Drinker, I love the channel brother I have a recommendation for a drink show combination, get you some Plantation three star white rum and enjoy some Sam Axe style mojitos watch Burn Notice.... brother that show needs a shout out, great television!
The Cybermen are favorites of mine because they are, more or less, an army of the Undead. Such a thing cannot be stopped, as you will never have enough bullets, and they can replace their losses by using yours as fresh stock. Fuck the daleks. Cybermen are perfection, as they cannot feel anything. No more torment, be it physical or mental, and immunity to fear. That is perfection, and they wouldn't have to make my upgrade mandatory, I'd volunteer.
Gotta give it to you... the last season of DW was bad... that being said maybe the next doctor will be at least sightly better (which should not be that hard) also maybe they can do another universe reset just to erase this from canon
White people seem hell bent on destroying all their own accomplishments, all in the name of some falsely placed guilt that borders on fetishizing. It's really disturbing and sad.
"You are the random chosen one." That sounds stupid. The Doctor being just a regular Time Lord who decided to go rogue and abuse his powers for the better of others is unique and ultimately interesting. It makes him unpredictable, grants an air of mystery, and makes him relatable; because he's not special because of what he is, but because of his character. The Doctor sets his own course. This fate bullshit where the "Doctor" is a special Being who is the source of the Time Lords is below fanfiction quality writing. You'll notice how this did nothing to the Doctor's character. It just makes her "THE SPECIAL" at the expense of well crafted lore. Unlike the War Doctor, who shook up everything we knew about him, caused conflict, and ultimately improved our fundamental understanding of his overall character. This new retcon is a waste of time and demoted the character overall.
The Doctor being a well meaning renegade Time Lord is made even more impactful when you realise that most of the other renegade Time Lords aren‘t well meaning. They do what they do because they‘re driven by destruction, because they want space to conduct immoral scientific experiments, because they want to irreparably play with history to make it conform to their idea of perfection, because they want to watch living beings from different species and times fight one another. Not because they just want to escape monotony and see the sights with their granddaughter, or nudge people in the right direction, or help the impoverished and enslaved win their battles for freedom and save people, by, occasionally, sacrificing himself. The Doctor is unique not because of his birth but unique because of how different he is to other Time Lords. He doesn‘t view other species as ants who may or may not get squashed as he walks but as beautiful and complex and worth his hearts and lives. That‘s why he‘s so incredibly special, because he‘s from a race who are like gods unto everybody else but has sympathy and empathy and compassion and puts those feelings to good use, not because he was born special
exactly and i loved with the 11th doctor we see that when he works hard to save races, he will always end up killing or erasing another and the episode that dives into that is one of my favorites, seeing such a complicated subject looked at because the doctor thought he was doing good and justice. hes not necessarily wrong like they accuse him of being in the star beast but they offer different perspectives on the subject and let the viewer know that there isn’t a right answer. in doctor who ive always seen most episodes as able to be taken as ‘there isnt always a right answer’
I agree but personally I don't feel like the War Doctor really helped. It's an interesting idea but he's supposed to be the mysterious/forgotten incarnation though I think he may have had more if not equal screen time as 8 who really should've been the War Doctor after Eccleston decided not to return instead of making the numbering messy. I also feel like it wasn't really a good/fair bridge between 8 and 9. If anything, it seriously creates a further rift between classic and new who for me. Plus the thought of the Doctor drinking from a cup to become a warrior feels a bit pointless considering any other Time Lord could've done the same thing. In fact RTD's original intention was to have 8 be the War Doctor. However, I do seem to seen to be in the minority who thinks McGann should've just been the War Doctor as the War Doctor was of course very well recieved 😖
Brilliant! There actually is a Doctor Who villain who gets in the Doctor’s head and messes with reality. The Dream Lord as played by Toby Jones. All the crap since Capaldi left could be wiped out of existence.
This should be the *best* time to be a geek, but the ones ruling the roost have henpecked away all the wonder, creativity, and compelling characters that made us fall in love with all these movies and shows in the first place. Even 7 or 8/10 of the games coming out now suck right out the gate when tech is only going up like what the absolute hell is going on
Jason Remington I’m deeply sorry. Being only a fan of Star Wars, it was quite easy to just quietly bury it in the backyard and move on with my life. If all of my favorite franchises were systemically taken down for seemingly no reason, I don’t know what I’d do.
I remember being with my family, huddled around the TV, on the Christmas of 2010 and watching Doctor Who. We all cried when David Tennant regenerated and it laughed when Matt Smith appeared, we were so excited for Doctor Who to return after. I miss those days
BBC: the Doctor can regenerate an infinite amount of times Fans: remember how the 11th Doctor needed to be given regeneration energy regenerate into 12th because he had exhausted his 12 regenerations? BBC: yes, but no
The Time Lords covered their asses and gave fake regenerations so he didn't old himself to Peter Capaldi At least them covering their asses would be consistent
@@redjirachi1 Meaning their goverment knew that they had to cover their asses, meaning the Doctor being Lord President TWICE should know, and his friend/companion Romana should know as she became Lord(/Lady?) President, funny how she didn't tell her friend about it. Besides, Doctor was dying for old age for a LONG time by that point. If he could Regenerate, he would long before he would age to that point. Notice how Regeneration kicks in immediately when they gave it to him? That's how old he was! The 1st Doctor (William Hartnell, since now that title might be confusing) Regenerated due to old age when he was 400-ish years old, 12th was about 1100 years (meaning how long his incarnation had been running about, not his actual age).
So The Doctor regenerated into a bunch of different female and non-white forms then all of a sudden he just decides to go through a 13 streak run of white men?
@@andnowawordfromoursponsors4439 I have no counter argument. I have said many times that I have no problem with a woman playing the Doctor, so long as they cast the right woman. Jodi was clearly the wrong woman for the roll.
My thought. Anything post Matt Smith is just a load of rubbish imo yes that includes Capaldi as well. Eccleston/Tennant was the golden age of the show, Smith was the dying embers that still entertained. Anything that came after isn't Doctor Who its just some drama uni grads trying to be entertaining/teachers/funny.
I'm a woman who has loved and watched nearly every episode of Dr Who since I was a kid. But the episode where the Doctor became a woman was the last one I ever watched. Not so much because he became a woman as that I knew this was the start of the corruption of my favorite franchise by "the message." I didn't have the heart to see it happen.
You are absolutely spot on. DR. WHO did not need fixing.. This Fake Imposter "Doctor" has no place in the Whoniverse...I never watched 1 episode..I already knew even from the pencil-thin Logo to the rags the character threw on it was going to be male-bashing anti-Brit trash rubbish...the True Evil was the Imposter bitchy "Doctor"...
I couldn't get through all the Capaldi episodes but a few were good but they lost me at the woman. I love strong women but the show lost something. Man, I miss getting so excited to watch the next episode with my family. So sad.
@Captain McDog I wonder about this sometimes. Maybe it's part of human nature, but I think iconic male characters appeal equally to men and women, whereas iconic female characters generally appeal less to men. There are a few, like Ripley from Alien, who have wide appeal, but they tend to be less feminine. As a consequence we have a long history in movies and TV where the vast majority of the greatest, most iconic and most loved characters are male. This fact totally angers the modern SJW crowd who now control a lot of entertainment production, and so we see many famous older male characters being deconstructed, nullified or even reinvented as women (as in the case of Doctor Who). I could perhaps stomach some of this SJW nonsense in modern film and TV if only the stories were well written, consistent, thoughtful, mature and entertaining. But as the Critical Drinker hilariously points out they are usually anything but.
The more I think about this retcon the more infuriating it is. It’s so bad that I can’t believe Chibnall wrote this for any other reason than pure spite.
just treat it like it never happened. at the end of Peter capaldi's run he decided not to regenerate. if you look at it that way it's actually kind of beautiful. all of the things got wrapped up pretty beautifully. he recovered the time lords. the girl got to travel the universe and a tardis. he saved all those people and he even reconciled with the master . it's basically the perfect way to wrap up the show so if you just treat it like that was the end it works..
Wouldn't be surprised if he did write it out of spite for the old guard/fans. We have been throwing criticisms at him and BBC ever since episode 1 of series 11 and we amped it up after Arachnids in the UK. I feel like his thought process was similar to "I'm fed up of all these whiners complaining, so I'll do something so drastic it will force them to leave permanently so then I'm left with my own supportive fanbase", before releasing that he doesn't have one and he literally just got rid of all the viewers except those who want a good laugh, those too lazy to change the channel and those too bored to care.
he did it for self gratification mostly, people like them dont care about anything other then being seen to be doing good, its a mental illness, thou must do good and be shown to doing so.
They all do it out of spite. You are not fans to them, you're new recruits for the agenda and when you tell them what they're writing for is a fucking show and not their craptastic blog with a show theme they screech internally in rage and double down. Even the most mediocre writer would of taken the cricitism in in some way and made an attempt after a certain point but that would meant to them that they have to accept the notion that their self image as bringers of moral enlightenment to the ignorant masses is wrong and people think for themselves and not there to fufill some fantasy of a gasping, applauding crowd.
Remember in Star Trek TNG when Data said that television didn't last much past the turn of the 21 century....well I think it's the beginning of that ending.
I'm fairly certain that when it was written, the writers assumed people would be more into the PBS style of entertainment. They still watch plays and attend classical concerts, after all. They couldn't have thought the reason why people lost interest in TV was because the shows became patronizing, rehashed sludge.
But didn't you see Picard? Apparently, TV makes a comeback in the 24th century along with poverty and class warfare. It's almost like the writers are talentless hacks who are incapable of writing anything other than lame soap operas with forced conflict and pointless melodrama.
@@SmallFries01 I guess they forgot about synthehol and the entire plot of 'The Undiscovered Country'. Either that or the writers skipped those Memory Alpha entries during their "research".
Non-Whovians, please judge Dr. Who by its 50+ years of excellence rather than its few years of B.S. The show used to be so amazing. 😭 R.I.P., Dr. Who…I’ll always love you 😢
@00ammy00 You could go back to the very beginning (1963) or start with Series 1 (2005). Christopher Ecceleston is great as the Doctor. People should never skip him.
That's what I should tell them after sending them a birthday cake which I've taken a shit in and reassuring them that it isn't ruined, I've just added a little something to it.
I don’t know. That one seemed like he was trying to make it sound sad, with the violin music in the background. I just felt it in the way he said it for this video.
Well, guy is a writer, so one of the few iconic Brit TV shows being turned to crap to satisfy the egos of a bunch of third rate, no talent hacks may actually hit a bit close to home.
Hollywood killed of and destroyed the X Men in much the same fashion. Signing off from what used to be the United States, I don't know what we will be, but it won't be united.
The thing with Doctor Who: it never got a true reboot, so the universe with the First Doctor is the same universe with the Thirteenth, whereas Star Trek had Vulcan get destroyed for Abrams, and I think for STD and the others after, so it’s clearly a parallel reality. And in Marvel, not much that happens in the movies affects things that happened in the comics in the 60s. For Doctor Who, it’s particularly apt to have going back to the photo album as a way to show you can’t even enjoy the original now, because they say it’s a lie by canon. Like how River Song didn’t get her abilities the way we were told.
