This man is so real. He doesn't talk down to his viewers; just explains his opinion and shares what he's learned with the world. You're the shit Hickock!!!
Perry Hughes I totally agree. There are other good channels, but he makes it fun to learn. He's the reason I went with the LCR from Ruger for my everyday carry. Hickock45 4 liiiiife!
I am a Veteran from Afghanistan and Iraq. I personally carry concealed the 357 Sig. I know how the 9mm and various other cartridges work on human targets. I have seen a lot of them first hand. Here is a little input, what most people wont tell you about them. From our perspective, Virtually every pistol round is nearly identical for the most part, with the exception of rounds with rifle like speeds that cause enormous wound channels. They move at a velocity of only 900 to 1200fps, Pretty much right at the speed of sound and no matter what caliber you get, Its limited like that. 45ACP, 9mm, 380, 40SW 38special and even the 22 calibers. All fire about the speed of sound. The practice of using it effectively to incapacitate a violent attacker hyped up on adrenaline is pretty much to dump the entire magazine into the target. Its kinda brutal. Watch how police do it using their 9mm glocks. They have a backup officer, and both of them will shoot an entire mag into the target. Thats just how its done with 9mm. They pull the trigger til the magazine is empty then call an ambulance. Thats the police combat training method of self defense with 9mm. Its also the same for the military with that caliber. Higher velocity rounds work different. For example rifle rounds. Lets consider the 30-30 rifle. They dont need to be as heavy. They move much faster and that speed translates to a different type of wound channel that is noticeably more effective in combat and in self defense. We can all agree that a single shot of 30-30 is far more effective at doing the job than a single shot of 9mm. 30-30 ammo is very light. Its normal bullet weight ranges between 125gr and 170gr. While the most common rounds are around 140 grain bullets. Its velocities are in the range of 2000ish feet per second. 357 Sig has one thing that most other pistol bullets out there dont have. Velocity. And a lot of it. This is what separates it from the crowd. While its not literally 30-30 level of power, the 357 sig ammo routinely hits and exceeds 1500+ feet per second using 125 grain bullets, 115gr bullets are over 1700fps. Rifle like speeds. Grizzly Ammo makes a 357 sig with a 90 grain Hollow Point when shot out of a 4 inch barrel will achieve 1900 feet per second at 721 foot pounds of energy. That is indeed within the realm of rifle like velocities, and energy slightly higher than a 10mm. The 357 sig reacts in ballistics gel like a rifle bullet. Likewise it would in self defense. The 357 sig is in my opinion, The single most deadly automatic pistol bullet ever made in a Glock automatic frame from the factory. Its a true manstopper every bit equivalent to the 10mm in automatic hand guns which also top out around 600ish foot pounds of energy. The Sig chambered pistols just does it in a smaller frame that normal people can grip. While it is true that modern police have switched back to the 9mm, we have all heard about it, That doesnt mean its the best for stopping a person that breaks in to your home at night. Police Departments have taken measures to reduce police involved deaths over the years, and the 9mm is good for incapacitating a suspect; ~ and at the same time a quick hospital visit can most of the time save that suspects life. Fewer deaths puts the Police Departments in a better light when it comes to PR. Thats what a lot of it is really about. Keep the police related deaths numbers down. If you want tiny teeth, buy a 9mm. If you want serious wolf fangs that can take down multiple gunmen shooting up a place you might be stuck in, or maybe 5 men armed with ballbats that break into your home at night, Get a 357 Sig or a 10mm. It just takes less rounds to incapacitate each target. You wont have to reload near as much to do the same job. How prepared for what scenario do you want to be? If you get mobbed by an ANTIFA crowd beating and kicking you to death with Skateboards and two by fours, will you have the capacity to incapacitate only one of them? Or can you take enough of them down to stop the attack entirely. Then have an extra round in the chamber for that one stupid guy who still wants to whack you with his skateboard even after you have fired your weapon? You decide what you are prepared for. It kicks harder. Yes. Train with a 9mm. Carry a 357 for protection. Problem solved. When your life is on the line, You will appreciate the extra horsepower behind each round. You wont care if your hand is a little sore afterwards either. Better that than dead.
A lot of you guys seen the Texas Church shooting. Where the ANTIFA guy went into the church with a shotgun and started shooting members. The gunman was stopped with one shot. One round dropped that ANTIFA guy like a sack of potatoes. That round was a 357 Sig round from a conceal carry. It only took one round. Thats the real deal performance of this round in real life scenario that you can examine yourself. Watch the video yourself and see how it works. Its loud, and has a muzzle flash too! nypost.com/2019/12/29/texas-church-shooting-leaves-2-dead/
@@firesnake6556 The shooter was a homeless dude, that used to hang out near the church with his brother, when his brother died, he became a bit more crazy.
As far as home defense protection goes I’m still sticking with a 12 gauge 3” magnum 00 buckshot. Not many buckshot survivors out there. I hope to someday get a .357 Sig pistol. I like the 9mm and the .45 and I carry the S&W M&P Shield with Federal HST 230 +P JHP ammo and amazingly expands very well in this short barrel pistol. You made some great points in your post!!!
@@jessecolvett6391 If an intruder breaks into your home at night, are you going to grab a 380 or 9mm conceal carry, or do you want that 10mm in your hand? My point exactly. If you want the 10mm in your hand in that situation, then carry what makes you feel safe because it gives you sound mind that it will work when needed. 10mm and 357Sig take some training to get used to, but once you are adapted, Its aweful nice to have it protecting you and your family. Thats for sure.
@@jessecolvett6391 I deeply appreciate both the 10mm and the 357 Sig. The thing is, The 10mm comes in large frame pistols only, making it difficult to conceal carry. The 357Sig comes in a smaller medium frame pistol. It comes in a Glock Subcompact. The Glock 33. Its still very high energy and high velocity. Its just a lot more concealable, smaller and lighter than any 10mm on the market. Thats all. So I can have that power, and conceal it too.
One of the most humble down to earth firearm review channels on the net. He never talks down to anyone or about anything he just gives good legit non bias reviews. EVERY gun I’ve ever bought I’ve watched him review it first
Hickok45 is no poseur: no gym-rat tee shirt that's three sizes too small, no pointy tattoos, no Tactical Mall Operator clothing, no action-hero production. 100% authentic.
Just got a G32 and have added it to my EDC rotation. The .357 SIG round was highly recommended by a retired law enforcement friend of mine that I greatly respect. I also have a P226 and P229 .357 SIG pistols. Love 'em too.
😂2 liter exploded when he aims at it, without firing a round ,2 liter knew what was going to happen after seeing the others and decided to take the easy way .😂😂😂🤣
I bought a Glock 23 (Gen 2) new in 1997 and carried it off-duty and on-duty in plain-clothes as a police officer and since I retired. Still love this pistol! Knock on wood, still not one misfire or mis-feed. Out of the box, fired more than 500 rounds and thousands more since! From “shoot-or-die confrontations to the range, she has never let me down. While I appreciate the rail-flashlight capability of my G23 Gen 4, my Gen 2 is my preferred weapon of choice. Keep on keeping on, Hickok45!
I used to hate the 23 but after years of shooting 9mm and 45 I returned to the 23 and 27 and it's now just a joy to shoot and it's very accurate . Also 40 isn't as expensive as 45 either.
Notice how fast that 357 sig bangs on that gong versus the 40 a bit longer delay to get there. That 357 sig is definitely a favorite of mine it's a beast
@flammingremy7263 I think the idea is “On a moving target, the extra delay from rounds like 40 SW and 45 ACP may effect your ability to get effective rounds on target”. How’s that? I don’t think anyone is saying you can play a high intensity game of dodgeball with 40. 😂
I purchased a Sig Sauer P226 and P229 in .40SW as government trade ins and decked them both out with Gray Guns and upgraded Sig internals. Then both were fitted with Bar-Sto barrels to convert them to .357 Sig. I love the round so much. Really wish it was more popular. Sig’s magazines are marked .357 Sig / .40 SW thankfully.
My 2 favorite rounds!! I definitely feel a pretty significant difference in the blast, noise level, and recoil on the .357 sig. that’s coming from an M&P 2.0 compact at least. Love both rounds but prefer the .357 a bit more.
One thing I hate about Glock is they design .357 Sig magazines STRICTLY for that caliber. You cannot fit .40 rounds and use them! Even if you do, it will jam with every shot. If you have both calibers, ONLY buy .40 magazines and make sure that caliber is stamped on the magazine plate. .357 magazines are only for that and they almost never work with .40.
Thanks for another great video. I carried a 40 s&w in my law enforcement career for a number of years and absolutely loved it! A couple of years ago, my agency mandated 357 Sig as THE caliber of use and issued me a new Glock 31. Now that the cussing and groaning is over, I can say that I have grown fond of the round. I do reload for it as that's the only way to get to the range and keep my off-duty G33 fed on typical LEO pay. Thanks again for another entertaining and informative vid. Keep them coming!
I am so impressed with this guy. Hickok45 doesn't know how to fail. I've watched a BUNCH of his videos and all of them are excellent. I nominate him for the gun reviewer God of RUclips. I have learned so much from him. Thank you so much for all of your great work, hickok45!
I'm a deputy in rural West Tennessee. Been carring a Glock 32 for the past couple of years. I personally would not carry any other caliber in a duty weapon. It shoots flat and hits hard. I was qualifing last week. At the ten yard line the bullet was hitting the berm and splashing mud on my hat. That is hard hitting. Recoil wise if you are concentrating properly the felt recoil is minimual. It does take practice but it can be done. Thanks for the tip on the Talon grips. They are awesome.
I love everything about the Px4 except the safety. Feels like the gun is biting me every time I rack the slide. Think it's time to trade in my px4 45 for something with no safety. Or at least better safety placement
Different strokes for different folks I guess. My glock 19 has never had a failure to feed or eject, and I have shot the gauntlet of range rounds through it. I have shot federal HST, federal 115 +p+, hornady critical defense, and Speer gold dot +p. Plus I am way more accurate with it than my px4 (the same px4 that has had 3 failures to load in my last 2 range visits) I will say I recently rented a glock 43 as a potential concealed carry weapon, and I didn't like the trigger on it at all. So not just a glock fanboy, but when it comes to protecting myself, id always grab the 19 over the px4
I honestly love the .40 it's more powerful than 9mm and even .45acp, also it has the most success in 1 shot stops than any other caliber according to police shootout records. A lot of ppl hate on it and say its too snappy. I felt that way when I first started shooting it but 1000s of rounds later I have learned to manage recoil well enough that I can shoot it just as well as 9mm and have that extra power. I usually carry a Walther PPQ M2 with Federal HST .40s&w and I feel very confident that it will do the job if I need it.
