*WAVE 6 REVEAL ADDENDUM - November 2023* I have quite a lot to say about the full reveal of Wave 6, but unfortunately the new addendum made this comment so stupidly long that RUclips wouldn't let me post it. You can, however, read the entire thing right here: docs.google.com/document/d/19LeK9QcAx7xwxGJCL1uwuYrHQLYttNGW/edit?usp=drive_link&ouid=101015711848145393701&rtpof=true&sd=true *The original pinned comment (September 14, 2023):* Daisy Circuit. _Daisy Circuit._ I was hardly even expecting it myself (and I _absolutely_ didn't expect it to be the showcase of the direct teaser), but Daisy Circuit is really and truly the reality for Wave 6. I just knew Mushroom Bridge would have to be replaced by something, and I suppose that the metrics I used for deducing which course that would be turned out to be exactly correct. All that's left to see now is which of the GCN jungles we're getting. What an absolute ride this has been, for real.
Since the 4th Anniversary Tour added the 3rd routes for Athens Dash, Rome Avanti & Madrid Drive, can you please make 2 videos in your channel? Predicting Route for Madrid Drive in MK8DX Predicting Route for Rome Avanti in MK8DX(Updated)
@@goatprince1 I’m not asking you about making an updated Piranha Plant Cove Route Prediction, just a Madrid Drive Route Prediction and an updated Rome Avanti Route Prediction
GCN Mushroom Bridge has potential to increase it’s difficulty by adding Mushroom & Bob-omb cars & return of the green warp pipe shortcut from the original GameCube version
Honestly your explanation of the whole thing was amazing! I’m pretty convinced with your prediction, and the only difference id have is swapping the 2nd and 3rd Spiny cup tracks. Amazing video as always!
Thx my dude. It's always reaffirming to hear that I've actually won somebody over with my predictions. The whole Mushroom Bridge situation is a complete mess and kind of difficult to conceive of, but I think I did a reasonably good job of making sense of it. Again, I don't necessarily _expect_ to see Daisy Circuit in Wave 6, but it really has a lot going for it assuming Mushroom Bridge was replaced.
@@goatprince1,just because This GCN track would not fit because of it’s lack of difficulty in the layout & gameplay,that’s where everyone is wrong due the addition of the green warp pipe shortcut & bob-omb & Mushroom cars,Mushroom Bridge would fit just enough to get a placement in wave 6
Truly a baffling decision by Nintendo. Imagine going out of your way to include every single Tour course in the BCP _except_ one. I can't begin to grasp the logic here.
Tbh, Moonview's inclusion meant more to the whole BCP than most people think. First of all, it could not be planned from the start because of Maple Treeway being just before it. There was never a situation that two courses from the same game (except Tour) appeared in the same slots. Moonview had to be put in the placeholder during the timespan between wave 1's release to a little after wave 2's release. And I think this track is the reason why the placements of the tracks were shuffled. And that raises a question: If they were going to: put something in a placeholder, replace Mushroom Bridge, add Moonview Highway and add another track, wouldn't it make more sense to put Moonview in the MB slot? (Before you get mad at me, keep reading) If they put Moonview in the MB slot, there would be no need to shuffle all the placements. Well, unless they wanted to put another Wii track. Still, I think we have enough Wii tracks. I think we'll get MB anyway.
Exactly what I was thinking too, I can’t see us getting an 8th Wii track since I’m pretty sure even Nintendo knew they were pushing it with 7 Wii tracks. As much as I’d like Dry Dry Ruins, I can’t see it and thankfully not as well for Daisy Circuit. I think a lot and I mean A LOT of people don’t realize how likely Mushroom Bridge is.
Bro, Madrid is much more difficult than Rome, or at least for me and the majority, Madrid is very varied and has very narrow areas with enemies strategically placed to ruin your race, Rome even with its exaggerated curves does not even have enemies that do damage and they are easy to avoid
I'm defying any and all logic in saying the mystery course could maybe be Wuhu Loop, I know its not in tour, but they already have a decent chunk of the island modeled for the battle arena, so as far as I know they could just patch up the island and reuse the battle theme. It probably falls under being another traffic course, but if this wave is supposedly gonna be filled with heavy hitters, I don't really see why not.
I'll admit, having one of the Wuhu tracks suddenly show up without ever being in Tour would make for one hell of a reveal, especially if it was Maka Wuhu which I consider to be the more grand and cinematic track of the two, something very fitting for the end of the BCP. Dare I say it might've even been within the realm of possibility if not for this situation where the hypothetical mystery course was not originally planned and is probably instead replacing Mushroom Bridge.
I honestly think the mystery track will be Luigi’s Mansion. It’s a basic Mushroom cup track that fits the 2nd slot, while also being a fan favorite. It’s also a triple whammy because we only have 2 other ghost tracks in the game and 0 Luigi tracks. Edit: also Wave 6 will probably release around November, so it would fit right in with the theme
@@goatprince1 Its not going to be released on October since we seen this pattern since this February direct in which everyone thought that wave 4 was going to be out in April like last years release, but it came a month early and the same thing happened to wave 5 too, so i dont believe wave 6 is coming in October since wave 3 came out in December despite a spooky track came out in in winter than the Halloween month, so i see it release it in November.
I still don't think Daisy Circuit is a good choice, I just don't see them doing 8 Wii tracks or even another track named "circuit" in the BCP. Just feels like poor marketing like what happened with DS MC Rosalina's Ice World/Frappe Snowland are good options especially considering the trend of having a snow/winter themed track in every wave since wave 2 Also despite your issues with Mushroom Bridge, I still think its a viable option especially considering how Moonview Highway was made easier in 8dx compared to Wii. I can easily imagine that they would make Mushroom Bridge harder, thus justifying it's Wave 6 placement. My Predictions are Acorn Cup Tour Rome Avanti SNES Bowser Castle 3 GCN Mushroom Bridge Piranha Plant Cove Spiny Cup Tour Madrid Drive GCN DK Mountain Piranha Plant Pipeline Wii Rainbow Road Your video is still very good and well researched.
Only question there is, why would the developers go to so much effort to deliberately make Moonview Highway easier and Mushroom Bridge harder (assuming the latter even happens, which I don't think is likely at all), and then swap their locations instead of just keeping both as they were?
For Airship, I disagree with your Reasonings. Courses like Riverside Park, DS Mario Circuit, Yoshi’s Island, and Berlin Byways introduced new enemies only in that one course. For BC3 and Airship, the lighting is the only thing that makes them look alike, and they could just change the time of day. If they do that the courses would look nothing alike. They may both have Bowser theming, but only 2 tracks in Wave 4 didn’t have Piranha Plants. And we’ve got older Tour Courses like Rock Rock Mountain. Being a fan favorite is more important than being an old Tour course. They might even completely redo the textures like 3DS Rainbow Road (though I see that as very unlikely) I could be wrong though, but Airship Fortress just makes the most Sense to me. Plus, out of all remaining options, Airship is by far the most liked.
It's true that the BCP developers have added unique map objects to several courses, but I think it should be of at least some consideration that if Mushroom Bridge is being replaced at all, then the track replacing it likely would have been ported over later into the pass than most other courses. Because of that, I have the feeling that the developers might have opted for a course with no unique map objects to save on time.
@@goatprince1 Fair Point, but I also think since it’s the final Wave, Nintendo would want to put in some fan favorites. If Airship was to be put in we would get the 3 best courses for many from Double Dash, DS, and Wii. I also think Koopa Cape or Moonview Highway could’ve work as the second spot. Place Daisy Cruiser in Waluigi Stadium’s spot, Place Daisy Circuit in Cruiser’s Spot, move Waluigi Stadium in Moonview’s spot spot, and make Moonview Highway the 2nd Acron slot. So why make Daisy Circuit Acorn 2 if they could have done that. I still like Daisy Circuit, but I would prefer Airship.
I also think Bridge was replace because it got pushed pack from Wave 4 to 5, and became too easy for that Wave. I know Cruiser is Cnsw_46, but it’s possible that Bridge was that spot, but no work was done on that file till later, with Nintendo adding Cruiser in that spot because they didn’t want Bridge in the game anymore. There could’ve also been many other things like file corruptions but that’s reaching. Could be wrong, but who knows.