Impossible OWSALD...Derived from the Old English elements os "god" and weald "power, ruler".OSWALD was killed by jack ruby who gave odis burkett a wallet that came to charlie burkett,doctor who aired november 23 a day after JFK INCIDENTJenna ColemanfriendedCharlieBurkett oklahoma oklahoma is said 3 times in the 2005 reboot of Doctor who.The doctor is a promise...promise in hebrew is savah.The 7th doctor (sylvester mccoy)came to OKLAHOMA told charlie burkett who was born september 8th 1985 the year there was a hiatus ...in september 7th 1987 sylvester mccoy becomes the doctor(a day before september 8th my birthdate).Charlie Burkett asked god on easter if he could become doctor who and god answered with a meteor,charlie went insane and thought himself jesus and was committed and lost faith.Charlie saw on EASTER 2021 a meteor in sky.13....the 13th doctor According to the Bible, number 13 can be seen as a number of rebellion. Actually, the first appearance of this number in the Bible is associated with rebellion and we can see it in Genesis 14:4. It is said in the Bible that number 13 is a symbol of all governments that a man has created and that Satan has inspired....charlie burkett MUST become 14...The number 14 represents deliverance or salvation and is used twenty-two times in the Bible. The term "14th" is found 24 times in scriptures. The fourteenth day of the first month is the Passover, when God delivered the firstborn of Israel from death. Some 430 years earlier, on the night of the 14th day of the first month, God made two covenant promises to Abraham - one of the physical seed, Isaac, and his descendants, and one of the spiritual seed, Jesus Christ, and the sons of God who would come through Him, who would shine like the stars of heaven (Matthew 13:43). On the day portion of the 14th, God confirmed the promises with a special covenant sacrifice. "After these things the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision, saying, 'Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your exceedingly great reward.' But Abram said, 'Lord GOD, what will You give me, seeing I go childless, and the heir of my house is Eliezer of Damascus?' . . . "And behold, the word of the Lord came to him, saying, 'This one shall not be your heir, but one who will come from your own body shall be your heir.' Then He brought him outside and said, 'Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them.' And He said to him, 'So shall your descendants be'" (Genesis 15:1 - 2, 4 - 5, NKJV).
Funny how the BBC is making the Doctor have unlimited regenerations aside from the fact he had a limit to 12 and the Time Lords gifted him an extra full regeneration cycle (presumably 12 more.) If the Doctor had an unlimited amount of regenerations, the Time Lords didn't need to gift him more and River Song wouldn't have needed to give up her remaining regenerations in order to save him, either. Also, imagine if Capaldi's Doctor wakes up and the Timeless Children nonsense was all a nightmare created by the Dream Lord
They could of honestly of found a way around simply by saying "there are some uncommon cases of time lords were lucky enough to have 13 regenerations and even rarer cases where time lords have gone past 13 regenerations but they become volatile, their regeneration can turn planets into stars if left unchecked, so it was common practise to kill them during mid regeneration after the 12th cycle." There, reason why without making insanely special.
Nothing after capaldi was canon. He was finally laid to rest. No more screaming and more pain. He went into his tardis, laid down, and passed on peacefully in reflection of his former selves. He wakes in heaven, and is greeted by Clara, Amy, Rory, and all his companions that didnt make it. He is at peace. He's whole.
@@holyrolypoly The Teddybear-Metaphor is beyond Epic. It makes me sick though that some extreme People try to just randomly use our dislike of Wokeness to manipulate us now. Randomly claiming the things you disagree with are Woke just to get us to dislike it happens now, even with Bills. H-ck, i even saw the Misusage of the phrase Go woke, Go broke, which means something that means ‚Stop politcizing everything, dammit’ has now been Politicized.
Regarding the retconning, there's a silver lining in the old expression "two can play at that game." If the show ever gets a good showrunner who cares about the lore, all they have to do is start their new season with the Doctor imprisoned in some kind of Matrix style computer simulation and reveal that everything after Peter Capaldi (and maybe some of Peter Capaldi) was fake. A computer simulation to keep the Doctor occupied while the new bad guys do their thing in the real world. You could even have it so that everything that happened in the simulation was controlled by the bad guys to demoralise the Doctor and weaken his psyche. There, problem solved.
@@alexanderneronov2348 Russell Davies is returning and while that is possibly decent, there can't possibly be enough to save the show at this point. Not enough at least. Some fans claim Davies went woke long before the mid 2010s began this stupid trend and therefore, dont expect him to have his mid 2000s quality
The people in charge will never allow this, all these shows being fucked is part of a plan to force a new "normal". Sadly this propaganda is going to be one of the main hills they chose to fight and die on.
The worst part is that if instead of the Doctor, the Timeless Child was the Master, and the explorer Rassilon, this story would have worked beautifully. It would have given The Master a reason to be mad, it would have explained why he keeps coming back when many of his deaths have seemed so final and it would explain why Rassilon has unlimited regenerations (he limited everyone else's amount in order to gain control).
Yeah, the Timeless Child kinda ruined Doctor Who for me, I always saw the Doctor as a zero to hero. He was a nobody, like really he was just another timelord. Till one day he just decided to do some shit and he became a legend. I thought that was really inspiring, from a commoner to a legend. But well he is now the "reencarnation or continuation" of a incredible being. Geez how fun. Ps. Sorry for any mispelled english
Maybe it will turn out to be beautiful. Maybe the Master is lying on purpose, the Doctor is still the Doctor (well, kinda...), the Timeless Child is Romana (remember, she could regenerate on purpose into any form she wanted), and the Rani is disguising herself as that wanna-be FD (Fake-Doctor), working with the Master to confuse and torture the Doctor. And maybe they even remember that the Other (companion of Rassilon and Omega) was woven into the Doctor (was in a novel, but still better than the actual *censored*).
As someone who grew up with 9 and 10, it’s genuinely horrible to see what has happened to the show. It was a honestly upsetting experience making the decision to stop tuning into new episodes
I was 4 years old when i first watcned dr who with the 4th tom baker and he was the best Dr by far...this show is finished there's no coming back for it they've killed it.
I've been watching "Doctor Who" since I was a small child in the early '80s (on PBS out of Dallas, Texas) and I have refused to engage in this season or this show anymore. I had enough during the first season of her run.
Same, after years of quality seasons that entertain and challenge the audience, now we have this show that uses the name of Doctor Who to bring in viewers but completely disregards what came before it. It has no respect for the fans or the previous seasons. It was a sad time when I made the decision to stop watching but I no longer have to watch them ruin my childhood memories. It’s ironic how people complained that Steven Moffat’s stories were too convoluted but now we have this garbage and I find my self wishing for the good old days.
"Mean Spirited" is such a good way to describe it. Doctor Who, Star Wars, Star Trek. I'm not really a conspiracy person, but it feels like there is some shadowy Cabal at the center of all it. A group that doesn't seem to care at all about money, as long as the "agenda" gets forced down our throats.
A purposeful conspiracy would almost be the preferable option. But I think it's just plain old hubris and elitism with a dash of nepotism. You don't need a shadowy cabal calling the shots when everyone involved has already drunk the Kool-Aid and they exclude anyone who hasn't by demonizing them as various -ists and -isms based on a fundamentally flawed theory of human behavior.
What annoys me is that Gallifrey is in a Time Lock, since they possess time travel they ensured no one could mess with their past. The Timeless Child annoys me because there’s no way to bring the Time Lords back. They’re gone now because apparently a race that held back the Daleks can all be killed by the Master on his own.
Not the only franchise run by people that hate it, it applies to Terminator, ended at T2, with Star Wars nothing after episode 6 besides the Mandalorian, Star Trek Enterprise, at least we got the Orville carrying on the torch of hope and optimism that Star Trek represented.
Why is it even called "doctor who" now? "who" implies a sense of mystery but when you cheaply sell that mystery out with one episode, what's the point??
The only hope i have is they split missy and the master into two separate characters that and the adopted mother of doctor was actually missy and was all a lie and missy planted fake memories of regenerations into her mind using the matrix therefore undoing this crap. Time can re rewritten.
@@Nerdexoticthat’s actually a really good idea. if they do something like that, they could have the black female doctor who showed up( I don’t remember her name) be a future doctor who had some of her memories lost( I wouldn’t mind if she came back, she was better than Jodie in my opinion).
@@williamwebb1786 It would actually makes sense the master always lies to the doctor why not this? and these arent other doctors they are are other timelords.
Drinker, you impeccable specimen of refined style and wit. This has cemented you in my opinion as one of the best reviewers on the platform. Your ability to pinpoint the flaws of a particular work, and expound on them eloquently is truly remarkable. Thank you for the work that you do.
@@bf945 Same with kathleen K. I bet there's a story about a little spoiled brat that wasn't allowed near her brother's action figures and was forced to play with barbie and ken. Or the boys in school didn't let her play Leia, as she didn't understand the difference between a disney princess and Leia "omgsheissobadass" Organa, or somesuch. Conniving little such-and-so is getting back at someone.. Of that I'm 1337% convinced..
I vaguely remember watching this, but at the point where I saw the “Doctor” was a little girl that was essentially tortured by a mad scientist to “discover” the secret of regeneration I must of gone into shock as I don’t remember the rest of the story. I do remember subscribing to a streaming service so I could rewatch the better written and acted stories from the last 50+ years of Doctor Who so I’m glad I found your review because I had just about convinced myself that this story didn’t exist and I had imagined it after eating and drinking excessively 🤪
You lucky soul, I watch this terrible series from the start, with hope that it would improve later but it didn't it just get worse, it just get WORSE!!!!!
Seriously, you could feel his defeat at having to surrender a long treasured character and show. It how I felt when they rapidly used up all the remaining regenerations Matt Smith has left and just started giving endless regenerations. That move needlessly stole so much value from the character for me. That's when I walked as well.
We feel the same way he said it. I too grew up on Dr Who from a young age. Being in the US and watching Dr Who was a special kind for geek/nerd-ness. I loved watching that scifi, so different and unique. Now? Just fast food. Thankfully, I have my childhood memories of the real Dr Who.
"experimented on the child by killing the child repeatedly and studying the regeneration"..... Too bad this is the exact story of the creation of Doomsday from The Death of Superman back in 1992.. Writer "you think anyone will notice this is the origin of Doomsday, the guy who killed Superman?" Producers" Nahhhhh it'll be fine...."
Ironically as I look at this I see a suggestion that says: Injustice 2, superman kills branianc, like even the google suggestions, atleast on my end, seems to have picked up on this.
AK K ok but….the question Doctor Who? Could already be answered. A man from gallifrey. We now know he didn’t come from gallifrey, he dropped out of the sky, through a portal, from god knows where. We don’t know where he’s from? How many lives he’s had, even what species he really is? This has literally made him/her even more mysterious and opened up even more questions. I don’t see how it’s done the opposite?
Timeless child should have been the master. That would explain his mad rage against the Time Lords and how he keeps surviving when he should be dead so many times.
They could've retconned the 1996 movie and said that weird worm thing was actually the Master's species' true form, the one that regeneration was stolen from by the Time Lords. 🤷♂️
@@Polavianus I remember a one shot outing for the 8th Doctor Paul McGann where the Master attempted to steal the Dr's regenerations, but I'm willing to forgive a retcon that make the Master the Timeless Child, having infinite regens robs the audience of investment, there's no peril or suspense because the Dr is now immortal.
