Here is the thing tho, Twisted tempo used the data from Ryuga vs Jack, so in this timeline, twisted tempo would either be much much weaker as Zigarot will have to use the data from Zeo vs Ryuga. So it would either lead to 2 scenarios. 1) Hades plan fails as they were unable to gauge the full power of L drago (What they assumed would be the full power) and they end up not creating Tempo resulting in Toby dying. 2) Hades creates tempo anyway using Leone and a fraction of L drago's power, which makes the battle between Kyoya (or gingka) and masamune vs Faust a lot easier as Zeo during his fight against Ryuga was weaker than Masamune.
This video made me realize that end of metal masters Kyoya is stronger then end of metal masters Gingka. Hear me out, during Kyoya and Damiens battle, Damien said that he used the arrangement with Gingka's battle to become even stronger. So Kyoya faced and won against a stronger Damien. But you can still say that Gingka was still stronger. Now here is the thing, during the last episode where gingka tries to absorb the spiral force, gingka himself was confused on whether he can surpass the power he had during the final match against Damien. So i do think end of masters kyoya maybe stronger than Gingka. But you can obviously argue against this
1. Strongest arrangement Damian vs (Metal Fusion) base Ryuga? 2. (Metal Fusion) base Ryuga vs Kyoya? 3. Gingka vs Kyoya in Metal Masters if Gingka still had Storm Pegasus? 4. Metal Fusion base Ryuga vs the version of Kenta that damaged L-Drago Destructor? 5.) Would fully possessed Ryuga with Lightning L-Drago do better/worse against Rago?
1. Daiman stomps mismatch 2. Kyoya 3. Kyoya easily. 4. Kenta wins. 5. Ryuga with meteo l drago said he's much powerful than he's ever been at that time meaning his possessed self would do worse.
Nile is the best blader from Africa in season 2 which is probably why he's not too far behind the aces of most teams. Having him as a number 2 really make Wild Fang cracked.
@@dan-c3l No he can't, he's obviously gonna loose to Gingka. And he will most definitely give Dashain and Julian a run, especially Argo as well. But the only one there that can defeat him is Dashain. I'd say he's slightly stronger and way more skilled. And Damain too, he's gonna wreck Nile. So realistically, at least 3 out of 5 blayders from that list will win against Nile. And 2 of them are a unanimous decision
And I’ve realised something.. if Nile beat Zeo then what happens to Toby? Cuz Zeo has promised Ziggurat to win and if he lost Toby’s treatment would be cut off.. so I’ll say Ziggurat would lie on Zeo or something and then shock him with the new look of Toby or “Faust” so even if Toby would still turn to Faust Zeo would go through a huge mental breakdown or an immense grudge against team WildFang idk a lot of ideas could have good points 😭
One thing I think that you’re overlooking is Leone was in bad shape after the A block semifinals and then didn’t have a real battle until Spiral Core Damian. Similar to when Leone was injured in Metal Fusion against Yu after consecutive matches in the Survival Battle I think the writers would’ve dragged that on and it comes back to bite Kyoya against the Garcias or Damian. That is unless he gets Madoka to fix up Leone at some point which is possible but especially if you’re having him fight Ian and Argo back to back Leone is gonna need a tune up
One thing I am intrigued about is a battle between Kyoya and Ryuga post metal masters but before their beys evolved. We get to see Leone with all the special moves vs the reborn stronger version of L-drago. Moves like king lion reverse wind strike however would basically be useless since the tornado spins counter clockwise meaning it would just make ldrago spin faster.
Nice video as always. I agree with almost everything, except for Wildfangs vs Garcias, because I believe it would be a much riskier fight than we could think. If the Garcias used a continuous battle against GanGan, it's because they are quite smart and they knew than most GanGan members are too naive and honest, which was their weakness in this fight. I think they would try something different with Wild Fang since the true weakness of this team is that they only have two strong fighters. (and anyway, Kyoya would probably refuse the continuous battle, since he would have no true interest in Garcia's team). The plan could be to play all-in and send Argo directly against Nile for a first round, since they approximately have the same strength. I think everyone will say that Nile is stronger because people are biased and think he's too cool, but Argo is clearly strong, almost as strong as the strongest Tsubasa who is far better than Masamune at this point, so I think he could have a chance. If Nile wins it, then Wild Fang wins easily, but if Argo wins, then they could send Selene against Kyoya just as a sacrifice to set a third round against Benkei or Damure that Ian would win in a cyclone stadium. So this battle would ultimately rely on Nile and Argo, which in my opinion, could go both ways. It would be quite fun that Garcia wins it because Ziggurat wouldn't have enough data with a crappy finale to finish Tempo and it would probably delay his spirale energy for much later.
That’s actually hella interesting. But even if Argo beats Nile, wildfang prolly still takes just due to the destructive nature of Nile and kyoyas special moves which likely ends up destroying the cyclone center. And then Benkei Lowk might just take out Ian 😭
@@jayanmazumder359Benka ain't winning shit lmao. But if he gets lucky and hits any of them unexpected, well then there will be some good amount of damage dealt
@@jayanmazumder359 Yes you're right, I didn't think about that. The stadium would probably be destroyed, except if they decide to repair it between the 2nd and 3rd fight (they did it after every Tsubasa's fight, so it's likely they do it here too) If the stadium is destroyed, I think Benkei might take it but not sure, because Ian isn't very strong but is still able to resist a bit against Gingka, as Benkei would I think so it would be close. Damure would loose for sure.
Argo is not winning against Nile. We've seen Nile clash head-on with Argo evenly in episode 96. He didn't look like he was struggling against Argo whatsoever unlike Tsubasa who admitted he couldn't clash head-on with Argo. Even so, Argo retreated shortly afterward implying he knew how big of a threat Nile was in that situation. The only reason Tsubasa was struggling against Argo is because Argo is an almost perfect counter to Tsubasa. Ray Gil's special energy ring protects him from almost all Tsubasa's special moves (Shining Tornado Buster had to aim for Ray Gil's performance tip to K.O. him), Eagle's large fusion wheel gets overpowered due to the 100RSF performance tip delivering a vast amount of knockback in attack power from Ray Gil (which is mostly a problem with Eagle facing against attack types in general), and Argo himself is a crafty individual that can almost counter any counterplay Tsubasa had in mind. Even then, after Tsubasa wins that battle, we still see he has plenty of fight left in him even if Eagle was damaged in the battle (although that's due to Eagle attacking Ray Gil from above resulting in the jagged edges of the energy ring to badly scrape the fusion wheel). This is all-important context as to why Tsubasa had to go high diff when facing Argo. When comparing with Nile and seeing what happened in episode 96, it's safe to say that the Golden Fusion Wheel should be able to overpower most of Argo's attacks and Mystic Zone should be able to Keel Strangler. In other words, Nile should win here. Other than that, most likely what would happen if Benkei and Demure were sent out would be similar to what happened in their match against GanGan Galaxy where they would request a Team Battle. I think they would pull through due to Demure's Eye-Sight and Analyzing coming in clutch here. Albeit, that one is more debatable truth be told.
This alternate scenario seems realistic. I would just add that Tsubasa and Yu's fight against Benkei and Demure was the catalyst for Ryuga's reintroduction. Before that, the issue with the dark power wasn't as obvious for the rest of the team. lso, I kind of agree that Gingka tends to rely too often on power surges to save him in the anime. He uses his brain more in the manga.
@@Mrchearty0 The manga and anime are different. In the anime, Gingka tied with Kyoya due to plot armour. Gingka having a legendary beyblade is the plot armour. Kyoya deserved to win because he worked harder than Gingka and outsmarted him to the point where he had no answer. All he did was scream and use the power of friendship.
@@emmy4537 plot armour? Are you kidding? Really? Then you shouldnt say writers destroyed kyoya because they are the ones who make kyoya stronger in anime hes weak in manga besides gingka has galaxy pegasus, can you understand this? It is the father of all pegasuses,no one could control this beyblade Except gingka, also this bey is so powerful even stronger than l drago, in manga l dragos 4 evulotion l drago has the same spintrack and performence tip as galaxy pegasus, can you understand how powerful it is? Even l drago have the same spintrack and performance tip after 3 evulation. This beyblade is perfect. It cant be defeated by a season bey like leone. It is beyond leone. Even we can say it is the god of season beys. You cant reach this power simply by "training". This is the star fragment It isnt plot armour gingka is the only one who can control this bey, if you're saying this is plot armour then no one should be main chacter in any serie, gingka is main character because hes the only one who can use galaxy pegasus
Nile vs Klaus would be really close since Klaus fought a stronger and more competent Masamune. I doubt anyone in WF would end up getting ambushed by the Garcias like Yu did, and whether it's elimination or standard 1v1s, Nile and Kyoya take the W. Don't know if it would change much, but in the finals, there'd me no drama or storyline between Masamune and Zeo, or it would at least play out differently once Masamue recognises Zeo on screen. As for whether it's Zeo or Jack Nile faces, it's actually close either way since Magnetic Needle Storm was massive and covered the whole area, and Jack decently strong and destroyed Klaus. I also don't see how Ziggurat would get Ryuga's data is he doesn't need to be a replacement member, or if Damian would attack the team at all.
11:11-This also has a problem tho. Team Wild Fang already has a win with Nile,so if Ryuga shows up for the 2nd round with Jack,Wild Fang would win 2-0 and Kyoya vs Damian wouldn't happen,but if Kyoya would go 2nd, Ryuga vs Jack wouldn't happen. Either way,Ziggurat would lack the data for 1 bey.At best he could use the data from Kyoya's past matches or use Damian's data for Tempo,but the result would be weaker anyway.
The amount of kids in the comments here thinking Kyoya loses to Lulian is too funny 😂 Just because Kyoya tied with Gingka doesn't mean Kyoya loses to Julian. Kyoya in Masters always follows with every Gingka power boost. If Gingka could beat Lulian by Episode 29, Kyoya would have done the same. Seriously stop glazing Lyuga and Lingka and all these plot armor jabronis and pay attention to the show 😂
Gingka learnt a whole new special move and had to master Pegasus in order to beat Julian while kyoya went back to the valley of the storms to train some more. Without kyoya going back to the valley he’d still be at below Julians level. U cant just say “Kyoya automatically has the same power level as gingka throughout the show no matter what time period” thats just stupid wtf… and stop using L in every characters name that shit is cringy asf
The fight between the Garcia siblings and WildFang is interesting cuz of the knockout battle, I wish we could have more knockout battles somehow cuz it’s fun xdd But I wanna say I don’t think Nile and Kyoya will take the battle on their own, either Benkei or Demure would have to battle because we know the Garcia wouldn’t stop at just these tricks and they would do something similar to what happened to Yu, I can see the poor boy Nile being targeted here, they know Nile and Kyoya are the strongest in the team so they would try to damage Horuseus I know Kyoya still take care of business here but yk 😭
The Garcias are all completely cooked against Nile. We've seen from episode 96 that Nile clashed evenly with Argo and that he's able to overpower the Black Excalibur pretty easily. Argo is completely getting slammed by Nile and rightfully so.
That is a pretty interesting idea, however it neglects the fact that the wbba and Rio by extension only know about the dark power possessing Tsubasa of the third round Tag Team battle, so no Benkai and Demorai vs Tsubasa and Yu, no Ryuga vs Tsubasa II, Personally, I would have written it away That masamune and Niall ended up in the tie and it was a fluke tie that masamune recognizes as such at that thus whenever Kyoya and Ginga decide to be stubborn when it should have been Niall and Demaree vs masamune and yu, masamune's line of "there's no way I can beat Niall straight up in a one-on-one" still makes sense
The only thing is that if Masamune and Nile tied, followed by Gingka and Kyoya's tie, GanGan Galaxy would've won the entire set with the Tag Battle in the third round. Keep in mind: it's _best of three,_ not _first to two._ Those are not the same thing. The reason the fourth battle even happened in the anime is because after three battles, the two teams were tied with one win each.