1 shot stop is fools gold. What LEO is going to shoot 1 shot and then assess, rather than shooting until the suspect is immobilized? BTW - people on a suicide mission don't go down after one shot. Only the people who want the LEO's to call an ambulance (or want to exit the firefight) go down after one shot. The exception will be hits to vitals or "T" zone, and that has everything to do with luck/accuracy and less to do with caliber.
@@TheTexan99 modern 9mm ammo doesn't come close to 40 cal. The comparison you're making is hot loaded 9mm vs a simple target round 40 cal. Hot loaded 40 cal is way more powerful and just as fast as 9mm. Do your research.
@@TheTexan99 you’re comparing high end 9mm rounds to fmj or target .40 rounds. Find the same “modern 9mm ammo” in .40 s&w and it will be faster and stronger than its 9mm counterpart. Don’t know why you 9mm worshippers seem to think 9mm is a stronger round when in fact it scientifically isn’t.
@@TheTexan99 Big deal. You wind up having to put 2-3 more rounds into the bad guy to stop him. Either is fine for self defense. And 9mm ONLY has more energy than .40 if it's overloaded +P ammo, which is not a good idea with most handguns. .40 is derived from cutting down the shell of the massive 10mm Auto round, which is equal or even more powerful than .44 Magnum.
I've had a few Ruger .357 Magnums and they were fun to shoot but I've never really had the motivation to get the 357 Sig. Hickok had to talk me into the 40 S&W (G27, then a G23) but I'm glad that he did. I bought the 9mm conversion barrel/magazines but leave it in 40 most of the time at the range. The conversion has been 100% for me with the proper magazines, I'm just liking the 40 these days.
Hickock, I have a 229 357 sig. it’s my favorite out of my collection. I have become very accurate with it. Even a few key wholes at 50 feet from time to time. You’re an inspiration to all gun lovers. Great video’s.
I used to own a .357sig made by Sig Sauer...nice gun. But, I traded it for a 9mm as ammo was expensive, and it had some kick, but main reason was the studies that show that .357 sig will over penetrate....not good as a CCW where engagement could happen in a public setting....would not want to chance hurting an innocent behind a wall or behind the perp that was engaged if ever faced with that situation because the round went through the target and injured someone else...pretty hot round. The regular .357 magnum has the same issue. Nice videos Hickok45....
I found my buddy’s Glock 357sig a little bit on the high recoil side. On the other hand, afterwards I purchased an Sig Sauer Nightmare full size (1911 stainless steel frame) and the extra weight balanced it beautifully. Recoil seems much less and it is quite an accurate gun.
I owned a Glock 23 and it stayed a .40.Later,I bought a Sig SP 2340 in .40 and soon after got a .357 Sig conversion kit.I didn't see that much difference between them but normally carried it in .40 simply because it cuts a (slightly) bigger hole.A bigger hole to leak from is a good thing IMHO.But really I don't see that much difference and they'll both put a guy down.They're both good and I think it's largely a matter of personal preference.They are both good,effective rounds and certainly superior to a 9x19mm.
My identity is not important or relevent The sheer "speed on impact" of the .357sig will create a wider wound channel, than the bigger .40 caliber. Speed is just as devastating as size and weight. Or at least a huge part of the results that we aspire to achieve. Both rounds are VERY capable. But, ballistically....the .357sig is superior.
@@ChrisPowell-MerleApAmber that’s my biggest concern over penetration. You don’t want that bullet to create exit wounds you wanna stop the threat right then and there. I love my 40s but 357. Sig would be more of a recreational range gun for me if I ever decide to own one.
Glock 35 does the same thing, .40 Cal, 357 sig, and 9 mm. With kkm barrel or lone wolf, there are other barrels available. I personally like the Glock 35 and the Glock 21 due to versatility. Another good video. I was in the gun shop yesterday and they had your video playing in there. Absolutely loved it. Very informative!
Hickok.... I really appreciate that you don't bad mouth any weapon. That sets you apart from all the others where you discuss the differences in weapons based on features of it and not all the other stuff that people get so tangled up in. With the sound created from shooting outdoors, I can only imagine shooting it indoors. Thank you for being an honest non-biased shooter.
I like the Sig round. It's a good cartridge. I usually use either 9x19mm or .45ACP, but I do like the Sig. I especially like that buy simply buying a couple extra barrels and a few 9mm magazines one can convert a handgun like the S&W M&P .40 to reliably fire .40S&W, .357 Sig AND 9x19mm Parabellum all out of the same pistol!
Why does everyone shoot 9 and 45? Why not 9 and 40 or 40 and 45? 40 is more powerful than both cartridges, and has less recoil than the 45... plus more capacity.
With it being 2020, the ammo has gone down in price since I first started shooting Sig 357 a few years back. I converted my Glock 27 over and love it. I bought several followers from Midway and replaced them in my mags. Shooting the 357 and 40 cal with these followers, I have YET to have any FTF or FTE. and you are correct about the " blast ". It is noticeable. Thanks again for the great videos.
I have a shooting lisence for almost 20 years and a conceal carry license 3 years. Believe it or not I went to the shooting range may be 4 or 5 times a year. Then after I had my concealed carry licence I decided to get more knowledge regarding diferent types of pistols. And one day I went to the internet and saw one of you videos, after that I continued to watch a lot of your videos and thats when it happened my interest for shooting grew up so much that I went to the gunshop and bought my very first concealed carry gun a Glock 32 gen3, I love it so much that I went and bought a Glock 27 gen4 (one of my favorites, because of the size and amazing shooting abilities) and lately I got a glock 30s. I now go to the range once a week! and I love it, and I belive one of the main reasons is because of you Hickok45, don't ever stop creating these amazing videos, they have been very educational and fun to watch. Best Regards...
I own a Glock model 22 in .40 S&W and have a .357 Sig barrel for it which I enjoy shooting it very much. I have not experienced any failure to feed or eject with my Glock when shooting the 357 Sig barrel. I recently bought a 9mm conversion barrel and 3 Magpul 17 round magazines which I plan to test during my next trip to the gun range. I like having a single pistol I am able to shoot 3 different calibers in as ammo availability in one of the 3 calibers will be found during a SHTF situation. Keep the videos coming Hickok45!
a while back someone compiled the data of thousands of shootings involving police and federal agents and discovered that the pistol cartridges with the highest 1 shot stop ratio at center mass are the .40 S&W and the .357 magnum and between those two cartridges you can have a light trigger, fast firing automatic with 15+1 of .40 or a slower firing revolver with a heavy trigger pull and a capacity of 6-8 shots of .357 when it comes to the type of weapon i agree that rifles and shotguns beat revolvers and handguns every day of the week but people trashing the .40S&W really need to pull their head out of their rear ends another reason to consider .40 is that back during the newtown gun scare my local shops never ran out of .40 S&W
Problem with that statistic is the person didn't account for the fact that most all of his departments issued 40 cal. Then the agencies that issue 357 sig were involved in more shootings. The statistics them selves are greatly skewed.
Man. hickok45 was the first gun channel I subscribed to, at a friends recommendation. I have watched plenty of tactical shooting videos for awhile, and fellow vet's channels. It's good to watch someone just have fun, without kit on, or telling you this caliber or nothing. He shares my appreciation for Glock, as well. I can't remember, but Hickok or anyone else who knows can chime in, on what his preferred Glock edc is. I think it's the 27? Anyway, thanks for the uploads. Always fun to watch. I've learned a lot from you.
👍Good stuff. While lots of folks don’t like .357 or .40 I enjoy the 40SW over any other pistol cartridge I shoot. My SIG P229, Springfield 4” XD and SmithW 4006 handle the .40 cartridge great & these particular pistols were built/designed for them. I practice & carry Underwood or Minuteman ammo. 155 to 165 grain HP. If you have never shot .40 S&W, give it a try.
40 has been my favorite since 1997. I just switched to 357 Sig for weight savings. I usually carry 36 rounds. I carry all day long. The 357 Sig made a difference.
Boy let me tell you what,you have the best job in the world! love the video's baby! a single barrel change and oila thank you for all you do for your audience,that's entertainment!!
I've had my 229 since the mid 90's. I just bought an M&P in 357 sig also. It is very nice shooting. and accurate. It is also the first cartridge I reloaded. Easy Easy
I am so jealous, I bought a house in a community so I am at the mercy of friends who live in the boonies to shoot. It must be awesome to go into your back yard and fire whatever you want.
Yeah I know what you mean, I'm looking to move and will buy a house with a little land, where I can set up a Range such as Hickok. Most ranges don't allow rapid fire, drawing from the holster, along with a few other minor rules. Plus it's nice to shoot something other than just paper targets at public shooting ranges.
I have carried a 31 Glock 357 sig as a deputy and as a bodyguard. 4 years ago I shot a guy in the leg which he lost 2 hours into surgery at the knee, it looked like he was hit with a 45 2 times. I swear by the sig round and I too swap to the 40. for deer, and hog hunting, and have killed 3 deer with the sig round at about 35 yards. I just love the 357 Sig.... Keep shooting my friend.
Do you recall what exact bullet/load you were using when you shot the bad guy? I always love to hear real world performance, even if it is a bit morbid, LOL
I've owned several G23's over the years and it's still my favorite all around use gun. Not to big to conceal easily, yet plenty big enough to shoot at the range comfortably and fun. I'm going to buy a .357 barrel for mine in a couple weeks when I get paid, AND at least 2-3 .357 specific mags to go with it after watching this vid. You can't go wrong with the Glock 23 👍
I bought 357sig barrel for my Beretta 96, everything you said about the 357 is true. I notice it at the range also... The recoil impulse is sharper than the 40S&W. The 40 seems more drawn out, longer... and more comfortable.. My 357sig barrel sits on the shelf... I was also warned about problems with the Beretta after 30-40k rounds, frankly that's a lot of rounds before you need to worry. The 40 is my carry cal. period.... and I love my 357 but not the 357sig, it just sits....
