I sucked on this, sorry. I've always done some preparation for these, but part of the idea here was that the contestants not prepare, and I'm not versed at all on this topic. I'm like the wojak with his brain in a microwave here compared to my teammates Fringy and Theo. I kinda shut down and just worked at occasional shitposting.
Hey atleast you didn’t get all pissy about your answers being right when not picked or people guessing things you had written on a list that you didn’t ever communicate to your teammates. You may not have had too much that you knew but you also had a good attitude about the game
Theodore, if thou art reading this, perhaps there is a chance of a Monogatari review sometimes this decade? It’s an amazing show with story, characters and incest all being 11 out of 10. Also get Lord Longbong of Mewlbschlington Abbey to behold its glory, we must challenge his perception of reality by having him witness Araragi gro- I mean befriending ****the 21 year old ***** elementary schooler
@@forsakenparadise6828 if it's because they tend to be the most pretentious ones, then I kinda get why they can be annoying at times for you, but "can't stand" and "worst efap guest" is crazy lmao
MauLer really took his little "guess the IMDB Doctor Who top 10" segment that he used to slowly drive Gary and Az insane on Real BBC and made a whole show out of it.
It's a pleasure if only because there are delightful parallels with this quiz stream. A list of limited, but ranked choices, a slightly vague method of how the rankings were determined, more answers that would make sense than there are available slots etc. But the special sauce for the Dr Who quiz is that, unlike the EFAP stream, Gary and Az are self-professed experts on the subject being discussed so watching their guesses go completely off the rails as they desperately try to beat the quiz was just... it was fun.
@@comeatmebro8120 I mean, that was honestly kind of deserved. Sure, you had Muhammad Ali and Freddy Mercury as outliers, but everyone else on that list had nothing to do with popculture. Brooks and in a more limited fashion Dev kept trying to jump in with those suggestions. Brooks did give them the elusive number 9 with Marco Polo, and he figured out Che Guevara, but he came up with some absolute nonsense as well.
@@Arphemius I don’t think that’s a valid reason to be condescending to your teammate. But to be a bit more fair to Rags, Brooks was also being annoying with his whole “I told you guys (insert name) would be on the list, but nobody listened to me” attitude. So there’s blame to cast on both sides
I think Theo summed it up best with, "I feel like I'm interacting with a black box, but in an enjoyable way." This was a fun episode, even though the list throws you so many curveballs that it's basically impossible to get it even after a while of playing the game. Although they could've run through more painters after they got the first one, they gave up on those too quickly.
Its pretty interesting how defeated Fringy sounded with the bad start, but at the end he is very happy when he was winning. I bet if Rags was winning instead, he would have been the one being very happy about it. Fringy and Rags are interestingly very similar people in that sense.
This was a lot of fun to watch. Between this and the trolley problem shenanigans on 250 it's been a nice to see you guys branch out to other things that work well with this format.
If I understood correctly, the number calculated all the languages available. Therefore having Putin there doesn't surprise me, since many European countries have written countless articles about him in many different languages. Same with lack of chinese guys, there just aren't as many different languages of people using wikipedia there, I think wikipedia is even banned in China specifically. Jimmy Carter is still weird though.
Putin has also been quite relevant for a lot of politics and wars for the last 25 years and the time Wikipedia has existed and is the leader of the "remains" of the USSR. I was surprised they didn't throw his name in there since if anyone alive were to be on that list it would probably be him. Multiple wars in Ukraine, Georgia, Chechnya and has his hands in the middle east. Anything that happens in a former USSR country politically probably has something related to him and you can't write an article about European security or energy without it being related to Russia and he is the dictator on top. Most presidents or equivalent is only relevant for 4 to 8 years but Putin has been at the top for 3-6x that and unlike western leaders who share powers and responsibilities (and thus spreads it out ) Putin keeps it all.
Dev: "Nobody does 69 in real life. It's way too much of a hassle." Considering Dev and his girlfriend have a combined weight of 300kg, I don't doubt he feels that way. And I still can't believe that neither Michael Jackson nor Elvis made the list, while Jimmy Carter is giving me this shit-eating grin from 93th place.
I think it would be worthwhile to get an assistant for a few of the tasks, such as keeping score, turn order, everything named, etc Surprisingly fun content, would be glad to see more of this, maybe even structured around specifically EFAP content, such as Moviebob or Nawzee quiz or anything like that. Would be funny if Mauler's gameshows had more success than the Nostalgia Critic ones.
Or some additional preparation. Instead of doing the math in your head it would have been easier to have an Excel sheet. Put in the guessed name, the rank and have it automatically calculate the total score.
@@ShiroyWolfDefinitely agree this could have used some more careful prep from Mauler, but I think he figured that out pretty quickly and will do much better next time.
@@TheRealJabbergeist I disagree completely. The chaotic approach and lack of prep lend a certain charm and fun to proceedings. Too much polish and it loses something special. Like a Doctor Who episode - it's just more charming when the monsters fall apart at the seems but everyone's trying their best to make it work.
I am not crazy! I know he swapped those numbers! I knew it was 101. One after Winston. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn't prove it. He - he covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the Wiki to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. Abraham Lincoln! Are you telling me he's not on the list!? No! He orchestrated it! Jimmy! He went against Ford! And I saved him! And I shouldn't have. I took him into my own party! What was I thinking? He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was 9, always the same! Couldn't keep his hands out of the cash drawer! But not our Jimmy! Couldn't be precious Jimmy! Stealing them blind! And he gets to be President!? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you - you have to stop him!
Honestly, I wasn't surprised Carter was on the list because his term was a gigantic shitshow of domestic and international crises, plus all of his post-presidential stuff. JFK and FDR not being on the list blew my mind.
@PanzerblitzRnR but that's why. The survey was composed of the good and bad of all digital literature on the subject. If it weren't, Hitler wouldn't be here.
Extremely fun episode. When Mauler disclosed what the method of doing this list was that it picked the most referenced people on Wikipedia, and that it was across 14 Languages, it made all the sense to me that people like Abraham Lincoln didn't make it. What was shocking to me was that Miguel de Cervantes didn't make it to the list.
Yeah, but he was completely wrong about that. I checked on the website and it's not anything like that. "HPI [Human Popularity Index] is currently made of five components: the “age” of a biography’s character (e.g. Jesus is more than 2,000 years old), number of Wikipedia language editions in which the biography has a presence (L), the concentration of the pageviews received by a biography across languages (L*), the stability of pageviews over time (CV), and the number of non-English pageviews received by that biography. We find that combining these metrics provides a more sensible ranking than using these metrics alone." It does not only use more than one factor, number of wikipedia references is not even one of them.
@Arphemius the about section on Pantheon (the site the list is from), mentions your explanation below the one MauLer used. He read it directly from the site, so even if he did get it wrong (which I'm still not sure about, because both explanations are used, one is about Pantheon, one is about specifically the Historical Popularity Index), it's a very understandable mistake
This will definitely be one of my favorite EFAPs and I'm really looking forward fr something similar with fictional characters. This format let me be super engaged as I was searching through my own memory to think of some people that could be on this list :)
The thing with Vasco da Gama is that, he is not just a explorer, but there is a football team here in Brazil who is named after him, word for word, Vasco da Gama, he is even in the anthem, so maybe that influenced the high number of results as Vasco da Gama is not only a big team here in Brazil but it's also a old team (the team was created in 1898)
If im beinf honest, this is the first time ive heard the claim moses wasnt real. Even in my super liberal college, moses was acknowledged to be real, it was just his actions and the biblical events he was a part of that were challenged and questioned
Moses' historicity has always been questionable. The earliest references to him in any form are from about 500 years after his lifetime at the earliest, and there's debate to whether there is ANY historical basis to the events of the Exodus. It's entirely possible Moses, like Homer, is an amalgamation of a large number of religious and cultural figures tied together in handy narrative.