@@DancingFoxfire No i'm talking in this video's universe, where Kyoya beat Ginga in every aspect of the battle except for plot armor so in this videos universe instead of the actual Thai being between the two big rivals
the mastered Pegasus is an awful argument. So when Kenta lost all his battles before Metal Fury was it because he didn't master seggaterio? Or when Kyoya lost to Doji in metal fusion was it because Kyoya didn't master Leone? Or is it because of the time of the fight they were just a weaker opponent? The mastery argument could be used for literally everyone in the series. How is it we only use the mastered bey argument for gingka? But if I were to say the only reason that anyone else loses is because their bey wasn't masterd I'd look crazy. The fight of Metal Masters between Kyoya and Gingka Kyoya was stronger during the battle. It's not Kyoyas's fault that he out-trained Gingka, it's his fault for not training hard enough. The mastering Pegasus rule is garbage. It's about their power levels at the exact time of the fight. During their exact battle in Metal Masters, kyoya was stronger than Gingka. No argument.
@@SeyeAwonuga You gotta learn how to read little bro. He said when he mastered Galaxy Pegasus. And Gingka did get a bit stronger later in metal masters. And I somewhat agree with him. If Gingka mastered his bey, and was able to pull out Star Dust Driver, I'm confident there's nothing Ryuga or Kyoya could do to go up and match that power, maybe they can. But I think if they do, they would loose. Tho it will be close.
For years I believed that the Wild Fang team was stronger than GanGan Galaxy. First, unlike GanGan Galaxy, Wild Fang have ALWAYS won their matches with two wins in a row. And secondly, Kyoya and Nile are smarter in battle than Gingka and Masamune and are not dupes like them. In short, I think that the creators may have known that Wild Fang are stronger than GanGan Galaxy, but they decided to take pity on the Japanese team, probably because Masamune is the protagonist and face of the Metal Masters season. Now... I'm curious how you would see the Metal Masters season go if Kyoya joined the GanGan Galaxy team... 😁😉
The problem with wild fang is that while Nile is stronger then either tsubasa or Masamune, Benkei and Demure are way weaker than the other teams number 3 and 4. Demure is more like a analyst than a fighter, and let's be real, Benkei wasn't really strong after metal fusion
The result would be the same. Expect that Gingka doesn't need to try as much, and Ryuga can't just relay on plot amour to win. He would actually need to battle
If kyoya wins in final battle against damian and it was being 2nd round .... How could zigarat collects l dragos data ...because then there is no rauga and jack battle.....so twisted tempo would be on created on leon and destroyers data and wont be so strong
I disagree with kyoya vs Julian mainly because kyoya in this timeline scrapes by an under powered gingka, who would’ve never beaten Julien if it weren’t for ryuga, gingka would lost quickly(eyes of Medusa), kyoya could maybe potentially break out of the eyes of Medusa for pure will but at this stage he isn’t beating black Excalibur, I think since Sophie and wales always battle second, and kyoya always battle second, he would take benkai or demure and just basically 1v2 and beat them and that’s how Wildfang wins, just my opinion tho, nice vid
IDK. It's shown multiple times that Kyoya does not lack in training. I wouldn't doubt Kyoya being stronger than Julian. At the end of the season Kyoya beats Damien that has undergone an arrangement from his battle against Gingka and theoretically should be stronger than Gingka. Regarding counters to Destroyer. 100 Fang Fury would work since Leon would have to move and could just create the tornado to attack Julian with debris. He can also lift Leon up using True Lion Gale Force Wall like he did against Gingka. Kyoya is probably the most versatile Blader in the entire series
I disagree with you because mastering Pegasus doesn't mean he couldn't have beaten Julian before. Sure the Starbooster attack doesn't work but it didn't work on Kyoya neither. He beat Kyoya with the raw unleashed power of Galaxy Pegasus and exerted himself so heavily that he collapsed. Sure Pegasus goes on to be stronger but Gingka drew out the most power from his bey against Kyoya (barring the finale against the spiral force). Plus styles make fights so just because Ep21 Gingka ties with Kyoya doesn't mean Kyoya would lose to Julian.
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 I thinking during the fight against Julien , there is a moment where the star booster attack has been completely beaten , previously it’s just been halted and countered but Julien straight up beat it, and gingka mentioned he was a truly strong opponent , without ryugas advice , he wouldn’t have created a special move to defeat him, at this point of the story, Julien was to strong of an opponent for normal means.
@@tikitakaboyz5050 true but remember that at this point , the gravity helmet would negate any debris as we seen Julien being sent into a building without any damage, I completely agree at the end of the story, kyoya is the stronger balder no doubt, but at this point , I disagree
He would but its kinda like saying if gingka had Galaxy nova when he fought Ryuga the first time. He would win. LIke yes ofc he would win, but gingka still hadnt unlocked that power yet.
Ok here is what happens Team Wild Fang vs Excallibur Damure and Benkei vs Sophie and Wales - Excallibur wins, though Damure is strategic and Benkei is mere raw force, Cetus are just stronger in general + Grand Decalion flushes them away with an ease. Nile vs Claus- Honestly tough choice, but I would give it to Claus, but it would be more insane than Masamune , Nile is calm and can counter in late state, meanwhile Claus can surpass his limit to deliver a final finishing blow, which is the upper hand Kyoya vs Julian-Kyoya would be in difficulty, but wins, sadly the Excallibur still wins the war regardless. Kyoya will win this one, he is training like insane, he is also the rival of Gingka, mops floors with everyone on the ring, his special moves are brutal, Julian wouldn't do a lot, except to stall and cause troubles, Black Excallibur wouldn't really deal with tornadoes all around, Eyes of Medusa will petrify Leone just for a while until king lion awakens to break through and continue to fight. 2-1 for Excallibur Wild Fang vs Team Garcia (with the same rules and non-stop battle until the victory) Damure vs Enzo- Damure whoops that clown who's just troll and no skills, Damure is also strategist, calm and intelligent. Selene interferes to finish him off, knowing Damure wouldn't be too aware what to do, even if would it mean for him to prepare next defense, So far 1-1. Next up Benkei interferes, causing Selene to panic after the Bu-Bu-BULL to avenge fallen comrade and depends, if Red Horn Uppercut is used right away Selene gets destroyed without a chance to run, otherwise she will exhaust Benkei like Gingka. The troll tactics with run and etc will take up an effect, however not being enough to win against Benkei, she will retreat, but no matter in both cases she is toast so 2-1 for WF, then Ian interferes and wipes Benkei right away with a powerful launch. Kyoya will be pissed a lot about that, but Nile calmly enters and begins to fight him, but he will beware of the stadium and Garcia by spectating them earlier closely. Both are pretty stubborn bladers, Ian isn't that much of a cheat, but he is insane when hits with Cyclone Attack, meanwhile the immovable object Horuseus will struggle or become golden as against Striker and make Ian ultra mad, in both cases Nile won't lose until the final special moves are used. Have in mind a Cyclone Attack tears down Herculeo's spin by 10%, so Horuseus has a high chance to win it. Yet, I think here's a tie or Nile wins it, most likely a tie, because Ian isn't Masamune and he is much more durable. 3-2 for Wild Fang, which means final chance for Garcia to tie and survive, then Kyoya and Argo enter. An arrogant big bro against an insane leader with a very powerful fighting spirit to clash. Knowing Kyoya and Argo, there's no chance for Garcia, Metal Masters Kyoya is no more defense, he will strike Ray Gil with full power to let Argo he is done for, Leone won't be scratched like what Tsubassa had on Eagle either, Argo will still try using the stadium and that special move to tear him apart, then Kyoya smirks at him mocking his skills and ending it without efforts with Reverse Wind Strike, perhaps also nearly ripping his Ray Gil to assert dominance so WF wins 4-2. Wild Fang vs Team Star Breaker Zeo vs Damure- Zeo wins hands down, Destiny's Needle will rip apart Damure very fast and then game over, no chance avoiding it with such a difference in powers. Jack would probably want a tag to save Damian's efforts, perhaps would like to face Nile and Benkei 2 on 1- Battle starts, a shielding Horuseus and powerhouse Dark Bull attacking Befall like freak. Jack's bey has infinite stamina, therefore Jack just mocks them both, Nile attempts to study Jack by trying to use Horuseus's signature move, which also won't work leaving him surprised really badly, meanwhile Jack will start trolling with the art stuff speech and counterattack, yet being blocked by both Bull and Horuseus sending him blown into the stadium, causing them to think Befall will stop spinning by locking it trapped, Jack panics and then taunts them by having Befall to cut the walls shocking everyone and pissing Kyoya again to order his teammates to finish Jack already. Then Jack grins using Befall the Ripper, which will definitely ends Dark Bull after running for a while, Nile will turn his bey golden to survive, but it won't really help him for a lot, Befall will slam into it being pushed several times until Nile is shocked after realizing his bey is damaged and shakes losing spin power. Nile will attempt to fight until win, until waits the right time for Mystic Zone, then Jack uses Beautiful Death, field turns into giant explosion, Jack freaks out, Nile gets super sayan and both clash until the end, but Befall just blows him out (Jack has arrangement), all people are shocked while Jack laughs on the end and Nile falls down humiliated which will make Kyoya furious for what Jack has done and just enters the ring to battle Jack, annihilating him with King Lion Tearing Blast to send Befall out of the stadium which will enrage Kyoya with a quick win. (I didn't add Ryuga here, Kyoya is too proud and wouldn't let anyone do his on battles) And finally Damian vs Kyoya- Same thing as their last battle, Kyoya will have troubles, but still act the same, same for Damian, perhaps a bit different tactics this time, but still Kyoya wins, however Star Breaker takes the cake, Jack did the kicker, Zeo owned Damure, and Kyoya is not enough on his own. Wild Fang are very strong no doubt, but they won't make it to the finals, if Kyoya solos, then probably will do it to the finals. And here we go again, Kyoya was right when he said that he didn't need anyone else, he is strong alone.
Could Kyoya beat that Ryuga? I think he has a solid shot but it depends on whether Ryuga gets taken over by the dark power like he did during the semi finals.
In these second round Battle Bladers matches, I think Gingka still beats Reiji and Kyoya loses to Ryuga. As for the Benkei vs. Kenta and Tsubasa vs. Ryutaro - I think Tsubasa would beat Ryutaro, but in the latter fight I would lean more towards Kenta as he is very keen on fighting Gingka in the finals, while Benkei would be thinking more about facing Kyoya at the same stage of the tournament. So Kenta's determination strengthens his Blader Spirit a bit, which allows him to defeat Benkei. And now in this little alternate timeline the following semifinal fights should be: Kenta vs. Tsubasa and Gingka vs. Ryuga. But Doji realizes that Ryuga should not fight Gingka before the final, so he shuffles the fight card here as well. However, no matter who Gingka and Ryuga fight at this stage, they both win their fights and advance to the finals, so even this small change in the course of the Battle Bladers does not affect its ending. Uniquely, Tsubasa in this timeline might not have been tainted by the dark power if he had faced Gingka in the semi-finals. Kenta, on the other hand, would suffer even more in the fight against Ryuga than he did against Reiji in the original timeline.