Secret Service also uses the .357 sig Hey man, if it's good enough to protect the president's kids, it's good enough to protect my kids. Trouble is, it's more expensive. Costs more to be proficient with it, and it's not a super common round. The Executive's Watchmen may have a bunch of money laying around, but I'm a bit thrifty hahaha
Both my 10 and 12-round Sig Sauer magazines have imprints stamped on them that say: "Sig Sauer .40/.357". I believe that means the mags are Sig Sauer certified to accept both rounds with equal approval by Sig Sauer. My 299 was purchased used, but almost brand new and I believe it was built around 1991 or 92. I bought it at a small gun shop in 2006. The prior owner didn't shoot it much. I doubt it had 500 rounds when I purchased it. To me today, it's a time piece, like an old fine watch. It even says: "SIGARMS INC" on the stainless-steel slider. It's a piece of history. The best part is that I now can change it from a 40 S&W to a .357 Sig in a few minutes while at the range. It's hard to find .357 FMJ target ammo for it. I ordered a few boxes of HPs for it and both rounds work perfectly with the Sig Magazines. I'm keeping this as a timepiece in a similar way that I'm keeping my pre-lunar Omega Speedmaster.
I am a huge 10mm fan but .45 and .40 are also in my collection and all have their place... for a carry gun either the .40 or .45 IMO Another great vid...
No argument here. But there's one problem, I won't be judged by 12 because I won't be arrested and tried in the first place. Justifiable use statutes in Florida, gotta love 'em.
You made some great points, as always. I think it has that "wow" factor to it, which makes it a very attractive choice. It's definitely a good round to bring up in conversation. It's speed is almost unchallenged in auto-loaders(besides the 10mm). If it were as cheap to shoot as other rounds, it would be more of the obvious choice for carry, I think. Except for the 10mm in bear country. I don't really know what to think about it......still confused. lol
I like my 40. have never felt the need for more. A great round even for woods carry. Accurate and managible recoil plus stopping power for anything in the woods. No regrets!
I'm a big 10 mm fan but I also have a 40S&W Glock I shot a 150 lb bore hog about 75 yd away angled in from the front of the hip on one side and it exited out the the opposite shoulder Yes with the 40 cal Smith and Wesson also had a friend with me that seen the whole thing.The 40 S&W is What some people calls short and week not so much 😂
I purchased the 32 about 6 months ago. Kept experiencing failure to feed. Bullet would nose against the barrel ramp base and hold the slide open. Finally after trying several different brands and types of ammo I sent the 32 back to GLOCK. It came back and the only thing I could see they did was change my magazine followers to number ones. Since that change the 32 has fired flawlessly !! Now totally happy with the 32. It's one of my carry guns and now that it's reliable I feel a hell of allot better with it.
For my .357 Sig I bought a complete GLOCK 33 upper on eBay years ago for $75.00 total. It always fired great with only 2 failures to go into battery in about 500 rounds. I was also given a GLOCK 32 barrel which I haven’t fired yet.
7/25/2018: 4 yrs since this video, 357Sig ammo has become way more available with more options AND it's now a lot more affordable. Only $.04-.05 cents more than 380s. I got a 1000 case (20/50 box) 125 gr Speer Lawman TMJ range ammo for $299.00 delivered to my door and HSTs per 50 box for $26.95. Only the 10mm out does the 357Sig. The rest can't even compare! ps: If ya really want to have some fun, try some Underwood 357Sig Extreme Penetrator or Extreme Defender(65 gr 2,100 fps)
Interesting review. I love the .40 S&W. I have since it first came out I had to have a gun chambered in .40, so I purchased one and I never really felt the need to go to the .357 sig. It is a bit of a designer cartridge, much like a pair of faddy jeans. I am sure it is really good and if I had shot that caliber like most I probably would like it. I have shot so many others like .22lr .38 special .357 mag .40 .44 mag 10 mm 9 mm .480 ruger and several others I have forgotten. Out of all of those I always seem to go back to two calibers that I like the most and that is the .40 and the classic .357 magnum. When I carried a gun I toted my .357 magnum revolver with a 4" barrel and seven shot cylinder. When it comes down to it , it seems to be a matter of personal preference. I say use the caliber you feel the most comfortable with and you will be happy. Thanks for the review.
I concur I love the 40 and 357 Magnum. Both are great woods guns and very accurate. I have resisted getting a .357 Sig barrel but I feel a purchase coming on......
I had that same problem, but I used the .357 Sig follower. I think at least with the Gen4 you need to have a G31/32/33 spring, and maybe even an actual .357 Sig mag, not just a different follower.
I remember as a kid, my grandfather carried a Ruger Blackhawk or Redhawk, can't totally recall the exact model but it was in .357 mag. I was 10 and we were hunting, a grizzly wandered into elk camp. I was in the door of the tent facing my grandpa and all the sudden his face went cold, he drew and shot. Those flames out the end of that barrel, I'll never forget that. Two years later I got to carry a .38 special while hunting. I guess if anyone reads this they'll wanna know, yes bear was killed. Once my grandpa shot my dad and uncles all shot their rifles or pistols. Bout 8 of them. Sounds like overkill but you can't be to careful with a grizzly. I know there's one shot and drop on them but there's also a bunch that have eaten lead like cereal and attacked with a heart shot to hell. When I hunt now I actually just carry a .40 200grain hardcast as a sidearm. Great penetration and you can follow up much quicker than a mag or 10mm. I usually just run into black bear or cougars now anyway but the ability is still there. I highly recommend .40 200 grain hardcast to anyone that has a tough time with grip strength or arthritis. It doesn't make you want to amputate your arm after shooting it. I'm fine with whatever but I convinced my dad and grandpa to make the switch, it's helped them both a lot.
Agree totally on the blast and recoil with the Glock 32-it can be a handful, especially with the Underwood 125gr ammo(my preferred load). Great video as usual, 45.
He is spot on about the 357 Sig. Try shooting it during low light conditions. The fireball coming out of the barrel is amazing. If you don't let it intimidate you mentally you will not much know the difference from the 40. The Glock 31 may be easier to shoot than the smaller versions for some people. The bigger and heavier the gun the less felt recoil. You may be thoughtful of over penetration for carry use. The 10 mm with quality rounds will get 18 inches of penetration. That's 2 peoples worth. I imagine the 357 is similar. Novice shooters may want to start off with something else especially women. I personally carried it in a Sig 239 for years and switched over to the Glock 30S which I am very happy with.
That is weird about Glock mags/follower because Sig Sauer (who developed the .357 SIg) does not have that problem. Their .40 mags and .357 mags are the EXACT same mag. There is no .40 mag and .357 mag. They make one mag that says .40/.357 on the mag. I wonder if Glock made a different follower to sell more mags?
This is not true of all Glock mags...most work fine,,,they had a certain short stretch of mags that had issues. As Hickok has soo many older magazines, he ran into this problem with one or two...
I personally believe the mag spring was his issue. Glock uses the same spring in the 27 and 23 mags, which I find strange given they have a difference of 4 rounds. But it makes sense, as he said the rounds were hanging up on the feed ramp. They didn't fully come up to the feed lips before the slide tried feeding the round. I discovered the same issue using 23 mags in my 27.
I've owned and shot my Glock 32 for a few years, and while I still rely on it for EDC, I can definitely understand why .357 SIG is no trendsetting caliber by any means. Cheapest practice rounds I can find bulk are 124 grain FMJ for around 27 cents a round online after shipping with a discount code. Oof. The blast and recoil is simple enough to get over, but like Hickok said, it takes practice and a lot of rounds to stay sharp, and it's dicey-pricey.
@@CaptainShuffles Just checked Ammoseek. Cheapest 9mm in stock = 50 cents a round and that is steel cased ammo. Cheapest 357Sig ammo = 40 cents a round and that is free shipping and brass cased. .40 S&W = 42 cents a round - nice brass cased ammo.......
10mm isn't as pricey but you definitely have to practice with it I often bragged about my Glock 29 until I stopped shooting it for a while couldn't believe how much I fell off
I own a Sig 229 in .357 and it came with a .40 Cal barrel as a bonus. In 3 years of experience I agree with most of your thoughts. Ammo cost is a killer w/.357 but good self defense Ammo in any caliber is. I like shooting .357 Sig and use that barrel for carry. I shoot it well and its advantages (real or Imagined) make sense to me. Recoil or muzzle blast have never been noticeable to me. I honestly shoot both rounds and use the 2 barrels equally. I don't believe in practicing with something different than I plan to use.
.357 sig is my favorite round... yes I read all the specs and once you get out of the .32’s and .22’s and into real rounds, the only spec that counts is shot placement. I end up shooting A fair amount of paper and for me, the groups I make with .357sig are astonishing. I don’t shoot as much as hicock45 but I do buy powder by the 8# and primers by the 5K. I’m a 1911 guy but these days I mostly shoot .40S&W only because my wife and I have matching 96’s so thats what we shoot together. Love the .357sig.
Well, in fairness, hickock45 is very careful never to offend any particular camp. If you want a review of the cartridges that is not really a strong side.
I think his approach in that way is just being realistic. People associate themselves with a particular camp and everyone else is just wrong. He does have his own personal preferences, but I'm sure he understands that each camp has some valid points, but there's no such thing as "best" for everyone in every situation. Sometimes trying to convince someone of that can sometimes be nothing more than a waste of time. I can appreciate the variety that Hickok offers. There's a little something for everybody.
listen to what he is saying. he is making very intelligent points for both calibers. a 357 sig isn`t for everybody, it`s an expensive proposition for most in more ways than 1. for the majority the 40 is all they will ever need. I, personally, don`t care much for the 40. it`s a good defensive round but it is more expensive than a 9 and not much more effective with current premium ammo. If you are willing to forgo the expense and can tolerate the snappy personality of the 357...it does offer some margin of superiority in certain areas. Again...most would never need or realize the difference unless you had used the 9, 40, and 357 extensively. And no, the 45 acp is not a consideration for me. too much recoil, too slow to be reliable in all instances and too little capacity in a handy defensive weapon. Splitting hairs there, I know....but a 45 doesn`t have the range I like
Best to stick with that from my experience. Everyone else is obssessed with overpriced 9mm ammo so whenever I see empty shelves, there's always one box of .40 left, LOL...
I bought a conversion 357 sig barrel for my G27 and I love the combo. I feel that the recoil is less than with the 40 barrel but yes it’s louder and does have the muzzle blast. I really like the round, much cheaper now I reload for it.
