I Put Road Tires on My Gravel Bike

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  • I converted my Giant Revolt 2 gravel bike into a road bike. The Schwalbe One (30mm) tubeless tires have made my bike so much faster!
    New Tires, Schwalbe One tubeless 30mm alnk.to/4qFgcCc
    Old Tires www.giant-bicycles.com/us/cro...
    00:00 Intro
    00:51 The competitors
    01:29 The three tests
    02:45 Test #1 - Rolling test
    03:07 Test #2 - Flat road
    03:33 Test #3 - Hill climb
    03:57 Recap
    04:30 Tubeless tire tip
    05:21 My recommendation
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  • @Fenderprj182
    @Fenderprj182 2 года назад +47

    The two wheelsets is exactly what I do. I just have the one bike and switch out the wheels from what terrian I am riding. The 2nd wheelset is definitely cheaper than a 2nd bike.

    • @kerbodynamicx472
      @kerbodynamicx472 2 года назад +4

      Would you think it is a good idea to buy budget aero wheels from Aliexpess (like Elite wheels) as a road wheel set?

  • @Dieter.Reuter
    @Dieter.Reuter Год назад +4

    I love your results! Great video, thanks for sharing.
    That's the reason why I'm using two sets of wheels for my gravel bike (a 2019 Specialized Diverge Comp). Stock wheels (DT Swiss 470db) changed to 28mm Conti GP5000 road tires, which makes the bike extremely fast for long road trips on tarmac. And another new set of wheels (DT Swiss GR1600 Spline 25db) for gravel rides with WTB Nano 40C tires, these are so great for off-road tracks. Result: two bikes in one! Swap in 2 minutes.😏

  • @Snippetswork
    @Snippetswork 2 года назад +36

    Everytime he says " Schwalb" something in my German Heart dies. Its Schwalbe not Schwalb. Like its Porsche and not Porsch.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад +3

      Ayyy sorry 😢

    • @Megatronic445
      @Megatronic445 4 месяца назад +4

      Shame on you Mitchel...I don't know If I can like EVER watch you again... :/

    • @BennyMcFly
      @BennyMcFly Месяц назад +2

      How dare he mispronounce something not in his native language! The horror!

    • @agrmbl
      @agrmbl 4 дня назад

      Just get a Mitchelin tire instead. :)

  • @marceloaranguizpasche7826
    @marceloaranguizpasche7826 Год назад

    Very nice video! Simple but effective! Thank you.

  • @Robert-ce2bj
    @Robert-ce2bj Год назад

    This was very helpful!

  • @blakehosler3662
    @blakehosler3662 2 года назад

    great video mate! Researching what gravel bike im going to get and this was a great help to me.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад

      Glad to help, good luck on your search!

  • @genghisbunny
    @genghisbunny 3 года назад +4

    Yes, so absolutely true to my own experience. In my case it was with an ancient, heavy 90s hybrid bike, but going to narrower, smooth rolling tyres made a huge improvement to rolling resistance. I've never looked back.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  3 года назад +1

      Pretty amazing what a large difference the tires can make-it’s definitely opened my eyes!

    • @bryanotero123
      @bryanotero123 2 года назад

      @@MitchBoyer i just had these installed in one wheel and waiting for my other wheel to get set up. Super excited.

  • @18MRpsi
    @18MRpsi Год назад

    Love it. Good job 👍

  • @lindenbaum9448
    @lindenbaum9448 2 года назад +17

    Nice video! Wider tires with the same pressure as narrower tires usually tend to be stiffer. That is probably why you felt more cushion with Schwalbe.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад +1

      Oh interesting! Good to know, thanks ✌️

  • @coreyreeder3549
    @coreyreeder3549 2 года назад +1

    Funny and informative. Subscribed 👍

  • @Nobodyatallman
    @Nobodyatallman 3 года назад +11

    You seriously motivate me so much on my camera work. Also your story telling is amazing. Just ya, you’re amazing.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  3 года назад +2

      Thanks dude! Keep up the good work, you’re killing it 🤘

  • @christianlilleb451
    @christianlilleb451 2 года назад

    Great video.. thanks

  • @attisthecat
    @attisthecat Год назад +3

    Fun video. I looked at Strava difference between beefy 42c gravel tire, and 25c road. Difference on longer rides 65miles for example. about 20 to 30 min. I basically felt i was going 5mph slower on gravel tires. Most noticeable when going slower, on flats and climbs. Also starting out speeds were slower with heavier, knobby tires of course.
    But... the ride quality, and feel of the wider gravel tires sometimes easily outweigh longer ride times. I now ride on 28c, because I mostly ride roads, and happy medium to ride on 80psi. vs 50psi on 42c, or 90-100psi on 25c.

