Tangmere's 29mph Blast Up Hemerdon - Full Regulator !!
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- It's not often you see an angry Bullied ! Or in this case, a furious Bullied ! This was one of the best performances from 2014 (07/09/14) and without doubt the loudest Southern loco, I have ever heard.
Enjoy !!
Best unassisted steam performance I've ever seen over the banks. Fantastic.
1948. 34020 with 10 bogies, took over a western express (that was due to be double headed) @ last minute when engines derailed at N Rd. Engine man was Bill Lodge, 23 late start off Plymouth . It must have sounded similar. I expect firebox was kept filled right up knowing them junction men, with white feather. Fireman was chap called Melhuish. Western men travelled up on footplate with them, marvelled at the full head of steam & boiler full of water. Never had seen anything like that with their ancient kit.
Was right time St David’s.
Just another ordinary day out for a West Country. 🙂
You can smell and practically taste the smoke belching out of that locomotive. Magnificent.
Simply breathtaking video and performance from a Southern loco which I had never rated too highly, but I do now I've seen what they are really capable of! The fireman must have been throwing everything he could at the firebox and it looked as if most of the fire was going straight up the chimney! Thanks for a great video.
When I was in secondary school in Woking, we were right next to the main line and this engine along with many many others to rattle pass the school and the famous one being The Bournemouth Belle, which always came by at 1pm. We waited for it to seem who was pulling it
Happy memories.
Awesome, sheer brute power on show there. Very enjoyable to watch. Thanks for posting
Dave Howe Glad you enjoyed it. I, most certainly did !
Great colours coming out of that chimney!
Never tire of watching this clip. A thunderous performance from one of Mr. Bulleid's finest.
The engine hasn't been the same since this day ! Hopefully it's back next year.
Hope so. Can't beat a bit of spam. :)
One of the really impressive performances...
Chapeau to the crew..
Wow! Excellent footage. What a beast!
Lovely shot plenty of sound smoke and steam, THANK YOU
Still a fantastic piece of film all these years later, and showing what a Bulleid engine could really do on a dry, oil-free rail. Probably the fastest ascent of Hemerdon by steam in this century? It certainly puts many others' efforts in the shade. Just brilliant! Thank you.
The Duke has the record, 40mph I think.
Not quite the fastest ,71000 snd 46233 have been faster but still a wonderful performance from the Bulleid .
71000 did 35 , 46233 33mph . Still a superb climb from 34067 .
And with steam to spare too, truly magnificent..........................
+Eve Ann Wallis A one off performance in today's climate, possibly !
+Marsh Steam Videos™ Read Cecil Alan's book on the 1948 loco exchanges and you will find that this is not a one-off performance. Bulleid pacifics can really climb IF they can get traction. The problem was/is mainly that traction was not predictable, sometimes there even in the wet, sometimes hopeless even in the dry. What the GWR contingency may find hard to swallow is that this it true of 4-6-0s too, though to a lesser degree. A Bulleid in form that is gripping is almost impossible to trump with other British steam, at a cost, high coal and water consumption. OVB had a typically cavalier attitude to this saying the high coal consumption meant that his locos were doing a lot of work!
Sorry I meant in today's climate. No doubt similar performances were a regular occurrence in the good old days.
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Wow awesome i wonder if a Castle ever matched that or even a King. Incredible sound.
Wow, great shot, tons of smoke and steam and amazing sound!
It's an amazing contrast to locos of the same power classification with the same load or less struggling so much on Hemerdon Bank. Just look at Nunney Castle taking the same train over the bank, it basically almost stalled!
According to the noise of the exhaust system, the regulator is fully open, and the "cran de marche" are also set up to way forward. That means the engine is using a lot of water and coal to generate enough steam to feed the cylinders with no pressure loss in the boiler...
It's Very dangerous aswell..
British First Why is it?
Being pedantic, but most mainline locos are driven on full regulator all the time and the power delivery is adjusted with the cut-off. This gives the best efficiency because the steam isn't throttled on its way to the cylinders but no more steam is used than necessary. In the video the driver is probably using wide open regulator and more than 50% cut-off, hence the noise.
(Roger Cantwell) Yes, that's true. It would be silly not to use full regulator for a bank like this, and whatever cutoff is needed.
I reckon Tangmere was in full gear for this ascent simply on the grounds of the pull required and the speed it was done at. The steam rate would have been absolutely vast and neither the boiler nor the fireman could have kept it up for more than a few minutes but of course that was all that was needed.
Music to my ears. Thanks 👍
What an awesome soundtrack especially with earphones
Great performance from the both of you.
atomiswave1971 Thanks, though the crew deserve the all the credit for that run !