While rewatching some episodes of Metal Masters, I noticed a scene with Yu and Tsubasa in the hospital after Damian had messed them up. There was a video chat with Ryo and where they discussed getting a third replacement member. They also mentioned that they could suspend Team Starbreaker from the tournament for what they did, but Gingka refused-first because of the Blader's "heart-to-heart" nonsense, and second, for plot reasons. Later it cuts to Excalibur training harder for their battle. This got me thinking: what if they did suspend Team Starbreaker? Wouldn't that mean Excalibur would automatically move into the finals and face Masamune and Gingka in this scenario? So, it raises the question: could this post-training Excalibur beat Masamune and Gingka? Could make a good video. 👀
very much no.. if we follow strength used in anime in finals gingka alone could take all 3 of them and easily win. even if gingka has to battle twice he would easily win.
@@strahinjaradosavljevic5729 Well, I bet Masamune is gonna lose to Klaus in the first round as usual. For the 2 if it’s a team battle. Gingka and an already fatigued Masamune battles. But if Gingka takes both of them on which is possible he’s gonna be fatigued for his rematch with Julian and Masamuna is completely fatigued at this point and in this point in time in our story, Gingka hasn’t had his power up while battling Damian. And Julian is much stronger this time so Maybe Julian could pull out a win just barely tho or I’m wrong and Gingka wins as usual🤷🏼♂️
@@peterzindros9238 Again. Gingka was only able to win against Damian. Cause According to Kyoya he borrowed Ryuga Strength. And 2 he wouldn't have gotten the power-ups from battling Damian in this scenario. So at this current time. He is still just the same Blader who defeated Julian in Italy and like I mentioned before Klaus could Probably beat Masamuna. Again for the first round in the second round, it’s a team battle with Sofia and whales. Against Gingka and an already tired Masamune who’s not gonna be much help. Gingka is gonna have to dig deep to beat them both since they are stronger too. And for the third match. A fatigued Gingka might have to face Julian. Who is much stronger than their last fight It’s possible but as in classic BeyBlade fashion, the plot would decide.
@@kraemerrseviltwin5768 gingka literally was going toe to toe with damian who destroyed excalibur alone.. and he even said that he wasnt using his full power either.. that was enough to excalibur to lose so.. gingka would still won 2 battles in a row against excalibur if that was necessary.
While the Garcia's battle is, interesting? The agreement of the survival battle while in character Kyoya would agree but Nike would pick up it's a trap and call it out Then the Star Breakers battle, depends if the Ryuga bit stick around because if yes, then Damian vs Kyoya doesn't happen at least not until later down the line. The point of the "worlds strongest right" loses steam because Jack vs Ryuga is too important to drop off so it'd end after Ryuga vs Jack
Yeah but i feel like Kyoya might be just decide to go for it anyway and change their order of battling since the reason wild fang goes nile first and kyoya second is to get the win quickly and efficiently. However during the Garcia battle, Nile might convince Kyoya to send out benkei first who i am sure is stronger then Enzo and will be able to weaken Salen. Then nile just destroys Salen and Ian before kyoya one shots Argo
@@blackoutamvs6550while that's true, Nile is the one who coordinated 2v2 match so Nile has a keen ability to read the power scaling. Only difference would be Benkai and Demure doing a 2v2 Selen and Enzo which as we seen. Benkei can solo both of them
I think it would be Nile vs Jack... By looking at the strength of Nile, he could have sent Jack instead of Zeo... Just like they did against X calebor.... Not sure but it would be nice to see Jack vs anile instead of Zeo vs Nile.... My POV 😊
I honestly can’t see Wild Fang destroying Team Starbreaker aka the final bosses in a sweep. What if it was Jack vs Nile first matchup? There’s no way Nile wins that one. Also we know Benkei and Demure ain’t beating nobody. Kyoya HEAVILY carries this team
would dr.ziggurat have enough data on L-drago to make tempo without the Jack Vs Ryuga match because remember Ryuga Broke out of hade's city almost immediately. so would he have enough data on L-Drago.
I think he would just use the data of gravity destroyer as planned in the Starbreaker vs Xcalibur matchup. I doubt ziggurats whole plan was dependent on ryuga pulling up, cus there’s no way he could have predicted that. I’d assume his original plan was to use the data of destroyer and Pegasus.
This is glazing Kyoya by assuming he automatically wins against Julian. You said "we already went over this" but never really went over how Kyoya would win this fight. Kyoya tied with Gingka before Gingka trained with Ryuga, and it took that power boost for Gingka to overcome Julian. What did Kyoya do to match that power jump at that point in the series to overcome Julian too? Julian was the strongest blader we saw at that point outside of Ryuga before Gingka had his large powerup Same thing could be said about the Damian fight too. You said that Kyoya defeated a stronger version of Damian, but that was also a stronger version of Kyoya who defeated Damian. Kyoya would not have gone on another training journey in this timeline before fighting Damian since Wild Fang didn't lose to Gan Gan Galaxy. We saw that Kyoya was relative with pre-training Gingka (and by extension Julian) before he came back in Hades City, and we saw how large of a gap there was between Damian and Julian.
Damian had an arrangement after world championships based on ginka's data. Kyoya is weaker than ginka. So Damian should have won against kyoya. But it was some main character shenanigans in kyoya's favour
YEa through what about jack in team star breaker they send out zeo first than jack even through zigerants knows gingka was planing for jack to handle him i don't think you have it right to replace jack with daimen in match 2 because zigurante would have let jack fight gingka if ryuga didn't intervene in round 2 so you made mis take here taking replacing damian with jack round 2 because he would play out the question if ryuga would intervene help wild fang out in this battle against jack i don't kyoka would let him after all kyoka said in the series he was against galaxy getting help from ryuga against team star breaker so he might be against ryuga helping them out in team wild fang against star breaker to this one is confusing choice what happens here @wildfang edits
I don’t think Kyoya beat Damian this time around. In the original timeline Gingka without even mastering Pegasus tied with Kyoya. Even Julian was stronger than Gingka at this point and he had to master Pegasus and create a new special move to beat Julian. This would put Gingka with Pegasus fully mastered way above kyoya. And then Damian went to give this stronger Gingka an even tougher fight and clown on Julian. Kyoya would just get power creeped here Basically what I’m saying is: Gingka (Pegasus Mastered) >> Damian >> Julian >> Gingka (Pre mastery) = Kyoya. Ik kyoya beat Damian but I always assumed that he trained after the loss to gangan galaxy to close the gap as seen when he was back in the valley of storms. Without losing against gangan galaxy, kyoya wouldn’t get to train and catch up to the power creep up to that point. You’d have to make the assumption that if kyoya were to beat Gingka in this timeline he would do so pretty easily in order to get him above Julian much less Damian.
@@jayanmazumder359 the mastered Pegasus is an awful argument. So when Kenta lost all his battles before Metal Fury was it because he didn't master seggaterio? Or when Kyoya lost to Doji in metal fusion was it because Kyoya didn't master Leone? Or is it because of the time of the fight they were just a weaker opponent? The mastery argument could be used for literally everyone in the series. How is it we only use the mastered bey argument for gingka? But if I were to say the only reason that anyone else loses is because their bey wasn't masterd I'd look crazy. The fight of Metal Masters between Kyoya and Gingka Kyoya was stronger during the battle. It's not Kyoyas's fault that he out-trained Gingka, it's his fault for not training hard enough. The mastering Pegasus rule is garbage. It's about their power levels at the exact time of the fight. During their exact battle in Metal Masters, kyoya was stronger than Gingka. No argument.
Okay, first off, Argo only beat Gingka because Gingka was not paying attention to the stadium let alone his bey. If he was, Gingka would most likely pull something like he did during the Final match against Damian in the World Championship and beat Argo that way. Other than that, Nile solos all of the Garcias. Enzo, Selen, and Ian all lose to Horuseus' Vulcan Canon and Golden Fusion Wheel techniques while Argo loses to the Golden Fusion Wheel and Mystic Zone. They deserve to get obliterated by Nile after all. Especially Argo. Vulcan Canon being a long-range attack certainly nails down Selen's strategy of running away and would result in him not using too much power and stamina. Any Cyclone Attack let alone special move from Ian gets countered by the Golden Fusion Wheel and almost any attack from Argo (ignoring Keel Strangler) gets countered by the Golden Fusion Wheel. Keel Strangler gets countered by Mystic Zone resulting in Nile soloing the Garcias. Something else worth mentioning is that Wild Fang would most likely send out Benkei first due to the Garcias sending out their sub-member Enzo. As such, they'd most likely want to test the team out first (especially with Benkei and Demure barely being able to fight in the World Championships). Here is how it would play out: Benkei gets sent out first, beats Enzo, gets tricked by Selen, and gets a stadium out. Demure is sent out next where Selen escapes but uses up Demure's stamina. Ian Cyclone Attacks Demure resulting in him getting a stadium out. Nile then cleans up Ian with the Golden Fusion Wheel and Argo with a Mystic Zone. Lastly, Nile would beat Zeo pretty handily because just like with Klaus, Zeo collapsed after defeating Masamune. In other words, Nile is beating him pretty easily just like with Klaus and Masamune.
Idk man. The Nile glazing is crazy. Ian prolly just takes out Nile due to the surprise factor of the cyclone attack. It blitzed Gingka multiple times, and so I doubt Nile would realize what the cyclone atk is by the time it hits him. Selen and Enzo’s even slight energy draining possibly thru their special move would def be enough for Ian to one shot Nile.
@@jayanmazumder359 I reiterate. The Golden Fusion Wheel that Horuseus has in his arsenal should be able to counter any and all Cyclone Attacks. Do you want to know what else sent Pegasus flying? Horuseus uppercutting Pegasus during the 2 v 2 battle in the Third Round. The Cyclone Attack that Ian uses is overhyped. In the anime, every time a Cyclone Attack takes place, Herculeo loses a great deal of attack and stamina power from it. That was one of the reasons why Pegasus took so many Cyclone Attacks in the first place. When you have a Golden Fusion Wheel standing in the way of a Cyclone Attack, it's currents for Ian.
@@jayanmazumder359That's because he is a glazer, he doesn't know what he's talking about. This guy has some sort of insanity problem with overrating Nile, I don't know the deal with that. But my guess is that the original commenter could be insane and not mentally healthy. He did afterall said once that Nile could beat Damain, or tie with him. That alone should tell you enough he doesn't know what he's talking about. Nile arguably could win against Laan, after using some of his strength to take out the sister from the Brazil team. However he will have way less than 50% of his remaining strength left, and it took Tsubasa nearly everything he had, and barely won, Nill will for sure get a KO from Argo the moment he launches his bey.
