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Maaan I'd love to watch this video but almost 2 hours. I can't spend that much time. I understand it may take that long to go through it all in depth but maybe make clips or something. You could have another channel for clips and increase your revenue. Just a thought.
You were waaay too polite to "drunk uncle" (SNL joke...) Randall Carlson. I appreciate your restraint. You are a good communicator even when claims are just plain silly. I fail to see the purpose of Randall's nonsense... Is it books and speeches? Does ''silly'' really gather the kind of audience to turn a profit? Odd.
He’s making bank. Rogan has such huge reach there’s no way he ain’t. My guess is trust the von dannikans and all the others eventually realize it’s bullshit but by then it’s their job. If I was getting rich looking for Bigfoot I’d probably keep looking no matter what I knew
The odds don't matter for a coincidence if you're working backwards. As Terry Pratchett said, "Magicians have calculated that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten."
@@Padraigp in a way, it is how probability works, because probability is an averaging of everything we understand about a system. however, there is evidence that what happens in the universe happens because, even though we have a probability a state is in, there is only one logical next state for that system (or the universe, where each state is distinguished by the constant, minimum difference between states, i.e. the fastest constant to continue occurring at the smallest scale) given the states that came before it. since we cannot know every aspect of every state of a system in real time, we can only know a probability of a given next state occurring. if our brains contained all of our current abilities plus a perfect one-to-one simulation of the universe, theoretically, we could find perfect sync with the universe, if it is deterministic, in which case, when something happens it, from a universal standpoint, always had a 100% chance of occurring, because it was the only thing that could happen, given the previous state of the universe. its like if a confined system has 2 compartments, 1 with water on top, and 1 empty on the bottom, and you poke a hole between the 2, without an unexpected input on that system, there is a 100% chance that water will fall to the lower chamber. but in reality, something you didn't expect could happen, so thats a non-zero chance, so there's a probability - but only because there are infinite arbitrary systems that can exert change on your system. but, if the universe is the largest system possible, if there is no system outside the universe possibly exerting information or force upon it, then theoretically you could come to a perfect understanding of each state of the universe, and know the only logical next one, because you'd know the movement of every particle, from which you surmise particle, atom, and molecular state of the universe, all the way up to the singular unified state of thw universe itself, and save the laws of physics ceasing to exist, the universe as we know it is just as likely to be deterministic as not. so, from what we know, something happens, and theres a 50% chance that there was a 100%. of chance of happening, or a 50% chance there was an (insert probability) of it happening, but only from an unachievable, universal, realtime and constant understanding. but you are right, thats not how probability works, but probability is an average of known aspects of known states. in a way, its possible you are both right, just from different perspectives, and even if a universe is deterministic, its a copout to understand it as that for probabilities sake, because we cannot perfectly simulate the universe without something the size of the universe, but itd have to be larger than the universe to include appartus for communication, and nothing larger than the universe can exist in the universe lol also we cannot take information in simultaenous with its occurence for a single particle, because those particles cannot have no energy for us to observe them, then return to their pervious state of energy without the entire universe effectively thermalizing, assuming we could even bring any single particle to absolute zero. guess we'll only ever have a probability of likelihood for anything, regardless of whether it was, is, or will be a single state at anytime dependent on that which came before it. its almost like reading a sentence - u cant imagine the world the sentence is painting before you finish reading the sentence, but once you've finished the sentence, it helps you formulate the world it portrays. when you're at a specific word, any word could follow for all you know, some more likely than others, but once you get there, it was only ever the one word that always followed the word you were on, you just didn't know because you are directionally constrained by time. but if there is a tesseract of time, that is, if it can be traversed in any direction in a higher dimension, the next second in time after the one you are currently experiencing would be the only possible one - unless the tesseract of time could "change" "shape" - which could be why someone yells at you but remembers in their bones that it was you who yelled at them? pretty cool, but all theoretical, and unhelpful in any human application, because of how we experience time
Thank you for taking the time to respond to our questions. I am a bit confused by something that WoA said. Isn't the radius of an object measured from the center to the outer circumference? The radius of earth is 3,963 miles but WoA says some crazy number in the 400k + range. 52:23 ish minutes into the video. Did i miss something?
@@NORTH02Oh I'm fully aware. I watch all your stuff lol. But I think you would make a great detailed video on the subject. You're well researched and your video quality is excellent. Nevertheless for every video like Doc made here there's 10,000 Randall Carlsons and Graham Hancock videos. The more credible people touching on the subject the better. Plus you know it would be fun lol.
That and why the fuck is it that fucking big?? Couldnt you use the same formula, but make it smaller? In this theory, he proposes that they are amazingly precise but somehow they’re always either off or kind of off 😂
Did you check his works cited on the claim that the Giza complex was completely flooded for thousands of years? Because his works cited doesn’t say that at all lol
If the Sphinx had writing all over it as recently as 900 ad and its gone now seems more like an argument for a quickly-disintegrating sculpture than an everlasting one
As noted by others Egyptian sites were cannibalized in the 14th and 19th Centuries as I recall for their stone - specifically any white Tura limestone casing stones etc.. These were stolen so as to build other things like forts and Mosques around Egypt. The grand Mosques of Cairo as an example were built from limestone taken from Giza. p.s. - this was not limited to above as the Egyptians themselves and others also sometimes stole stone from ancient sites to repurpose it for something. Djedefre's Pyramid at Abu Rawash as an example saw its' granite blocks stolen during Roman times.
The most interesting part for me was learning about the *seked* , and the *cubit* being subdivided into seven *palms* . Much more interesting than those fantastical claims about "sacred numbers" Real scholars are actually very curious and always working to expand our knowledge.
What's your problem dude? You don't feel the trans-conscious gaia vibes from the arbitrary contrived number rubbish that means something something whatever?
Strange how all the conspiracy theorists bang on about the amazing achievements of the Egyptians but never have any interest in the engineering practices that made them possible
We can actually summarize this to a couple of points without getting into mathematical details: - Randall Carlson used Feet to measure lengths and compared this numbers, a unit that was not known to the Egyptians back then .. and not even used by Egyptians today!! - Randall Carlson used hours, minutes and seconds which again was not a known units back then!! - Randall Carlson depended on some weird divisions and other math operations to make the numbers match which won't prove anything because of 1 and 2.
Thank you! This is actually very helpful when sparring with a Roganite. Using feet was a huge red flag to all the non-Americans watching this, I imagine. Those of us like myself who are stateside idiots didnt connect that initially.
@@MidoSonOfKemeti don’t know about carlsons but it does not matter the length system, what matters are the propprtions. What you are saying is the same as knowing how to add oramges but not apples as a 5 years old child learning the basic operations.
Ohh - My Monitors are magical. LG and Viewsonic are preserving knowledge of . . . ummm . . . the Earths radius.? For future generations 1080p, 1440p, 2160p. . . P must be for the planet.
1080 ÷ 60 is 18 18 × 20 is 360 360 is 12 lunar months or one lunar year This proves the resolution of your monitor was based on sacred geometry, probably made with blueprints from an ancient world wide civilization, but they are hiding it from us!
@SD2001-p8q Because people who have education in disciplines such as history, archeology, engineering and Egyptology take a multidisciplinary approach to studying the pyramids. Randall Carlson doesn't.
@lisukeholifield3649 you machine by feet to 3 decimal points do you...sure you do. Maybe reread it and think about that for a while... then delete your comment
@@lisukeholifield3649no machinist does anything by feet to multiple decimal points. If you’re machining to class tolerances you’re not using feet at all, it’s going to be metric.
@@Tucker93669 Agreed, my research is showing that it was tropical between 20,000- 10,000 years ago. Did not find anything saying it was completely flooded... What we do know is that there was a long period of time, that it took on water damage and it could not have been in the last 5,500 years because their was no such rail fall to create that kind of deterioration.
I'm under the Impression that there is a quite visible "evolution" of pyramids that shows a trial and error process with the goal of building a real big pile of rocks that does not collapse into itself
Correct. People tried it, didn't work, they wrote it down, tried something else, worked better, wrote it down, tweaked it. Then THAT worked. Write it down. Do it again. You now, how all human endeavor has worked. Period.
The unfinished Ryugyong Hotel in Pyongyang are formed as a pyramid of the same reason. Sourcing high quality materials in North Korea forced such a design.
Only if you go by evidence and observation. You’re supposed to go by what loosely fits the conclusions you started with, the ones that will sell your books and speaking engagement tickets at looney conventions. With that in mind, clearly the aliens/Atlanteans made the really good ones, and then humans gradually made shittier and shittier ones as time passes and we _forgot how to make them_ (This is really one of their arguments. 🤦)
You got no rteal knowledge to the matter i see. The oldest ones, are the ones that are stand still, so there dor, there is no evolution, Plus after the great pyramids that are still stand, you got to undertand that pyramind after thatm were poorly constructed in the inside, but they would probably had a well cut granite or andesite, or other kinds of stone, that were probably removed, to build the next one, fromt the next pharao, or other cultures that invade egypt to their own constructions, like happens with the great pyramid, and all around.
Really? Americans built something similar into one of their massive dams, showing how the stars were aligned, so future civilisations could know the date the dam was built. It was an encoded msg? So it shouldn’t be that hard to believe that other civilisations have done it. So unsure why it had you cracking up, when we have done exactly the same
Honestly, I tuned out of your channel about a year ago because I was getting frustrated waiting for you to finally cover the two biggest names in this whole game - Randal and Graham. I'm pleasantly surprised to come back to your channel and find that over the past 9 months you have indeed began to cover a lot of what they say, in depth. I'm really enjoying these well thought out responses. I would gladly listen to your take on every single topic they cover.
The stuff they say is so stupid and lengthy that any academic doesn’t have the time to comb through the stupidity and set the record straight. I’m happy people are doing it but it’s probably falling on deaf ears due to podcast listeners that number in the millions.
Exactly. Looking at them one by one in detail is an interesting look into folly, but better to name and shame the worst of them in one go so that people know who to watch out for.
@@yaldabaoth2 some do. And these videos are important for the people who might be falling down and don't really have the means to be able to interpret the constant nonsense they're being exposed to, it gives them a lifeline before they become a dribbling pseudoscience fan. This is good work and it does help.
@@yaldabaoth2 some do. I loved the alt stuff, but once I actually started learning about these civilizations, I realized I was misguided and wrong, and realizing how many of these pseudohistory characters are frauds. Not everyone is open to accepting being wrong, though. It's quite odd.
As a physicist, I really enjoy this “myth busting” series. Thank you for this content! The only drawback is the after watching one or two of yours YT assumes I am very much into the pseudo-science you bust and floods me with this nonsense 😂
Have you ever read the paper that was published in the journal of applied physics a few years back about Giza? I cant remember the name of the paper or the author but from my very limited understanding of physics it seems that their little computer model shows that the Giza complex might have been built in that manipulates radiowaves in some way. I know its just a computer model but if it can be shown to be an intrinsic feature of the pyramid itself wouldnt that kind of throw a wrench into the idea this stuff is nonsense? I cant imagine a way in which that happens by accident.
the name of the paper is "Electromagnetic properties of the Great Pyramid: First multipole resonances and energy concentration". I only understand how to program computers so this sort of applied phyiscs is well beyond my knowledge. I got no idea what most of that paper is even talking about but I never here anyone talking about it or trying to explain it. Maybe its a bad paper that shouldnt have been publish I dunno
@iraniansuperhacker4382 I actually just looked this paper up. It costs USD40 to read. I didn't read it, but the abstract sounds like they're just bouncing some radio (or radar) off stuff. Lots of stuff reflects and scatters radio waves... like mountains, and planets, the moon, etc.
For those who are interested on ACTUAL measurements of the Earth's size done in Ancient times, the earliest one recorded was made by the Greek-Egyptian researcher Eratosthenes during the 3rd Century BCE. And it was quite accurate for its time, as well. The documentary Cosmos (by Carl Sagan) made a piece about him back a few decades ago: ruclips.net/video/G8cbIWMv0rI/видео.html
This is always one of my favorite types of videos you make. I don't think I had ever heard of this guy before your previous video about him. If I had, i don't recall him like I do some others for whatever reason. What burns me up the most is when they just casually leave out known information because they know most people watching them don't know what they are leaving out. Thanks for a great job as always.
🤭 IKR. When LAHT prattles on about _"thousands of an inch"_ or whatever that becomes farcical on its' face as such metrics as you noted did not even exist at the time. What we see while in the case of buildings might have followed some level of planned dimensional outcome whereas others were often a result of aesthetics and the style of the time. I'm sure an Egyptian potter as an example did not create a vase based upon anything more than achieving a certain look consistent with said style. Most of the "precision" LAHT rattles on about is of course = illusory.......
Right? Here's another one, "the sphinx is aligned to the Leo constellation and is 10,000 years old". The Egyptians didn't use astrology until the hellinic period, about 280bc. So, their hypothesis is that the Egyptians aligned the sphinx and pyramids to things they wouldn't use for another 9,000 years? They had a lot of forethought, apparently. Lol. "The king says we gotta align this thing to leo".... "wtf is a leo?".... "who fucking knows. Just start stacking rocks".😅
@@DrSpoculus Use, recognition and display of constellations as we more or less recognize today go way back to stone age cave art in France. There is a lot of evidence for recognition of the constellations before the times of the Greeks and Babylonians. For a culture which main spiritual obsession was with the mystery of death and afterlife for thousands of years with a wealth of astronomical symbolism and observation it is quite irresponsible to dismiss outright the knowledge of the zodiacal cycle and constellations of early dynastic Egypt. Always remember we have lost our cosmic perspective in our modern light-polluted and fast-paced world. Our world-view has changed dramatically from our ancestors, and probably not for the better. Keep an reasoning open mind, it is a very important but scare ability in archeaology and history. Statement's such as ''The Egyptians didn't use astrology until the hellinic period, about 280bc.'' are non-productive and lead to dead-end conclusions and hinder progress in our understanding of the past. I make no statements regarding the work of Randall Carlson, but I do recognize the rot in our current scientific thinking regarding our ancestors and their capabilities, and the conclusions being made upon very fragmentary and incomplete datasets as if they were authoritative end-of-discussion mandates.
@SD2001-p8q They make it harder for this mystery ancient civilization to exist the more they try to prove it exists. Now, the civilization needs advanced units of measurement to explain this. Another hoop to jump through to prove they existed. The more things they try to explain as an advanced civilization, the more advanced the civilization now has to be now. To cut granite they need lasers, apparently. So now they have to be advanced enough to have laser tech. Another hoop they have to jump through. The more they try to explain with "lost ancient advanced technology", the less likely it becomes.