He was almost certainly real. Cringe atheists just like to gaslight. Some even claim Jesus wasn't a real person, lol. There is better evidence for Jesus existing than Alexander the Great. I'm pretty sure liberals just like to claim outlandish and subversive things to make them sound smart. They were trying to push that "Shakespeare wasn't a real person" thing for a while. It's been debunked, but many are still stubbornly clinging to that idea for some reason.
I'm about halfway done and intend to finish, but do any of them ever realize that Mauler said this list is based on ALL versions of wiki, not just the western versions? Tolkien made it clear. Think of how many languages his books are translated to. It's killing me that they haven't caught on yet 😂
I mean I kinda believe it’s less fun than it would seem because it’s kinda awkward if there’s a big height difference, but yeah knowing his name is “short fat otaku” I’m not surprised a position difficult for short or fat people isn’t his fav
@@AbysalssI never had problems due to the height difference and there is a 44cm difference between me and my gf. I can believe weight could influence that a lot though.
Oh, Mauler got the method of how the list was compiled completely wrong: "HPI is currently made of five components: the “age” of a biography’s character (e.g. Jesus is more than 2,000 years old), number of Wikipedia language editions in which the biography has a presence (L), the concentration of the pageviews received by a biography across languages (L*), the stability of pageviews over time (CV), and the number of non-English pageviews received by that biography. We find that combining these metrics provides a more sensible ranking than using these metrics alone." It really does not use total amount of Wikipedia references at all.
There are a lot of takes from Dev that bewilder me. But the idea that adults do not 69 is the most delusional yet. How can anyone take anything he ever says again seriously?
His name is short fat otaku and it’s a position that notably doesn’t work well if you’re short and awkward for fat people. So it’s like it was made against him
The trick is to not think of popularity, but the amount of references to the individual. How many times will their work be translated, built on, or referenced? How far did their influence reach? Poor Rags. His team kept forgetting that and knocking down his ideas. It felt very demoralizing just to watch.
That strategy worked very poorly actually. Victoria, despite being an extremely well referenced individual, wasn't on the list. Rags rigidly sticking to that line of thinking made him the LVP of his team.
@bigwinz not saying there weren't flukes. Victoria was an odd one to be missing. But generally, the Fleems kept overwriting Rags ideas for popular people they knew despite their influence not being very broad.
I feel like it could be interesting to invert the way points are given so that the easy picks at the top of lists like this are less rewarding than digging deep to try and hit some of the ones lower down, but it's a fun format either way.
Fringy's sudden and aggressive insistence on Humphrey Bogart, just due to sheer confusion and anger over quickly realising the absurdity of this list, is pure comedy gold 🤣
There's been no one to curb Rag's worst tendencies. Even in regular EFAPs, he's made a habit of taking the show to a screeching halt just to make a stupid joke, especially when he hasn't heard his own voice in 10 minutes.
@@TheRealJabbergeist What I mean is like, instead of Jesus being worth 97 points and Churchill 1, Churchill should be worth 100 and Jesus 3, make the amount of points proportional to the placement, instead of inversely proportional
Midway through the video, so far I liked round 1 much better, as it was (mostly) points earned with knowledge and smart and strategical picks. Round 2 seems like random guesswork. It's fun and practical to have some of the lesser known entries revealed, but I wish there was a better way. But let's see where this is going
If the starting point is wikipedia, wikipedia is going to axe a lot of information if it upsets an established narrative. If wiki allowed a significant portion of what Abraham Lincoln actually did it would very much damage the rose colored glasses through which we're "supposed" to view the great emancipator. So yeah, it's curated, keep that in mind.
The explorers like Vasco da Gama and Magellan deserve more respect than what was given by the EFAP crew >: Also i can see why Che Guevara is on the list because he was very influential in South America, Wikipedia is global after all, so Mr Washigton and Honest Abe aren't enough for this list if imagine. The CCP don't want their papa Mao's dirty laundries exposed to the world so i assume is why he's not on the list.
Che Guevara has done so much criminal shit across many countries in South America that it makes perfect sense that he has many references across many articles. (Specially the about gay discrimination).
I haven't progressed far into this episode yet, but to guess Lincoln, Washington, and Bogart directly after Jesus and amongst the first five or six attempts proves they didn't consider the world beyond the USA and maybe Western Europe, at least initially.
@@detectivejuice711390% of the list is some flavor of European so that's not exactly surprising. Especially considering that even in multiple languages, Europe and the US have had an extremely disproportionate influence on world history.
Poor Brooks. Felt like his team ignored him half the game despite some of his guesses being at the top. Fringy and Theo was a powerhouse though. Probably didn't matter.
Bro was his teams worst asset. Literally just giving good answers away for no reason and then fighting for bad ones. Dude just needed to keep his mouth shut a little more.
Alright for those of you wondering, the hypothesis I have and think is 100% correct is that the AI didn't count references from other books and sources outside of Wikipedia. I believe it counted the references back to the Wikipedia page of said figure on other Wikipedia pages (aka those blue hyperlink texts). This would explain why Sun Tzu isn't on the list because he doesn't have as many battles as Alexander the Great or Napoleon who have long campaigns with many battles, each with their own Wikipedia page giving more chances of having hyperlinks back to their pages. Sun Tzu also wasn't in as many historical events as Hitler, Alexander, Napoleon, Elisabeth II, Cleopatra, etc. Which again more events that have their own pages would increase the chances of hyperlinks. And yes Sun Tzu made "The Art of War" which does get referenced a lot but it has its own Wikipedia page so all those references don't get given to Sun Tzu by proxy. This theory would also explain why Euclid isn't on the list because his "Euclidian Geometry" page gets referenced more than Euclid himself. The other mathematicians that appear on the list so far at 3:41:41 are Archimedes and Pascal. Both of which aren't just mathematicians, unlike Euclid; but are also Physicists, Archimedes is also an engineer, astronomer and inventor, meanwhile Pascal is a philosopher and catholic writer. Also explains why Martin Luther King Jr isn't on the list but Nelson Mandela is. It explains why Abraham Lincoln isn't on the list since he wasn't a general and wasn't part of many individual historical events. Doesn't explain why George Washington isn't on the list since he was a general in many battles and present for historical events, maybe he just got drowned out by others. And I don't have enough context as a non-American to understand why Jimmy Carter is there but perhaps it makes more sense now. The presence of Artists (Painter, writer or Musicians) explain themselves by how big their catalogs are (Shakespeare) or how influential in different events and movements their works were (Voltaire) or how foundational to their Domain their works are (Shakespeare, Bach, Mozart). Religious figures explain themselves and foundational Scientists, Philosophers and Inventors as well.
@@jcjgraham no need to apologise, I think Theo and Fringy just got into a groove. To be fair to all of you, you’re all the first people to play this and you had to play live lol. Was a lot of fun to listen to, I was yelling answers out the whole time. Hope to see another one.