Just look at old girl bringin 'em up the hill! Wonderful!
Fantastic, I love this video. Brings back happy memories as a youngster.
Amazing display Liam and quite unrecognisable as the same loco you captured on the ill fated Cotswolds and Sapperton tour! Great footage. Thanks, Ken
+Ken Browne Cheers, Ken. This was an incredible performance from Tangmere. When the engine is on song, it's a real performer. Thanks for all your comments. Glad you enjoyed the videos. Regards, Liam
Needs a good crew to get the best from an engine eh? Lovely scene, thank you.
Now that's what you call steamagedon!
Extraordinary performance!
Lovely sound.
Thanks. It also makes a really interesting comparison with your equally enjoyable upload of Britannia climbing Hemerdon at a similar speed. Truly, a study in radically different draughting concepts, not to mention the 4-beat per wheel revolution of a 2-cyl vs. the 6-beat of a 3-cyl.
+Brian Smethwick I think Tangmere was at least 8 or 9 mph quicker, if I remember correctly from the posted performance logs. The sound from Brit, was quite thunderous and it could be heard from a few miles away.
I timed how long it took the nine coaches to pass under the bridge. Tangmere was 13 seconds and Brittania was 15 seconds so Brittania was doing roughly 26 mph.
She’s on fire
I remember being at the water cress line and 34007 Wadebridge letting off its regulator , the noise was bliss
Very nice clip Liam....You just know it's 'Tangmere' with that tell-tale heavy black smoke erupting from it's Smoke stack...Nice one...Steve.
***** Cheers, Steve. It's definitely one of the, Spamcan's trademark's.
Wow... Amazing
Man I can smell it!, that or I just burned my dinner.
Very well driven Sirs !!!!!!! Thats the way to do it.
Can anyone tell me why the exhaust changed quite suddenly from white-ish to fairly dark?
Superb sounds!
+formidable38 That's when the fireman starts shoveling lots of coal. Coal doesn't burn well until it heats up. The fresh, cold coal emits lots of soot, which colours the steam dark grey.
+BoilerRoom4 Thanks.
+formidable38 The white "exhaust' that you saw was excess steam blowing off through the safety valves, as soon as the boiler pressure dropped below 250psi the valves closed and all you can see then is the exhaust which is a mix of used (exhaust) steam from the 3 cylinders and the hot gases and smoke from the firebox which passes through the boiler tubes to the smoke box where the mixing takes place.
Because it was moving upwards, thereby using more power and due of pressure on engine, it became whitish to dark.
Probably pulled the dampers in a fair bit, no way was enough coal put on that quick to cause that much smoke.
The benefits of the best boiler around.
Not forgetting a willing driver and fireman.
I had to look twice to be sure they weren't flames coming out of the chimney! I don't think I have ever heard that sort of noise from a Bulleid.
Looked like fire on top of the train when it comes near the bridge
Fabulous.
Yes if they can keep their feet they can do anything ,these locomotives
No smoke blocking driver's view there! Cracking video!
Good old tangmere
Fantastic!!!
Great video, was it that some of the fire went straight out of the chimney and odd bits rested on the casing? It looked like there was a small fire on the casing, I know that these Southern Pacifics were rebuilt because of fire problems.
I thought that too!
A truely fantastic performance from the bullied crew! Just makes me wonder why so many other steam locomotives which are 'on paper' have superior performance stats can't blitz it like Tangmere just did. I've seen plenty of vids and in person of Castles and Kings really struggling up this grade, No more than 15mph. Is it a case of having the right crew who really know the ins and outs of some locos and not others? I just watched a clip a Duchess of Sutherland, not struggling par say but having a fight on it hands. On paper thats things a beast, it should easily match a west country class. But here we are.
To put it in context 6024 has done it at a similar speed before with ten coaches, you also have to factor in crews, signal checks etc still quite impressive tho.
What a sound - fantastic video! I would love to use the audio in this for one of my future videos please featuring model SpamCans. Will you allow me permission?
it could see into the future...what it was going to do in 2015 and it was furious about it
WAS SHE ON FIRE????!!
Do you remember what date this was filmed on please? I did one of the Royal Duchy runs with Tangmere last year and had a similarly impressive ascent of Hemerdon but I haven't seen any shots of the date in question.
limeyfox Sunday 7th September 2014.
I was travelling on the train and she certainly went well. Bill Warriner took over to drive from Plymouth to Bristol and after a tricky start out of Plymouth she got into her stride with an early arrival at Exeter. Talking to Bill during the Exeter stop he said that it was very difficult trying to stop her slipping as we left the platform at Plymouth.