I honesty would be fine if we got Airship and BC3 in the same wave, just take a look of how many nature based courses we got in Waves 1 to 5 such as Mario Circuit, MC3, Rock Rock Mountain, Toad’s Circuit, Riverside Park, Shroom Ridge, exedra. If anything we need more villain courses since MK8 Deluxe only has 2 those being Neo Bowser City and the nitro Bowser’s Castle. I would really live BC3 and Airship Fortress to make it in, one for the Acorn Cup Preferably BC3 and one for the Spiny cup, Preferably Airship Fortress just before Rainbow Road! PS, I think GCN Bowser’s Castle would also be cool but it’s not in Tour so we likely aren’t getting it
Acorn Cup: Tour Rome Avanti GCN Mushroom Bridge SNES Bowser Castle 3 Piranha Plant Cove Spiny Cup: Tour Madrid Drive GCN Dino Dino Jungle/DK Mountain Piranha Plant Pipeline Wii Rainbow Road I could see DK Mountain coming in, but it’s my predictions and I’m going with Dino Dino Jungle For Mushroom Bridge, while I do agree with your reasonings, I do have some things to comment: 1: Moonview Highway replaced a PREFIX-LESS track, while both Cnsw_56 and Cnsw_66 had prefixes. Specifically GCN. Which leads me to believe that they were always going to be a GCN track, even if the exact one was undecided at the time, plus’s we’ve never seen a retro replace a retro, so why do it now? 2: Moonview Highway’s traffic got nerfed, now being similar to a Flower Cup track, while Mushroom Bridge’s remained relatively the same, which would make that track the harder one, ironically. 3: Tour is infamous for neglecting GCN tracks, as we’ve only had Dino Dino Jungle and Yoshi Circuit for a long time, then we got Baby Park in 2022, but that didn’t really change much. After that, we suddenly got 4 GCN tracks in the span of a year: Waluigi Stadium (it’s render appeared in the banner datamine), Daisy Cruiser, DK Mountain, and of course, Mushroom Bridge. The prefix datamine also had 4 GCN track, all coincidentally the 6th tracks of their respective waves, with Waluigi Stadium being the first to release. This tells me that those tracks were always planned for the BCP. In fact, why even remake Mushroom Bridge for Tour in the first place? Unless we’re getting it in the BCP, plus we don’t have a lot of traffic tracks in 8DX anyway, with 4/88 so far. Getting 5/96 traffic tracks wouldn’t hurt very much, would it? 4: Even if MB is being replaced, we’ve had a Mushroom/Flower Cup track in every wave so far, and with the other retros being from the Star/Special Cups, it would make sense to bring a simpler track to give players an easier time. Which would mean tracks like Airship Fortress, Daisy Circuit, Dry Dry Desert, and Rosalina’s Ice World wouldn’t fit. Tracks that would would be: N64 Frappe Snowland, GBA Luigi Circuit (if you count the GBA Lightning Cup) and 3DS Shy Guy Bazaar. There isn’t a lot, and Mushroom Bridge would still be the best choice anyway. Also, y’all might be inhaling a little too much copium (no offense). I still think Mushroom Bridge is coming, and if it isn’t, I will gladly take the L. Not like that hasn’t happened before anyway.
I see your points, but I would say even the nerfed Moonview we ended up with is considerably more difficult than Mushroom Bridge, as it still at least has a handful of sharp turns and traffic blindsight moments, as well as risk/reward scenarios with cars frequently driving over dash panels. I can't really imagine what Mushroom Bridge would have going for it in terms of difficulty, aside from people griefing you online by sniping the bomb cars. They would have to make some serious alterations tp the course for it to be a worthy candidate for Wave 6. Additionally, one of the reasons I chose Daisy Circuit is because it has such a simple layout, despite being a Star Cup track in Wii. It really had no business being in the Wii Star Cup to begin with given its lack of obstacles. However, it would still be more difficult than Mushroom Bridge in my opinion, and it has a much more unique aesthetic to boot.
@@goatprince1 I did see a comment somewhere (can’t remember if it was in this video) that said that Mushroom Bridge could do a Peach Gardens situation and have the last lap in reverse and have the pipe be the way that can happen, since that is still in the Tour remake, despite it being unusable there. While I don’t think that’s going to happen, it is interesting to think about anyway. As for Daisy Circuit, there are a variety of reasons why I counted it out, aside from it being in the Star Cup: 1: It’s a circuit track. It’s not exactly the most popular theme within the community, even with it’s unique setting. 2: We’re going to be getting a total of 10 Wii tracks after Wave 6 releases. Out of 16. Wii is a popular game, but even that’s kinda pushing it. Adding in Daisy Circuit or any other Wii track would be overkill (Tour has more, but that’s to be expected). 3: We just got Daisy Cruiser. Yes there’s 2 Mario Circuits, but at least there was a wave in between them. Wave 6 does not have that luxury. 4: Even among the remaining Wii tracks, Daisy Circuit isn’t really that popular. While it would be a better choice than Luigi/Mario Circuit, do you really think that the devs would want to put that track in over Bowser’s Castle? Dry Dry Ruins? TOAD’S FACTORY??? Even if you only include the Tour remakes, I would still put Dry Dry Ruins in over Daisy Circuit any day of the week. I’m not completely disregarding the choice, as it’s Nintendo. They waited 5 years until they finally gave their best selling Switch game some DLC. However, I’m also trying to be realistic and to me, Daisy Circuit (or an 8th Wii track in general) getting in the BCP just seems a little more unrealistic than Mushroom Bridge getting in a wave after Moonview Highway. Regardless, I really liked the video and the way you explained your reasonings for each choice, even if we disagree on some things. Keep it up!
in the 4th aniversary from mktour maybe we are getting mushroom city then the gcn track would be mushroom city and could have diferent routes like kalimari desert and peach gardens
I hate to say it, but there aren't any remaining ID gaps for future courses in Tour. What that means is that there's basically no way we're getting anything beyond the remaining routes for the cities and a handful of additional variants. Development on Tour is pretty much over at this point.
I just see no reason for mushroom bridge getting replaced and I think it’s too late do I think mushroom bridge will be in wave 6 yes doesn’t matter this is my opinion so yeah
@@XZavierdoesStuff Daisy Circuit and Ice World always made the most sense as replacement courses due to some combination of being reasonably unique and generally not having unique map objects, the latter of which would have made them easier to port over to the Switch under a looming deadline. I came up with the "map object" theory to begin with when I noticed that Moonview, a replacement course, didn't feature any unique obstacles except for the bomb cars, which at the time I suspected had been brought into the game for use in Mushroom Bridge but were repurposed for Moonview. If nothing else, it's neat to see that my theory apparently held true, as the two other replacement courses we ended up getting were indeed in my top three candidates for courses lacking unique map objects.
I agree that Daisy Circuit is a likely replacement for Mushroom Bridge, though I also think GBA Luigi Circuit would be a good pick for the Acorn Cup's 2nd course. Both tracks are circuit tracks that are unconventional, creatively themed, and difficult enough for Wave 6's more climactic feeling, and their status as circuit tracks, as well being basic enough compared to the rest of the Acorn Cup's tracks helps them to fit the trend of the 2nd track in a cup being the most simplistic. Not to mention, both were released in Tour in 2023, fitting into the trend of the BCP's latter half being comprised mostly of recent Tour additions. Luigi Circuit also has the benefit of being able to recycle music from GBA Mario Circuit, making it even easier to port over than Daisy Circuit.
Nah man Daisy Circuit is incredibly easy and would be a very bad pick for wave 6. GBA Luigi Circuit though would be a lot better due to it coming from a game that's not represented quite as much, it being a better fit thematically for the BCP, and it potentially having a much more interesting and fun layout. It still wouldn't exactly be my top pick, but it'd be a neat surprise to see.
