Since a regular human gun is obviously too small to be operated by Shadow's massively fat hedgehog fingers, is there a canonical gun manufacturer in the Sonic universe that produces oversized weapons strictly for use by the weird animal-human hybrid creatures that terrorize humanity?
@@epic_guy01 Not really, both have been living on the same planet for thousands of years (at least before Iizuka just came around and said "two worlds, everyone!").
the icon of the handgun is m1911 with a bigger roundish trigger guard while the in game model is an really oddly shaped h&k mark23. i dont know if h&k produces re-scaled firearms but at the exchange for a large sum of monetary gain, why wouldnt they?
I love how shadow is immune to bullets by virtue of being too short. Better yet that the soldier CAN crouch but even then Shadow is too short to be hit. What a great game.
Sometimes he sides with the police, sometimes he's running from them. Sometimes he's indifferent to police officers, sometimes he outright injures one irl. Truly, Sonic the Hedgehog is a deeply complex and nuanced character.
@@psyxypher3881 ehhhh, I don't know about that. He has a defined personality for sure, but I'd hardly call him super complex. Sonic's a simple guy. He likes having fun and helping people, and that's about all there is to him.
Imagine being murdered by a 3-foot something, black and red, furry lab experiment with super speed and chaos powers. And not even by his actual powers, but by a regular gun that he probably stole off somebody.
Cause technically in Westopolis, the GUN soldiers aren't actually trying to kill Shadow. They are prescripted to shoot at the air because there is supposed to be black aliens around. The commander gives the order in the next cutscene regardless of which mission you do so GUN soldiers will shoot you no matter what after that.
Cold blood? Absolutely not. But he's the type to kill one member of a gang and let the others off with a warning. Maybe display the corpse out on his front yard.
The last few seconds sent me on an emotional rollercoaster: sonic committing murder, shadow's grieving process by firing at sonic then the air, sonic shaking his head in defiance, it has everything.
It's even funnier to think that at one point this game was originally going to be a Sonic-only game with him using guns instead of Shadow, and the only reason that was proposed was because the creator of Sonic listened to some kid that wanted Sonic to use guns. Now imagine if we got that game instead, I think that would've been the game that would have destroyed Sonic's reputation.
@@GamingTopTen True, even though the guns in Smash are not realistic like the firearms in Shadow The Hedgehog, and Sonic and the rest of the roster are not the actual characters, just figures on trophies brought to life.
"Cartoon characters never really get hurt by guns, but real people do! So NEVER play with a real gun, even if you think it's not loaded! I don't want any of my pals getting hurt by a deadly weapon. That's not a toy!"
@@psyxypher3881 Not sure about Charmy, but you absolutely cannot control Black Doom's eye or Eggman's flying telecommunications screen. Pretty sure the rest (Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Maria, Rouge, Omega, Espio, Vector) are controllable, though
The GUN agents are simultaneously deathly afraid of Shadow and their boss, so they pretend to aim at Shadow but intentionally miss in the hopes that he wont hurt them
This game's story is really deep. There is one part where you need to kill Black Doom's henchmen in order to enter Black Doom's gate, even if you are allied with Black Doom and he is following you around. Now that is hardcore, in order for Black Doom's own men to enter their own workplace, they have to fight and kill all of the guards, despite the fact that the guards are on the same side as they are. Imagine working at an office and having to fight and kill the security guards of the building every day just to get to work. This design is so amazing that only a genius could think it up. No way, this is Shadow the Edgehog, I mean a DAMN genius. I also love how in one mission you have to risk your life traveling around to push the button that are guarded by Balck Doom's men, despite the fact that Black Doom is in contact with his men and his men would probably be capable of pushing the button that they are standing right next to themselves. But he still makes you travel around to do it. This truly is the tactical genius of Black Doom, wasting the time of his strongest units with inefficient simple tasks that could be more efficiently and quicker done by his weaker units. Black Doom is a tactical genius. Sorry, I mean DAMN tactical DAMN genius. Dammit, I am too DAMN cool to not throw a DAMN swearing DAMN tantrum.