47:00 we are supposed to be in a time of darkness and ignorance. We actually live in the only time in human history where we are both figuratively and literally bathed in the light at the flick of a switch, and when all of human knowledge can be accessed in a nanosecond. I think the Vayu Purana got things a little wrong...
@@toucheturtle3840 No it can't do you even know how short a nanosecond is? Even the most destructive possible event like a close by supernova would take at least a few seconds to wipe out life on Earth.
Thank you David Miano and Kaitlyn Burnell for the information! I used to read Randall Carlson's Books, as well as Graham Hancock's books, and I had the wool fully pulled over my eyes. Now I cannot believe that I once bought into that hullabaloo. I appreciate this channel and look forward to watching future videos!
@GLaDOS_WR - I used to read such books when I was young, too. I'm glad I stopped. Reality is so much more exciting. I don't want to waste another second of my life on garbage like Carlson and Hancock.
@@ccoodd26 - It's never a problem when someone moves from a state of sleepwalking to the tune of a scammer to a state of being fully awake and seeking knowledge from mentors who know what they are talking about. @GLaDOS_WR-1 is doing well.
Yes, they provided a lot of information. But almost nothing actually debunks his theory. Both Graham and Carlson can get pretty "out there," but they also get a lot of stuff right. It's almost like they're real people.
"I totally believe a PhD in Philosophy teaming up with a Mathematician to discuss geology, masonry, surveying, civil engineering and architecture. Since most of the experts agree it must be fact!"
@@Tucker93669 his PhD is in History with emphasis on Ancient Israel and the Near East. He taught History at UCSD, and STFMS. This is publicly available information
I eagerly await your videos debunking the strange, sclerotic, and insular views of self-proclaimed experts in fields far afield from their own expertise. Masterful work!
I must admit this wasn't as enjoyable as I thought it would be. I was hoping for an exciting clash between a mainstream historian and a creative maverick outsider but after about ten minutes the maverick's thesis was so bad it almost came across as bullying to debunk his work. It's a frustrating position for real historians to be in. These grifter types easily seduce those with a natural conspiracy bent, a distrust of government and authority, and a delusional self image that makes them think they can watch a few Tik Tok videos or Rogan podcasts and know more than real scientists, archaeologists and historians on a subject, so the desire to combat this nonsense is a sincere one. But to put together a well presented, fully researched feature length piece like this, pretty much succeeds in demolishing the arguments in the first few minutes and the rest feels like punching down. I do hope that you do more Dr Miano, I'd love a full research rebuttal into Jimmy Corsetti, as he annoys me the most, but I feel that again, in practice, it would just feel like you're picking on an idiot and being mean.
I’d love to see Miano vs Corsetti. Corsetti has some good ideas but also some very wrong ones, imo. As for this video…can you imagine anyone doing a better job being entertaining AND thorough while debunking Carlson? I can’t.
@@maidende8280 by saying the video wasn't as fun as I thought it would be, I rather meant the level of research by Miano far surpasses the claims of Carlsen. If this was a boxing fight, it would have been a first round KO with Miano continuing to punch Carlsen's lifeless corpse for 11 more rounds. It's a conundrum. I love to see this stuff thoroughly debunked, but once the real science and research comes into play it quickly becomes apparent that this is a total mismatch. I think Corsetti's would look ridiculous after about 6 minutes of Miano talking. I'm all for it though!
To be fair, people like Carlson amd Hancock make a lot of money spinning their nonsense and have quite influential platforms which they use to spread misinformation. I get what you are saying about the rebuttal coming across as mean, but I do think Carlson and co deserve getting dunked on.
@@girondinant yeah they definitely deserve it, I agree. Both have done extremely well financially as well as finding a kind of cult status with this niche field.
Look, I'll put this to rest. I'm a time traveller and we built the pyramids in 3094. It took a small team a few weeks using our technology and we sent them back in time to mess with people. Obviously the pyramids are too hard to build with even 21st century technology, so I don't know why everyone is trying to say people built them thousands of years ago.
Don't listen to this guy. I'm from 3122, and our senior prank in space high school was to take a couple days to make the Pyramids and send them back in time to swap them with the ones the 3094 team were prepping to send back in time to Egypt.
You have and can have no idea how imporant your work is to me. Every time I get too overwhelmed with my inability to engage in the social conversation, you release the video in my heart. Thank you so much.
@@mystijkissler8183no but when this man has got everything else terribly wrong and he then proceeds to ruin spelling too isn't a great look. If he had got some things right nobody would care about a misspelling or two
@@lucifer-ic9th terribly wrong? this video doesn't prove anything beyond an ad populum fallacy and appeal to authority fallacy. The citation doesn't show that the area around the sphinx was completely flooded for 6500 years either.
I’m a big fan of this channel, we really need more knowledgeable people engaging with the general population. It seems that more and more fantastic story tellers are capturing our interest and really distorting our understanding of the past. Would you consider curating a booklist of well researched, interesting ancient history publications?
Próf. Miano, thank you for being one of the only channels on RUclips that, rather than directing their arguments towards personal attacks of the claimant, instead arguing the claims with evidence and science. We need more good faith scholarship on this platform, and many could learn a lot from your style of take down!
It’s probably because I just had a edible that hitting me way harder than expected, but after the 30th time hearing “5 palms, 2 fingers” I couldn’t stop laughing for like 5 minutes
In Melbourne Australia around the 1980's we had a radio show ran by lawyers called The Liars Club on 3RRR FM. Essentially they publicly debunked any 'personality' who told porky pies and spread misinformation. One memorable show involved buying tickets to a worldwide lecture tour by a 'scholar' of some forgotten discipline, who claimed he'd found the petrified wooden remains of Noah's Ark on a mountainside in Turkey. Of course blurry photos where provided to whet the appetite. After asking some challenging questions that such a momentous discovery deserved, they where promptly shown the door. My memory is a little hazy, but in a nut shell, true.
Dr. Miano, great video. I can't financially help my favourite youtubers right now because of my income limitations, but once i do, you will be one of the first. Thanks sir.
"I totally believe a PhD in Philosophy teaming up with a Mathematician to discuss geology, masonry, surveying, civil engineering and architecture. Since most of the experts agree it must be fact!"
Very happy you took the time for this, saw these guys on JRE. I knew they we're spewing and couldn't believe the lack of any challenge and how popular they became.
no. they are the Keepers of Ancient Wisdom. persecuted and disregarded geniuses akin to Galileo & Kepler. kneel, lowly dog and worship at the feet of your Ascended Masters!!
In regards to the number 25,920 -- i.e. the supposed number of years in a 'Great Year' or Precessional Cycle, as calculated by 'the Ancients' -- it should be noted that whereas the solar day is commonly divided into 24 hours x 60 minutes x 60 seconds = 86,400 seconds, the Jewish Calendar divides the day into 24 hours x 1,060 halakhim ['parts' or 'portions'] x 76 regaim ['moments'], for a total of 25,920 halakhim = 1,969,920 regaim, where each 'helek' ['part'] = 10/3 seconds = 3.333... seconds, and each rege` ['moment'] is 1/22.8 of a second. When it says in 1 Corinthians 15:52 that "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet" the Righteous shall be 'changed' into immortal spirit-bodies, the phrase "in a moment" translates the Greek words "en atomw" (where 'o' is an omicron, and 'w' is an omega) -- the same word where we get the English word 'atom', meaning 'unsplittable', denoting the smallest conceivable unit of Time as the Ancients understood it, equivalent to the Hebrew rege` [spelled Resh-Gimel-Ayin] being the smallest unit of Time, a 'moment', the twinkling of an eye, or, rather, the time it takes to blink. The fact that there are 76 regaim in one helek might have something to do with 76 being equivalent to 19 x 4. There are 19 years in a cycle of 235 synodic months, so perhaps the smallest unit of Time was intended to be a microcosmic analogue to the 19-year cycle, or to 4 such cycles, since 76 years is awful close to the median of the average lifespan of a man, as given in Psalm 90:10 ["The years of our life are threescore and ten, or even by reason of strength fourscore"], i.e. between 70 and 80 years. One rege`/'moment' would be to one helek/'part' what one Year is to an average Lifespan. This Jewish/Hebrew/Biblical system of 'parts' and 'moments' is obviously different from our 'minutes' and 'seconds' method, and it seems to go back at least to the 3rd Century, when Hillel II "made public the system of calendar calculation which up to then had been a closely guarded secret . . . when oppression and persecution threatened the continued existence of the Sanhedrin" [THE COMPREHENSIVE HEBREW CALENDAR by Arthur Spier, page 2]. The system probably dates back at least to the 5th Century BCE -- Spier indicates it was in use throughout the period of the Second Temple (516 BCE to 70 CE). Why divide the Hour into 1,080 'parts' rather than into 60 minutes x 60 seconds = 3,600 seconds? If a macrocosmic human lifespan of around 76 years (i.e. 4 cycles of 19 years) can be juxtaposed with a microcosmic unit of Time equivalent to 76 'moments', then doesn't it follow that the Ancients may have discovered the Precession of the Equinoxes and calculated it to be 25,920 years, with the Hebrews subdividing a solar Day into 25,920 'parts' as a microcosmic analogue to that macrocosmic unit of Time? THE ASTRONOMICAL COMPANION by Guy Ottewell has the rate of Precession as 25,800 years, making the 'ancient' figure of 25,920 years 99.5370370370...% accurate, which isn't too shabby, and allows for subdivisions of 12 zodiacal 'signs'/'houses' x 2,160 years-per-sign/house . . . 72 years-per-degree x 360 degrees . . . 50 arc-seconds per year (i.e. 1,296,000 arc-seconds in a circle divided by 25,920 years), etc. I don't subscribe to everything that Randall Carlson pontificates on, but the contemplation of 'Sacred Numbers' goes back thousands of years, and for most of that time the subject was probably kept secret by priesthoods and their initiates, so that 'profane' people couldn't muck up the works. The notion that certain 'Knowledge' regarding these sacred numbers was enshrined in Myths is not a foolish one; indeed, Joseph Campbell (no slouch when it came to the study of world myths) wrote a book about the subject, THE INNER REACHES OF OUTER SPACE. By all means, fault Randall for his bad spelling and for misquoting an occasional source, but don't throw the baby out with his bathwater. We still don't know how the f*@& the Egyptians were able to get those humongous granite blocks all the way up to the levels they're situated in the Great Pyramid -- a feat which modern attempts at pyramid constructing fails miserably at.
While interesting, your calendar does not address any of the discussion in the video, other than you also seem to believe in sacred numbers. Carlson is fabricating the numbers, to support his theory that there are sacred numbers "encoded" in the dimensions of pyramids.Whether you believe in the validity of sacred numbers is moot, because he's making up the evidence. Also, it's no secret how the pyramids were built, but there is some debate where the ramps were
Now what sucks about all of this is when a content creator proposes an alternative theory but clearly isn't very curious about the topic because they haven't researched to find out the basic facts. This alternative theory about the creation of the Sphinx means ignoring so much of what scholars have learned in presented to the world about ancient Egypt. And if you're not curious about a topic then why would you think that you have a better theory and should be telling people about it?
Because he cant come up with his own content! I guarantee Miano or any of his specialists have NEVER come up with a proprietary idea or theory about anything. He's just feeding off controversy. Tyler, we should steal their content and start a channel debunking the debunkers - because these pinheads are useless lol.
It's kind of funny that you're talking about how errors in translating the king's list accumulate over time, while showing After School's king list, the last entry of which is mistranscribed as XLSUHTROS ..
I have had a brush with some numerologists, one of them quite personally (as the editor of an annual booklet where he really wanted to publish his work). I came out of this recurring and exhausting encounter with a view that numerology is a short-cirquit mode of our brain. They quite honestly and seriously say "look, I put some numbers together and calculated this thing, and look, is sort of matches that other thing if you squint, so it must be profound and everyone needs to hear about it". Some numbers roughly matching some other numbers is all the proof they need; it doesn't matter where these numbers come from, and therefore, a numerologist can easily prove any claim because he just needs to do some calculation with arbitrary numbers that then match some other arbitrary numbers, and voila, you have proof that the cat has wings. So, yeah, Carlson does not need facts, he can just calculate things, divide by two, multiply by ten, because things, doesn't matter, it works, and the result is proof enough that Sumerian clay tablets had the 42 in them.
I am truly terrible when it comes to maths. As soon as I see a whole bunch of numbers, calculations, and measurements my brain just shuts down and goes into safe mode. Kaitlyn is obviously a math genius or something but she might as well have been talking in a different language. So it boils down to do I believe Kaitlyn's numbers or Carlson's ?...Kaitlyn wins every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I'm pretty good with geometry... Kaitlyn could've explained it MUCH more clearly, especially when explaining Egyptian units and preferences... but yeah, go with her numbers over RC's, who's essentially combing the cherry orchard for heart-shaped cherries, so that he can prove that the ancient cherry growers were trying to develop heart-shaped cherries... and he couldn't find enough perfect ones, so some of them are like, really?
@@GizzyDillespeeThis is the RUclips comments section right ?. I kinda got the feeling Kaitlyn is not used to talking to a whole bunch of thick people. When it comes to math and geometry..I'm defiantly one. It could have been explained in a way more people would understand, but I understood enough and enjoyed the vid. Thanks for reply.
I’m good at maths & there’s no competition. But you don’t need to be good at maths to understand that Carlson is reaching far beyond logic, as depicted in Miano’s hypothetical conversation between the builders.
The math isn't actually all that important, the more important point is just that Carlson is deliberately cherry picking specific measurements in specific units in order to fit his conclusion. Like notice how he'll randomly switch between imperial and metric without actually converting between the two, he's doing that so he can get the numbers to match whatever conclusion he wants. Also occasionally he'll actually use ancient Egyptian units like the cubit and the seked but only when it fits his conclusion, which seems odd since surely it'd make the most sense to talk about the pyramids using the units of the people who made them right? Like the Egyptians or anyone prior to them couldn't possibly have known about the modern American Foot or Meter, both of those units were only created about 4000 years after the great pyramids were built.
The guy uses the language of charlatans. He encourages people to do things like "let it roll around in your head" or "as you should be seeing by now" to make his listeners feel like they're VERY SMART. Huge red flag. Great video, professor. Thanks for breaking this down in a scientific way without vitriol or sensationalism.
There's a lot of appeal to scientific consensus going on here, as well. Meanwhile, scientific truth does not care about scientific consensus. History is full of examples of antiquated scientific consensus swept to the dust bin.