I feel like ive been kicked straight in the balls for enjoying doctor who up to season 10 like i wasnt supposed to enjoy the lore and story the past 50 years have given us but i guess i am just a bigot
It feels like we've been punished for enjoying the earlier series too much. Not content with simply writing bad Doctor Who Chibnall appears to want to wreck the legacy of what came before him out of spite.
Join the club. On the bright side, there are plenty of women who are apparently also self hating sexists for daring to love cannon. I love being told having standards for writing is evidence that I hate myself
The bear comparison is so perfect. I WANT MY TEDDY BACK. I liked Hartnell to Capaldi, i mean ups and downs are normal in 50+ years, but overall a comfy watch experience. I absolutely hate Whittakers take on the doctor, imho it is weird fanfic, not cannon.
Don't, they will just mock you for wanting your teddy bear. Because that's weak and shameful. You are supposed to be vulnerable and weak, unless it's in a way that opposes the Progress, in which case they will gladly pile on and bully you worse than any 13 year old boys ever did and tell you to "be a man". Which means accepting everything they cram down your throat and totally cutting the past out (except the parts they want to lecture you about, those can't be forgotten for a moment but but never ever be mentioned unless it's them using them as a bludgeon on you. At any other time it's just far to painful to ever talk talk about and they wish people would stop constantly referring to the past and not allowing them to heal their trauma, etc, etc, etc).
They're mindless, genocidal and obsessed with destroying creativity and individualism. Yeah, they're guys. I'm amazed that we don't call them Cyber-Bros.
@@ericgrace9995 now that you mention it, I'm surprised they're "handles" weren't orange. Maybe we misjudged Chbnall. (Cut to scene of The Master revealing the Cyber Time Lords) then again....
"The Timeless Children" is the Master screwing with the Doctor's head. If _Doctor Who_ ever has a competent showrunner again, that's the retcon they're using.
Russel T Davis is coming back. He brought the show back from the dead and was the show runner for seasons 1 to 4. Hopefully he can bring the show back from the dead again
@@hamzaayaz7482 I imagine RTD will probably work it into a future story, make it something related to the Master, whether a failed attempt to drive the Doctor mad, or the Master simply getting it mixed up and finding out that *he* is actually the Timeless Child. Either way, I can't imagine that RTD is just going to let this slide.
9:52 I miss when the Cybermen were actually threatening villains. They used to be genuinely intimidating and menacing creatures, with just one being a genuine threat for an entire squadron of UNIT soldiers. They were excellent antagonists for the second, fifth, and tenth doctors, always finding a way to survive even in the unlikeliest of situations and in the most unique of ways. Even against Capaldi they still had an air of intimidation, a fierceness not easily matched. But they were absolutely ruined here, and it makes me genuinely sad. They used to be my favorite Dr. Who bad guys, now they just kinda suck
Wait but they already told us how the time lords came about. They were changed and evolved the ability to regenerate as a results of repeated exposure to the time vortex through a window into all of time and space that was on their planet. It is the same explanation for why River Song has human parents but has elements of time lord in her DNA. Because when her mother Amy was pregnant with her she was also a companion to the Doctor. River Song was exposed to the space and time continuum while her mother traveled in the Tardis. Even the Masters origins where tied to this. The Master went mad when the Time Lords forced him to look into the Time Vortex when he was a child. This is canon. Chibnall is just rewriting Doctor Who lore. At this point it’s no longer Doctor Who and I refuse to acknowledge these seasons as part of the Doctors timeline.
I think a bigger lore problem, if the doctor had more faces, why didnt we see them when Clara jumped into his time stream, or why didnt they help to freeze Galifrey into a portrait. And limited regenerations was something to give stakes to Doctor Who, he wasnt immortal, this gives the doctor infinite of those... How do you kill that, why fight that... How could the Daleks ever be close to win the time war, if their enemies are immortals.
Clara is spread across the Doctor's entire timeline. The fact that Clara has not appeared to 13 proves that she is not actually a part of that timeline. Also, Clara would've been there with the timeless child and she never would've put up with the bullshit of literally murdering a child dozens of not hundreds of times.
"Guess who the child is" I figured the Master on the assumption that being killed a bajillion times in a short span would probably drive you crazy, but I guess that's giving the writers too much credit.
On a more positive note, I have to say this incarnation of The Master is pretty good in my opinion. Sacha Dhawan is rather talented in portraying someone completely deranged. I think it fits.
I stopped watching the show back when the 12th Doctor ended. But watching this video it's so shit now.. can someone explain to me why the child/Doctor can heal infinitely? And why the Galifrayans are suddenly portrayed as one of the worst species out there
@@justus4883 galifrey is portrayed as horrible for the same reason people tear down and criticise the west. The idea of a culturally superior society is dangerous.
Of course they destroyed the mystery of the character, they're pandering to a crowd that has the need to tell everyone about what they feel even when they go to the bathroom... What a sad state of affairs, really. When I was a kid I was a big fan of an 80's tv series that I supported economically and I'm still very fond of, but recently it has suffered retcons and remakes that include gender and personality changes to the point of being unrecognizable, just to seek for the approval of people who never liked or invested anything in it. And they say we are the entitled ones. The reach...
heroesytumbas I think you nailed it. The SJW target audience are dullards without the imagination, or wit, to even understand they are supposed to be intrigued by a mystery. To them it is a plot hole needing to be filled with social justice tropes
It's the same crowd that shits out reviews about movies calling every unanswered question a "plot hole" Drinker is really the only decent reviewer left standing.
@@thelastmotel Why does it matter if 1 companion was really important? It's not like she was made a god or something, it's literally just a parallel to The Doctor, going on space adventures, and eventually they will both return to Gallifrey, the long way 'round.
As has the significance of the friendship of the Doctor and the Master who were both at the Academy as little boys aged 8. That scene in “The Last of the Time Lords” where he (David Tennant) holds the Master and forgives him is the best episode ever. Totally emotional but still classy and real.
Impossible OWSALD...Derived from the Old English elements os "god" and weald "power, ruler".OSWALD was killed by jack ruby who gave odis burkett a wallet that came to charlie burkett,doctor who aired november 23 a day after JFK INCIDENTJenna ColemanfriendedCharlieBurkett oklahoma oklahoma is said 3 times in the 2005 reboot of Doctor who.The doctor is a promise...promise in hebrew is savah.The 7th doctor (sylvester mccoy)came to OKLAHOMA told charlie burkett who was born september 8th 1985 the year there was a hiatus ...in september 7th 1987 sylvester mccoy becomes the doctor(a day before september 8th my birthdate).Charlie Burkett asked god on easter if he could become doctor who and god answered with a meteor,charlie went insane and thought himself jesus and was committed and lost faith.Charlie saw on EASTER 2021 a meteor in sky.13....the 13th doctor According to the Bible, number 13 can be seen as a number of rebellion. Actually, the first appearance of this number in the Bible is associated with rebellion and we can see it in Genesis 14:4. It is said in the Bible that number 13 is a symbol of all governments that a man has created and that Satan has inspired....charlie burkett MUST become 14...The number 14 represents deliverance or salvation and is used twenty-two times in the Bible. The term "14th" is found 24 times in scriptures. The fourteenth day of the first month is the Passover, when God delivered the firstborn of Israel from death. Some 430 years earlier, on the night of the 14th day of the first month, God made two covenant promises to Abraham - one of the physical seed, Isaac, and his descendants, and one of the spiritual seed, Jesus Christ, and the sons of God who would come through Him, who would shine like the stars of heaven (Matthew 13:43). On the day portion of the 14th, God confirmed the promises with a special covenant sacrifice. "After these things the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision, saying, 'Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your exceedingly great reward.' But Abram said, 'Lord GOD, what will You give me, seeing I go childless, and the heir of my house is Eliezer of Damascus?' . . . "And behold, the word of the Lord came to him, saying, 'This one shall not be your heir, but one who will come from your own body shall be your heir.' Then He brought him outside and said, 'Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them.' And He said to him, 'So shall your descendants be'" (Genesis 15:1 - 2, 4 - 5, NKJV).
My mother was a fan of Doctor who since it first aired. When this episode aired I've never seen her throw food at the television before, that changed. The Doctor will ALWAYS be from Galifrey, and the Doctor will ALWAYS be a Timelord. End of discussion
Jay Exci made a 5-Hour-long Essay about this and its great, but the most funny thing, the cherry on top: People complained about it without watching it AND have the specific criticism it was too long... ???
I'm with your mom on this. Dr. Who was a big influence on a lot of young American viewers as well and had a rabid, if smaller, audience. None of us can have nice things anymore since the world's gone woke, and I'm not settling for the third-rate crap they serve up with little thought and no humor.
There are a lot of missing episodes from the "60's which were planned to be animated. Because of this Bullshit this practise has stopped, No funding see.
Yep, and never used to believe that 'PC' was anything more than a RW strawman. But there seems to be so much of this kinda heavy-handed Social Justice Warrior 'proselytizing' now, that it almost makes me wanna become a _conservative_ ('almost'...lol)!
@@matonmongo Come to the dark side. You'll soon discover all the bullshit you've heard about conservatism is nothing more than leftist lies. Leftism/Liberalism relies on the ignorance and blind following of the masses. Conservatism encourages individuality and making up your own mind.
@@j0doe1 It's called projecting and they do it constantly. They are the racists, sexists and bigots, so they have to call everyone else those things as a desperate means to avoid looking in the mirror.
As somone how has never watched Doctor Who, but has and still owns and sleeps with a plushie, that opening analogy makes me really understand the pain Doctor Who fans are going through.
it's a shame that Doctor Who had to come to an end, but at least it went out on a high note with Peter Capaldi. It is strange that this lazy fanfiction spin-off seems to be getting so much attention but oh well, it's not like it has any bearing on the existing canon.
"Let the past die, destroy it if you have too. It's the only way you can become what you were meant to be. A disabled trans diverse woman" -Kylo Ren, Star Wars the Last Jedi 2017
The Timeless Child was the biggest letdown since they undid the Masters self sacrifice in The End of Days or whatever it was called. They literally retconned ALL of time lord history.
This review is EPIC! And perfect! How did I just find it? Well done, well done Sir! I was laughing my arse off the whole time, especially during the initial analogy set up.
The thing that was special about the Doctor was that he *wasn't* special. He was a below-average timelord who went rogue. Edit: I would also like to point out that while having the Doctor able to regenerate endlessly gives DOCTOR WHO the possibility of endless seasons, it injures the story by making any self sacrifice nearly completely invalid as he is practically immortal.
@@sonnykingcomposer The regenerations given to him on Trenzalor are now all moot since it turns out he has an infinite number of them and always has. The "revelation" of The Timeless Child literally undermines all of Dr. Who.
@DoctorSauce 1. Fair enough. I used past tense when I should have used present tense. Not a big thing to throw a fit over. 2. Being the Timeless Child makes him the origin of regeneration, likely having infinite.
2006 me watching Age of Steel: Holy shit, the Cybermen are so horrifying and scary, trying to take other’s lives and transform them and mutilate them. Thats scary 2020: so its iron man
Remember when the cyber men were able to outsmart their enemies? Their entire premise is survival and intelligence and throughout the show they continue to survive through whatever means necessary and constantly outsmart everyone, including even the doctor at times. They also prove to be formidable opponents when fighting by using sabotage and, when there’s enough of them, an outright invasion. I will also admit that as the show calls for an easily defeated villain that the heroes can commit mass genocide against without people watching asking questions about the Doctor’s morality, the cyber men become the chosen villain. Like that one episode where an entire cyber fleet is destroyed by either captain Jack or Mickey, probably Jack because he’s invincible by that point.