@taylorcrawford4387 That and the constant badgering for them to use his guess instead. His guesses were good sometimes but the way he went abt it made it so that it was awkward either way. Also, the way he'd say "Uh Hello..." was so childish. Overall just would have been a much better experience if it was a 2v2 with Rags and Dev vs Fringy and Theo. Nothing against Jon, I love when he's on the pod but he really didn't add anything for the quiz. It was just Fringy and Theo on their team, with Brooks playing for both teams 😅
@@dyllwill Yeah Jon seemed like he was out of his element and I really hope he'll be more comfortable to talk more whenever he's on again. Nothing against him, I actually didn't mind him not saying much since Fringy and Theo were great together.
Yeah I really love rags'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s but any time it comes up he radiates "edgy teenager-GODS NOT REAL MOOOOOOM" energy. We get it, you're an atheist.
I'm coming to this late days later. But I was saying 'Elizabeth 1st of England' from almost the beginning of the stream, and at 1hr 40 Mauler said that she was on the list.
No, but you see, there’s no archeological evidence for this person. As we all know, ancient empires like Egypt are famous for writing about times that they were embarrassed and defeated. And of course, the Dead Sea Scrolls would not at all point to the reliability of the Torah despite the fact that we would absolutely consider them historical evidence if we did not already know they were connected to the Bible
at about 2 hours, I started thinking to myself "hammurabai is on this list, when does he get revealed?" i must watch the rest to find out! also 2:42:20 i see you in chat robert torch! at 3:14:00 im also thinking of another "shoe in" name, that being peter the great. 3:36:48 finally someone said hammurabai! but hes not on the list? WHAAAAT?
For what its worth, Mauler did not accurately describe the metric used to generate this list. It is an ad hoc index called 'Historical Popularity Index', which is based on how long ago the person was alive, the number of languages on Wikipedia in which they have a page, and the number of pageviews they receive on Wikipedia. This I think explains a lot about some of the strange inclusions and exclusions. Also note that the rankings can change dramatically from year to year based on pageviews. For instance, Cleopatra went from 300s in 2020 up to 48 in 2022, presumably because of the dumb 'documentary' that came out.
I am baffled beyond belief that Euler was both not mentioned, and that he wasn't on the list. He is, aside from Newton or *maybe* Gauss, the most influential mathematician ever born.
It's hilarious that all seven of them were wrong about not guessing Washington already, it was their second guess before Buddha. Well 6 of them, because the guy on the left was actually right, although not certain enough of it. I have to give credit to @Luke Sampson who says: "Still not on the list? I'm stunned." That's great. Not that I mean this to the boys in general, but I do want to use this moment to remind people, a lot of the time, when people are the most confident is when they are wrong. So don't be fooled by confidence alone.
i didnt remember them saying Washington so i just went back to the start of the video and Lincoln was their second guess right before Buddha, but they did throw out Washington as a “fuck it i dont understand this list” guess on their 4th turn which i completely forgot about, just goes to show none of us really know what the fuck happened because it’s hard to remember everything everyone said after several hours of hearing them say other shit lol
@@ClobberingSocks Oh, sorry, I meant second president pick after Lincoln, although I did think it came one after another, but turns out Buddha and Muhammad were said between the two, so I was wrong along with wording it weird. Yeah it's hard to remember, but you would think you would remember what you locked in, especially when that formed your opinion so hard on Presidents and they weren't in that deep yet, and they were so sure too which makes it ironically funny (that's actually does count as irony believe it or not - it's the disconnect from the audience and the participants - don't know if many people know about that). Also it helped make them go into the negatives too.
I dont know why the cast were so surprised at Ghengis Khan at 4. If i were to pick a list of most influential historical figures, he'd be top 3. Who the fuck is Sun Tsu compared to the Khan? Who is Adolf Hitler to the Khan? For every reason Julius Ceasar and Napoleon are on this list, the Khan would be ×10. Every land he touched would reference him. Everything the Mongol Empire (the largest land empire ever) did or had a hand in would reference back to him.
@slawaboga1433 not trying to be a superfan, it's just super odd to me that Ghengis Khan at #4 got a reaction like that from the cast. They were surprised he was there over Sun Tsu, Sun Tsu is a footnote compared to the Khan. Objectively, Ghengis Khan is one of the most influential historical figures. I guess they just kinda forgot or have a weird blind spot on the Mongol Empire.
Mauler had such a fun time with saw, he now wants his guests to play a game
Hello Fringy, I would like to play a game.
Long man made a long game
Now we need a MauLer puppet
It comes with its own Mauler Kramer recording
@@AimlessSavant That Mauler puppet (Maulsaw) would have to ride around upon a kids size skull with wheels with a clown horn taped to it
“If he’s not there then just, gun head” - Theo. This is my new favourite quote.
my favorite new quote is "Does Joe Rogan have a surname?" from Mauler XD
I sucked on this, sorry. I've always done some preparation for these, but part of the idea here was that the contestants not prepare, and I'm not versed at all on this topic. I'm like the wojak with his brain in a microwave here compared to my teammates Fringy and Theo. I kinda shut down and just worked at occasional shitposting.
Still enjoyed your random additions, though.
Bro Greg talks more than you
Hey atleast you didn’t get all pissy about your answers being right when not picked or people guessing things you had written on a list that you didn’t ever communicate to your teammates. You may not have had too much that you knew but you also had a good attitude about the game
While we’re here, give a hand to Theo as he now has 2 videos on his channel!
I like Theo , he’s a good kid
Theodore, if thou art reading this, perhaps there is a chance of a Monogatari review sometimes this decade? It’s an amazing show with story, characters and incest all being 11 out of 10. Also get Lord Longbong of Mewlbschlington Abbey to behold its glory, we must challenge his perception of reality by having him witness Araragi gro- I mean befriending ****the 21 year old ***** elementary schooler
Theo is the worst efap guest can’t stand how needlessly rude he is one rags is enough for me
@@forsakenparadise6828 if it's because they tend to be the most pretentious ones, then I kinda get why they can be annoying at times for you, but "can't stand" and "worst efap guest" is crazy lmao
@@epicdotpngnotfound8857Theo is a he. Also he's literally one of the best guests.
MauLer really took his little "guess the IMDB Doctor Who top 10" segment that he used to slowly drive Gary and Az insane on Real BBC and made a whole show out of it.
Which episode?
Which episode?
Fuck lads I'm trying to find it and cant. Its been between 2-3months ago and was a 20 min segment. When I find I'll post with timestamp
@@captbuckyohare5585 The fact that you're trying for the sake of these fine folks already makes you a scholar and a gentleman.
It's a pleasure if only because there are delightful parallels with this quiz stream. A list of limited, but ranked choices, a slightly vague method of how the rankings were determined, more answers that would make sense than there are available slots etc. But the special sauce for the Dr Who quiz is that, unlike the EFAP stream, Gary and Az are self-professed experts on the subject being discussed so watching their guesses go completely off the rails as they desperately try to beat the quiz was just... it was fun.
The comparison to Family Feud at the beggining was spot on. The amounts of ''what the fuck?" "why is it not on the list?" lmao True Family Feud
All it was missing was Mauler constantly mugging at the camera in disbelief.
Theo and Fringy work together so well, it was fun to watch their brains collaborate with such positive energy
@@pbradics3670 Rags came off as pretty condescending towards Brooks more than a few times. I would not want to be his teammate lol
@@comeatmebro8120 I mean, that was honestly kind of deserved. Sure, you had Muhammad Ali and Freddy Mercury as outliers, but everyone else on that list had nothing to do with popculture. Brooks and in a more limited fashion Dev kept trying to jump in with those suggestions. Brooks did give them the elusive number 9 with Marco Polo, and he figured out Che Guevara, but he came up with some absolute nonsense as well.