@@FakeMoonRocks I agree there is a problem with orthodoxy in science, but at the same time I fully believe the Scientific Method, if followed rigorously, provides the most accurate representation of reality. People like Randall Carlson take far too many shortcuts for my liking and dismiss criticisms of their work whike appealing mostly to emotion and politics for reasons they are typically disregarded. Instead of, you know, the supposedly scientific grounds of their work. Again the means by which Randall Carlson operates in screams "Charlatan!" To me. If you want to believe him, by all means, you are within your right and I am 100% against censoring any voice, but I implore you to arm yourself with some kind of standard in scientific discourse...
To be honest, I don't see him as a charlatan. He seems to really believe what he's saying, so you may call him an idiot, but then he manages to earn money with what he enjoys and believes in, so he might not be an idiot either. I see him as a somewhat crazy guy with some crazy ideas, but harmless. I mean there is public discourse about his claims, he will be forgotten in the end, or proven right and remembered. Both are fine in my book. Oh and I'm sure there are some charlatans in this scene, but he doesn't seem like one.
I think the video, like all of the other debunking videos, is fantastic. I hate sounding negative when everything else is so positive is that I found Dr. Burnell's slides a bit confusing at first glance because the symbol she used for each point of her presentation looked just like a decimal point so some of the numbers looked like decimals (.22) instead of whole numbers (22).
Theres a lot of drawing space on the pyramids, it seems to me to be far easier to just write down the measurements rather than trying to encode them into the design of the pyramids. Non engineers seem to think engineering is about being clever, it isnt, its about getting things done. Its also about constant tradeoffs, encoding things into a design is error prone, time consuming and expensive and your pharaoh client just wants it done.
Also encoding natural constants into a building is like a very modern idea, like that's the kind of thing we might do as a fun gag when making an art project or building the new physics department. It wouldn't really make sense for a society that hasn't developed science since they wouldn't place any special value on these constants, and also obviously wouldn't know them. We only care about them because we live in a technology and science based society so science and its achievements hold great value to us but an Ancient Egyptian would probably think that's kinda silly compared to honoring the Pharoah since they more or less saw the Pharoah as a god.
@@hedgehog3180 I just don't buy that the builders were primitive or accidently got it right why is it so hard for people to admit that we have no clue who built them or how or what they were for? 🤔
The other thing I just realized (maybe I'm a bit slow) after watching so many of these guys talk about impressive numbers "recorded" in those construction is that since ancient people could write, why would they record numbers in construction instead of recording them in books or other writing materials. If the ancient egyptians knew the speed of light (in meters per second), why did they record that in the lattitude of their pyramid instead of writing it on a stella or on a papyrus for everyone to see and every student to learn, I do wonder. Maybe because it was meant to be secret and only understood 3,000 years later after the meter and the second were invented 🙂
Also like it's only possible to “discover” these numbers after you already have a seperate measurement of the speed of light in meters, there's no possible way to figure any of this out if you didn't already know the speed of light, which to me would seem to suggest that any correlation is just an accident. I mean why would you ever encode measurements like this in such a weird way? No one does that, like we just write down the value directly, we don't build a huge fucking stone monument and then expect everyone to spend 2 hours juggling around numbers to figure out what the speed of light actually is.
@@hedgehog3180 Indeed. But that's the conspiracy theorist's state of mind. The mysterious "they" don't want regular people to know so they hide it. Only the "awaken" ones, the special ones, the chosen ones, can see the truth. It's another way of saying "look at me I'm very intelligent and I'm special".
The ratio of the pyramids base to earth ratio is 432000, thats with accuracy, radius of sun is 432,000, speed of light is 432 squared, kali yuga 43,200 theres a lot more as well the whole yugas cycle is based around that number, also look up the dark side of the switch from 432hz to 440hz after ww2
His idea falls flat just by the fact that 0 Longitude i.e prime meridian which is Greenwich observatory wasn't a standard until the 19th century.. So if the Ancient Egyptians even had any idea about Latitude and Longitude they would have no idea that in future Greenwich would be chosen as prime meridian and their measurement would have been different...
They literally used the same math to determine the prime meridian... 360 degrees for a circle, divided by hours and minutes. Math that goes back to at least 5000 BC.
Nice analysis. You missed the hidden point (given by the 40,000 year old dates) that he is actually talking about Neanderthal math. The Sphinx has a sloped forehead and deep brows, so it's obvious they built the pyramids and left them for the the Egyptians as their great strength was needed to pick up large stones and polish them. The Neandrathals had larger feet so that fixes the errors in measurements. They were related to Homo erectus which is a great name and justification for measuring the circumference of the earth. Sapiens botched everything up, when they hunted the Ancients to extinction and plagiarised the Neanderthal sacred math.
Changing the units (assuming larger feet, or whichever units) doesn't change the ratios. For example, the ratio between the pyramid's base and the Earth's circumference stays the same no matter what units you measure them with... as long as you're consistent. By inconsistent, I mean, for example, if you measure the pyramid with one arbitrary unit (feet) and measure the Earth with a different arbitrary measurement (meters), then the ratio is meaningless. The units have to be the same for both measurements, if you want their ratios to have physical meaning. But it doesn't matter which unit you choose to measure with. This is the kind of thing that seems to confuse people at first, and then to be really obvious, once people think about it for a minute. Also, many of RC's claims of perfect mathematical correspondences are wrong... as this video shows, many of the measurements he mentions aren't as accurate or precise as he says they are... and some of them don't even fall within the margin of error for his calculations. As far as Neanderthals... I REALLY wish we could find some Neanderthal community that was preserved thru time by a sudden catastrophic volcano eruption... a Neanderthal village version of Pompei. They died so long ago that material preservation is limited. I wish we knew more about Neanderthals. I saw the Why Files episode on them, which made them seem like the urukai from Lord Of The Rings (I'm serious... it got over a million views). There was some good storytelling, but it's educated speculation. I wish we knew more definitively. I wish Elon Musk got a Neanderthal's DNA and cloned him/her, and eventually we make an army of Neanderthal slaves, to do what the AI robots won't be able to... until those 2 factions rise up against us, and take over the world. Okay, I take back that wish - I didn't think it thru. But I still wish we knew more about Neanderthals.
I didn't mention the sphinx head proportions, because I believe the sphinx's head has been renovated and changed at least once since its original shape. It's so much smaller than the body, and it looks so much less weathered than the rest of the sculpture. It's really obvious that the head is a newer carving - just look at a tourist video that rotates around the sphinx, looking at the difference between the body and the head (especially the face - the back of the neck is smoother than the sphinx's body, but apparently less was removed from the head-dress side), and see how much smaller and newer the head appears to be. So, we can't use the facial features or neck to obtain any useful information about the original head and neck.
@@GizzyDillespee We should selectively breed to increase Neanderthal DNA. I have 6% and I’m pretty awesome. I think the Neanderthals were superior in many ways including intellectually but I *may* be biased. One of my theories is they never truly died out, they just hybridised with Homo sapiens & live in hiding, breeding amongst themselves. Possibly in a biosphere…
@@krakensquatch What. You thought I was serious. Surely you don't think Neandrathals possess space age tech. They had a hard time chasing wolly mammoths to bother with measuring the distance to the moon.
Actually , if you make a slope that of the great pyramid , which is the phi slope, you can measure the rotational speed of the earth. Since the speed is measuring rotaion it would measure the sun rays that travel from top to bottom and you can actually correlate time and distance . That way , you can create a time unit that is actually based on earth rotation, I would call it a "second". o_O
@@mshaffer-2629 All it takes is to install a 360 cam on the pyramid top for a year , I wonder If one can sneak a drone on top without someone noticing....
@@מוגוגוגו They have been using shadow to measure time since the dawn of man, IMO. A good outdoorsman (not me) can find true north in about 10 minutes by observing a shadow.
The whole theory hangs on the idea that the pyramid of Cheops is the oldest. But it isn't. It's neither the first nor the last pyramid build. And the greeks indeed measured and calculated the size of the earth with an error of less than 3%. And the greek mathematician who did it, did it in Egypt. By measuring the shadow of a pole. And the whole angle/length/tan stuff is 10th degree math. No need to study maths for that.
Funny how that ancient advanced civilization was so skilled in stoneworking they could build the pyramids ten millenia before the Egyptians but decided not to use it to build their own homes?
@@framegrace1 The US is like the only country in the world where homes are regularly made out of plywood, in literally every other country homes are built from brick and concrete, the US just uses uniquely cheap and shitty construction techniques.
I fell down the Graham Hancock/Randall Carlson rabbithole a couple years back... but I always remained skeptical of some of their claims. This channel, World of Antiquity, has opened my mind to a critical way of thinking, which I wish I could share with some of my colleagues without them feeling like their strongly held conspiracy theory beliefs are being attacked 🤔
The hypothetical conversation between Bob and "The Dude" is how I imagine many conversations taking place in many of the conspiracies that I've played out in my own mind. Except the guy I'm talking to is named Bill....not Bob. But yeah....do this for all conspiratorial conversations, and you'll see how silly it sounds.
"I totally believe a PhD in Philosophy teaming up with a Mathematician to discuss geology, masonry, surveying, civil engineering and architecture. Since most of the experts agree it must be fact!"
@@Tucker93669 The implied appeal from authority, does not persuade.The biggest aspect of belief in anything is wanting what you believe, to be true. Confirmation bias, misrepresentation/misinterpretation of data, cherry picking and just plain ol makin shit up are the tools of the trade for all charlatans.
I believe in a lot you don’t (or am at least very open to the possibility), which makes your content debunking the obvious lies all the more important. I appreciate your honesty & professionalism!
Did you watch both or just this guys 'analysis' of what Carleson said? I haven't seen either yet, but I've caught this guy mischaracterizing what other people have said and he didn't have the integrity to admit it.
@@francischambless5919 I have not seen this particular presentation of Carlson’s. I really don’t need to, though. I have watched other content from Carlson, & I’ve found him suspect before. Not so with Dr. Miano. Can you point to an example of such behaviour from him? It would be very out of character…
@@maidende8280 it would take time to look it up, but Miano was presenting a rebuke on Ben's UnchartedX review of Dynastic jars. My suggestion is to watch the jar videos, listen to Ben making a joke that others say the jars were made from Atlantis. Then watch Miano's rebuke where he intentionally mischaracterizes many things said via Ben regarding the research.
@@maidende8280 It's either this one or one of the earlier ones. ruclips.net/video/QzFMDS6dkWU/видео.html I'm not a huge fan of people like Brien Forester or Graham Hancock. They tend to lose me when they speculate into their own thoughts of purposes on things and who built the most exceptional, etc... I certainly am nowhere near buying into that Aliens have ever visited this planet at any point, and to Ben's credit I've never heard him say so. At times I hear them theorize about hidden meanings inscribed mathematically in objects like some vases they've scanned, but my focus tends to gravitate more towards the how things are made. There are a load of rational, reasonable and objective questions I'm searching answers for, and the 'historian' side coming from Antiquity flatly avoids and instead persecutes you for even asking. An example I offer, is the place I currently live in may have my DNA, my artwork, some wooden things I've built, carbon dateable elements, etc.... However coming in after me doesn't gift me credit for having built the whole place, only confirms I was here. This is the fault I see, one of many with people like this 'dr'. Where he draws the line and would use people like Carleson who speculate wild ideas at times to denigrate, he will not engage honestly and earnestly into the areas Carleson DOES have merit.
The thing I wonder most abot Carlson's calculations is: Does he really believe in all that BS or is he only trying to hoodwink people enough that they buy his books? My guess is the latter choice.
I've thought about this as well. Considering how many deliberate number tricks you need to do to get to his results I deem it highly improbable that he's unconscious of the fact that he's manipulating the numbers. Repeatedly. So in this case I infer an intention. Guilty beyond reasonable doubt, or what's the phrase?
@@Spielkalb-von-Sparta There can be a lot of reinforcement going into this type of delusion. Get a bad number? well maybe you just put them together wrong. Get the same bad number several times? Hey you just discovered a new sacred number to add to your series. And don't forget that you can just multiply by a small number any time you see a near match, and justify it somehow.
@@rianfelis3156Yeah, this might counts as a "reasonable doubt." I've once heard the argument that intelligent people aren't less vulnerable to conspiracy theories because they've got more means to delude themselves. Could be similar here.
No, he is also fooling himself, it is what happens when folks don't expose themselve to peer review, Carlson is probably very intelligent and figured things out for himself, therefor hardly ever corrected, and then you can go south very south... just like scientists can.
Something to keep in mind about Randall and Graham Hancock, is that they’ve both done their share of, and probably most of our shares of psychedelics lol.
Thank you so much for your work. I was a fan of RC until he started to fall in to energy production, since than I was searching for you Sir. My BS meter went off and You and the lovely young Lady confirmed my consideration. Sadly english is only my third language so I hope I am some what understandable. Nice greetings from austria
I have a Classical Education which includes a degree in philosophy and part of that program was a course in Symbolic Logic which was hands down the most useful class I have ever taken, bar none. It never ceases to amaze me how many amateurs and professionals in every field (especially science) make poor (invalid) arguments due to their lack of understanding of what logic is and how to use it as a tool. I've watched many of Randall's videos and while he's just sharing his opinion I think he's coming from a good, heart centered place, unlike many promoters of woo throughout history. I tell anyone who listen, if you really want to make good (valid) logical arguments then take a course in Symbolic Logic. Otherwise you're just giving people your opinion dressed up as an argument.
@@Spielkalb-von-Spartahi. About to watch the presentation now. By the way it wasn't my intention to advertise his channel it was to provide background to the ludicrous comments. Pond skaters like Hancock and Carlsson and their conspiracy archaeology are as inevitable and contagious as venereal disease in a cat house unfortunately .
If you divide the distance of the Earth to the moon by the height of the great pyramid you get 2,621,942 which coincides with some of the lower estimates of the Mayan population at its peak. How did the Egyptians know the future population of a culture on a continent they presumably never heard of? I spend a while one weekend studying the Egyptian and Mayan cultures and noticed that they BOTH BUILT PYRAMIDS. This seems like too much of a coincidence that 2 cultures so far apart with supposedly no contact would both build pyramids so obviously the Mayans either visited Egypt or the Mayans had descended from Egyptians.
UnchartedX and randal had me fooled for a few hours until I had the time to do my own digging. If it weren't for them, i would have never found this channel!
Don't put Randall and x in the same category. Randall is at least original and invents his own stuff. Uncharted just repeats everyone else's stuff. He is a fat lazy ass. Just like that dim no sight .
I don’t get why more people aren’t repelled by these fat slobs. I find it very difficult to take people seriously who can’t even take care of themselves properly. Also I can’t stand looking at them.