Thank you for blessing us another wonderful video. Hearing the round being fired and followed by the music of the projectile hitting the target is like a lullaby. I'm 5'6" and carry concealed a full-sized M&P .40 easily, I love that round. When I visited my brother a few states away and he shot it, he was impressed by it compared to his Ruger 9mm. Thanks, again, for your wisdom and letting us watch you shoot.
I have the glock 27 as my edc. I have a LW 9mm and .357 conversion barrels. With just a barrel swap (& mag swap with 9mm to g26 mags) it can be 3 different calibers. I love the versatility with glock.
In the last year the only ammo I have consistently found in the gun shops was 40 S&W. This last year will keep me from buying any new firearms that use an uncommon caliber. I love the 40S&W I have been able to shoot it as normal for the last year. This is not true with my 22s and 38s even the 45 has been hard to find anything at times during the last year around here. Thanks again for another good video you Tennessee Lead Slinger
Personally, if i were to spend a buttload of money, i'd just go big or go home with the 50. Action express in a Desert Eagle. 2.50$ per round, but definitely an enjoyable experience
Biggest problem with a Desert Eagle(aside from size and weight)is they don't feed ammo well.I've found this true in any caliber from.357 magnum to .44 magnum.I've never shot it in .50 AE,.41 mag,or 440 Corbon mag.How is the recoil in .50 AE?Considering the size and weight of the gun I would imagine not too much recoil.Did you have any feed problems?Do you feel stopping power is that much more than a .44 mag enough to justify the expensive ammo?In a SHTF scenario I would think spare ammo,mags,and parts would quickly render the gun useless.
Jarrett Wisener Only fired one once. Cycling was a problem. Muzzle flash was a problem. Recoil was painful, and I fire .45 OM. and XDs 3.3. Hard to tell which end was the 'safe' end to be on. Just try hiding that thing in your pants.
FlyTour69 only 38¢ / round = 10mm. About 25% more ft-lb than the strongest 357SIG load... but only 8% more cost. The look on the robber's face when he gets hit with 1...priceless. :-) You don't even pack more rounds of 357SIG than a 10mm (0.40cal casing is exact same diameter as 10mm) in a given distance from the feed ramp, down to your pinky. ...a 9mm at least has that advantage over 10mm.
I have 50 years of shooting experience and 40 years of reloading, I have just bought my first pistol in 357 Sig (Sig 229 Legion). I like it a lot, and will soon buy another Sig in 357 Sig (239 SAS) as a carry piece. I have also started reloading for this caliber, and using the Dillon carbide die set, I have had none of the issues seen on other RUclips vids. You do have to set your headspace and bump the shoulder back as you do on any bottlenecked rifle round, but using a case gauge and checking that with the actual barrel is a piece of cake.
@@mrPauljacob: I mainly shoot my own reloads 124 grain Berry's plated flat nose (heavy plate), I have not chronographed these loads, but the Hodgdon load data indicates that I should be getting around 1,300 fps. They are pretty snappy loads.
The importance of practice is often downplayed in the caliber wars. I've shot regularly for two years, then had a long hiatus and the shot again for about two years. Shooting in my case means going to the range once a week or every two weeks and putting 50 to 100 rounds down range, this for four years in total with a gap in the middle. I'm an average shooter, what I mean is I don't learn particularly quickly and it doesn't come naturally, for some it does but not for me. Now, even after four years as described, I am nowhere near confident in my abilities that I would carry and not have to worry about shooting myself in the leg during the draw. Also I still flinch, jerk the trigger, limp-wrist it and have trouble finding a sight picture in a hurry. With more expensive ammo (I shoot regular 9x19mm) I would shoot even less. I don't think it is stressed enough how much time it takes to gain proficiency with a firearm, to a point where the gun becomes an aid rather than a distraction in a critical situation. Caliber in this regard is so trivial compared to practice, that the caliber wars become moot in my opinion (or at least in my case and for people of my skill level).
trefod, your so right. I want to recommend Front Sight Academy to you. Its in Nevada. They offer a 2 day or 4 day defensive pistol course that will get you well trained in the basics including malfunctions. Its a great value too. I went to the 4 day, and am much better. I was already a good shooter, but I saw people who had never picked up a hand gun before who ended up shooting well. But if you can't make it, you should get training somewhere for sure.
TheVoidReturnsNil We don't have civilian carry, but we do practice as if we had. We are allowed to dream and fantasize on range :-) Especially if you're into IPSC or other "practical" disciplines there are a lot of handling beyond mere shooting... And the more of this there is, the more there is to learn.
great video. some good knowledge here that i didn't know for sure. I had a sig sauer p2022 .40 cal a while back and the magazine said .40 / .357 and I wasn't sure about the ease of interchangeability between the two. Thanks for the education!
All of my .40 cal mags work with my .357 sig conversion of my Glock 27. 300 rounds so far and no issues with the .357 sig conversion for me. My barrel is a Stormlake 40 to .357 conversion barrel.
This man is so real. He doesn't talk down to his viewers; just explains his opinion and shares what he's learned with the world. You're the shit Hickock!!!
Perry Hughes I totally agree. There are other good channels, but he makes it fun to learn. He's the reason I went with the LCR from Ruger for my everyday carry. Hickock45 4 liiiiife!
HickDick LOL 😆
i wouldn't call him that to his face
Part of that reasoning is he was an English teacher. Very good at communicating with people.
Apparently he’s not fond of cannibis users and Kentuckionians.
I am a Veteran from Afghanistan and Iraq. I personally carry concealed the 357 Sig. I know how the 9mm and various other cartridges work on human targets. I have seen a lot of them first hand. Here is a little input, what most people wont tell you about them.
From our perspective, Virtually every pistol round is nearly identical for the most part, with the exception of rounds with rifle like speeds that cause enormous wound channels. They move at a velocity of only 900 to 1200fps, Pretty much right at the speed of sound and no matter what caliber you get, Its limited like that. 45ACP, 9mm, 380, 40SW 38special and even the 22 calibers. All fire about the speed of sound. The practice of using it effectively to incapacitate a violent attacker hyped up on adrenaline is pretty much to dump the entire magazine into the target. Its kinda brutal. Watch how police do it using their 9mm glocks. They have a backup officer, and both of them will shoot an entire mag into the target. Thats just how its done with 9mm. They pull the trigger til the magazine is empty then call an ambulance. Thats the police combat training method of self defense with 9mm. Its also the same for the military with that caliber.
Higher velocity rounds work different. For example rifle rounds. Lets consider the 30-30 rifle. They dont need to be as heavy. They move much faster and that speed translates to a different type of wound channel that is noticeably more effective in combat and in self defense.
We can all agree that a single shot of 30-30 is far more effective at doing the job than a single shot of 9mm.
30-30 ammo is very light. Its normal bullet weight ranges between 125gr and 170gr. While the most common rounds are around 140 grain bullets. Its velocities are in the range of 2000ish feet per second.
357 Sig has one thing that most other pistol bullets out there dont have. Velocity. And a lot of it. This is what separates it from the crowd. While its not literally 30-30 level of power, the 357 sig ammo routinely hits and exceeds 1500+ feet per second using 125 grain bullets, 115gr bullets are over 1700fps. Rifle like speeds. Grizzly Ammo makes a 357 sig with a 90 grain Hollow Point when shot out of a 4 inch barrel will achieve 1900 feet per second at 721 foot pounds of energy. That is indeed within the realm of rifle like velocities, and energy slightly higher than a 10mm.
The 357 sig reacts in ballistics gel like a rifle bullet. Likewise it would in self defense.
The 357 sig is in my opinion, The single most deadly automatic pistol bullet ever made in a Glock automatic frame from the factory. Its a true manstopper every bit equivalent to the 10mm in automatic hand guns which also top out around 600ish foot pounds of energy. The Sig chambered pistols just does it in a smaller frame that normal people can grip.
While it is true that modern police have switched back to the 9mm, we have all heard about it, That doesnt mean its the best for stopping a person that breaks in to your home at night. Police Departments have taken measures to reduce police involved deaths over the years, and the 9mm is good for incapacitating a suspect; ~ and at the same time a quick hospital visit can most of the time save that suspects life. Fewer deaths puts the Police Departments in a better light when it comes to PR. Thats what a lot of it is really about. Keep the police related deaths numbers down.
If you want tiny teeth, buy a 9mm. If you want serious wolf fangs that can take down multiple gunmen shooting up a place you might be stuck in, or maybe 5 men armed with ballbats that break into your home at night, Get a 357 Sig or a 10mm. It just takes less rounds to incapacitate each target. You wont have to reload near as much to do the same job. How prepared for what scenario do you want to be?
If you get mobbed by an ANTIFA crowd beating and kicking you to death with Skateboards and two by fours, will you have the capacity to incapacitate only one of them? Or can you take enough of them down to stop the attack entirely. Then have an extra round in the chamber for that one stupid guy who still wants to whack you with his skateboard even after you have fired your weapon? You decide what you are prepared for.
It kicks harder. Yes. Train with a 9mm. Carry a 357 for protection. Problem solved. When your life is on the line, You will appreciate the extra horsepower behind each round. You wont care if your hand is a little sore afterwards either. Better that than dead.
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A lot of you guys seen the Texas Church shooting. Where the ANTIFA guy went into the church with a shotgun and started shooting members. The gunman was stopped with one shot. One round dropped that ANTIFA guy like a sack of potatoes. That round was a 357 Sig round from a conceal carry. It only took one round. Thats the real deal performance of this round in real life scenario that you can examine yourself. Watch the video yourself and see how it works. Its loud, and has a muzzle flash too!
nypost.com/2019/12/29/texas-church-shooting-leaves-2-dead/
@@firesnake6556 The shooter was a homeless dude, that used to hang out near the church with his brother, when his brother died, he became a bit more crazy.
As far as home defense protection goes I’m still sticking with a 12 gauge 3” magnum 00 buckshot. Not many buckshot survivors out there. I hope to someday get a .357 Sig pistol. I like the 9mm and the .45 and I carry the S&W M&P Shield with Federal HST 230 +P JHP ammo and amazingly expands very well in this short barrel pistol. You made some great points in your post!!!