  • @sephiroth127
    @sephiroth127 2 дня назад +1

    Next video suggestion by Mitch: I put gravel tires on my road bike :-)

  • @shin6997
    @shin6997 Месяц назад

    thanks I had the same bike, definitely need this

  • @blinzi69
    @blinzi69 Год назад +12

    I am using 35mm Schwalbe G-One RS and its almost as fast as my road bike on tarmac and has enough grip to be handling well on gravel while also being fast!

    • @DR_1_1
      @DR_1_1 5 месяцев назад

      There are many versions of the Schwalbe G-One, from RS Super Race to Allround... how do they wear on asphalt?

    • @3811eric
      @3811eric 2 месяца назад +3

      True. But if you want all out for the road and smooth asphalt surface then you can't beat the Conti GP 5000 TLR or Pirelli P Zero TLR. I would go for 32mm and not less than 32mm for Gravel rims. Contis or Pirellis will give you the new world on your gravel bike on the road! Cheers.

    • @sean9820
      @sean9820 28 дней назад

      ​@@3811ericwhat if my wheels only have a max of 60 psi?

  • @SimonCurrey
    @SimonCurrey 10 месяцев назад

    I am running 40mm Challenge Getaways TLR they seem as fast. The rolling resistance tests rate them as in the same league as 32mm Continental 5000. I have a spare front wheel with Maxxis Ravager for when it is muddy. All works fine,

  • @jessederiksen
    @jessederiksen День назад

    I put road tires (WTB ThickSlick 2.1 Comp Tire, 29") on my Trek Marlin 7 mtb. I ride mostly road and it made a huge difference.

  • @AlistairLattimore
    @AlistairLattimore 2 года назад +3

    My Trek Domane SL5 came with Bontrager R1 Hardcase. Swapping over to Conti GP5000 tubeless saved 130gm on each tire and 130gm on each tube. I can run them at 70-80psi, they feel much nicer and are hands down faster - such a good upgrade.

    • @NYGiants4Life
      @NYGiants4Life 7 месяцев назад

      I bought one in 2021. Best bike I ever owned. I kept the tires it came with on. I rather burn them out before I swap them. 😂

  • @socaljoe
    @socaljoe 2 года назад

    I have the exact same schwalbe tires (not pro) and run 60psi also. I moved from 28mm tuber gatorskins and the difference was so much more cushy. Night & Day difference

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад

      glad to hear it, thanks for watching!

  • @tonywatson8101
    @tonywatson8101 2 года назад +2

    2 bikes - Cannondale Topstone, GT GTR (Mk.1 GT Grade). Both weigh about the same and have the same groupset. I prefer the Topstone to the GTR, but my GTR rides are always faster for some reason. Long suspected it was down to the tyres - Hutchinson Override 35mm on the GT, WTB Nano 40mm on the Topstone. The Nano's are super knobbly across the profile, whereas the Overrides have an almost slick centre section. Offroad the Nanos are great, but onroad they feel sluggish. This video confirms my suspicions. Time for the Topstone to get some faster tyres 👍🚲

    • @danielpapukchiev3754
      @danielpapukchiev3754 2 года назад

      my topstone is also getting some new wheels with some new tyres so it can swap between the 2 wheelsets and the turbo

  • @levipace1035
    @levipace1035 2 года назад

    Great vid! If Marissa asks, I'll just blame you when I buy a Giant revolt 2!

  • @isitrachelorj3953
    @isitrachelorj3953 2 года назад +2

    You do a nice job. Get another set of wheels, that goes for everybody. I ride my cross bikes with road tires all the time. Always have, never get dropped - least not below 32ish mph. Wheels are cheaper than top-notch rigs.

  • @ds94703
    @ds94703 2 года назад

    I will probably do that when my road bike dies, then use the Revolt as a road bike only. In the mean time I just have to put up with the extra resistance to get to the trails!

  • @farikkun1841
    @farikkun1841 2 года назад +1

    your video quality is good, you will go big soon.
    what about road bike vs gravel bike w/ road tires? rn i ride mtb but still miss rb feels, if gravel bike w/ road tires aint that slower compared to rb, i will try gravel

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад

      Thanks! The gravel bike with road tires is just about as fast as my carbon road bike. If I put some deep section wheels on the carbon bike, the difference would probably be even smaller.

  • @magaman6353
    @magaman6353 Год назад +1

    Actually, you save about double the weight difference in the tire's weight because of angular momentum in addition linear momentum. (tires rotate). So if road tires weigh 2 lbs less than gravel tires, you save 4 lbs effectively. And of course on a hard road surface, gravel tires will incur much higher frictional rolling resistance losses than smoother road tires.