Roger Marsh There was about 30 + people on the bridge at Hemerdon and many were comparing the run up the bank, to the likes of King's & Castles ! It was the loudest Southern loco, I have ever heard !
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NICE !!!
Was that fire ?
Newbie question: Is that diesel or coal? (Great video by the way.)
A diesel powered steam engine lol ! No, it's a coal powered British steam loco. Thanks for watching.
Got a lot of waves
Well donee that stoker111
ONE OF THE LAST STEAM ENGINES I SAW AT HINTON ADMIRAL STATION WAITNG TO PICK PASSENGERS AND HEADING TOWARDS SOUTHAMPTON WAS 34021 DARTMOOR,I DONT KNOW WHY BUT I HAD A DEEP AFFECTION FOR THIS ONE,I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF SHE HAS BEEN SAVED AND RESTORED I DO HOPE THAT SHE WAS NOT BROKEN UP,SHE WAS USED A LOT BETWEEN BOURNEMOUTH AND WATERLOO.
+nigel needham Nigel, I'm sorry to say that 34021 didn't survive, despite being one of the last active. The numerically closest of her 20 surviving sisters are 34016 Bodmin and 34023 Blackmore Vale. 'My' loco was 34037 Clovelly which once took my grandmother and me from Southampton to Waterloo (Clovelly was withdrawn in the same month as 34021 Dartmoor and, sadly, also didn't survive).
Very cool video. I'm not really familiar with this... What is an angry bullied?
Also if you don't mind me asking, what country is this in? I have never seen a Steam Engine like this.
It was like a tiny minor, really struggling to pull those few cars along through the countryside. Even the train whistle sounded like a little baby whistle. Very Cute!!
A 'Bullied' is how we describe this locomotive. It's also the name of the locomotive designer....aka Oliver Bullied, chief mechanical engineer of the Southern Railway. In terms of what you've just seen, the locomotive has climbed one of the steepest railway gradients in the U.K at impressive rate of speed for it's class specification. The engines are known for a soft exhaust sound but not in this case. Hope this helps !
@@MarshSteamVideosTM Thank You for the full explanation. Love the railroads and there's always something new to learn. Great video. I didn't realize it was going up such a steep grade. I'll check out your other videos.
we can already guess this is the tea sipping country of UK due to how its radically different it is
@@MarshSteamVideosTM Please excuse my pedantry, but I hope our friend from elsewhere didn't run away with the idea that anyone/anything is being bullied!😋 Oliver Vaughan Snell would be mortified to think so . . .
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I recall watching these 'beasts' thundering through Woking when I was a young teenager, in the twilight days of British steam - when almost all locos were filthy but had such character. Thank you for posting that spectacle.
Did these types of loco replace the Kings and castles on the west country mainlines?
+streamleazefishhouse A remark like that would get you lynched if you were anywhere near GW fans :-). Having said that, these locos were regular, but not frequent, runners over this route for the purpose of route familiarisation for the crew if the Southern route to Exeter via Okehampton was blocked.
:) I was watching a documentary and it seemed to imply the above statement. I understand the southern railway had the odd route in Devon. :) This is when BR took over in the 50s.
Did it catch fire or was its using coal that gave off orange smoke.
It's possibly the partial sunlight shining through the exhaust.
That makes sense don't get me wrong but, around 1:37 onwards around the boiler are looks like flames! but your suggestion could be correct.
It could also be fireglow, though you only usually see that in darker light.
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Remarkable.... probably well over 2000 dbhp!!
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HughFromAlice Quite possibly, Hugh. Was an unforgettable performance.
+HughFromAlice A fairly careful calculation shows that if the speed is steady the edbhp is about 2050. There *is* a slight deceleration and the effect is quite large so I'd estimate the edbhp as 1900 or so. From the sharpness of the exhaust and the performance itself the engine is probably in full gear and the steam rate about 37,000 lb/hr, which is vast. A glorious thrash but I doubt if the loco or the fireman could keep it up for very long. It would be interesting to know what the speed was at the bottom of the bank.
Rosie6857 Thanks for the interesting reply. It just shows the capacity of Bulleid's pacifics... and this is just a light pacific! As you say.... a glorious thrash :-)
Cor........
These make strange chuff sounds
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Urmmmmm what?
Steam fantasy
Great shot, my Morris Minor would do better than that mind you, but in hindsight not towing 300 tonnes !
Need a lot more black smoke & also a lot of fire out of the stack
I can’t believe it was on fire they should have stopped him right away