One thing I rarely ever see brought up is the failed kickstarter for this game that was absolutely a scam. All tiers only got you chapter 1, and the kickstarter was to fund chapter 1. The kickstarter was poorly made in general and was very petty. However, when it completely failed, chapter 1 came out around 2 weeks after. It was absolutely shady as hell.
Hell yeah. There is a line between getting money to fund a game, and starting a fundraising just for money when the game is nearly done. And as you said, the fact that it came out a few weeks later, even though the fundraising flopped is very shady and suspicious. It would take a company a lot longer than a few weeks to finish a game with 'little to no funds' and so the fact that Chapter 1 came out as polished and smooth as it did is a very curious and tell tale sign of something not being right behind the scenes
My opinion on this genre of “cute mascots turning dark” is how it doesn’t fit with the demographic of 5-10 year olds at all when you think about the context of these games. The whole reason this genre was such an interesting trope from the start was how it would change your view on what you grew up with back then, heck, bendy’s description on steam even says “a game that will ruin your childhood for cartoons” And not to mention these games are based on properties from the 30s-90s. I think these types of games were originally meant to go for a demographic who grew up with these specific mediums from the past but are now grown up to experience darker subjects. Trying to actually give a game like this a brand friendly appeal kinda ruins the point on what this genre was likely trying to go for.
Yeah that's what I like about Bendy, the Bendy mascot is adorable but it gets twisted into this awful deformed Ink monster thats plot relevant. It doesn't feel targeted at kids simply because of the mascot. Poppy and Security Breach 100% do, sadly. It's why I prefer the old FNAF games and the latest one is just furry bait shoved in your face. And these videos explain the problem with Poppy.
I wouldn't say that it's for people growing out of kid related media because what is kid related media in the first place. Everyone can watch a cartoon for example no matter how old they get. Newer cartoon and animated movies even feature more deeper meanings that a kid simply can't understand. There are people that can be 20, 30 or more years old yet they still might watch a cartoon or animated movie that is worth it.
Fun fact: Last year, when I was in Year 9, we were making our own podcasts for English class. While most people went in groups and did their own topics, I went solo and made a whole podcast presented like a current affairs documentary based on the whole Mobgate controversy. I discussed the origins, the animations, the harassment of Ekrcoaster and the plagiarism allegations between Venge and Poppy Playtime. And a lot of it was based on videos covering the controversy by Sheeprampage, Theft King and this video. And I ended up with an 88% in the end.
This is actually embarassing. I can't believe how big this got, with the company that's behind it. It literally made me laugh, the idea of wanting Poppy NFTs but with lore attached is especially messed up. Hope this company feels the ramifications for this, or they appoint some less garbage people to leadership roles.
The lore attached to NFTs is that money isn’t real and despite the existence of a million new money 2.0 clubs, they’ve developed into a human centipede of scams (I forgot the word for it but it’s about amassing a following of people to purposely rip off and dump useless stock onto later) Real sigma shit- grind for nothing, in the name of nothing, to the explicit detriment of yourself and others
I stopped supporting Poppy Playtime after the NFT controversy. Even then, the game felt *too* polished. It didn’t have the same charms as FNAF or even early Bendy games, it just felt like it was trying to replicate something for profit. Which, for what it’s worth, they didn’t do a bad job at. Now that I’ve learned more about them I truly hope big RUclipsrs stop giving the game and it’s company attention. It will be especially disheartening if they continue to profit off this. Something about MOBGames that I never heard people discuss either, is their extremely overly sexualized FNAF animations. I wouldn’t have a huge issue with this, but it’s clear the demographic is supposed to be children. It rubs me the wrong way and in my opinion it’s something they should be heavily criticized for, though I see most people brush it off.
It was never like FNAF or Bendy, which are two completely different games and people should stop comparing them to each other. The only difference is their target audience. RUclipsrs, streamers, and kids.
Kinda sad knowing that there probably gonna be able to at least release like 1 or 2 more chapters with this current attention they have. So yeah there probably gonna continue to profit off of poppy playtime for a little while...
@@alenmack3471 living toy/animatronic, check, old company/bad company in bankruptcy/was in bankruptcy, check. Multiple stains over the company, check. Killer toy thing, check. yea, totally not similar.
@@alenmack3471 it's very similar to bendy ngl, episodic, mascot is now trying to kill you, the company failed but used too create children's content, that content corrupted/turn evil, several employees died/went missing mysteriously and now a former employee must go there and fix it all
Out of all the “defanged horror games” that have come to existence after FNAF, I always thought Poppy Playtime was the weakest of them all. It doesn’t give me that creepy childish/nostalgic juxtaposition that I expect from these kinda games. FNAF makes me think of Chuck E Cheese, Bendy makes me think of old style cartoons like Popeye. Poppy doesn’t remind me of… anything. It’s just a fluffy blue thing.
Poppy reminds me of early 2000s stuff. The white tile halls with painted kids murals look like the doctors offices from when I was little, which makes sense with the game's medical themes implying the toy business is a front. The toys also fit the 2000s, with Cat-Bee and Candy Cat looking just like Littlest Pet Shops and Squinkies. Mommy Long Legs is like a Betty Spaghetty doll too (complete with the holes on the arms). The whole aesthetic is like those colored bead toys with wooden bases that you would see in waiting rooms. It's actually very nostalgic for me-- we probably just grew up in different times.
If Poppy had come before Bendy it would be 10/10 It is better than any FNaF game in a technical POV. The audio, gameplay, texture and graphics are all way better than SB
@@Metalicyt Freddy isn’t Chuckie Cheese and Bendy isn’t the entirety of 20’s animation. You’re missing the point. The whole point of the comment was that Poppy doesn’t have a distinct style nor set up its characters as distinct or memorable, hence the focus is entirely on the blue Huggy wuggy which isn’t interesting in the slightest (still better than Mommy what’s it’s face).
These developers always gave me excessively bad vibes. The biggest red flag to me is and always will be the sexualized nature of their children's content. It gives, to me, the exact kind of vibes that something like ElsaGate videos give off. It feels like a tool created to aid in something more genuinely sinister for someone at the company. That's obviously nothing but baseless speculation, but it unnerves me nonetheless.
"Honestly it shouldn't be brushed off, but it's not the biggest problem. The entire NSFW industry is a problem, I mean really I can create an account that says I was born on april 1st in the 1800s when im actually 10 and never have my account removed despite the obvious fakeness of it (I genuinely did do that btw, I always put April 1st and the oldest year possible whenever I sign up for anything regardless of me being a legal adult now. It's funny to do, try it, just continue scrolling the year when you sign up for something and see how far you can go!) Most sites you dont even need to create an account, just click on a little box that says youre 18 and over and that if youre not they cant be held liable for your viewing of it and boom youre in. And yes, I have a crippling addiction and am very mad about the fact I got it so young, let alone that I got it at all. Anyway, point is, the entire topic of the internet's 34th rule is horrible, the slight sexualization of kid's content should be the least of your worries considering it's only a small part of the problem." just pasting a comment i made to someone else who mentioned the sexualization of kid's content. Tis a problem, but small in comparison to the entire industry and the problems it's made and has.
@@sato-kuu I agree there’s issues but think your solution is unrealistic. What do you want the industry to do, require ID? No one would do that because that’s such a huge risk. I’m 20 but I wouldn’t want to give anything from porn sites to Twitter my ID. And by the time I was 14 I was good enough at photoshop that I could’ve altered a photo to make it look like my ID. It’s on the parents to stop their kids from getting into what they shouldn’t. If we expect people to make the internet safe for children, other people will abuse that assumption of safety. Don’t blame the strippers if children break into a strip club. My mom taught me to keep myself safe and why I should - and I never got into places on the internet sooner than I should have. I was taught both what was out there and to be careful when I was young Edit: Clarifying that I don’t mean this to apply to inappropriate media with a target audience of children. Children breaking into a strip club is different than being invited in. But it would be extra helpful if kids were taught extra wariness - bad actors often won’t stop what they’re doing just because we tell them they’re in the wrong (and even if we do catch them, you can make and take down websites so quickly to avoid getting caught). Especially from a parental perspective of just trying to keep your kids safe, you can’t rely on no one trying to hurt them.
I agree, like what is the point of implementing these topics into an animation that is so clearly made for kids? I think the blame is on everyone, these companies shouldn’t be creating content like this in the first place, RUclips should be doing a better job at categorising the content being perceived by kids, parents need to do a better job at monitoring what their kids are looking at too.
You're asking some people to literally stop their careers here. There are channels that now run speedrunning communities around this game, dropping it would hurt them on a level similar to killing off a small business. If people wonder how corruption exists in the real world so easily it's situations like this where lives are staked on something before people know how bad it is.
Everyone keeps talking that "MOB Games and EnchantedMOB" are bad, but the problem are not the devs or animators, they're great, it's the management that's bringing the company down with bad, cashgrab ideas. Everyone seems to be forgetting that not everyone involved are bad
Dumbass the devs are the problem they tried to get a minor in their team but turns out the user didn’t want to join there team and the owner of poppy playtime sent the user a blurred image of the user doing something weird to circus baby💀
I was first exposed to Poppy Playtime by Markiplier when he did a let's play for it. For some odd reason, I've always thought that the game just felt...mid. Like, when I saw first FNAF (also via Markiplier), I thought that the game was gonna be big, and it turned out that way. Poppy, on the other hand, felt overrated and artificial, like it was gonna be a one hit wonder like Tattletail (remember that game?). And now since I'm no longer ignorant to EnchantedMob's shady history, it all makes sense.
tattletail never really tried to market itself as horror for kids though, it just happened to be some guys project that got popular online due to its similarities to fnaf
Except Tattletail is actually good, I have fond memories of that game, I am sure that if they did a sequel it would have sky rocketed, sadly they didn't have the same budget to do so.
I knew not to trust Mob games after the NFT stuff-and I personally did not care for poppy’s playtime as I fell out with jumping into horror trends or whatever even trends now a days-but remembering the fact these guys animated some Fnaf vids I use to watch adds to my disappointment. I also hope Venge gets some attention after this, it’s a absolute shame when creators actually put care into their projects but get ignored by mainstream garbage, this stuff always seems to happen and seeing how it’s clear Mob games is doing it for money, Ethan’s game deserves all the attention it can get.
Ngl no ah the to vengeance but it’s god awful yeah it’s my opinion but like I played it and uninstalled it the minute i finished it it’s disappointing that it was the og version of poppy playtime yet it stills Ickes either way
...well we have officially gotten to the point where no one knows the difference between jump scares and not jump scares in horror. As poppy DOES NOT HAVE A HUGE, IF ANY AMOUNT OF JUMP SCARES? Like... if you mean the chase sections... um.. that's.. not a jumpscare? So idk wtf your talking about. But you must be hella confused. Or not understand horror games.. and there genres...at all.
Something I also noticed is that poppy playtime chapter 1 also follows the EXACT same story as BATIM 1) get called to an abandoned work place by some previous fellow employees/employers 2) explore the building and find several things wrong with it, all while listening to tapes of previous workers 3) cutouts/statues in places they shouldn’t be 4) turn on a revolutionary machine 5) get jumpscared and chased 6) escape and end up in a new part of the building 7) the whole thing is a big experiment to try and bring the characters to life
It's a shame that all these controversies had happened. When Poppy Playtime came out, I could tell that it was going to become something big. Too bad that they decided to do NFTs though.
Some of the comments stated they dropped the Idea of using NFT's so.... I guess thats a good thing? Doesn't shake off the fact they tried to do it in the first place, but at least they have some braincells to realize "Wait, this is a horrible idea, go back"
Even though you didn’t mention it by name I’m glad you kind of mentioned Luigi’s Mansion as an example of a horror game for kids. I think for me the thing that makes Luigi’s Mansion (the first one not the others) a good children’s horror game is that while it was made for all ages. It felt like a passion project that was carefully designed to be as enjoyable and accessible to everyone as possible just for the sake being a good game. Hell one of the developers literally spent multiple weeks just to program the dust, yeah I’m serious. I highly recommend you watch Beta64’s video on the development on the game Poppy’s Playtime on the other hand feels like it was carefully designed to be as enjoyable and accessible to everyone but for an entirely different reason… money. Everything about it feels like it was made to get the popular RUclipsrs and children to give as much money as possible. It feels like it has no passion in it and was only created because hey FNAF and Bendy are popular with kids we can do that too!
Another reason I’d like to point out is how Luigi’s mansion isn’t going for “child friendly thing and making it scary” and then trying to appeal to kids in the process. It’s using common horror tropes like ghosts and a mansion and making them accessible to a young audience and I think that’s the better choice to go. I think the target demographic for games that go for “children media turning scary” fits better for an audience that is growing out of those kinds of medias since the point is to feel fear on what you’ve enjoyed when you were a kid. That’s just my take on it
They have always jumped onto trends and popular things and poppy is the best example. Just look at their recent videos. It’s all advertisements for their game mixed in with popular topics like fnf among us fnaf and squid game. Poppy playtime could have been something great but with all this it’s not going to.
I honestly love the premise behind Poppy Playtime and the lore theories. I love Huggy’s design, and was so invested in the fandom at one point that I began working on a fan comic (never finished it btw. It was only me working on it, and it was a 70+ fully colored/shaded/lit comic that didn’t mix well with my perfectionism. Only finished the first page before falling out of interest ). It just hurts how shady the company behind it actually is. Then again, almost every company behind games and entertainment have bones in their closets.
A friend of mine worked as an animator for 3A display. He was under 18 at the time and from what he told me, it's a lot of minors and kids that get hired to do the animations. Good on them for wanting to animate but the company themselves treats them horrible and pays them next to nothing.