I like how sonic kills the cops when he says they are on their side when the likes on your comment are your dream sub-count I used to comment the dumbest shit
Small hedgehog, big gun, *on a motorcycle* dont forget the most important bit Even the story just loses interest and just ping pongs you around locals, and then undoes it all by having a true ending where you be a hero
Shadow using guns makes sense. What competent military wouldnt give its superweapons the ability to use guns. Also inb4 player 2 takes control of sonic and kills the cops himself.
A funny thing my friend found out, is that if you plug in a second controller, you can play as the other character. We think it was made for testing reasons but it’s still pretty cool nonetheless. Edit: Oh my god would the people in the replies shut up already? Not every single sonic game after sonic 2 would let you do this. And even if they did it’s not worth bickering over. I just found it funny especially since Maria can run as fast as sonic if you run around enough. I didn’t try to start World War III over here!
I had no idea the basic human soldiers couldn't hit Shadow if he stayed on the ground near them. I also didn't know about whatever was going on in the last second there.
"Hey, he's on our side!" Wow. I cannot believe sonic would take a stance like that during these troubled, highly political times. I used to be a fan of sonic, but man, he's changed. 😔
To be fair, the first one was in self-defence after Sonic tried to stay neutral for as long as he could, the second one was an accident (hopefully...).
You know that if you plug a second controller in, you can control your following character. Really nice touch and still why this game is relatively underappreciated.
Yeah because nobody actually dies in shadow the hedgehog except the aliens. The soldiers are still alive, you can step on them afterwards and they'll scream "SPARE ME" so despite filling them with lead they are still alive. Gun is immortal
Interesting fact: On the Gamecube version of this game, the Player 2 Controller can be used to take control of the character you're with (Except Doom's Eye & Eggman's Probe). It's basically a secret Co-op option for the Story Mode. If Player 2 doesn't move for a couple seconds, the AI will regain control. Player 2's character won't lose rings or die.
Sonic, Shadow, and all their friends then preceded to live on the animal world for the rest of their days to escape prosecution for their murdering of government soldiers during the 2005 alien invasion incident.
Young Sonic: "I got attitude bro! Nobody aint gonna stop me from doin' what I want, keep it in style kid!" 😎 New Sonic:😲"Woah there children! You must never hurt our respectful and deeply valued authorities! Remember to treat them nicely! They are our pals!" ☺👍 Meanwhile Sega: Why don't our games sell anymore? We still got Sonic, right? Me: Meh... Kinda
You can control I think every single buddy character in this by just playing start on player 2. Sonic, Maria, whatever. Have them kill everything for you; they're invincible.
Sonic when Shadow kills a cop: "Stop!"
Sonic when Shadow stops killing cops: "What's wrong, are you tired?"
well that makes sense '---'
@@Tsukiru a true friend
He totally approves but tells Sonic to stop for plausible deniability
@@scottgardner2950 Do you mean Shadow? Sonic in that sentence sounds weird!
@@WarmCedarElf yes I did mean that. Sonic approves of cop killing but tells Shadow to stop in case anyone is listening
Since a regular human gun is obviously too small to be operated by Shadow's massively fat hedgehog fingers, is there a canonical gun manufacturer in the Sonic universe that produces oversized weapons strictly for use by the weird animal-human hybrid creatures that terrorize humanity?
yes
That feels wrong on so many levels. You gotta remember these animals are like an alien species towards these humans
@@epic_guy01 Not really, both have been living on the same planet for thousands of years (at least before Iizuka just came around and said "two worlds, everyone!").
@@inendlesspain4724 Thank you for checking this misunderstanding of Sonic lore before I had to myself, soldier. Soon these savages will be educated.
the icon of the handgun is m1911 with a bigger roundish trigger guard while the in game model is an really oddly shaped h&k mark23. i dont know if h&k produces re-scaled firearms but at the exchange for a large sum of monetary gain, why wouldnt they?
I love how shadow is immune to bullets by virtue of being too short. Better yet that the soldier CAN crouch but even then Shadow is too short to be hit. What a great game.
To be fair, he's the Ultimate Lifeform, so bullets probably wouldn't be enough
@GoldenHydreigon 47 At first.
I thought I got hit by bullets because the soldiers had great aim, but now I'm thinking I just accidentally ran into them.
Interesting
Shadow proves short kings
Injuring a police officer at the Macy's Parade wasn't enough for him.
#OnlyOneBlueLifeMatters
Once you pop you just can't stop
The hedgehog has a taste for blood, we're doomed!