@@prabhjotdhesi4015 Glazer huh? You're the one heavily overrating the Garcias. As such, I will dissect your reply piece by piece along with debunking all of your claims made about me and your opinions regarding these topics in Beyblade in general. Have you forgotten that Enzo, Selen, and Ian were all getting packed up by Yu at the same time until Argo had to step in? That was a terrible performance shown by those three and really shows how weak they really are in battle. As such, you shouldn't be treating them like they're on the strength of Excalibur. Have you forgotten that, unlike Gingka, Nile has a technique that can be used very fast at long range distances that can easily track down and counter Selen's strategy of running away? Once she gets tagged once or multiple times, Nile isn't losing that much stamina unlike how Gingka did by endlessly trying to clash head-on with Selen. Gingka trying to clash head-on with Selen is what resulted in him losing all of that stamina. When Nile is facing off against something like that, that Vulcan Canon technique should be able to shut down that strategy and go for a K.O. that way without losing too much stamina. Even ignoring that, Gingka has an attack type bey while Nile has a defense type bey. He already has an advantage of both defense and stamina compared to Gingka (ignoring Main Character Plot Armor) so even if the running away strategy would have any effect, it wouldn't be as big compared to Gingka whose bey doesn't have that good of defense and stamina to begin with. Regarding Nile facing Ian, how would Ian get past the Golden Fusion Wheel exactly? That technique being able to easily overpower Masamune's attacks should be able to hold off any Cyclone Attack let alone any attack from Ian whether it be in the form of a Knock-Out battle or a 1v1. As we've established earlier about how Ian and the rest of his siblings (ignoring Argo) were getting packed up by Yu right before Argo stepped in, it's clear that Ian let alone Selen and Enzo are far weaker than Masamune and would all get easily knocked out by Nile Cyclone Battle or not. Adding onto this, the only reason Gingka out of all characters took such big hits against Ian in the first place was because of Selen draining a lot of stamina from Pegasus in the first place. Even so, each Cyclone Attack also greatly negatively affects Herculeo as well resulting in Herculeo losing a great deal of attack and defense. When doing a Cyclone attack against a Golden Fusion Wheel Horuseus, those attacks will get repelled and that loss in attack and defense will drastically increase for Herculeo even more so than Pegasus' battle. Regarding Tsubasa going high-diff against Argo, keep in mind that Argo is essentially an almost perfect counter to Tsubasa in particular. Ray Gil's special energy ring protects him from almost all Tsubasa's special moves (Shining Tornado Buster had to aim for Ray Gil's performance tip to K.O. him), Eagle's large fusion wheel gets overpowered due to the 100RSF performance tip delivering a vast amount of knockback in attack power from Ray Gil (which is mostly a problem with Eagle facing against attack types in general), and Argo himself is a crafty individual that can almost counter any counterplay Tsubasa had in mind. Even then, after Tsubasa wins that battle, we still see he has plenty of fight left in him even if Eagle was damaged in the battle (although that's due to Eagle attacking Ray Gil from above resulting in the jagged edges of the energy ring to badly scrape the fusion wheel). This is all-important context as to why Tsubasa had to go high diff when facing Argo. You failing to mention this shows me that you don't know why Tsubasa had to go high-diff against him and just blindly hand-waive any sort of counter-argument about why other characters would have an easier if not the exact same amount of effort having to put in against him. So with that in mind, Nile's Golden Fusion Wheel technique being able to immensely increase Horuseus' attack power should at the very minimum put Horuseus and Ray Gil on even footing in a Knock-Out battle. In a 1v1, we've seen from episode 96 of Metal Masters that Horuseus and Ray Gil have clashed evenly without Horuseus having the need to use the Golden Fusion Wheel in the first place (and because of that, it's logical to conclude that Nile would be able to overpower Argo with the Golden Fusion Wheel in that 1v1). So Nile getting sneak attacked by Argo would just result in Argo getting that same attack repelled by the Golden Fusion Wheel. Regardless of a knock-out battle or 1v1, Mystic Zone is 100% able to overpower Keel Strangler resulting in Nile not only beating Argo but also soloing the entire Garcia team. Regarding my comments about Nile beating Daminan, I will say this.....Metal Fury Nile beats Daminan. Enough said. That's an entire discussion for another time. You cannot be talking this amount of crap against me calling me "Not Mentally Healthy", claiming I have an "Insanity problem", overrating Nile, claiming "I don't know what I'm talking about", and calling me a glazer. Unlike you, I have backed up ALL of my claims with pretty sound evidence and reasoning while you have failed to even explain let alone mention basic information and important context within certain events that had happened in Metal Masters along with accurate power levels portrayed in certain characters. Nile himself literally has a toolkit that deals with almost everything that a grand majority of the cast can dish out and as such, I'm only telling it how it is regarding him being able to beat these characters whether that be easily, mid-diff, or high-diff. You're heavily overrating the Garcias and that in itself is a massive problem that needs to immediately get corrected.
@@simpgod2170 No he isn't. There isn't any implication of that at all in Metal Masters. All of Tsubasa's feats are still far less than what Nile showed in Masters.
@@supersonicstyleatsonicspeed tsubabsa beat Jack who got juiced up, after he beat klaus and lost to ryuga. Tsubabsa has better feats and Jack is stronger than niel in S2
@@simpgod2170 Nile casually overpowered the Black Excalibur with Mystic Zone on launch......That's better than anything a juiced-up Jack, Klaus, let alone Tsubasa has ever done. All of them are cooked against Nile.
Imo personally, Star Breaker defeats Wild Fang, I do not think Nile would’ve beaten Zeo, then Kyoya beats Damian in match 2 to tie it 1-1, then the finale would be Benkei VS Jack and I think we all know how that would end up, but everything else I agree on
Nah. Klaus and Zeo both passed out to beat Masamune. But Nile was literally chilling. It's clear Nile was way stronger, and Masamune didn't get any new special move so he was always at same level.
Zeo almost lost to Masamune if he didn't bring up that Toby's life is in Danger, then he would have lost to Masamune. And we saw how Nile Defeated Masamune. So Nile is easily gonna beat Zeo and then Kyoya would defeat Damian.
Interesting thoughts but I thing things would be hugely different for a couple of reasons: 1. No reason to believe Kyoya could defeat Julian. At the end of the day he couldn't beat Gingka who only had his basic star booster attack. Gingka had to get stronger and master Pegasus and create a new special move to defeat Julian. Also keep in mind Kyoya's new special move wouldn't work on Julian because his bey is left rotating so it could actually strengthen him. 2. Kyoya's whole motivation throughout the series is to beat Gingka. He never had any interest in winning the tournament by itself. So it's possible he loses motivation and stops training as hard.
Kyoya tied with Gingka because of Pegasus' raw power (and plot armor). Kyoya outplayed Gingka for the entire battle and easily stopped his special move. I think Pegasus unleashed more power during that huge blue explosion than when it used Stardust Driver. The Reverse Wind Strike's backspin effect only matters if the opponent survives the original tornado attack. Seeing as it one-shot Hades Kerbecs, I don't see Destroyer surviving it. Also, all of Kyoya's normal tornado moves would deal increased damage to Destroyer by that same logic. It's also very out of character for Kyoya to slack off after beating Gingka. Sure, beating Gingka was his main goal, but I highly doubt he would stop training this far into the tournament.
Heck no, a weaker version Damien litteraly humiliated the European team. Gingka (who mastered Pegasus at that time) had narrowly defeated Damian. While Kyoya then beat a more stronger Damien in a much more convincing way.
@@knave6257 By that time Kyoya and Gingka became a lot stronger . It's like saying Gingka from episode 21 could have beaten Damian because he did later on.
@@deesnutts2611 @deesnutts2611 When did it one shot Kerbecs? Kyoya had to use reverse wind strike to win? There's no evidence his normal tornado attacks would have more effect on Destroyer. Also by the end of the series Kyoya and Gingka became a lot stronger. . It's like saying Gingka from the beginning could have beaten Damian because he did later on. I'm not saying Kyoya couldn't beat Julian, just that it would be quite hard.
Ryuga wouldn't even know gingka is battling Damian so he can't lend gingka power plus Damian is stronger than when he battled kyoya just like in the anime he was stronger than when he battled gingka . Therefore Damian would beat gingka .
Kyoya is stronger than gingka Damian got another arrangement after losing to gingka, which made him surpass gingka's power (and gingka didnt get stronger after that fight), then kyoya beat the new damian. So he is clearly stronger
@@josemou6172 pfft Kyoya is not stronger than Gingka. Even at the time they fought, he wasn't even able to defeat a Ginka who didn't have Stardust Driver. Julian would've won had Gingka not used that special move. The Kyoya that fought Damien is stronger than the Kyoya that fought Gingka during the World championships. Likewise, so was the Gingka who fought Julian being stronger than the one who fought Kyoya.
@@Auvisome kyoya who fought damian > gingka who fought damian And gingka used his 100% to beat damian, then damian powered up to surpass that level of gingka so
Benkei and Demure winning the World Championship without battling a single time is hilarious to think about lol
Here is the thing tho, Twisted tempo used the data from Ryuga vs Jack, so in this timeline, twisted tempo would either be much much weaker as Zigarot will have to use the data from Zeo vs Ryuga. So it would either lead to 2 scenarios.
1) Hades plan fails as they were unable to gauge the full power of L drago (What they assumed would be the full power) and they end up not creating Tempo resulting in Toby dying.
2) Hades creates tempo anyway using Leone and a fraction of L drago's power, which makes the battle between Kyoya (or gingka) and masamune vs Faust a lot easier as Zeo during his fight against Ryuga was weaker than Masamune.
This video made me realize that end of metal masters Kyoya is stronger then end of metal masters Gingka.
Hear me out, during Kyoya and Damiens battle, Damien said that he used the arrangement with Gingka's battle to become even stronger. So Kyoya faced and won against a stronger Damien. But you can still say that Gingka was still stronger.
Now here is the thing, during the last episode where gingka tries to absorb the spiral force, gingka himself was confused on whether he can surpass the power he had during the final match against Damien.
So i do think end of masters kyoya maybe stronger than Gingka. But you can obviously argue against this
A good video idea would be how Kyoya battle with the rest of the legendary bladers would have gone since he beat all of them too !
1. Strongest arrangement Damian vs (Metal Fusion) base Ryuga?
2. (Metal Fusion) base Ryuga vs Kyoya?
3. Gingka vs Kyoya in Metal Masters if Gingka still had Storm Pegasus?
4. Metal Fusion base Ryuga vs the version of Kenta that damaged L-Drago Destructor?
5.) Would fully possessed Ryuga with Lightning L-Drago do better/worse against Rago?
1. Damian
2. Kyoya
3.Kyoya
4.Kenta
5.Better
@@ryuga_sanI agree except for 5th point. Ryuga possessed is worse than Masters Ryuga therefore worst than Fury Ryuga
1. Damian
2. Kyoya
3. Kyoya
4. Kenta
5. Worse
1. Daiman stomps mismatch
2. Kyoya
3. Kyoya easily.
4. Kenta wins.
5. Ryuga with meteo l drago said he's much powerful than he's ever been at that time meaning his possessed self would do worse.
Garcias lose 4 - 1, that truly is the best timeline
Nile is the best blader from Africa in season 2 which is probably why he's not too far behind the aces of most teams. Having him as a number 2 really make Wild Fang cracked.
Pretty funny that the number one in Africa is their teams number 2 while the number 2 from Japan is their teams number 1
He can take every leader from every team
@@dan-c3l No he can't, he's obviously gonna loose to Gingka. And he will most definitely give Dashain and Julian a run, especially Argo as well. But the only one there that can defeat him is Dashain. I'd say he's slightly stronger and way more skilled. And Damain too, he's gonna wreck Nile. So realistically, at least 3 out of 5 blayders from that list will win against Nile. And 2 of them are a unanimous decision
@@prabhjotdhesi4015 hell no
@@prabhjotdhesi4015 gingka >damian>nile>argo >dashan >julian >
And I’ve realised something.. if Nile beat Zeo then what happens to Toby? Cuz Zeo has promised Ziggurat to win and if he lost Toby’s treatment would be cut off.. so I’ll say Ziggurat would lie on Zeo or something and then shock him with the new look of Toby or “Faust” so even if Toby would still turn to Faust Zeo would go through a huge mental breakdown or an immense grudge against team WildFang idk a lot of ideas could have good points 😭
I could imagine Kyoya and Ryuga arguing a bit if Kyoya was the one to stop spiral force 😂
And Gingka having to be the peacemaker and get them to stop arguing "would you two cut it out!"