Makes sense. You can tell there was a lot of genuine passion behind that chase sequence and the polish of Huggy's animation etc. What a shame their passion and talents are being exploited for such shitty purposes.
the sad part here is that poppy playtime isn't bad- it's got a weird aesthetic to it with the grabby hands, but I think it definitely pulls off kids horror in a good way, and huggy is a well designed character. it also pulled off the inhumanly large abandoned building setting better than security breach did. There are some actual talented people behind this company being forced to churn out stuff so fast we end up with a 30 minute game. At least security breach is so bad that you get longer lets play episodes because the players keep getting stuck.
When I first watched superhorrorbro play it, I actually got some chills because the game really felt like a scary game. It actually felt like “what would happen if elmo wasn’t friendly”. Huggy Wuggy isn’t even a complicated looking creature, yet it actually seemed threatening when he had sharp teeth, gives you paranoia that even something meant for you to hug close and love can turn on you and kill you. Sucks the producers aren’t good people
But security breach didn't do an abandoned building type of setting (unless you're referring to the unground fnaf ps building where burntrap is then in that case I suppose I agree)
As someone who was supporting Ethan since before Venge even came out, i can tell you how much it affected him mentally at the time when poppy playtime came out. He almost felt like qutting, but hes alot better now espcailly after all the stuff going on around them
*Chapters and time stamps if you care* 0:00 Chapter One (The prologue?) 7:46 Sponsor if you care 10:00 Chapter Two (Murky Waters) and end of sponsor 14:25 Chapter Three (Poppy Playtime) 18:17 Chapter Four (Conclusion)
I only knew about the poppy playtime nfts and how they bullied ekrcoaster so this video is very helpful in helping me learn more about the bad stuff enchantedmob/mob games has done. edit: how on earth did this get 2k likes. edit 2: why on earth does this have 4k likes. I literally just made a comment about this vid will help me learn more about the bad stuff emob/mob games has done. there are a lot of people in this comments section that have made far better comments than I have that deserve more likes.
It's really sad to hear how far EnMob has fallen recently. Join Us For A Bite and Survive The Night are major sources of nostalgia for me, *especially* the former, and it's a shame because their animations are genuinely fucking amazing, so too are some of the jokes in their series. But all this shit, all this demoralizing chaos, it's so infuriating to see. I really wish all of this never happened.
Survive the Night was a huge one for me....I remember listening to it on blast on the school bus home, or even just in my room at night when I was bored. Its just a huge shame he went the predatory route...
Already thought Poppy Playtime was just a cash grab, and this video made me realize that the “mob” from “mob games” is the “mob” from “enchanted mob” which I used to see as a cool animation channel I’ve noticed has also just changed into a cash grab and this is why I guess, there is literally no way that Mob isn’t just a complete children cash grab with the kids animations, the nfts, and harassing creators under a different channel.
It’ll be a endless cycle. Wait for the next game to change the genre forever and make copies. Kind of like what happened with rpgs, 2d side scrollers and what we have now. Lore filled horror games.
@@IronIsKing Yeah...When FNAF 4 came out, it tied in the lore from the first 3 games while still leaving some questions unanswered. Until they came out with SL which was a good addition, but shouldve stopped there. Instead Scott kept making more and more and eventually FNAF lost it's original touch and now just feels like UbiShit games, to me at least. Its genuinely sad seeing all these creators having Fazbear Syndrome, and then you get shitbags like EMob.
@@deathberryjam907 Nah it should've ended at Fnaf 6, with UCN being a final sendoff for the series. All these books and third-party devs and shi isn't great
Sad thing is the game actually looks really cool, I just recently watched someone play through the second chapter and it seemed pretty solid to me. So it’s a shame that the devs have such shady practices going on in the background, any other circumstance and that game would probably be the new hottest horror game (more so than it already is)
One thing about the NFT thing: they said they wanted to remove them but they couldn’t do it because of a reason I can’t remember and everyone just blindly forgave them instantly for some reason. It’s obvious they still want the money, and they can delete the NFTs but the bonus profit is very hard to ignore sadly
@@Astro_TheBot yep! Someone tried it, I actually think I know them- the PPT news person on Twitter made it (they're a fan who does news stuff for the game) and... yeah... you can't delete them once they're started.
the game is $5-6 for literally 30 minutes of playtime. and you will most likely have to pay for the next chapters too. the entire game and company is a total content farm
Yeah, chapter 1 is just a demo/tutorial, I am not paying 5€ (because steam doesn't make the $ to € conversion) just for like... Come on 45 minutes of gameplay if you're slow? Some people told me "Oh but you have to support the creators!!" Well yeah, but the first chapter of Bendy is free, the first AND second chapter of Deltarune are free and with 5$ I could buy a full Fnaf game. Poppy Playtime has no excuses
The biggest problem with the AnimationSins channel was how they targeted Ethan. It's worth mentioning they tried to bring him on to the team, he refused because he didn't want to abandon his youtube channel, and then AS started targeting him. A lot of their videos were on EkrCoaster's animations, they'd make rude remarks and add a sin just upon seeing EkrCoaster be mentioned in the intros, and even on videos not by EkrCoaster, he'd be mentioned. I remember them saying "take notes, EkrCoaster!" after positive feedback on something. No idea who the animator was, it could have even been them. AnimationSins was basically just for bullying Ekr and making him hated among FNAF MC animation's viewers for being competition ETA: This is as compared to CinemaSins, who targets large companies that make movies and millions or even billions of dollars. Some people don't like Jeremy and his critiques but we can at least respect that he's punching up at The Mouse and other big moviemaking studios, and he's not like a major movie director punching down at a child's gacha club story. Animation Sins was EnchantedMob and ZAMination, leaders in minecraft animated music videos, making a channel dedicated to bullying a child who made his own smaller animation videos in the same style.
The sad part is that the lets players will likely never find out about this information and will give the game more attention on their channels. The people behind this game are legit douchebags and I really hope their company goes under.
It feels like once a RUclipsr becomes real big, they become almost impossible to contact, which in most cases is understandable, but for cases like these it becomes sad that we can't warn them about this stuff.
Who cares let em play. It’s like reading Jk Rowlings books after she was found to be homophobic. You just don’t care and just want some content or money yourself. Or if you want you could just pirate it
There’s absolutely no way that the lager lets players, aren’t aware of the controversies. They’re likely having money dangled in front of them, and choosing to cash in…rather than having a back bone.
@@redtortoise Well see this is a youtube video, it has audio and video. So basically what you have to do is turn up your volume. There should be a button on either your device or it could be turned down on youtube itself. Simply use your mouse or finger to slide the bar all the way across. Now you should be able to hear the video!
Poppy Playtime is genuinely one of the most cool games I've seen in a while. I'm really disappointed to learn even more bad stuff about Enchantedmob. I knew they were bad, but not this bad. I hope they can get some sense knocked into them soon.
I'm glad someone agrees. Unlike what some people think, I liked the level of polish in the game, it plus the commercial in the beginning made it feel more like a real toy factory. The vent chase was terrifying, and I really like the ideas they had! I really want it to keep being made, but by changing creators, or at least the creators being honest and showing proof that they're trying to improve.
Same! I will not stop liking this game even if the creators are horrible people. I’m not just gonna give up something I enjoy. Everyone has a choice to make when it comes to this
Agreed. I’m disappointed to find out the creators are like this, but I honestly still want to see more of Poppy Playtime. While the twist on Freddy/Bendy isn’t new at all, I still love the unique aesthetic of the game. It has a lot of potential.
@@zelmo5683 and because of that I should stop playing their game? No. I’m not gonna give up something I enjoy just because they are shitty people. But like I said. Everyone has to make the choice wether to give it up or keep enjoying it
I'm happy this is getting more coverage I knew something was off after playing such a small chapter 1 which felt more like a demo and seeing they were shelling NFTs on the back end it felt like a cash grab. After seeing enchanted mob I knew these were some extremely shady devs. Way to go on a deep dive and bring all of this to the surface.
The sad reality is that their main audience, being young kids, will probably not care about the whole controversy and still play/talk about this trainwreck
Of course, that’s not to say the Poppy Playtime community would practically eat it up until they're finally fed up with it. These developers attempt to overcommercialize their products to an ostentatious degree through merchandise and NFTs, and they believe that their target audience (which apparently consists of impressionable and gullible 9-14-year-olds) would consume anything they throw at them like omnivorous pigs they are for the sake of higher profitability. You see, there's absolutely no excuse for making such a mediocre horror game, just because it's meant for children. They have a sense of taste, too, what they haven't developed yet is a sense of standards yet. Just because they'll tolerate anything doesn't mean that media aimed at them should get away with not trying at all.
@@Noelle_Holiday they saw what fnaf did and tried to copy it. Only difference is that fnaf had to release 6 games before it's merchandise started popping off, actually cares about it's lore and doesn't just straight up see their fanbase as pure profit. The Poppy playtime devs are really trying to speedrun the fazbear syndrome in the worst way possible.
In my opinion, poppy playtime gave a little bit too much for the “child-like” aspect. Bendy had a nice atmosphere to it and there was only like 2 colors which made it less life-like and creepy. Fnaf, well I don’t need to explain there’s a whole video to it.
14:02 - I like how i'm not a let's player or even considered in the equation... People only care about Mark, Jack or Pewds to play their games. It's sad.
at this point, you should just ignore the brain dead people that are trying to create unnecessary drama to indie games where problems doesn't exist. it does feels the ones that are just feeding this drama are the bigger indies community like FNaF with creators that ignores their international fandom as much as a smaller indie game is doing like Venge. you did your videos, and put a name on yourself , you made content to this small indie game and now you are being ignored along with other big creators. recomendo algm traduzir umas parte da sua live pra ver se tem tração pra fora, se continuar assim o pessoal fica acreditando em besteira pra sempre.
This discussion with Vange is the only point I disagree with, but other than that it's kind of hard to support the MOB, but that's ok, core (I used Google Translate, I'm Brazilian, so I don't speak much English.)
In my opinion, all these animators working for Enchantedmob is just wasted talent. Anyone can say their video's are cringe, but no one can say that the animation isn't smooth as fuck. Hopefully now with everything going down with the studio, some of these animators are finding better studios to work for.
That's what I was talking about in the Fnf development server for a mod we're working on, since they just make fun of an animation channel, And yes I may agree it's "cringe" but I told them "But do you know how to animate as good?..." and yes, they had to agree there was still a lot of effort put into it
Soomth doesn't equal good imo. I do miss a lot of old Minecraft animations besides Enchantedmob. But yes I do agree that Enchantedmob has wasted potential. I can bring myself to watch the cringe...
I knew next to nothing about the ones behind Poppy Playtime, but how is it that anything related to Minecraft always ends up having something shady about them? I feel like an absolute moron now for wishing for the best for the next chapter not knowing what was going on behind the scenes. I'd be more than surprised if somebody like Jackcepticeye or Coryxkenshin decided not to play the second part when it comes out after hearing about this
“How is it that anything related to minecraft always ends up having something shady about them?” Exactly, I don’t get how a survival game about pixelated building blocks got such a bad fanbase like what??? 💀
@@the_feathered_goat6172 Yes, is really bizarre. I think it is that a big chunk of this types of fan bases are children, animation channel farms realized this and decided to exploit the heck out of them, thus all the endless amount of cringy, oversaturated and plastic content. But once you go thrue the "Children zonosfere", there are lots actually good creators out there that actually care about the content they make.
Because minecraft was and is popular, and whenever something is influential, popular, and/or makes a lot of money, the vultures will always be circling and waiting for the next 'big opportunity' for a quick cash in. The communities and fandoms surrounding these properties, as well as their creators, need to be much more draconian in managing their IPs. Parents need to pay attention. These people rely on and profit from those who are ignorant of their strategies, not just lawyers and publishers and distributors, but of their own consumer base as well. This video is illuminating, and we need more watchdogs like these if we're going to hope to stop these people.
Funnily enough, one of my best friends actually knew Enchantedmob and was pretty decent friends with him. That same guy introduced me to Ekrcoaster. I was in a few calls with Ethan, actually took part in one of his streams and other things. I’d still consider myself to be friends with Ethan, though I haven’t talked to him in a while. I actually didn’t know much of what was going on with Enchantedmob, as I was taking a year long break from the internet while everything went on. I remember my friend telling me that he was probably going to introduce me to Enchantedmob as well. My friend is also an animator, but isn’t too big named. I remember him explaining about a thumbnail why he doesn’t talk to Enchantedmob anymore. I think it was the thumbnail for “Don’t Come Crying.” He explained that it lewded an animatronic that was supposed to have a child’s spirit inside her, and that’s why he didn’t associate with him anymore. I’m actually still part of a server Enchantedmob made back in 2019/2018. Everyone left except me and him (though he’s not active,) but it seems a little sad that I could have potentially been friends with him.
as someone who’s known enchantedmob for almost 7 years now, it’s very disappointing seeing them do this shit. everything you mentioned in this vid was accurate, and I hope these guys at least try to go back to their original roots in terms of their content
They don't need to turn back to their old stuff if they don't want to. Hell, I'm a full grown fucking adult and I find the animations funny. Stop letting nostalgia shade your sight. Sure they make shit thumbnails, but they've genuinely grown in talent and creativity ever since just making shitty fnaf animation songs.
@@TheSebasMaster Then that's your opinion. But they don't need to change their entire channel back to their old content if theyre doing something they like.
@@SC4RLET_M4CAW It's not even an opinion, its just a fact that their old content was geniunely better as those videos were made with passion instead of the soulless videos made for money we have today. Their old videos were also much more bearable to watch as the models looked normal and were not sexualized or look like they were made for literal 2 year olds.