@@jinksgaming1715 lmao beat me to it
@@jinksgaming1715 Talk about being anti-authority
"There sure are a lot of police around when you don't need them."
-Sonic, 2001
2001 sonic was based, 2005 sonic lickin' them GUN boots SMH
@@KaiserMattTygore927 lmao
when did he say that? SA1? Or advance series?
@@BlastKetchup sa2
Shadow: "Say no more." *starts shooting*
Sometimes he sides with the police, sometimes he's running from them. Sometimes he's indifferent to police officers, sometimes he outright injures one irl. Truly, Sonic the Hedgehog is a deeply complex and nuanced character.
He also was a police officer himself once
@@HiyoriAroused holy shit you're right
...the plot thickens
I know this is probably a joke, but he kinda is. One need only listen to It Doesn't Matter to get a good grasp of Sonic's mindset.
@@psyxypher3881 ehhhh, I don't know about that. He has a defined personality for sure, but I'd hardly call him super complex. Sonic's a simple guy. He likes having fun and helping people, and that's about all there is to him.
@@Astro_Crunch surely he also strives to go fast
Shadow is 3ft tall and the soldiers never think to point their guns downward
Imagine being murdered by a 3-foot something, black and red, furry lab experiment with super speed and chaos powers. And not even by his actual powers, but by a regular gun that he probably stole off somebody.
Ever tried hitting a moving target? Yea? Well ever tried hitting 3ft target moving target a Hyper Sonic speeds?
@@selassieaspen9940 While they're just standing. It's impossible from what I remember.
Cause technically in Westopolis, the GUN soldiers aren't actually trying to kill Shadow. They are prescripted to shoot at the air because there is supposed to be black aliens around. The commander gives the order in the next cutscene regardless of which mission you do so GUN soldiers will shoot you no matter what after that.
Sonic is the only children's videogame mascot character that I fully expect to have killed multiple men in cold blood
I'd expect the same from Crash Bandicoot, tbh
kirby
Mario's not killed anyone, but he's probably done a kidnapping.
@@someobscuremusicchannel I said men, not gods
Cold blood? Absolutely not.
But he's the type to kill one member of a gang and let the others off with a warning. Maybe display the corpse out on his front yard.
The last few seconds sent me on an emotional rollercoaster: sonic committing murder, shadow's grieving process by firing at sonic then the air, sonic shaking his head in defiance, it has everything.
Agreed
It's even funnier to think that at one point this game was originally going to be a Sonic-only game with him using guns instead of Shadow, and the only reason that was proposed was because the creator of Sonic listened to some kid that wanted Sonic to use guns.
Now imagine if we got that game instead, I think that would've been the game that would have destroyed Sonic's reputation.
Sonic then went on to use guns in Brawl, making the entire thing of making Shadow do it completely pointless.
@@GamingTopTen True, even though the guns in Smash are not realistic like the firearms in Shadow The Hedgehog, and Sonic and the rest of the roster are not the actual characters, just figures on trophies brought to life.
@@GamingTopTen *for his neutral special, he uses a g u n*
That's also why Gamma (and thus Omega) got created. U.S. kids wanted Sonic to use a gun. Sega got cold feet, so they made playable robots instead.
@@targettoad691 But for those robot make sense and don't forget who build them
"Cartoon characters never really get hurt by guns, but real people do! So NEVER play with a real gun, even if you think it's not loaded! I don't want any of my pals getting hurt by a deadly weapon. That's not a toy!"
Shadow doesn't care about that lol
+Mister Crowley That's from the Sonic Sez at the end of the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog episode, "Magnificent Sonic".
+Mister Crowley That's from the Sonic Sez at the end of the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog episode, "Magnificent Sonic".
@@FlyingDuckMan360 Did you comment this twice or did the double comment bug show up?
@@unknownbunny9888 The latter.
The game is 2-player, so you can actually have Sonic kill all of the cops if you want.
Yeah, the second player can take control of the usual Sonic cast, so you could have Sonic complete the Dark Mission for you.
So it’s like The other sonic games like you can control Tails in Sonic adventure in 2player
I believe Xbox version isn't, to my knowledge.
@@Kris.876 I'm like, 90% sure you can't play as Eggman, Black Doom or Charmy, but yeah.