It’s really funny to see rags trying to carry the team, and seethe whenever he’s wrong
@@Arphemius I don’t think that’s a valid reason to be condescending to your teammate. But to be a bit more fair to Rags, Brooks was also being annoying with his whole “I told you guys (insert name) would be on the list, but nobody listened to me” attitude. So there’s blame to cast on both sides
rags was getting so pissy at the end lol
“I mean, if Jimmy Carter is on the list then maybe Taylor Swift is in on the list.”
Sick burn, Fringy 🤣
2:31:50
The gang forgot the Tolkien was also a professor in linguistics.
Quite a prolific one at that. People tend to forget he translated a bunch of stuff including Beowulf to modern English
@@Edward-WI didn't even know that until reading this very comment.
Ah yes the big three: Mohamed, Jesus, and Isaac Newton.
I think Theo summed it up best with, "I feel like I'm interacting with a black box, but in an enjoyable way." This was a fun episode, even though the list throws you so many curveballs that it's basically impossible to get it even after a while of playing the game. Although they could've run through more painters after they got the first one, they gave up on those too quickly.
I thought he said black box, and my brain couldn't figure out why he would say that, so i assumed he said Jack Box. Sometimes I hate being dumb.
Mayor Quimby: "I give you our 39th president... Jimmy Carter."
Crowd:
"Oh, come on."
"HE'S HISTORY'S GREATEST MONSTER!"
And then they commemorate Marge with the same statue with her hair crudely pasted on 🤣
MauLer - Congrats, you’ve won!
Team Grumbo - Yes! What do we win?
MauLer - Absolutely nothing!
Team Grumbo - ………….what?!
Should someone tell Rags that Constantine was number 101 on this list?
That's hilarious.
Lmao
🤣🤣
He's already endured too much already. We all have. Jimmy Carter mindbroke me.
Where is the list
Its pretty interesting how defeated Fringy sounded with the bad start, but at the end he is very happy when he was winning.
I bet if Rags was winning instead, he would have been the one being very happy about it.
Fringy and Rags are interestingly very similar people in that sense.
This was a lot of fun to watch. Between this and the trolley problem shenanigans on 250 it's been a nice to see you guys branch out to other things that work well with this format.
If I understood correctly, the number calculated all the languages available. Therefore having Putin there doesn't surprise me, since many European countries have written countless articles about him in many different languages. Same with lack of chinese guys, there just aren't as many different languages of people using wikipedia there, I think wikipedia is even banned in China specifically.
Jimmy Carter is still weird though.
Putin has also been quite relevant for a lot of politics and wars for the last 25 years and the time Wikipedia has existed and is the leader of the "remains" of the USSR.
I was surprised they didn't throw his name in there since if anyone alive were to be on that list it would probably be him.
Multiple wars in Ukraine, Georgia, Chechnya and has his hands in the middle east. Anything that happens in a former USSR country politically probably has something related to him and you can't write an article about European security or energy without it being related to Russia and he is the dictator on top.
Most presidents or equivalent is only relevant for 4 to 8 years but Putin has been at the top for 3-6x that and unlike western leaders who share powers and responsibilities (and thus spreads it out ) Putin keeps it all.
Dev: "Nobody does 69 in real life. It's way too much of a hassle."
Considering Dev and his girlfriend have a combined weight of 300kg, I don't doubt he feels that way.
And I still can't believe that neither Michael Jackson nor Elvis made the list, while Jimmy Carter is giving me this shit-eating grin from 93th place.
Tell us what you really think 😂😂😂
Oh I went full murica. Figured they were 150lbs each lol
ninety-thirth?
@@szeltovivarsydroxan9944 Bro turned into Mike Tyson for a second
Goddamn dude.
I’ll give you a name. F**king “Ballcrusher” cause you didn’t have to do him like that 😂
I think it would be worthwhile to get an assistant for a few of the tasks, such as keeping score, turn order, everything named, etc
Surprisingly fun content, would be glad to see more of this, maybe even structured around specifically EFAP content, such as Moviebob or Nawzee quiz or anything like that. Would be funny if Mauler's gameshows had more success than the Nostalgia Critic ones.
Or some additional preparation. Instead of doing the math in your head it would have been easier to have an Excel sheet. Put in the guessed name, the rank and have it automatically calculate the total score.
@@ShiroyWolfDefinitely agree this could have used some more careful prep from Mauler, but I think he figured that out pretty quickly and will do much better next time.
@@TheRealJabbergeist I disagree completely. The chaotic approach and lack of prep lend a certain charm and fun to proceedings. Too much polish and it loses something special. Like a Doctor Who episode - it's just more charming when the monsters fall apart at the seems but everyone's trying their best to make it work.
Mauler becoming Mike from RLm before he eventually grows up into Jogsaw. It’s like Infamous with alcoholic dementia and cancer
Ah yes. Jogsaw. _WOULD YOU LIKE TO TRACK AND FIELD?_
Jogsaw invited Colombo the explorer the play a game....
@@fabiof.8152 ruclips.net/video/O-ZdWoKXa4c/видео.html
I am not crazy! I know he swapped those numbers! I knew it was 101. One after Winston. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn't prove it. He - he covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the Wiki to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. Abraham Lincoln! Are you telling me he's not on the list!? No! He orchestrated it! Jimmy! He went against Ford! And I saved him! And I shouldn't have. I took him into my own party! What was I thinking? He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was 9, always the same! Couldn't keep his hands out of the cash drawer! But not our Jimmy! Couldn't be precious Jimmy! Stealing them blind! And he gets to be President!? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you - you have to stop him!
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A endless slough of world changing figures that couldn't crack the top 100. But freaking Jimmy Carter.
I cant believe Hitler was number 14. That is meme magic I tell you
What does 14 mean for Hitler? 14 million jews?
Why is 14 particularly meaningful in this context?
@holysecret2 if you didn't know, Hitler has a famous speech (part of) consisting of 14 words.
@@holysecret2the 14 words. It’s a racist meme.
When Jimmy Carter suddenly becomes a meme
Honestly, I wasn't surprised Carter was on the list because his term was a gigantic shitshow of domestic and international crises, plus all of his post-presidential stuff. JFK and FDR not being on the list blew my mind.
Jimmy Carter has always been a meme *
@@PanzerblitzRnR Blew JFK’s mind as well, same as Lincoln
@@nont18411damn mate 😂😂😂 cold as ice you are
@PanzerblitzRnR but that's why. The survey was composed of the good and bad of all digital literature on the subject. If it weren't, Hitler wouldn't be here.
^.-.^ more EFAP game shows!
glad you all enjoyed the Memes. Sorry the second one was not as finished, ran out of time. ^.-.^
Any art is always great rat Beuwen c:
Great rat indeed!
@@AimlessSavant
I feel like Jimmy Carter is going to live rent free in Fringy's head for the rest of his life lol
1:30:00 Gilgamesh was "real" we are pretty sure there was a King of Uruk named Gilgamesh who the epic is based on. But obviously the story isnt real.
Extremely fun episode.
When Mauler disclosed what the method of doing this list was that it picked the most referenced people on Wikipedia, and that it was across 14 Languages, it made all the sense to me that people like Abraham Lincoln didn't make it.