@@Astro_TheBot I pirate games to get a feel for them before paying. This one I don't think deserves pirating. Much rather buy any other indie horror with a soul into it
"Because after a while of trying to cater to everyone, you end up catering to no one" Holy SHIT that wrap up was good. The Security Breach footage in the background hit too close to home as well.
Even with all of the bad things that Enchanted MOB has done, I don't think people will care enough to suddenly stop playing Poppy Playtime as it will get RUclipsrs views and people will want to see their reactions to the game.
Another great video, this was really well put together, I hope it can inform more people about this stuff, because it really upsets me how such a corrupt studio can get so much praise, I hope this can maybe lead to change in the future from the studio and hopefully all these extremely talented employees can find better places to use their talent.
A empresa é uma bosta, mas ela não é a única, a Nintendo é a mesma coisa e um monte de gente ama ela. Os criadores do jogo são um time Indie e não são eles que decidem o que vai ou não ser derrubado
The advertisement of NORDVPN was incredibly intricate and really illustrated the issues of how important internet security is, and how Nord is a great way to avoid hornets burning down their houses. I honestly appreciate the sentiment of light being shed on hornets with flamethrowers, hoping people will realise the issues and that. Shit's crazy.
another scandal that happened with the Enchantedmob channel was not only their weirdly suggestive content in their animations made for kids, but (coming from a former fnaf kid who stopped following after Sister Location,) the character of Baby is supposed to be portrayed as a CHILD. And the soul possessing the animatronic is that of a child, so to see the studio make that suggestive model and animations of the character that is meant to be a literal minor is uncomfortable to know about.
i've never been a fan of poppy playtime. it just felt like a kids horror game. the enemy design was... not scary, the colors were too bright (adding to the fact that it's clearly catered towards a young audience), and the modelling for "poppy" was god awful glad i haven't invested energy into the game
horror in those settings can definitely be done right (i.e. midsommar, parts of subnautica, etc) but poppy playtime definitely does not use it in the 'this is in a bright/colourful setting to make the horror more jarring and disturbing' way and much more in the 'we want kids to look at the bright fun colours' way
Its level design (at least chapter 1) is also a carbon copy of other games: >walk around somewhere abandoned >collect some stuff >turn on a machine >chase sequence
Well I think it was saying that both of the brothers were very sorry and that the brother who ran Zamination ( I can’t remember his name) had no idea what Zach( the one who bullied Ekroaster ) was doing at the time. It was something like that but longer
FRR, it just seems like it’s meant to follow trends and appeal to children. it’s cashgrabby, it doesn’t feel special like fnaf or bendy, because they are actually good, then have time put in them, unlike poppy playtime. the names and shit are childish as hell too💀
I will never understand why this game blew up suddenly. Its not scary nor creepy and the chapter releases are the worst part. It works for BATIM because each chapter is fairly long but this game can be done in what like 20 minutes
it has the scares for the lets players and the hidden lore for the theorist. its main goal is not to be played but to make RUclips videos. The chase sequence at the end is well made though.
8:32 this is the most creative sponsorship scenario i’ve ever seen. it was so ridiculous that it immediately got my attention using what was a surprisingly clever method. good job, i guess…? lmao
Poppy Playtime is a cheap cash grab Bendy rip off. They literally stole the entire idea, Bendy was a cartoon company that went bust, Poppy is a toy company that went bust. Joey wanted to bring his cartoons to life to cut animation costs, playtime wanted to bring their toys to life to make them more interactive. Bendy goes wrong as he doesn't have a soul and he goes on a rampage attacking the player. Huggy is presumably the same, they wanted to make him hug people but he wants to kill them. The player meets Alice Angel, a being with a soul, who helps us through various tasks in the game. Poppy is presumably sentient, either having soul or her AI is better than Huggy's as she was supposed to be interactive and Huggy just hugs, she's probably gonna help us through the game. And like you said, chapter 1 is shit and should be a demo instead. And then they did NFT's and lied saying they couldn't take them down due to a contract.
Actually, the creator of a game called venge (Ekrcoaster) claims poppy completely stole his story, even more than poppy appeared to copy bendy. This is even more annoying considering that venge is priced significantly lower than poppys playtime. And he also claims the creators of poppy bullied him. Worth looking into. Ps. Sorry if the video mentions this I haven’t finished it yet.
@@dyvfsdgdrgkhgderx9282 It did mention this but that's okay. The issue is that both games are based off Bendy so Ekrocoaster can't say they entirely copied when he kinda got inspiration from the same place. I definitely believe they bullied him but I think he jumped the gun with saying they copied him.
@@NobodyUndefined Oogh same here!! Unfortunately I don't think Ekrocoaster has a leg to stand on by saying they copied him... I mean... they're both so incredibly similar to Bendy that if anything it was only inspired :( The bullying thing absolutely peeves me off though, but from what I've heard from a friend talking to the people in their discord they HAVE apologized privately and sorted things out. Plus, it WAS in 2018, that gives people room to change to be fair. Hhhhhh. Idk, even still it's all so shady to me, which really bums cause now Huggy's my only comfort character so like, damn, gotta split the creator with the creation in my head lol.
@@NobodyUndefined I'm hopeful that Poppy Playtime's popularity will quickly fade into oblivion and forever be considered as the forgotten relic of the past, like many other mainstream horror games that are diagnosed by Fazbear Syndrome. It's a never-ending, destructive cycle of repetition that will almost certainly never cease. Of course, it will always have a community fanbase of impressionable young children that would gradually eat it up until there's barely anything left. That being said, however, I think it's completely fine to take several inspirations from the stuff you genuinely love. Just try make it unique in terms of presentation and avoid the symptoms of Fazbear Syndrome (such as marketing for children, overemphasizing the pointless "lore" to an insufferable degree, and generally not having any passion or care put into it, with the sole purpose as a lucrative, money-printing machine).
Been hearing a number of stories about how to AVOID Poppy Playtime and not give into the company behind it and this is really helping me sort this all out. Huge thanks for this wonderful and eye-opening video! o0o
As an older guy it is endlessly entertaining to hear about people "growing up" from content posted 6-7 years ago. I was in my mid twenties 6-7 years ago, my only experience of FNaF being Markiplier videos I got sick of by the second game. I am always deep diving into these shady NFT/Crypto projects though. That's always a big red flag when a dev starts pushing that stuff.
To be honest, I never understood the people who saw a future for this game. Its history was a repetition of what had already been seen. The character designs are not that flashy and its creators are bad people. I feel that poppy playtime was the game that hurt the most. indie horror genre since the game for me is not even a little scary fnaf had in its first games a setting that scared you and hooked you to the story and what stood out to bendy was his artistic style and that he put new things to the table but poppy playtime is just one more recycling done by the way good video!
Personally I like recycling of a concept I like because I want to read/play something similar. Same way I read a bunch of manga/manhwa/etc with similar plotlines because I want more of that kind of story. I guess I'm just not tired of it yet. That being said, I was only made aware of this company's actions when I watched this video so I guess my hopes for more PP games were crushed
@@apairofglasses775 Imo even Security Breach blows Poppy Playtime out of the water. Sure its not all that scary, and its rough around the edges, but you can tell that the devs over at Steel Wool love the series and they put their hearts into it, even if it didn't quite work out as they had planned. Poppy though? It feels artificial, like it was created with the sole purpose to capture the lightning in a bottle that games like FNaF and Bendy had caught, it feels like it was made to make money.
13:38 The first time I saw gameplay of Poppy's playtime, I thought it looked terrifying. Especially in the conveyer belt area. That level of creepy made me wonder. Why are kids into this? Now I realize they tried to market Poppy's playtime to all ages, but teens and adults are going to see the Fortnite playing kid audience it has and see it as cringe.
Not to mention that they plaster copyrighted characters on their own merch and no one seems to call them out on it. And everyone says that “the fazbear and friends show is actually funny” but it’s just so generic and child pandering that I don’t see any appeal. One good joke doesn’t make it good
@@moltenspaghetti I'm hoping Scott Cawthon (or any other independent game devs out there) would rightfully sue them for the unauthorized use of his copyrighted characters.
There's something weird about the creators of Poppy Playtime making loads of Minecraft videos for it collaborating with other franchises. For one thing when a fan makes a song or animations taking a lot of franchises and mashing them up it's just that, a fan project, but with them being made by the creators of one of the games it seems legally strange to me as it carries a certain level of authenticity/officiality and without the permission of the companies that own the other franchises, it's strange you know? Be like if that Bendy/Hello Neighbour Halloween crossover happened without TheMeatly's consent or something. Y'all feel me on this one?
Okay Enchantedmob is pretty scummy, but I won’t deny the vent chase scene in Chapter 1 is one of the most terrifying things in a horror game in quite some time, and the animations are very well done. That being said I’m not going to buy the chapters, I’ll probably just watch people play it.
I used to absolutely love Enchantedmob when I was younger but that love started to dive when they started doing the shorts. There are some areas where its funny but honestly the oversexualised and clickbaity thumbnails just seems like a cash grab at kids to fund their game. Also, the treatment of Ekrcoaster was uncalled for and honestly they should be grateful that people are inspired by their animations and games to support them. I hope they return to the good quality music videos or make more episodes of Fazbear and Freinds because I think it will do the channel some good.
The funniest part is that the only reason why everyone started to hate on them and accusing them of actual crimes (like ped**hilia) is only because of NFTs, if wasn't because of that take for sure everyone would ignore this problems and there would be a more devided view on the company.
I honestly had no idea Poppy Playtime was even connected to EnchantedMob until now. Explains the sudden appearance of their characters in their videos. Which, I stopped watching after it became made for pre schoolers. This makes me feel bad for supporting the game. I love the concepts in Poppy Playtime. Yes, it follows a lot of the same things that Bendy did. But I also adored Bendy, and see Poppy as just a better version of that. With better graphics and an intriguing setup to the first chapter. I do not support anything they are doing or have done. But I have a personal policy of separating good content from their awful creators. As long as no references to NFTs, their treatment of others or their RUclips channel exist in game, then I will happily enjoy its content. Despite being 19, child horror is right up my alley. And I hope the next chapter improves upon it.
I imagine is less separating art from artist and more like separating art from whoever decided to add the Merch option in the main menu. Both scream instant self-gratification no matter the costs regardless.
So, I stumbled across your channel thanks to Mat Pat/Game theory. And honestly I'm glad I did. As a person who loves and lives with horror in their day to day life, and someone who wants to even speedrun and share more of a history of horror videogames or just videogames in general, seeing this honestly was very heartbreaking. I was aware of the story of FNaF, but never Hello Neighbor, or Poppy Playtime. I was decently aware of Bendy, and frankly, I'm glad that the only franchise of them all when I was a kid that I paid attention to was FNaF when I was still in high-school during what feels like forever ago now. But I remember seeing this game, Poppy Playtime pop up every now and again, it always rubbed me the wrong way, a lot like Bendy. The games always looked very bare bones and were more style over substance. Because kids generally do not care about anything like proper and strong gameplay as long as it appeals to their attention spans, and appeals to their eye. And when a company that doesn't have a genuine love or care for what they're creating, a direction of where a game will go, will either be chaos or will become too simple, though their target demographics that they are aiming for now don't care enough for this sort of stuff. Between questionable gameplay/game design decisions, business practices, or general work conditions, kids aren't going to pay attention or even know where these discussions are happening. As somebody who has always valued the importance of videogames on a historical level. Seeing what this company has done, it spits in the face of what not only the industry built for them to have this opportunity, trying to go as far as to taking advantage of people's charity with a questionable Kickstarter that didn't succeed but somehow the game's release was so close, but even going as far as to making something that looks uninspired, bare bones and only has a nice looking visual direction, it comes off as insulting to the people who they claim they are trying to advertise towards. And with everything this video has mentioned, it honestly was startling and horrifying in some cases. Because all I and many others saw on the surface was a new attempt at a unique horror experience. This video made me never want to buy anything Poppy related and I'll try to encourage my friends and colleagues to do the same. Love the content. Love the work you made here. Hope to see even more from you soon.
It would actually like to speak on behalf of the older fans for EnchantedMob (including myself) as I think I can speak for a lot of us when I say the main reason why a lot of us don't like current in EnchantedMob is because even if you look two years ago they're animations were high-quality and full of life... while now they release shorts that they just put into compilations of other shorts that ALSO get released into compilations and the thumbnails are absolutely cancer and sometimes straight-up clickbait. Not to mention that it's obvious by the kind of videos that they make that they're going for a WAYYYYYY younger audience then what they were going for as early as two years ago (I feel confident in saying that not coming from someone who just grew out of it as I still get my fix on FNAF Minecraft animations from other RUclipsrs... and when they were still making Animation songs I was 16 and I was still loving them. So I'm sure this isn't a case where I just grew out of it)
@@villageboy7768 same here. Their content actually looked good but now they had to sell out. I really stopped watching them when I found out they bullied Ekrcoaster. Now that this comes out, it makes me hate them even more.
Growing up, I used to look up to him bc of his high quality music videos, but now it just feels like he’s no longer making content out of passion and fun, but out of money and greed, it really sucks
I really hope Poppy Playtime can live up to expectations, if no other reason than the animation team behind it is AMAZING. The concept behind the game itself is nothing incredible, but the animation for HW really wowed me when I first saw the game, especially in the vent section. And the trailer's animation was just as impressive! The talent that studio has working for them deserves all the acolades, and for that reason I hope the end product can do their work justice. It's always so sad to see beautiful visuals ruined hy a lackluster story
I’ve been trying to tell people about the developers shitty actions for a while, and nobody has ever listened. Glad to see I’m not the only one who knows the truth.