I feel like a lot of people don’t point this out but like Tour never gets Double Dash representation. In fact it took two and a half years after the game’s launch to get another GCN track that being Baby Park. By the time that track came out though, the BCP launched already and then we basically got 4 GCN tracks in the span of 1 year (and the prefix leak literally suggested that the developers planned for exactly 4 GCN tracks too from the start) which granted were in development prior to the BCP and may have released sooner if it weren’t for COVID but who’s to say the BCP was planned for this long? Hell Nintendo said the Breath of the Wild DLC for 8 Deluxe wasn’t the only DLC we were getting and that was years before the BCP was even announced. I think Tour and it’s inevitable ports to 8 Deluxe were planned years in advanced. Back to the Double Dash courses, it also makes sense how they were released in both 8 Deluxe and Tour: Waluigi Stadium came out first since it had a full render in the banner leak, Daisy Cruiser came next, DK Mountain after, and Mushroom Bridge last. Considering Waluigi Stadium is cnsw_36 and Daisy Cruiser was cnsw_46, I wouldn’t be surprised if DK Mountain and Mushroom Bridge was cnsw_56 and cnsw_66 to everyone’s surprise. And that’s also not to say that Moonview Highway got a massive nerf from its original incarnation and with the nerf it’s basically a Flower Cup course now. Mushroom Bridge with its varied traffic and two unique cars as well (the Mushroom Car which acts like the ptooies in Riverside Park and the Wiggler Wagons), much more varied routes being the sidewalks, the dirt cut halfway through, and the bridge railings which can easily be trapped (and are faster than the main route) and honestly you got yourself a more dynamically interesting traffic course than Moonview Highway which has much less than that and obviously the nerf in difficulty. And I can’t stress enough that having 5 traffic courses out of 96 tracks is a good thing. Before the BCP, we had 1 out of 48 so now having 5 out of 96 I think is great even if Mushroom City would’ve been more desirable. Granted yes Mushroom Bridge would be a slap in the face considering the rest of the Wave 6 retro lineup but we also got a Flower Cup course in every wave as well as a buzzkill so it can happen. And besides I’m pretty certain they added Moonview Highway to fill up that missing spot due to it either being a early scrapped nitro or it being a placeholder and that’s why all the shuffling happened so as to not have 3 Wii tracks in the same wave as well as possibly Mushroom Bridge then being also 2 traffic courses in one wave.
My predictions for wave 6: Acorn Cup • Rome Avanti • Mushroom Bridge • Bowser Castle 3 • Piranha Plant Cove Spiny Cup • Madrid Drive • DK Mountain • Piranha Plant Pipeline • Wii Rainbow Road Characters: Diddy Kong, Pauline I don't think it's impossible that Mushroom Bridge could be replaced, but I don't think it's likely either. I think the most likely candidate to replace it would be Airship Fortress. I'm not sure why so many people think Daisy Circuit could replace Mushroom Bridge when it's probably easier than the course it would be replacing. I think it was after Albert Boris uploaded his prediction video when everyone suddenly started predicting Daisy Circuit. Maybe Bridge wasn't even planned in the first place and we get both jungle courses, considering they were planned for two different waves originally (despite the clashing themes, I would love this to happen, not as much as Airship Fortress though).
I still can't imagine why Moonview Highway would have been chosen over something like Daisy Circuit or Rosalina's Ice World, which wouldn't have caused nearly as much thematic overlap.
To be fair Harry, I’ve predicted Daisy Circuit before Albert Boris tbh, so you are kind of wrong. I’m in his server and we discuss leaks and stuff. And you haven’t replied to the last comment I sent, did something happen or did I get you confused?
@@goatprince1Literally what I said was that Wave 6 might’ve solved all of our answers and the DLC speculation as whole, I said this in the Discord server right after Wave 5. Moonview Highway was created and chosen during the development of Wave 3 era, and that can explain why there was a rumor going all about that Maple Treeway was moved out of Wave 6 into Wave 3 because they didn’t want 2 Wii courses in one Cup. I think what they likely tried to do was having both DK Mountain and Dino Dino Jungle to end up in the same pass, but due to the swaps and changes and the variety would’ve been weird without the changes, they had to kill one of the Jungles, and then they decided on another retro that can fit Wave 6. Because it makes no sense to do all of these swaps just for 2 Jungle courses to make it into Wave 6. So in my opinion, DK Mountain was Cnsw_56 and Dino Dino Jungle was Cnsw_66.
@@DarkPrince777 I know some people did predict Daisy Circuit before Albert Boris, for legitimate reasons other than 'I saw other people do it', but the number has increased a lot since his video. I think at least a third of the people who now predict Daisy Circuit had seen Albert Boris' video before including it in their wave 6 predictions. By your last comment, I assume you mean the one about the theory of every tour having a BCP course. Am I correct? I don't believe that theory, but I do understand why you think it points to Daisy Circuit's inclusion.
Tbh I think Mushroom Bridge is more exciting than Daisy Circuit and its honestly a lot more likely to happen than what people think. Idk Nintendo pushing out an 8th Wii course that may have not been originally planned like Moonview Highway is even more unrealistic imo.
Here is my predictions for wave 6. Acorn Cup - Madrid Drive, Piranha Plant Cove, GCN DK Mountain, and Wii Rainbow Road. Spiny Cup - Piranha Plant Pipeline, SNES Bowser’s Castle, Rome Avanti, and GCN Rainbow Road. That is all.
While not a bad prediction due to Nintendo's insistence on doing dumb things sometimes, Daisy Circuit would be a *very* bad choice for wave 6. Conceptually it's both yet another town/city track AND yet another circuit track, it's designed in a way that doesn't use either of its themes well, it's incredibly easy (and boring) to the point where Mushroom Bridge would've been much more fitting track for wave 6, and it would be an 8th Wii track (without being nearly as much as of a fan favorite as any other Wii track in the BCP). While I get we already have 7, I find it difficult to believe they would deliberately replace Mushroom Bridge with another Wii track when they have other more viable options from games that are less represented in the BCP. Speaking of which, I think DS Airship Fortress is the most likely replacement track. There's absolutely no way Nintendo isn't aware of the track's status as a fan favorite. In terms of its theme overlap, yes it exists as a second lava course in the same wave, but I think that's fine since it's making up for the complete lack of that theme in the entire rest of the BCP. Not to mention the marketing potential in terms of finally providing such a heavy hitter fan favorite after teasing fans with the idea for so long, as opposed to some Wii track that at best isn't that well known and at worst is actively disliked. And of course, there's potential for the retros to be shuffled around to the point where I think it'll most likely be something like this: Acorn Cup: Tour Madrid Drive DS Airship Fortress GCN Dino Dino Jungle Piranha Plant Cove Spiny Cup: Tour Rome Avanti Piranha Plant Pipeline SNES Bowser Castle 3 Wii Rainbow Road While you could argue that SNES BC 3 isn't as much of a powerhouse track as one of the GCN jungle picks, and thus shouldn't be in the Spiny Cup, I'd argue that the thematic cohesion of having the Bowser Castle appear right before Rainbow Road makes up for it. And of course, that design would allow them to easily have BC 3 be just far away enough from Airship Fortress for it to not be jarring on the track selection screen or anything. Also, I'll quickly mention that I think Dino Dino Jungle is a little more likely than DK Mountain (it may absolutely be the latter though), and I think Nintendo will swap the order of the Tour cities for no clear reason, lol.
@@otfMessi Jesus fucking christ man, it's like they even knew how stupid of a choice the track was since they added a glider ramp and dash panels out of nowhere, and they gave us extra characters to compensate for the track selection coming up short
I still dont buy these stuff at all because you people are forgetting that Nintendo doesnt care about your continuous predictions being the same pattern all the time at all since they will add tracks that you cant even predict by Tours ID's or leaks anymore. but anyways i still believe that what the pattern on what the pass was hinting based on the tracks where added will be the following: 2 city tracks 1 Nitro either its new or existing 1 GBA track 1 winter track 1 spooky track 1 new retro track that Tour wont reveal till the BCP reveal it first.
Dude, Nintendo explicitly stated that Tour will soon stop getting any new content, by now you gotta *at least* give up the idea that there'll be anything not already in Tour, otherwise you're going to be disappointed.