  • @nzmarty
    @nzmarty 2 года назад

    I'm running the cheapest wire-bead slicks I could find on my cross bike (NZ$23 each). They are generally 4-5kmh faster in 95% of the riding situations I am currently riding in!! Running 45psi gives nice ride.

  • @pierrex3226
    @pierrex3226 Год назад +1

    The website rollingresistance something tests that. Between high end road tyres and high end knobby gravel tyres there's a 20W difference for a bike. 10W per tyre on road, 21W per tyre on gravel, that's 20+W.
    On top of that, there's a drag reduction, as a narrower tyre offers less surface area to the wind. That's probably 5W at 35kmh or so. Maybe more, because knobby tyres on top of being wider probably create a lot of wind turbulence. Irrelevant on a true gravel ride, but on the road at 30kmh+, all those differences add up to a lot.

    • @DR_1_1
      @DR_1_1 5 месяцев назад

      I'm a bit skeptic about their "CX/Gravel Bike Tires Overview", they have a lot of slick tyres with low/average puncture resistance on this table, and some of them come in many different versions (e.g. Gravelking, G-One) whose exact name do not match those in the shops, etc.

  • @andyjame28
    @andyjame28 11 месяцев назад

    This bike was really easy to assemble ruclips.net/user/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.

  • @tomcruz3774
    @tomcruz3774 2 года назад +7

    If you ever find out that you don't have enough grip on gravel, try running a knobby tire in the front but keep a fast tire in the rear. It's what's on my bike right now and it's still pretty fast and I don't have any problems off road.

    • @josephmscott
      @josephmscott 2 года назад

      I have a Cannondale Topstone Lefty 3 and it came with this exact set-up. I highly recommend it.

    • @tomcruz3774
      @tomcruz3774 Год назад

      @B2theM 1 Late reply but I got a 40c wtb venture in the front and I used to run a 38c gravelking ss in the rear but that got too many punctures so I went with a 32c conti grand sport race that was just lying in my parts bin

  • @CarlGillstrom
    @CarlGillstrom 6 месяцев назад

    Nice test, although inflating them to the same psi I don't agree with. Tyres with different width normally have different optimal PSI recommendations.

  • @bbjislegend2606
    @bbjislegend2606 Год назад

    have u heard of portable electric air pump? they work very well and i guess u dont have to manually pump ur tires with hand. u should give it a try!!

  • @BigWealthySchlong
    @BigWealthySchlong Год назад

    Same thing here - I went from WTB Nano 700Cx40 (with inner tubes) to Panaracer Gravelking SS 700x32 tubeless - i can easily hit 60km/h right now

  • @Leo-gt1bx
    @Leo-gt1bx Год назад

    I wish they would do tyres without reflective stripes.

  • @ercmadden
    @ercmadden 2 года назад

    I'm genuinely stunned that the difference was that large!

  • @wakeawaken430
    @wakeawaken430 Год назад +1

    Gravelking 38c slicks and you have the best of two worlds

    • @e.anthonyi8054
      @e.anthonyi8054 9 дней назад

      Not a very impressive Tire 🤷‍♂️ Conti 5000 AS is much better. So is Strada Biancha Pro HTLR

    • @wakeawaken430
      @wakeawaken430 9 дней назад

      @@e.anthonyi8054 you know that gravelking are also off road tires, don't you?

    • @e.anthonyi8054
      @e.anthonyi8054 8 дней назад

      @@wakeawaken430 not more or less than the both i mentioned (the GK slicks)

    • @wakeawaken430
      @wakeawaken430 8 дней назад

      @@e.anthonyi8054 you don't know what you are talking about
      I lost already too much time for you

    • @e.anthonyi8054
      @e.anthonyi8054 8 дней назад

      @@wakeawaken430 bye 😅

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f Год назад

    You do understand tolerance. 202 and 204 Watts are indistinguishable factoring in error margins. Just call it 200 and done.

  • @Igor-Roza
    @Igor-Roza Год назад

    I was hoping to see a video about riding gravel on slick tires :(

  • @BorgyManotoyOnline
    @BorgyManotoyOnline Год назад

    Cool! Just wondering though what the difference would be if you use gravel bike + road tires vs pure road bike. Would there be any difference on watts or time?

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  Год назад +2

      That’s a good idea! I imagine it depends on weight and how aero dynamic the road frame is-and of course how deep the wheels used are. Might be a future video!