@@GoldenArmorYeah Yeah, a lot of people just choose not to listen because they can’t believe the magical Poppy Playtime they’ve been using for views is made by shitty devs.
I was wondering why Ekrcoaster had such a bad light with Animation Sins. It's just unfortunate that the team decided to really put 3 feet forward on the plate of destruction when it came to Ekrcoaster as a creator and their pure love for their craft. I didn't know Ekrcoaster much, but I remember being so entrapped in awe by their animations and even getting my chance to have a small conversation. I hope they are doing well and that they find their retribution in one way or another. As for Zamination and EnchantedMob, not only have they fallen off, but they have gone 6 feet under. Not only figurately and literally, but more metaphorically as well. They have dug so deep into their craft and tried so hard to become another capitalist corporation, that they forgot what was important for their community and their own good. Although, those newer animations can get a kick out of a few of us once in awhile. All in all, rise Ekrcoaster and fall Mob Studios (or whatever new nickname they'll come up with next)
I am very glad you made this video to bring awareness of Enchantmentmob, and how they are just using Poppy Playtime to shill money out of people with NFTs and made a game with stolen ideas from an passionate developer. I lost respect with Enchantmentmob when announcing the NFTs, but when I found out about this situation…I became depressed because the amount of similarities between the ideas of Venge and Poppy Playtime, the huge attention on Poppy, and the disgusting crimes Enchantmentmob has committed against ekrcoaster. It may be shameful to admit that I hope Poppy Playtime to fail and disappear sooner with the rising backslash, but sadly…things will keep moving the way they wanted. Unless, we bring and fight for awareness against Enchantmentmob.
Honestly it's sad to see. There was a small timeframe where Zamination/EnchantedMob made very high quality animations that didn't just mash well known characters and IPs together to draw in kids for views. My favourite of these, even today, is their animation for the FNAF song "After show". Incredible animation, very creative and actually kind of dark for a Minecraft animation. I highly recommend you check it out.
I'm glad I never supported Poppy Playtime. Just the name alone makes me feel like it's a rip off of Baldi's Basics, and even that was an awful trend for an actual interesting horror game.
@Chris TheArcticFox And at least the creator(s) of Baldi's Basics never even thought about making NFTs or make weird and surprisingly well-animated Minecraft animations with clickbaity thumbnails.
I think the reason poppy grabbed my attention so well is the liminal space that chapter one had. I mean just the main menu and the soundtrack playing just gives THAT beautiful vibe. That's why poppy catches my attention so hard
Thank you so much for covering this!!! I used to follow ZAM, and EMob until I got old enough it just wasnt funny anymore. And then I found out they went to making adult content geared towards kids. CK9 used to make videos with him, and I havent seen anyone talking about what EMob has done in the more recent comments. But hopefully people will go over this more soon.
this video was extremely well-made. this is only the second video ive seen from you, but im really enjoying the high-quality content! already subbed xx
i actually had submitted a job application to work for enchantedmob/mobstudios as a designer before i learned about all of this stuff. i spoke with zach directly over email a number of times and after he said he was interested in my work, i tried to set up an interview and he ghosted me. that left a sour taste in my mouth, and showed lack of professionalism... but now seeing how they treated ekrcoaster and the whole NFT thing... i'm kinda glad i never got an interview after all.
What I learned: Batim superiority Honestly I’ve been heavily obsessed with Batim for a while now and I’ve been noticing recent games having uncomfortably similar plots and getting a lot more attention- I know that Batim kinda died off but I still love it and it’s a shame to see other games taking a similar plot and shifting it and getting popular when a beloved classic is being forgotten. I’m not saying that they completely ripped off Batim, they’re both different in there own ways- I’m just sad that people forget about Batim. It’s honestly a bit heart warming To see people remember it and give it credit since Batim has been a huge part of my life and has helped me with a lot of struggles and has over all helped me figure out who I am as an artist and a person.
I'm sorry, but Bendy is genuine garbage post episode 2. 3-5 are tedious, have awful plots, are very obviously meant to have HuGe twists that end up making the lore too messy and let's not even talk about how Bendy himself was ruined. Even then, both the first episodes are meh at best: 1 is I Spy and 2 is I Spy + slight combat + chase sequence. I'm glad it helped you, but frankly Bendy was a cashgrab ever since Mike Mood joined Meatly (Especially now that we know how scummy he is, with all the layoffs). The superiority belongs to the first 4 FNaF games. Before Vanny, before Fazgoo and the Ballpit, before SL's crazy sci-fi setting. Back when FNaF was scary robot pizzerias, and a murderous father wanting revenge on his dead kid. Those were the days.
man the situation between mob and ethan is crazy. I dont realy look into horror games like theirs but what happened is literally when someone tells someone elses joke louder. I had no idea venge existed but i knew about poppy cuz it was literally everywhere
Gosh you have no idea how happy i am to find this video!! I've been literally confused the wholleee timmeee!!! Everyone was talking about how bad the developers of poppy playtime are and how they bullied and stole other people's works and i just couldn't believe it! I started doing a lot of researches but none of them led me to anywhere! That's until your video suddenly showed up in my recommendations!! THANK YOU SM BUDDY YOU'VE EARNED MY SUB!! Also that's a great explanation right here, direct to the point and even organized perfectly to deliver the whole idea.. I am so darn satisfied rn THANKS AGAIN :D
poppy playtime is an incredibly enjoyable and polished game, the chase scene, while short, is incredibly well executed and i hope that the other chapters consist of more moments that bring out that fight or flight feeling that chase scene did. but everything else that game and it's devs have done to promote that game seems so hollow. the game itself is good but the way it carries its reputation is not
The one thing I've always noticed about this game (with even my first time hearing it and seeing it myself) it was EXACTLY like Bendy and the Ink Machine! But every time I tried explaining to people that it was the exact same people wouldn't listen and would just gush about the characters and the "amazing story" WHICH ISN'T EVEN ORIGINAL!! I had SOO much evidence like: Coming back to an old job after some mysterious accidents occur Experiments on people to make your "toys" (AKA CARTOON!!!) more "lifelike" to basically get more money and expand the business (*COUGH* JOEY *COUGH* DREW!!) Getting the main "bad guy" chasing you at the very end to only be "taken" down so easily (Bendy and Huggy) HELL EVEN THEIR ENTERANCES ARE SOMEWHAT THE SAME BEFORE THEY START CHASING YOU!! Posting it in chapters (Yes, I know that some other games do this, but what I'm talking about is the fact the quality changes for each episode and judging by the Trailer for chapter 2 for Poppy Playtime IT TOOK THE EXACT SAME IDEA FOR CHAPTER 2 FOR BATIM AND IT'S SO FUSTRATING) The "tapes" you have to play and you getting to know certain "characters" through them (CMON EVEN SOME OF THE CHARACTERS HAVE ALMOST THE SAME PERSONALITIES) Don't even get me started on how Poppy is the exact same as Alice Angel (and if MatPat is right she is basically taking the same approach as Alice.) She even says, "Your Perfect" and doesn't want you to die "Just Yet" CMON PEOPLE OPEN YOUR EYES!!! HECK, SHE EVEN GUIDES YOU AS SHOWN IN THE TRAILER!! I MEAN ITS REALLY SLAPPING YOU IN THE FACE AT THIS POINT!! I could honestly go on and on, these games are almost the exact same and the fact nobody even listened or bothered was crazy! Until now!! I was so happy that this was finally brought to people's attention (I honestly thought I was going crazy) the whole game is BATIM with a Poppy Playtime fliter with a few minor tweaks and the fact the 2 creators fight over how their games are sOooOOoo similar but not even acknowledging the fact that they're both just a basic copy of Bendy is ludicrous. So, I am glad I finally saw people saying the same things I did. Sorry about this rant but Im just relieved I finally saw people talking about this.
One thing I rarely ever see brought up is the failed kickstarter for this game that was absolutely a scam. All tiers only got you chapter 1, and the kickstarter was to fund chapter 1. The kickstarter was poorly made in general and was very petty. However, when it completely failed, chapter 1 came out around 2 weeks after. It was absolutely shady as hell.
Hell yeah. There is a line between getting money to fund a game, and starting a fundraising just for money when the game is nearly done. And as you said, the fact that it came out a few weeks later, even though the fundraising flopped is very shady and suspicious. It would take a company a lot longer than a few weeks to finish a game with 'little to no funds' and so the fact that Chapter 1 came out as polished and smooth as it did is a very curious and tell tale sign of something not being right behind the scenes
Note that the Kickstart began only a MONTH before release.
Yeah. Very shady and suspicious...
I didn't know there was a kickstarter.
Holy shit how can anybody trust these guys after that
My opinion on this genre of “cute mascots turning dark” is how it doesn’t fit with the demographic of 5-10 year olds at all when you think about the context of these games. The whole reason this genre was such an interesting trope from the start was how it would change your view on what you grew up with back then, heck, bendy’s description on steam even says “a game that will ruin your childhood for cartoons” And not to mention these games are based on properties from the 30s-90s. I think these types of games were originally meant to go for a demographic who grew up with these specific mediums from the past but are now grown up to experience darker subjects. Trying to actually give a game like this a brand friendly appeal kinda ruins the point on what this genre was likely trying to go for.
This!
Fnaf
Basically the first 4 FNaF games (dark, gritty) vs FNaF Security Breach (kid-friendly "horror" that's not scary at all in the slightest lol)
Yeah that's what I like about Bendy, the Bendy mascot is adorable but it gets twisted into this awful deformed Ink monster thats plot relevant. It doesn't feel targeted at kids simply because of the mascot.
Poppy and Security Breach 100% do, sadly. It's why I prefer the old FNAF games and the latest one is just furry bait shoved in your face. And these videos explain the problem with Poppy.
I wouldn't say that it's for people growing out of kid related media because what is kid related media in the first place. Everyone can watch a cartoon for example no matter how old they get. Newer cartoon and animated movies even feature more deeper meanings that a kid simply can't understand. There are people that can be 20, 30 or more years old yet they still might watch a cartoon or animated movie that is worth it.
Fun fact: Last year, when I was in Year 9, we were making our own podcasts for English class. While most people went in groups and did their own topics, I went solo and made a whole podcast presented like a current affairs documentary based on the whole Mobgate controversy.
I discussed the origins, the animations, the harassment of Ekrcoaster and the plagiarism allegations between Venge and Poppy Playtime. And a lot of it was based on videos covering the controversy by Sheeprampage, Theft King and this video.
And I ended up with an 88% in the end.
That is so cool
This is actually embarassing. I can't believe how big this got, with the company that's behind it. It literally made me laugh, the idea of wanting Poppy NFTs but with lore attached is especially messed up. Hope this company feels the ramifications for this, or they appoint some less garbage people to leadership roles.
The lore attached to NFTs is that money isn’t real and despite the existence of a million new money 2.0 clubs, they’ve developed into a human centipede of scams (I forgot the word for it but it’s about amassing a following of people to purposely rip off and dump useless stock onto later)
Real sigma shit- grind for nothing, in the name of nothing, to the explicit detriment of yourself and others
@@Lucifersfursona i think the name ur looking for is “pyramid scheme”
Hey, I dare you to talk about NFTs one more freakin' time. I DARE YOU
@@inciniumz4671 monke
fr, nfts just show how much greedy these people are
I stopped supporting Poppy Playtime after the NFT controversy. Even then, the game felt *too* polished. It didn’t have the same charms as FNAF or even early Bendy games, it just felt like it was trying to replicate something for profit. Which, for what it’s worth, they didn’t do a bad job at. Now that I’ve learned more about them I truly hope big RUclipsrs stop giving the game and it’s company attention. It will be especially disheartening if they continue to profit off this.
Something about MOBGames that I never heard people discuss either, is their extremely overly sexualized FNAF animations. I wouldn’t have a huge issue with this, but it’s clear the demographic is supposed to be children. It rubs me the wrong way and in my opinion it’s something they should be heavily criticized for, though I see most people brush it off.
yeah i have feeling they do something behind all this...
It was never like FNAF or Bendy, which are two completely different games and people should stop comparing them to each other. The only difference is their target audience. RUclipsrs, streamers, and kids.
Kinda sad knowing that there probably gonna be able to at least release like 1 or 2 more chapters with this current attention they have.
So yeah there probably gonna continue to profit off of poppy playtime for a little while...
@@alenmack3471 living toy/animatronic, check, old company/bad company in bankruptcy/was in bankruptcy, check. Multiple stains over the company, check. Killer toy thing, check.
yea, totally not similar.
@@alenmack3471 it's very similar to bendy ngl, episodic, mascot is now trying to kill you, the company failed but used too create children's content, that content corrupted/turn evil, several employees died/went missing mysteriously and now a former employee must go there and fix it all
Out of all the “defanged horror games” that have come to existence after FNAF, I always thought Poppy Playtime was the weakest of them all. It doesn’t give me that creepy childish/nostalgic juxtaposition that I expect from these kinda games. FNAF makes me think of Chuck E Cheese, Bendy makes me think of old style cartoons like Popeye. Poppy doesn’t remind me of… anything. It’s just a fluffy blue thing.
Poppy reminds me of early 2000s stuff. The white tile halls with painted kids murals look like the doctors offices from when I was little, which makes sense with the game's medical themes implying the toy business is a front.
The toys also fit the 2000s, with Cat-Bee and Candy Cat looking just like Littlest Pet Shops and Squinkies. Mommy Long Legs is like a Betty Spaghetty doll too (complete with the holes on the arms).
