Darn you’re good! Looks so much better than earlier creations! Though to be truthful I wouldn’t really have noticed if you hadn’t drawn my eyes there! You really look stunning and that’s much better than perfect!
Good job! You have more fitting patience than I do. Working with 18th century fitted bodices at the moment, but they share similar characteristics, like fitted bodice made of multiple pieces that must fit smoothly. I already saved Dixie's video, and will add this to the playlist. Love your fun approach to costuming and the upbeat music!
Thank you! And you're right, they are similar, although I think 18th century is a little easier to me, because they aren't dealing with the same level of curves! 🤣 Glad you enjoyed!
Some of the drafting methods I have seen for Victorian bodices would automatically compensate for a full bust by scaling the pattern differently for slender versus stout or busty women, adjusting the segments of the bodice.
My 2nd era Victorian bustle outfit (lobster gown) was the hardest for me. Put me off sewing garments for awhile. I can't read a commercial pattern at all so draft everything myself. The skirt was a breeze and lots of fun to make. The tight bodice had me inventing new cusswords and I threw my mockup across the room. Finally ended up using some ruffles on the front to hide some problems. But, hey, it worked. (I have a sneaky suspicion that cusswords were originally invented by tailors of yore.)
I was actually originally going to draft the bodice! But my friend and I couldn't figure out the wonky apportioning scale for AGES from the book we had, so I needed something faster. But I admire you for having the brain to be able to self draft. Too much math for me 😵💫
Please do make sure to include a proper Lobster Castanet Dance in the final reveal of the completed dress! [/joke] Jokes aside, this was delightful (and reassuring; Victorian pattern drafting instructions fit me better than modern patterns, I just have to remember to size up 😂) and I look forward to seeing the final product and the return of the fabulous felted friend hat!
Thank you for another informative video! The Mad Lobster Gown is looking good! As it stands right now, I don't ever intend to do Victorian clothing but you never know. Maybe someday it will appeal to me. And thanks for the heads-up on the Black Snail patterns - the waist reduction was something I didn't realize about them. I love Dixie DIY! I've watched all of her videos several times and I hope she returns to RUclips soon. She's been away too long. 🧡💙
So glad you found it so! And yup, you never know! You may change your mind. Or you may not 🤷♀️ The Black Snail thing is hard to see in their patterns. They have it tucked away in a weird place 🙄 Thanks for watching!!
This is way beyond my skillset at the moment (and I'm wearing tailored Keystone as I watch) but it's given me a few things to add to my "Learn In 2025" list, so a big thank-you!
6:59 "We're approaching this just like we would approach fitting a Victorian corset" Okay that has actually blown my mind though. Completely new perspective on my bodice fitting, I feel like so many problems I've been having have been solved just by how that's changed how I'm thinking about them. Thank you!!!!
OMG yes! Victorian bodices are extremely complicated to fit, but you achieved the look! I'm currently working on my late-victorian coat pattern. Man, those freakin' curves! At first I thought 'Oh, I'll just slap those lines Mr Keystone instructs me on paper, adjust the size then tadaaa!' - No. No, and NO! I have a big difference between my waist and hip circumferences but boy, this one challenged my patience. The Keystone Guide is good, though I think they must've had something to smoke while writing that book, considering that "add a trifle to point xyz" (that's not even there yet because it has to be drafted two pages later) seems like a proper measurement for them...making you believe that you're the fool because why would you have one book that has all the instructions without having to reference 2648453 other ones that might not make you look like a fool??..and why the book would help you fit those garments, didn't you have enough instructions all over the place? :D Soooo yeah. Plus this all victorian style lines kind of thing needs to accomodate the fact that sometimes we just don't... well, don't feel like wearing a corset (which I looooove from the moment I tried mine on right after making it). So though I drafted the pattern, yay, amazing, unusable, I then drafted a bodice block, made a paper dummy out of it, I then copied the style lines and approximate ratios from the Keystone pattern to my paper mockup, adjusted the ease and all the goodies then finally, I'm currently in the stage of sewing up my first mockup out of fabric. (Right now, I do not wish to say what I would say to Mr Keystone though...but I think we all know what that would be. :D ) Wish me luck... :D Thank you for these videos, you're amazing!