It really annoys me that Ryuga and Kyoya never had an encounter in metal masters.
One thing I think that you’re overlooking is Leone was in bad shape after the A block semifinals and then didn’t have a real battle until Spiral Core Damian. Similar to when Leone was injured in Metal Fusion against Yu after consecutive matches in the Survival Battle I think the writers would’ve dragged that on and it comes back to bite Kyoya against the Garcias or Damian. That is unless he gets Madoka to fix up Leone at some point which is possible but especially if you’re having him fight Ian and Argo back to back Leone is gonna need a tune up
One thing I am intrigued about is a battle between Kyoya and Ryuga post metal masters but before their beys evolved. We get to see Leone with all the special moves vs the reborn stronger version of L-drago. Moves like king lion reverse wind strike however would basically be useless since the tornado spins counter clockwise meaning it would just make ldrago spin faster.
@@smsofficial4809 Bit regular tornado moves will be twice as effective as the tornadoes spin clockwise while l Drago spins anticlockwise
@@blackoutamvs6550 yes they will like true king lion tearing blast
Nice video as always.
I agree with almost everything, except for Wildfangs vs Garcias, because I believe it would be a much riskier fight than we could think.
If the Garcias used a continuous battle against GanGan, it's because they are quite smart and they knew than most GanGan members are too naive and honest, which was their weakness in this fight.
I think they would try something different with Wild Fang since the true weakness of this team is that they only have two strong fighters. (and anyway, Kyoya would probably refuse the continuous battle, since he would have no true interest in Garcia's team). The plan could be to play all-in and send Argo directly against Nile for a first round, since they approximately have the same strength. I think everyone will say that Nile is stronger because people are biased and think he's too cool, but Argo is clearly strong, almost as strong as the strongest Tsubasa who is far better than Masamune at this point, so I think he could have a chance. If Nile wins it, then Wild Fang wins easily, but if Argo wins, then they could send Selene against Kyoya just as a sacrifice to set a third round against Benkei or Damure that Ian would win in a cyclone stadium.
So this battle would ultimately rely on Nile and Argo, which in my opinion, could go both ways.
It would be quite fun that Garcia wins it because Ziggurat wouldn't have enough data with a crappy finale to finish Tempo and it would probably delay his spirale energy for much later.
That’s actually hella interesting. But even if Argo beats Nile, wildfang prolly still takes just due to the destructive nature of Nile and kyoyas special moves which likely ends up destroying the cyclone center. And then Benkei Lowk might just take out Ian 😭
@@jayanmazumder359Benka ain't winning shit lmao. But if he gets lucky and hits any of them unexpected, well then there will be some good amount of damage dealt
@@jayanmazumder359 Yes you're right, I didn't think about that. The stadium would probably be destroyed, except if they decide to repair it between the 2nd and 3rd fight (they did it after every Tsubasa's fight, so it's likely they do it here too)
If the stadium is destroyed, I think Benkei might take it but not sure, because Ian isn't very strong but is still able to resist a bit against Gingka, as Benkei would I think so it would be close. Damure would loose for sure.
Argo is not winning against Nile. We've seen Nile clash head-on with Argo evenly in episode 96. He didn't look like he was struggling against Argo whatsoever unlike Tsubasa who admitted he couldn't clash head-on with Argo. Even so, Argo retreated shortly afterward implying he knew how big of a threat Nile was in that situation. The only reason Tsubasa was struggling against Argo is because Argo is an almost perfect counter to Tsubasa. Ray Gil's special energy ring protects him from almost all Tsubasa's special moves (Shining Tornado Buster had to aim for Ray Gil's performance tip to K.O. him), Eagle's large fusion wheel gets overpowered due to the 100RSF performance tip delivering a vast amount of knockback in attack power from Ray Gil (which is mostly a problem with Eagle facing against attack types in general), and Argo himself is a crafty individual that can almost counter any counterplay Tsubasa had in mind. Even then, after Tsubasa wins that battle, we still see he has plenty of fight left in him even if Eagle was damaged in the battle (although that's due to Eagle attacking Ray Gil from above resulting in the jagged edges of the energy ring to badly scrape the fusion wheel). This is all-important context as to why Tsubasa had to go high diff when facing Argo.
When comparing with Nile and seeing what happened in episode 96, it's safe to say that the Golden Fusion Wheel should be able to overpower most of Argo's attacks and Mystic Zone should be able to Keel Strangler. In other words, Nile should win here.
Other than that, most likely what would happen if Benkei and Demure were sent out would be similar to what happened in their match against GanGan Galaxy where they would request a Team Battle. I think they would pull through due to Demure's Eye-Sight and Analyzing coming in clutch here. Albeit, that one is more debatable truth be told.
@@prabhjotdhesi4015 benkei beats Ian if Ian doesn’t have the cyclone stadium. U can’t name one thing Ian did without that stadium.
“What if Kyoya was the main character”
Quite literally lol
Basically 😂
If he won the anime would have been better
Finally someone with bey knowledge 😭
This alternate scenario seems realistic. I would just add that Tsubasa and Yu's fight against Benkei and Demure was the catalyst for Ryuga's reintroduction. Before that, the issue with the dark power wasn't as obvious for the rest of the team. lso, I kind of agree that Gingka tends to rely too often on power surges to save him in the anime. He uses his brain more in the manga.
I love manga Gingka, he is so good. I have recently read the manga as a fan translation has recently been made
The writers really destroyed Kyoya, he outplayed Ginka many times and still couldn’t win
No writers build kyoya, in manga he even lost to masamune. Pegasus is too powerful for leone. A tie is more for kyoya
@@Mrchearty0 The manga and anime are different. In the anime, Gingka tied with Kyoya due to plot armour. Gingka having a legendary beyblade is the plot armour. Kyoya deserved to win because he worked harder than Gingka and outsmarted him to the point where he had no answer. All he did was scream and use the power of friendship.
@@emmy4537 plot armour? Are you kidding? Really? Then you shouldnt say writers destroyed kyoya because they are the ones who make kyoya stronger in anime hes weak in manga besides gingka has galaxy pegasus, can you understand this? It is the father of all pegasuses,no one could control this beyblade Except gingka, also this bey is so powerful even stronger than l drago, in manga l dragos 4 evulotion l drago has the same spintrack and performence tip as galaxy pegasus, can you understand how powerful it is? Even l drago have the same spintrack and performance tip after 3 evulation. This beyblade is perfect. It cant be defeated by a season bey like leone. It is beyond leone. Even we can say it is the god of season beys.
You cant reach this power simply by "training". This is the star fragment
It isnt plot armour gingka is the only one who can control this bey, if you're saying this is plot armour then no one should be main chacter in any serie, gingka is main character because hes the only one who can use galaxy pegasus
@@Mrchearty0 gay
@@emmy4537? Fck**** stupid Why did I write so much to you you're just fan of every cool guy in every anime
If he won I feel like hed be like when thanos won and just settle somewhere until gingka catches up lol
Nile vs Klaus would be really close since Klaus fought a stronger and more competent Masamune. I doubt anyone in WF would end up getting ambushed by the Garcias like Yu did, and whether it's elimination or standard 1v1s, Nile and Kyoya take the W. Don't know if it would change much, but in the finals, there'd me no drama or storyline between Masamune and Zeo, or it would at least play out differently once Masamue recognises Zeo on screen. As for whether it's Zeo or Jack Nile faces, it's actually close either way since Magnetic Needle Storm was massive and covered the whole area, and Jack decently strong and destroyed Klaus. I also don't see how Ziggurat would get Ryuga's data is he doesn't need to be a replacement member, or if Damian would attack the team at all.
11:11-This also has a problem tho.
Team Wild Fang already has a win with Nile,so if Ryuga shows up for the 2nd round with Jack,Wild Fang would win 2-0 and Kyoya vs Damian wouldn't happen,but if Kyoya would go 2nd, Ryuga vs Jack wouldn't happen.
Either way,Ziggurat would lack the data for 1 bey.At best he could use the data from Kyoya's past matches or use Damian's data for Tempo,but the result would be weaker anyway.
Video suggestions; ) What if Gingka got Galaxy Pegasus in metal fusion and Tsubasa was the legendary Beyblader instead of Ryuga
What if Ryo did not fake his death in Beyblade
The ryuga meat riding is insane
It’s about Gingka’s dad not ryuga💀
@@tariqthehedgehog mb
@@anonymous.468 the dyslexia is insane
Then Gingka wouldn't have a better Character development because Pheonix was the one who pushed him Further to not give up.
The amount of kids in the comments here thinking Kyoya loses to Lulian is too funny 😂
Just because Kyoya tied with Gingka doesn't mean Kyoya loses to Julian. Kyoya in Masters always follows with every Gingka power boost. If Gingka could beat Lulian by Episode 29, Kyoya would have done the same.
Seriously stop glazing Lyuga and Lingka and all these plot armor jabronis and pay attention to the show 😂
Gingka learnt a whole new special move and had to master Pegasus in order to beat Julian while kyoya went back to the valley of the storms to train some more. Without kyoya going back to the valley he’d still be at below Julians level. U cant just say “Kyoya automatically has the same power level as gingka throughout the show no matter what time period” thats just stupid wtf… and stop using L in every characters name that shit is cringy asf
@@jayanmazumder359 kyoya does follow gingka level in masters only
amazing channel keep going please👍👍
This Butterfly effect is crazy
Video idea: a similar one to the previous Masamune one, but this time make it about Gingka and plot armour
The fight between the Garcia siblings and WildFang is interesting cuz of the knockout battle, I wish we could have more knockout battles somehow cuz it’s fun xdd
But I wanna say I don’t think Nile and Kyoya will take the battle on their own, either Benkei or Demure would have to battle because we know the Garcia wouldn’t stop at just these tricks and they would do something similar to what happened to Yu, I can see the poor boy Nile being targeted here, they know Nile and Kyoya are the strongest in the team so they would try to damage Horuseus
I know Kyoya still take care of business here but yk 😭
The Garcias are all completely cooked against Nile. We've seen from episode 96 that Nile clashed evenly with Argo and that he's able to overpower the Black Excalibur pretty easily. Argo is completely getting slammed by Nile and rightfully so.
That is a pretty interesting idea, however it neglects the fact that the wbba and Rio by extension only know about the dark power possessing Tsubasa of the third round Tag Team battle, so no Benkai and Demorai vs Tsubasa and Yu, no Ryuga vs Tsubasa II, Personally, I would have written it away That masamune and Niall ended up in the tie and it was a fluke tie that masamune recognizes as such at that thus whenever Kyoya and Ginga decide to be stubborn when it should have been Niall and Demaree vs masamune and yu, masamune's line of "there's no way I can beat Niall straight up in a one-on-one" still makes sense
The only thing is that if Masamune and Nile tied, followed by Gingka and Kyoya's tie, GanGan Galaxy would've won the entire set with the Tag Battle in the third round. Keep in mind: it's _best of three,_ not _first to two._ Those are not the same thing.
The reason the fourth battle even happened in the anime is because after three battles, the two teams were tied with one win each.
@@DancingFoxfire No i'm talking in this video's universe, where Kyoya beat Ginga in every aspect of the battle except for plot armor so in this videos universe instead of the actual Thai being between the two big rivals
What if Nile and Masamune had a draw and Kyoya had won against Gingka. Basically the opposite.
I personally would prefer this more.