@@psyxypher3881 Not sure about Charmy, but you absolutely cannot control Black Doom's eye or Eggman's flying telecommunications screen. Pretty sure the rest (Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Maria, Rouge, Omega, Espio, Vector) are controllable, though
To be fair, THAT guy was the one piloting Big Foot.
Seems justified
I love how GUN have zero problems doming a teenage girl mid-movement but a static hedgehog is far too difficult a target
If they aimed down their arms would get tired
The GUN agents are simultaneously deathly afraid of Shadow and their boss, so they pretend to aim at Shadow but intentionally miss in the hopes that he wont hurt them
???
Standards have really dropped in the last 50 years…
Maria...
0:57 When Sonic kills the cop, he just walks towards him and stands in shock, I'm dying from laughter.
Sonic: "hey he's on our side!"
Shadow: "then why was he trying to shoot me Sonic?!"
simple, sonic is a blue, shadow is black. they only shoot at people who are black.
In the words of the Hedgehog himself "there’s always a lot of police around when you don’t need them"
This is the second time Sonic has assaulted a police officer in his career
Sonic is definitely Chaotic Chaotic. He's totally just trying to mess with Shadow's head and play on this whole "which side" thing he's going through.
God, the police have worse aim than storm troopers.
So what your saying is, Ben was right when he said Troopers are accurate :v
Silver would travel back in time to make sure the cop was never born in the first place.
To this day it still baffles me that there's a Sonic game where you could swear and shoot cops with a pistol
Sonic went from injuring a police officer to actually killing them. 10/10 character development
Last I checked, you can't actually kill any of the GUN soldiers. They just lie on the ground, injured, begging for help or something.
Sonic is such a faker, acting like he doesn't like Shadow killing cops but not doing anything to stop him.
Based game btw
Based on what?
@@Zzz-j2f Based on me and your mom
Cop killing isn't based
@@boogaloobender3462 Of course, no killing is based.
@@driveasandwich6734 Who?
It would’ve been so interesting if there was dialogue for if Sonic hurt a gun soldier like apologizing.
Add some variety to:
"Sorry!"
"Oh, uh, walk it off."
"A speeding ticket for THAT!?"
he wouldn't _kill_ a cop with a gun but he sure would crash into a lamp post to _injure_ one
funny seeing this as some dude in florida tried to rob a bank this week wearing a sonic mask
The funnier part is the fact the man was too fast for the cops to arrest him and got away on foot.
@@PrimeofPerfection The spirit of Sonic possessed that man and saved him.
It had to be Florida....
I love my state
god damn Florida....
Now this is purely from a different continuity, but to think Sonic befriended a cop in his live-action movie adaptation.
Everyone eventually becomes a rat
I feel like I just watch someone trying to gaslight sonic into killing a cop
This says a lot about society and how we live in one
This game's story is really deep. There is one part where you need to kill Black Doom's henchmen in order to enter Black Doom's gate, even if you are allied with Black Doom and he is following you around. Now that is hardcore, in order for Black Doom's own men to enter their own workplace, they have to fight and kill all of the guards, despite the fact that the guards are on the same side as they are. Imagine working at an office and having to fight and kill the security guards of the building every day just to get to work. This design is so amazing that only a genius could think it up. No way, this is Shadow the Edgehog, I mean a DAMN genius.
I also love how in one mission you have to risk your life traveling around to push the button that are guarded by Balck Doom's men, despite the fact that Black Doom is in contact with his men and his men would probably be capable of pushing the button that they are standing right next to themselves. But he still makes you travel around to do it. This truly is the tactical genius of Black Doom, wasting the time of his strongest units with inefficient simple tasks that could be more efficiently and quicker done by his weaker units.
Black Doom is a tactical genius. Sorry, I mean DAMN tactical DAMN genius. Dammit, I am too DAMN cool to not throw a DAMN swearing DAMN tantrum.
RUclips Academy Award for Best Comment goes to...
Wasn't it proven you could jump around those gates?
Also is the button referring to Cental City's bombs?
I like how sonic kills the cops when he says they are on their side
when the likes on your comment are your dream sub-count
I used to comment the dumbest shit
Then when Shadow briefly stops shooting he says "What, are you tired?"