The whole aesthetic is like those colored bead toys with wooden bases that you would see in waiting rooms. It's actually very nostalgic for me-- we probably just grew up in different times.
My favorite fluffy blue thing, Poppy!
You calling poppy the "fluffy blue thing" is making me think you didnt actually watch or play the game
If Poppy had come before Bendy it would be 10/10
It is better than any FNaF game in a technical POV.
The audio, gameplay, texture and graphics are all way better than SB
@@Metalicyt Freddy isn’t Chuckie Cheese and Bendy isn’t the entirety of 20’s animation. You’re missing the point. The whole point of the comment was that Poppy doesn’t have a distinct style nor set up its characters as distinct or memorable, hence the focus is entirely on the blue Huggy wuggy which isn’t interesting in the slightest (still better than Mommy what’s it’s face).
These developers always gave me excessively bad vibes. The biggest red flag to me is and always will be the sexualized nature of their children's content. It gives, to me, the exact kind of vibes that something like ElsaGate videos give off. It feels like a tool created to aid in something more genuinely sinister for someone at the company. That's obviously nothing but baseless speculation, but it unnerves me nonetheless.
Exactly my thoughts. I don't trust people like that.
Ikr i saw it one day and was like “WTF?” This is not okay and its garbage 🗑
"Honestly it shouldn't be brushed off, but it's not the biggest problem. The entire NSFW industry is a problem, I mean really I can create an account that says I was born on april 1st in the 1800s when im actually 10 and never have my account removed despite the obvious fakeness of it (I genuinely did do that btw, I always put April 1st and the oldest year possible whenever I sign up for anything regardless of me being a legal adult now. It's funny to do, try it, just continue scrolling the year when you sign up for something and see how far you can go!) Most sites you dont even need to create an account, just click on a little box that says youre 18 and over and that if youre not they cant be held liable for your viewing of it and boom youre in.
And yes, I have a crippling addiction and am very mad about the fact I got it so young, let alone that I got it at all. Anyway, point is, the entire topic of the internet's 34th rule is horrible, the slight sexualization of kid's content should be the least of your worries considering it's only a small part of the problem."
just pasting a comment i made to someone else who mentioned the sexualization of kid's content. Tis a problem, but small in comparison to the entire industry and the problems it's made and has.
@@sato-kuu I agree there’s issues but think your solution is unrealistic. What do you want the industry to do, require ID? No one would do that because that’s such a huge risk. I’m 20 but I wouldn’t want to give anything from porn sites to Twitter my ID. And by the time I was 14 I was good enough at photoshop that I could’ve altered a photo to make it look like my ID. It’s on the parents to stop their kids from getting into what they shouldn’t. If we expect people to make the internet safe for children, other people will abuse that assumption of safety. Don’t blame the strippers if children break into a strip club.
My mom taught me to keep myself safe and why I should - and I never got into places on the internet sooner than I should have. I was taught both what was out there and to be careful when I was young
Edit: Clarifying that I don’t mean this to apply to inappropriate media with a target audience of children. Children breaking into a strip club is different than being invited in. But it would be extra helpful if kids were taught extra wariness - bad actors often won’t stop what they’re doing just because we tell them they’re in the wrong (and even if we do catch them, you can make and take down websites so quickly to avoid getting caught). Especially from a parental perspective of just trying to keep your kids safe, you can’t rely on no one trying to hurt them.
I agree, like what is the point of implementing these topics into an animation that is so clearly made for kids? I think the blame is on everyone, these companies shouldn’t be creating content like this in the first place, RUclips should be doing a better job at categorising the content being perceived by kids, parents need to do a better job at monitoring what their kids are looking at too.
hoping more people learn about this so big youtubers will stop posting constantly about this game
Same
This
They won't
Big RUclipsrs post what will get views. So it's the viewers fault for always clicking when they see poppy's playtime
You're asking some people to literally stop their careers here. There are channels that now run speedrunning communities around this game, dropping it would hurt them on a level similar to killing off a small business.
If people wonder how corruption exists in the real world so easily it's situations like this where lives are staked on something before people know how bad it is.
Everyone keeps talking that "MOB Games and EnchantedMOB" are bad, but the problem are not the devs or animators, they're great, it's the management that's bringing the company down with bad, cashgrab ideas. Everyone seems to be forgetting that not everyone involved are bad
Yeah, I can definitely see that. It's the higher ups that say what goes.
You have to consider that in most indie games, management are the devs.
Similair to Nintendo's case, you could say: hate the executives, not the developers
Dumbass the devs are the problem they tried to get a minor in their team but turns out the user didn’t want to join there team and the owner of poppy playtime sent the user a blurred image of the user doing something weird to circus baby💀
Your most certainly right my friend!
I was first exposed to Poppy Playtime by Markiplier when he did a let's play for it. For some odd reason, I've always thought that the game just felt...mid. Like, when I saw first FNAF (also via Markiplier), I thought that the game was gonna be big, and it turned out that way. Poppy, on the other hand, felt overrated and artificial, like it was gonna be a one hit wonder like Tattletail (remember that game?). And now since I'm no longer ignorant to EnchantedMob's shady history, it all makes sense.
lol I completely forgot about tattletail
tattletail never really tried to market itself as horror for kids though, it just happened to be some guys project that got popular online due to its similarities to fnaf
Except Tattletail is actually good, I have fond memories of that game, I am sure that if they did a sequel it would have sky rocketed, sadly they didn't have the same budget to do so.
@@dripjack_-1 it's similarities to furbies too
@@evalinksarchives4045 they did do kaleidoscope though
I knew not to trust Mob games after the NFT stuff-and I personally did not care for poppy’s playtime as I fell out with jumping into horror trends or whatever even trends now a days-but remembering the fact these guys animated some Fnaf vids I use to watch adds to my disappointment. I also hope Venge gets some attention after this, it’s a absolute shame when creators actually put care into their projects but get ignored by mainstream garbage, this stuff always seems to happen and seeing how it’s clear Mob games is doing it for money, Ethan’s game deserves all the attention it can get.
Ngl no ah the to vengeance but it’s god awful yeah it’s my opinion but like I played it and uninstalled it the minute i finished it it’s disappointing that it was the og version of poppy playtime yet it stills Ickes either way
Sucks*
Venge is basically a ripoff of Bendy and The Ink Machine. Hypocritical of him to say "tHeY cOpIeD mE!!!!"
@@xthewhitewolf ye
...well we have officially gotten to the point where no one knows the difference between jump scares and not jump scares in horror. As poppy DOES NOT HAVE A HUGE, IF ANY AMOUNT OF JUMP SCARES? Like... if you mean the chase sections... um.. that's.. not a jumpscare? So idk wtf your talking about. But you must be hella confused. Or not understand horror games.. and there genres...at all.
Something I also noticed is that poppy playtime chapter 1 also follows the EXACT same story as BATIM
1) get called to an abandoned work place by some previous fellow employees/employers
2) explore the building and find several things wrong with it, all while listening to tapes of previous workers
3) cutouts/statues in places they shouldn’t be
4) turn on a revolutionary machine
5) get jumpscared and chased
6) escape and end up in a new part of the building
7) the whole thing is a big experiment to try and bring the characters to life
bendy better
@@realsammylawrence cause it funny
It's a shame that all these controversies had happened.
When Poppy Playtime came out, I could tell that it was going to become something big.
Too bad that they decided to do NFTs though.
@JK Productions what did they do
@@Lottabaggage Um did you not watch the video?
@@NobodyUndefined no
@@Lottabaggage It's all explained in the video so if you wanna know you should watch it
Some of the comments stated they dropped the Idea of using NFT's so....
I guess thats a good thing? Doesn't shake off the fact they tried to do it in the first place, but at least they have some braincells to realize "Wait, this is a horrible idea, go back"
Even though you didn’t mention it by name I’m glad you kind of mentioned Luigi’s Mansion as an example of a horror game for kids.
I think for me the thing that makes Luigi’s Mansion (the first one not the others) a good children’s horror game is that while it was made for all ages. It felt like a passion project that was carefully designed to be as enjoyable and accessible to everyone as possible just for the sake being a good game. Hell one of the developers literally spent multiple weeks just to program the dust, yeah I’m serious. I highly recommend you watch Beta64’s video on the development on the game
Poppy’s Playtime on the other hand feels like it was carefully designed to be as enjoyable and accessible to everyone but for an entirely different reason… money. Everything about it feels like it was made to get the popular RUclipsrs and children to give as much money as possible. It feels like it has no passion in it and was only created because hey FNAF and Bendy are popular with kids we can do that too!
oh wow look the guy from fnfhighjinks
Another reason I’d like to point out is how Luigi’s mansion isn’t going for “child friendly thing and making it scary” and then trying to appeal to kids in the process. It’s using common horror tropes like ghosts and a mansion and making them accessible to a young audience and I think that’s the better choice to go. I think the target demographic for games that go for “children media turning scary” fits better for an audience that is growing out of those kinds of medias since the point is to feel fear on what you’ve enjoyed when you were a kid. That’s just my take on it
They have always jumped onto trends and popular things and poppy is the best example. Just look at their recent videos. It’s all advertisements for their game mixed in with popular topics like fnf among us fnaf and squid game. Poppy playtime could have been something great but with all this it’s not going to.
luigi's mansion at least isn't a 30 minute chapter that costs 4 dollars.
and its not just games that are doing the horror for kids, does anyone know of goosebumps? and the 2 movies?
I honestly love the premise behind Poppy Playtime and the lore theories. I love Huggy’s design, and was so invested in the fandom at one point that I began working on a fan comic (never finished it btw. It was only me working on it, and it was a 70+ fully colored/shaded/lit comic that didn’t mix well with my perfectionism. Only finished the first page before falling out of interest ). It just hurts how shady the company behind it actually is. Then again, almost every company behind games and entertainment have bones in their closets.
Yea, like Mojang, for example.
@@ScorpiGaming22 what did they do ?
A friend of mine worked as an animator for 3A display. He was under 18 at the time and from what he told me, it's a lot of minors and kids that get hired to do the animations. Good on them for wanting to animate but the company themselves treats them horrible and pays them next to nothing.
Makes sense. You can tell there was a lot of genuine passion behind that chase sequence and the polish of Huggy's animation etc.
What a shame their passion and talents are being exploited for such shitty purposes.
the sad part here is that poppy playtime isn't bad- it's got a weird aesthetic to it with the grabby hands, but I think it definitely pulls off kids horror in a good way, and huggy is a well designed character. it also pulled off the inhumanly large abandoned building setting better than security breach did.
There are some actual talented people behind this company being forced to churn out stuff so fast we end up with a 30 minute game. At least security breach is so bad that you get longer lets play episodes because the players keep getting stuck.
When I first watched superhorrorbro play it, I actually got some chills because the game really felt like a scary game. It actually felt like “what would happen if elmo wasn’t friendly”. Huggy Wuggy isn’t even a complicated looking creature, yet it actually seemed threatening when he had sharp teeth, gives you paranoia that even something meant for you to hug close and love can turn on you and kill you. Sucks the producers aren’t good people
Security breach did the big building thing well
But security breach didn't do an abandoned building type of setting (unless you're referring to the unground fnaf ps building where burntrap is then in that case I suppose I agree)
@@Franpa777 thank you! A fan that actually acknowledges the problem with the other fans!
no it's bad. stop defending these guys
Indie horror devs try not to have a shady history challenge: IMPOSSIBLE
and the winner is scott cawthon!
@@squid2fast Toby who?
I might win this game when I’m y’know blessed with game making knowledge
@@greenbean882 that's what they all say
I think it would be appropriate to say, a Indie horror devs with ridiculously high budget trying to to have a shady history challenge: Impossible
Looks like everyone is starting to learn about all of this. Sucks that the developers are like this because this could have been a great game.
RUclips litterly recommended me this so it looks like the RUclips algorithm has blessed this video
@@mythburger5986 I'm glad that it's getting recommended to everyone. This info has been out for a while but most did not know about it before.
wasn’t anywhere close to being good, literally just the same thing Bendy was, horror for kids. not a large market for shitty fnaf ripoffs.
@@shrimpnft509 I disagree. I really liked the game which is why it's so unfortunate that the creators aren't good.
@@RaptorSnake I’m waiting for chapter 2 because it looks good, but the creators gotta fix their stuff
As someone who was supporting Ethan since before Venge even came out, i can tell you how much it affected him mentally at the time when poppy playtime came out. He almost felt like qutting, but hes alot better now espcailly after all the stuff going on around them
*Chapters and time stamps if you care*
0:00 Chapter One (The prologue?)
7:46 Sponsor if you care
10:00 Chapter Two (Murky Waters) and end of sponsor
14:25 Chapter Three (Poppy Playtime)
18:17 Chapter Four (Conclusion)
Thanks, he's just talking about how he hates his animations like wtf??
@@redtortoise Um…did you post this to the wrong person?
@@suspense_comix3237i guess he did?
Lol I was confused
I used this to make sure I could watch the sponsor lol
I only knew about the poppy playtime nfts and how they bullied ekrcoaster so this video is very helpful in helping me learn more about the bad stuff enchantedmob/mob games has done. edit: how on earth did this get 2k likes. edit 2: why on earth does this have 4k likes. I literally just made a comment about this vid will help me learn more about the bad stuff emob/mob games has done. there are a lot of people in this comments section that have made far better comments than I have that deserve more likes.
thank you basil very cool!!!!!
@@kel9993
Ii
@@tomspeqe1455 what?? 💀
didnt they stop nfts
and just make them posters or smth
It's really sad to hear how far EnMob has fallen recently.