If Gingka would’ve fully mastered the control over Galaxy Pegasus when battling Kyoya then he would’ve beat Kyoya no doubt
I.e. if Gingka had Stardust Driver in the battle, he would've won
This is such an awful excuse that every beyblade fan says. 😭
the mastered Pegasus is an awful argument. So when Kenta lost all his battles before Metal Fury was it because he didn't master seggaterio? Or when Kyoya lost to Doji in metal fusion was it because Kyoya didn't master Leone? Or is it because of the time of the fight they were just a weaker opponent? The mastery argument could be used for literally everyone in the series. How is it we only use the mastered bey argument for gingka? But if I were to say the only reason that anyone else loses is because their bey wasn't masterd I'd look crazy. The fight of Metal Masters between Kyoya and Gingka Kyoya was stronger during the battle. It's not Kyoyas's fault that he out-trained Gingka, it's his fault for not training hard enough. The mastering Pegasus rule is garbage. It's about their power levels at the exact time of the fight. During their exact battle in Metal Masters, kyoya was stronger than Gingka. No argument.
@@SeyeAwonuga You gotta learn how to read little bro. He said when he mastered Galaxy Pegasus. And Gingka did get a bit stronger later in metal masters. And I somewhat agree with him. If Gingka mastered his bey, and was able to pull out Star Dust Driver, I'm confident there's nothing Ryuga or Kyoya could do to go up and match that power, maybe they can. But I think if they do, they would loose. Tho it will be close.
@@prabhjotdhesi4015The true lion Gail force wall is 158 percent more powerful than his old hail force wall. I doubt gingka is breaking that
For years I believed that the Wild Fang team was stronger than GanGan Galaxy. First, unlike GanGan Galaxy, Wild Fang have ALWAYS won their matches with two wins in a row. And secondly, Kyoya and Nile are smarter in battle than Gingka and Masamune and are not dupes like them. In short, I think that the creators may have known that Wild Fang are stronger than GanGan Galaxy, but they decided to take pity on the Japanese team, probably because Masamune is the protagonist and face of the Metal Masters season.
Now... I'm curious how you would see the Metal Masters season go if Kyoya joined the GanGan Galaxy team... 😁😉
The problem with wild fang is that while Nile is stronger then either tsubasa or Masamune, Benkei and Demure are way weaker than the other teams number 3 and 4. Demure is more like a analyst than a fighter, and let's be real, Benkei wasn't really strong after metal fusion
What if Ryuga battled Damian and Gingka battled Jack
The result would be the same. Expect that Gingka doesn't need to try as much, and Ryuga can't just relay on plot amour to win. He would actually need to battle
They'd still win
What if storm Pegasus return in metal masters
He'd cry and leave after seeing gingka cheating him with galaxy pegasis in his absence
I want to see if Kyoya was the main character
If kyoya wins in final battle against damian and it was being 2nd round .... How could zigarat collects l dragos data ...because then there is no rauga and jack battle.....so twisted tempo would be on created on leon and destroyers data and wont be so strong
He collected l drago data from ryogas battle vs zeo
I disagree with kyoya vs Julian mainly because kyoya in this timeline scrapes by an under powered gingka, who would’ve never beaten Julien if it weren’t for ryuga, gingka would lost quickly(eyes of Medusa), kyoya could maybe potentially break out of the eyes of Medusa for pure will but at this stage he isn’t beating black Excalibur, I think since Sophie and wales always battle second, and kyoya always battle second, he would take benkai or demure and just basically 1v2 and beat them and that’s how Wildfang wins, just my opinion tho, nice vid
Fair point it could easily play out that way
IDK. It's shown multiple times that Kyoya does not lack in training. I wouldn't doubt Kyoya being stronger than Julian. At the end of the season Kyoya beats Damien that has undergone an arrangement from his battle against Gingka and theoretically should be stronger than Gingka.
Regarding counters to Destroyer. 100 Fang Fury would work since Leon would have to move and could just create the tornado to attack Julian with debris. He can also lift Leon up using True Lion Gale Force Wall like he did against Gingka. Kyoya is probably the most versatile Blader in the entire series
I disagree with you because mastering Pegasus doesn't mean he couldn't have beaten Julian before. Sure the Starbooster attack doesn't work but it didn't work on Kyoya neither. He beat Kyoya with the raw unleashed power of Galaxy Pegasus and exerted himself so heavily that he collapsed. Sure Pegasus goes on to be stronger but Gingka drew out the most power from his bey against Kyoya (barring the finale against the spiral force).
Plus styles make fights so just because Ep21 Gingka ties with Kyoya doesn't mean Kyoya would lose to Julian.
@@extraterrestrialhorse9722 I thinking during the fight against Julien , there is a moment where the star booster attack has been completely beaten , previously it’s just been halted and countered but Julien straight up beat it, and gingka mentioned he was a truly strong opponent , without ryugas advice , he wouldn’t have created a special move to defeat him, at this point of the story, Julien was to strong of an opponent for normal means.
@@tikitakaboyz5050 true but remember that at this point , the gravity helmet would negate any debris as we seen Julien being sent into a building without any damage, I completely agree at the end of the story, kyoya is the stronger balder no doubt, but at this point , I disagree
If Gingka had stardust driver when battling Kyoya he would have won without a doubt
no, he wouldn't.
He would but its kinda like saying if gingka had Galaxy nova when he fought Ryuga the first time. He would win. LIke yes ofc he would win, but gingka still hadnt unlocked that power yet.
Ok here is what happens
Team Wild Fang vs Excallibur
Damure and Benkei vs Sophie and Wales - Excallibur wins, though Damure is strategic and Benkei is mere raw force, Cetus are just stronger in general + Grand Decalion flushes them away with an ease.
Nile vs Claus- Honestly tough choice, but I would give it to Claus, but it would be more insane than Masamune , Nile is calm and can counter in late state, meanwhile Claus can surpass his limit to deliver a final finishing blow, which is the upper hand
Kyoya vs Julian-Kyoya would be in difficulty, but wins, sadly the Excallibur still wins the war regardless. Kyoya will win this one, he is training like insane, he is also the rival of Gingka, mops floors with everyone on the ring, his special moves are brutal, Julian wouldn't do a lot, except to stall and cause troubles, Black Excallibur wouldn't really deal with tornadoes all around, Eyes of Medusa will petrify Leone just for a while until king lion awakens to break through and continue to fight.
2-1 for Excallibur
Wild Fang vs Team Garcia (with the same rules and non-stop battle until the victory)
Damure vs Enzo- Damure whoops that clown who's just troll and no skills, Damure is also strategist, calm and intelligent. Selene interferes to finish him off, knowing Damure wouldn't be too aware what to do, even if would it mean for him to prepare next defense, So far 1-1. Next up Benkei interferes, causing Selene to panic after the Bu-Bu-BULL to avenge fallen comrade and depends, if Red Horn Uppercut is used right away Selene gets destroyed without a chance to run, otherwise she will exhaust Benkei like Gingka. The troll tactics with run and etc will take up an effect, however not being enough to win against Benkei, she will retreat, but no matter in both cases she is toast so 2-1 for WF, then Ian interferes and wipes Benkei right away with a powerful launch. Kyoya will be pissed a lot about that, but Nile calmly enters and begins to fight him, but he will beware of the stadium and Garcia by spectating them earlier closely. Both are pretty stubborn bladers, Ian isn't that much of a cheat, but he is insane when hits with Cyclone Attack, meanwhile the immovable object Horuseus will struggle or become golden as against Striker and make Ian ultra mad, in both cases Nile won't lose until the final special moves are used. Have in mind a Cyclone Attack tears down Herculeo's spin by 10%, so Horuseus has a high chance to win it. Yet, I think here's a tie or Nile wins it, most likely a tie, because Ian isn't Masamune and he is much more durable. 3-2 for Wild Fang, which means final chance for Garcia to tie and survive, then Kyoya and Argo enter. An arrogant big bro against an insane leader with a very powerful fighting spirit to clash. Knowing Kyoya and Argo, there's no chance for Garcia, Metal Masters Kyoya is no more defense, he will strike Ray Gil with full power to let Argo he is done for, Leone won't be scratched like what Tsubassa had on Eagle either, Argo will still try using the stadium and that special move to tear him apart, then Kyoya smirks at him mocking his skills and ending it without efforts with Reverse Wind Strike, perhaps also nearly ripping his Ray Gil to assert dominance so WF wins 4-2.
Wild Fang vs Team Star Breaker
Zeo vs Damure- Zeo wins hands down, Destiny's Needle will rip apart Damure very fast and then game over, no chance avoiding it with such a difference in powers.
Jack would probably want a tag to save Damian's efforts, perhaps would like to face Nile and Benkei 2 on 1- Battle starts, a shielding Horuseus and powerhouse Dark Bull attacking Befall like freak. Jack's bey has infinite stamina, therefore Jack just mocks them both, Nile attempts to study Jack by trying to use Horuseus's signature move, which also won't work leaving him surprised really badly, meanwhile Jack will start trolling with the art stuff speech and counterattack, yet being blocked by both Bull and Horuseus sending him blown into the stadium, causing them to think Befall will stop spinning by locking it trapped, Jack panics and then taunts them by having Befall to cut the walls shocking everyone and pissing Kyoya again to order his teammates to finish Jack already. Then Jack grins using Befall the Ripper, which will definitely ends Dark Bull after running for a while, Nile will turn his bey golden to survive, but it won't really help him for a lot, Befall will slam into it being pushed several times until Nile is shocked after realizing his bey is damaged and shakes losing spin power. Nile will attempt to fight until win, until waits the right time for Mystic Zone, then Jack uses Beautiful Death, field turns into giant explosion, Jack freaks out, Nile gets super sayan and both clash until the end, but Befall just blows him out (Jack has arrangement), all people are shocked while Jack laughs on the end and Nile falls down humiliated which will make Kyoya furious for what Jack has done and just enters the ring to battle Jack, annihilating him with King Lion Tearing Blast to send Befall out of the stadium which will enrage Kyoya with a quick win. (I didn't add Ryuga here, Kyoya is too proud and wouldn't let anyone do his on battles)
And finally Damian vs Kyoya- Same thing as their last battle, Kyoya will have troubles, but still act the same, same for Damian, perhaps a bit different tactics this time, but still Kyoya wins, however Star Breaker takes the cake, Jack did the kicker, Zeo owned Damure, and Kyoya is not enough on his own.
Wild Fang are very strong no doubt, but they won't make it to the finals, if Kyoya solos, then probably will do it to the finals. And here we go again, Kyoya was right when he said that he didn't need anyone else, he is strong alone.
Poor guy wrote all of this down with so much effort, but no one's gonna read it.😞
@@surgeonsergio6839At least I tried
@@surgeonsergio6839 I read it all it's a great analysis.
@@liamstanley2325 Congrats, You've probably made this guy's day.
@@surgeonsergio6839 Thanks my man😁
Wildfang gets blown to bits by Starbreaker GG
Nile beats zeo or jack and kyoya beats Damian
@jonathanwynn4454 Damian destroys kyoya and Jack and zeo destroy benkei and nile
@@jonathanwynn4454 Shut up
They not even getting past Julian's team lol gravity destroyer is stronger than Leon lol
@@jonathanwynn4454 no way Nile beats Jack, he wipes zeo but Jack is debatable
Nile might not always be the first blader to battle, they might switch their orders
Make a video on what if Damian beat Gingka
What if dojie didn't switch up the second round match ups in the battle bladers tournament?
Could Kyoya beat that Ryuga? I think he has a solid shot but it depends on whether Ryuga gets taken over by the dark power like he did during the semi finals.