What was shocking to me was that Miguel de Cervantes didn't make it to the list.
Yeah, but he was completely wrong about that. I checked on the website and it's not anything like that.
"HPI [Human Popularity Index] is currently made of five components: the “age” of a biography’s character (e.g. Jesus is more than 2,000 years old), number of Wikipedia language editions in which the biography has a presence (L), the concentration of the pageviews received by a biography across languages (L*), the stability of pageviews over time (CV), and the number of non-English pageviews received by that biography. We find that combining these metrics provides a more sensible ranking than using these metrics alone."
It does not only use more than one factor, number of wikipedia references is not even one of them.
@@ArphemiusOof. I'm not surprised the contestants were constantly baffled. He should've just read the article to them.
Jimmy Carter is still the biggest lol of the stream 😂
@Arphemius the about section on Pantheon (the site the list is from), mentions your explanation below the one MauLer used. He read it directly from the site, so even if he did get it wrong (which I'm still not sure about, because both explanations are used, one is about Pantheon, one is about specifically the Historical Popularity Index), it's a very understandable mistake
This will definitely be one of my favorite EFAPs and I'm really looking forward fr something similar with fictional characters. This format let me be super engaged as I was searching through my own memory to think of some people that could be on this list :)
2:55 the way he says "I'm so sorry" is just so deadpan, it had be dying 🤣
I like how the list is so disconnected from people's instincts that even the people who score points are dissatisfied with being right.
This game is literally "everyone shitting on Jimmy Carter"
59:40 "The deader, the better" is one of those great out of context quotes.
Rags: i want to be on team grumbo
Mauler:....im so sorry....
That was pretty great
Knowing mauler , rags was probably supposed to be on that team 😂
@@johnmchugh8049Pretty sure the teams were already on the screen when he said that
@@HugoGojibiter never underestimate the long man
If number 1 isn't Tonald I'm rioting
Bilbo Baggins got completely shafted 😞
Jared should've been Top 5 at least! But anyways guys.....
Jimmy carter is on here but tonald isn’t!
More stuff like this. But general pub quiz style would be fine
I like the idea but this list was ass; hope to see em tackle different topics
The thing with Vasco da Gama is that, he is not just a explorer, but there is a football team here in Brazil who is named after him, word for word, Vasco da Gama, he is even in the anthem, so maybe that influenced the high number of results as Vasco da Gama is not only a big team here in Brazil but it's also a old team (the team was created in 1898)
Theo's joy when he said he was a RUclipsr was so wholesome! We're all proud of you Theo!
If im beinf honest, this is the first time ive heard the claim moses wasnt real. Even in my super liberal college, moses was acknowledged to be real, it was just his actions and the biblical events he was a part of that were challenged and questioned
Moses' historicity has always been questionable. The earliest references to him in any form are from about 500 years after his lifetime at the earliest, and there's debate to whether there is ANY historical basis to the events of the Exodus. It's entirely possible Moses, like Homer, is an amalgamation of a large number of religious and cultural figures tied together in handy narrative.
@TheNoonish that's really odd to me then cause like I said, in my liberal college, Moses was treated as a real individual.
Never heard his existance questioned either, not even by lefty atheist types.
He was almost certainly real. Cringe atheists just like to gaslight. Some even claim Jesus wasn't a real person, lol. There is better evidence for Jesus existing than Alexander the Great.
I'm pretty sure liberals just like to claim outlandish and subversive things to make them sound smart. They were trying to push that "Shakespeare wasn't a real person" thing for a while. It's been debunked, but many are still stubbornly clinging to that idea for some reason.
I'm about halfway done and intend to finish, but do any of them ever realize that Mauler said this list is based on ALL versions of wiki, not just the western versions? Tolkien made it clear. Think of how many languages his books are translated to. It's killing me that they haven't caught on yet 😂
Thank you for setting this up Mauler - really fun and would love to see you guys do more of this!
This is going on my top 5 EFAP episodes, nice work longman.
Dev showing off his land whale status saying no one does 69 in real life cause its a hassel. 😂😂😂
@awhellnah__Boogie moment
A real distasteful comment from him there, I cringed. Luckily the others largely ignored him.
I mean I kinda believe it’s less fun than it would seem because it’s kinda awkward if there’s a big height difference, but yeah knowing his name is “short fat otaku” I’m not surprised a position difficult for short or fat people isn’t his fav
@@AbysalssI never had problems due to the height difference and there is a 44cm difference between me and my gf.
I can believe weight could influence that a lot though.
I was so damn confident Hegel would be there considering how many whacky academics cite him...
JIMMY FREAKING CARTER?????
A new philistophertism has been created.
Percernecus
Columbo
2:17:37 Jimmy Carter list reveal.
I wonder how (and if) the info sweeper distinguished references to the prophet Mohammed from references to the millions of people named after him.
Oh, Mauler got the method of how the list was compiled completely wrong:
"HPI is currently made of five components: the “age” of a biography’s character (e.g. Jesus is more than 2,000 years old), number of Wikipedia language editions in which the biography has a presence (L), the concentration of the pageviews received by a biography across languages (L*), the stability of pageviews over time (CV), and the number of non-English pageviews received by that biography. We find that combining these metrics provides a more sensible ranking than using these metrics alone."
It really does not use total amount of Wikipedia references at all.
Whoever thinks this list was sensible in any way is insane
Thanks for allowing me to find the origin. Didn't get it from the title because I didn't actually expect it to be the name of the website lol
Unironically one of my favorite episodes so far, christ this episode was fun
There are a lot of takes from Dev that bewilder me. But the idea that adults do not 69 is the most delusional yet. How can anyone take anything he ever says again seriously?
He really lost all credibility with that one. His reputation is in shambles.
Of course, nobody would believe him on anything. As the rest of us are sex-knowers.
His name is short fat otaku and it’s a position that notably doesn’t work well if you’re short and awkward for fat people. So it’s like it was made against him
TeamFleem reigns supreme, but Grumbo class is best class
Timestamps
*_[PREAMBLE]_*
1:14 - Doug Walker's Pop Quiz Hotshot
2:42 - Introducing Team Fleem and Team Grumbo
5:23 - Inspiration for the game / What's the quiz about?
7:01 - Round 1: How to play? / The rules
11:52 - Who gets to start?
* * * * *
*_[ROUND 1]_*
Team Turns & Locked-in Guesses:
12:27 - Grumbo > [Jesus Christ]
13:31 - Fleem > [Adolf Hitler]
15:19 - Grumbo > [Abraham Lincoln]
18:53 - Fleem > [Prophet Muhammad]
19:28 - Grumbo > [Buddha]
22:26 - Fleem > [William Shakespeare]
23:28 - Grumbo > [George Washington]
24:55 - Fleem > [Queen Victoria]
27:10 - Grumbo > [Humphrey Bogart]
27:45 - Fleem > [Albert Einstein]
29:17 - Grumbo > [Isaac Newton]
30:31 - Fleem > [Leonardo Da Vinci]
32:03 - Grumbo > [Socrates]
32:52 - Fleem > [Charles Darwin]
34:05 - Grumbo > [Plato]
34:52 - Fleem > [Aristotle]
35:49 - Grumbo > [Johannes Gutenberg]
37:46 - Fleem > [Sigmund Freud]
40:20 - Grumbo > [Confucius]
42:03 - (!!!) Grumbo +62 points
44:12 - Fleem > [Sun Tzu]
45:25 - Grumbo > [Pythagoras]
46:12 - Fleem > [Julius Caesar]
47:39 - Grumbo > [Alexander the Great]
49:13 - Fleem > [Napoleon]
51:32 - Grumbo > [Genghis Khan]
53:44 - Fleem > [Joseph Stalin]
54:27 - Grumbo > [Paul the Apostle]
55:29 - Fleem > [Karl Marx]
56:35 - Grumbo > [Christopher Columbus]
57:44 - Fleem > [Martin Luther King Jr.]