I'm eleven days late to your comment, but I'll bite. There are no specific patterns that the BCP developers intentionally adhere to when selecting the courses for each wave, other than each cup beginning with a city course, and the eventual inclusion of every single Tour course in the pass such that the BCP is able to function as a complete and permanent archive of Tour's original tracks. The final wave can't be deduced by trying to extrapolate superficial patterns from past waves regarding course theming and game representation. Rather, the only way to accurately solve the remainder of the pass is through the prefix datamine - which has a known track record of 31 of 33 courses - and the obvious corresponding content in Tour. Nintendo has shown time and time again through four consecutive waves that they aren't just changing things for no reason, so there's hardly any sense in doubting the prefix datamine when it comes to predicting the seven unknown tracks of Wave 6. There have so far been only two instances of the BCP defying the prefix datamine, and both happened for very clear and logical reasons. We got Moonview Highway instead of that mysterious final nitro course because said nitro course had been scrapped altogether by the Tour developers, giving the BCP team no choice but to throw in an extra retro course. We're getting Daisy Circuit instead of Mushroom Bridge because the latter course would have been a horribly basic and redundant choice for Wave 6 (or even Wave 5, for that matter) and was cut to make way for something more substantial and distinctive. Or, if the original Wave 5 GCN course had instead been some track that was planned for Tour but never ended up being made, then the inclusion of Daisy Circuit would be entirely self-explanatory, as whichever GCN course had been cancelled would have _needed_ to be replaced. Across all the courses that the prefix datamine points toward, not one has any actual reason to be replaced by anything. We're getting the four remaining Tour courses because the BCP is Nintendo's only shot at preserving all of the Tour tracks in a single, permanent package. The notion that they would go so far as to include twenty Tour courses but then arbitrarily decide to leave a single one stranded in an impermanent mobile game is absolutely absurd. If it was never Nintendo's intention to archive all of the Tour tracks, then they wouldn't have bothered to include even half of them in the pass to begin with. We're getting Wii Rainbow Road because Nintendo, by ending the first row of courses with 3DS Rainbow Road, has plainly set up the expectation that the second row of courses will similarly end with a fan favorite Rainbow Road. There isn't a single course in Tour besides Wii Rainbow Road that would make for a suitable finale for the entire pass to begin with. Additionally, actually consider a scenario in which 3DS Rainbow Road were the only Rainbow Road in the pass; It would make no sense for it to be featured as the Wave 3 finale instead of being saved for Wave 6 when whatever finale they had in mind for the final wave simply wouldn't be able to live up to one of the most revered courses in the entire series. We're getting SNES Bowser Castle 3 because it was blatantly and flagrantly designed with MK8's anti-gravity mechanic in mind and is arguably the single most impressive glow-up that any retro course has ever received. Finally, we're getting either of the two GCN jungle courses because we still only have two GCN tracks in the entire pass, with either of the jungles being a fan favorite that would work great as a finale to the lineup of GCN courses. Every single one of these courses is either extremely likely on the grounds of being very cinematic and/or a fan favorite, or is simply required to be included on the grounds of being a Tour course. There's no Mushroom Bridge or "mystery nitro track" situation to be had here; The selection of courses suggested by the prefix datamine lines up perfectly with what would theoretically be the most logical and marketable lineup of tracks for the final wave given the content available in Tour. There's no reason for any of it to be changed. Also, the chances of a new Tour retro happening are zero to none. Even by the time you had posted your comment, the official newsletter announcing that there wouldn't be any new content in the game following the Anniversary Tour was already out. If the fact that there were no remaining ID gaps somehow weren't sufficient evidence of that on its own, then the newsletter was the indisputable nail in the coffin. Tour is 100% finished with new content, so we're not getting anything in Wave 6 that isn't already in Tour.
acorn cup tour rome avanti gcn mushroom bridge snes bowser castle 3 tour piranha plant pipeline spiny cup tour madrid motorway gcn dk mountain/dino dino jungle tour piranha plant cove wii rainbow road pauline and diddy/funky
If we do get Wii Rainbow Road as Spiny Final, it would've made more sense for it to be in Moon Final and 3DS Rainbow Road in Spiny Final due to 3DS Rainbow Road being better than Wii Rainbow Road. Still, I don't see what guarantees Moonview Highway to have replaced a Nitro track rather than have been a place swap or a misnumbering (also why would there be 2 tracks of a same game that is not Tour in one cup anyway?)
Moonview's internal number being 63 confirms that it replaced a nitro slot from the prefix datamine. The number 63 coincides with the third slot of the Acorn Cup, which in the prefix datamine has no prefix. There's not even a nitro course in Tour that could go into that spot to begin with.
@@goatprince1 I repeat. This track might not be on Tour, if Wii Rainbow Road does get added, I'd be disappointed cause the spot for Spiny Final should've been 3DS Rainbow Road. Why close the pass with the second best Rainbow Road? Again, it MIGHT (focus on might) be a misnumbering or place swapping and if it is a new track it wouldn't be in Tour due to the track being the closure of the pass, y'all jump to the conclusion it was replaced rather than misnumbered, a new track would be better to close the pass if 3DS Rainbow Road isn't and since Tour is done adding new content, makes sense this hypothetical new track not being there since the track would close the pass. Could be a "travel from point A to point B track" where at the goal says "The end. Thanks for playing!" hence not appearing on Tour, still, I do not discard the possibility of Wii Rainbow Road being the last track of the pass, but if it ends up being the last track of the pass, I'd be disappointed for 3DS Rainbow Road not having that spot.
@@redviolet69 Every single course in the BCP so far has come from Tour, so I don't see the point in humoring the possibility of an entirely original track exclusive to 8DX. That's a completely unprecedented scenario.
@@goatprince1 Except that this track would close the pass, hence would be unique. If it ends up being Wii Rainbow Road, I'll just cry in the corner for them not closing the pass with 3DS Rainbow Road.
my predictions for wave 6: acorn cup 1 madrid drive because is too basic 2 mushroom city 3 RMX vanilla lake 2 because its totaly new and has advertisements 4 Piranha plant pipeline, like squeaky clean sprint and yoshi island its a nitro track and would have the same spot, the last track of the 1st cup spiny cup: 1 rome avanti 2 dino dino jungle because also has advertisements 3 piranha plant cove to be like the other city tracks (singapore and vancouver) as the third and last city track of the wave 4 mario circuit 1 just kidding! wii rainbow road
*WAVE 6 REVEAL ADDENDUM - November 2023*
I have quite a lot to say about the full reveal of Wave 6, but unfortunately the new addendum made this comment so stupidly long that RUclips wouldn't let me post it. You can, however, read the entire thing right here: docs.google.com/document/d/19LeK9QcAx7xwxGJCL1uwuYrHQLYttNGW/edit?usp=drive_link&ouid=101015711848145393701&rtpof=true&sd=true
*The original pinned comment (September 14, 2023):*
Daisy Circuit.
_Daisy Circuit._
I was hardly even expecting it myself (and I _absolutely_ didn't expect it to be the showcase of the direct teaser), but Daisy Circuit is really and truly the reality for Wave 6. I just knew Mushroom Bridge would have to be replaced by something, and I suppose that the metrics I used for deducing which course that would be turned out to be exactly correct. All that's left to see now is which of the GCN jungles we're getting. What an absolute ride this has been, for real.
Since the 4th Anniversary Tour added the 3rd routes for Athens Dash, Rome Avanti & Madrid Drive, can you please make 2 videos in your channel?
Predicting Route for Madrid Drive in MK8DX
Predicting Route for Rome Avanti in MK8DX(Updated)
@@gresonvillaluz I may or may not make a single video for my final Rome, Madrid, and PPC routes. No promises though.
@@goatprince1 I’m not asking you about making an updated Piranha Plant Cove Route Prediction, just a Madrid Drive Route Prediction and an updated Rome Avanti Route Prediction
Hey Okee, it's Secretary of Wii Rainbow Road from the Cafe. Can't believe I was RIGHT with DAISYC CIRCUIT SINCE JULY!!!
GCN Mushroom Bridge has potential to increase it’s difficulty by adding Mushroom & Bob-omb cars & return of the green warp pipe shortcut from the original GameCube version
Honestly your explanation of the whole thing was amazing! I’m pretty convinced with your prediction, and the only difference id have is swapping the 2nd and 3rd Spiny cup tracks. Amazing video as always!
Thx my dude. It's always reaffirming to hear that I've actually won somebody over with my predictions. The whole Mushroom Bridge situation is a complete mess and kind of difficult to conceive of, but I think I did a reasonably good job of making sense of it. Again, I don't necessarily _expect_ to see Daisy Circuit in Wave 6, but it really has a lot going for it assuming Mushroom Bridge was replaced.