A significant number of people reading this will have been reprimanded at work or fired for not doing their job properly. Why does the same standard NEVER apply to writers who don’t understand writing?
I think their logic is "Well this is failing. Are we doing something wrong?" "Nah, it's the audience that are just hateful bigots, or the production crew let us down".
The Drinker sounded genuinely sad and exhausted at the end . Ironically he has the one thing all the creators of new Doctor Who lack: A REAL passion for the content they make.
@@dvader518 No just no. You can't have hate without passion. You can't hate something unless you know you could love it. That was the entire message of series 8. If anything, Dr Who fans are more passionate than any other time. We want it fixed, Now.
@@dvader518 Why are the fans wrong? They are the ones who have loved the show for sixty years. They have been betrayed and rejected. There is a difference between despite and to spite. It's okay to do something despite what the fans want. It can provide a good result. It can be good even. Sometimes, it is the best option. But to do something to spite the audience, is never acceptable. With a normal show, if it gets bad enough reviews and low ratings, it will either be cancelled or sold. DW is a BBC show. They have funding no matter what the ratings or reviews are like as long as they keep the studio happy. Fans have no power to vote with their money or time. The only way to fight it is to be vocal.
So this implies that the Doctor has infinite regenerations despite having to be granted regenerations in Matt Smiths run, the doctor is now the original timelord which contradicts already established lore that says the Master and Doc grew up together, I want to deck Chibnall.
Now to be fair, the part about the Doctor and Master growing up together was addressed in the episode; the Doctor questions why she can remember them growing up and attending the academy together, to which the Master replies that those things DID still happen but just not in his/her first life. So when the "Division" cut him/her loose and erased all of his/her memories, they must've somehow forced him/her to regenerate back into a child's form (not all that far-fetched since Time Lords can regenerate between ages) who then grew up to become Hartnell.
I was done with chibnell when he made a "geneticly impoved" Dalek, that SOMEHOW was accepted by all Daleks as a scout... Yeah, the ultimate racists who kill everything thats not exactly lime them including themselves when realising they changed, have a 'better version' as a scout
The last time a genetically superior Dalek was made, it was 4 of them and they literally killed the Daleks that woke them up because they were inferior. It was during Matt Smiths run and it was his second third episode or somewhere around there.
I'm a woman and i'm always angry when i hear people argue that we don't like 13 because she's a woman and all their bullshit. We don't like 13 because she sucks, not because the Doctor change gender, we already saw an iconic personnage change gender in Doctor Who, The Master. We already have lived this rope and god, globaly, people love Missy. I love Missy. She's a great Master and have a nice evolution, the actress did a pretty good job. Why always shit on the fanbase and accuse them to be stupide human beings when the problem come from the work on the show, the retcon of 50 years of lore etc... Like i don't know, when the previous Hartnell "Doctor" come, how ? Didn't they know that the Doctor chose his name at the academy when he was studying here with the Master in his first incarnation ? How come a previous can be the Doctor when he didn't chose his name yet, when he didn't make any promises to himself ? I don't like this era because of shit like that, i don't care about SJW political agendas, or the gender of the actor/actress, his/her sexualité, i juste ask for an universe and a story coherent with itself. But it's ruined now. (I apologise for any mistakes make in my comment, English not my native tongue, have a nice day !)
Has anyone else ever noticed the irony that we are living in an age where the "Thank god it was just a dream." bad story line is LITERALLY the only way to repair so many franchises, and everyone would accept it just so we don't have to put up with this shit when once it was used to cheat a lazy and sloppy ending, and now it'll never be used because whilst the lazy and sloppy endings are laughable, the people writing them are too stupid to realize how lazy and sloppy they are and too proud to admit their works are abominations? That has to be the largest, most powerful example of poetic irony I've seen in my entire life. Anyways. R.I.P Dr Who. I never really watched the show but that doesn't mean I don't feel bad for the people who just had their favorite series destroyed. Of course they could always pull the old "It was just a dream" arc.......but they won't.
@@BlackTempleGaurdian Lols yeah unfortunately. Still, it's better than actually letting it NOT be a dream and in canon. I'd take a dream sequence waste of time over a literal sequential series of events.
You know, I'd like to see in some episode the new doctor (somewhere in the middle of the episode) run across the set where they filmed the tardis scene, while the actor and the crew are filming it.
@@doublem1354 Lols, the ol' "We're just a show" meta joke eh? I kind of love when shows or books acknowledge they're just a story. If done right like in Supernatural they can be quite entertaining.
@@Demogorgon47 I meant for this season's tardis shot. It would be 4th wall breaking, but it could de-legitamise the season if the doctor just ran across the set in the woods as this version(I honestly can't be bothered to remember her name) was being recorded. It wouldn't be a "thank god it was a dream", but something less used.
As a gay man, I'd be pretty offended if a gay male Doctor was written with as little substance as the Jodi Doc and her story arc. EDIT: To clarify, if the Doctor being gay was the most memorable thing about the story then you're doing it wrong.
Captain Jack Harkness. actually there seems to have been a strong desire to make a gay doctor. He was even called "gay" by Rose Tyler (in an insulting kind of way, which got a lot of bad feedback from viewers). The newer doctors often joked about how various historical figures were "great kisser" and other innuendo implying they had affairs with everybody... and Harkness was basically that. they call him "pansexual" and "bisexual" but he only ever talks about his male conquests and only ever seems to kiss and flirt with other men. at least they shunted the character into his own show, but occasionally there is a little bit of Cap'n Jack sprinkled onto the Doctor or one of his companions it seems... not sure about JW's version. then you could argue that the newer incarnations of the Master (and Missy) have some ambiguous sexuality going on...
"this will be my last Doctor Who Review" "go away now" Maybe it's good we all forget Ms. Dr woo ever happened. In a few years some gen alpha will come across an old reel and bring it back to life. But for now R.I.P Doctor, thank you for all the adventures.
Don't worry! at some point they will realize that making money is more important than people on social media defending you, and Doctor Who will regenerate into a shining new season!
For real. And not only do they revive him, but they also undo all of his character development as Missy. And to top it off, 13 isn’t even phased by how far he’s regressed. I know The Doctor didn’t see what happened between Missy and The Master, but damn. She couldn’t have expected he’d regress THAT much.
@@jacobhargiss3839 If Delgado hadn't died The Master would've been thrown away, it wouldn't have mattered. River was also almost thrown away after her last 11th Doctor appearance as Moffat wasn't sure what to do with her after that.
@@Z3R0Steam yeah, but river was a character exclusive to the new series. They could take her story anywhere and it would have fit. Discarding a character like the master would be like ditching the daleks or the cybermen, hes kind of a main staple of the show.
Star Trek at least has the Alternative License working for it. It will be very easy for future show runners to just discard everything Secret Hideout made, assuming CBS can every truly get away from it. Just say that was all an alternate Timeline, and get back to real Star Trek. Doctor Who and Star Wars are going to have a much harder time getting away from their cultural sabotage.
As a female who grew up in the 80s, obsessed with Dr.Who, Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel, and Tolkien, that *teddy bear* metaphor hit me hard. I had a bear named Buffy that I've had since I was 5 years old. Buffy went everywhere and did everything with me - even watched Dr.Who with me. He was with me through all of my significant life changes and events. Everytime my family moved, Buffy went with me. Once, we were 40 miles into a cross-country move from Wisconsin to California and I began freaking out because I had forgotten Buffy. My father turned around and went all the way back for him. I finally found him, laying in the mud in the backyard, soaked from the rain - he had somehow fallen out of the treehouse where I had left him the day before - my dad said he probably "jumped" out when he saw the moving van leaving without him and was trying to chase us🤗💗. For 33 years Buffy was the one familiar constant in my life. From basic training when I joined the Army, to travels around the world, through college, marriage, divorce, 2nd marriage, and babies. Even as an adult I had Buffy there, in my room ... except when my stuffed-animal- obsessed toddler daughter would sometimes drag him around the house. But even now he was patient, enduring her sticky hands and wet kises; lovingly looking after her the way he had looked after me. By now he had lost an eye, his nose, and a good portion of his stuffing through a hole in his neck. But he was there - always; a loyal reminder of the little girl inside me; a silent companion who asborded and stored every dream, every secret, ever tear, every stain of my childhood in his increasingly matted fur, and who would always remember what time and age will eventually take from me. Then one tragic day, while we were away on vacation in 2016, an over-enthusiastic housekeeper mistook him for junk and threw him away. 😢 💔💔 Ironically, it was the same year that the first "Disney" Star Wars film came out, symbolizing the death of the Star Wars legacy. Thanks to Critical Drinker, i realize how tragically prophetic the timing of those two events was. *R.I.P Buffy.* Miss you, buddy. 🐻 ❤️😞
Impossible OWSALD...Derived from the Old English elements os "god" and weald "power, ruler".OSWALD was killed by jack ruby who gave odis burkett a wallet that came to charlie burkett,doctor who aired november 23 a day after JFK INCIDENTJenna ColemanfriendedCharlieBurkett oklahoma oklahoma is said 3 times in the 2005 reboot of Doctor who.The doctor is a promise...promise in hebrew is savah.The 7th doctor (sylvester mccoy)came to OKLAHOMA told charlie burkett who was born september 8th 1985 the year there was a hiatus ...in september 7th 1987 sylvester mccoy becomes the doctor(a day before september 8th my birthdate).Charlie Burkett asked god on easter if he could become doctor who and god answered with a meteor,charlie went insane and thought himself jesus and was committed and lost faith.Charlie saw on EASTER 2021 a meteor in sky.13....the 13th doctor According to the Bible, number 13 can be seen as a number of rebellion. Actually, the first appearance of this number in the Bible is associated with rebellion and we can see it in Genesis 14:4. It is said in the Bible that number 13 is a symbol of all governments that a man has created and that Satan has inspired....charlie burkett MUST become 14...The number 14 represents deliverance or salvation and is used twenty-two times in the Bible. The term "14th" is found 24 times in scriptures. The fourteenth day of the first month is the Passover, when God delivered the firstborn of Israel from death. Some 430 years earlier, on the night of the 14th day of the first month, God made two covenant promises to Abraham - one of the physical seed, Isaac, and his descendants, and one of the spiritual seed, Jesus Christ, and the sons of God who would come through Him, who would shine like the stars of heaven (Matthew 13:43). On the day portion of the 14th, God confirmed the promises with a special covenant sacrifice. "After these things the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision, saying, 'Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your exceedingly great reward.' But Abram said, 'Lord GOD, what will You give me, seeing I go childless, and the heir of my house is Eliezer of Damascus?' . . . "And behold, the word of the Lord came to him, saying, 'This one shall not be your heir, but one who will come from your own body shall be your heir.' Then He brought him outside and said, 'Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them.' And He said to him, 'So shall your descendants be'" (Genesis 15:1 - 2, 4 - 5, NKJV).
If The Doctor was the timeless child all along; how'd the 11th, Clara, or The Great Intelligence not see his past lives before the 1st's when they went into his timestream in The Name of The Doctor?