59:58 - Grumbo > [Charlamagne]
1:00:47 - Fleem > [Vladimir Lennon]
1:02:37 - Grumbo > [Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart]
1:03:30 - Fleem > [Ludwig Van Beethoven]
1:04:38 - Grumbo > [Martin Luther]
1:05:37 - Fleem > [Mao Zedong]
1:07:36 - Grumbo > [Michelangelo]
1:08:00 - Fleem > [Stephen Hawking]
1:11:07 - Grumbo > [Euclid]
1:12:51 - Fleem > [George Washington]
1:15:13 - Grumbo > [Galileo Galilei]
1:15:48 - Fleem > [Copernicus]
1:18:02 - Grumbo > [Thomas Edison]
1:20:17 - (!!!) George Washington was already guessed
1:21:32 - Team Fleem get 2 guesses > [Archimedes] [Nikola Tesla]
1:23:16 - Grumbo > [Niccolo Machiavelli]
1:24:38 - Fleem > [Cleopatra]
1:25:16 - Grumbo > [Rene Descartes]
1:26:27 - Fleem > [Constantine]
1:29:33 - Grumbo > [Augustus]
1:30:13 - Fleem > [Marcus Aurelius]
1:31:25 - Grumbo > [Homer]
1:35:52 - Fleem > [Thomas Aquinas]
* * * * *
*_[ROUND 2]_*
1:38:50 - How to play? / The rules
1:40:26 - Grumbo - [Elizabeth I] > {67}
1:42:33 - Fleem - [Alfred Nobel] > {87}
1:46:28 - Grumbo - [Mustafa Kemal Ataturk] > {90}
1:48:42 - Fleem - [Adam Smith] > {90}
1:50:52 - Grumbo - [Thales of Miletus] > {83}
1:52:11 - Fleem - [Avicenna] > {85}
1:54:26 - Grumbo - [Louis XIV] > {57}
1:56:02 - Fleem - [Jean-Jacques Rousseau] > {69}
1:58:41 - Grumbo - [David] > {28}
2:02:41 - Fleem - [Frederic Chopin] > {53}
2:07:40 - Dev claims doing 69s is too much hassle
2:08:01 - Grumbo - [Tamerlane the Conqueror] > {75}
2:09:27 - Fleem - [Herodotus] > {49}
* * * * *
*_[ROUND 3]_*
2:12:56 - How to play? / Instructions
2:14:11 - Stephen King
2:15:08 - James Cook
2:15:58 - Carl Linnaeus
2:16:31 - Lance Armstrong
2:17:04 - Jimmy Carter
2:18:53 - Lewis Carroll
2:20:15 - Thomas Jefferson
2:21:46 - Muhammad Ali
2:22:50 - Blaise Pascal
* * * * *
*_[ROUND 4]_*
2:23:48 - How to play? / Instructions
2:24:12 - Grumbo: [George Orwell, Mary, Mother of Joseph, Taylor Swift]
2:27:00 - Fleem: [Jane Austen, Stephen Spielberg, John Locke]
2:28:50 - Grumbo: [Margaret Thatcher, Mark Twain, J.R.R. Tolkien]
2:32:34 - Fleem: [Arnold Schwarzenegger, Antonie Van Leeuwenhoek, Elizabeth II]
2:36:15 - Grumbo: [Hellen Keller, Tom Cruise, Augustine of Hippo]
2:37:13 - Fleem: [Norm Macdonald, J.K. Rowling, Nelson Mandela]
2:38:38 - Grumbo: [Stanley Kubrick, Saladin, Jane Robert Oppenheimer]
2:39:20 - Fleem: [PewDiePie, Alfred Hitchcock, Freddie Mercury]
* * * * *
*_[ROUND 5]_*
2:41:04 - How to play? / Instructions
2:42:22 - Grumbo > [Moses]
2:45:09 - Fleem > [Michael Jackson]
2:49:51 - Grumbo > [John Calvin]
2:50:29 - Fleem > [Winston Churchill]
2:50:59 - Grumbo > [Nietzsche]
2:52:01 - Fleem > [Henry VIII]
2:52:45 - Grumbo > [Francis Drake]
2:54:04 - Fleem > [Marie Curie]
2:55:45 - Grumbo > [Johannes Bach]
2:58:12 - Fleem > [Joan of Arc]
2:59:41 - Grumbo > [Mahatma Gandhi]
3:00:49 - Fleem > [Agatha Christie]
3:02:24 - Grumbo > [Voltaire]
3:03:26 - Fleem > [Marco Polo]
3:05:58 - Grumbo > [Immanual Kant]
3:07:25 - Fleem > [Henry Ford]
3:09:07 - Grumbo > [Dante]
3:10:03 - Fleem > [John Paul II]
3:12:21 - Grumbo > [Dostoevsky]
3:15:49 - Fleem > [Vlad the Impaler]
3:17:38 - Grumbo > [Neil Armstrong]
3:18:41 - Fleem > [Louis XVI]
3:19:16 - Grumbo > [Alexander Graham Bell]
3:19:35 - Fleem > [Walt Disney]
3:20:02 - Grumbo > [Ben Franklin]
3:20:31 - Fleem > [Alan Turing]
3:22:18 - Grumbo > [Sirius]
3:26:01 - Fleem > [Epicurus]
3:27:10 - Grumbo > [Hegel]
3:28:07 - Fleem > [Elvis Presley]
3:29:14 - Grumbo > [Richard Wagner]
3:30:07 - Fleem > [Tchaikovsky]
3:32:18 - Grumbo > [Goethe]
3:34:27 - Fleem > [Marie Antoinette]
3:35:28 - Grumbo > [Amelia Earhart]
3:36:09 - Fleem > [Hammurabi]
3:37:16 - Grumbo > [Vincent Van Gogh]
3:37:49 - Fleem > [Picasso]
3:38:37 - Grumbo > [John F Kennedy]
3:40:16 - Fleem > [Bruce Lee]
3:42:09 - Grumbo > [Attila the Hun]
3:42:57 - Fleem > [Franklin Roosevelt]
* * * * *
*_[ROUND 6]_*
3:46:44 - How to play? / Instructions
3:48:10 - Grumbo - [Raphael] > {75}
3:52:31 - Fleem - [Abraham] > {48}
3:54:23 - Grumbo - [Vladimir Putin] > {88}
3:57:38 - Fleem - [Rembrandt] > {43-53}
3:59:41 - Grumbo - [St. Peter]> {43-53}
4:01:47 - Fleem - [Ferdinand Magellan] > {80-90}
4:05:21 - Grumbo - [Han Christian Anderson] > {80-90}
4:06:43 - Fleem - [Francis Bacon] > {42-52}
4:08:34 - Grumbo (Fleem?) - [Suleiman the Magnificent] > {40-50}
4:10:24 - Grumbo - [Pope Francis] > {75-85}
4:12:26 - Fleem - [Vivaldi] > {83-93}
4:15:52 - Grumbo - [Louis Pasteur] > {75-85}
4:17:20 - Fleem - [Vasco Da Gama] > {40-50}
4:20:25 - Grumbo - [Kepler] > {75-85}
4:22:15 - Fleem - [John the Baptist] > {75-85}
4:23:23 - Grumbo - [Solomon] > {71}
4:26:59 - Fleem - [Che Guevara] > {43}
4:29:57 - Grumbo - [Carl Friedrich Gauss] > {83}, [Hippocrates] > {79}
* * * * *
*_[ENDGAME AFTERPARTY]_*
4:32:13 - _Start_
4:42:33 - Guessing Top 50 RUclipsrs
5:03:19 - A new quiz with fictional characters?