@@goatprince1,just because This GCN track would not fit because of it’s lack of difficulty in the layout & gameplay,that’s where everyone is wrong due the addition of the green warp pipe shortcut & bob-omb & Mushroom cars,Mushroom Bridge would fit just enough to get a placement in wave 6
7/8 Amazing
No one's going to have a perfect prediction because Ice World replaced PIpeline lmao.
Truly a baffling decision by Nintendo. Imagine going out of your way to include every single Tour course in the BCP _except_ one. I can't begin to grasp the logic here.
Tbh, Moonview's inclusion meant more to the whole BCP than most people think.
First of all, it could not be planned from the start because of Maple Treeway being just before it. There was never a situation that two courses from the same game (except Tour) appeared in the same slots. Moonview had to be put in the placeholder during the timespan between wave 1's release to a little after wave 2's release. And I think this track is the reason why the placements of the tracks were shuffled.
And that raises a question: If they were going to: put something in a placeholder, replace Mushroom Bridge, add Moonview Highway and add another track, wouldn't it make more sense to put Moonview in the MB slot? (Before you get mad at me, keep reading) If they put Moonview in the MB slot, there would be no need to shuffle all the placements. Well, unless they wanted to put another Wii track.
Still, I think we have enough Wii tracks. I think we'll get MB anyway.
Exactly what I was thinking too, I can’t see us getting an 8th Wii track since I’m pretty sure even Nintendo knew they were pushing it with 7 Wii tracks. As much as I’d like Dry Dry Ruins, I can’t see it and thankfully not as well for Daisy Circuit. I think a lot and I mean A LOT of people don’t realize how likely Mushroom Bridge is.
@@rebirthphoenix5646I even agree too
This aged like milk
@@militor_207 Did you read "Well, unless they wanted to put another Wii track" part?
Bro, Madrid is much more difficult than Rome, or at least for me and the majority, Madrid is very varied and has very narrow areas with enemies strategically placed to ruin your race, Rome even with its exaggerated curves does not even have enemies that do damage and they are easy to avoid
I'm pretty sure the rocky wrenches hurt you. They don't in tour, but in other mk games they do
@@militor_207 Look at the date of the comment.
(there is still hope that they will save the most boring track on tour Lmao)
I'm defying any and all logic in saying the mystery course could maybe be Wuhu Loop, I know its not in tour, but they already have a decent chunk of the island modeled for the battle arena, so as far as I know they could just patch up the island and reuse the battle theme.
It probably falls under being another traffic course, but if this wave is supposedly gonna be filled with heavy hitters, I don't really see why not.
I'll admit, having one of the Wuhu tracks suddenly show up without ever being in Tour would make for one hell of a reveal, especially if it was Maka Wuhu which I consider to be the more grand and cinematic track of the two, something very fitting for the end of the BCP. Dare I say it might've even been within the realm of possibility if not for this situation where the hypothetical mystery course was not originally planned and is probably instead replacing Mushroom Bridge.
I honestly think the mystery track will be Luigi’s Mansion. It’s a basic Mushroom cup track that fits the 2nd slot, while also being a fan favorite. It’s also a triple whammy because we only have 2 other ghost tracks in the game and 0 Luigi tracks.
Edit: also Wave 6 will probably release around November, so it would fit right in with the theme
Considering that Wave 6 is probably releasing in October, I wouldn't be too surprised to see it.
@@goatprince1 oh good call! I’ll add that in
this would make for such a cool remake, even gba luigi circuit.
@@goatprince1 Same. After all they used the DS Luigi's Mansion theme for the GCN battle version so I wouldn't be surprised.
@@goatprince1 Its not going to be released on October since we seen this pattern since this February direct in which everyone thought that wave 4 was going to be out in April like last years release, but it came a month early and the same thing happened to wave 5 too, so i dont believe wave 6 is coming in October since wave 3 came out in December despite a spooky track came out in in winter than the Halloween month, so i see it release it in November.
I still don't think Daisy Circuit is a good choice, I just don't see them doing 8 Wii tracks or even another track named "circuit" in the BCP. Just feels like poor marketing like what happened with DS MC
Rosalina's Ice World/Frappe Snowland are good options especially considering the trend of having a snow/winter themed track in every wave since wave 2
Also despite your issues with Mushroom Bridge, I still think its a viable option especially considering how Moonview Highway was made easier in 8dx compared to Wii. I can easily imagine that they would make Mushroom Bridge harder, thus justifying it's Wave 6 placement.
My Predictions are
Acorn Cup
Tour Rome Avanti
SNES Bowser Castle 3
GCN Mushroom Bridge
Piranha Plant Cove
Spiny Cup
Tour Madrid Drive
GCN DK Mountain
Piranha Plant Pipeline
Wii Rainbow Road
Your video is still very good and well researched.
You have same prediction as mine but I had mushroom bridge in 2nd and bowser castle 3 in 3
Only question there is, why would the developers go to so much effort to deliberately make Moonview Highway easier and Mushroom Bridge harder (assuming the latter even happens, which I don't think is likely at all), and then swap their locations instead of just keeping both as they were?
I agree, there's too many Wii tracks
For Airship, I disagree with your Reasonings.
Courses like Riverside Park, DS Mario Circuit, Yoshi’s Island, and Berlin Byways introduced new enemies only in that one course.
For BC3 and Airship, the lighting is the only thing that makes them look alike, and they could just change the time of day. If they do that the courses would look nothing alike. They may both have Bowser theming, but only 2 tracks in Wave 4 didn’t have Piranha Plants.
And we’ve got older Tour Courses like Rock Rock Mountain. Being a fan favorite is more important than being an old Tour course. They might even completely redo the textures like 3DS Rainbow Road (though I see that as very unlikely)
I could be wrong though, but Airship Fortress just makes the most Sense to me. Plus, out of all remaining options, Airship is by far the most liked.
It's true that the BCP developers have added unique map objects to several courses, but I think it should be of at least some consideration that if Mushroom Bridge is being replaced at all, then the track replacing it likely would have been ported over later into the pass than most other courses.
Because of that, I have the feeling that the developers might have opted for a course with no unique map objects to save on time.
@@goatprince1 Fair Point, but I also think since it’s the final Wave, Nintendo would want to put in some fan favorites. If Airship was to be put in we would get the 3 best courses for many from Double Dash, DS, and Wii.
I also think Koopa Cape or Moonview Highway could’ve work as the second spot. Place Daisy Cruiser in Waluigi Stadium’s spot, Place Daisy Circuit in Cruiser’s Spot, move Waluigi Stadium in Moonview’s spot spot, and make Moonview Highway the 2nd Acron slot. So why make Daisy Circuit Acorn 2 if they could have done that.
I still like Daisy Circuit, but I would prefer Airship.
I also think Bridge was replace because it got pushed pack from Wave 4 to 5, and became too easy for that Wave. I know Cruiser is Cnsw_46, but it’s possible that Bridge was that spot, but no work was done on that file till later, with Nintendo adding Cruiser in that spot because they didn’t want Bridge in the game anymore. There could’ve also been many other things like file corruptions but that’s reaching. Could be wrong, but who knows.
I honesty would be fine if we got Airship and BC3 in the same wave, just take a look of how many nature based courses we got in Waves 1 to 5 such as Mario Circuit, MC3, Rock Rock Mountain, Toad’s Circuit, Riverside Park, Shroom Ridge, exedra. If anything we need more villain courses since MK8 Deluxe only has 2 those being Neo Bowser City and the nitro Bowser’s Castle. I would really live BC3 and Airship Fortress to make it in, one for the Acorn Cup Preferably BC3 and one for the Spiny cup, Preferably Airship Fortress just before Rainbow Road! PS, I think GCN Bowser’s Castle would also be cool but it’s not in Tour so we likely aren’t getting it
Acorn Cup:
Tour Rome Avanti
GCN Mushroom Bridge
SNES Bowser Castle 3
Piranha Plant Cove
Spiny Cup:
Tour Madrid Drive
GCN Dino Dino Jungle/DK Mountain
Piranha Plant Pipeline
Wii Rainbow Road
I could see DK Mountain coming in, but it’s my predictions and I’m going with Dino Dino Jungle
For Mushroom Bridge, while I do agree with your reasonings, I do have some things to comment:
1: Moonview Highway replaced a PREFIX-LESS track, while both Cnsw_56 and Cnsw_66 had prefixes. Specifically GCN. Which leads me to believe that they were always going to be a GCN track, even if the exact one was undecided at the time, plus’s we’ve never seen a retro replace a retro, so why do it now?