Also why did the timelords need to grant him more regenerations when 11 was dying if he could regenerate anyway? Doctor who finished with capaldi and everything before him is the the true canon everything after is nothing but bs and in my head doesn't exist
@@connor9829 Agree with your second statement but after doing some research, apparently, the Timelords genetically altered the timeless child's dna to resemble that of a time lord hence only having 12 regenerations, and needing the extra lives granted to him.
I love that this channel is a place where we can tell how deeply something pains someone by the tone of his “go away now!” What a bizarre, yet welcome, concept
One thing I liked about Doctor Who was the sense that even The Doctor had a sense of mortality himself. He could die, it would just be longer than others. He was trying to do the most good before he died himself. This new doctor has completely ruined everything for me.
I think it's because to him, regeneration basically is death. He hates changing in every regeneration scene, he always goes "I'll be back, but it won't be me." Also Peter Capaldi's speech to the Master really hits home. ruclips.net/video/GOaVJufPqUU/видео.html
*That bear analogy was epically ON POINT. Also, this reminded me of the show "Scrubs". It never took itself TOO seriously and stayed it its lane for the most part making the fans happy. Season 8 showed a wonderful goodbye to the series and wrapped up everyone's story in a nice little bow. THEN WHILE ITS CORPSE WAS STILL WARM IT WAS DUG UP, REPLACED WITH CW-STYLE DOUCHEBAGS, CHANGED THE HOSPITAL TO A MEDICAL SCHOOL AND THE MAIN CHARACTER INTO AN UNFUNNY VERY UNCHARISMATIC WOMAN MEDICAL STUDENT. And wanna guess what happened to the show AFTER THAT? Immediately cancelled. Dr. Who fans, you can't change it from existing but you don't have to acknowledge its existence. Do what us Scrubs fans do: We pretend season 9 doesn't exist and NEVER watch it. Seasons 1 thru 8. THAT'S ALL.*
Okay, so I’m clearly too late on this topic, but for good reason: I distanced myself from DW a long time ago, because I saw the warning signs coming from far away. I believe the last time I actually watched a full episode was the finale of Capaldi’s first season. Personally, he wasn’t my kind of Doctor, but not a horrible one; what troubled me was the beginning of “the message” creeping through, taking modern events and trying to be relevant to them, so much so that the Doctor started speaking not like the Doctor, but like a direct self insert for the showrunners’/writers’ societal leanings. (Also they ruined Clara after 11 departed, but that’s a different tale.) I distinctly remember an episode where 12 more or less broke the fourth wall and gave an impression of “if you don’t agree with my progressivism, you’re a hopeless caveman and you can screw right off.” Because the socio-political climate was all-consuming at the time and my anxiety was pushing its limits, I decided to gracefully bow out and do better things with my life than watch one of my favorite shows devolve into soapbox programming. Now, several years later, seeing how ABSOLUTELY disrespectful the showrunners were to the original canon (which was admittedly crackers from the start, but still had some Thou Shalt Nots like TCD pointed out) makes me downright upset. I want to scream that this can’t be canon, but being a storyteller myself, I must admit that whoever’s in legal rights of the show gets to define “canon.” As much as I would have been content with the Doctor being a dude, I wasn’t upset at the gender bend. If they made the Doctor a POC, well, if I knew it weren’t a big corporate money scheme of “look, we’re diverse! buy our merch!” I would find it a strange shift but also wouldn’t fight it so much as privately disagree with it. But THIS! Oh my gosh, THIS. Making the Doctor the start of the Time Lords? Completely ignoring canon and all previously known boundaries, that’s awful, but doing so in a way that gives the Doctor even MORE of an angsty Mary Sue god-complex than he(/she) already has? Taking away the foundation of his relatively “normal” beginnings, cheapening the simple but effective narrative of him being a student, a father, an adventurer, then turned into an unwilling soldier and eventually calcifying into a scarred and self-righteous survivor who desires good but often justifies his means with the end- in order to “one-up” his backstory and make him The One and Only of the Time Lords? Forgetting that also means the female POC One and Only (yay corporate shilling and not genuine desires for new aesthetics!), I’m just mad that they overcomplicated a backstory so much that it was the last Jenga piece to topple the whole tower. Actually just… super gross, man. I’m glad I left the show when I did.
In my opinion, the Timeless Child idea could have been interesting, if they made it clear that the Doctor wasn’t the Timeless Child. It could have been use as a moral conundrum on whether or not the Doctor should choose to regenerate, knowing that the ability was taken from a child that they put through immoral experiments and tests to see how it’s regeneration functioned. But instead they decided that the Doctor wasn’t special enough as is, and they wanted to make them an actual immortal being, thereby removing literally any tension involving the number of regenerations the Doctor might have left, and also completely disregarding the 11th doctor’s regeneration.
If they also destroyed Gallifrey, it would have created a giant overarching plot on how many times the Doctor can regenerate before running out of regenerations. And maybe even an end to the show, hopefully.
What fucks with me is that the Doctor was special because of who he was as a person. He wasn't special because of his Tardis and regenerations, any Time Lord could have that. He wasn't special because of his knowledge or his age, again, any Time Lord could have that. No, he was special because of how kind he was and how, without any regulations and rules, he still never gave in to his power and always chosen to do good. This shit is just retarded. The Doctor doesn't need to be special.
The anger I feel from the Drinker asking "why were the Cybermen ever feared" is indicitive of the anger I feel from literally every part of this season
I don't think the Cybermen have ever had an effective treatment since modern Who came back in 2005. They usually depict them as mindless clunking robots who you can hear coming a mile off and who are easy to outsmart. Unlike the stealthy strategists they were sometimes portrayed as in the classic series who could be incredibly creepy and often scarier (In the context of this show) than your average Doctor Who foe.
@@CoffeeConnected indeed. If you want a good Cyberman story, watch their debut in The Tenth Planet, or any of their appearances in the Patrick Troughton era (except for The Wheel in Space).
I seem to remember an episode of Blue Peter way back in the 70s where a boy was asked how Doctor Who would end. The absurdity of his answer has lived with me all this time, he said ' the tardis runs out of petrol'. I wish it fucking had ended like that.
My take on the end of Doctor Who: At the conclusion of ‘The Time of the Doctor,’ the 11th Doctor mistakenly thought that the Time Lords were granting him a completely new regeneration cycle. They weren’t. They granted him *one more* life to enable him to complete his work on Trenzalore and defeat the Daleks. During ‘Twice Upon A Time,’ the 12th Doctor is struggling with the decision of whether to regenerate or to refuse, unaware that this was his final incarnation. Ultimately, this decision is taken out of his hands. As he regenerates, the artron energy dissipates into the heart of the TARDIS. The Doctor has passed away. The TARDIS travels on and reconstitutes the Doctor’s personality and memories to create the being known in ‘The Day of the Doctor’ as ‘The Curator,’ an artificially generated being that is able to shape itself into different forms of the Doctor’s past faces (ie an older fourth doctor, maybe a younger first doctor, younger seventh doctor, older ninth doctor etc). It remains as a monument to the Doctor’s history and ensures that his work lives on.
"Professional Writers" lmao Chin balls cries himself to sleep. I'm glad they settled the debate on who can kill children without being a monster, strong female child murderer.
At 1.5 - 3 billion human lives lost to women who murder their own, Hitler bows down before the awesome blood lust of women. In the last six thousand years of wars waged by me, the death toll is only 750 million. Women took four times that many lives in just forty years! Men would have to wage a war that took the lives of almost half the population of the entire world just to catch up with the slaughterhouse women have built in just four decades. Women call men monsters but ain't any guys I know of that think that kind of slaughter is cool. And what "health" reasons are they giving for all that blood and human life? Well, one girl did it because she wanted to make sure she could fit into her Prom dress. Yep, she took a human life so that she could look good. Now, when was the last time you heard about a guy who killed his barber for a bad hair cut before a big date? No one? Neither have I. I wouldn't wonder why the left is insane. It's packed with mass murderers who think that taking a human life is just fine before a big night out with the girls so she doesn't look fat. If you can justify that kind of sick devaluation of human life, you can justify just about anything. Men at least go to jail for taking a life. These women are the people trying to shame you for not dating them. Uhhhh... they may be free to choose but the term "damaged goods" doesn't quite cover a woman who has taken several human lives for her job, her looks, and her personal convenience. No man I know is climbing corporate ladders by pure killing. Lies and double-dealing, sure. Tearing humans limb from limb literally? Not one that I am aware of except Kim Jung Un of North Korea and we all know what a sick puppy that fellow is. Bottom line, women have done this to themselves. If you're a guy, the only good wife left is likely one who goes to an orthodox Christian Church. The rest are riding the rod-rollercoaster, taking human lives like men go shopping for jeans and basically turning themselves into the sickest human beings who ever lived. Men should wake up. Women are so much worse than men ever dreamed of being. Not even the worst men who ever lived in all of history have done what modern women do. Have some pride, guys. Not even our worst day looks like these ladies' best day. They are loony for a reason. They just don't want you catching on to who and what they really are. So, wakey, wakey, fellas. We aren't the bad guys anymore. Women are the most beautiful monsters you will ever meet. Stay well away or they will trash your life and your future faster than you can say, "false abuse". Thank your Republican and Democrat parties for their non-partisan support for planned parenthood and feminism. Because who wouldn't want to date a lying, murdering, crazy woman and have their life ruined by them?
Remember when that whole "It was all just a dream" excuse was introduced into early TV shows, like Dallas and St Elsewhere, as a lazy script writers attempt to bring back killed off characters or undo bad decisions written into the plot episodes earlier and it outraged fans so much that it has now been considered a big no no for any TV series since then? How refreshing and widely accepted would that method be in retconing the Chibnel seasons out of the series lore? Just tack on the excuse of aliens, or the master using alien tech to mess with the Doctors dreams for...........reasons and I'll be up for it. It's the only way to undo all the damage that's been done so far.
Just imagine. What does the doctor see when he closes his eyes? He's hallucinated, been confused after regenerations, passed out into a multi day long comma, had so many people's thoughts put into his head, and has lived so long. 9th doctor made it clear early on that he can feel time all over the universe, and can come up with complex hypothetical situations on a whim. So stick with me on this. For the first time, we see The doctor wake up from sleeping off his latest regeneration as Peter Capaldi. Our new introduction to The Doctor... Hugh Laurie. The last Doctor was all in his head, and he shudders at one of the many nightmare that he has when he does sleep. (It's like 4 hours max every 3 days.) and so we start an entire new era of Doctor, with an old man Capaldi, and so on down the line they will become younger as it was with the previous 12 (excluding War doc because stress is a bitch.) Just immagine House M.D.s witt on a cosmic level.
@@thebanditman5663 I never considered Hugh Laurie but he sounds like a pretty good suggestion. I always thought Richard E. Grant should take up the role. He did a good job as the voice actor for a Dr Who animated short film, Scream of the Shalka. He should give live action a go too.
I've seen people talking about this in regards to Marvel Comics, how pretty much everything since 2014 could be explained away as Loki having got a hold of the Cosmic Cube, and has just been screwing around with the universe for years on end for his own amusement.
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The Cybermen are favorites of mine because they are, more or less, an army of the Undead. Such a thing cannot be stopped, as you will never have enough bullets, and they can replace their losses by using yours as fresh stock. Fuck the daleks. Cybermen are perfection, as they cannot feel anything. No more torment, be it physical or mental, and immunity to fear. That is perfection, and they wouldn't have to make my upgrade mandatory, I'd volunteer.