5:05:50 - What's going on with the guests?
5:08:52 - Memes
5:12:03 - Memes (cont.) / Closing
Recovering from a bad injury. Thanks for letting me scream historical figures at my tablet. I wish I'd come across this game with friends before.
I am legit shocked that Fringles doesn't know who Rembrandt is...
I was incredibly surprised that he and Theo didn’t know him. With the amazing display of knowledge they gave us, it really is crazy.
The trick is to not think of popularity, but the amount of references to the individual. How many times will their work be translated, built on, or referenced? How far did their influence reach?
Poor Rags. His team kept forgetting that and knocking down his ideas. It felt very demoralizing just to watch.
That strategy worked very poorly actually. Victoria, despite being an extremely well referenced individual, wasn't on the list. Rags rigidly sticking to that line of thinking made him the LVP of his team.
@@bigwinz But there a long time in the middle where they didn't have this as top priority.
@bigwinz not saying there weren't flukes. Victoria was an odd one to be missing. But generally, the Fleems kept overwriting Rags ideas for popular people they knew despite their influence not being very broad.
This was alot of fun
Hopefully we get some more
I feel like it could be interesting to invert the way points are given so that the easy picks at the top of lists like this are less rewarding than digging deep to try and hit some of the ones lower down, but it's a fun format either way.
Mauler created an insane game to avoid making a new video.
Wonderful.
MauLer’s like Jigsaw, because he tortures people with games.
Fringy's sudden and aggressive insistence on Humphrey Bogart, just due to sheer confusion and anger over quickly realising the absurdity of this list, is pure comedy gold 🤣
"All three of my monitors are stuffed full of stuff"
Do YoU gUyS noT hAvE phonES?
I like how EFAP is slowly turning into Q.I.
I would love to watch an episode of EFAP in the style of Q.I.
all they would need is their own version of the Claxon for general ignorance
the list is factually wrong. In actuality Mohamed was soundly beaten by The Don
At one point, were it possible, Ragsss' would've went for Brook's jugular.
Rags was super salty in this one
They were both cringe in this one, but rags really needs to be better.
There's been no one to curb Rag's worst tendencies. Even in regular EFAPs, he's made a habit of taking the show to a screeching halt just to make a stupid joke, especially when he hasn't heard his own voice in 10 minutes.
Does anyone else think that the more obscure of the list should be worth more points? I mean, guessing Jesus seems easier then guessing Gutemberg
Good point, but I'm not sure how that could be fairly implemented. What's obscure to one team might be obvious to another.
@@TheRealJabbergeist What I mean is like, instead of Jesus being worth 97 points and Churchill 1, Churchill should be worth 100 and Jesus 3, make the amount of points proportional to the placement, instead of inversely proportional
That way you have a objective measure of obscurity
Given how much of a fucking curveball this list is I think it’s fine just trying to guess most referenced.
Midway through the video, so far I liked round 1 much better, as it was (mostly) points earned with knowledge and smart and strategical picks. Round 2 seems like random guesswork. It's fun and practical to have some of the lesser known entries revealed, but I wish there was a better way. But let's see where this is going
It’s so funny when someone asks between two wrong pronunciations of Van Gogh.
I'm going to be honest, the QI buzzer kept playing in my mind through that.
This would be pretty cool if it was "the moat referenced EFAP memes" though i have no idea how that'd even be collated
If the starting point is wikipedia, wikipedia is going to axe a lot of information if it upsets an established narrative. If wiki allowed a significant portion of what Abraham Lincoln actually did it would very much damage the rose colored glasses through which we're "supposed" to view the great emancipator. So yeah, it's curated, keep that in mind.
Do one of these every 3 months and make it mandatory that Brooks and Rags are in the same team for every episode.
The explorers like Vasco da Gama and Magellan deserve more respect than what was given by the EFAP crew >: Also i can see why Che Guevara is on the list because he was very influential in South America, Wikipedia is global after all, so Mr Washigton and Honest Abe aren't enough for this list if imagine. The CCP don't want their papa Mao's dirty laundries exposed to the world so i assume is why he's not on the list.
As a descendant of Cubans and Peruvians, Che Guevara, The Butcher, definitely belongs on this list for all the wrong reasons.
Che Guevara has done so much criminal shit across many countries in South America that it makes perfect sense that he has many references across many articles. (Specially the about gay discrimination).
@@gibbonsplays8706true, he should have liberated Mexico, too
I haven't progressed far into this episode yet, but to guess Lincoln, Washington, and Bogart directly after Jesus and amongst the first five or six attempts proves they didn't consider the world beyond the USA and maybe Western Europe, at least initially.
@@detectivejuice711390% of the list is some flavor of European so that's not exactly surprising. Especially considering that even in multiple languages, Europe and the US have had an extremely disproportionate influence on world history.
Never thought I'd thoroughly enjoy something like this.
Well done, lads!
Poor Brooks. Felt like his team ignored him half the game despite some of his guesses being at the top. Fringy and Theo was a powerhouse though. Probably didn't matter.
Bro was his teams worst asset. Literally just giving good answers away for no reason and then fighting for bad ones. Dude just needed to keep his mouth shut a little more.
@@dyllwillbrooks literally said che guevara and was laughed at lmao
Alright for those of you wondering, the hypothesis I have and think is 100% correct is that the AI didn't count references from other books and sources outside of Wikipedia. I believe it counted the references back to the Wikipedia page of said figure on other Wikipedia pages (aka those blue hyperlink texts). This would explain why Sun Tzu isn't on the list because he doesn't have as many battles as Alexander the Great or Napoleon who have long campaigns with many battles, each with their own Wikipedia page giving more chances of having hyperlinks back to their pages. Sun Tzu also wasn't in as many historical events as Hitler, Alexander, Napoleon, Elisabeth II, Cleopatra, etc. Which again more events that have their own pages would increase the chances of hyperlinks. And yes Sun Tzu made "The Art of War" which does get referenced a lot but it has its own Wikipedia page so all those references don't get given to Sun Tzu by proxy.
This theory would also explain why Euclid isn't on the list because his "Euclidian Geometry" page gets referenced more than Euclid himself. The other mathematicians that appear on the list so far at 3:41:41 are Archimedes and Pascal. Both of which aren't just mathematicians, unlike Euclid; but are also Physicists, Archimedes is also an engineer, astronomer and inventor, meanwhile Pascal is a philosopher and catholic writer.
Also explains why Martin Luther King Jr isn't on the list but Nelson Mandela is. It explains why Abraham Lincoln isn't on the list since he wasn't a general and wasn't part of many individual historical events. Doesn't explain why George Washington isn't on the list since he was a general in many battles and present for historical events, maybe he just got drowned out by others. And I don't have enough context as a non-American to understand why Jimmy Carter is there but perhaps it makes more sense now. The presence of Artists (Painter, writer or Musicians) explain themselves by how big their catalogs are (Shakespeare) or how influential in different events and movements their works were (Voltaire) or how foundational to their Domain their works are (Shakespeare, Bach, Mozart). Religious figures explain themselves and foundational Scientists, Philosophers and Inventors as well.