Join Us For A Bite and Survive The Night are major sources of nostalgia for me, *especially* the former, and it's a shame because their animations are genuinely fucking amazing, so too are some of the jokes in their series.
But all this shit, all this demoralizing chaos, it's so infuriating to see. I really wish all of this never happened.
Survive the Night was a huge one for me....I remember listening to it on blast on the school bus home, or even just in my room at night when I was bored. Its just a huge shame he went the predatory route...
They were my childhood with the older FNAF videos and the main reason on how i found out about fnaf sl!
I’m very concerned now..
Remember when EMob and Sam made normal animation videos? Good times... good times...
I remember memorizing the lyrics of Disconnected and watched all of his animation again and again
I guess it's easy to be up to date with the generation, but also be somewhat shitty
"Springtrap kills purple man"
*Trust nobody, not even yourself*
Nice TF2 reference bro
Already thought Poppy Playtime was just a cash grab, and this video made me realize that the “mob” from “mob games” is the “mob” from “enchanted mob” which I used to see as a cool animation channel I’ve noticed has also just changed into a cash grab and this is why I guess, there is literally no way that Mob isn’t just a complete children cash grab with the kids animations, the nfts, and harassing creators under a different channel.
It’ll be a endless cycle. Wait for the next game to change the genre forever and make copies. Kind of like what happened with rpgs, 2d side scrollers and what we have now. Lore filled horror games.
yeah. I hate fazbear syndrome. Every horror game has to be actionpacked with lore. There is a reason FNAF only had subtle lore beats until FNAF 3
@@IronIsKing Yeah...When FNAF 4 came out, it tied in the lore from the first 3 games while still leaving some questions unanswered. Until they came out with SL which was a good addition, but shouldve stopped there.
Instead Scott kept making more and more and eventually FNAF lost it's original touch and now just feels like UbiShit games, to me at least.
Its genuinely sad seeing all these creators having Fazbear Syndrome, and then you get shitbags like EMob.
The correct term for these games is horror games for kids
@@lmads8023 it’s make about using kid fears that adult might have still
@@deathberryjam907 Nah it should've ended at Fnaf 6, with UCN being a final sendoff for the series. All these books and third-party devs and shi isn't great
Sad thing is the game actually looks really cool, I just recently watched someone play through the second chapter and it seemed pretty solid to me. So it’s a shame that the devs have such shady practices going on in the background, any other circumstance and that game would probably be the new hottest horror game (more so than it already is)
One thing about the NFT thing: they said they wanted to remove them but they couldn’t do it because of a reason I can’t remember and everyone just blindly forgave them instantly for some reason. It’s obvious they still want the money, and they can delete the NFTs but the bonus profit is very hard to ignore sadly
Ya they couldn't break the contract and keep theoney too
They can't delete them
Someone actually tried it.
@@Astro_TheBot yep! Someone tried it, I actually think I know them- the PPT news person on Twitter made it (they're a fan who does news stuff for the game) and... yeah... you can't delete them once they're started.
the game is $5-6 for literally 30 minutes of playtime. and you will most likely have to pay for the next chapters too. the entire game and company is a total content farm
I agree
Yeah, chapter 1 is just a demo/tutorial, I am not paying 5€ (because steam doesn't make the $ to € conversion) just for like... Come on 45 minutes of gameplay if you're slow?
Some people told me "Oh but you have to support the creators!!"
Well yeah, but the first chapter of Bendy is free, the first AND second chapter of Deltarune are free and with 5$ I could buy a full Fnaf game. Poppy Playtime has no excuses
@@evalinksarchives4045 means they are greedy as hell
@@evalinksarchives4045 I mean, you can beat a FNaF game in like 50 minutes, dude. Unless it's the VR or Security Breach.
This should be a demo or something
The biggest problem with the AnimationSins channel was how they targeted Ethan. It's worth mentioning they tried to bring him on to the team, he refused because he didn't want to abandon his youtube channel, and then AS started targeting him. A lot of their videos were on EkrCoaster's animations, they'd make rude remarks and add a sin just upon seeing EkrCoaster be mentioned in the intros, and even on videos not by EkrCoaster, he'd be mentioned. I remember them saying "take notes, EkrCoaster!" after positive feedback on something. No idea who the animator was, it could have even been them. AnimationSins was basically just for bullying Ekr and making him hated among FNAF MC animation's viewers for being competition
ETA: This is as compared to CinemaSins, who targets large companies that make movies and millions or even billions of dollars. Some people don't like Jeremy and his critiques but we can at least respect that he's punching up at The Mouse and other big moviemaking studios, and he's not like a major movie director punching down at a child's gacha club story. Animation Sins was EnchantedMob and ZAMination, leaders in minecraft animated music videos, making a channel dedicated to bullying a child who made his own smaller animation videos in the same style.
animation sins is 1 of the reasons why i hate enchanted mob and zamination, it just managed to show their hypocrisy later on
The sad part is that the lets players will likely never find out about this information and will give the game more attention on their channels. The people behind this game are legit douchebags and I really hope their company goes under.
It feels like once a RUclipsr becomes real big, they become almost impossible to contact, which in most cases is understandable, but for cases like these it becomes sad that we can't warn them about this stuff.
Who cares let em play. It’s like reading Jk Rowlings books after she was found to be homophobic. You just don’t care and just want some content or money yourself. Or if you want you could just pirate it
There’s absolutely no way that the lager lets players, aren’t aware of the controversies.
They’re likely having money dangled in front of them, and choosing to cash in…rather than having a back bone.
@@NightOfTheLiving8bit what did they do? Seriously, the video is just showing us his Minecraft videos?
@@redtortoise Well see this is a youtube video, it has audio and video. So basically what you have to do is turn up your volume. There should be a button on either your device or it could be turned down on youtube itself. Simply use your mouse or finger to slide the bar all the way across. Now you should be able to hear the video!
Poppy Playtime is genuinely one of the most cool games I've seen in a while. I'm really disappointed to learn even more bad stuff about Enchantedmob. I knew they were bad, but not this bad. I hope they can get some sense knocked into them soon.
I'm glad someone agrees. Unlike what some people think, I liked the level of polish in the game, it plus the commercial in the beginning made it feel more like a real toy factory. The vent chase was terrifying, and I really like the ideas they had! I really want it to keep being made, but by changing creators, or at least the creators being honest and showing proof that they're trying to improve.
Same! I will not stop liking this game even if the creators are horrible people. I’m not just gonna give up something I enjoy. Everyone has a choice to make when it comes to this
@@SpringyGirl69 They are Murderous people.
Agreed. I’m disappointed to find out the creators are like this, but I honestly still want to see more of Poppy Playtime. While the twist on Freddy/Bendy isn’t new at all, I still love the unique aesthetic of the game. It has a lot of potential.
@@zelmo5683 and because of that I should stop playing their game? No. I’m not gonna give up something I enjoy just because they are shitty people. But like I said. Everyone has to make the choice wether to give it up or keep enjoying it
I'm happy this is getting more coverage
I knew something was off after playing such a small chapter 1 which felt more like a demo and seeing they were shelling NFTs on the back end it felt like a cash grab. After seeing enchanted mob I knew these were some extremely shady devs. Way to go on a deep dive and bring all of this to the surface.
The sad reality is that their main audience, being young kids, will probably not care about the whole controversy and still play/talk about this trainwreck
It's sad that they're getting their money from 3 year olds with the type of game they're making
Of course, that’s not to say the Poppy Playtime community would practically eat it up until they're finally fed up with it. These developers attempt to overcommercialize their products to an ostentatious degree through merchandise and NFTs, and they believe that their target audience (which apparently consists of impressionable and gullible 9-14-year-olds) would consume anything they throw at them like omnivorous pigs they are for the sake of higher profitability. You see, there's absolutely no excuse for making such a mediocre horror game, just because it's meant for children. They have a sense of taste, too, what they haven't developed yet is a sense of standards yet. Just because they'll tolerate anything doesn't mean that media aimed at them should get away with not trying at all.
@@Noelle_Holiday they saw what fnaf did and tried to copy it. Only difference is that fnaf had to release 6 games before it's merchandise started popping off, actually cares about it's lore and doesn't just straight up see their fanbase as pure profit. The Poppy playtime devs are really trying to speedrun the fazbear syndrome in the worst way possible.
@@raptorguy6464 it released 4 or maybe even 3 games before merch started
In my opinion, poppy playtime gave a little bit too much for the “child-like” aspect. Bendy had a nice atmosphere to it and there was only like 2 colors which made it less life-like and creepy. Fnaf, well I don’t need to explain there’s a whole video to it.
Yeah, that's true. At least Bendy had the retro cartoony design going for it.
14:02 - I like how i'm not a let's player or even considered in the equation... People only care about Mark, Jack or Pewds to play their games. It's sad.
unfortunately they only pay attention to these RUclipsrs from the United States and England... and unfortunately we from other countries are ignored.
If it wasn't for you and Mrguinas wouldn't know the Game
at this point, you should just ignore the brain dead people that are trying to create unnecessary drama to indie games where problems doesn't exist. it does feels the ones that are just feeding this drama are the bigger indies community like FNaF with creators that ignores their international fandom as much as a smaller indie game is doing like Venge.
you did your videos, and put a name on yourself , you made content to this small indie game and now you are being ignored along with other big creators.
recomendo algm traduzir umas parte da sua live pra ver se tem tração pra fora, se continuar assim o pessoal fica acreditando em besteira pra sempre.
@@Demothyr yes Glitch. I get sad, I keep realizing that we are undervalued, im from brazil, very sad 😔
This discussion with Vange is the only point I disagree with, but other than that it's kind of hard to support the MOB, but that's ok, core
(I used Google Translate, I'm Brazilian, so I don't speak much English.)
In my opinion, all these animators working for Enchantedmob is just wasted talent. Anyone can say their video's are cringe, but no one can say that the animation isn't smooth as fuck. Hopefully now with everything going down with the studio, some of these animators are finding better studios to work for.
True, those animators deserve better.
Yeah, poor dudes honestly
That's what I was talking about in the Fnf development server for a mod we're working on, since they just make fun of an animation channel, And yes I may agree it's "cringe" but I told them "But do you know how to animate as good?..." and yes, they had to agree there was still a lot of effort put into it
@@RickTS shame the content is not worth the watch :(
those poor animators deserve to make something so much better
Soomth doesn't equal good imo. I do miss a lot of old Minecraft animations besides Enchantedmob. But yes I do agree that Enchantedmob has wasted potential. I can bring myself to watch the cringe...
I knew next to nothing about the ones behind Poppy Playtime, but how is it that anything related to Minecraft always ends up having something shady about them?
I feel like an absolute moron now for wishing for the best for the next chapter not knowing what was going on behind the scenes. I'd be more than surprised if somebody like Jackcepticeye or Coryxkenshin decided not to play the second part when it comes out after hearing about this
“How is it that anything related to minecraft always ends up having something shady about them?” Exactly, I don’t get how a survival game about pixelated building blocks got such a bad fanbase like what??? 💀
@@the_feathered_goat6172 Yes, is really bizarre. I think it is that a big chunk of this types of fan bases are children, animation channel farms realized this and decided to exploit the heck out of them, thus all the endless amount of cringy, oversaturated and plastic content. But once you go thrue the "Children zonosfere", there are lots actually good creators out there that actually care about the content they make.
Exaclty how I feel lol
Mixing the creativity of minecraft and the toxicity of FNAF fanbase = This
Because minecraft was and is popular, and whenever something is influential, popular, and/or makes a lot of money, the vultures will always be circling and waiting for the next 'big opportunity' for a quick cash in. The communities and fandoms surrounding these properties, as well as their creators, need to be much more draconian in managing their IPs. Parents need to pay attention. These people rely on and profit from those who are ignorant of their strategies, not just lawyers and publishers and distributors, but of their own consumer base as well. This video is illuminating, and we need more watchdogs like these if we're going to hope to stop these people.
Funnily enough, one of my best friends actually knew Enchantedmob and was pretty decent friends with him. That same guy introduced me to Ekrcoaster. I was in a few calls with Ethan, actually took part in one of his streams and other things. I’d still consider myself to be friends with Ethan, though I haven’t talked to him in a while. I actually didn’t know much of what was going on with Enchantedmob, as I was taking a year long break from the internet while everything went on. I remember my friend telling me that he was probably going to introduce me to Enchantedmob as well. My friend is also an animator, but isn’t too big named. I remember him explaining about a thumbnail why he doesn’t talk to Enchantedmob anymore. I think it was the thumbnail for “Don’t Come Crying.” He explained that it lewded an animatronic that was supposed to have a child’s spirit inside her, and that’s why he didn’t associate with him anymore. I’m actually still part of a server Enchantedmob made back in 2019/2018. Everyone left except me and him (though he’s not active,) but it seems a little sad that I could have potentially been friends with him.
as someone who’s known enchantedmob for almost 7 years now, it’s very disappointing seeing them do this shit. everything you mentioned in this vid was accurate, and I hope these guys at least try to go back to their original roots in terms of their content
They don't need to turn back to their old stuff if they don't want to. Hell, I'm a full grown fucking adult and I find the animations funny. Stop letting nostalgia shade your sight. Sure they make shit thumbnails, but they've genuinely grown in talent and creativity ever since just making shitty fnaf animation songs.
Their animations are clever where it counts, as they are able to humor both kids and adults.
@@SC4RLET_M4CAW dude, it’s not even nostalgia. I genuinely believe that their old content was way better
@@TheSebasMaster Then that's your opinion. But they don't need to change their entire channel back to their old content if theyre doing something they like.