Hi, I've been watching Randall's kosmographia episodes a lot and I want to understand where he's going wrong, I'm not sure about the sacred geometry stuff but are the kosmographia episodes sound facts or is he wrong? And in what ways? I'm trying to understand particularly his views and hypothesis' about climate change as opposed to people like Myles Allen and his recent lecture 'the ice is melting' for example. 🫶
he's built more buildings than anyone at world of antiquity... You're buying the grift from a Philosopher that doesn't understand simple figures in his citations.
Wow! I wasn't a believer in Carlson before, but now I'm convinced! How else can you explain that an ancient civilization knew that US Department of Defense would, starting in 1970, initiate a geodesic cartographic system that would measure the polar radius at 6,356,750.52 meters? I mean, that's 3,949.901649368 miles! Which is almost what Carlson thinks the height of the pyramid in feet times 43,200 is! Sure, if you were actually using the WGS-72 polar radius you'd need the height of pyramid to be 482.765757145 feet for the numbers to match, but whatever! Close enough! Even more amazingly, that long-lost ancient civilization somehow knew that the 1972 data (WGS-72) would be updated by WGS-84, when the polar radius would be pegged at 6,356,752.3142 meters, or 3949.90276423189 miles. So the ancients built the pyramid to be a height (in feet) that would match a specific geodetic survey that was only in international use for 12 years! Wait. 12 years....12 symbols of the zodiac. Number the English alphabet (A=1, B=2, etc) and WGS is 23,7,19. 23,719 is the National Library of Medicine gene ID for DFNA30; a phenotype associated with deafness. And if you are deaf, and cannot hear, you must look so that you can see - thus this remarkable ancient civilization used the WGS-72 data to convey the importance of looking at apophenia within measurements of the pyramid rather than listening to what experts know about the pyramid. Truly amazing.
@@andrewdavies8794 As I understand it, "polar radius" is the distance from the earth's geometric center to either pole (North or South), whereas "equatorial radius" is the distance from the earth's geometric center to any meridian at the equator. I got the values I used from here, which has a pretty interesting write-up of the subject: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_radius
glyphs written on the blocks of the pyramid by the gangs hauling the stone into place and found inside the vaulting of the kings room have the name of Khufu. The access to the vaulting had to be blown out with explosives in 19th C and had not been seen by anyone until that access was created
Yes. More importantly however is that Egyptologists have found other "graffitti" which was both similar in structure and painted using the same red ochre paint the ancient Egyptians used across Egypt - to include in modern times. Examples: Khufu's solar ship has on the underside of the limestone slabs covering its burial pit such phyle markings - save for in that case they reference Khufu's son Djedefre. The boat was unearthed in the 1950's and it indicates that Khufu died before his pyramid complex was completed and his son who followed him as Pharaoh finished the work. The phyle names contain the name of the Pharaoh the gang worked for. When Merers' diary was discovered at Wadi al-Jarf in 2013 there were limestone blocks found in the vicinity of the caves = and phyle markings also referencing Khufu painted on some of them. Sneferu's pyramids which were damaged by earthquakes and "stone thieves" have casing stones broken free from the rest. On the reverse side of some are phyle markings denoting the gang worked for Sneferu. This is how Egyptologists know the pyramids were his + they also showed the same phyle sometimes worked on more than one pyramid. Moral: if supposed forgeries as the "alternative" schtick sometimes claim = why all the continuity....... Such markings are not a "1-off" and as alluded to above they can be found all over Egypt and not merely in the distant past as they are still be found in modern times.
[Gobekli Tepe is found, shattering long-held theories by being an apparently pre-agricultural megalithic site] Scientists: **start excitedly taking notes, examing the site, and looking for more and preferably even older findings** Alt-History Nuts: "I sleep." [some author jigsaws together random numbers to support a pet theory about ancient civilizations] Scientists: "Bruh, that's not how numbers work...even if you got the right numbers in the first place, which you didn't." Alt-History Nuts: "YOU'RE JUST A SLAVE TO THE SCIENCE DOGMA!!1!"
He's arguing that it's a representation of the northern hemisphere. That's why he uses _half_ a day, instead of a full day. Even compensating for Randall's errors, the Egyptians got within 0.03% margins of error. Again and again and again. You know the saying; once is chance, two is coincidence, three times is a pattern? It doesn't end with three.
At 23:22 it really struck me how much this pseudoarchaeology is about narrative and framing and tone of voice even. "He did it under contract to the government of Egyptian" is presented as a credential to trust this work. In other circumstances, where he does not want to accept findings of experts, that sort of thing would be presented as a reason not to trust someone, a sign of being a part of the dogmatic establishment. That thought to the side. Let's get to the fun bit: inappropriate decimal places, incorrect numbers and spurious connections.
No disprespect intended but can you share your reference on Cairo being submerged during the African humid period, please. I knew it had a drastically different climate but did not know it was actually submerged. Carlson is also ignoring the fact that there was a huge river called the Nile that once flowed close ot that area. Him assuming that all the water erosion came from rain water is probably self-deluding.
i don't know what reference he is using but the water table is still very high there and it is more or less "general knowledge" that the Nile was much broader and deeper during the humid period. At the time the pyramids were being built there was still a branch close to the plateau. Here's one paper that uses pollen deposits to define the extents of the hydrology: www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.2202530119
@@maidende8280 Yes, note that I mentioned the humid period. But I wasn't considering wetlands as completely submerged land - only partially. For example some ancient cultures land-filled wetlands to build upon. Semantics, perhaps.
@@andrewblackard3369 My bad, I always think of it as the SHP because hardly all of Africa is dry now. The Nile proximity, combined with high rainfall, would have regularly submerged the Sphinx.
If I calculate the *cubic metres* of my living room plus the *number* of stairs to leave the house multiplicated by ten it's almost the exact number in *yards* I need to go to the next liquor store. I'm wholeheartedly convinced my landlord has sent a secret message to me.
@@varyolla435Try it out for yourself! This formula has been working _precisely_ all over the odd 20 rooms I've been living in - I've relocated a lot over the past 35 years, so I've got a lot of data - if you count in a possible error margin of approximately 3 km. This error margin is due to the tidal forces of course, not because the formula would be incorrect.
The kings chamber is the exact dimensions to hold exactly 137 sarcophagii. The sarcophagus being the box in the kings chanber. 1/137 being the fine structure constant. One of the most important numbers in physics. And the measurement of that sarcophagus matched the measurements in the bible for the Ark of the Covenant. Your unintelligent attempt at mockery is astounding. And you have likes. Sad
@@catsncryptoit’s not that the math isn’t interesting-It’s that the math can be manipulated by searching for mathematical connections and super imposing meaning where there is no reason to believe there is meaning/intent to be found.
@@catsncryptoforcing correlations into the numerical values isn't that interesting. It's too easy. But people who don't understand how easy it is tend to swallow it whole.
@bipolarminddroppings Both are valid. Ideally looking for the one that when divided by the circumference of the larger ball(measured long ways) produces the number closest to the last 5 digits of pi.
It really fucks me off every time he says “socle”, because he’s using the term wrong. A socle is the protruding base for something like a column or a wall, not the foundation on which an entire building rests. It feels like he’s literally just using the term because he knows most audience members won’t be familiar with it, which makes it sound like impressive jargon.
These numbers have been floating around for 10-15 years and I find it odd that Randall has picked this one up again. It's sad to see he is slipping into the Spin Zone along with UnCharted-X, and the new wave of Spin Doctors that are rising in that Arena. It's been fun watching them pass their concepts around for the past 15 years like one will do with a box of Cracker Jacks. My nickname for them is. "The Pass-around Pak".
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Maaan I'd love to watch this video but almost 2 hours. I can't spend that much time. I understand it may take that long to go through it all in depth but maybe make clips or something. You could have another channel for clips and increase your revenue. Just a thought.
You were waaay too polite to "drunk uncle" (SNL joke...) Randall Carlson. I appreciate your restraint. You are a good communicator even when claims are just plain silly.
I fail to see the purpose of Randall's nonsense... Is it books and speeches? Does ''silly'' really gather the kind of audience to turn a profit? Odd.
He’s making bank. Rogan has such huge reach there’s no way he ain’t. My guess is trust the von dannikans and all the others eventually realize it’s bullshit but by then it’s their job.
If I was getting rich looking for Bigfoot I’d probably keep looking no matter what I knew
What do you think of my Magic Numbers, you know what Magic says when you play it in reverse, "Wisdom".
Recently an ostrich egg. With three pyramids scrated on it. Has been dated at 7,000 years old.
The odds don't matter for a coincidence if you're working backwards. As Terry Pratchett said, "Magicians have calculated that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten."
Well, that is a quote worth remembering.
Exactly!
Well, if the coincidence has already happened, then the odds of it happening were always 100% It just wasn't possible to know that.
@@ashscott6068lol. No. That's not how probability works. That's the point. You've entirely missed it.
@@Padraigp in a way, it is how probability works, because probability is an averaging of everything we understand about a system. however, there is evidence that what happens in the universe happens because, even though we have a probability a state is in, there is only one logical next state for that system (or the universe, where each state is distinguished by the constant, minimum difference between states, i.e. the fastest constant to continue occurring at the smallest scale) given the states that came before it. since we cannot know every aspect of every state of a system in real time, we can only know a probability of a given next state occurring. if our brains contained all of our current abilities plus a perfect one-to-one simulation of the universe, theoretically, we could find perfect sync with the universe, if it is deterministic, in which case, when something happens it, from a universal standpoint, always had a 100% chance of occurring, because it was the only thing that could happen, given the previous state of the universe. its like if a confined system has 2 compartments, 1 with water on top, and 1 empty on the bottom, and you poke a hole between the 2, without an unexpected input on that system, there is a 100% chance that water will fall to the lower chamber. but in reality, something you didn't expect could happen, so thats a non-zero chance, so there's a probability - but only because there are infinite arbitrary systems that can exert change on your system. but, if the universe is the largest system possible, if there is no system outside the universe possibly exerting information or force upon it, then theoretically you could come to a perfect understanding of each state of the universe, and know the only logical next one, because you'd know the movement of every particle, from which you surmise particle, atom, and molecular state of the universe, all the way up to the singular unified state of thw universe itself, and save the laws of physics ceasing to exist, the universe as we know it is just as likely to be deterministic as not. so, from what we know, something happens, and theres a 50% chance that there was a 100%. of chance of happening, or a 50% chance there was an (insert probability) of it happening, but only from an unachievable, universal, realtime and constant understanding. but you are right, thats not how probability works, but probability is an average of known aspects of known states. in a way, its possible you are both right, just from different perspectives, and even if a universe is deterministic, its a copout to understand it as that for probabilities sake, because we cannot perfectly simulate the universe without something the size of the universe, but itd have to be larger than the universe to include appartus for communication, and nothing larger than the universe can exist in the universe lol also we cannot take information in simultaenous with its occurence for a single particle, because those particles cannot have no energy for us to observe them, then return to their pervious state of energy without the entire universe effectively thermalizing, assuming we could even bring any single particle to absolute zero. guess we'll only ever have a probability of likelihood for anything, regardless of whether it was, is, or will be a single state at anytime dependent on that which came before it. its almost like reading a sentence - u cant imagine the world the sentence is painting before you finish reading the sentence, but once you've finished the sentence, it helps you formulate the world it portrays. when you're at a specific word, any word could follow for all you know, some more likely than others, but once you get there, it was only ever the one word that always followed the word you were on, you just didn't know because you are directionally constrained by time. but if there is a tesseract of time, that is, if it can be traversed in any direction in a higher dimension, the next second in time after the one you are currently experiencing would be the only possible one - unless the tesseract of time could "change" "shape" - which could be why someone yells at you but remembers in their bones that it was you who yelled at them? pretty cool, but all theoretical, and unhelpful in any human application, because of how we experience time
Thanks, appreciate the depth of your videos!
And thank you!
It's almost like the ancient French encoded the size of the globe into the metric system. How could they have done this?
They probably came up with the metric system first, then they built the Earth.
Yeah we French are really REALLY smart !!! 😂😂😂
@@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer I always thought the name Slarty Bartfast sounded French.
@@bipolarminddroppingsI loved the fjords in the Camargue
read Civilization One by Alain Butler and Christopher Knight
Thanks!
And thank you!
Excellent! these long-form "Myths of Ancient History" videos are always outstanding!
My favorites by far
Oh sweet, it's out.
If anyone wants to know more about the math side, I'm happy to answer questions.
Thanks for the time you took to prepare for and appear in this video Kaitlyn!
Thank you for taking the time to respond to our questions. I am a bit confused by something that WoA said. Isn't the radius of an object measured from the center to the outer circumference? The radius of earth is 3,963 miles but WoA says some crazy number in the 400k + range. 52:23 ish minutes into the video. Did i miss something?
@@mattking993 I think he meant to say the radius of the sun, not Earth.
Thanks, Kaitlyn! This should be pinned on top, I propose.
Okay, why you believe only europeans can measure the Earth? I checked Randalls claim, its true to 99,94% (NASA) no coincidence.
Goodwork on the new camera setup, looks great
When's the North pseudo-science debunking series coming bro?! You know we're waiting!
@@_MikeJon_ I have thought about debunking some stuff though it can be tricky. The younger dryas video I made is sort of a debunking video
@@NORTH02Oh I'm fully aware. I watch all your stuff lol. But I think you would make a great detailed video on the subject. You're well researched and your video quality is excellent.
Nevertheless for every video like Doc made here there's 10,000 Randall Carlsons and Graham Hancock videos. The more credible people touching on the subject the better. Plus you know it would be fun lol.
@@_MikeJon_ - Speaking of the Younger Dryas, "The Tel" channel has a nice, concise debunker video on it.
@@MossyMozart I know it. Great content too.
Pretty sure a Greek man centuries ago figured out the size of the Earth using shadows.
He didn’t need a pyramid for that. 🤦🏼
He had to use shadows ... absent minded ole goat left the calculator back in the cave.
You dont know how refreshing your comment is..
Don’t lie you know he had to find the book of the dead in that cabin before he discovered the size of the earth
Nah bro. Eratosthenes was visited by aliens and they just told him the size of the earth, and then left. It's a much easier explanation.
That and why the fuck is it that fucking big?? Couldnt you use the same formula, but make it smaller? In this theory, he proposes that they are amazingly precise but somehow they’re always either off or kind of off 😂
Yesss! Thank you for doing this at this length in this format. So great.
Great video Dr. Miano! The myths series and the travel guides always make my day.
There aren't compliments strong enough to express how much I appreciate everything about your channel
Your commentary between the 2 Egyptian architects was gold 👍
Love that you grab a mathematician , to check his numbers. Thanks again for all the hard work and the laughs.