Just my opinion but 10mm almost has same velocity but heavier bullet.I also love the 357 sig.Ill take 10mm then 357 sig all day good information bro
.357 Sig is great for stopping active Church shooters with just one round.
It's really underrated, it seems to have some popularity only in USA
Oh yeah even from your house 5 blocks down the street from the church lol 😂
"Oh he might have gone on livin'
but he made one fatal slip
for the boomer there amongst them
had a .357 Sig.
3-5-7 Siiig."
Yes , Nice shot , very nice shot
It was a headshot
Owning 9mm, 40 s&w, .357 sig, and .45 acp and gap firearms, I really think it comes down to selecting what caliber you are able to shoot the best.
Have to do scientific testing on ANTIFA and Domestic Terrorists to see how effective each round is.
i agree i own every caliber but 357 and have shot just about every caliber under the sun. I prefer my glock 10mm.
@@jessecolvett6391 If an intruder breaks into your home at night, are you going to grab a 380 or 9mm conceal carry, or do you want that 10mm in your hand?
My point exactly.
If you want the 10mm in your hand in that situation, then carry what makes you feel safe because it gives you sound mind that it will work when needed.
10mm and 357Sig take some training to get used to, but once you are adapted, Its aweful nice to have it protecting you and your family. Thats for sure.
@@jessecolvett6391 I deeply appreciate both the 10mm and the 357 Sig.
The thing is, The 10mm comes in large frame pistols only, making it difficult to conceal carry.
The 357Sig comes in a smaller medium frame pistol. It comes in a Glock Subcompact. The Glock 33. Its still very high energy and high velocity. Its just a lot more concealable, smaller and lighter than any 10mm on the market. Thats all.
So I can have that power, and conceal it too.
@@firesnake6556 No .45 acp??
I am from 6 years in the future and Hickok still hasn’t missed a two liter.
Haters will say he edits the misses out, but don't listen.
@@JRH6271 right like he doesn’t miss on camera…haters 😂😂😂
Those two liters get squirly (trying to get away :)
Lol he definitely misses some 2 liters, but he sure don’t miss many
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One of the most humble down to earth firearm review channels on the net. He never talks down to anyone or about anything he just gives good legit non bias reviews. EVERY gun I’ve ever bought I’ve watched him review it first
Oh it gets there quickly or does it
Hickok45 is no poseur: no gym-rat tee shirt that's three sizes too small, no pointy tattoos, no Tactical Mall Operator clothing, no action-hero production. 100% authentic.
Just got a G32 and have added it to my EDC rotation. The .357 SIG round was highly recommended by a retired law enforcement friend of mine that I greatly respect. I also have a P226 and P229 .357 SIG pistols. Love 'em too.
2 liter bottles tremble on the shelf when Hickok45 walks in the store.
You should see the flower pots when he walks into Garden World lol
😂
Good one.😁
lol
😂2 liter exploded when he aims at it, without firing a round ,2 liter knew what was going to happen after seeing the others and decided to take the easy way .😂😂😂🤣
I bought a Glock 23 (Gen 2) new in 1997 and carried it off-duty and on-duty in plain-clothes as a police officer and since I retired. Still love this pistol! Knock on wood, still not one misfire or mis-feed. Out of the box, fired more than 500 rounds and thousands more since! From “shoot-or-die confrontations to the range, she has never let me down. While I appreciate the rail-flashlight capability of my G23 Gen 4, my Gen 2 is my preferred weapon of choice. Keep on keeping on, Hickok45!
I used to hate the 23 but after years of shooting 9mm and 45 I returned to the 23 and 27 and it's now just a joy to shoot and it's very accurate . Also 40 isn't as expensive as 45 either.
Most knowledgeable firearm reviewer on RUclips hands down!! I still laugh every time you “smoke some pot”.
my boyfriend is obsessed with you- your videos are very informative for us rookies : )
@tyra696 you look like my cousin raven. wow
shannonandsheila1 LOL!!
Bewwwwbs
Everyone was a rookie
ya right
That was pretty damn impressive yardage with the .357 Sig, nice shooting!!
Notice how fast that 357 sig bangs on that gong versus the 40 a bit longer delay to get there. That 357 sig is definitely a favorite of mine it's a beast
@Flamming Remy 🤣😹😹😹😹
@flammingremy7263 I think the idea is “On a moving target, the extra delay from rounds like 40 SW and 45 ACP may effect your ability to get effective rounds on target”. How’s that? I don’t think anyone is saying you can play a high intensity game of dodgeball with 40. 😂
You can't tell the difference! You act like you can't you cant!
@@frankmckee7803 I can tell the difference.
@@Xavier_Coogat_the_Mambo_Kinggreat job two thumbs up
I purchased a Sig Sauer P226 and P229 in .40SW as government trade ins and decked them both out with Gray Guns and upgraded Sig internals. Then both were fitted with Bar-Sto barrels to convert them to .357 Sig. I love the round so much. Really wish it was more popular.
Sig’s magazines are marked .357 Sig / .40 SW thankfully.
My 2 favorite rounds!! I definitely feel a pretty significant difference in the blast, noise level, and recoil on the .357 sig. that’s coming from an M&P 2.0 compact at least. Love both rounds but prefer the .357 a bit more.
never gets old watching your vids. thanks hickok45
I like both. My M&P .40 currently has a .357 Sig barrel in it. The M&P .40 mags are labeled for both, and work flawlessly.
Yes 👍 they sure do love my Smith & Wessons
One thing I hate about Glock is they design .357 Sig magazines STRICTLY for that caliber. You cannot fit .40 rounds and use them! Even if you do, it will jam with every shot. If you have both calibers, ONLY buy .40 magazines and make sure that caliber is stamped on the magazine plate. .357 magazines are only for that and they almost never work with .40.
I have 3 2.0s in 40sw with KKM 357sig barrels ( my 3.5 compact has a 40sw to 9mm.
barrel as well)
@@largol33t1It appears this gentleman used the same mags ....????
Thanks for another great video. I carried a 40 s&w in my law enforcement career for a number of years and absolutely loved it! A couple of years ago, my agency mandated 357 Sig as THE caliber of use and issued me a new Glock 31. Now that the cussing and groaning is over, I can say that I have grown fond of the round. I do reload for it as that's the only way to get to the range and keep my off-duty G33 fed on typical LEO pay. Thanks again for another entertaining and informative vid. Keep them coming!
I've watched this video for several years. Got so interested every time, I just got around to "likeing" it. Nice job H45.
I am so impressed with this guy. Hickok45 doesn't know how to fail. I've watched a BUNCH of his videos and all of them are excellent. I nominate him for the gun reviewer God of RUclips. I have learned so much from him.
Thank you so much for all of your great work, hickok45!
Bought a Sig 229 in 357 sig when first introduced. Loved it and carry it on a daily basis ! Shoots like a lighting bolt from Zeus
I'm a deputy in rural West Tennessee. Been carring a Glock 32 for the past couple of years. I personally would not carry any other caliber in a duty weapon. It shoots flat and hits hard. I was qualifing last week. At the ten yard line the bullet was hitting the berm and splashing mud on my hat. That is hard hitting. Recoil wise if you are concentrating properly the felt recoil is minimual. It does take practice but it can be done. Thanks for the tip on the Talon grips. They are awesome.
If Beretta made the Px4 Storm in .357 Sig, I'd get it. For now, I'm using the Px4 Storm subcompact in .40 S&W for lawful concealed carry.
I love everything about the Px4 except the safety. Feels like the gun is biting me every time I rack the slide. Think it's time to trade in my px4 45 for something with no safety. Or at least better safety placement
Beretta offers a slimmer safety lever. I'm satisfied with my Px4 Storm subcompact. Good luck!
Different strokes for different folks I guess. My glock 19 has never had a failure to feed or eject, and I have shot the gauntlet of range rounds through it. I have shot federal HST, federal 115 +p+, hornady critical defense, and Speer gold dot +p. Plus I am way more accurate with it than my px4 (the same px4 that has had 3 failures to load in my last 2 range visits) I will say I recently rented a glock 43 as a potential concealed carry weapon, and I didn't like the trigger on it at all. So not just a glock fanboy, but when it comes to protecting myself, id always grab the 19 over the px4
I got a leo friend.... he likes 45acp.
I honestly love the .40 it's more powerful than 9mm and even .45acp, also it has the most success in 1 shot stops than any other caliber according to police shootout records. A lot of ppl hate on it and say its too snappy. I felt that way when I first started shooting it but 1000s of rounds later I have learned to manage recoil well enough that I can shoot it just as well as 9mm and have that extra power. I usually carry a Walther PPQ M2 with Federal HST .40s&w and I feel very confident that it will do the job if I need it.
Modern 9mm ammo has more velocity & ft lbs of energy than .40s&w 9mm is the best hands down more rounds too 💯🤷♂️
1 shot stop is fools gold. What LEO is going to shoot 1 shot and then assess, rather than shooting until the suspect is immobilized? BTW - people on a suicide mission don't go down after one shot. Only the people who want the LEO's to call an ambulance (or want to exit the firefight) go down after one shot.
The exception will be hits to vitals or "T" zone, and that has everything to do with luck/accuracy and less to do with caliber.
@@TheTexan99 modern 9mm ammo doesn't come close to 40 cal. The comparison you're making is hot loaded 9mm vs a simple target round 40 cal. Hot loaded 40 cal is way more powerful and just as fast as 9mm. Do your research.
@@TheTexan99 you’re comparing high end 9mm rounds to fmj or target .40 rounds. Find the same “modern 9mm ammo” in .40 s&w and it will be faster and stronger than its 9mm counterpart. Don’t know why you 9mm worshippers seem to think 9mm is a stronger round when in fact it scientifically isn’t.
@@TheTexan99 Big deal. You wind up having to put 2-3 more rounds into the bad guy to stop him. Either is fine for self defense. And 9mm ONLY has more energy than .40 if it's overloaded +P ammo, which is not a good idea with most handguns. .40 is derived from cutting down the shell of the massive 10mm Auto round, which is equal or even more powerful than .44 Magnum.
I've had a few Ruger .357 Magnums and they were fun to shoot but I've never really had the motivation to get the 357 Sig.
Hickok had to talk me into the 40 S&W (G27, then a G23) but I'm glad that he did. I bought the 9mm conversion barrel/magazines but leave it in 40 most of the time at the range. The conversion has been 100% for me with the proper magazines, I'm just liking the 40 these days.