@@SC4RLET_M4CAW It's not even an opinion, its just a fact that their old content was geniunely better as those videos were made with passion instead of the soulless videos made for money we have today. Their old videos were also much more bearable to watch as the models looked normal and were not sexualized or look like they were made for literal 2 year olds.
The only scary thing about Poppy Playtime is the people who own it
imagine putting tons of content creators and people in the same bag
I pirated it
They don't deserve my money
@@Astro_TheBot nice, i would just not play
But that's better
I couldn't agree with you more
@@Astro_TheBot I pirate games to get a feel for them before paying. This one I don't think deserves pirating. Much rather buy any other indie horror with a soul into it
"Because after a while of trying to cater to everyone, you end up catering to no one" Holy SHIT that wrap up was good. The Security Breach footage in the background hit too close to home as well.
Even with all of the bad things that Enchanted MOB has done, I don't think people will care enough to suddenly stop playing Poppy Playtime as it will get RUclipsrs views and people will want to see their reactions to the game.
Yup lol
Hey, it’s the letsplayers getting the views at least.
Another great video, this was really well put together, I hope it can inform more people about this stuff, because it really upsets me how such a corrupt studio can get so much praise, I hope this can maybe lead to change in the future from the studio and hopefully all these extremely talented employees can find better places to use their talent.
A empresa é uma bosta, mas ela não é a única, a Nintendo é a mesma coisa e um monte de gente ama ela. Os criadores do jogo são um time Indie e não são eles que decidem o que vai ou não ser derrubado
The advertisement of NORDVPN was incredibly intricate and really illustrated the issues of how important internet security is, and how Nord is a great way to avoid hornets burning down their houses. I honestly appreciate the sentiment of light being shed on hornets with flamethrowers, hoping people will realise the issues and that. Shit's crazy.
They should have just stayed independent Animators.
another scandal that happened with the Enchantedmob channel was not only their weirdly suggestive content in their animations made for kids, but (coming from a former fnaf kid who stopped following after Sister Location,) the character of Baby is supposed to be portrayed as a CHILD. And the soul possessing the animatronic is that of a child, so to see the studio make that suggestive model and animations of the character that is meant to be a literal minor is uncomfortable to know about.
i've never been a fan of poppy playtime. it just felt like a kids horror game. the enemy design was... not scary, the colors were too bright (adding to the fact that it's clearly catered towards a young audience), and the modelling for "poppy" was god awful
glad i haven't invested energy into the game
Yeah watching someone else play it felt like the gamma was way up, except it wasn't, it was just the game looking like that -_-
horror in those settings can definitely be done right (i.e. midsommar, parts of subnautica, etc) but poppy playtime definitely does not use it in the 'this is in a bright/colourful setting to make the horror more jarring and disturbing' way and much more in the 'we want kids to look at the bright fun colours' way
Its level design (at least chapter 1) is also a carbon copy of other games:
>walk around somewhere abandoned
>collect some stuff
>turn on a machine
>chase sequence
@@MegaBlair007 bendy. Chapter 1
holy shit is that nagito komeada
Zach needs to answer for this shit. He's completely ignored all questions and I know many of their collaborators would be disgusted by these things.
They didn’t even make an apology video for all the stuff they did to Ekroaster, they made a comment on their QA video which they then deleted 😐
@@patrickcoggins9283 What was the comment?
Well I think it was saying that both of the brothers were very sorry and that the brother who ran Zamination ( I can’t remember his name) had no idea what Zach( the one who bullied Ekroaster ) was doing at the time. It was something like that but longer
the only ad i haven't skipped. the quality of the animation, the storytelling, the idea. wow.
Poppy playtime seems so soulless, like it’s the pinnacle of chasing trends.
Funny you say this right before Garten of BanBan
FRR, it just seems like it’s meant to follow trends and appeal to children. it’s cashgrabby, it doesn’t feel special like fnaf or bendy, because they are actually good, then have time put in them, unlike poppy playtime. the names and shit are childish as hell too💀
I will never understand why this game blew up suddenly. Its not scary nor creepy and the chapter releases are the worst part. It works for BATIM because each chapter is fairly long but this game can be done in what like 20 minutes
And it's $5 per chapter! Imagine paying $30 for a super short game
Secret lore is the only reason why it blew up. It’s fnaf syndrome.
@@3triplezero0 you mean fnaf?
it has the scares for the lets players and the hidden lore for the theorist. its main goal is not to be played but to make RUclips videos. The chase sequence at the end is well made though.
@@Duckbusinessman he meant Friday night Funkin’
''springtrap kills purple guy''
bro time travelled and stopped himself in the past from murdering children 💀
At this point, creating an indie horror game is synonymous with asking for drama lol
Ok bro shut the f up jk lol not jk lol 😂🤣😆😆😂😆😆
I just got done watching Sheeprampage cover the controversies that surrounded Poppy Playtime,
So seeing this video is a very welcoming surprise.
Same
arson
@@PabTSM-OfficialChannel What
Sheep’s video was honestly kind of biased. Because the NFT part. His content isn’t bad though. He’s a good content creator.
8:32 this is the most creative sponsorship scenario i’ve ever seen. it was so ridiculous that it immediately got my attention using what was a surprisingly clever method. good job, i guess…? lmao
Poppy Playtime is a cheap cash grab Bendy rip off. They literally stole the entire idea, Bendy was a cartoon company that went bust, Poppy is a toy company that went bust. Joey wanted to bring his cartoons to life to cut animation costs, playtime wanted to bring their toys to life to make them more interactive. Bendy goes wrong as he doesn't have a soul and he goes on a rampage attacking the player. Huggy is presumably the same, they wanted to make him hug people but he wants to kill them. The player meets Alice Angel, a being with a soul, who helps us through various tasks in the game. Poppy is presumably sentient, either having soul or her AI is better than Huggy's as she was supposed to be interactive and Huggy just hugs, she's probably gonna help us through the game. And like you said, chapter 1 is shit and should be a demo instead. And then they did NFT's and lied saying they couldn't take them down due to a contract.
I didn’t actually noticed that until now.
Actually, the creator of a game called venge (Ekrcoaster) claims poppy completely stole his story, even more than poppy appeared to copy bendy. This is even more annoying considering that venge is priced significantly lower than poppys playtime. And he also claims the creators of poppy bullied him. Worth looking into. Ps. Sorry if the video mentions this I haven’t finished it yet.
@@dyvfsdgdrgkhgderx9282 It did mention this but that's okay. The issue is that both games are based off Bendy so Ekrocoaster can't say they entirely copied when he kinda got inspiration from the same place. I definitely believe they bullied him but I think he jumped the gun with saying they copied him.
@@NobodyUndefined Oogh same here!! Unfortunately I don't think Ekrocoaster has a leg to stand on by saying they copied him... I mean... they're both so incredibly similar to Bendy that if anything it was only inspired :(
The bullying thing absolutely peeves me off though, but from what I've heard from a friend talking to the people in their discord they HAVE apologized privately and sorted things out. Plus, it WAS in 2018, that gives people room to change to be fair. Hhhhhh. Idk, even still it's all so shady to me, which really bums cause now Huggy's my only comfort character so like, damn, gotta split the creator with the creation in my head lol.
@@NobodyUndefined I'm hopeful that Poppy Playtime's popularity will quickly fade into oblivion and forever be considered as the forgotten relic of the past, like many other mainstream horror games that are diagnosed by Fazbear Syndrome. It's a never-ending, destructive cycle of repetition that will almost certainly never cease. Of course, it will always have a community fanbase of impressionable young children that would gradually eat it up until there's barely anything left.
That being said, however, I think it's completely fine to take several inspirations from the stuff you genuinely love. Just try make it unique in terms of presentation and avoid the symptoms of Fazbear Syndrome (such as marketing for children, overemphasizing the pointless "lore" to an insufferable degree, and generally not having any passion or care put into it, with the sole purpose as a lucrative, money-printing machine).
Been hearing a number of stories about how to AVOID Poppy Playtime and not give into the company behind it and this is really helping me sort this all out. Huge thanks for this wonderful and eye-opening video! o0o
As an older guy it is endlessly entertaining to hear about people "growing up" from content posted 6-7 years ago. I was in my mid twenties 6-7 years ago, my only experience of FNaF being Markiplier videos I got sick of by the second game.
I am always deep diving into these shady NFT/Crypto projects though. That's always a big red flag when a dev starts pushing that stuff.
To be honest, I never understood the people who saw a future for this game. Its history was a repetition of what had already been seen. The character designs are not that flashy and its creators are bad people. I feel that poppy playtime was the game that hurt the most. indie horror genre since the game for me is not even a little scary fnaf had in its first games a setting that scared you and hooked you to the story and what stood out to bendy was his artistic style and that he put new things to the table but poppy playtime is just one more recycling done by the way good video!
Couldn't said it better myself but man the 6 first games and the vr one are terrifying.
Personally I like recycling of a concept I like because I want to read/play something similar. Same way I read a bunch of manga/manhwa/etc with similar plotlines because I want more of that kind of story. I guess I'm just not tired of it yet.
That being said, I was only made aware of this company's actions when I watched this video so I guess my hopes for more PP games were crushed
@@apairofglasses775 Imo even Security Breach blows Poppy Playtime out of the water.
Sure its not all that scary, and its rough around the edges, but you can tell that the devs over at Steel Wool love the series and they put their hearts into it, even if it didn't quite work out as they had planned.
Poppy though? It feels artificial, like it was created with the sole purpose to capture the lightning in a bottle that games like FNaF and Bendy had caught, it feels like it was made to make money.
@@skaithespirit1184 but i didn't say anything about the devs of sb not caring about the game.
@@apairofglasses775 Yeah, I was just saying that even what many consider to be the weakest FNaF game still is leagues above Poppy.
ERKCoaster is such a Chad for spilling the beans for us, I sure hope he and other animators involved in this mess are feeling better! 💕
13:38 The first time I saw gameplay of Poppy's playtime, I thought it looked terrifying. Especially in the conveyer belt area. That level of creepy made me wonder. Why are kids into this? Now I realize they tried to market Poppy's playtime to all ages, but teens and adults are going to see the Fortnite playing kid audience it has and see it as cringe.
Not to mention that they plaster copyrighted characters on their own merch and no one seems to call them out on it. And everyone says that “the fazbear and friends show is actually funny” but it’s just so generic and child pandering that I don’t see any appeal. One good joke doesn’t make it good
Yeah, I'm surprised Scott hasn't heard about this yet. I don't think they even got his permission.
H-How did it take me, a whole F*CKING year, to realize they were plastering copyrighted characters on their own merch.
@@moltenspaghetti I'm hoping Scott Cawthon (or any other independent game devs out there) would rightfully sue them for the unauthorized use of his copyrighted characters.
Like at least game theory got permission and has a kinda friendship with Scott.
Wanted to say thank you for the creation of this video
I've heard that the creators have done bad stuff but never could find any coverage on it.
There's something weird about the creators of Poppy Playtime making loads of Minecraft videos for it collaborating with other franchises. For one thing when a fan makes a song or animations taking a lot of franchises and mashing them up it's just that, a fan project, but with them being made by the creators of one of the games it seems legally strange to me as it carries a certain level of authenticity/officiality and without the permission of the companies that own the other franchises, it's strange you know? Be like if that Bendy/Hello Neighbour Halloween crossover happened without TheMeatly's consent or something. Y'all feel me on this one?
Okay Enchantedmob is pretty scummy, but I won’t deny the vent chase scene in Chapter 1 is one of the most terrifying things in a horror game in quite some time, and the animations are very well done.
That being said I’m not going to buy the chapters, I’ll probably just watch people play it.
Fr living under a rock
pirate it then
@360NoSc0pe Yessir
@@binarypench Bro being dumb fr
@@Judge_0f_Everything hi, certified dumbasss here
I used to absolutely love Enchantedmob when I was younger but that love started to dive when they started doing the shorts. There are some areas where its funny but honestly the oversexualised and clickbaity thumbnails just seems like a cash grab at kids to fund their game. Also, the treatment of Ekrcoaster was uncalled for and honestly they should be grateful that people are inspired by their animations and games to support them. I hope they return to the good quality music videos or make more episodes of Fazbear and Freinds because I think it will do the channel some good.
When the first episode of Fazbear and Friends released, I knew the channel was gonna go downhill.
some of the writers are comedic geniuses but still work for minimum minimum wage
The funniest part is that the only reason why everyone started to hate on them and accusing them of actual crimes (like ped**hilia) is only because of NFTs, if wasn't because of that take for sure everyone would ignore this problems and there would be a more devided view on the company.
I honestly had no idea Poppy Playtime was even connected to EnchantedMob until now. Explains the sudden appearance of their characters in their videos. Which, I stopped watching after it became made for pre schoolers.
This makes me feel bad for supporting the game. I love the concepts in Poppy Playtime. Yes, it follows a lot of the same things that Bendy did. But I also adored Bendy, and see Poppy as just a better version of that. With better graphics and an intriguing setup to the first chapter.
I do not support anything they are doing or have done. But I have a personal policy of separating good content from their awful creators. As long as no references to NFTs, their treatment of others or their RUclips channel exist in game, then I will happily enjoy its content. Despite being 19, child horror is right up my alley. And I hope the next chapter improves upon it.
I imagine is less separating art from artist and more like separating art from whoever decided to add the Merch option in the main menu.
Both scream instant self-gratification no matter the costs regardless.
I never really was a fan of Poppy Playtime, and all of these controversies have cemented my disdain for the game.
Same
Same.
So, I stumbled across your channel thanks to Mat Pat/Game theory. And honestly I'm glad I did.