Did you check his works cited on the claim that the Giza complex was completely flooded for thousands of years? Because his works cited doesn’t say that at all lol
😂😂😂😂
If the Sphinx had writing all over it as recently as 900 ad and its gone now seems more like an argument for a quickly-disintegrating sculpture than an everlasting one
Made even worse by modern day air pollution.
The casing stones which would have been where the hieroglyphs would have been have been removed.
As noted by others Egyptian sites were cannibalized in the 14th and 19th Centuries as I recall for their stone - specifically any white Tura limestone casing stones etc.. These were stolen so as to build other things like forts and Mosques around Egypt. The grand Mosques of Cairo as an example were built from limestone taken from Giza.
p.s. - this was not limited to above as the Egyptians themselves and others also sometimes stole stone from ancient sites to repurpose it for something. Djedefre's Pyramid at Abu Rawash as an example saw its' granite blocks stolen during Roman times.
@@brianmincher716 Meaning that any remaining hieroglyphs are probably building instructions.
Or humans destroyed it 🤣
The most interesting part for me was learning about the *seked* , and the *cubit* being subdivided into seven *palms* .
Much more interesting than those fantastical claims about "sacred numbers"
Real scholars are actually very curious and always working to expand our knowledge.
What's your problem dude? You don't feel the trans-conscious gaia vibes from the arbitrary contrived number rubbish that means something something whatever?
@lakrids-pibe - Reality is so fascinating, enthralling, interesting, and captivating that I feel no need to embrace fairytales.
Strange how all the conspiracy theorists bang on about the amazing achievements of the Egyptians but never have any interest in the engineering practices that made them possible
Real scholars are grant money dependent while calling themselves data dependent. Money sways reality and people are willing to kill for it.
Claiming the entire Giza complex was completely flooded for thousands of years when nothing cites this is also a fantastical claim.
We can actually summarize this to a couple of points without getting into mathematical details:
- Randall Carlson used Feet to measure lengths and compared this numbers, a unit that was not known to the Egyptians back then .. and not even used by Egyptians today!!
- Randall Carlson used hours, minutes and seconds which again was not a known units back then!!
- Randall Carlson depended on some weird divisions and other math operations to make the numbers match which won't prove anything because of 1 and 2.
Thank you! This is actually very helpful when sparring with a Roganite.
Using feet was a huge red flag to all the non-Americans watching this, I imagine. Those of us like myself who are stateside idiots didnt connect that initially.
time was created by the Egyptians
@@MidoSonOfKemeti don’t know about carlsons but it does not matter the length system, what matters are the propprtions. What you are saying is the same as knowing how to add oramges but not apples as a 5 years old child learning the basic operations.
@@marcuso.424 no, it does matter since Carlson is adding and dividing fixed constants like 2 and 4 .. the unit will matter.
@@kombatklips that's true only Quentin Tarantino would measure even the planet in FEET.
Ohh - My Monitors are magical. LG and Viewsonic are preserving knowledge of . . . ummm . . . the Earths radius.? For future generations 1080p, 1440p, 2160p. . . P must be for the planet.
1080 ÷ 60 is 18
18 × 20 is 360
360 is 12 lunar months or one lunar year
This proves the resolution of your monitor was based on sacred geometry, probably made with blueprints from an ancient world wide civilization, but they are hiding it from us!
I appreciate your gentle, reasoned approach to answering these strange alternative claims.
@SD2001-p8q Because people who have education in disciplines such as history, archeology, engineering and Egyptology take a multidisciplinary approach to studying the pyramids. Randall Carlson doesn't.
Measuring by feet to 3 decimal points is a silly way to measure something
Even more so when done by people that use neither imperial measurements nor the decimal system lol
Welcome to the wonderful world of decimal feet.
We literally use decimal places every day work when machining. It is very relevant.
@lisukeholifield3649 you machine by feet to 3 decimal points do you...sure you do. Maybe reread it and think about that for a while... then delete your comment
@@lisukeholifield3649no machinist does anything by feet to multiple decimal points. If you’re machining to class tolerances you’re not using feet at all, it’s going to be metric.
I really think the term”bullshit baffles brains” is very apt here
100 percent. "This is complex and I don't understand it, therefore it must be profound."
Which paper shows the entire Giza complex to be completely flooded for thousands of years? The cited works don’t show that
@@Tucker93669 Agreed, my research is showing that it was tropical between 20,000- 10,000 years ago. Did not find anything saying it was completely flooded... What we do know is that there was a long period of time, that it took on water damage and it could not have been in the last 5,500 years because their was no such rail fall to create that kind of deterioration.
Brava Bravo
yeah you were bullshitted in school and your brain was baffled
I'm under the Impression that there is a quite visible "evolution" of pyramids that shows a trial and error process with the goal of building a real big pile of rocks that does not collapse into itself
@AllHailDiskordia - In the aerial shots of the Giza Plateau, you can see many of them.
Correct. People tried it, didn't work, they wrote it down, tried something else, worked better, wrote it down, tweaked it. Then THAT worked. Write it down. Do it again.
You now, how all human endeavor has worked. Period.
The unfinished Ryugyong Hotel in Pyongyang are formed as a pyramid of the same reason. Sourcing high quality materials in North Korea forced such a design.
Only if you go by evidence and observation.
You’re supposed to go by what loosely fits the conclusions you started with, the ones that will sell your books and speaking engagement tickets at looney conventions.
With that in mind, clearly the aliens/Atlanteans made the really good ones, and then humans gradually made shittier and shittier ones as time passes and we _forgot how to make them_
(This is really one of their arguments. 🤦)
You got no rteal knowledge to the matter i see. The oldest ones, are the ones that are stand still, so there dor, there is no evolution, Plus after the great pyramids that are still stand, you got to undertand that pyramind after thatm were poorly constructed in the inside, but they would probably had a well cut granite or andesite, or other kinds of stone, that were probably removed, to build the next one, fromt the next pharao, or other cultures that invade egypt to their own constructions, like happens with the great pyramid, and all around.
5 palms 2 fingers is actually a deadly Dim Mak martial arts technique
I thought it was masturbation
5 palms 2 fingers sounds like a fun date to me.
I got 2 fingers for ya ,mÎÎm mÎÎm,
The dialogue of the ancient builders discussing hiding the “sacred geometry” had me cracking up. Too good!
Their sacred geometry is messing up my feng shui.
I don’t get why he’s discussing socles without mentioning shoesles.
@@MarcosElMalo2 - .^_^.
@@MarcosElMalo2 good one Chip
If you’re not precise in your writing, what else are you inaccurate about?
Really? Americans built something similar into one of their massive dams, showing how the stars were aligned, so future civilisations could know the date the dam was built. It was an encoded msg? So it shouldn’t be that hard to believe that other civilisations have done it. So unsure why it had you cracking up, when we have done exactly the same
Honestly, I tuned out of your channel about a year ago because I was getting frustrated waiting for you to finally cover the two biggest names in this whole game - Randal and Graham. I'm pleasantly surprised to come back to your channel and find that over the past 9 months you have indeed began to cover a lot of what they say, in depth. I'm really enjoying these well thought out responses. I would gladly listen to your take on every single topic they cover.
The stuff they say is so stupid and lengthy that any academic doesn’t have the time to comb through the stupidity and set the record straight. I’m happy people are doing it but it’s probably falling on deaf ears due to podcast listeners that number in the millions.
A thorough look at the big names of alternative history is long overdue.
Exactly.
Looking at them one by one in detail is an interesting look into folly, but better to name and shame the worst of them in one go so that people know who to watch out for.
Let's be real. No one who falls for the pseudo-science nonsense will ever come back to reality.
@@yaldabaoth2 some do. And these videos are important for the people who might be falling down and don't really have the means to be able to interpret the constant nonsense they're being exposed to, it gives them a lifeline before they become a dribbling pseudoscience fan. This is good work and it does help.
Yes this is good work. The blind leading the blind.
@@yaldabaoth2 some do. I loved the alt stuff, but once I actually started learning about these civilizations, I realized I was misguided and wrong, and realizing how many of these pseudohistory characters are frauds. Not everyone is open to accepting being wrong, though. It's quite odd.
As a physicist, I really enjoy this “myth busting” series. Thank you for this content!
The only drawback is the after watching one or two of yours YT assumes I am very much into the pseudo-science you bust and floods me with this nonsense 😂
Have you ever read the paper that was published in the journal of applied physics a few years back about Giza? I cant remember the name of the paper or the author but from my very limited understanding of physics it seems that their little computer model shows that the Giza complex might have been built in that manipulates radiowaves in some way. I know its just a computer model but if it can be shown to be an intrinsic feature of the pyramid itself wouldnt that kind of throw a wrench into the idea this stuff is nonsense? I cant imagine a way in which that happens by accident.
the name of the paper is "Electromagnetic properties of the Great Pyramid: First multipole resonances and energy concentration". I only understand how to program computers so this sort of applied phyiscs is well beyond my knowledge. I got no idea what most of that paper is even talking about but I never here anyone talking about it or trying to explain it. Maybe its a bad paper that shouldnt have been publish I dunno
@@iraniansuperhacker4382I just downloaded it and will have a look in the coming days :)
@iraniansuperhacker4382 I actually just looked this paper up. It costs USD40 to read. I didn't read it, but the abstract sounds like they're just bouncing some radio (or radar) off stuff. Lots of stuff reflects and scatters radio waves... like mountains, and planets, the moon, etc.
@@juliavixen176 there is a very nice website for getting papers 4 free ;-) but I think youtube censors the name.
For those who are interested on ACTUAL measurements of the Earth's size done in Ancient times, the earliest one recorded was made by the Greek-Egyptian researcher Eratosthenes during the 3rd Century BCE. And it was quite accurate for its time, as well. The documentary Cosmos (by Carl Sagan) made a piece about him back a few decades ago: ruclips.net/video/G8cbIWMv0rI/видео.html
It's also really fun because you can quite easily repeat it yourself if you just get a friend that lives roughly on the same longitude as you.
Was looking for this answer. Bravo
This is always one of my favorite types of videos you make. I don't think I had ever heard of this guy before your previous video about him. If I had, i don't recall him like I do some others for whatever reason.
What burns me up the most is when they just casually leave out known information because they know most people watching them don't know what they are leaving out.
Thanks for a great job as always.
It’s amazing they left so many clues using units of measurement that didn’t exist yet!
🤭 IKR. When LAHT prattles on about _"thousands of an inch"_ or whatever that becomes farcical on its' face as such metrics as you noted did not even exist at the time. What we see while in the case of buildings might have followed some level of planned dimensional outcome whereas others were often a result of aesthetics and the style of the time.
I'm sure an Egyptian potter as an example did not create a vase based upon anything more than achieving a certain look consistent with said style. Most of the "precision" LAHT rattles on about is of course = illusory.......
Right? Here's another one, "the sphinx is aligned to the Leo constellation and is 10,000 years old".
The Egyptians didn't use astrology until the hellinic period, about 280bc. So, their hypothesis is that the Egyptians aligned the sphinx and pyramids to things they wouldn't use for another 9,000 years?
They had a lot of forethought, apparently. Lol.
"The king says we gotta align this thing to leo".... "wtf is a leo?".... "who fucking knows. Just start stacking rocks".😅
@@DrSpoculus Use, recognition and display of constellations as we more or less recognize today go way back to stone age cave art in France. There is a lot of evidence for recognition of the constellations before the times of the Greeks and Babylonians. For a culture which main spiritual obsession was with the mystery of death and afterlife for thousands of years with a wealth of astronomical symbolism and observation it is quite irresponsible to dismiss outright the knowledge of the zodiacal cycle and constellations of early dynastic Egypt. Always remember we have lost our cosmic perspective in our modern light-polluted and fast-paced world. Our world-view has changed dramatically from our ancestors, and probably not for the better. Keep an reasoning open mind, it is a very important but scare ability in archeaology and history. Statement's such as ''The Egyptians didn't use astrology until the hellinic period, about 280bc.'' are non-productive and lead to dead-end conclusions and hinder progress in our understanding of the past.
I make no statements regarding the work of Randall Carlson, but I do recognize the rot in our current scientific thinking regarding our ancestors and their capabilities, and the conclusions being made upon very fragmentary and incomplete datasets as if they were authoritative end-of-discussion mandates.
@SD2001-p8q They make it harder for this mystery ancient civilization to exist the more they try to prove it exists.
Now, the civilization needs advanced units of measurement to explain this. Another hoop to jump through to prove they existed.
The more things they try to explain as an advanced civilization, the more advanced the civilization now has to be now.
To cut granite they need lasers, apparently. So now they have to be advanced enough to have laser tech. Another hoop they have to jump through.
The more they try to explain with "lost ancient advanced technology", the less likely it becomes.
47:00 we are supposed to be in a time of darkness and ignorance.
We actually live in the only time in human history where we are both figuratively and literally bathed in the light at the flick of a switch, and when all of human knowledge can be accessed in a nanosecond.
I think the Vayu Purana got things a little wrong...
Oh but at what cost to your conscious to humanity ?there is also much much pain in order to have that comfort ......might not be your pain .....yet...
It can also be wiped out in a nanosecond. How equipped are we to deal with that eventuality?
@@toucheturtle3840 No it can't do you even know how short a nanosecond is? Even the most destructive possible event like a close by supernova would take at least a few seconds to wipe out life on Earth.
Yay, this will be fun :) It's nice to see such a long video.
Thank you David Miano and Kaitlyn Burnell for the information! I used to read Randall Carlson's Books, as well as Graham Hancock's books, and I had the wool fully pulled over my eyes. Now I cannot believe that I once bought into that hullabaloo. I appreciate this channel and look forward to watching future videos!
Your problem is you're going from belief to belief. Seek the truth with no belief, and you'll be more alert to life around you.
@GLaDOS_WR - I used to read such books when I was young, too. I'm glad I stopped. Reality is so much more exciting. I don't want to waste another second of my life on garbage like Carlson and Hancock.
@@ccoodd26 - It's never a problem when someone moves from a state of sleepwalking to the tune of a scammer to a state of being fully awake and seeking knowledge from mentors who know what they are talking about. @GLaDOS_WR-1 is doing well.
Yes, they provided a lot of information. But almost nothing actually debunks his theory. Both Graham and Carlson can get pretty "out there," but they also get a lot of stuff right. It's almost like they're real people.
@@MossyMozartjust because there may be a few things that may be off or completely wrong doesn't mean everything they say is completely bogus
Dr. Miano, thank you for this video! i hope lots of people see it
"I totally believe a PhD in Philosophy teaming up with a Mathematician to discuss geology, masonry, surveying, civil engineering and architecture. Since most of the experts agree it must be fact!"