Hickock, I have a 229 357 sig. it’s my favorite out of my collection. I have become very accurate with it. Even a few key wholes at 50 feet from time to time. You’re an inspiration to all gun lovers. Great video’s.
Every time I watch one of your videos I am reminded that I need more practice, lots more practice.
I used to own a .357sig made by Sig Sauer...nice gun. But, I traded it for a 9mm as ammo was expensive, and it had some kick, but main reason was the studies that show that .357 sig will over penetrate....not good as a CCW where engagement could happen in a public setting....would not want to chance hurting an innocent behind a wall or behind the perp that was engaged if ever faced with that situation because the round went through the target and injured someone else...pretty hot round. The regular .357 magnum has the same issue. Nice videos Hickok45....
Great comparison, hickok. Much more insightful and entertaining than the same old 9mm vs .45 debate.
Seriously. People act like those are the only two calibers in the world. Personally I think we should start the 45 vs 455 Webley debate 😂😂😂
Thank you for another awesome video. My brother and I took his Ruger 9mm and my M&P .40 to the range. After firing the M&P, he ditched his Ruger.
I found my buddy’s Glock 357sig a little bit on the high recoil side. On the other hand, afterwards I purchased an Sig Sauer Nightmare full size (1911 stainless steel frame) and the extra weight balanced it beautifully. Recoil seems much less and it is quite an accurate gun.
I owned a Glock 23 and it stayed a .40.Later,I bought a Sig SP 2340 in .40 and soon after got a .357 Sig conversion kit.I didn't see that much difference between them but normally carried it in .40 simply because it cuts a (slightly) bigger hole.A bigger hole to leak from is a good thing IMHO.But really I don't see that much difference and they'll both put a guy down.They're both good and I think it's largely a matter of personal preference.They are both good,effective rounds and certainly superior to a 9x19mm.
My identity is not important or relevent The sheer "speed on impact" of the .357sig will create a wider wound channel, than the bigger .40 caliber. Speed is just as devastating as size and weight. Or at least a huge part of the results that we aspire to achieve. Both rounds are VERY capable. But, ballistically....the .357sig is superior.
@@jamiesloan5902 add the 357sig will more likely pass through and you've got one hell of an exit crater.
@@ChrisPowell-MerleApAmber that’s my biggest concern over penetration. You don’t want that bullet to create exit wounds you wanna stop the threat right then and there. I love my 40s but 357. Sig would be more of a recreational range gun for me if I ever decide to own one.
The first Glocks 357 Sig came with 40 S&W mags. I got a new Glock 31 when they first came out and it came with two 40 S&W mags.
They are .40 S&W mags. All of them. The case is .40 S&W.
Glock 35 does the same thing, .40 Cal, 357 sig, and 9 mm. With kkm barrel or lone wolf, there are other barrels available. I personally like the Glock 35 and the Glock 21 due to versatility. Another good video. I was in the gun shop yesterday and they had your video playing in there. Absolutely loved it. Very informative!
Hickok.... I really appreciate that you don't bad mouth any weapon. That sets you apart from all the others where you discuss the differences in weapons based on features of it and not all the other stuff that people get so tangled up in. With the sound created from shooting outdoors, I can only imagine shooting it indoors. Thank you for being an honest non-biased shooter.
As a reloader I'll take the 40 s&w. Cheaper to reload and makes for more practice shooting. And practice makes perfect.
Great video, as always. I'll stick with .40 S&W in my H&K USP Compact for my carry.
Quothraven I have the H&k 40 usp full size
I'll stick with my .357sig.. 31
I like the Sig round. It's a good cartridge. I usually use either 9x19mm or .45ACP, but I do like the Sig. I especially like that buy simply buying a couple extra barrels and a few 9mm magazines one can convert a handgun like the S&W M&P .40 to reliably fire .40S&W, .357 Sig AND 9x19mm Parabellum all out of the same pistol!
Why does everyone shoot 9 and 45? Why not 9 and 40 or 40 and 45?
40 is more powerful than both cartridges, and has less recoil than the 45... plus more capacity.
Gunslinger 454
Are you referring to the full size M&P? I was wondering if I could use a 40cal barrel in my first Gen S&P shield 9mm.
Any thoughts
Gunslinger454 Im a big fan of the "barrel swap trio" myself hahaha, I just glock it instead of M&P's :-)
I say own one of every kind of gun then you will be covered......
And then carry one of every kind of gun for maximum tactical readiness
then one in compact then one if full size...
Testify!!!!
no
Preeeach
With it being 2020, the ammo has gone down in price since I first started shooting Sig 357 a few years back. I converted my Glock 27 over and love it. I bought several followers from Midway and replaced them in my mags. Shooting the 357 and 40 cal with these followers, I have YET to have any FTF or FTE. and you are correct about the " blast ". It is noticeable. Thanks again for the great videos.
Hickok, thanks for all the videos... you are like my go-to guy for firearms information.
I love the caliber debates and I hope they continue. It would be really boring to actually know which one is "best."
TN6565 Uhh. As far as ballistics.....you just saw the best. .357 Sig. Or the 10mm..... Hmmm. Yup. You're right!!!!! lol
Then I won’t spoil everything by telling you that .40 is overall best (and obsoletes .45 while it’s at it).
Well there isn’t really a best they all serve they’re own unique purpose
@@jaycee30865.45 cal will never be obsolete.
I have a shooting lisence for almost 20 years and a conceal carry license 3 years. Believe it or not I went to the shooting range may be 4 or 5 times a year. Then after I had my concealed carry licence I decided to get more knowledge regarding diferent types of pistols. And one day I went to the internet and saw one of you videos, after that I continued to watch a lot of your videos and thats when it happened my interest for shooting grew up so much that I went to the gunshop and bought my very first concealed carry gun a Glock 32 gen3, I love it so much that I went and bought a Glock 27 gen4 (one of my favorites, because of the size and amazing shooting abilities) and lately I got a glock 30s. I now go to the range once a week! and I love it, and I belive one of the main reasons is because of you Hickok45, don't ever stop creating these amazing videos, they have been very educational and fun to watch. Best Regards...
What is a " shooting license " ?
Narcissist troll
Functions beautifully in my Sig P239. I also have the .40 and 9mm barrels for it. Love the versatility of this gun.
Same with my SIG Sauer p320 I have the set ups for 9mm and 357sig works absolutely beautifully
I love your honesty... I'm a 40 cal... I'm still staying. thanks
I own a Glock model 22 in .40 S&W and have a .357 Sig barrel for it which I enjoy shooting it very much. I have not experienced any failure to feed or eject with my Glock when shooting the 357 Sig barrel. I recently bought a 9mm conversion barrel and 3 Magpul 17 round magazines which I plan to test during my next trip to the gun range. I like having a single pistol I am able to shoot 3 different calibers in as ammo availability in one of the 3 calibers will be found during a SHTF situation. Keep the videos coming Hickok45!
a while back someone compiled the data of thousands of shootings involving police and federal agents and discovered that the pistol cartridges with the highest 1 shot stop ratio at center mass are the .40 S&W and the .357 magnum
and between those two cartridges you can have a light trigger, fast firing automatic with 15+1 of .40 or a slower firing revolver with a heavy trigger pull and a capacity of 6-8 shots of .357
when it comes to the type of weapon i agree that rifles and shotguns beat revolvers and handguns every day of the week but people trashing the .40S&W really need to pull their head out of their rear ends
another reason to consider .40 is that back during the newtown gun scare my local shops never ran out of .40 S&W
Problem with that statistic is the person didn't account for the fact that most all of his departments issued 40 cal. Then the agencies that issue 357 sig were involved in more shootings. The statistics them selves are greatly skewed.
rusty - it's a ratio .. a %. it doesn't matter so much how many of each as long as it's not like 1
The 40 cal can't even compare to a 357Sig for speed/energy/penetration, period.
However police usually shoot more than once with hanguns to stop a suspect
@@Lordlayton100 it has better stopping power
Man. hickok45 was the first gun channel I subscribed to, at a friends recommendation. I have watched plenty of tactical shooting videos for awhile, and fellow vet's channels. It's good to watch someone just have fun, without kit on, or telling you this caliber or nothing. He shares my appreciation for Glock, as well. I can't remember, but Hickok or anyone else who knows can chime in, on what his preferred Glock edc is. I think it's the 27? Anyway, thanks for the uploads. Always fun to watch. I've learned a lot from you.
Great video, very informative. I also appreciate the +/- being included for both calibers.
The man, the OG of reviews and honest opinions.
👍Good stuff. While lots of folks don’t like .357 or .40 I enjoy the 40SW over any other pistol cartridge I shoot. My SIG P229, Springfield 4” XD and SmithW 4006 handle the .40 cartridge great & these particular pistols were built/designed for them. I practice & carry Underwood or Minuteman ammo. 155 to 165 grain HP. If you have never shot .40 S&W, give it a try.
40 has been my favorite since 1997. I just switched to 357 Sig for weight savings. I usually carry 36 rounds. I carry all day long. The 357 Sig made a difference.
Boy let me tell you what,you have the best job in the world! love the video's baby! a single barrel change and oila
thank you for all you do for your audience,that's entertainment!!
I've had my 229 since the mid 90's. I just bought an M&P in 357 sig also. It is very nice shooting. and accurate. It is also the first cartridge I reloaded. Easy Easy
I am so jealous, I bought a house in a community so I am at the mercy of friends who live in the boonies to shoot. It must be awesome to go into your back yard and fire whatever you want.
go to firing range you can shoot sh** there
steven hill $30 an hour and 45 minutes from the house, a little inconvenient, though I go occasionally.
Tool0GT92 hehe where I live you can go to the range for 10 bucks a day and its only like 5 minutes away
Join a local fish and game mine is $45 a year and I can go whenever
Yeah I know what you mean, I'm looking to move and will buy a house with a little land, where I can set up a Range such as Hickok. Most ranges don't allow rapid fire, drawing from the holster, along with a few other minor rules. Plus it's nice to shoot something other than just paper targets at public shooting ranges.
I have carried a 31 Glock 357 sig as a deputy and as a bodyguard. 4 years ago I shot a guy in the leg which he lost 2 hours into surgery at the knee, it looked like he was hit with a 45 2 times. I swear by the sig round and I too swap to the 40. for deer, and hog hunting, and have killed 3 deer with the sig round at about 35 yards. I just love the 357 Sig.... Keep shooting my friend.