1300 ups and 3 downs. Awesome rant!
The Critical Drinker lol you sonned Bradley Walsh
Gotta give it to you... the last season of DW was bad... that being said maybe the next doctor will be at least sightly better (which should not be that hard)
also maybe they can do another universe reset just to erase this from canon
I am so sorry doctor who fans. From a Star Wars fan; may our worlds rise again someday.
world war free star wars and doctor who
I'm sorry, from Trekkers
Tachibana Kei lol that’s the spirit
jobustify I’m sorry to trekkers too. Dear god what have they done to sci fi?
Ki Swore Amen bro! Amen! 🍻🍺🍻
And they keep saying “you have no culture” while simultaneously destroying every part of it they can find.
Only enemies, implacable foes who intend genocide do that.
@@ahmataevo and they do.
Oh do they relish the day that they get to.
White people seem hell bent on destroying all their own accomplishments, all in the name of some falsely placed guilt that borders on fetishizing. It's really disturbing and sad.
@@bakihanma7233 leftist!
It is their intent (marxists) to destroy culture ... to hear this reaction against the franchise is the feedback they want to hear
Its hilarious that Antiques Roadshow had higher ratings than the season finale of Doctor Who.
Boomers outnumber SJWs. They should fight to the death.
Because the chances of finding Doctor Who on Antiques Roadshow is far greater.
@@roscojenkins7451 SJWs wouldn't last long haha.
At least you know what you are in for when watching antiques roadshow
The Antiques Roadshow has never once let me down.
"You are the random chosen one."
That sounds stupid. The Doctor being just a regular Time Lord who decided to go rogue and abuse his powers for the better of others is unique and ultimately interesting. It makes him unpredictable, grants an air of mystery, and makes him relatable; because he's not special because of what he is, but because of his character. The Doctor sets his own course.
This fate bullshit where the "Doctor" is a special Being who is the source of the Time Lords is below fanfiction quality writing. You'll notice how this did nothing to the Doctor's character. It just makes her "THE SPECIAL" at the expense of well crafted lore.
Unlike the War Doctor, who shook up everything we knew about him, caused conflict, and ultimately improved our fundamental understanding of his overall character.
This new retcon is a waste of time and demoted the character overall.
The Doctor being a well meaning renegade Time Lord is made even more impactful when you realise that most of the other renegade Time Lords aren‘t well meaning. They do what they do because they‘re driven by destruction, because they want space to conduct immoral scientific experiments, because they want to irreparably play with history to make it conform to their idea of perfection, because they want to watch living beings from different species and times fight one another. Not because they just want to escape monotony and see the sights with their granddaughter, or nudge people in the right direction, or help the impoverished and enslaved win their battles for freedom and save people, by, occasionally, sacrificing himself. The Doctor is unique not because of his birth but unique because of how different he is to other Time Lords. He doesn‘t view other species as ants who may or may not get squashed as he walks but as beautiful and complex and worth his hearts and lives. That‘s why he‘s so incredibly special, because he‘s from a race who are like gods unto everybody else but has sympathy and empathy and compassion and puts those feelings to good use, not because he was born special
Gonna need you to print out this comment and send it to those writers at BBC labeled, "a Guideline to the Doctor."
exactly and i loved with the 11th doctor we see that when he works hard to save races, he will always end up killing or erasing another and the episode that dives into that is one of my favorites, seeing such a complicated subject looked at because the doctor thought he was doing good and justice. hes not necessarily wrong like they accuse him of being in the star beast but they offer different perspectives on the subject and let the viewer know that there isn’t a right answer. in doctor who ive always seen most episodes as able to be taken as ‘there isnt always a right answer’
I agree but personally I don't feel like the War Doctor really helped. It's an interesting idea but he's supposed to be the mysterious/forgotten incarnation though I think he may have had more if not equal screen time as 8 who really should've been the War Doctor after Eccleston decided not to return instead of making the numbering messy. I also feel like it wasn't really a good/fair bridge between 8 and 9. If anything, it seriously creates a further rift between classic and new who for me. Plus the thought of the Doctor drinking from a cup to become a warrior feels a bit pointless considering any other Time Lord could've done the same thing. In fact RTD's original intention was to have 8 be the War Doctor.
However, I do seem to seen to be in the minority who thinks McGann should've just been the War Doctor as the War Doctor was of course very well recieved 😖
Yep
Let's just have the doctor wake up as capaldi again, and him say "woah, that was one hell of a nightmare" and he gets back on with his adventures
"Pam Ewing" the entire last two seasons of the show? I can deal with that.
Brilliant! There actually is a Doctor Who villain who gets in the Doctor’s head and messes with reality. The Dream Lord as played by Toby Jones. All the crap since Capaldi left could be wiped out of existence.
@@MyLateralThawts ooh that would be such an awesome return of a super powerful villian, I'd love to learn more about the dream lord
i would actually be fine with this
or matt smith, he wasnt rarely blaming men exclusively like that one capaldi moment as hobo who
I'm a Whovian, a Trekkie, and a Star Wars fan. It feels like I've been kicked in the balls continuously for three years.
This should be the *best* time to be a geek, but the ones ruling the roost have henpecked away all the wonder, creativity, and compelling characters that made us fall in love with all these movies and shows in the first place. Even 7 or 8/10 of the games coming out now suck right out the gate when tech is only going up like what the absolute hell is going on
Yep it sucks. I hate my life now.
Condolences brother, i know exactly how you feel..
Jason Remington I’m deeply sorry. Being only a fan of Star Wars, it was quite easy to just quietly bury it in the backyard and move on with my life. If all of my favorite franchises were systemically taken down for seemingly no reason, I don’t know what I’d do.
Add 007 to that list, and Alien, Robocop, Die Hard, Predator and Rambo. Basically everything that was epic when we were kids is now shit.
Star Wars - DEAD
Doctor Who - DEAD
Star Trek - DEAD
Terminator - DEAD
And now that Disney owns Fox, you can add the Alien franchise to that list.
RIP
Why... Why don't they understand good story telling?!
@@oscarslagfoot The Alien franchise died with Resurrection.
It's a concerted effort to kill off conservative geek culture as it is problematic.
I remember being with my family, huddled around the TV, on the Christmas of 2010 and watching Doctor Who. We all cried when David Tennant regenerated and it laughed when Matt Smith appeared, we were so excited for Doctor Who to return after. I miss those days
BBC: the Doctor can regenerate an infinite amount of times
Fans: remember how the 11th Doctor needed to be given regeneration energy regenerate into 12th because he had exhausted his 12 regenerations?
BBC: yes, but no
Or did he?
NAH it'll be fine
BBC: No, because Wahmen!
The Time Lords covered their asses and gave fake regenerations so he didn't old himself to Peter Capaldi
At least them covering their asses would be consistent
@@redjirachi1 Meaning their goverment knew that they had to cover their asses, meaning the Doctor being Lord President TWICE should know, and his friend/companion Romana should know as she became Lord(/Lady?) President, funny how she didn't tell her friend about it.
Besides, Doctor was dying for old age for a LONG time by that point. If he could Regenerate, he would long before he would age to that point. Notice how Regeneration kicks in immediately when they gave it to him? That's how old he was! The 1st Doctor (William Hartnell, since now that title might be confusing) Regenerated due to old age when he was 400-ish years old, 12th was about 1100 years (meaning how long his incarnation had been running about, not his actual age).
So The Doctor regenerated into a bunch of different female and non-white forms then all of a sudden he just decides to go through a 13 streak run of white men?
That is hilarious
Lol I'm a minor Dr. Who can but I prefer the white male regenarations I think time lords should regenerate but stay the same race and gender
Antwuan Bacon Aye jus makes mare sense dunnit
He was in a less diverse mood I guess
He landed on Earth's western hemisphere. Yeah, he's gonna be a white male. I'm not liberal or feminist but that question is no problem at all.
William Hartnell was the First Doctor. There were no others before him. End of discussion.
BunBun299 Peter Capaldi was the last Doctor. There were no others after him. End of discussion.
@@andnowawordfromoursponsors4439 Amen.
@@andnowawordfromoursponsors4439 I have no counter argument.
I have said many times that I have no problem with a woman playing the Doctor, so long as they cast the right woman. Jodi was clearly the wrong woman for the roll.
My thought. Anything post Matt Smith is just a load of rubbish imo yes that includes Capaldi as well. Eccleston/Tennant was the golden age of the show, Smith was the dying embers that still entertained. Anything that came after isn't Doctor Who its just some drama uni grads trying to be entertaining/teachers/funny.
Thank you!
I'm a woman who has loved and watched nearly every episode of Dr Who since I was a kid. But the episode where the Doctor became a woman was the last one I ever watched. Not so much because he became a woman as that I knew this was the start of the corruption of my favorite franchise by "the message." I didn't have the heart to see it happen.
You are absolutely spot on. DR. WHO did not need fixing.. This Fake Imposter "Doctor" has no place in the Whoniverse...I never watched 1 episode..I already knew even from the pencil-thin Logo to the rags the character threw on it was going to be male-bashing anti-Brit trash rubbish...the True Evil was the Imposter bitchy "Doctor"...
I couldn't get through all the Capaldi episodes but a few were good but they lost me at the woman. I love strong women but the show lost something. Man, I miss getting so excited to watch the next episode with my family. So sad.
@@skival it's called Liberal nonsense..antiHero/antiBritish antiFun
@Captain McDog I wonder about this sometimes. Maybe it's part of human nature, but I think iconic male characters appeal equally to men and women, whereas iconic female characters generally appeal less to men. There are a few, like Ripley from Alien, who have wide appeal, but they tend to be less feminine.
As a consequence we have a long history in movies and TV where the vast majority of the greatest, most iconic and most loved characters are male. This fact totally angers the modern SJW crowd who now control a lot of entertainment production, and so we see many famous older male characters being deconstructed, nullified or even reinvented as women (as in the case of Doctor Who).
I could perhaps stomach some of this SJW nonsense in modern film and TV if only the stories were well written, consistent, thoughtful, mature and entertaining. But as the Critical Drinker hilariously points out they are usually anything but.
Fresh outlook.
I bet you wanted to be the companion. 💜
The more I think about this retcon the more infuriating it is. It’s so bad that I can’t believe Chibnall wrote this for any other reason than pure spite.
just treat it like it never happened. at the end of Peter capaldi's run he decided not to regenerate. if you look at it that way it's actually kind of beautiful. all of the things got wrapped up pretty beautifully. he recovered the time lords. the girl got to travel the universe and a tardis. he saved all those people and he even reconciled with the master . it's basically the perfect way to wrap up the show so if you just treat it like that was the end it works..
Wouldn't be surprised if he did write it out of spite for the old guard/fans. We have been throwing criticisms at him and BBC ever since episode 1 of series 11 and we amped it up after Arachnids in the UK. I feel like his thought process was similar to "I'm fed up of all these whiners complaining, so I'll do something so drastic it will force them to leave permanently so then I'm left with my own supportive fanbase", before releasing that he doesn't have one and he literally just got rid of all the viewers except those who want a good laugh, those too lazy to change the channel and those too bored to care.
he did it for self gratification mostly, people like them dont care about anything other then being seen to be doing good, its a mental illness, thou must do good and be shown to doing so.