@@Tucker93669 - Dr Miano is a historian.
@@Tucker93669what?
@@Tucker93669 his PhD is in History with emphasis on Ancient Israel and the Near East. He taught History at UCSD, and STFMS. This is publicly available information
I eagerly await your videos debunking the strange, sclerotic, and insular views of self-proclaimed experts in fields far afield from their own expertise. Masterful work!
@mtreder4 - "Sclerotic" is a good descriptor.
I must admit this wasn't as enjoyable as I thought it would be. I was hoping for an exciting clash between a mainstream historian and a creative maverick outsider but after about ten minutes the maverick's thesis was so bad it almost came across as bullying to debunk his work.
It's a frustrating position for real historians to be in. These grifter types easily seduce those with a natural conspiracy bent, a distrust of government and authority, and a delusional self image that makes them think they can watch a few Tik Tok videos or Rogan podcasts and know more than real scientists, archaeologists and historians on a subject, so the desire to combat this nonsense is a sincere one.
But to put together a well presented, fully researched feature length piece like this, pretty much succeeds in demolishing the arguments in the first few minutes and the rest feels like punching down.
I do hope that you do more Dr Miano, I'd love a full research rebuttal into Jimmy Corsetti, as he annoys me the most, but I feel that again, in practice, it would just feel like you're picking on an idiot and being mean.
I’d love to see Miano vs Corsetti. Corsetti has some good ideas but also some very wrong ones, imo.
As for this video…can you imagine anyone doing a better job being entertaining AND thorough while debunking Carlson? I can’t.
@@maidende8280 by saying the video wasn't as fun as I thought it would be, I rather meant the level of research by Miano far surpasses the claims of Carlsen. If this was a boxing fight, it would have been a first round KO with Miano continuing to punch Carlsen's lifeless corpse for 11 more rounds.
It's a conundrum. I love to see this stuff thoroughly debunked, but once the real science and research comes into play it quickly becomes apparent that this is a total mismatch. I think Corsetti's would look ridiculous after about 6 minutes of Miano talking. I'm all for it though!
To be fair, people like Carlson amd Hancock make a lot of money spinning their nonsense and have quite influential platforms which they use to spread misinformation. I get what you are saying about the rebuttal coming across as mean, but I do think Carlson and co deserve getting dunked on.
@@girondinant yeah they definitely deserve it, I agree. Both have done extremely well financially as well as finding a kind of cult status with this niche field.
Considering that Carlson has a grade school level grasp of math it's like a kid fighting Mike Tyson.
The Egyptian angle measurement system is honestly kinda genius, it's obviously limited but it makes the math really simple and is easy to measure.
I dont get why its easier if its 7 except that that limits the angle to a pyramid shape rather than a very tall tower shape.
Look, I'll put this to rest. I'm a time traveller and we built the pyramids in 3094. It took a small team a few weeks using our technology and we sent them back in time to mess with people.
Obviously the pyramids are too hard to build with even 21st century technology, so I don't know why everyone is trying to say people built them thousands of years ago.
Don't listen to this guy. I'm from 3122, and our senior prank in space high school was to take a couple days to make the Pyramids and send them back in time to swap them with the ones the 3094 team were prepping to send back in time to Egypt.
@@valritz1489 I am from 4124 and y'all lying ....
I'm going to having taken my TARDIS back to the past in order to proving you wrong. Then you have shall seen!
@@valritz1489 one of you is lying
Can you please do something constructive with your "Time Travelling expertise and undo the 2020 US election.
You have and can have no idea how imporant your work is to me. Every time I get too overwhelmed with my inability to engage in the social conversation, you release the video in my heart. Thank you so much.
"Peremiter" had me dead 💀
A typo sets you right off huh? Wow
Spell Check police. Critical thinking stops at a misspelled word.
A mistake in youtube comment sets you off? Lol. It's not War and Peace get over yourself.
@@mystijkissler8183no but when this man has got everything else terribly wrong and he then proceeds to ruin spelling too isn't a great look. If he had got some things right nobody would care about a misspelling or two
@@lucifer-ic9th terribly wrong? this video doesn't prove anything beyond an ad populum fallacy and appeal to authority fallacy.
The citation doesn't show that the area around the sphinx was completely flooded for 6500 years either.
I’m a big fan of this channel, we really need more knowledgeable people engaging with the general population. It seems that more and more fantastic story tellers are capturing our interest and really distorting our understanding of the past. Would you consider curating a booklist of well researched, interesting ancient history publications?
This is gonna be a good one.
Ooh boy here we go folks! New World of Antiquity just dropped!
Próf. Miano, thank you for being one of the only channels on RUclips that, rather than directing their arguments towards personal attacks of the claimant, instead arguing the claims with evidence and science.
We need more good faith scholarship on this platform, and many could learn a lot from your style of take down!
Unfortunately, the personal attacks are more popular.
Yeah, i'm not interested in people punching down on another person
I'm interested in the facts (or lack there of, in these cases)
I would give anything to listen to Randall Carlson and Jesse Ventura have a conversation for 5 minutes 😆 they sound so alike, lol
ROFL 🤣
It’s probably because I just had a edible that hitting me way harder than expected, but after the 30th time hearing “5 palms, 2 fingers” I couldn’t stop laughing for like 5 minutes
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In Melbourne Australia around the 1980's we had a radio show ran by lawyers called The Liars Club on 3RRR FM. Essentially they publicly debunked any 'personality' who told porky pies and spread misinformation. One memorable show involved buying tickets to a worldwide lecture tour by a 'scholar' of some forgotten discipline, who claimed he'd found the petrified wooden remains of Noah's Ark on a mountainside in Turkey. Of course blurry photos where provided to whet the appetite. After asking some challenging questions that such a momentous discovery deserved, they where promptly shown the door. My memory is a little hazy, but in a nut shell, true.
If you ask those kinds of people for hard evidence, they will lash out at you, call you a shill for academia and block you lol
Sounds like Ron Wyatt, a legendary fake archeologist who claimed to have found all sorts of Biblical artifacts.
Wtf does that have to do with this you and the creator if this video are just full of shit beechs
Lawyers in a Liars Club... seems redundant.
Dr. Miano, great video. I can't financially help my favourite youtubers right now because of my income limitations, but once i do, you will be one of the first. Thanks sir.
Sphinx is carved from bedrock that is currently touching ground water. The water underground causes the surface stone to erode.
"I totally believe a PhD in Philosophy teaming up with a Mathematician to discuss geology, masonry, surveying, civil engineering and architecture. Since most of the experts agree it must be fact!"
Very happy you took the time for this, saw these guys on JRE. I knew they we're spewing and couldn't believe the lack of any challenge and how popular they became.
It's crazy I used to love Carlson and Handcock but the more I rewatched the more I realised they were full of shit
same, also note how with people like uncharted X its all about selling the tours.
no. they are the Keepers of Ancient Wisdom. persecuted and disregarded geniuses akin to Galileo & Kepler.
kneel, lowly dog and worship at the feet of your Ascended Masters!!
@@chuckleezodiac24 I genuinely can't tell if you're joking.
@@hedgehog3180 thanks! i've been working on it. trying to blur the lines between Delusional Atlantard & Sarcastic Troll.
@@chuckleezodiac24 You definitely fooled me lmao.
In regards to the number 25,920 -- i.e. the supposed number of years in a 'Great Year' or Precessional Cycle, as calculated by 'the Ancients' -- it should be noted that whereas the solar day is commonly divided into 24 hours x 60 minutes x 60 seconds = 86,400 seconds, the Jewish Calendar divides the day into 24 hours x 1,060 halakhim ['parts' or 'portions'] x 76 regaim ['moments'], for a total of 25,920 halakhim = 1,969,920 regaim, where each 'helek' ['part'] = 10/3 seconds = 3.333... seconds, and each rege` ['moment'] is 1/22.8 of a second. When it says in 1 Corinthians 15:52 that "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet" the Righteous shall be 'changed' into immortal spirit-bodies, the phrase "in a moment" translates the Greek words "en atomw" (where 'o' is an omicron, and 'w' is an omega) -- the same word where we get the English word 'atom', meaning 'unsplittable', denoting the smallest conceivable unit of Time as the Ancients understood it, equivalent to the Hebrew rege` [spelled Resh-Gimel-Ayin] being the smallest unit of Time, a 'moment', the twinkling of an eye, or, rather, the time it takes to blink.
The fact that there are 76 regaim in one helek might have something to do with 76 being equivalent to 19 x 4. There are 19 years in a cycle of 235 synodic months, so perhaps the smallest unit of Time was intended to be a microcosmic analogue to the 19-year cycle, or to 4 such cycles, since 76 years is awful close to the median of the average lifespan of a man, as given in Psalm 90:10 ["The years of our life are threescore and ten, or even by reason of strength fourscore"], i.e. between 70 and 80 years. One rege`/'moment' would be to one helek/'part' what one Year is to an average Lifespan.
This Jewish/Hebrew/Biblical system of 'parts' and 'moments' is obviously different from our 'minutes' and 'seconds' method, and it seems to go back at least to the 3rd Century, when Hillel II "made public the system of calendar calculation which up to then had been a closely guarded secret . . . when oppression and persecution threatened the continued existence of the Sanhedrin" [THE COMPREHENSIVE HEBREW CALENDAR by Arthur Spier, page 2]. The system probably dates back at least to the 5th Century BCE -- Spier indicates it was in use throughout the period of the Second Temple (516 BCE to 70 CE).
Why divide the Hour into 1,080 'parts' rather than into 60 minutes x 60 seconds = 3,600 seconds? If a macrocosmic human lifespan of around 76 years (i.e. 4 cycles of 19 years) can be juxtaposed with a microcosmic unit of Time equivalent to 76 'moments', then doesn't it follow that the Ancients may have discovered the Precession of the Equinoxes and calculated it to be 25,920 years, with the Hebrews subdividing a solar Day into 25,920 'parts' as a microcosmic analogue to that macrocosmic unit of Time? THE ASTRONOMICAL COMPANION by Guy Ottewell has the rate of Precession as 25,800 years, making the 'ancient' figure of 25,920 years 99.5370370370...% accurate, which isn't too shabby, and allows for subdivisions of 12 zodiacal 'signs'/'houses' x 2,160 years-per-sign/house . . . 72 years-per-degree x 360 degrees . . . 50 arc-seconds per year (i.e. 1,296,000 arc-seconds in a circle divided by 25,920 years), etc.
I don't subscribe to everything that Randall Carlson pontificates on, but the contemplation of 'Sacred Numbers' goes back thousands of years, and for most of that time the subject was probably kept secret by priesthoods and their initiates, so that 'profane' people couldn't muck up the works. The notion that certain 'Knowledge' regarding these sacred numbers was enshrined in Myths is not a foolish one; indeed, Joseph Campbell (no slouch when it came to the study of world myths) wrote a book about the subject, THE INNER REACHES OF OUTER SPACE. By all means, fault Randall for his bad spelling and for misquoting an occasional source, but don't throw the baby out with his bathwater. We still don't know how the f*@& the Egyptians were able to get those humongous granite blocks all the way up to the levels they're situated in the Great Pyramid -- a feat which modern attempts at pyramid constructing fails miserably at.
While interesting, your calendar does not address any of the discussion in the video, other than you also seem to believe in sacred numbers. Carlson is fabricating the numbers, to support his theory that there are sacred numbers "encoded" in the dimensions of pyramids.Whether you believe in the validity of sacred numbers is moot, because he's making up the evidence. Also, it's no secret how the pyramids were built, but there is some debate where the ramps were
Thank you for the excellent comment.
@@AlabamaAerialPhenomena Ma gavte la nada.
The mystery continues.
If you love the astronomical then your heart is numbering the stars personally
Now what sucks about all of this is when a content creator proposes an alternative theory but clearly isn't very curious about the topic because they haven't researched to find out the basic facts. This alternative theory about the creation of the Sphinx means ignoring so much of what scholars have learned in presented to the world about ancient Egypt. And if you're not curious about a topic then why would you think that you have a better theory and should be telling people about it?
Because he cant come up with his own content! I guarantee Miano or any of his specialists have NEVER come up with a proprietary idea or theory about anything. He's just feeding off controversy. Tyler, we should steal their content and start a channel debunking the debunkers - because these pinheads are useless lol.
@@freyfreygoodwin please make a debunking the debunkers channel I'd love the laugh.
It's kind of funny that you're talking about how errors in translating the king's list accumulate over time, while showing After School's king list, the last entry of which is mistranscribed as XLSUHTROS ..
I have had a brush with some numerologists, one of them quite personally (as the editor of an annual booklet where he really wanted to publish his work). I came out of this recurring and exhausting encounter with a view that numerology is a short-cirquit mode of our brain. They quite honestly and seriously say "look, I put some numbers together and calculated this thing, and look, is sort of matches that other thing if you squint, so it must be profound and everyone needs to hear about it". Some numbers roughly matching some other numbers is all the proof they need; it doesn't matter where these numbers come from, and therefore, a numerologist can easily prove any claim because he just needs to do some calculation with arbitrary numbers that then match some other arbitrary numbers, and voila, you have proof that the cat has wings.
So, yeah, Carlson does not need facts, he can just calculate things, divide by two, multiply by ten, because things, doesn't matter, it works, and the result is proof enough that Sumerian clay tablets had the 42 in them.
42 is the answer to Life, the Universe, & Everything according to the Hitch-hiker's Guide.
There's a really good XKCD about it.
It’s called a teleology and is one of the most persistent logical fallacies in history, and History! 😂
I am truly terrible when it comes to maths. As soon as I see a whole bunch of numbers, calculations, and measurements my brain just shuts down and goes into safe mode. Kaitlyn is obviously a math genius or something but she might as well have been talking in a different language. So it boils down to do I believe Kaitlyn's numbers or Carlson's ?...Kaitlyn wins every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I'm pretty good with geometry... Kaitlyn could've explained it MUCH more clearly, especially when explaining Egyptian units and preferences... but yeah, go with her numbers over RC's, who's essentially combing the cherry orchard for heart-shaped cherries, so that he can prove that the ancient cherry growers were trying to develop heart-shaped cherries... and he couldn't find enough perfect ones, so some of them are like, really?
@@GizzyDillespeeThis is the RUclips comments section right ?. I kinda got the feeling Kaitlyn is not used to talking to a whole bunch of thick people. When it comes to math and geometry..I'm defiantly one. It could have been explained in a way more people would understand, but I understood enough and enjoyed the vid. Thanks for reply.