Do you recall what exact bullet/load you were using when you shot the bad guy? I always love to hear real world performance, even if it is a bit morbid, LOL
I've owned several G23's over the years and it's still my favorite all around use gun. Not to big to conceal easily, yet plenty big enough to shoot at the range comfortably and fun. I'm going to buy a .357 barrel for mine in a couple weeks when I get paid, AND at least 2-3 .357 specific mags to go with it after watching this vid. You can't go wrong with the Glock 23 👍
@rusty nuts after surgery, someone has to take him to jail!
Darkwolf David did he not pay his taxes?
@@michigunsanta8680 How did you like your 357 sig conversion barrel?
I bought 357sig barrel for my Beretta 96, everything you said about the 357 is true. I notice it at the range also...
The recoil impulse is sharper than the 40S&W. The 40 seems more drawn out, longer... and more comfortable.. My 357sig barrel sits on the shelf... I was also warned about problems with the Beretta after 30-40k rounds, frankly that's a lot of rounds before you need to worry. The 40 is my carry cal. period.... and I love my 357 but not the 357sig, it just sits....
great shooter... better person.
tanks for your simplicity..
I really like enjoy your videos
Hickock always a class act! What a smooth video!
Secret Service also uses the .357 sig
Hey man, if it's good enough to protect the president's kids, it's good enough to protect my kids.
Trouble is, it's more expensive. Costs more to be proficient with it, and it's not a super common round. The Executive's Watchmen may have a bunch of money laying around, but I'm a bit thrifty hahaha
I thought they used 5.7?
@@Bigfoottracker89 they do
@@Bigfoottracker89 While the U.S. Secret Service does use 5.7×28 mm, it goes with the FN P90 PDW. Their main sidearm is the Sig P229 in .357Sig.
Should've bought the rounds before July 1 2019
I thought they had Glock18s
Wow... from .357 to .40 in the blink of an eye! Great vid. Ty.
Both my 10 and 12-round Sig Sauer magazines have imprints stamped on them that say: "Sig Sauer .40/.357". I believe that means the mags are Sig Sauer certified to accept both rounds with equal approval by Sig Sauer. My 299 was purchased used, but almost brand new and I believe it was built around 1991 or 92. I bought it at a small gun shop in 2006. The prior owner didn't shoot it much. I doubt it had 500 rounds when I purchased it. To me today, it's a time piece, like an old fine watch. It even says: "SIGARMS INC" on the stainless-steel slider. It's a piece of history. The best part is that I now can change it from a 40 S&W to a .357 Sig in a few minutes while at the range. It's hard to find .357 FMJ target ammo for it. I ordered a few boxes of HPs for it and both rounds work perfectly with the Sig Magazines. I'm keeping this as a timepiece in a similar way that I'm keeping my pre-lunar Omega Speedmaster.
I am a huge 10mm fan but .45 and .40 are also in my collection and all have their place... for a carry gun either the .40 or .45 IMO
Another great vid...
I love the ballistics of the 10mm but it's not too common and it's not cheap. But I can't wait to start training with it.
James Maxwell i have a glock 29 its boss, one of my favorite guns to shoot
The recoil's not too bad on a sub-compact?
I wouldn't be too worried down here in Florida about that. Lethal force is lethal force, it's irrelevant whether or not it's a .22 LR or a 10mm JHP.
No argument here. But there's one problem, I won't be judged by 12 because I won't be arrested and tried in the first place. Justifiable use statutes in Florida, gotta love 'em.
You made some great points, as always. I think it has that "wow" factor to it, which makes it a very attractive choice. It's definitely a good round to bring up in conversation. It's speed is almost unchallenged in auto-loaders(besides the 10mm). If it were as cheap to shoot as other rounds, it would be more of the obvious choice for carry, I think. Except for the 10mm in bear country. I don't really know what to think about it......still confused. lol
I like my 40. have never felt the need for more. A great round even for woods carry. Accurate and managible recoil plus stopping power for anything in the woods. No regrets!
agree ✓✓
I'm a big 10 mm fan but I also have a 40S&W Glock I shot a 150 lb bore hog about 75 yd away angled in from the front of the hip on one side and it exited out the the opposite shoulder Yes with the 40 cal Smith and Wesson also had a friend with me that seen the whole thing.The 40 S&W is What some people calls short and week not so much 😂
Still carry my dinosaur 4013
Love my 40 also, shooting 165 grains, does all i want or need.
@@portlandaustin4053 here
I purchased the 32 about 6 months ago. Kept experiencing failure to feed. Bullet would nose against the barrel ramp base and hold the slide open. Finally after trying several different brands and types of ammo I sent the 32 back to GLOCK. It came back and the only thing I could see they did was change my magazine followers to number ones. Since that change the 32 has fired flawlessly !! Now totally happy with the 32. It's one of my carry guns and now that it's reliable I feel a hell of allot better with it.
For my .357 Sig I bought a complete GLOCK 33 upper on eBay years ago for $75.00 total. It always fired great with only 2 failures to go into battery in about 500 rounds. I was also given a GLOCK 32 barrel which I haven’t fired yet.
7/25/2018: 4 yrs since this video, 357Sig ammo has become way more available with more options AND it's now a lot more affordable. Only $.04-.05 cents more than 380s. I got a 1000 case (20/50 box) 125 gr Speer Lawman TMJ range ammo for $299.00 delivered to my door and HSTs per 50 box for $26.95. Only the 10mm out does the 357Sig. The rest can't even compare! ps: If ya really want to have some fun, try some Underwood 357Sig Extreme Penetrator or Extreme Defender(65 gr 2,100 fps)
Interesting review. I love the .40 S&W. I have since it first came out I had to have a gun chambered in .40, so I purchased one and I never really felt the need to go to the .357 sig. It is a bit of a designer cartridge, much like a pair of faddy jeans. I am sure it is really good and if I had shot that caliber like most I probably would like it. I have shot so many others like .22lr .38 special .357 mag .40 .44 mag 10 mm 9 mm .480 ruger and several others I have forgotten. Out of all of those I always seem to go back to two calibers that I like the most and that is the .40 and the classic .357 magnum. When I carried a gun I toted my .357 magnum revolver with a 4" barrel and seven shot cylinder. When it comes down to it , it seems to be a matter of personal preference. I say use the caliber you feel the most comfortable with and you will be happy. Thanks for the review.
Agree!
I have an M&P in 40 cal, and all of the mags are marked 40/357 sig...then you locate 9mm barrel and you instantly have 3 different guns.
I concur I love the 40 and 357 Magnum. Both are great woods guns and very accurate. I have resisted getting a .357 Sig barrel but I feel a purchase coming on......
I had that same problem, but I used the .357 Sig follower. I think at least with the Gen4 you need to have a G31/32/33 spring, and maybe even an actual .357 Sig mag, not just a different follower.
I was thinking about converting my Glock 35 to 357 sig with a drop in barrel. To my surprise your video answered a lot of things on this topic ❤
I remember as a kid, my grandfather carried a Ruger Blackhawk or Redhawk, can't totally recall the exact model but it was in .357 mag. I was 10 and we were hunting, a grizzly wandered into elk camp. I was in the door of the tent facing my grandpa and all the sudden his face went cold, he drew and shot. Those flames out the end of that barrel, I'll never forget that. Two years later I got to carry a .38 special while hunting.
I guess if anyone reads this they'll wanna know, yes bear was killed. Once my grandpa shot my dad and uncles all shot their rifles or pistols. Bout 8 of them. Sounds like overkill but you can't be to careful with a grizzly. I know there's one shot and drop on them but there's also a bunch that have eaten lead like cereal and attacked with a heart shot to hell. When I hunt now I actually just carry a .40 200grain hardcast as a sidearm. Great penetration and you can follow up much quicker than a mag or 10mm. I usually just run into black bear or cougars now anyway but the ability is still there. I highly recommend .40 200 grain hardcast to anyone that has a tough time with grip strength or arthritis. It doesn't make you want to amputate your arm after shooting it. I'm fine with whatever but I convinced my dad and grandpa to make the switch, it's helped them both a lot.
Hickok45 is the best gun reviewer on RUclips in my opinion
Hickok you are the king of sarcasm mate.
Agree totally on the blast and recoil with the Glock 32-it can be a handful, especially with the Underwood 125gr ammo(my preferred load).
Great video as usual, 45.
That ammo must be close to $40/20 now!
DAMN!!! HE'S A GREAT SHOT!!!
NICE!! THANKS FOR LOADING!!!
He is spot on about the 357 Sig. Try shooting it during low light conditions. The fireball coming out of the barrel is amazing. If you don't let it intimidate you mentally you will not much know the difference from the 40. The Glock 31 may be easier to shoot than the smaller versions for some people. The bigger and heavier the gun the less felt recoil. You may be thoughtful of over penetration for carry use. The 10 mm with quality rounds will get 18 inches of penetration. That's 2 peoples worth. I imagine the 357 is similar. Novice shooters may want to start off with something else especially women. I personally carried it in a Sig 239 for years and switched over to the Glock 30S which I am very happy with.
That is weird about Glock mags/follower because Sig Sauer (who developed the .357 SIg) does not have that problem. Their .40 mags and .357 mags are the EXACT same mag. There is no .40 mag and .357 mag. They make one mag that says .40/.357 on the mag. I wonder if Glock made a different follower to sell more mags?
This is not true of all Glock mags...most work fine,,,they had a certain short stretch of mags that had issues. As Hickok has soo many older magazines, he ran into this problem with one or two...
Oh, ok. That would make sense.
nowadays the mag is Totally interchangeable
I personally believe the mag spring was his issue. Glock uses the same spring in the 27 and 23 mags, which I find strange given they have a difference of 4 rounds. But it makes sense, as he said the rounds were hanging up on the feed ramp. They didn't fully come up to the feed lips before the slide tried feeding the round. I discovered the same issue using 23 mags in my 27.
james daniel I got a 13 round and 22 round extended mag that says .40 on them.
.40 and 9 and everything is fine.
I've owned and shot my Glock 32 for a few years, and while I still rely on it for EDC, I can definitely understand why .357 SIG is no trendsetting caliber by any means. Cheapest practice rounds I can find bulk are 124 grain FMJ for around 27 cents a round online after shipping with a discount code. Oof. The blast and recoil is simple enough to get over, but like Hickok said, it takes practice and a lot of rounds to stay sharp, and it's dicey-pricey.