  • @BabaYaga0451
    @BabaYaga0451 2 года назад +2

    Did you encounter any compatibility issues with the wheels by downsizing the tires that much? I'm considering going from 42mm gravel tires to 30 or 32mm road tires.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад +1

      No comparability issues. Just the normal pain of installing tubeless tires haha. Definitely worth taking to a shop or watching a bunch of tutorials if you’ve never done it before.

  • @martinsachs3837
    @martinsachs3837 Год назад +2

    The schwalbe one is probably even better. You inflades them to 60 psi which is outside the recommended pressure window of 65-100 psi!
    More precise test would be to use e.g. maximum recommended pressure on both tires.

    • @DaveCM
      @DaveCM Год назад

      Or used one of the available calculators that is supposed to figure out the optimal pressure for tire size and weight. Running the gravel tires that high may have hurt a little too.

  • @johnyoon5399
    @johnyoon5399 Год назад

    I’m in a similar situation - I have a Trek FX Sport 4 that came with heavy tires and I just got some Continental GP 5000 S TR’s (32mm) to improve speed. I spent a lot of time researching a good in-between tire that would be fast on road but could also handle light gravel, but it’s hard to find one. Still not sure how the GPs will handle gravel, but am anxious to see how much they improve road speed. How are the Schwalbes on gravel? I have the Pro Ones on my road bike, they’re quite nice in my experience.

    • @YuichiTamaki
      @YuichiTamaki Год назад

      Hey I am curious to see how it went for you? when I had my Giant Escape RX I put some Continental Ultra sport III and the improvement was noticeable. For general use I cannot recommend more those tires, they are so affordable.

  • @chrisconn2205
    @chrisconn2205 Год назад

    Hey Mitch great video! Any issues with running out of gears with the road tires and added speed? Thanks!

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  Год назад

      Not really, but I live in a mountainous area and spend most of my time on climbs, so running out of gears is rarely and issue for me :)

    • @bindingcurve
      @bindingcurve Год назад

      @@MitchBoyer Downhill?

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f Год назад

    It's amazing isn't it? If interested, watch Josh Poertner from Silca explain "hysteresis". He's amazing and clearly lays out where these differences come from.

  • @mydearriley
    @mydearriley Год назад +1

    also, what are the pedals you use? ever consider mtb spd pedals on your gravel bike?

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  Год назад +1

      I originally had the shimano spd pedals, but switched to the Favero Assioma pedals (which use the Look Keo cleat) shortly before making this video. Spd was definitely more convenient. I ended up giving this bike to my dad and he chose to have the spd pedals. Thanks for watching dude!

  • @godswitness3105
    @godswitness3105 2 года назад

    Had the same Giant tires on my Revolt 2. ATX2 from Emory in 38mm. I swapped to slick gravel tires being Panaracer Gravel King SS. Like you halved the weight. Such faster. Width was important toe for comfort and traction as our roads get wet having a decently long rain season. So kept the confidence to bomb downhills in the wet, cut across grass, poor footpaths and still ok on smoother gravel roads.
    I have a roadie for critv racing and run 26mm that measure 28 and the confidence is dramatic when conditions are average.
    Safety confidence speed. My grabel bike is my training bike.
    Ultimately 2 sets of wheels would be great if you only had a gravel bike. But I do.likevthe sharp steering and ultra low weight of a carbon rim braked bike, it feels so much faster uphill and later etched carbon rim brake surface is surprisingly good. It pulls up nicely even when wet
    Huge improvement over standard carbon rims that seriously the brakes don't work, don't pull up at all when wet.
    Whatever works! Just enjoy it.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад

      I've seen in the comments that people really don't like the Giant Crosscut tires--looks like any upgrade to them is a good one, especially with quality tires like those Panaracers. Thanks for watching!

  • @sidharthrao9005
    @sidharthrao9005 Год назад

    This is how I felt when putting Gravel tyres on my mountain bike

  • @ds94703
    @ds94703 2 года назад

    Can you do a puncture test? Ride over a box of carpet tacks with each tire.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад

      Haha that would be kinda fun!

  • @LeoInterHyenaem
    @LeoInterHyenaem 2 года назад +2

    That's what I always do. I much, much, much prefer gravel bikes over any other for their speed, versatility, compatibility with racks and mudguards (not the case with all gravel bikes), improved comfort, etc. But hate tractor tyres. Also prefer aerodynamic rims. And asphalt over gravel. To Me, as gravel bike is the much more practicable road bike. Essentially, as fast with the right setup, but superior in every other way. On road as well.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад +1

      It’s pretty cool how much a good set of wheels and tires can change a bike!