😆 Right? Hah! Honestly, for me, some of it's bloat, but a lot of it has to do with being tired after 3, and when I'm tired I don't have much patience and get frustrated fast 🤷♀️
Honestly, it's not a choice for me, I just pinch it shut until it looks good, and whatever the shape is, it is. 🤐 I will say that the curved ones are probably better when you need it to flare out at the top and bottom, like over your hips, whereas the triangular ones just get smaller at the bottom. If that makes sense 🤔
Modern clothing is my bane atm. Stupid getting healthy and changing shapes. Stupid bodice blocks being all darty and curvy. Yeah, I just struggled through a basic block for the second time this year. 3 mock ups to get the armpit to stop doing that thing, and the sleeve is a nightmare of packing paper and masking tape.
@kerriemckinstry-jett8625 I feel ya. I have a yoga pants draft that became such a mess of paper and tape and shedded stretch knit scrap that it got moved into a bottom of the closet bin never to be seen again.
@@stormraynes1707 My condolences. Stretchy fabric can be a nightmare all on its own without being made into pants. I have definitely sewn both legs together down the center, resulting in penguin pants... 😂
The Victorians wouldn't have used a paper pattern either so I'm not sure why you were told not to do a FBA, that makes no sense to me. I'm honestly baffled because it's taking away the fit methods the Victorians used during the initial drafting stages and replacing it with Historical Purity??? Edit: They used segments and princess seams for custom corsets.
166 tall Short back narrow shoulders and shorter back then a size S dressform. Also ladies are high and wide so buy cloths in woven fabric impossible more or less
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That rant is so valid
Glad you think so! 🤣
Darn you’re good! Looks so much better than earlier creations! Though to be truthful I wouldn’t really have noticed if you hadn’t drawn my eyes there! You really look stunning and that’s much better than perfect!
Aw, thank you so much! I appreciate you! 😊 Thanks for watching!
Good job! You have more fitting patience than I do. Working with 18th century fitted bodices at the moment, but they share similar characteristics, like fitted bodice made of multiple pieces that must fit smoothly. I already saved Dixie's video, and will add this to the playlist. Love your fun approach to costuming and the upbeat music!
Thank you! And you're right, they are similar, although I think 18th century is a little easier to me, because they aren't dealing with the same level of curves! 🤣 Glad you enjoyed!
Some of the drafting methods I have seen for Victorian bodices would automatically compensate for a full bust by scaling the pattern differently for slender versus stout or busty women, adjusting the segments of the bodice.
Oh! That's cool! Which ones, do you remember?
My 2nd era Victorian bustle outfit (lobster gown) was the hardest for me. Put me off sewing garments for awhile. I can't read a commercial pattern at all so draft everything myself.
The skirt was a breeze and lots of fun to make.
The tight bodice had me inventing new cusswords and I threw my mockup across the room. Finally ended up using some ruffles on the front to hide some problems. But, hey, it worked.
(I have a sneaky suspicion that cusswords were originally invented by tailors of yore.)
I was actually originally going to draft the bodice! But my friend and I couldn't figure out the wonky apportioning scale for AGES from the book we had, so I needed something faster. But I admire you for having the brain to be able to self draft. Too much math for me 😵💫
I am also a person who needs to take and inch and a half off the bodice length. Will remember to revisit this when I make my next victorian bodice.
Being short waisted is such a pain! 😂 But yay, glad this will be helpful for you! Thanks for watching.
Please do make sure to include a proper Lobster Castanet Dance in the final reveal of the completed dress! [/joke] Jokes aside, this was delightful (and reassuring; Victorian pattern drafting instructions fit me better than modern patterns, I just have to remember to size up 😂) and I look forward to seeing the final product and the return of the fabulous felted friend hat!
LOL! Knowing yours truly, there probably will be something ridiculous like that in the reveal 😆 Goad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching!
The bodice is lovely!
Thank you! 😁
Thank you for another informative video! The Mad Lobster Gown is looking good! As it stands right now, I don't ever intend to do Victorian clothing but you never know. Maybe someday it will appeal to me. And thanks for the heads-up on the Black Snail patterns - the waist reduction was something I didn't realize about them. I love Dixie DIY! I've watched all of her videos several times and I hope she returns to RUclips soon. She's been away too long. 🧡💙
So glad you found it so! And yup, you never know! You may change your mind. Or you may not 🤷♀️ The Black Snail thing is hard to see in their patterns. They have it tucked away in a weird place 🙄 Thanks for watching!!
This is way beyond my skillset at the moment (and I'm wearing tailored Keystone as I watch) but it's given me a few things to add to my "Learn In 2025" list, so a big thank-you!
Aw, yeah! Glad it's inspired you! Good luck!
6:59 "We're approaching this just like we would approach fitting a Victorian corset" Okay that has actually blown my mind though. Completely new perspective on my bodice fitting, I feel like so many problems I've been having have been solved just by how that's changed how I'm thinking about them. Thank you!!!!