In these second round Battle Bladers matches, I think Gingka still beats Reiji and Kyoya loses to Ryuga. As for the Benkei vs. Kenta and Tsubasa vs. Ryutaro - I think Tsubasa would beat Ryutaro, but in the latter fight I would lean more towards Kenta as he is very keen on fighting Gingka in the finals, while Benkei would be thinking more about facing Kyoya at the same stage of the tournament. So Kenta's determination strengthens his Blader Spirit a bit, which allows him to defeat Benkei.
And now in this little alternate timeline the following semifinal fights should be: Kenta vs. Tsubasa and Gingka vs. Ryuga. But Doji realizes that Ryuga should not fight Gingka before the final, so he shuffles the fight card here as well. However, no matter who Gingka and Ryuga fight at this stage, they both win their fights and advance to the finals, so even this small change in the course of the Battle Bladers does not affect its ending. Uniquely, Tsubasa in this timeline might not have been tainted by the dark power if he had faced Gingka in the semi-finals. Kenta, on the other hand, would suffer even more in the fight against Ryuga than he did against Reiji in the original timeline.
I feel like it would be tsubasa vs ryuga and Kenta vs gingka in the semi finals tbh
@@Nameer401 That's right. 🙂
While rewatching some episodes of Metal Masters, I noticed a scene with Yu and Tsubasa in the hospital after Damian had messed them up. There was a video chat with Ryo and where they discussed getting a third replacement member. They also mentioned that they could suspend Team Starbreaker from the tournament for what they did, but Gingka refused-first because of the Blader's "heart-to-heart" nonsense, and second, for plot reasons.
Later it cuts to Excalibur training harder for their battle. This got me thinking: what if they did suspend Team Starbreaker? Wouldn't that mean Excalibur would automatically move into the finals and face Masamune and Gingka in this scenario? So, it raises the question: could this post-training Excalibur beat Masamune and Gingka? Could make a good video. 👀
very much no.. if we follow strength used in anime in finals gingka alone could take all 3 of them and easily win. even if gingka has to battle twice he would easily win.
@@strahinjaradosavljevic5729 Well, I bet Masamune is gonna lose to Klaus in the first round as usual. For the 2 if it’s a team battle. Gingka and an already fatigued Masamune battles. But if Gingka takes both of them on which is possible he’s gonna be fatigued for his rematch with Julian and Masamuna is completely fatigued at this point and in this point in time in our story, Gingka hasn’t had his power up while battling Damian. And Julian is much stronger this time so Maybe Julian could pull out a win just barely tho or I’m wrong and Gingka wins as usual🤷🏼♂️
Gingka defeated Damian who legit 3V1ed the team Excalibur would have 0 chance this time back around
@@peterzindros9238 Again. Gingka was only able to win against Damian. Cause According to Kyoya he borrowed Ryuga Strength. And 2 he wouldn't have gotten the power-ups from battling Damian in this scenario. So at this current time. He is still just the same Blader who defeated Julian in Italy and like I mentioned before Klaus could Probably beat Masamuna. Again for the first round in the second round, it’s a team battle with Sofia and whales. Against Gingka and an already tired Masamune who’s not gonna be much help. Gingka is gonna have to dig deep to beat them both since they are stronger too. And for the third match. A fatigued Gingka might have to face Julian. Who is much stronger than their last fight It’s possible but as in classic BeyBlade fashion, the plot would decide.
@@kraemerrseviltwin5768 gingka literally was going toe to toe with damian who destroyed excalibur alone.. and he even said that he wasnt using his full power either.. that was enough to excalibur to lose so.. gingka would still won 2 battles in a row against excalibur if that was necessary.
My 3rd favorite goat saves the world yes 😊
In this scenario Nile wouldn’t fall for that trick , like that girl did to masamune
Do another beyblade burst video
While the Garcia's battle is, interesting? The agreement of the survival battle while in character Kyoya would agree but Nike would pick up it's a trap and call it out
Then the Star Breakers battle, depends if the Ryuga bit stick around because if yes, then Damian vs Kyoya doesn't happen at least not until later down the line. The point of the "worlds strongest right" loses steam because Jack vs Ryuga is too important to drop off so it'd end after Ryuga vs Jack
Yeah but i feel like Kyoya might be just decide to go for it anyway and change their order of battling since the reason wild fang goes nile first and kyoya second is to get the win quickly and efficiently. However during the Garcia battle, Nile might convince Kyoya to send out benkei first who i am sure is stronger then Enzo and will be able to weaken Salen.
Then nile just destroys Salen and Ian before kyoya one shots Argo
@@blackoutamvs6550while that's true, Nile is the one who coordinated 2v2 match so Nile has a keen ability to read the power scaling.
Only difference would be Benkai and Demure doing a 2v2 Selen and Enzo which as we seen. Benkei can solo both of them
I think it would be Nile vs Jack...
By looking at the strength of Nile, he could have sent Jack instead of Zeo... Just like they did against X calebor....
Not sure but it would be nice to see Jack vs anile instead of Zeo vs Nile....
My POV 😊
@@manichand310 Vulcan cannon vs Befall the ripper would go hard
Damian destroying kyoya in the manga was brilliant. Wish we got to see that in the anime to😂
What if Ryuga destroyed Storm Pegasus during their first battle and Gingka found Galaxy Pegasus in metal fusion?
I honestly can’t see Wild Fang destroying Team Starbreaker aka the final bosses in a sweep. What if it was Jack vs Nile first matchup? There’s no way Nile wins that one. Also we know Benkei and Demure ain’t beating nobody. Kyoya HEAVILY carries this team
would dr.ziggurat have enough data on L-drago to make tempo without the Jack Vs Ryuga match because remember Ryuga Broke out of hade's city almost immediately. so would he have enough data on L-Drago.
I think he would just use the data of gravity destroyer as planned in the Starbreaker vs Xcalibur matchup. I doubt ziggurats whole plan was dependent on ryuga pulling up, cus there’s no way he could have predicted that. I’d assume his original plan was to use the data of destroyer and Pegasus.
Do a part 2 please
What where Kyoya throws out like 4 special moves and still ties with Gingka Lmfao
Main character plot armor sht
This is glazing Kyoya by assuming he automatically wins against Julian. You said "we already went over this" but never really went over how Kyoya would win this fight. Kyoya tied with Gingka before Gingka trained with Ryuga, and it took that power boost for Gingka to overcome Julian. What did Kyoya do to match that power jump at that point in the series to overcome Julian too? Julian was the strongest blader we saw at that point outside of Ryuga before Gingka had his large powerup
Same thing could be said about the Damian fight too. You said that Kyoya defeated a stronger version of Damian, but that was also a stronger version of Kyoya who defeated Damian. Kyoya would not have gone on another training journey in this timeline before fighting Damian since Wild Fang didn't lose to Gan Gan Galaxy. We saw that Kyoya was relative with pre-training Gingka (and by extension Julian) before he came back in Hades City, and we saw how large of a gap there was between Damian and Julian.
Damian had an arrangement after world championships based on ginka's data. Kyoya is weaker than ginka. So Damian should have won against kyoya. But it was some main character shenanigans in kyoya's favour
@@TheBatman667 Kyoya didn’t need the power of friendship.
@emmy4537 There are differently types of plot armour even in anime. I know that's hard to believe but it is true little girl
@@TheBatman667Kyoya wasn't weaker than Gingka lol. Batman would dismiss you.
I don't see how zeo can go toe with toe with nile ,ones the eyes of horus opend he gonna do him like he did masamune in thair fight
What if damian beat ginga in the finals? How would that change the rest of the series lol
How would Ziggurat get LDrago's data if he didn’t participate in the world championships?
zeo vs ryuga battle
@@SeyeAwonuga barely got any data from that.
🎉
I would have farted
Japan already is at home
YEa through what about jack in team star breaker they send out zeo first than jack even through zigerants knows gingka was planing for jack to handle him i don't think you have it right to replace jack with daimen in match 2 because zigurante would have let jack fight gingka if ryuga didn't intervene in round 2 so you made mis take here taking replacing damian with jack round 2 because he would play out the question if ryuga would intervene help wild fang out in this battle against jack i don't kyoka would let him after all kyoka said in the series he was against galaxy getting help from ryuga against team star breaker so he might be against ryuga helping them out in team wild fang against star breaker to this one is confusing choice what happens here @wildfang edits
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I don’t think Kyoya beat Damian this time around. In the original timeline Gingka without even mastering Pegasus tied with Kyoya. Even Julian was stronger than Gingka at this point and he had to master Pegasus and create a new special move to beat Julian. This would put Gingka with Pegasus fully mastered way above kyoya. And then Damian went to give this stronger Gingka an even tougher fight and clown on Julian. Kyoya would just get power creeped here
Basically what I’m saying is:
Gingka (Pegasus Mastered) >> Damian >> Julian >> Gingka (Pre mastery) = Kyoya.
Ik kyoya beat Damian but I always assumed that he trained after the loss to gangan galaxy to close the gap as seen when he was back in the valley of storms. Without losing against gangan galaxy, kyoya wouldn’t get to train and catch up to the power creep up to that point. You’d have to make the assumption that if kyoya were to beat Gingka in this timeline he would do so pretty easily in order to get him above Julian much less Damian.
The mastering pegasus is an awful excuse.
@@SeyeAwonuga awful excuse? Nigga did u watch the show it’s bar for bar what happened 😭
@@jayanmazumder359 the mastered Pegasus is an awful argument. So when Kenta lost all his battles before Metal Fury was it because he didn't master seggaterio? Or when Kyoya lost to Doji in metal fusion was it because Kyoya didn't master Leone? Or is it because of the time of the fight they were just a weaker opponent? The mastery argument could be used for literally everyone in the series. How is it we only use the mastered bey argument for gingka? But if I were to say the only reason that anyone else loses is because their bey wasn't masterd I'd look crazy. The fight of Metal Masters between Kyoya and Gingka Kyoya was stronger during the battle. It's not Kyoyas's fault that he out-trained Gingka, it's his fault for not training hard enough. The mastering Pegasus rule is garbage. It's about their power levels at the exact time of the fight. During their exact battle in Metal Masters, kyoya was stronger than Gingka. No argument.
Okay, first off, Argo only beat Gingka because Gingka was not paying attention to the stadium let alone his bey. If he was, Gingka would most likely pull something like he did during the Final match against Damian in the World Championship and beat Argo that way. Other than that, Nile solos all of the Garcias. Enzo, Selen, and Ian all lose to Horuseus' Vulcan Canon and Golden Fusion Wheel techniques while Argo loses to the Golden Fusion Wheel and Mystic Zone. They deserve to get obliterated by Nile after all. Especially Argo. Vulcan Canon being a long-range attack certainly nails down Selen's strategy of running away and would result in him not using too much power and stamina. Any Cyclone Attack let alone special move from Ian gets countered by the Golden Fusion Wheel and almost any attack from Argo (ignoring Keel Strangler) gets countered by the Golden Fusion Wheel. Keel Strangler gets countered by Mystic Zone resulting in Nile soloing the Garcias. Something else worth mentioning is that Wild Fang would most likely send out Benkei first due to the Garcias sending out their sub-member Enzo. As such, they'd most likely want to test the team out first (especially with Benkei and Demure barely being able to fight in the World Championships).
Here is how it would play out: Benkei gets sent out first, beats Enzo, gets tricked by Selen, and gets a stadium out. Demure is sent out next where Selen escapes but uses up Demure's stamina. Ian Cyclone Attacks Demure resulting in him getting a stadium out. Nile then cleans up Ian with the Golden Fusion Wheel and Argo with a Mystic Zone.
Lastly, Nile would beat Zeo pretty handily because just like with Klaus, Zeo collapsed after defeating Masamune. In other words, Nile is beating him pretty easily just like with Klaus and Masamune.
