were instructed to arrange songs to suit Dianne voice. RIP Florence Ballard. Marvin Gay and many others said Florence Ballard was the best singer of the three Supremes.
I thought it was going to cover the theory that Diana Ross is *Michael Jackson’s real mother*
Ho ho ho.
She was a good singer/entertainer bot not great…:that would be Prince, or Whitney .Sorry but truth
Aretha.
@@catemccool4100 Tina
Good morning the world knows Aretha and Dionne were better than Dianna. Gladys and Tina were all better singers than Dianna. She was well marketed etc by Berry Gordy. Thstis all never was a great singer.
@@keithcampbell6806 Well said!
Yes agreed
Ross trash
Ah, wrong. She married Arne Naess in a glamorous wedding in Switzerland. She and Silverstein went to Vegas and got married.
She was carrying her BOSS'S baby! 🤢
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