2: Moonview Highway’s traffic got nerfed, now being similar to a Flower Cup track, while Mushroom Bridge’s remained relatively the same, which would make that track the harder one, ironically.
3: Tour is infamous for neglecting GCN tracks, as we’ve only had Dino Dino Jungle and Yoshi Circuit for a long time, then we got Baby Park in 2022, but that didn’t really change much. After that, we suddenly got 4 GCN tracks in the span of a year: Waluigi Stadium (it’s render appeared in the banner datamine), Daisy Cruiser, DK Mountain, and of course, Mushroom Bridge. The prefix datamine also had 4 GCN track, all coincidentally the 6th tracks of their respective waves, with Waluigi Stadium being the first to release. This tells me that those tracks were always planned for the BCP. In fact, why even remake Mushroom Bridge for Tour in the first place? Unless we’re getting it in the BCP, plus we don’t have a lot of traffic tracks in 8DX anyway, with 4/88 so far. Getting 5/96 traffic tracks wouldn’t hurt very much, would it?
4: Even if MB is being replaced, we’ve had a Mushroom/Flower Cup track in every wave so far, and with the other retros being from the Star/Special Cups, it would make sense to bring a simpler track to give players an easier time. Which would mean tracks like Airship Fortress, Daisy Circuit, Dry Dry Desert, and Rosalina’s Ice World wouldn’t fit. Tracks that would would be: N64 Frappe Snowland, GBA Luigi Circuit (if you count the GBA Lightning Cup) and 3DS Shy Guy Bazaar. There isn’t a lot, and Mushroom Bridge would still be the best choice anyway. Also, y’all might be inhaling a little too much copium (no offense).
I still think Mushroom Bridge is coming, and if it isn’t, I will gladly take the L. Not like that hasn’t happened before anyway.
I see your points, but I would say even the nerfed Moonview we ended up with is considerably more difficult than Mushroom Bridge, as it still at least has a handful of sharp turns and traffic blindsight moments, as well as risk/reward scenarios with cars frequently driving over dash panels. I can't really imagine what Mushroom Bridge would have going for it in terms of difficulty, aside from people griefing you online by sniping the bomb cars. They would have to make some serious alterations tp the course for it to be a worthy candidate for Wave 6.
Additionally, one of the reasons I chose Daisy Circuit is because it has such a simple layout, despite being a Star Cup track in Wii. It really had no business being in the Wii Star Cup to begin with given its lack of obstacles. However, it would still be more difficult than Mushroom Bridge in my opinion, and it has a much more unique aesthetic to boot.
@@goatprince1 I did see a comment somewhere (can’t remember if it was in this video) that said that Mushroom Bridge could do a Peach Gardens situation and have the last lap in reverse and have the pipe be the way that can happen, since that is still in the Tour remake, despite it being unusable there. While I don’t think that’s going to happen, it is interesting to think about anyway.
As for Daisy Circuit, there are a variety of reasons why I counted it out, aside from it being in the Star Cup:
1: It’s a circuit track. It’s not exactly the most popular theme within the community, even with it’s unique setting.
2: We’re going to be getting a total of 10 Wii tracks after Wave 6 releases. Out of 16. Wii is a popular game, but even that’s kinda pushing it. Adding in Daisy Circuit or any other Wii track would be overkill (Tour has more, but that’s to be expected).
3: We just got Daisy Cruiser. Yes there’s 2 Mario Circuits, but at least there was a wave in between them. Wave 6 does not have that luxury.
4: Even among the remaining Wii tracks, Daisy Circuit isn’t really that popular. While it would be a better choice than Luigi/Mario Circuit, do you really think that the devs would want to put that track in over Bowser’s Castle? Dry Dry Ruins? TOAD’S FACTORY??? Even if you only include the Tour remakes, I would still put Dry Dry Ruins in over Daisy Circuit any day of the week.
I’m not completely disregarding the choice, as it’s Nintendo. They waited 5 years until they finally gave their best selling Switch game some DLC. However, I’m also trying to be realistic and to me, Daisy Circuit (or an 8th Wii track in general) getting in the BCP just seems a little more unrealistic than Mushroom Bridge getting in a wave after Moonview Highway.
Regardless, I really liked the video and the way you explained your reasonings for each choice, even if we disagree on some things. Keep it up!
I guess I will take my L and be on my way, then.
@@FidGame450 The era of 𝓒𝓲𝓻𝓬𝓾𝓲𝓽 is upon us bröther
@@goatprince1 Looks a lot like Peachette for some reason…
YES MY MADRID DRIVE IMAGE IN THE THUMBNAIL!!!
bro took the screenshot
in the 4th aniversary from mktour maybe we are getting mushroom city then the gcn track would be mushroom city and could have diferent routes like kalimari desert and peach gardens
I hate to say it, but there aren't any remaining ID gaps for future courses in Tour. What that means is that there's basically no way we're getting anything beyond the remaining routes for the cities and a handful of additional variants. Development on Tour is pretty much over at this point.
When the piranha plants arent piping :(
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Acorn Cup:
TOUR Rome Avanti
SNES Bowser Castle 3
GCN DK Mountain
Piranha Plant Cove
Spiny Cup
TOUR Madrid Drive
Piranha Plant Pipeline
DS Airship Fortress
Wii Rainbow Road
I just see no reason for mushroom bridge getting replaced and I think it’s too late do I think mushroom bridge will be in wave 6 yes doesn’t matter this is my opinion so yeah
Well this aged well.
"The developers wouldn't just arbitrarily omit a nitro course."
Pipeline:
Also, "Daisy Circuit and Rosalina's Ice World come to mind," little did we know
@@XZavierdoesStuff Daisy Circuit and Ice World always made the most sense as replacement courses due to some combination of being reasonably unique and generally not having unique map objects, the latter of which would have made them easier to port over to the Switch under a looming deadline.
I came up with the "map object" theory to begin with when I noticed that Moonview, a replacement course, didn't feature any unique obstacles except for the bomb cars, which at the time I suspected had been brought into the game for use in Mushroom Bridge but were repurposed for Moonview.
If nothing else, it's neat to see that my theory apparently held true, as the two other replacement courses we ended up getting were indeed in my top three candidates for courses lacking unique map objects.
I agree that Daisy Circuit is a likely replacement for Mushroom Bridge, though I also think GBA Luigi Circuit would be a good pick for the Acorn Cup's 2nd course. Both tracks are circuit tracks that are unconventional, creatively themed, and difficult enough for Wave 6's more climactic feeling, and their status as circuit tracks, as well being basic enough compared to the rest of the Acorn Cup's tracks helps them to fit the trend of the 2nd track in a cup being the most simplistic. Not to mention, both were released in Tour in 2023, fitting into the trend of the BCP's latter half being comprised mostly of recent Tour additions. Luigi Circuit also has the benefit of being able to recycle music from GBA Mario Circuit, making it even easier to port over than Daisy Circuit.
Nah man Daisy Circuit is incredibly easy and would be a very bad pick for wave 6. GBA Luigi Circuit though would be a lot better due to it coming from a game that's not represented quite as much, it being a better fit thematically for the BCP, and it potentially having a much more interesting and fun layout. It still wouldn't exactly be my top pick, but it'd be a neat surprise to see.
I feel like a lot of people don’t point this out but like Tour never gets Double Dash representation. In fact it took two and a half years after the game’s launch to get another GCN track that being Baby Park. By the time that track came out though, the BCP launched already and then we basically got 4 GCN tracks in the span of 1 year (and the prefix leak literally suggested that the developers planned for exactly 4 GCN tracks too from the start) which granted were in development prior to the BCP and may have released sooner if it weren’t for COVID but who’s to say the BCP was planned for this long? Hell Nintendo said the Breath of the Wild DLC for 8 Deluxe wasn’t the only DLC we were getting and that was years before the BCP was even announced. I think Tour and it’s inevitable ports to 8 Deluxe were planned years in advanced.