  • @JeremyLawrence-imajez
    @JeremyLawrence-imajez 11 месяцев назад

    Same pressure is both tyres only makes sense if they are the same width/volume tyres. As tyres get larger, for same support then you reduce tyre pressures.
    So for me on same rim - I use 28mm at 45psi, 33mm at 32psi, 40mm at 25psi. I now regard 60psi as silly hard and very uncomfortable. Tubeless was a revelation, as now I can ride the correct pressure and not have to worry about snakebites. This means more grip, more comfort, more speed and also rarely a flat tyre. I also found my 33mm CX tyres faster than my 28mm road tyres and so much comfier, particularly off road.
    I now wonder what pressures you now run two years later.

    • @DR_1_1
      @DR_1_1 5 месяцев назад

      45psi for 28mm is too low, that may be the reason they are slower... although 32psi for 33mm is also extra-low, they should be faster at 50-60psi, too.
      That said different brands/models tires perform very differently, so it's possible that some CX tyres, even with knobs, are faster than road tyres...

    • @JeremyLawrence-imajez
      @JeremyLawrence-imajez 5 месяцев назад

      You seem to have missed the memo that hard tyres are not in fact faster @@DR_1_1, they just feel faster which is not the same thing.
      But yes some tyres are simply better than others. I had some 36mm that were sluggish and hard work compared to both my 33 + 40mm tyres.

    • @DR_1_1
      @DR_1_1 5 месяцев назад

      @@JeremyLawrence-imajez No, higher pressure gets you less rolling resistance, all other factors equal, ie same tyre, same width, same surface, same weight, etc.
      It's simple as that.
      It's just less comfortable. But faster.
      You'd need to go as high as 20psi to see the rolling resistance plateaued.

    • @JeremyLawrence-imajez
      @JeremyLawrence-imajez 5 месяцев назад +1

      That's incorrect, last century thinking @DR_1_1 I suggest you update yourself on this topic. In short it's the same reason why suspension is faster on lumpy surfaces, but on a micro level. Even a good road isn't actually smooth and good roads are rare.
      This is why racers now use larger tyres and lower pressures than previously. I've long thought that 32mm=ish will end up being the sweet spot for road riding because increasing weight becomes a tradeoff. Just as 2.3"-ish seems to be is sweet sport for MTB. Last century 21mm and 1.8" was the norm along with stupid high tyre pressures.This change is part of the reason why riders are now faster.
      More comfort is also less fatiguing so faster too, unless doing events measured in minutes. BTW Cyclocross racers use 33mm tyres and pressures in low 20s, because it's faster and grippier. World Champion MTBers use 16-18psi and 2.3/4" tyres to win races. Road racing is still behind the progress curve, as it usually is.

  • @hjkhhjkh3635
    @hjkhhjkh3635 Год назад

    Bro, did you put 30c tyres to replace 38c??? Does that work well or is the tyre too narrow?

  • @ivaniliev74
    @ivaniliev74 Год назад

    hello, how to measure how narrow tires i can fit on my gravel rims?

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  Год назад

      Hi, I'm not sure. It's probably best to try and look up the documentation of your rims. Good luck!

  • @pokeken
    @pokeken Год назад

    Did you use the same original rim to fit the 30mm tires?

  • @Revit7
    @Revit7 2 года назад

    Schwalbe 28mm did not fit right on my tcr and took two people to get on. No problem seating with air. Maybe defective? Gave up and got 28mm gp5000tl

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад

      ah that’s a bummer! I loved my 30mm schwalbes. I’ve heard great things about the gp5000s 🔥

    • @Revit7
      @Revit7 2 года назад

      @@MitchBoyer had schwalbe 30mm pro one tubeless on a surly pacer. Loved them super fast. They fit on the tcr but did not seat right. The tcr slr one wheel set is notoriously slow. My pacer with schwalbe tires was faster.

  • @MrKyle12386
    @MrKyle12386 2 года назад

    So I’m getting into biking. I was given for free a trek 3700. It’s fun going on trails on but so slow and painful on road. I bought a khs flite 150 endurance bike for 150$ with road tires it’s so much faster in pavement. But between shitty roads and weighing 220 pounds. I pop them alot. And I get sad when I explore and come across a gravel trail that I can’t go on. I’m training for ms150 anD currently ride bike 20 miles daily as commuter. In December want to buy my first new bike around 1300$. I don’t plan on doing races. Sounds like I should get a gravel bike and get a second set for road instead of get a road bike and pigeon holed. I just don’t want to feel sluggish on road

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад

      You'll definitely notice a big different with proper road tires! Having two sets of wheels for a gravel bike seems like a popular option. I ended up giving my Gravel bike to my Dad and buying a road bike for myself since I was riding on the road almost 100% of the time.