RIGHT??? When someone said that to me, I totally had a head exploding moment! Glad that helped you, too! ☺️
OMG yes! Victorian bodices are extremely complicated to fit, but you achieved the look! I'm currently working on my late-victorian coat pattern. Man, those freakin' curves! At first I thought 'Oh, I'll just slap those lines Mr Keystone instructs me on paper, adjust the size then tadaaa!' - No. No, and NO! I have a big difference between my waist and hip circumferences but boy, this one challenged my patience. The Keystone Guide is good, though I think they must've had something to smoke while writing that book, considering that "add a trifle to point xyz" (that's not even there yet because it has to be drafted two pages later) seems like a proper measurement for them...making you believe that you're the fool because why would you have one book that has all the instructions without having to reference 2648453 other ones that might not make you look like a fool??..and why the book would help you fit those garments, didn't you have enough instructions all over the place? :D Soooo yeah. Plus this all victorian style lines kind of thing needs to accomodate the fact that sometimes we just don't... well, don't feel like wearing a corset (which I looooove from the moment I tried mine on right after making it). So though I drafted the pattern, yay, amazing, unusable, I then drafted a bodice block, made a paper dummy out of it, I then copied the style lines and approximate ratios from the Keystone pattern to my paper mockup, adjusted the ease and all the goodies then finally, I'm currently in the stage of sewing up my first mockup out of fabric. (Right now, I do not wish to say what I would say to Mr Keystone though...but I think we all know what that would be. :D ) Wish me luck... :D Thank you for these videos, you're amazing!
I make adjustable costumes for my Etsy store and Victorian is very difficult. Can't just do drawstrings!
So true!!
How did the Victorians deal with the fact your body can be a different shape after dinner? 😂🤣
😆 Right? Hah! Honestly, for me, some of it's bloat, but a lot of it has to do with being tired after 3, and when I'm tired I don't have much patience and get frustrated fast 🤷♀️
It could be why they changed clothes every couple of hours. Put on something different at 3pm?
@ Aha!
How do you choose whether to make curved or triangular darts?
Honestly, it's not a choice for me, I just pinch it shut until it looks good, and whatever the shape is, it is. 🤐 I will say that the curved ones are probably better when you need it to flare out at the top and bottom, like over your hips, whereas the triangular ones just get smaller at the bottom. If that makes sense 🤔
@FantasticalFolliesCostuming thank you!
+12/0/+20 & short-waisted 😅
Modern clothing is my bane atm. Stupid getting healthy and changing shapes. Stupid bodice blocks being all darty and curvy. Yeah, I just struggled through a basic block for the second time this year. 3 mock ups to get the armpit to stop doing that thing, and the sleeve is a nightmare of packing paper and masking tape.
Oh noes! Yeah, modern clothing can be a pain. Especially if you're used to the more logical historical styles 🙄 good luck!
Modern pants are my nightmare. I tried making fitted pants once. That project exists as a bunch of scraps shoved somewhere or other. 😑
@kerriemckinstry-jett8625 I feel ya. I have a yoga pants draft that became such a mess of paper and tape and shedded stretch knit scrap that it got moved into a bottom of the closet bin never to be seen again.
@@stormraynes1707 My condolences. Stretchy fabric can be a nightmare all on its own without being made into pants. I have definitely sewn both legs together down the center, resulting in penguin pants... 😂
@@kerriemckinstry-jett8625 I am imagining a rather odd looking pencil skirt. LOL, but also have been there.
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Thank you! And thanks for watching! 😁
The Victorians wouldn't have used a paper pattern either so I'm not sure why you were told not to do a FBA, that makes no sense to me. I'm honestly baffled because it's taking away the fit methods the Victorians used during the initial drafting stages and replacing it with Historical Purity??? Edit: They used segments and princess seams for custom corsets.
Yeah, I found that advice very odd. I'm not sure where she got it from. I suspect they did not have boobs.
Why does yt delete my comment? Not anything offensiv with numbers and say me fail victorians measuments
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Does yt allow this then? 😂
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Short back narrow shoulders and shorter back then a size S dressform. Also ladies are high and wide so buy cloths in woven fabric impossible more or less
Lol write it as one comment it kept go away lol. Me a spammer now
YT is odd like that sometimes 🤷♀️
@@FantasticalFolliesCostuming it was so wierd. It went up and like 1 min later not to be seen again. So wierd
WHY WERE WE CURSED WITH THESE UNRELIABLE MEATSACKS?
Also, come visit me in Scotland and we can drink tea, eat cakes and do all the pattern adjustments
Curse those meatsacks!!!