As a person who loves and lives with horror in their day to day life, and someone who wants to even speedrun and share more of a history of horror videogames or just videogames in general, seeing this honestly was very heartbreaking. I was aware of the story of FNaF, but never Hello Neighbor, or Poppy Playtime. I was decently aware of Bendy, and frankly, I'm glad that the only franchise of them all when I was a kid that I paid attention to was FNaF when I was still in high-school during what feels like forever ago now.
But I remember seeing this game, Poppy Playtime pop up every now and again, it always rubbed me the wrong way, a lot like Bendy. The games always looked very bare bones and were more style over substance. Because kids generally do not care about anything like proper and strong gameplay as long as it appeals to their attention spans, and appeals to their eye. And when a company that doesn't have a genuine love or care for what they're creating, a direction of where a game will go, will either be chaos or will become too simple, though their target demographics that they are aiming for now don't care enough for this sort of stuff. Between questionable gameplay/game design decisions, business practices, or general work conditions, kids aren't going to pay attention or even know where these discussions are happening.
As somebody who has always valued the importance of videogames on a historical level. Seeing what this company has done, it spits in the face of what not only the industry built for them to have this opportunity, trying to go as far as to taking advantage of people's charity with a questionable Kickstarter that didn't succeed but somehow the game's release was so close, but even going as far as to making something that looks uninspired, bare bones and only has a nice looking visual direction, it comes off as insulting to the people who they claim they are trying to advertise towards. And with everything this video has mentioned, it honestly was startling and horrifying in some cases. Because all I and many others saw on the surface was a new attempt at a unique horror experience.
This video made me never want to buy anything Poppy related and I'll try to encourage my friends and colleagues to do the same.
Love the content. Love the work you made here. Hope to see even more from you soon.
Bro write a paragraph lol
"As a"
It would actually like to speak on behalf of the older fans for EnchantedMob (including myself) as I think I can speak for a lot of us when I say the main reason why a lot of us don't like current in EnchantedMob is because even if you look two years ago they're animations were high-quality and full of life... while now they release shorts that they just put into compilations of other shorts that ALSO get released into compilations and the thumbnails are absolutely cancer and sometimes straight-up clickbait. Not to mention that it's obvious by the kind of videos that they make that they're going for a WAYYYYYY younger audience then what they were going for as early as two years ago (I feel confident in saying that not coming from someone who just grew out of it as I still get my fix on FNAF Minecraft animations from other RUclipsrs... and when they were still making Animation songs I was 16 and I was still loving them. So I'm sure this isn't a case where I just grew out of it)
As an older Enchantedmob fan, I can say that you read my mind. Also nfts suck
Thanks to say it man. I miss them
@@villageboy7768 same here. Their content actually looked good but now they had to sell out. I really stopped watching them when I found out they bullied Ekrcoaster. Now that this comes out, it makes me hate them even more.
Growing up, I used to look up to him bc of his high quality music videos, but now it just feels like he’s no longer making content out of passion and fun, but out of money and greed, it really sucks
Those old animations had actual heart and soul put to them, I still come back to watch them from time to time.
I was so amused by the arsonist wasp drama that I'd completely forgotten what video I'd even clicked on until the narration kicked back in
I really hope Poppy Playtime can live up to expectations, if no other reason than the animation team behind it is AMAZING. The concept behind the game itself is nothing incredible, but the animation for HW really wowed me when I first saw the game, especially in the vent section. And the trailer's animation was just as impressive! The talent that studio has working for them deserves all the acolades, and for that reason I hope the end product can do their work justice. It's always so sad to see beautiful visuals ruined hy a lackluster story
I’ve been trying to tell people about the developers shitty actions for a while, and nobody has ever listened. Glad to see I’m not the only one who knows the truth.
no one cares about it much sadly
@@GoldenArmorYeah Yeah, a lot of people just choose not to listen because they can’t believe the magical Poppy Playtime they’ve been using for views is made by shitty devs.
@@colapepsiman9938 Yep, and the other part of the fans which are mostly kids don’t find this info and don’t care either
I was wondering why Ekrcoaster had such a bad light with Animation Sins. It's just unfortunate that the team decided to really put 3 feet forward on the plate of destruction when it came to Ekrcoaster as a creator and their pure love for their craft. I didn't know Ekrcoaster much, but I remember being so entrapped in awe by their animations and even getting my chance to have a small conversation. I hope they are doing well and that they find their retribution in one way or another.
As for Zamination and EnchantedMob, not only have they fallen off, but they have gone 6 feet under. Not only figurately and literally, but more metaphorically as well. They have dug so deep into their craft and tried so hard to become another capitalist corporation, that they forgot what was important for their community and their own good. Although, those newer animations can get a kick out of a few of us once in awhile.
All in all, rise Ekrcoaster and fall Mob Studios (or whatever new nickname they'll come up with next)
Enchanted Mob made Poppy Playtime? I used to respect that game... God..
I am very glad you made this video to bring awareness of Enchantmentmob, and how they are just using Poppy Playtime to shill money out of people with NFTs and made a game with stolen ideas from an passionate developer. I lost respect with Enchantmentmob when announcing the NFTs, but when I found out about this situation…I became depressed because the amount of similarities between the ideas of Venge and Poppy Playtime, the huge attention on Poppy, and the disgusting crimes Enchantmentmob has committed against ekrcoaster.
It may be shameful to admit that I hope Poppy Playtime to fail and disappear sooner with the rising backslash, but sadly…things will keep moving the way they wanted. Unless, we bring and fight for awareness against Enchantmentmob.
Hopefully this gets spread around more. I was honestly pretty into chapter 1 and had no idea about any of this. Thanks for letting people know
Honestly it's sad to see.
There was a small timeframe where Zamination/EnchantedMob made very high quality animations that didn't just mash well known characters and IPs together to draw in kids for views. My favourite of these, even today, is their animation for the FNAF song "After show". Incredible animation, very creative and actually kind of dark for a Minecraft animation. I highly recommend you check it out.
I'm glad I never supported Poppy Playtime. Just the name alone makes me feel like it's a rip off of Baldi's Basics, and even that was an awful trend for an actual interesting horror game.
Yup. Poppy playtime always looked boring
@Chris TheArcticFox And at least the creator(s) of Baldi's Basics never even thought about making NFTs or make weird and surprisingly well-animated Minecraft animations with clickbaity thumbnails.
@@brunettebi4111 Yeah the developers made a Deluxe version of Baldi's Basics with totally new stuff and genuinely cares about their fans.
@@Oyebadumn and it's like a game not a walking simulator throwing lore in your face no its a basically a modern day version of 3d monster maze
@@brunettebi4111 They Stopped Making NFTS
Time to add this on the list of things that seemed good at first but turned out to be my worst nightmare next.
Ahhh, *sigh* .
I think the reason poppy grabbed my attention so well is the liminal space that chapter one had. I mean just the main menu and the soundtrack playing just gives THAT beautiful vibe. That's why poppy catches my attention so hard
Just got a poppy playtime ad on this, clearly yt isnt even that good at advertising the right thing at the right time lol.
Thank you so much for covering this!!! I used to follow ZAM, and EMob until I got old enough it just wasnt funny anymore. And then I found out they went to making adult content geared towards kids.
CK9 used to make videos with him, and I havent seen anyone talking about what EMob has done in the more recent comments. But hopefully people will go over this more soon.
I used to enjoy their music videos when I was younger. I took a look back at their channel recently and I physically recoiled.
The fact that I got a Poppy Playtime ad on this video was scarier than seeing Huggy Wuggy coming after that ass
this video was extremely well-made. this is only the second video ive seen from you, but im really enjoying the high-quality content! already subbed xx
Enchanted Mob: Supports NFT’s
Everyone: We have a new enemy
Its always rubbed me the wrong way that a company would make animations of other companies characters.
It’s parody
@@somethingcraft3148 Its not just some dude, its a straight up competitor making money off of their opponents product.
@@insertgoodchannelnamehere Its A Parody
I used to watch EnchantedMobs animations back in 2015-2020, and this hurts as hell to know that one of your childhood inspirations was so selfish.
i actually had submitted a job application to work for enchantedmob/mobstudios as a designer before i learned about all of this stuff. i spoke with zach directly over email a number of times and after he said he was interested in my work, i tried to set up an interview and he ghosted me. that left a sour taste in my mouth, and showed lack of professionalism... but now seeing how they treated ekrcoaster and the whole NFT thing... i'm kinda glad i never got an interview after all.
Along with explaining the issues with Enchanted Mob, this has been one of the rare videos where I actually like the sponsored segment
What I learned: Batim superiority
Honestly I’ve been heavily obsessed with Batim for a while now and I’ve been noticing recent games having uncomfortably similar plots and getting a lot more attention- I know that Batim kinda died off but I still love it and it’s a shame to see other games taking a similar plot and shifting it and getting popular when a beloved classic is being forgotten. I’m not saying that they completely ripped off Batim, they’re both different in there own ways- I’m just sad that people forget about Batim. It’s honestly a bit heart warming To see people remember it and give it credit since Batim has been a huge part of my life and has helped me with a lot of struggles and has over all helped me figure out who I am as an artist and a person.
I'm sorry, but Bendy is genuine garbage post episode 2. 3-5 are tedious, have awful plots, are very obviously meant to have HuGe twists that end up making the lore too messy and let's not even talk about how Bendy himself was ruined. Even then, both the first episodes are meh at best: 1 is I Spy and 2 is I Spy + slight combat + chase sequence. I'm glad it helped you, but frankly Bendy was a cashgrab ever since Mike Mood joined Meatly (Especially now that we know how scummy he is, with all the layoffs).
The superiority belongs to the first 4 FNaF games. Before Vanny, before Fazgoo and the Ballpit, before SL's crazy sci-fi setting. Back when FNaF was scary robot pizzerias, and a murderous father wanting revenge on his dead kid. Those were the days.
same, ive liked batim since i was 9 and i hate how people are just forgetting about it and favoring really dumb cashgrabs like ppt
man the situation between mob and ethan is crazy. I dont realy look into horror games like theirs but what happened is literally when someone tells someone elses joke louder. I had no idea venge existed but i knew about poppy cuz it was literally everywhere
It's so sad how their charming Minecraft animations from when I was a child that made me smile have been reduced to this.
Gosh you have no idea how happy i am to find this video!! I've been literally confused the wholleee timmeee!!! Everyone was talking about how bad the developers of poppy playtime are and how they bullied and stole other people's works and i just couldn't believe it! I started doing a lot of researches but none of them led me to anywhere! That's until your video suddenly showed up in my recommendations!! THANK YOU SM BUDDY YOU'VE EARNED MY SUB!! Also that's a great explanation right here, direct to the point and even organized perfectly to deliver the whole idea.. I am so darn satisfied rn THANKS AGAIN :D
poppy playtime is an incredibly enjoyable and polished game, the chase scene, while short, is incredibly well executed and i hope that the other chapters consist of more moments that bring out that fight or flight feeling that chase scene did. but everything else that game and it's devs have done to promote that game seems so hollow. the game itself is good but the way it carries its reputation is not
its literally the only part of chapter 1 where you can actually lose lol
That sponsor bit was gold,
“Just gold”
G- get it? Just gold- I give up
throws tomatoes at you
@@the_feathered_goat6172 fuck.
Throws rotten fruits at you
Leave
@@takuso1229 aw
Yes!!! I'm so happy people are finally paying attention to this.
Holy crap, theft king!
The one thing I've always noticed about this game (with even my first time hearing it and seeing it myself) it was EXACTLY like Bendy and the Ink Machine! But every time I tried explaining to people that it was the exact same people wouldn't listen and would just gush about the characters and the "amazing story" WHICH ISN'T EVEN ORIGINAL!! I had SOO much evidence like:
Coming back to an old job after some mysterious accidents occur
Experiments on people to make your "toys" (AKA CARTOON!!!) more "lifelike" to basically get more money and expand the business (*COUGH* JOEY *COUGH* DREW!!)
Getting the main "bad guy" chasing you at the very end to only be "taken" down so easily (Bendy and Huggy) HELL EVEN THEIR ENTERANCES ARE SOMEWHAT THE SAME BEFORE THEY START CHASING YOU!!
Posting it in chapters (Yes, I know that some other games do this, but what I'm talking about is the fact the quality changes for each episode and judging by the Trailer for chapter 2 for Poppy Playtime IT TOOK THE EXACT SAME IDEA FOR CHAPTER 2 FOR BATIM AND IT'S SO FUSTRATING)
The "tapes" you have to play and you getting to know certain "characters" through them (CMON EVEN SOME OF THE CHARACTERS HAVE ALMOST THE SAME PERSONALITIES)
Don't even get me started on how Poppy is the exact same as Alice Angel (and if MatPat is right she is basically taking the same approach as Alice.) She even says, "Your Perfect" and doesn't want you to die "Just Yet" CMON PEOPLE OPEN YOUR EYES!!! HECK, SHE EVEN GUIDES YOU AS SHOWN IN THE TRAILER!! I MEAN ITS REALLY SLAPPING YOU IN THE FACE AT THIS POINT!!
I could honestly go on and on, these games are almost the exact same and the fact nobody even listened or bothered was crazy! Until now!! I was so happy that this was finally brought to people's attention (I honestly thought I was going crazy) the whole game is BATIM with a Poppy Playtime fliter with a few minor tweaks and the fact the 2 creators fight over how their games are sOooOOoo similar but not even acknowledging the fact that they're both just a basic copy of Bendy is ludicrous. So, I am glad I finally saw people saying the same things I did. Sorry about this rant but Im just relieved I finally saw people talking about this.