    • @MrKyle12386
      @MrKyle12386 2 года назад

      @@MitchBoyer I like riding on road but here in Houston we don’t have much paved trails. All space is to accommodate cars. We have the widest freeway in the entire world and I almost get ran over daily. When I took my mountain bike to east coast with Smokey’s it was so much fun. So looking forward trying to decide best use of money. I’m eventually getting a nice mountain bike. But unsure what to do for my second bike

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад

      @@MrKyle12386 Big decision, sorry to hear about the infrastructure woes. Good luck!

  • @prsna1
    @prsna1 Год назад

    I put 30mm continental 5000 road tires on my canyon grail and replaced 40mm gravel tire. After 32km first puncture 😂 in freezing early morning in Munich. I did 3200km on my 40mm gravel tire and even did a long tour (Munich to Venice) in summer with zero puncture the entire time. So be prepared fellas 😂

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  Год назад

      I feel your pain! I put about 10k miles (16k km) on multiple road tubeless tires w/o any punctures (Schwalbe, Michelin Power Road and Power Cup)... and then in one week I got 3 punctures back to back! Just did a 340 mile (540km) 2-day ride on my Michelin Tires, and made it through the whole thing with zero punctures. Hopefully my luck is back!

  • @alienlivingform
    @alienlivingform 3 месяца назад

    Nice video, but Giant's tyres are painfully slow and have high RR. There are far faster gravel tyres and I reckon the difference would be less (Gravelking SS, G one RS, Cinturato gravel H etc)

  • @steveh1273
    @steveh1273 2 года назад +4

    How do you repair a flat on these new tubeless tires? My experience with road bikes ended 4 years ago (I'm too old and fat now to enjoy it) and I used Continental tubed tires. If I flatted, just insert a new tube (stored in my saddle's bag) and voila, off I go. I'm assuming the new tubeless are not like the old sewups of yesteryear. PS: never grow old or get unhealthy enough to enjoy riding, you will regret it.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад +2

      Most of the time it seals up itself! You can carry dynaplugs (just like the car tire plugs) for bigger holes, but I’ve never tried them. I actually still carry a tube in my saddlebag just in case of a catastrophic failure. The tires are not really more difficult to remove or put on compared to a clincher. The canister is only needed if you’re going tubeless, so a mini pump or co2 + tube inside should be fine for emergencies. But! I haven’t had to test it yet 🤞still no flats!

    • @tts8907
      @tts8907 2 года назад +3

      Get the Vittoria Road Airliner inserts - that’s my solution for the rare possibility of a flat. They will allow you to ride back home or to your car. You get peace of mind as well as a lighter ride - not needing to carry a saddle bag at all.
      Win-win situation!

    • @brianwright9514
      @brianwright9514 2 года назад

      @@MitchBoyer I've used plugs before and they work exactly as prescribed. Big sidewall cut and was riding again in less than 5 minutes without even dismounting the wheel from the bike.

  • @user-im2gg8ng3z
    @user-im2gg8ng3z 8 месяцев назад

    can i put 700x23c tire on my gravel bike? does the rim need requirements for size of the tire

    • @DR_1_1
      @DR_1_1 5 месяцев назад

      Nobody is using 23c in 2024... you'd need 15mm wide rims for that, max!

  • @GRTNS
    @GRTNS 2 года назад

    Concidering selling my road bike, and buying a gravel bike with a extra pair of road tires instead. Do you often feel like running out of gears when riding downhill?

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад +3

      Might not be the right one for your question… I sold my gravel bike and bought a road bike 😂

  • @nemure
    @nemure 3 месяца назад

    My tip is to never use hookless wheels and avoid tubeless, an inner tube with protection such as tannus armour is way better
    Regarding the test would be much better to know average and max speeds. Few seconds doesn't tell much but knowing speed difference would IMHO

  • @warnersmith1344
    @warnersmith1344 Месяц назад

    Thinking of doing the same. Did you use the same wheels the bike came with for the 30mm tires?

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  Месяц назад +1

      Yep same wheels

    • @warnersmith1344
      @warnersmith1344 Месяц назад

      @@MitchBoyer What would you estimate your average speed in MPH increased between the stock 38mm and the 30mm Schwalbe tires was? Any idea?