Back to the Double Dash courses, it also makes sense how they were released in both 8 Deluxe and Tour: Waluigi Stadium came out first since it had a full render in the banner leak, Daisy Cruiser came next, DK Mountain after, and Mushroom Bridge last. Considering Waluigi Stadium is cnsw_36 and Daisy Cruiser was cnsw_46, I wouldn’t be surprised if DK Mountain and Mushroom Bridge was cnsw_56 and cnsw_66 to everyone’s surprise. And that’s also not to say that Moonview Highway got a massive nerf from its original incarnation and with the nerf it’s basically a Flower Cup course now. Mushroom Bridge with its varied traffic and two unique cars as well (the Mushroom Car which acts like the ptooies in Riverside Park and the Wiggler Wagons), much more varied routes being the sidewalks, the dirt cut halfway through, and the bridge railings which can easily be trapped (and are faster than the main route) and honestly you got yourself a more dynamically interesting traffic course than Moonview Highway which has much less than that and obviously the nerf in difficulty. And I can’t stress enough that having 5 traffic courses out of 96 tracks is a good thing. Before the BCP, we had 1 out of 48 so now having 5 out of 96 I think is great even if Mushroom City would’ve been more desirable. Granted yes Mushroom Bridge would be a slap in the face considering the rest of the Wave 6 retro lineup but we also got a Flower Cup course in every wave as well as a buzzkill so it can happen.
And besides I’m pretty certain they added Moonview Highway to fill up that missing spot due to it either being a early scrapped nitro or it being a placeholder and that’s why all the shuffling happened so as to not have 3 Wii tracks in the same wave as well as possibly Mushroom Bridge then being also 2 traffic courses in one wave.
The only thing we didn't expect was pipeline actually getting cut
My predictions for wave 6:
Acorn Cup
• Rome Avanti
• Mushroom Bridge
• Bowser Castle 3
• Piranha Plant Cove
Spiny Cup
• Madrid Drive
• DK Mountain
• Piranha Plant Pipeline
• Wii Rainbow Road
Characters: Diddy Kong, Pauline
I don't think it's impossible that Mushroom Bridge could be replaced, but I don't think it's likely either. I think the most likely candidate to replace it would be Airship Fortress. I'm not sure why so many people think Daisy Circuit could replace Mushroom Bridge when it's probably easier than the course it would be replacing. I think it was after Albert Boris uploaded his prediction video when everyone suddenly started predicting Daisy Circuit. Maybe Bridge wasn't even planned in the first place and we get both jungle courses, considering they were planned for two different waves originally (despite the clashing themes, I would love this to happen, not as much as Airship Fortress though).
I still can't imagine why Moonview Highway would have been chosen over something like Daisy Circuit or Rosalina's Ice World, which wouldn't have caused nearly as much thematic overlap.
To be fair Harry, I’ve predicted Daisy Circuit before Albert Boris tbh, so you are kind of wrong. I’m in his server and we discuss leaks and stuff. And you haven’t replied to the last comment I sent, did something happen or did I get you confused?
@@goatprince1Literally what I said was that Wave 6 might’ve solved all of our answers and the DLC speculation as whole, I said this in the Discord server right after Wave 5.
Moonview Highway was created and chosen during the development of Wave 3 era, and that can explain why there was a rumor going all about that Maple Treeway was moved out of Wave 6 into Wave 3 because they didn’t want 2 Wii courses in one Cup. I think what they likely tried to do was having both DK Mountain and Dino Dino Jungle to end up in the same pass, but due to the swaps and changes and the variety would’ve been weird without the changes, they had to kill one of the Jungles, and then they decided on another retro that can fit Wave 6. Because it makes no sense to do all of these swaps just for 2 Jungle courses to make it into Wave 6. So in my opinion, DK Mountain was Cnsw_56 and Dino Dino Jungle was Cnsw_66.
@@DarkPrince777 I know some people did predict Daisy Circuit before Albert Boris, for legitimate reasons other than 'I saw other people do it', but the number has increased a lot since his video. I think at least a third of the people who now predict Daisy Circuit had seen Albert Boris' video before including it in their wave 6 predictions.
By your last comment, I assume you mean the one about the theory of every tour having a BCP course. Am I correct? I don't believe that theory, but I do understand why you think it points to Daisy Circuit's inclusion.
Tbh I think Mushroom Bridge is more exciting than Daisy Circuit and its honestly a lot more likely to happen than what people think. Idk Nintendo pushing out an 8th Wii course that may have not been originally planned like Moonview Highway is even more unrealistic imo.
Wave 6 predictions:
Acorn Cup
Tour Rome Avanti
GCN Mushroom Bridge
Tour Piranha Plant Cove
SNES Bowser’s Castle 3
Spiny Cup
Tour Madrid Drive
GCN DK Mountain/GCN Dino Dino Jungle
Tour Piranha Plant Pipeline
Wii Rainbow Road
Here is my predictions for wave 6.
Acorn Cup - Madrid Drive, Piranha Plant Cove, GCN DK Mountain, and Wii Rainbow Road.
Spiny Cup - Piranha Plant Pipeline, SNES Bowser’s Castle, Rome Avanti, and GCN Rainbow Road.
That is all.
GCN Rainbow Road 💀
@@goatprince1 that is unless GBA Bowser castle 4 or GCN Mushroom City showed up out of nowhere.
@@megang1396Not in Tour, and the gaps are closed.
@@DarkPrince777 what do you mean not in tour? GBA Bowser Castle 4 is in Tour.
@@megang1396 Not GBA BC4, GCN RR.
And your predictions look kinda wack tbh, nothing hurtful.
I'm going with:
Acorn:
Rome Avanti
3DS Rosalina's Ice World
SNES BC3
Piranha Plant Cove
Spiny:
Madrid Drive
GCN DK Mountain
Dokan Course (Piranha Plant Pipeline)
Wii Rainbow Road
I want come gc after bowserscastle And last is rainbowroad.
dino dino jungle is more popular and better than dk mountain
I personally think it's the better course, but it's definitely not more popular. DK Mountain is _the_ fan favorite course of Double Dash.
While not a bad prediction due to Nintendo's insistence on doing dumb things sometimes, Daisy Circuit would be a *very* bad choice for wave 6. Conceptually it's both yet another town/city track AND yet another circuit track, it's designed in a way that doesn't use either of its themes well, it's incredibly easy (and boring) to the point where Mushroom Bridge would've been much more fitting track for wave 6, and it would be an 8th Wii track (without being nearly as much as of a fan favorite as any other Wii track in the BCP). While I get we already have 7, I find it difficult to believe they would deliberately replace Mushroom Bridge with another Wii track when they have other more viable options from games that are less represented in the BCP.
Speaking of which, I think DS Airship Fortress is the most likely replacement track. There's absolutely no way Nintendo isn't aware of the track's status as a fan favorite. In terms of its theme overlap, yes it exists as a second lava course in the same wave, but I think that's fine since it's making up for the complete lack of that theme in the entire rest of the BCP. Not to mention the marketing potential in terms of finally providing such a heavy hitter fan favorite after teasing fans with the idea for so long, as opposed to some Wii track that at best isn't that well known and at worst is actively disliked. And of course, there's potential for the retros to be shuffled around to the point where I think it'll most likely be something like this:
Acorn Cup:
Tour Madrid Drive
DS Airship Fortress
GCN Dino Dino Jungle
Piranha Plant Cove
Spiny Cup:
Tour Rome Avanti
Piranha Plant Pipeline
SNES Bowser Castle 3
Wii Rainbow Road
While you could argue that SNES BC 3 isn't as much of a powerhouse track as one of the GCN jungle picks, and thus shouldn't be in the Spiny Cup, I'd argue that the thematic cohesion of having the Bowser Castle appear right before Rainbow Road makes up for it. And of course, that design would allow them to easily have BC 3 be just far away enough from Airship Fortress for it to not be jarring on the track selection screen or anything. Also, I'll quickly mention that I think Dino Dino Jungle is a little more likely than DK Mountain (it may absolutely be the latter though), and I think Nintendo will swap the order of the Tour cities for no clear reason, lol.