How's about now? Every time there's a run on ammo, 357sig is cheaper than 9mm!!
@@glockensig easier to find at retail than 9mm, but still the same prices, unfortunately.
@@CaptainShuffles Just checked Ammoseek. Cheapest 9mm in stock = 50 cents a round and that is steel cased ammo. Cheapest 357Sig ammo = 40 cents a round and that is free shipping and brass cased. .40 S&W = 42 cents a round - nice brass cased ammo.......
10mm isn't as pricey but you definitely have to practice with it I often bragged about my Glock 29 until I stopped shooting it for a while couldn't believe how much I fell off
I own a Sig 229 in .357 and it came with a .40 Cal barrel as a bonus. In 3 years of experience I agree with most of your thoughts. Ammo cost is a killer w/.357 but good self defense Ammo in any caliber is. I like shooting .357 Sig and use that barrel for carry. I shoot it well and its advantages (real or Imagined) make sense to me. Recoil or muzzle blast have never been noticeable to me. I honestly shoot both rounds and use the 2 barrels equally. I don't believe in practicing with something different than I plan to use.
Really enjoyed watching this video. Youre very informative and very skilled. Thanks for sharing
I agree Mr. HICKOK. I Love my .40 too from Glock. I have had a couple of different .40 before & I like them.
.357 sig is my favorite round... yes I read all the specs and once you get out of the .32’s and .22’s and into real rounds, the only spec that counts is shot placement. I end up shooting A fair amount of paper and for me, the groups I make with .357sig are astonishing. I don’t shoot as much as hicock45 but I do buy powder by the 8# and primers by the 5K. I’m a 1911 guy but these days I mostly shoot .40S&W only because my wife and I have matching 96’s so thats what we shoot together. Love the .357sig.
Hickok!! How has there not been a Massad Ayoob / Hickok45 video !!???!?
I could listen to you both go on for hours!
Wutang Clams I've met him a couple of times. Good guy. If I were in a video with him, the contrast would reveal my "dumbness" even more. :-)
@DrakeIsSix Why on earth would men wear a rug? I still cannot figure that one out.
Finding a round you can shoot straight is much more important than caliber.
hickock45 gets the point across everyone else on RUclips just blabbers around like idiots thank god for this guy he actually has validated points
Well, in fairness, hickock45 is very careful never to offend any particular camp. If you want a review of the cartridges that is not really a strong side.
PanzerKami well yeah but hes still cool
I think his approach in that way is just being realistic. People associate themselves with a particular camp and everyone else is just wrong. He does have his own personal preferences, but I'm sure he understands that each camp has some valid points, but there's no such thing as "best" for everyone in every situation. Sometimes trying to convince someone of that can sometimes be nothing more than a waste of time. I can appreciate the variety that Hickok offers. There's a little something for everybody.
listen to what he is saying. he is making very intelligent points for both calibers. a 357 sig isn`t for everybody, it`s an expensive proposition for most in more ways than 1. for the majority the 40 is all they will ever need. I, personally, don`t care much for the 40. it`s a good defensive round but it is more expensive than a 9 and not much more effective with current premium ammo. If you are willing to forgo the expense and can tolerate the snappy personality of the 357...it does offer some margin of superiority in certain areas. Again...most would never need or realize the difference unless you had used the 9, 40, and 357 extensively. And no, the 45 acp is not a consideration for me. too much recoil, too slow to be reliable in all instances and too little capacity in a handy defensive weapon. Splitting hairs there, I know....but a 45 doesn`t have the range I like
I've pretty much settled on the .40 as my edc. Great video HC45 as always and nice shooting!
Best to stick with that from my experience. Everyone else is obssessed with overpriced 9mm ammo so whenever I see empty shelves, there's always one box of .40 left, LOL...
I bought a conversion 357 sig barrel for my G27 and I love the combo. I feel that the recoil is less than with the 40 barrel but yes it’s louder and does have the muzzle blast. I really like the round, much cheaper now I reload for it.
What recipe do you use? I reload it with 147gr Hornday XTPs.
NEVER HAD A FEEDING PROBLEM WITH EITHER THE .40 OR THE .357 SIG
YELLING AGAIN I SEE!
Sorry just can't help it when I get excited. Try harder next time . Have a nice day.
+Lou Benvignati You aren't shooting enough to notice them.
Sir I beg to differ I go to the range twice a week on most weeks. What would I have more trouble with the .40 or the .357 sig.?
Lou Benvignati Ha I don't know then, you tell me.
The woods in the South sure are pretty in the spring!
Thank you for blessing us another wonderful video. Hearing the round being fired and followed by the music of the projectile hitting the target is like a lullaby.
I'm 5'6" and carry concealed a full-sized M&P .40 easily, I love that round. When I visited my brother a few states away and he shot it, he was impressed by it compared to his Ruger 9mm.
Thanks, again, for your wisdom and letting us watch you shoot.
i love my max 9! seriously though ,it really does wish it was a 357.
I have the glock 27 as my edc. I have a LW 9mm and .357 conversion barrels. With just a barrel swap (& mag swap with 9mm to g26 mags) it can be 3 different calibers. I love the versatility with glock.
In the last year the only ammo I have consistently found in the gun shops was 40 S&W. This last year will keep me from buying any new firearms that use an uncommon caliber. I love the 40S&W I have been able to shoot it as normal for the last year. This is not true with my 22s and 38s even the 45 has been hard to find anything at times during the last year around here. Thanks again for another good video you Tennessee Lead Slinger
To bad finding .40 in stock right now is like winning the lotto.. lead to me selling my USP :(
Great new for me and my glock 23
Love the Glock 32. Hate the $1 per round price of ammo.
Personally, if i were to spend a buttload of money, i'd just go big or go home with the 50. Action express in a Desert Eagle. 2.50$ per round, but definitely an enjoyable experience
Biggest problem with a Desert Eagle(aside from size and weight)is they don't feed ammo well.I've found this true in any caliber from.357 magnum to .44 magnum.I've never shot it in .50 AE,.41 mag,or 440 Corbon mag.How is the recoil in .50 AE?Considering the size and weight of the gun I would imagine not too much recoil.Did you have any feed problems?Do you feel stopping power is that much more than a .44 mag enough to justify the expensive ammo?In a SHTF scenario I would think spare ammo,mags,and parts would quickly render the gun useless.
Jarrett Wisener Only fired one once. Cycling was a problem. Muzzle flash was a problem. Recoil was painful, and I fire .45 OM. and XDs 3.3. Hard to tell which end was the 'safe' end to be on. Just try hiding that thing in your pants.
Derek Vazquezz Get it for as low as ¢35.4 a round on ammoseek.com.
FlyTour69 only 38¢ / round = 10mm. About 25% more ft-lb than the strongest 357SIG load... but only 8% more cost. The look on the robber's face when he gets hit with 1...priceless. :-) You don't even pack more rounds of 357SIG than a 10mm (0.40cal casing is exact same diameter as 10mm) in a given distance from the feed ramp, down to your pinky. ...a 9mm at least has that advantage over 10mm.
I have 50 years of shooting experience and 40 years of reloading, I have just bought my first pistol in 357 Sig (Sig 229 Legion). I like it a lot, and will soon buy another Sig in 357 Sig (239 SAS) as a carry piece. I have also started reloading for this caliber, and using the Dillon carbide die set, I have had none of the issues seen on other RUclips vids. You do have to set your headspace and bump the shoulder back as you do on any bottlenecked rifle round, but using a case gauge and checking that with the actual barrel is a piece of cake.
What kind of velocities are you getting with what bullet weights ??
@@mrPauljacob: I mainly shoot my own reloads 124 grain Berry's plated flat nose (heavy plate), I have not chronographed these loads, but the Hodgdon load data indicates that I should be getting around 1,300 fps. They are pretty snappy loads.
Thanks Hickok... You are the authority on side firearms. Good hearted, honest opinions.. Can't ask for more...
The importance of practice is often downplayed in the caliber wars. I've shot regularly for two years, then had a long hiatus and the shot again for about two years. Shooting in my case means going to the range once a week or every two weeks and putting 50 to 100 rounds down range, this for four years in total with a gap in the middle.
I'm an average shooter, what I mean is I don't learn particularly quickly and it doesn't come naturally, for some it does but not for me.
Now, even after four years as described, I am nowhere near confident in my abilities that I would carry and not have to worry about shooting myself in the leg during the draw. Also I still flinch, jerk the trigger, limp-wrist it and have trouble finding a sight picture in a hurry.
With more expensive ammo (I shoot regular 9x19mm) I would shoot even less.
I don't think it is stressed enough how much time it takes to gain proficiency with a firearm, to a point where the gun becomes an aid rather than a distraction in a critical situation. Caliber in this regard is so trivial compared to practice, that the caliber wars become moot in my opinion (or at least in my case and for people of my skill level).
trefod, your so right. I want to recommend Front Sight Academy to you. Its in Nevada. They offer a 2 day or 4 day defensive pistol course that will get you well trained in the basics including malfunctions. Its a great value too. I went to the 4 day, and am much better. I was already a good shooter, but I saw people who had never picked up a hand gun before who ended up shooting well. But if you can't make it, you should get training somewhere for sure.
Thanks for the tip, but I live in Denmark so Nevada is a bit far:-)
LOL.
trefod I didn't know Denmark had civilian carry -- or are you in a security/law enforcement/military profession?
TheVoidReturnsNil We don't have civilian carry, but we do practice as if we had. We are allowed to dream and fantasize on range :-)
Especially if you're into IPSC or other "practical" disciplines there are a lot of handling beyond mere shooting... And the more of this there is, the more there is to learn.
lol did we hear John laugh at the beginning? He's always been such a silent camera man.
great video. some good knowledge here that i didn't know for sure. I had a sig sauer p2022 .40 cal a while back and the magazine said .40 / .357 and I wasn't sure about the ease of interchangeability between the two. Thanks for the education!
I got into Federal Ammo because of Hickok45 and now it’s all I shoot. Love Federal and Hickok45. Thank you Federal
All of my .40 cal mags work with my .357 sig conversion of my Glock 27. 300 rounds so far and no issues with the .357 sig conversion for me. My barrel is a Stormlake 40 to .357 conversion barrel.