I’m good at maths & there’s no competition. But you don’t need to be good at maths to understand that Carlson is reaching far beyond logic, as depicted in Miano’s hypothetical conversation between the builders.
The math isn't actually all that important, the more important point is just that Carlson is deliberately cherry picking specific measurements in specific units in order to fit his conclusion. Like notice how he'll randomly switch between imperial and metric without actually converting between the two, he's doing that so he can get the numbers to match whatever conclusion he wants. Also occasionally he'll actually use ancient Egyptian units like the cubit and the seked but only when it fits his conclusion, which seems odd since surely it'd make the most sense to talk about the pyramids using the units of the people who made them right? Like the Egyptians or anyone prior to them couldn't possibly have known about the modern American Foot or Meter, both of those units were only created about 4000 years after the great pyramids were built.
The guy uses the language of charlatans. He encourages people to do things like "let it roll around in your head" or "as you should be seeing by now" to make his listeners feel like they're VERY SMART. Huge red flag.
Great video, professor. Thanks for breaking this down in a scientific way without vitriol or sensationalism.
There's a lot of appeal to scientific consensus going on here, as well.
Meanwhile, scientific truth does not care about scientific consensus.
History is full of examples of antiquated scientific consensus swept to the dust bin.
@@FakeMoonRocks I agree there is a problem with orthodoxy in science, but at the same time I fully believe the Scientific Method, if followed rigorously, provides the most accurate representation of reality.
People like Randall Carlson take far too many shortcuts for my liking and dismiss criticisms of their work whike appealing mostly to emotion and politics for reasons they are typically disregarded. Instead of, you know, the supposedly scientific grounds of their work. Again the means by which Randall Carlson operates in screams "Charlatan!" To me. If you want to believe him, by all means, you are within your right and I am 100% against censoring any voice, but I implore you to arm yourself with some kind of standard in scientific discourse...
I’m really worried there are people out there feeling smart
@@FakeMoonRocks just a distain for charlatans like Carlson. Don't be upset about it.
To be honest, I don't see him as a charlatan. He seems to really believe what he's saying, so you may call him an idiot, but then he manages to earn money with what he enjoys and believes in, so he might not be an idiot either.
I see him as a somewhat crazy guy with some crazy ideas, but harmless.
I mean there is public discourse about his claims, he will be forgotten in the end, or proven right and remembered.
Both are fine in my book.
Oh and I'm sure there are some charlatans in this scene, but he doesn't seem like one.
I think the video, like all of the other debunking videos, is fantastic. I hate sounding negative when everything else is so positive is that I found Dr. Burnell's slides a bit confusing at first glance because the symbol she used for each point of her presentation looked just like a decimal point so some of the numbers looked like decimals (.22) instead of whole numbers (22).
Theres a lot of drawing space on the pyramids, it seems to me to be far easier to just write down the measurements rather than trying to encode them into the design of the pyramids. Non engineers seem to think engineering is about being clever, it isnt, its about getting things done. Its also about constant tradeoffs, encoding things into a design is error prone, time consuming and expensive and your pharaoh client just wants it done.
the original white limestone coating was allegedly covered in hyeroglyphs - so it was probably written down
Yeah sounds a lot more like an egotistical architects idea 😂
@@bobobobos2425 really because the bottom casing stones aren’t, this is just an unsubstantiated rumour
Also encoding natural constants into a building is like a very modern idea, like that's the kind of thing we might do as a fun gag when making an art project or building the new physics department. It wouldn't really make sense for a society that hasn't developed science since they wouldn't place any special value on these constants, and also obviously wouldn't know them. We only care about them because we live in a technology and science based society so science and its achievements hold great value to us but an Ancient Egyptian would probably think that's kinda silly compared to honoring the Pharoah since they more or less saw the Pharoah as a god.
@@hedgehog3180 I just don't buy that the builders were primitive or accidently got it right why is it so hard for people to admit that we have no clue who built them or how or what they were for? 🤔
The other thing I just realized (maybe I'm a bit slow) after watching so many of these guys talk about impressive numbers "recorded" in those construction is that since ancient people could write, why would they record numbers in construction instead of recording them in books or other writing materials. If the ancient egyptians knew the speed of light (in meters per second), why did they record that in the lattitude of their pyramid instead of writing it on a stella or on a papyrus for everyone to see and every student to learn, I do wonder. Maybe because it was meant to be secret and only understood 3,000 years later after the meter and the second were invented 🙂
Also like it's only possible to “discover” these numbers after you already have a seperate measurement of the speed of light in meters, there's no possible way to figure any of this out if you didn't already know the speed of light, which to me would seem to suggest that any correlation is just an accident. I mean why would you ever encode measurements like this in such a weird way? No one does that, like we just write down the value directly, we don't build a huge fucking stone monument and then expect everyone to spend 2 hours juggling around numbers to figure out what the speed of light actually is.
ratios do not care about measurement discrepancies
@@hedgehog3180 Indeed. But that's the conspiracy theorist's state of mind. The mysterious "they" don't want regular people to know so they hide it. Only the "awaken" ones, the special ones, the chosen ones, can see the truth.
It's another way of saying "look at me I'm very intelligent and I'm special".
how many books have lasted thousands of years intact? Do you not understand the importance of symbolism in record keeping?
The ratio of the pyramids base to earth ratio is 432000, thats with accuracy, radius of sun is 432,000, speed of light is 432 squared, kali yuga 43,200 theres a lot more as well the whole yugas cycle is based around that number, also look up the dark side of the switch from 432hz to 440hz after ww2
His idea falls flat just by the fact that 0 Longitude i.e prime meridian which is Greenwich observatory wasn't a standard until the 19th century.. So if the Ancient Egyptians even had any idea about Latitude and Longitude they would have no idea that in future Greenwich would be chosen as prime meridian and their measurement would have been different...
They literally used the same math to determine the prime meridian... 360 degrees for a circle, divided by hours and minutes. Math that goes back to at least 5000 BC.
David your channel is wonderful. Thank you for creating great content
Nice analysis. You missed the hidden point (given by the 40,000 year old dates) that he is actually talking about Neanderthal math. The Sphinx has a sloped forehead and deep brows, so it's obvious they built the pyramids and left them for the the Egyptians as their great strength was needed to pick up large stones and polish them. The Neandrathals had larger feet so that fixes the errors in measurements. They were related to Homo erectus which is a great name and justification for measuring the circumference of the earth. Sapiens botched everything up, when they hunted the Ancients to extinction and plagiarised the Neanderthal sacred math.
Changing the units (assuming larger feet, or whichever units) doesn't change the ratios. For example, the ratio between the pyramid's base and the Earth's circumference stays the same no matter what units you measure them with... as long as you're consistent. By inconsistent, I mean, for example, if you measure the pyramid with one arbitrary unit (feet) and measure the Earth with a different arbitrary measurement (meters), then the ratio is meaningless. The units have to be the same for both measurements, if you want their ratios to have physical meaning. But it doesn't matter which unit you choose to measure with. This is the kind of thing that seems to confuse people at first, and then to be really obvious, once people think about it for a minute.
Also, many of RC's claims of perfect mathematical correspondences are wrong... as this video shows, many of the measurements he mentions aren't as accurate or precise as he says they are... and some of them don't even fall within the margin of error for his calculations.
As far as Neanderthals... I REALLY wish we could find some Neanderthal community that was preserved thru time by a sudden catastrophic volcano eruption... a Neanderthal village version of Pompei. They died so long ago that material preservation is limited. I wish we knew more about Neanderthals. I saw the Why Files episode on them, which made them seem like the urukai from Lord Of The Rings (I'm serious... it got over a million views). There was some good storytelling, but it's educated speculation. I wish we knew more definitively.
I wish Elon Musk got a Neanderthal's DNA and cloned him/her, and eventually we make an army of Neanderthal slaves, to do what the AI robots won't be able to... until those 2 factions rise up against us, and take over the world. Okay, I take back that wish - I didn't think it thru. But I still wish we knew more about Neanderthals.
I didn't mention the sphinx head proportions, because I believe the sphinx's head has been renovated and changed at least once since its original shape. It's so much smaller than the body, and it looks so much less weathered than the rest of the sculpture. It's really obvious that the head is a newer carving - just look at a tourist video that rotates around the sphinx, looking at the difference between the body and the head (especially the face - the back of the neck is smoother than the sphinx's body, but apparently less was removed from the head-dress side), and see how much smaller and newer the head appears to be. So, we can't use the facial features or neck to obtain any useful information about the original head and neck.
@@GizzyDillespee We should selectively breed to increase Neanderthal DNA. I have 6% and I’m pretty awesome. I think the Neanderthals were superior in many ways including intellectually but I *may* be biased.
One of my theories is they never truly died out, they just hybridised with Homo sapiens & live in hiding, breeding amongst themselves. Possibly in a biosphere…
This is so nonsensical that I can’t tell if it’s a hilarious joke or a Randall Carlson quote 😂. Either way I’m laughing!
@@krakensquatch What. You thought I was serious. Surely you don't think Neandrathals possess space age tech. They had a hard time chasing wolly mammoths to bother with measuring the distance to the moon.
Actually , if you make a slope that of the great pyramid , which is the phi slope, you can measure the rotational speed of the earth. Since the speed is measuring rotaion it would measure the sun rays that travel from top to bottom and you can actually correlate time and distance . That way , you can create a time unit that is actually based on earth rotation, I would call it a "second". o_O
I wonder how the shadow in relationship to the angle changes throughout the day and year.
@@mshaffer-2629 All it takes is to install a 360 cam on the pyramid top for a year , I wonder If one can sneak a drone on top without someone noticing....
@@מוגוגוגו They have been using shadow to measure time since the dawn of man, IMO. A good outdoorsman (not me) can find true north in about 10 minutes by observing a shadow.
Wouldn't you need to know the size of the earth to do that cos a small earth would see that differently no?
@@Padraigp I don't understand what you trying to calculate.. But if you have the speed of rotation , you can calculate the size.
Imagine the IRS agent that has to sort through this guys tax return
Very interesting, love the mix with interview.
The whole theory hangs on the idea that the pyramid of Cheops is the oldest.
But it isn't. It's neither the first nor the last pyramid build.
And the greeks indeed measured and calculated the size of the earth with an error of less than 3%.
And the greek mathematician who did it, did it in Egypt. By measuring the shadow of a pole.
And the whole angle/length/tan stuff is 10th degree math. No need to study maths for that.
Tis the science of Rogan & Coast2Coast-AM radio.
Funny how that ancient advanced civilization was so skilled in stoneworking they could build the pyramids ten millenia before the Egyptians but decided not to use it to build their own homes?
We are very skilled stone workers today. That's why all of us live in stone houses, right?
@@framegrace1 many of us do, since concrete is, in fact, stone.
@@framegrace1 The US is like the only country in the world where homes are regularly made out of plywood, in literally every other country homes are built from brick and concrete, the US just uses uniquely cheap and shitty construction techniques.
@@framegrace1We don’t have that level of skill for the hardness and size of stones used.
I fell down the Graham Hancock/Randall Carlson rabbithole a couple years back... but I always remained skeptical of some of their claims. This channel, World of Antiquity, has opened my mind to a critical way of thinking, which I wish I could share with some of my colleagues without them feeling like their strongly held conspiracy theory beliefs are being attacked 🤔
Damn I think I'm currently in said rabbithole 😢 are there any channels/people you can suggest to educate myself properly? 🤘
@@user-ol2mr4bx7c Miniminuteman is pretty good, also this channel.
The hypothetical conversation between Bob and "The Dude" is how I imagine many conversations taking place in many of the conspiracies that I've played out in my own mind. Except the guy I'm talking to is named Bill....not Bob. But yeah....do this for all conspiratorial conversations, and you'll see how silly it sounds.
Do you think Epstein killed himself?
"I totally believe a PhD in Philosophy teaming up with a Mathematician to discuss geology, masonry, surveying, civil engineering and architecture. Since most of the experts agree it must be fact!"
@@Tucker93669 The implied appeal from authority, does not persuade.The biggest aspect of belief in anything is wanting what you believe, to be true. Confirmation bias, misrepresentation/misinterpretation of data, cherry picking and just plain ol makin shit up are the tools of the trade for all charlatans.
I believe in a lot you don’t (or am at least very open to the possibility), which makes your content debunking the obvious lies all the more important. I appreciate your honesty & professionalism!
Did you watch both or just this guys 'analysis' of what Carleson said? I haven't seen either yet, but I've caught this guy mischaracterizing what other people have said and he didn't have the integrity to admit it.
@@francischambless5919 I have not seen this particular presentation of Carlson’s. I really don’t need to, though. I have watched other content from Carlson, & I’ve found him suspect before. Not so with Dr. Miano. Can you point to an example of such behaviour from him? It would be very out of character…
@@maidende8280 it would take time to look it up, but Miano was presenting a rebuke on Ben's UnchartedX review of Dynastic jars. My suggestion is to watch the jar videos, listen to Ben making a joke that others say the jars were made from Atlantis. Then watch Miano's rebuke where he intentionally mischaracterizes many things said via Ben regarding the research.
@@maidende8280 It's either this one or one of the earlier ones.
ruclips.net/video/QzFMDS6dkWU/видео.html
I'm not a huge fan of people like Brien Forester or Graham Hancock. They tend to lose me when they speculate into their own thoughts of purposes on things and who built the most exceptional, etc... I certainly am nowhere near buying into that Aliens have ever visited this planet at any point, and to Ben's credit I've never heard him say so. At times I hear them theorize about hidden meanings inscribed mathematically in objects like some vases they've scanned, but my focus tends to gravitate more towards the how things are made. There are a load of rational, reasonable and objective questions I'm searching answers for, and the 'historian' side coming from Antiquity flatly avoids and instead persecutes you for even asking.
An example I offer, is the place I currently live in may have my DNA, my artwork, some wooden things I've built, carbon dateable elements, etc.... However coming in after me doesn't gift me credit for having built the whole place, only confirms I was here. This is the fault I see, one of many with people like this 'dr'. Where he draws the line and would use people like Carleson who speculate wild ideas at times to denigrate, he will not engage honestly and earnestly into the areas Carleson DOES have merit.
The thing I wonder most abot Carlson's calculations is: Does he really believe in all that BS or is he only trying to hoodwink people enough that they buy his books?
My guess is the latter choice.
I've thought about this as well. Considering how many deliberate number tricks you need to do to get to his results I deem it highly improbable that he's unconscious of the fact that he's manipulating the numbers. Repeatedly.
So in this case I infer an intention. Guilty beyond reasonable doubt, or what's the phrase?