They all do it out of spite. You are not fans to them, you're new recruits for the agenda and when you tell them what they're writing for is a fucking show and not their craptastic blog with a show theme they screech internally in rage and double down.
Even the most mediocre writer would of taken the cricitism in in some way and made an attempt after a certain point but that would meant to them that they have to accept the notion that their self image as bringers of moral enlightenment to the ignorant masses is wrong and people think for themselves and not there to fufill some fantasy of a gasping, applauding crowd.
@@mikekasich836 Capaldi's Doctor is still trapped in the confession dial
Remember in Star Trek TNG when Data said that television didn't last much past the turn of the 21 century....well I think it's the beginning of that ending.
I'm fairly certain that when it was written, the writers assumed people would be more into the PBS style of entertainment. They still watch plays and attend classical concerts, after all. They couldn't have thought the reason why people lost interest in TV was because the shows became patronizing, rehashed sludge.
The Eugenics war probably didn't help TV ratings.
But didn't you see Picard? Apparently, TV makes a comeback in the 24th century along with poverty and class warfare. It's almost like the writers are talentless hacks who are incapable of writing anything other than lame soap operas with forced conflict and pointless melodrama.
@@icemachine79 Also a bunch of human started drinking and smoking again and most humans returned to being bigots.
@@SmallFries01 I guess they forgot about synthehol and the entire plot of 'The Undiscovered Country'. Either that or the writers skipped those Memory Alpha entries during their "research".
In less than 5 years:
Doctor Who
Star Wars
Star Trek
That would be impressive if it wasn't so depressing.
Dont forget ghostbusters ocean 8 and james bond
Sorry m8
At least they haven't taken LotR... yet.
Don't worry they are going to make a live action gundam that's aimed at women. So they'll ruin EVERY sci-fi franchise.
You forgot Terminator: Dark Fart ?
@@skarknee6446 don't bury Ghostbusters yet... I have faith in Reitmans kid. He's our only hope.
Non-Whovians, please judge Dr. Who by its 50+ years of excellence rather than its few years of B.S. The show used to be so amazing. 😭 R.I.P., Dr. Who…I’ll always love you 😢
Epic comment.
Allot of filler 26 years lol
Still wanna watch it but not sure where to start, do I go back to the very beginning or start with David Tennant?
@@00ammy00watch the 9th to 12th
@00ammy00
You could go back to the very beginning (1963) or start with Series 1 (2005). Christopher Ecceleston is great as the Doctor. People should never skip him.
"It doesn't ruin the previous story, it *adds* to it"
-shills.
What the shills pretend they don't know, is that adding a giant, cancerous tumor to something, usually makes it worse.
By wrecking the whole story in the process.
That's what I should tell them after sending them a birthday cake which I've taken a shit in and reassuring them that it isn't ruined, I've just added a little something to it.
Denker Bosu yes it does and no it doesn't.
"It doesn't damage your body, it *adds* to it"
-cancer
That was the saddest “go away now” I’ve ever heard The Drinker utter.
I second you there.
I don’t know. That one seemed like he was trying to make it sound sad, with the violin music in the background. I just felt it in the way he said it for this video.
That's immediately what I thought. It's very exasperated.
The star wars rise of skywalker summing up almost had me welling up a bit
Well, guy is a writer, so one of the few iconic Brit TV shows being turned to crap to satisfy the egos of a bunch of third rate, no talent hacks may actually hit a bit close to home.
You know the worst part? That teddy bear metaphor works for pretty much every major franchise...
Hollywood killed of and destroyed the X Men in much the same fashion. Signing off from what used to be the United States, I don't know what we will be, but it won't be united.
The thing with Doctor Who: it never got a true reboot, so the universe with the First Doctor is the same universe with the Thirteenth, whereas Star Trek had Vulcan get destroyed for Abrams, and I think for STD and the others after, so it’s clearly a parallel reality. And in Marvel, not much that happens in the movies affects things that happened in the comics in the 60s. For Doctor Who, it’s particularly apt to have going back to the photo album as a way to show you can’t even enjoy the original now, because they say it’s a lie by canon. Like how River Song didn’t get her abilities the way we were told.
Impossible OWSALD...Derived from the Old English elements os "god" and weald "power, ruler".OSWALD was killed by jack ruby who gave odis burkett a wallet that came to charlie burkett,doctor who aired november 23 a day after JFK INCIDENTJenna ColemanfriendedCharlieBurkett oklahoma oklahoma is said 3 times in the 2005 reboot of Doctor who.The doctor is a promise...promise in hebrew is savah.The 7th doctor (sylvester mccoy)came to OKLAHOMA told charlie burkett who was born september 8th 1985 the year there was a hiatus ...in september 7th 1987 sylvester mccoy becomes the doctor(a day before september 8th my birthdate).Charlie Burkett asked god on easter if he could become doctor who and god answered with a meteor,charlie went insane and thought himself jesus and was committed and lost faith.Charlie saw on EASTER 2021 a meteor in sky.13....the 13th doctor According to the Bible, number 13 can be seen as a number of rebellion. Actually, the first appearance of this number in the Bible is associated with rebellion and we can see it in Genesis 14:4. It is said in the Bible that number 13 is a symbol of all governments that a man has created and that Satan has inspired....charlie burkett MUST become 14...The number 14 represents deliverance or salvation and is used twenty-two times in the Bible. The term "14th" is found 24 times in scriptures.
The fourteenth day of the first month is the Passover, when God delivered the firstborn of Israel from death. Some 430 years earlier, on the night of the 14th day of the first month, God made two covenant promises to Abraham - one of the physical seed, Isaac, and his descendants, and one of the spiritual seed, Jesus Christ, and the sons of God who would come through Him, who would shine like the stars of heaven (Matthew 13:43). On the day portion of the 14th, God confirmed the promises with a special covenant sacrifice.
"After these things the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision, saying, 'Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your exceedingly great reward.' But Abram said, 'Lord GOD, what will You give me, seeing I go childless, and the heir of my house is Eliezer of Damascus?' . . .
"And behold, the word of the Lord came to him, saying, 'This one shall not be your heir, but one who will come from your own body shall be your heir.' Then He brought him outside and said, 'Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them.' And He said to him, 'So shall your descendants be'" (Genesis 15:1 - 2, 4 - 5, NKJV).
It works for things outside of film. The question is, why do they choose to destroy all the teddy bears? What is the end goal?
I suddenly am terrified of light sabre wielding teddy bears
Funny how the BBC is making the Doctor have unlimited regenerations aside from the fact he had a limit to 12 and the Time Lords gifted him an extra full regeneration cycle (presumably 12 more.) If the Doctor had an unlimited amount of regenerations, the Time Lords didn't need to gift him more and River Song wouldn't have needed to give up her remaining regenerations in order to save him, either. Also, imagine if Capaldi's Doctor wakes up and the Timeless Children nonsense was all a nightmare created by the Dream Lord
They could of honestly of found a way around simply by saying "there are some uncommon cases of time lords were lucky enough to have 13 regenerations and even rarer cases where time lords have gone past 13 regenerations but they become volatile, their regeneration can turn planets into stars if left unchecked, so it was common practise to kill them during mid regeneration after the 12th cycle." There, reason why without making insanely special.
@@williamaldred335 That would've made way more sense especially with what happened in The Brain of Morbius during the Fourth Doctor's run.
The "go away now" at the end was so sad
Fancy seeing you here😂
I salute you
Was just gonna comment the same thing. The "go away now" sounded like "i need a hug, they took my teddy away" :(
Really struck the feelings for me there.
Seeing alteori in a comment section is like seeing keanu reaves on the public train, a nice surprise
"One more life won't kill anyone. Well... except me."
-Capaldi's Doctor during regeneration
How right he was on a meta level.
Moffat knew what was coming and was low key trying to warn us.
Devynn Hageman also why 13 should have been darker at the beginning, acting out of duty rather than interest.
The goddamn Tardis even threw her out when she regenerated so she clearly knew what was coming!!!
Some of us feel that Doctor Who died a while before Capaldi anyway.
@@Webbman76 tbh fuck Moffatt. He didn't try to warn anyone. He did the exact same thing to Dracula.
Nothing after capaldi was canon. He was finally laid to rest. No more screaming and more pain. He went into his tardis, laid down, and passed on peacefully in reflection of his former selves. He wakes in heaven, and is greeted by Clara, Amy, Rory, and all his companions that didnt make it. He is at peace. He's whole.
Don't forget Adric!
Better coment of all times mate.
;-;
@@holyrolypoly The Teddybear-Metaphor is beyond Epic.
It makes me sick though that some extreme People try to just randomly use our dislike of Wokeness to manipulate us now.
Randomly claiming the things you disagree with are Woke just to get us to dislike it happens now, even with Bills.
H-ck, i even saw the Misusage of the phrase Go woke, Go broke,
which means something that means ‚Stop politcizing everything, dammit’ has
now been Politicized.
Canon Sherlock Holmes 1800s fandome kingdome come.
Regarding the retconning, there's a silver lining in the old expression "two can play at that game." If the show ever gets a good showrunner who cares about the lore, all they have to do is start their new season with the Doctor imprisoned in some kind of Matrix style computer simulation and reveal that everything after Peter Capaldi (and maybe some of Peter Capaldi) was fake. A computer simulation to keep the Doctor occupied while the new bad guys do their thing in the real world. You could even have it so that everything that happened in the simulation was controlled by the bad guys to demoralise the Doctor and weaken his psyche. There, problem solved.
So extremus
Maybe the Doctor never left the confession dial, and everything after he "left" was just a hallucination?
@@All2Meme nah then they'd have to hire Peter Capaldi back somehow and then do the regeneration again or smth
@@alexanderneronov2348 Russell Davies is returning and while that is possibly decent, there can't possibly be enough to save the show at this point. Not enough at least. Some fans claim Davies went woke long before the mid 2010s began this stupid trend and therefore, dont expect him to have his mid 2000s quality
The people in charge will never allow this, all these shows being fucked is part of a plan to force a new "normal". Sadly this propaganda is going to be one of the main hills they chose to fight and die on.
The worst part is that if instead of the Doctor, the Timeless Child was the Master, and the explorer Rassilon, this story would have worked beautifully. It would have given The Master a reason to be mad, it would have explained why he keeps coming back when many of his deaths have seemed so final and it would explain why Rassilon has unlimited regenerations (he limited everyone else's amount in order to gain control).
YESSSS literally what i was thinking
Yeah, the Timeless Child kinda ruined Doctor Who for me, I always saw the Doctor as a zero to hero. He was a nobody, like really he was just another timelord. Till one day he just decided to do some shit and he became a legend. I thought that was really inspiring, from a commoner to a legend. But well he is now the "reencarnation or continuation" of a incredible being. Geez how fun.
Ps. Sorry for any mispelled english
It’s almost like Chibnall never watched it, cause it was all running down corridors and silly monsters, or something
Maybe it will turn out to be beautiful. Maybe the Master is lying on purpose, the Doctor is still the Doctor (well, kinda...), the Timeless Child is Romana (remember, she could regenerate on purpose into any form she wanted), and the Rani is disguising herself as that wanna-be FD (Fake-Doctor), working with the Master to confuse and torture the Doctor. And maybe they even remember that the Other (companion of Rassilon and Omega) was woven into the Doctor (was in a novel, but still better than the actual *censored*).