Hour and half in so far, has Jon actually said anything? Seems like Theo and Fringy are playing as a duo
It's true, I was terrible here. Apologies.
@@jcjgraham no need to apologise, I think Theo and Fringy just got into a groove. To be fair to all of you, you’re all the first people to play this and you had to play live lol. Was a lot of fun to listen to, I was yelling answers out the whole time. Hope to see another one.
@awhellnah__he asked a legit question, Jon responded, asker is also not malicious. Only idiot here is you
Rags and Brooks together made for some epic cringe. It reminded of the AGDQ "I would prefer you be quiet" guy. It was on that level.
Can't blame rags here, pretty sure everyone wanted Brooks to shut up at one point or another.
Yeah I was getting annoyed with Brooks too, just because he'd constantly through names for team Grumbo to scoop them up.
@taylorcrawford4387 That and the constant badgering for them to use his guess instead. His guesses were good sometimes but the way he went abt it made it so that it was awkward either way. Also, the way he'd say "Uh Hello..." was so childish. Overall just would have been a much better experience if it was a 2v2 with Rags and Dev vs Fringy and Theo. Nothing against Jon, I love when he's on the pod but he really didn't add anything for the quiz. It was just Fringy and Theo on their team, with Brooks playing for both teams 😅
@@dyllwill Yeah Jon seemed like he was out of his element and I really hope he'll be more comfortable to talk more whenever he's on again. Nothing against him, I actually didn't mind him not saying much since Fringy and Theo were great together.
@@taylorcrawford4387 Agreed. And absolutely! Fringy and Theo were definitely the highlight.
Now, if YMS was around he could play the recorder to convey clues to teams
An EFAP for the ages!
Age between ages
And there wasn't even less going on!
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
Rags talking about religion reminds me of Grace Randolph talking about Mario
Yeah I really love rags'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s but any time it comes up he radiates "edgy teenager-GODS NOT REAL MOOOOOOM" energy. We get it, you're an atheist.
@ChiefCrewin same, I think he's funny and has good points
but similar to politics, I'm not here for theological opinions
@awhellnah__he’s bi but ok
@awhellnah__he’s bi, and also that’s a pretty uninformed opinion on religion
Wtf? He literally grew up as a Catholic!
I'm coming to this late days later. But I was saying 'Elizabeth 1st of England' from almost the beginning of the stream, and at 1hr 40 Mauler said that she was on the list.
No one pulling Moses in the first 3 draws, right in the Jewish :(
No, but you see, there’s no archeological evidence for this person. As we all know, ancient empires like Egypt are famous for writing about times that they were embarrassed and defeated. And of course, the Dead Sea Scrolls would not at all point to the reliability of the Torah despite the fact that we would absolutely consider them historical evidence if we did not already know they were connected to the Bible
Theo is becoming one of my favourite EFAP guests, after this episode and the ultimate battle episode!
THIS WAS THE MOST FUN FUNNY AND FANTASTIC, please do another gameshow guesser! At the very least annually!
That was SO much fun. Most enjoyable EFAP in a long time. Thanks for hanging in there, guys. The list was fascinating and so maddening.
at about 2 hours, I started thinking to myself "hammurabai is on this list, when does he get revealed?" i must watch the rest to find out!
also 2:42:20 i see you in chat robert torch!
at 3:14:00 im also thinking of another "shoe in" name, that being peter the great.
3:36:48 finally someone said hammurabai! but hes not on the list? WHAAAAT?
For what its worth, Mauler did not accurately describe the metric used to generate this list. It is an ad hoc index called 'Historical Popularity Index', which is based on how long ago the person was alive, the number of languages on Wikipedia in which they have a page, and the number of pageviews they receive on Wikipedia. This I think explains a lot about some of the strange inclusions and exclusions. Also note that the rankings can change dramatically from year to year based on pageviews. For instance, Cleopatra went from 300s in 2020 up to 48 in 2022, presumably because of the dumb 'documentary' that came out.
Dev is too much of a Canadian to win.
I am baffled beyond belief that Euler was both not mentioned, and that he wasn't on the list. He is, aside from Newton or *maybe* Gauss, the most influential mathematician ever born.
Yeah Adam Smith, they should have known he was higher. Rags never having heard of him is kind of insane.
I like how Fringy tried to say Sekiro correctly by rolling the r, but still got the i wrong lol.
Congrats to Moses and Hilter for getting meaningful numeric ranks. (typo intentional to get around filters)
These are the kinds of debate EFAPs we need
It's hilarious that all seven of them were wrong about not guessing Washington already, it was their second guess before Buddha. Well 6 of them, because the guy on the left was actually right, although not certain enough of it.
I have to give credit to @Luke Sampson who says: "Still not on the list? I'm stunned."
That's great.
Not that I mean this to the boys in general, but I do want to use this moment to remind people, a lot of the time, when people are the most confident is when they are wrong. So don't be fooled by confidence alone.
i didnt remember them saying Washington so i just went back to the start of the video and Lincoln was their second guess right before Buddha, but they did throw out Washington as a “fuck it i dont understand this list” guess on their 4th turn which i completely forgot about, just goes to show none of us really know what the fuck happened because it’s hard to remember everything everyone said after several hours of hearing them say other shit lol
@@ClobberingSocks Oh, sorry, I meant second president pick after Lincoln, although I did think it came one after another, but turns out Buddha and Muhammad were said between the two, so I was wrong along with wording it weird.
Yeah it's hard to remember, but you would think you would remember what you locked in, especially when that formed your opinion so hard on Presidents and they weren't in that deep yet, and they were so sure too which makes it ironically funny
(that's actually does count as irony believe it or not - it's the disconnect from the audience and the participants - don't know if many people know about that).
Also it helped make them go into the negatives too.
@@ClobberingSocks Dude, I am so sleepy, you won't believe how many spelling mistakes I made in that.
Mauler should do this again with movie characters and another for game characters.
Theo didn't know who Rembrandt is!? My god...dude...I might have to confiscate your "smartman" loiscence...
about 4 and a half hours in, Theo said something really interesting...did Fringy finally play SOMA?
He sure did, streamed the whole thing. VoDs can be found on his Cosmoronic channel on RUclips
@@Theottreeoh man! Finally! Thanks for the heads up
I dont know why the cast were so surprised at Ghengis Khan at 4. If i were to pick a list of most influential historical figures, he'd be top 3. Who the fuck is Sun Tsu compared to the Khan? Who is Adolf Hitler to the Khan? For every reason Julius Ceasar and Napoleon are on this list, the Khan would be ×10. Every land he touched would reference him. Everything the Mongol Empire (the largest land empire ever) did or had a hand in would reference back to him.
@slawaboga1433 not trying to be a superfan, it's just super odd to me that Ghengis Khan at #4 got a reaction like that from the cast. They were surprised he was there over Sun Tsu, Sun Tsu is a footnote compared to the Khan. Objectively, Ghengis Khan is one of the most influential historical figures. I guess they just kinda forgot or have a weird blind spot on the Mongol Empire.
Why even bother trying to be a great person. You're just going to get out done by Jimmy Carter.
Certainly Bidens attitude
Carter threw everything out the window.