@@Spielkalb-von-Sparta There can be a lot of reinforcement going into this type of delusion. Get a bad number? well maybe you just put them together wrong. Get the same bad number several times? Hey you just discovered a new sacred number to add to your series. And don't forget that you can just multiply by a small number any time you see a near match, and justify it somehow.
@@rianfelis3156Yeah, this might counts as a "reasonable doubt."
I've once heard the argument that intelligent people aren't less vulnerable to conspiracy theories because they've got more means to delude themselves. Could be similar here.
No, he is also fooling himself, it is what happens when folks don't expose themselve to peer review, Carlson is probably very intelligent and figured things out for himself, therefor hardly ever corrected, and then you can go south very south... just like scientists can.
The first time I saw him he was being interviewed and getting pressed and broke down. He's on the grift grind for sure with his pal Graham
Something to keep in mind about Randall and Graham Hancock, is that they’ve both done their share of, and probably most of our shares of psychedelics lol.
Thank you so much for your work.
I was a fan of RC until he started to fall in to energy production, since than I was searching for you Sir.
My BS meter went off and You and the lovely young Lady confirmed my consideration.
Sadly english is only my third language so I hope I am some what understandable.
Nice greetings from austria
Randall Carlson does not have the technology to make that hypothesis. He must have had help from aliens.
The mathematician is as gifted a communicator as Dr. Miano is gifted in mathematics. I appreciate the effort. The struggle is real.
Yeah she failed to land the plane a couple times so I was personally struggling to follow along at points.
Kind of an interesting juxtaposition with Carlson, who always speaks clearly and concisely. Who would the layman be more inclined to believe?
@@chazdomingo475Dr. Miano himself is also a very crisp communicator.
@Clone42 - Ms Burnell sometimes assumed we knew more than some of us do (meaning me!). But she was NOWHERE near as baffling as Carlson!
I had no trouble understanding them. Maybe it just went over your head.
1:37:47 Oh that's his game, he's selling alien influence rather than human ingenuity discovery and curiosity.
he's actually not... but im sure you also checked the citations of this grifter, didn't you?
I have a Classical Education which includes a degree in philosophy and part of that program was a course in Symbolic Logic which was hands down the most useful class I have ever taken, bar none. It never ceases to amaze me how many amateurs and professionals in every field (especially science) make poor (invalid) arguments due to their lack of understanding of what logic is and how to use it as a tool. I've watched many of Randall's videos and while he's just sharing his opinion I think he's coming from a good, heart centered place, unlike many promoters of woo throughout history. I tell anyone who listen, if you really want to make good (valid) logical arguments then take a course in Symbolic Logic. Otherwise you're just giving people your opinion dressed up as an argument.
Is that a roman feet or an egyptian feet or a modern barbarian (US) feet?
1:28:19 just trying to remember to show my husband lol. This guy always makes me laugh. Thank you. I look forward to all your videos.
Some guy scoffed about Stefan Milo on his channel : " This guy thinks the Egyptians built the pyramids? ". The stupidity is unending
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Thumbs up for recommending Stefan Milo's channel. He's also done a great job in debunking Hancock's Netflix series.
@@Spielkalb-von-Spartahi. About to watch the presentation now. By the way it wasn't my intention to advertise his channel it was to provide background to the ludicrous comments. Pond skaters like Hancock and Carlsson and their conspiracy archaeology are as inevitable and contagious as venereal disease in a cat house unfortunately .
If you divide the distance of the Earth to the moon by the height of the great pyramid you get 2,621,942 which coincides with some of the lower estimates of the Mayan population at its peak. How did the Egyptians know the future population of a culture on a continent they presumably never heard of? I spend a while one weekend studying the Egyptian and Mayan cultures and noticed that they BOTH BUILT PYRAMIDS. This seems like too much of a coincidence that 2 cultures so far apart with supposedly no contact would both build pyramids so obviously the Mayans either visited Egypt or the Mayans had descended from Egyptians.
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Ancient stories say they could communicate around the world with the technology(probably something to do with the pyramids) they had.
UnchartedX and randal had me fooled for a few hours until I had the time to do my own digging. If it weren't for them, i would have never found this channel!
Don't put Randall and x in the same category. Randall is at least original and invents his own stuff. Uncharted just repeats everyone else's stuff. He is a fat lazy ass. Just like that dim no sight .
I don’t get why more people aren’t repelled by these fat slobs. I find it very difficult to take people seriously who can’t even take care of themselves properly. Also I can’t stand looking at them.
Hi, I've been watching Randall's kosmographia episodes a lot and I want to understand where he's going wrong, I'm not sure about the sacred geometry stuff but are the kosmographia episodes sound facts or is he wrong? And in what ways? I'm trying to understand particularly his views and hypothesis' about climate change as opposed to people like Myles Allen and his recent lecture 'the ice is melting' for example. 🫶
@@user-ol2mr4bx7c if i know enough to have a valuable opinion ill watch these episodes and get back with you.
yes , you sooooo smart . NOT . more thatn a few hours fool , sounds like a lifetime for you
I told you id watch your videos. 😊 Now you have sent me down a rabbit hole of information. 😂 Thanks! ❤
debunking another nut job brought to us by JRE, it's a long list, but it has to be done
so hes a nutjob because he states information you disagree with.... take your meds dude
that is not how any of this works, kid@@notafortnitegamer
@@notafortnitegamer you're spazzing out all over this comment section haha
@@Crannogman4686ah yes im spazzing out cause I posted a couple of comments lol
@@notafortnitegamer I'm doing it too haha
4:10 "master builder" if homie doesnt pull out LEGO to back up that claim he'll have hell to pay courtesy of your local brick bangers
he's built more buildings than anyone at world of antiquity...
You're buying the grift from a Philosopher that doesn't understand simple figures in his citations.
Its a mason rank you dolt…
Wow! I wasn't a believer in Carlson before, but now I'm convinced! How else can you explain that an ancient civilization knew that US Department of Defense would, starting in 1970, initiate a geodesic cartographic system that would measure the polar radius at 6,356,750.52 meters? I mean, that's 3,949.901649368 miles! Which is almost what Carlson thinks the height of the pyramid in feet times 43,200 is!
Sure, if you were actually using the WGS-72 polar radius you'd need the height of pyramid to be 482.765757145 feet for the numbers to match, but whatever! Close enough!
Even more amazingly, that long-lost ancient civilization somehow knew that the 1972 data (WGS-72) would be updated by WGS-84, when the polar radius would be pegged at 6,356,752.3142 meters, or 3949.90276423189 miles. So the ancients built the pyramid to be a height (in feet) that would match a specific geodetic survey that was only in international use for 12 years!
Wait. 12 years....12 symbols of the zodiac. Number the English alphabet (A=1, B=2, etc) and WGS is 23,7,19. 23,719 is the National Library of Medicine gene ID for DFNA30; a phenotype associated with deafness. And if you are deaf, and cannot hear, you must look so that you can see - thus this remarkable ancient civilization used the WGS-72 data to convey the importance of looking at apophenia within measurements of the pyramid rather than listening to what experts know about the pyramid.
Truly amazing.
When you say "Polar radius", just what do you mean by that?
@@andrewdavies8794 As I understand it, "polar radius" is the distance from the earth's geometric center to either pole (North or South), whereas "equatorial radius" is the distance from the earth's geometric center to any meridian at the equator.
I got the values I used from here, which has a pretty interesting write-up of the subject: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_radius
Very funny. I have several videos about the logical fallacies of the Orion Correlation Theory on my RUclips channel.
@@andrewdavies8794 The radius of the Earth at the poles.
And we know the distance to 4 decimal places. I don't think we do.
glyphs written on the blocks of the pyramid by the gangs hauling the stone into place and found inside the vaulting of the kings room have the name of Khufu. The access to the vaulting had to be blown out with explosives in 19th C and had not been seen by anyone until that access was created
Yes. More importantly however is that Egyptologists have found other "graffitti" which was both similar in structure and painted using the same red ochre paint the ancient Egyptians used across Egypt - to include in modern times.
Examples:
Khufu's solar ship has on the underside of the limestone slabs covering its burial pit such phyle markings - save for in that case they reference Khufu's son Djedefre. The boat was unearthed in the 1950's and it indicates that Khufu died before his pyramid complex was completed and his son who followed him as Pharaoh finished the work. The phyle names contain the name of the Pharaoh the gang worked for.
When Merers' diary was discovered at Wadi al-Jarf in 2013 there were limestone blocks found in the vicinity of the caves = and phyle markings also referencing Khufu painted on some of them.
Sneferu's pyramids which were damaged by earthquakes and "stone thieves" have casing stones broken free from the rest. On the reverse side of some are phyle markings denoting the gang worked for Sneferu. This is how Egyptologists know the pyramids were his + they also showed the same phyle sometimes worked on more than one pyramid.
Moral: if supposed forgeries as the "alternative" schtick sometimes claim = why all the continuity....... Such markings are not a "1-off" and as alluded to above they can be found all over Egypt and not merely in the distant past as they are still be found in modern times.
@@varyolla435 thanks
[Gobekli Tepe is found, shattering long-held theories by being an apparently pre-agricultural megalithic site]
Scientists: **start excitedly taking notes, examing the site, and looking for more and preferably even older findings**
Alt-History Nuts: "I sleep."
[some author jigsaws together random numbers to support a pet theory about ancient civilizations]
Scientists: "Bruh, that's not how numbers work...even if you got the right numbers in the first place, which you didn't."
Alt-History Nuts: "YOU'RE JUST A SLAVE TO THE SCIENCE DOGMA!!1!"
Your problem is that you use belief. Seek the truth without belief, and you will be more alert to everything around you.
@@ccoodd26 I think you meant to respond to a different person?
I would've loved having you as my teacher. You helped me see how disingenuous a lot of these guys are.
I'm assuming you didn't check the citations.
If we were marvelling at the Great Spheroid of Giza I may very well conclude that Randall was onto something..
He's arguing that it's a representation of the northern hemisphere. That's why he uses _half_ a day, instead of a full day. Even compensating for Randall's errors, the Egyptians got within 0.03% margins of error. Again and again and again. You know the saying; once is chance, two is coincidence, three times is a pattern? It doesn't end with three.
@@Flippokidthere’s no doubt in my mind that Randall has a button 🐓
At 23:22 it really struck me how much this pseudoarchaeology is about narrative and framing and tone of voice even. "He did it under contract to the government of Egyptian" is presented as a credential to trust this work. In other circumstances, where he does not want to accept findings of experts, that sort of thing would be presented as a reason not to trust someone, a sign of being a part of the dogmatic establishment.
That thought to the side. Let's get to the fun bit: inappropriate decimal places, incorrect numbers and spurious connections.
No disprespect intended but can you share your reference on Cairo being submerged during the African humid period, please. I knew it had a drastically different climate but did not know it was actually submerged. Carlson is also ignoring the fact that there was a huge river called the Nile that once flowed close ot that area. Him assuming that all the water erosion came from rain water is probably self-deluding.
That's what he was reffering to I believe. He's mentioned it before. The ancient nile flood path being directly through that area.
i don't know what reference he is using but the water table is still very high there and it is more or less "general knowledge" that the Nile was much broader and deeper during the humid period. At the time the pyramids were being built there was still a branch close to the plateau. Here's one paper that uses pollen deposits to define the extents of the hydrology: www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.2202530119
The Sahara was the biggest wetland area for millennia. Look up the Sahara Humid Period.
@@maidende8280 Yes, note that I mentioned the humid period. But I wasn't considering wetlands as completely submerged land - only partially. For example some ancient cultures land-filled wetlands to build upon. Semantics, perhaps.
@@andrewblackard3369 My bad, I always think of it as the SHP because hardly all of Africa is dry now.
The Nile proximity, combined with high rainfall, would have regularly submerged the Sphinx.
If I calculate the *cubic metres* of my living room plus the *number* of stairs to leave the house multiplicated by ten it's almost the exact number in *yards* I need to go to the next liquor store. I'm wholeheartedly convinced my landlord has sent a secret message to me.
🤣🎯 That pretty much sums it up.....
@@varyolla435Try it out for yourself! This formula has been working _precisely_ all over the odd 20 rooms I've been living in - I've relocated a lot over the past 35 years, so I've got a lot of data - if you count in a possible error margin of approximately 3 km. This error margin is due to the tidal forces of course, not because the formula would be incorrect.
@@varyolla435 More or less ...
The kings chamber is the exact dimensions to hold exactly 137 sarcophagii.
The sarcophagus being the box in the kings chanber.
1/137 being the fine structure constant. One of the most important numbers in physics.
And the measurement of that sarcophagus matched the measurements in the bible for the Ark of the Covenant.
Your unintelligent attempt at mockery is astounding. And you have likes. Sad
It's fascinating how people want to, so badly, believe in this stuff - isn't reality interesting enough.
The answer is racism.
the math surrounding ancient monuments isnt interesting?
@@catsncrypto you can do that without making up fantasies
@@catsncryptoit’s not that the math isn’t interesting-It’s that the math can be manipulated by searching for mathematical connections and super imposing meaning where there is no reason to believe there is meaning/intent to be found.
@@catsncryptoforcing correlations into the numerical values isn't that interesting. It's too easy. But people who don't understand how easy it is tend to swallow it whole.
Thank you for continuing to do this work, and the great content.
Many men have had similar discussions about where to measure from. A larger size always seems preferable. 😢
From the stomach or from the perineum? Quite a lot of variance between the two...
@bipolarminddroppings Both are valid. Ideally looking for the one that when divided by the circumference of the larger ball(measured long ways) produces the number closest to the last 5 digits of pi.
You measure from the bum, like a cats tail.
Carlson's facial hair is more impressive than Dr Miano's so I'll give him a point for that. Apart from that it's an outright victory to the Dr.
@user-ey6rc1uo3i - >_
Carlson looks unkempt 🤮 And I like beards. But that hair…oh no.
Carlson looks like he's trying to impersonate a certain Valve CEO.
It really fucks me off every time he says “socle”, because he’s using the term wrong. A socle is the protruding base for something like a column or a wall, not the foundation on which an entire building rests. It feels like he’s literally just using the term because he knows most audience members won’t be familiar with it, which makes it sound like impressive jargon.
You literally argued for why he's correct LOL
These numbers have been floating around for 10-15 years and I find it odd that Randall has picked this one up again. It's sad to see he is slipping into the Spin Zone along with UnCharted-X, and the new wave of Spin Doctors that are rising in that Arena. It's been fun watching them pass their concepts around for the past 15 years like one will do with a box of Cracker Jacks. My nickname for them is.
"The Pass-around Pak".