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  Месяц назад

      @@warnersmith1344oh I have no idea. It’s been a loooong time since I made this video. It was substantial though

    • @warnersmith1344
      @warnersmith1344 Месяц назад

      @@MitchBoyer Thanks much. I'm planning a short duathlon race on my gravel bike next month and thinking the road tires may be worth it for that event

  • @harpoon2445
    @harpoon2445 Год назад

    Inflating both sets to the same pressure does not make it a good comparison because of the difference in width. 60 PSI is most likely too low for the 30mm and too high for the 38mm. On a smooth surface this will then benefit the wider tire. On a very bumpy surface this benefits the narrower tire.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  Год назад +1

      Very good point! I had no real knowledge of rolling resistance, or the importance of tire pressures when I made this video. I just inflated it to the recommended specs for the 30mm and copied the same for the 38mm 😅. Silca's tire calculator recommends 46psi for the 38, so I was quite a bit off :)

    • @harpoon2445
      @harpoon2445 Год назад

      @@MitchBoyer yes indeed, the Silca calculator is the one I use also

  • @eliasstadler8821
    @eliasstadler8821 4 месяца назад

    Did the 30mm road tired fit on the original wheels?

  • @mydearriley
    @mydearriley Год назад +1

    are those your own photographs printed and framed on your walls?

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  Год назад +1

      Yep :) I used to run a print shop and printed them myself!

    • @mydearriley
      @mydearriley Год назад

      @@MitchBoyer That's amazing!
      Any tricks for cycling with a camera? I like to ride with my XT3 (+35mm f1.4) and a peak design leash strap cinched all the way up. I've been looking into the few options for stabilizer/cross-body straps, but haven't been impressed so far. In fact, I've been on the brink of making my own!

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  Год назад

      ​@@mydearriley Thanks! I have a strap from PSbagworks that works well, but I find myself using my Insta360 or GoPro or even iPhone more often these days on rides (of course that's not as nice for still photography)

  • @ready2ridef4i20
    @ready2ridef4i20 Год назад

    How are you measuring your wattage?

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  Год назад

      I'm using the Favero Assioma Duo power meter pedals

  • @user-hg4oh6wx9t
    @user-hg4oh6wx9t 3 месяца назад

    Can i put a 700x26c tire on my gravel rim that has a tire size of 700x43c?

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  3 месяца назад +1

      Most likely, but it depends on the internal rim width of your gravel wheelset. If it's too wide, a road tire may not fit. I bet if you did 30s you'd be safe though. And the latest science seems to show wider tires are faster. I'm currently on 28s that inflate to 30mm, and I already have a set of 30s to put on my bike when those expire.

  • @ss_whole
    @ss_whole 6 месяцев назад

    Next up: I put Daisy stems on my Roses

  • @tobznoobs
    @tobznoobs 8 месяцев назад

    i want to replace my 1 week old giant crosscut because of this

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  8 месяцев назад

      Oh no, sorry! haha Keep ‘em for gravel on the days you need them

  • @russlerjones3278
    @russlerjones3278 2 года назад

    I honestly thought the difference would be greater, (slicks always feel so much faster) I’d like to see you do the challenge again but remove 600g of weight from your bike with the nobbly tyre set up.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад

      That's a good idea for a video!

  • @stevevarga8621
    @stevevarga8621 2 года назад

    What you’ve done is compare a crappy tire with a top of the line tire. All cheap tires are heavy stiff and slow. Tires are the one place where it pays to go high end because the quality of the rubber really makes a difference.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад

      You’re absolutely right! The majority of my viewers are pretty new to cycling and would be switching from a stock tire on their own bikes, so they would see similar results to this video. It would be interesting to compare the stock gravel tire to a nice gravel tire.

    • @stevevarga8621
      @stevevarga8621 2 года назад

      @@MitchBoyer Thank you for replying. That’s a nice touch. Re gravel tires: you’ll have the added complication of wildly different tread patterns. Tread patterns make a huge difference in roll resistance in gravel riding, much more so then the tire width factor that most people are distracted by. Hey, you could do a piece on that! Benefits of wider tires. That’s hugely topical for gravel, MTB and road riders.

  • @marekholub8668
    @marekholub8668 2 года назад +3

    It's not Shwalb... It's Schwalbe (Shwalbeh). Same problem as Porsche

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! Wasn’t sure

    • @Dinckelburg
      @Dinckelburg 2 года назад

      Did somebody say shawarma?

  • @jurajnovotny4725
    @jurajnovotny4725 2 года назад

    Why u look like Sebastian Vettel without the mustage ?

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад

      😂 long lost brothers...

  • @jimmyhor78
    @jimmyhor78 2 года назад

    So maybe you were struggling on climbs mainly because of slow stock gravel tires. Not because of the bike weight.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад

      The tires definitely help a lot!

  • @safwanahmad1040
    @safwanahmad1040 2 года назад

    Would you suggest a 28mm instead of 30mm?