Idk man. The Nile glazing is crazy. Ian prolly just takes out Nile due to the surprise factor of the cyclone attack. It blitzed Gingka multiple times, and so I doubt Nile would realize what the cyclone atk is by the time it hits him. Selen and Enzo’s even slight energy draining possibly thru their special move would def be enough for Ian to one shot Nile.
@@jayanmazumder359 I reiterate. The Golden Fusion Wheel that Horuseus has in his arsenal should be able to counter any and all Cyclone Attacks. Do you want to know what else sent Pegasus flying? Horuseus uppercutting Pegasus during the 2 v 2 battle in the Third Round. The Cyclone Attack that Ian uses is overhyped. In the anime, every time a Cyclone Attack takes place, Herculeo loses a great deal of attack and stamina power from it. That was one of the reasons why Pegasus took so many Cyclone Attacks in the first place. When you have a Golden Fusion Wheel standing in the way of a Cyclone Attack, it's currents for Ian.
@@jayanmazumder359That's because he is a glazer, he doesn't know what he's talking about. This guy has some sort of insanity problem with overrating Nile, I don't know the deal with that. But my guess is that the original commenter could be insane and not mentally healthy. He did afterall said once that Nile could beat Damain, or tie with him. That alone should tell you enough he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Nile arguably could win against Laan, after using some of his strength to take out the sister from the Brazil team. However he will have way less than 50% of his remaining strength left, and it took Tsubasa nearly everything he had, and barely won, Nill will for sure get a KO from Argo the moment he launches his bey.
@@prabhjotdhesi4015 Glazer huh? You're the one heavily overrating the Garcias. As such, I will dissect your reply piece by piece along with debunking all of your claims made about me and your opinions regarding these topics in Beyblade in general.
Have you forgotten that Enzo, Selen, and Ian were all getting packed up by Yu at the same time until Argo had to step in?
That was a terrible performance shown by those three and really shows how weak they really are in battle. As such, you shouldn't be treating them like they're on the strength of Excalibur.
Have you forgotten that, unlike Gingka, Nile has a technique that can be used very fast at long range distances that can easily track down and counter Selen's strategy of running away?
Once she gets tagged once or multiple times, Nile isn't losing that much stamina unlike how Gingka did by endlessly trying to clash head-on with Selen. Gingka trying to clash head-on with Selen is what resulted in him losing all of that stamina. When Nile is facing off against something like that, that Vulcan Canon technique should be able to shut down that strategy and go for a K.O. that way without losing too much stamina. Even ignoring that, Gingka has an attack type bey while Nile has a defense type bey. He already has an advantage of both defense and stamina compared to Gingka (ignoring Main Character Plot Armor) so even if the running away strategy would have any effect, it wouldn't be as big compared to Gingka whose bey doesn't have that good of defense and stamina to begin with.
Regarding Nile facing Ian, how would Ian get past the Golden Fusion Wheel exactly?
That technique being able to easily overpower Masamune's attacks should be able to hold off any Cyclone Attack let alone any attack from Ian whether it be in the form of a Knock-Out battle or a 1v1. As we've established earlier about how Ian and the rest of his siblings (ignoring Argo) were getting packed up by Yu right before Argo stepped in, it's clear that Ian let alone Selen and Enzo are far weaker than Masamune and would all get easily knocked out by Nile Cyclone Battle or not. Adding onto this, the only reason Gingka out of all characters took such big hits against Ian in the first place was because of Selen draining a lot of stamina from Pegasus in the first place. Even so, each Cyclone Attack also greatly negatively affects Herculeo as well resulting in Herculeo losing a great deal of attack and defense. When doing a Cyclone attack against a Golden Fusion Wheel Horuseus, those attacks will get repelled and that loss in attack and defense will drastically increase for Herculeo even more so than Pegasus' battle.
Regarding Tsubasa going high-diff against Argo, keep in mind that Argo is essentially an almost perfect counter to Tsubasa in particular. Ray Gil's special energy ring protects him from almost all Tsubasa's special moves (Shining Tornado Buster had to aim for Ray Gil's performance tip to K.O. him), Eagle's large fusion wheel gets overpowered due to the 100RSF performance tip delivering a vast amount of knockback in attack power from Ray Gil (which is mostly a problem with Eagle facing against attack types in general), and Argo himself is a crafty individual that can almost counter any counterplay Tsubasa had in mind. Even then, after Tsubasa wins that battle, we still see he has plenty of fight left in him even if Eagle was damaged in the battle (although that's due to Eagle attacking Ray Gil from above resulting in the jagged edges of the energy ring to badly scrape the fusion wheel). This is all-important context as to why Tsubasa had to go high diff when facing Argo. You failing to mention this shows me that you don't know why Tsubasa had to go high-diff against him and just blindly hand-waive any sort of counter-argument about why other characters would have an easier if not the exact same amount of effort having to put in against him.
So with that in mind, Nile's Golden Fusion Wheel technique being able to immensely increase Horuseus' attack power should at the very minimum put Horuseus and Ray Gil on even footing in a Knock-Out battle. In a 1v1, we've seen from episode 96 of Metal Masters that Horuseus and Ray Gil have clashed evenly without Horuseus having the need to use the Golden Fusion Wheel in the first place (and because of that, it's logical to conclude that Nile would be able to overpower Argo with the Golden Fusion Wheel in that 1v1). So Nile getting sneak attacked by Argo would just result in Argo getting that same attack repelled by the Golden Fusion Wheel. Regardless of a knock-out battle or 1v1, Mystic Zone is 100% able to overpower Keel Strangler resulting in Nile not only beating Argo but also soloing the entire Garcia team.
Regarding my comments about Nile beating Daminan, I will say this.....Metal Fury Nile beats Daminan. Enough said. That's an entire discussion for another time.
You cannot be talking this amount of crap against me calling me "Not Mentally Healthy", claiming I have an "Insanity problem", overrating Nile, claiming "I don't know what I'm talking about", and calling me a glazer. Unlike you, I have backed up ALL of my claims with pretty sound evidence and reasoning while you have failed to even explain let alone mention basic information and important context within certain events that had happened in Metal Masters along with accurate power levels portrayed in certain characters. Nile himself literally has a toolkit that deals with almost everything that a grand majority of the cast can dish out and as such, I'm only telling it how it is regarding him being able to beat these characters whether that be easily, mid-diff, or high-diff. You're heavily overrating the Garcias and that in itself is a massive problem that needs to immediately get corrected.
@@supersonicstyleatsonicspeed omg i'm a Nile glazer too but bro touch grass what kind of essay is this 😭😭😭
What if niel fought Jack instead of zeoy?
Even tsubasa won jack. Nile is alot better than tsubasa. Jack would be easy for nile.
@@unsub3204 tsubabsa is stronger than nile
@@simpgod2170 No he isn't. There isn't any implication of that at all in Metal Masters. All of Tsubasa's feats are still far less than what Nile showed in Masters.
@@supersonicstyleatsonicspeed tsubabsa beat Jack who got juiced up, after he beat klaus and lost to ryuga. Tsubabsa has better feats and Jack is stronger than niel in S2
@@simpgod2170 Nile casually overpowered the Black Excalibur with Mystic Zone on launch......That's better than anything a juiced-up Jack, Klaus, let alone Tsubasa has ever done. All of them are cooked against Nile.
Imo personally, Star Breaker defeats Wild Fang, I do not think Nile would’ve beaten Zeo, then Kyoya beats Damian in match 2 to tie it 1-1, then the finale would be Benkei VS Jack and I think we all know how that would end up, but everything else I agree on
Nah. Klaus and Zeo both passed out to beat Masamune. But Nile was literally chilling. It's clear Nile was way stronger, and Masamune didn't get any new special move so he was always at same level.
Nile would beat Jack
Zeo almost lost to Masamune if he didn't bring up that Toby's life is in Danger, then he would have lost to Masamune. And we saw how Nile Defeated Masamune. So Nile is easily gonna beat Zeo and then Kyoya would defeat Damian.
@@Lucy_595 Zeo and kluas used more power. Cause they go through arrangement/training more than nile. Nile is weaker than both of them
@@Ibitmytongue69420 zeo is stronger than masamune. Damian can also thrash kyoya as well. Masamune is just a fraud
Interesting thoughts but I thing things would be hugely different for a couple of reasons:
1. No reason to believe Kyoya could defeat Julian. At the end of the day he couldn't beat Gingka who only had his basic star booster attack. Gingka had to get stronger and master Pegasus and create a new special move to defeat Julian. Also keep in mind Kyoya's new special move wouldn't work on Julian because his bey is left rotating so it could actually strengthen him.
2. Kyoya's whole motivation throughout the series is to beat Gingka. He never had any interest in winning the tournament by itself. So it's possible he loses motivation and stops training as hard.
Kyoya later beats a stronger Damian than the one that 3v1d the Europe team
Kyoya tied with Gingka because of Pegasus' raw power (and plot armor). Kyoya outplayed Gingka for the entire battle and easily stopped his special move. I think Pegasus unleashed more power during that huge blue explosion than when it used Stardust Driver.
The Reverse Wind Strike's backspin effect only matters if the opponent survives the original tornado attack. Seeing as it one-shot Hades Kerbecs, I don't see Destroyer surviving it. Also, all of Kyoya's normal tornado moves would deal increased damage to Destroyer by that same logic.
It's also very out of character for Kyoya to slack off after beating Gingka. Sure, beating Gingka was his main goal, but I highly doubt he would stop training this far into the tournament.
Heck no, a weaker version Damien litteraly humiliated the European team. Gingka (who mastered Pegasus at that time) had narrowly defeated Damian. While Kyoya then beat a more stronger Damien in a much more convincing way.
@@knave6257 By that time Kyoya and Gingka became a lot stronger . It's like saying Gingka from episode 21 could have beaten Damian because he did later on.
@@deesnutts2611 @deesnutts2611 When did it one shot Kerbecs? Kyoya had to use reverse wind strike to win? There's no evidence his normal tornado attacks would have more effect on Destroyer. Also by the end of the series Kyoya and Gingka became a lot stronger. . It's like saying Gingka from the beginning could have beaten Damian because he did later on. I'm not saying Kyoya couldn't beat Julian, just that it would be quite hard.
Ryuga wouldn't even know gingka is battling Damian so he can't lend gingka power plus Damian is stronger than when he battled kyoya just like in the anime he was stronger than when he battled gingka . Therefore Damian would beat gingka .
Why so quick that Kyoya would beat Julian?? Didn’t Julian one shot Gingka their first meeting
Kyoya is stronger than gingka
Damian got another arrangement after losing to gingka, which made him surpass gingka's power (and gingka didnt get stronger after that fight), then kyoya beat the new damian. So he is clearly stronger
@@josemou6172 yeah but that’s not the same Kyoya that faced Gingka in battle bladers.
@@josemou6172 pfft Kyoya is not stronger than Gingka. Even at the time they fought, he wasn't even able to defeat a Ginka who didn't have Stardust Driver. Julian would've won had Gingka not used that special move. The Kyoya that fought Damien is stronger than the Kyoya that fought Gingka during the World championships. Likewise, so was the Gingka who fought Julian being stronger than the one who fought Kyoya.
@@Auvisome kyoya who fought damian > gingka who fought damian
And gingka used his 100% to beat damian, then damian powered up to surpass that level of gingka so
@@josemou6172 Gingka who relocated the spiral core (planet busting btw) > Kyoya who fought Damian
Zeo wins against Nail. Ryuga wins against Jack. Kyoja wins against damian.
He wasn't beating team xcalaver In the A block finals lol
Wild fang would easily win that match up