Sonic’s doing the friendly fire run
@@bendito247 lmfao
The first hit was Shadow's, you can see him shooting. The ending tho, yeh
Would have been funnier if they got a second player and had sonic just kill him
Technically the gun soldiers only get knocked down, but yeah Sonic sure injured the hell out of him.
I mean Sonics, what? 3ft? how heavy?
Like a small dog landin on ya im sure hes fiiiiiine.
*cop sits down*
Sonic: “What’s wrong, are you tired?”
For something that was supposed to be the whole point of the game, the alignment system really felt like such an afterthought.
Literally everything other than "hedgehog have big gun" feels like an afterthought in this game
Small hedgehog, big gun, *on a motorcycle* dont forget the most important bit
Even the story just loses interest and just ping pongs you around locals, and then undoes it all by having a true ending where you be a hero
This is the content I've been waiting for this whole year
*2 months
Welp, if Sonic says it's okay, I guess I WILL climb into the dryer.
Please be nice to that cop, it's his very first day
"It was a misinput, MISINPUT, CALM DOWN!
(Sonic pleads Shadow to stop, 0:06)
YOU CALM THE FUCK DOWN
(stunned silence)
IT WAS A MISINPUT!"
Shadow using guns makes sense.
What competent military wouldnt give its superweapons the ability to use guns.
Also inb4 player 2 takes control of sonic and kills the cops himself.
1:00 sonic just looking at what he's done is the funniest thing to me
I swear in Cryptic Castle, Amy will murder Egg Pawn and then scold you for doing it
Yeah. Espio does that in Mad Matrix as well.
Abusive relationship.
Sonic: "I would never kill our boys in blue. After all, we match!"
Player 2: "Hey I can control side characters in Story Mode!!"
"YOUR MORAL COMPASS IS A FUCKING ROULETTE WHEEL"
A funny thing my friend found out, is that if you plug in a second controller, you can play as the other character. We think it was made for testing reasons but it’s still pretty cool nonetheless.
Edit: Oh my god would the people in the replies shut up already? Not every single sonic game after sonic 2 would let you do this. And even if they did it’s not worth bickering over. I just found it funny especially since Maria can run as fast as sonic if you run around enough. I didn’t try to start World War III over here!
It's probably a hold over from SADX since it had the same feature
Strange thing is Maria has a kick attack, i don't remember if she uses it in normal gameplay
You could do this in Sonic 3 & Knuckles as well. Seems to be a regular feature in Sonic games. Hope this helps.
You are able to it since Sonic 2
Why am I only finding out about this now? Childhood: wasted.
I had no idea the basic human soldiers couldn't hit Shadow if he stayed on the ground near them. I also didn't know about whatever was going on in the last second there.
The only blue life that matters is our hero Sonic
You can't see his face but Sonic's silence after murdering a policeman tells me that he probably knows he fucked up. XD
"Hey, he's on our side!"
Wow. I cannot believe sonic would take a stance like that during these troubled, highly political times. I used to be a fan of sonic, but man, he's changed. 😔
A artful comment
Sonic would never back the blue right?😬
@@aturchomicz821 Sonic IS the blue, my man
@@aturchomicz821 sonic has literally been a cop since the 90s
But then he kills a cop himself, so he’s obviously hypocritical
“What’s wrong, are you tired?”
Reminds me of a line from Ryder in GTA San Andreas.
To be fair, the first one was in self-defence after Sonic tried to stay neutral for as long as he could, the second one was an accident (hopefully...).
You know that if you plug a second controller in, you can control your following character. Really nice touch and still why this game is relatively underappreciated.
Sonic really was like: "Shadow please stop killing feds, its a bad thing to do 🤓🤓"
when's the "there's nothing offensive about genocide" bonus video
This is the quality kind of content I need in my life.
Be it in video games or as a parade float, Sonic doesn't like cops
Just for context, the GUN troops won't aggro on you in the first level; a rare case of story and gameplay integration
And if you are far enough along in Hero or Dark routes, the specific team also stops hitting you.
Stormtroopers finally have some competition
I love the idea that Sonic is just on the sidelines
"JEEZ SHADOW STOP KILLING PEOPLE, Come on Man, come on"
You should make a video on this underrated masterpiece
I 100% believed this would transition into the Macy's Float injuring the police officer news coverage.