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад

      It might be a bit faster. I’ve never ridden the 28mm version so I really can’t say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @dusanaleksic3104
      @dusanaleksic3104 2 года назад

      I just bought continental ultra sport 3 - 28mm, will let you know how they feel when I fit them.

  • @jonasosa5126
    @jonasosa5126 2 года назад

    Obviously

  • @xjalonzo9643
    @xjalonzo9643 2 года назад

    I do road 95% of the time... although I live in the Philippines where road feels like gravel hahaha My country is trash 😅

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад

      Haha I feel your pain 😅 the roads here in LA are pretty bad sometimes too

  • @brianwright9514
    @brianwright9514 2 года назад

    Those Crosscut tires are junk; so this test really didn't tell you very much, unfortunately, because you're comparing a low-quality tire against a high quality tire. Additionally, you were comparing a tube/clincher setup versus tubeless. Sorry to sound negative... Not really trying to be. However, I think you probably would have seen immediate quantitative differences even if you'd went with a different gravel tire, such as the Schwalbe G-One 700x38.
    I immediately took off my stock gravel tires and put on some Teravail Washburn semi-slick tires set up for tubeless and the difference was immediately apparent. I'm also getting a spare wheelset to run a true road tire on and I'm really only expecting to see a difference on high speed group rides.

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад +2

      Lot’s of good points :) both sets of tires in the video are tubeless, but everything else you said is dead on. Thanks for watching!

  • @muratmustafa4532
    @muratmustafa4532 8 месяцев назад

    10% shocked you?

  • @jksjksjks85
    @jksjksjks85 Год назад

    You are comparing a low quality, heavy stock tire to a high performance road bike tire that is used by pro riders in races.
    A much fairer comparison would be a high performance gravel tire such as the Continental Terra Speed (350 g in the 35 mm version) or the Specialized Pathfinder Pro.

  • @Jollibuuu
    @Jollibuuu 2 года назад

    You need atleast 80psi on road tires or you wont maximize the rolling resistance and risking snakebite puncture

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  2 года назад +3

      Totally true with a clincher tire--you don't want a pinch flat! These are tubeless, however, so you can actually run them super low. Schwalbe recommends 55-80psi for this specific tire. I was shocked at first, but they ride great, are super fast, and I've had no issues so far. ✌️

  • @lenolenoleno
    @lenolenoleno 2 года назад +1

    It's not a matter of gravel or road tyre. That Giant Crosscut is a shitty tyre, and you've put on a much more supple faster rolling compound tyre. Channels like this just add to the confusion for consumers. An example of the Dunning-Kreuger in full flight.

  • @richardjohnson4527
    @richardjohnson4527 Год назад

    I would like to see the opposite test: let’s ride a gravel route and see if the gravel tires perform better than the tubeless road tires.

  • @Chris-td8mr
    @Chris-td8mr 10 месяцев назад

    imho at 2:34 your saddle is too low, your legs are still bent too much... but just me sayin .. first video i see on your channel, sry

  • @jerrywaters4814
    @jerrywaters4814 Год назад

    Y'all people trying to prove and justify the price of your bicycles tires etc. Okay if you're going to have to test you're going to have to do it at the same time because the barometers headwind tailwind sidewinds all change. Only if y'all put more thought into your country than you do as you do your bicycles.

  • @StalinorgelTV
    @StalinorgelTV 4 месяца назад

    Crosscuts are a piece of junk, weigh a ton. Best upgrade I ever made was getting rid of them

  • @7654321asdq
    @7654321asdq 6 месяцев назад

    Illegal

  • @warrenbeer2737
    @warrenbeer2737 Год назад

    Well if you change gravel bike tyres for slimmer road bike tyres of course your bike will be faster 🤦‍♂️

    • @MitchBoyer
      @MitchBoyer  Год назад

      😂 true! Hopefully it gave a little insight into how much faster it can be. I'm working on a video going the other way: putting gravel tires on my road bike. Tried to find tires that are fairly equal in quality. Hope you watch it when it's out!

  • @BostilCensurado
    @BostilCensurado 5 месяцев назад

    Yeah almost 700grams for a 38mm tire is a lot, even the crapiest cheap sri lanka tire isnt that heavy, this comparison doesnt make sense, get an actual gravel tire thats about 450 gramas at that width and do it again

  • @inquaanate2393
    @inquaanate2393 Год назад

    Hate to burst your bubble but a gravel bike with road tires is a road bike.

    • @weihoang9453
      @weihoang9453 2 месяца назад

      Impossible. Rest of the bike apart from handle bars and maybe brakes are same. Geometry, wheels and gearing will be different