Daisy Circuit is coming out 💀
@@otfMessi Jesus fucking christ man, it's like they even knew how stupid of a choice the track was since they added a glider ramp and dash panels out of nowhere, and they gave us extra characters to compensate for the track selection coming up short
I still dont buy these stuff at all because you people are forgetting that Nintendo doesnt care about your continuous predictions being the same pattern all the time at all since they will add tracks that you cant even predict by Tours ID's or leaks anymore.
but anyways i still believe that what the pattern on what the pass was hinting based on the tracks where added will be the following:
2 city tracks
1 Nitro either its new or existing
1 GBA track
1 winter track
1 spooky track
1 new retro track that Tour wont reveal till the BCP reveal it first.
Dude, Nintendo explicitly stated that Tour will soon stop getting any new content, by now you gotta *at least* give up the idea that there'll be anything not already in Tour, otherwise you're going to be disappointed.
Literally almost all of the tracks have been leaked over time except for a select few
I'm eleven days late to your comment, but I'll bite.
There are no specific patterns that the BCP developers intentionally adhere to when selecting the courses for each wave, other than each cup beginning with a city course, and the eventual inclusion of every single Tour course in the pass such that the BCP is able to function as a complete and permanent archive of Tour's original tracks. The final wave can't be deduced by trying to extrapolate superficial patterns from past waves regarding course theming and game representation. Rather, the only way to accurately solve the remainder of the pass is through the prefix datamine - which has a known track record of 31 of 33 courses - and the obvious corresponding content in Tour. Nintendo has shown time and time again through four consecutive waves that they aren't just changing things for no reason, so there's hardly any sense in doubting the prefix datamine when it comes to predicting the seven unknown tracks of Wave 6.
There have so far been only two instances of the BCP defying the prefix datamine, and both happened for very clear and logical reasons. We got Moonview Highway instead of that mysterious final nitro course because said nitro course had been scrapped altogether by the Tour developers, giving the BCP team no choice but to throw in an extra retro course. We're getting Daisy Circuit instead of Mushroom Bridge because the latter course would have been a horribly basic and redundant choice for Wave 6 (or even Wave 5, for that matter) and was cut to make way for something more substantial and distinctive. Or, if the original Wave 5 GCN course had instead been some track that was planned for Tour but never ended up being made, then the inclusion of Daisy Circuit would be entirely self-explanatory, as whichever GCN course had been cancelled would have _needed_ to be replaced.
Across all the courses that the prefix datamine points toward, not one has any actual reason to be replaced by anything.
We're getting the four remaining Tour courses because the BCP is Nintendo's only shot at preserving all of the Tour tracks in a single, permanent package. The notion that they would go so far as to include twenty Tour courses but then arbitrarily decide to leave a single one stranded in an impermanent mobile game is absolutely absurd. If it was never Nintendo's intention to archive all of the Tour tracks, then they wouldn't have bothered to include even half of them in the pass to begin with.
We're getting Wii Rainbow Road because Nintendo, by ending the first row of courses with 3DS Rainbow Road, has plainly set up the expectation that the second row of courses will similarly end with a fan favorite Rainbow Road. There isn't a single course in Tour besides Wii Rainbow Road that would make for a suitable finale for the entire pass to begin with. Additionally, actually consider a scenario in which 3DS Rainbow Road were the only Rainbow Road in the pass; It would make no sense for it to be featured as the Wave 3 finale instead of being saved for Wave 6 when whatever finale they had in mind for the final wave simply wouldn't be able to live up to one of the most revered courses in the entire series.
We're getting SNES Bowser Castle 3 because it was blatantly and flagrantly designed with MK8's anti-gravity mechanic in mind and is arguably the single most impressive glow-up that any retro course has ever received. Finally, we're getting either of the two GCN jungle courses because we still only have two GCN tracks in the entire pass, with either of the jungles being a fan favorite that would work great as a finale to the lineup of GCN courses.
Every single one of these courses is either extremely likely on the grounds of being very cinematic and/or a fan favorite, or is simply required to be included on the grounds of being a Tour course. There's no Mushroom Bridge or "mystery nitro track" situation to be had here; The selection of courses suggested by the prefix datamine lines up perfectly with what would theoretically be the most logical and marketable lineup of tracks for the final wave given the content available in Tour. There's no reason for any of it to be changed.
Also, the chances of a new Tour retro happening are zero to none. Even by the time you had posted your comment, the official newsletter announcing that there wouldn't be any new content in the game following the Anniversary Tour was already out. If the fact that there were no remaining ID gaps somehow weren't sufficient evidence of that on its own, then the newsletter was the indisputable nail in the coffin. Tour is 100% finished with new content, so we're not getting anything in Wave 6 that isn't already in Tour.
My predictions are…
Acorn Cup:
Tour Rome Avanti
GCN Mushroom Bridge/Wii Daisy Circuit/3DS Rosalina's Ice World
SNES Bowser Castle 3
Tour Piranha Plant Cove
Spiny Cup:
Tour Madrid Drive
GCN DK Mountain/GCN Dino Dino Jungle
Tour Piranha Plant Pipeline
Wii Rainbow Road
New Characters:
Diddy Kong/Funky Kong
Pauline
acorn cup
tour rome avanti
gcn mushroom bridge
snes bowser castle 3
tour piranha plant pipeline
spiny cup
tour madrid motorway
gcn dk mountain/dino dino jungle
tour piranha plant cove
wii rainbow road
pauline and diddy/funky
Don’t know whether it’s gonna be Diddy or Funky? It’s 100% gonna be Diddy
agreed thats is why i put a slash fr either one to make it in@@WritingCountingOriginal
Unless there a secret 3 roster spot
If we do get Wii Rainbow Road as Spiny Final, it would've made more sense for it to be in Moon Final and 3DS Rainbow Road in Spiny Final due to 3DS Rainbow Road being better than Wii Rainbow Road.
Still, I don't see what guarantees Moonview Highway to have replaced a Nitro track rather than have been a place swap or a misnumbering (also why would there be 2 tracks of a same game that is not Tour in one cup anyway?)
Moonview's internal number being 63 confirms that it replaced a nitro slot from the prefix datamine. The number 63 coincides with the third slot of the Acorn Cup, which in the prefix datamine has no prefix. There's not even a nitro course in Tour that could go into that spot to begin with.
@@goatprince1 I repeat. This track might not be on Tour, if Wii Rainbow Road does get added, I'd be disappointed cause the spot for Spiny Final should've been 3DS Rainbow Road. Why close the pass with the second best Rainbow Road?
Again, it MIGHT (focus on might) be a misnumbering or place swapping and if it is a new track it wouldn't be in Tour due to the track being the closure of the pass, y'all jump to the conclusion it was replaced rather than misnumbered, a new track would be better to close the pass if 3DS Rainbow Road isn't and since Tour is done adding new content, makes sense this hypothetical new track not being there since the track would close the pass. Could be a "travel from point A to point B track" where at the goal says "The end. Thanks for playing!" hence not appearing on Tour, still, I do not discard the possibility of Wii Rainbow Road being the last track of the pass, but if it ends up being the last track of the pass, I'd be disappointed for 3DS Rainbow Road not having that spot.
@@redviolet69 Every single course in the BCP so far has come from Tour, so I don't see the point in humoring the possibility of an entirely original track exclusive to 8DX. That's a completely unprecedented scenario.
@@goatprince1 Except that this track would close the pass, hence would be unique. If it ends up being Wii Rainbow Road, I'll just cry in the corner for them not closing the pass with 3DS Rainbow Road.
@@redviolet69 Have fun doing that then
my predictions for wave 6:
acorn cup
1 madrid drive because is too basic
2 mushroom city
3 RMX vanilla lake 2 because its totaly new and has advertisements
4 Piranha plant pipeline, like squeaky clean sprint and yoshi island its a nitro track and would have the same spot, the last track of the 1st cup
spiny cup:
1 rome avanti
2 dino dino jungle because also has advertisements
3 piranha plant cove to be like the other city tracks (singapore and vancouver) as the third and last city track of the wave
4 mario circuit 1
just kidding! wii rainbow road
Madrid drive is too simple? You are a crazy boy. Madrid drive is much complex than the boring Rome Avanti.
Your Prediction Daisy Circuit Rock it hard and for another one you guess it...😅
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