Sonic's just playin' to piss Shadow off. He's a comrade through and through.
Everyone forgets that one time Sonic killed a helicopter full of soldiers in Sonic Adventure 2.
Sonic and Shadow need to come to this world. We need them.
Imagine not being able to shoot shadow with a gun LMAO😂😂😂😂😂
This Gun member is unreal, he sits down and stands up in a split second and has advanced stormtrooper aim
Even when kneeling, the cops are shooting over Shadow's head 🤣
Man this guy has such great aim, he could be a stormtrooper in starwars or something
0:50 (guy spends whole video shooting at you)
Sonic: HEY He's on our Side !
Shadow: I'VE GOT TO FIND OUT THE TRUTH
Just ends the video with shadow standing sideways on a cop's body while shooting straight up. Magnificent.
Shadow stop!
You shouldn't waste your ammo
Here grab this stop sign
Yeah because nobody actually dies in shadow the hedgehog except the aliens.
The soldiers are still alive, you can step on them afterwards and they'll scream "SPARE ME"
so despite filling them with lead they are still alive. Gun is immortal
Forget bullets, they can take the pure and unrelenting force of chaos energy through Chaos Blast, and still act as if they only sprained a knee.
you can control the other character following you if you plug in a second controller, so its very easy to make sonic kill a cop
"Hey he's on our side"
A moment later, soldier:"AAARGH!" 😂
0:26 Of course he shoots the black hedgehog.
That ending where Shadow laid down and shot towards the sky 💀💀🤣😭
"What you see is what you get! Just a guy that loves Chaotic Neutral!"
- Sonic the Hedgehog
I love how the last couple of seconds has Shadow jankedly standing at an angle on the cop, lmao
Sonic: *gets hurt by the cop
Shadow: *attacks the cop
Sonic: hEY, he's on our side!
Sonic, you were mentally ill in this whole game, I love you
The only reason Sonic wouldn’t kill a cop is because of his own moral code. I think he’d definitely punch one though.
GOD I MISS THESE VOICES! It’s soooo them like it fits perfectly and sounds like the Adventure and Heroes voices growned up.
I still find it amazing that humans in modern tactical gear with real guns were an enemy in a canon sonic game.
shadow: *shoots gun with cop*
sonic: Stop!
Shadow: NO.
Interesting fact:
On the Gamecube version of this game, the Player 2 Controller can be used to take control of the character you're with (Except Doom's Eye & Eggman's Probe). It's basically a secret Co-op option for the Story Mode. If Player 2 doesn't move for a couple seconds, the AI will regain control. Player 2's character won't lose rings or die.
If you have a second controller, you can make sonic kill the cops himself.
Sonic, Shadow, and all their friends then preceded to live on the animal world for the rest of their days to escape prosecution for their murdering of government soldiers during the 2005 alien invasion incident.
I like how when Sonic kills the cop shadow just starts unloading like “how could you you fucking monster”
Young Sonic: "I got attitude bro! Nobody aint gonna stop me from doin' what I want, keep it in style kid!" 😎
New Sonic:😲"Woah there children! You must never hurt our respectful and deeply valued authorities! Remember to treat them nicely! They are our pals!" ☺👍
Meanwhile Sega: Why don't our games sell anymore? We still got Sonic, right?
Me: Meh... Kinda
You can control I think every single buddy character in this by just playing start on player 2. Sonic, Maria, whatever. Have them kill everything for you; they're invincible.
Sonic: Hey he's on our side.
Shadow After Being shot at 20 times:
...are you sure about that?
Love the way Sonic says "Stop!"
"I'm the only blue life that matters, Shadow"
Sonic: HEY HE'S ON OUR SIDE?!
*Cop tries to shoot Shadow*
Sonic: *Stuns a solider*
At least they have better AI than those enemies in the beginning of forces
It's like Shadow grabbed his hand, aimed for him, and forced him to pull the trigger
0:15 "You missed! How could you miss!? He was three feet in front of you!"
With that kind of aim, it's little wonder the Black Arms were able to invade so easily.
I’m now noticing how much the gun forces look like the security guards from the half-life prerelease.
I love the image of a cop shooting at something and Shadow in front of him just watching
i love how sonic straight up Nods "NO NO NO" in the end