Yes, that would've been amazing AND it would've redeemed the stupid decision they made in bringing The Master Back during Capaldi's run.
As someone who grew up with 9 and 10, it’s genuinely horrible to see what has happened to the show. It was a honestly upsetting experience making the decision to stop tuning into new episodes
I was 4 years old when i first watcned dr who with the 4th tom baker and he was the best Dr by far...this show is finished there's no coming back for it they've killed it.
chris ecclestone was a cool cat
Rory Cox although I was only about 2 when he was Doctor, I’ll always remember the slitheen as being one of the first things I ever watched
I've been watching "Doctor Who" since I was a small child in the early '80s (on PBS out of Dallas, Texas) and I have refused to engage in this season or this show anymore. I had enough during the first season of her run.
Same, after years of quality seasons that entertain and challenge the audience, now we have this show that uses the name of Doctor Who to bring in viewers but completely disregards what came before it. It has no respect for the fans or the previous seasons. It was a sad time when I made the decision to stop watching but I no longer have to watch them ruin my childhood memories. It’s ironic how people complained that Steven Moffat’s stories were too convoluted but now we have this garbage and I find my self wishing for the good old days.
"Mean Spirited" is such a good way to describe it. Doctor Who, Star Wars, Star Trek. I'm not really a conspiracy person, but it feels like there is some shadowy Cabal at the center of all it. A group that doesn't seem to care at all about money, as long as the "agenda" gets forced down our throats.
It's kind of hard to ignore at this point
I think it’s a fact, not a conspiracy
A purposeful conspiracy would almost be the preferable option. But I think it's just plain old hubris and elitism with a dash of nepotism. You don't need a shadowy cabal calling the shots when everyone involved has already drunk the Kool-Aid and they exclude anyone who hasn't by demonizing them as various -ists and -isms based on a fundamentally flawed theory of human behavior.
Yeah, the cabal isn’t so shadowy. Most can be identified quickly by a blue check mark.
@@guitarguru.3572 Everyone was warned 80 years ago. Now the msm will only hire small souled idiots with gender degrees.
What annoys me is that Gallifrey is in a Time Lock, since they possess time travel they ensured no one could mess with their past. The Timeless Child annoys me because there’s no way to bring the Time Lords back. They’re gone now because apparently a race that held back the Daleks can all be killed by the Master on his own.
You'd think the Time Lords would have the Master under constant observation and be able to manage a lone sociopath.
As far as I’m concerned the Jodie era isn’t canon. The end.
Agreed, I’ve given up on current Doctor Who, everything has changed for the worse
Not the only franchise run by people that hate it, it applies to Terminator, ended at T2, with Star Wars nothing after episode 6 besides the Mandalorian, Star Trek Enterprise, at least we got the Orville carrying on the torch of hope and optimism that Star Trek represented.
Peter should of turned into the curator
I'm still waiting for Capaldi's Doctor to wake up from Last Christmas
Yeah it needs retconning... I tell myself the master has just made up all the timeless child. He’s punishing the doctor for being so shit
Why is it even called "doctor who" now? "who" implies a sense of mystery but when you cheaply sell that mystery out with one episode, what's the point??
i thought the doctor had limited regens anyway? how was they able to die so much in the first place if they was the child?
Doctor Her
now it's time to rename it into doctor when
when will this finally end, goddamnit?
Holy fuck that makes me sad
@@yankee1376 Doctor It
The more I’ve heard about the Chibnall era, the more glad I am that I walked away after Capaldi.
I really enjoy the Chibnall era
@@sonnykingcomposer That makes you one of the special 100.
I really enjoy the Chibnall error as well.
KIDNEYS!!!
@@tom6369 check my spelling.
3 years later and this still hurts, I genuinely don’t think I will ever get over what chibnall has done to my doctor 😢 x
And it still hasn't recovered.
@@sardonicspartan9343And it never will
The only hope i have is they split missy and the master into two separate characters that and the adopted mother of doctor was actually missy and was all a lie and missy planted fake memories of regenerations into her mind using the matrix therefore undoing this crap.
Time can re rewritten.
@@Nerdexoticthat’s actually a really good idea. if they do something like that, they could have the black female doctor who showed up( I don’t remember her name) be a future doctor who had some of her memories lost( I wouldn’t mind if she came back, she was better than Jodie in my opinion).
@@williamwebb1786 It would actually makes sense the master always lies to the doctor why not this? and these arent other doctors they are are other timelords.
Drinker, you impeccable specimen of refined style and wit. This has cemented you in my opinion as one of the best reviewers on the platform. Your ability to pinpoint the flaws of a particular work, and expound on them eloquently is truly remarkable. Thank you for the work that you do.
Chris Flad is it me, or did he straight up outdo himself on this one? One of his best to date, hands down I think.
His ability isn't just remarkable, it's *intoxicating* wink wink... 😉
And he isn't a shill like geeks and gamers
Sounds like this Chibnall feller is cut from the same cloth as Rian Johnson and the GoT dunces.
It was literally *subvert expectations.*
"Guys! The timelords stole regeneration from a minority alien gurl by killing her over and over again!"
@@denkerbosu3551 oh shit that is fucked up
@@denkerbosu3551 I thought that those women in red in the Paul McGann's mini-episode helped the Time Lords develop regeneration...
One difference: The GoT dunces were just incompetent and didn't know what they were doing. Chin-Balls is malicious and knows exactly what he is doing.
@@bf945 Same with kathleen K. I bet there's a story about a little spoiled brat that wasn't allowed near her brother's action figures and was forced to play with barbie and ken. Or the boys in school didn't let her play Leia, as she didn't understand the difference between a disney princess and Leia "omgsheissobadass" Organa, or somesuch.
Conniving little such-and-so is getting back at someone.. Of that I'm 1337% convinced..
The series lost over half of it’s viewers and BBC still has the nerve to push it.
Exterminate Exterminate Exterminate!!!
@@bryanneideffer3969 *EXTERMINAAATE!!*
New BBC Daleks.....
Re Educate, Re Educate, Re Educate.
@Tom Foley They don't take a loss, Doctor Who is funded by the taxpayers.
@@rindoubaka1574 Not for long, fingers crossed.
I vaguely remember watching this, but at the point where I saw the “Doctor” was a little girl that was essentially tortured by a mad scientist to “discover” the secret of regeneration I must of gone into shock as I don’t remember the rest of the story. I do remember subscribing to a streaming service so I could rewatch the better written and acted stories from the last 50+ years of Doctor Who so
I’m glad I found your review because I had just about convinced myself that this story didn’t exist and I had imagined it after eating and drinking excessively 🤪
You lucky soul, I watch this terrible series from the start, with hope that it would improve later but it didn't it just get worse, it just get WORSE!!!!!
That “go away now” was dejected instead of defiant. This was a sad farewell.
Jeffrey Schweitzer
Agreed! He sounds genuinely sad.
Seriously, you could feel his defeat at having to surrender a long treasured character and show. It how I felt when they rapidly used up all the remaining regenerations Matt Smith has left and just started giving endless regenerations. That move needlessly stole so much value from the character for me. That's when I walked as well.
I noticed that too.
We feel the same way he said it. I too grew up on Dr Who from a young age. Being in the US and watching Dr Who was a special kind for geek/nerd-ness. I loved watching that scifi, so different and unique. Now? Just fast food. Thankfully, I have my childhood memories of the real Dr Who.
that was the most sad ive ever felt watching the drinker. its like hes starting to give up. its doing him in.
"experimented on the child by killing the child repeatedly and studying the regeneration"..... Too bad this is the exact story of the creation of Doomsday from The Death of Superman back in 1992..
Writer "you think anyone will notice this is the origin of Doomsday, the guy who killed Superman?"
Producers" Nahhhhh it'll be fine...."
Wow, you are totally right!
wow! great catch!
Ironically as I look at this I see a suggestion that says: Injustice 2, superman kills branianc, like even the google suggestions, atleast on my end, seems to have picked up on this.
That's hack writers for you. They can't (more like won't) even try to make the stuff they're copying kind of different.
Kudos to you! I thought the exact same thing and searched the comments before posting. You are absolutely right. Total steal and hackery.
Doctor Who started with Hartnell and ended with Capaldi.
@@cfssuperhero I understand that.
The beginning of the end was Capaldi - he was great but that's when the scripts started to go haywire.
@@ecurb10 Agreed. He did his best but the writing was appalling.
It ended with Peter Davison for me
@@maettsook I liked him too. Sylvester McCoy was shafted though.
This still hits hard. The desecration of doctor who is unforgivable
Before: “Doctor Who”
After: “Doctor we know exactly Who but didn’t actually ask”
Doctor known
AK K ok but….the question Doctor Who? Could already be answered. A man from gallifrey. We now know he didn’t come from gallifrey, he dropped out of the sky, through a portal, from god knows where. We don’t know where he’s from? How many lives he’s had, even what species he really is? This has literally made him/her even more mysterious and opened up even more questions. I don’t see how it’s done the opposite?
@@obiwankenobi687 You can't see that because you can't tell good writing from a hemorrhoid.
So she isnt a timelord
That legendary race is now just a bunch of DNA thieves
Doctor is just random race
Troy Savary no you’re just wrong
Timeless child should have been the master. That would explain his mad rage against the Time Lords and how he keeps surviving when he should be dead so many times.
But that makes sense so wouldn't have happened. I used to love watching Dr who but I couldn't bear the jodi series.
Wasn't the Master run out of regeneration too and resorted to stealing bodies
They could've retconned the 1996 movie and said that weird worm thing was actually the Master's species' true form, the one that regeneration was stolen from by the Time Lords. 🤷♂️
@@Polavianus yes he did that during the 4th doctor
@@Polavianus I remember a one shot outing for the 8th Doctor Paul McGann where the Master attempted to steal the Dr's regenerations, but I'm willing to forgive a retcon that make the Master the Timeless Child, having infinite regens robs the audience of investment, there's no peril or suspense because the Dr is now immortal.
I feel like ive been kicked straight in the balls for enjoying doctor who up to season 10 like i wasnt supposed to enjoy the lore and story the past 50 years have given us but i guess i am just a bigot
It feels like we've been punished for enjoying the earlier series too much.
Not content with simply writing bad Doctor Who Chibnall appears to want to wreck the legacy of what came before him out of spite.
Join the club. On the bright side, there are plenty of women who are apparently also self hating sexists for daring to love cannon. I love being told having standards for writing is evidence that I hate myself
The bear comparison is so perfect.
I WANT MY TEDDY BACK.
I liked Hartnell to Capaldi, i mean ups and downs are normal in 50+ years, but overall a comfy watch experience.
I absolutely hate Whittakers take on the doctor, imho it is weird fanfic, not cannon.
Don't, they will just mock you for wanting your teddy bear. Because that's weak and shameful. You are supposed to be vulnerable and weak, unless it's in a way that opposes the Progress, in which case they will gladly pile on and bully you worse than any 13 year old boys ever did and tell you to "be a man". Which means accepting everything they cram down your throat and totally cutting the past out (except the parts they want to lecture you about, those can't be forgotten for a moment but but never ever be mentioned unless it's them using them as a bludgeon on you. At any other time it's just far to painful to ever talk talk about and they wish people would stop constantly referring to the past and not allowing them to heal their trauma, etc, etc, etc).
I'm amazed they're still called Cybermen and not Cyberpeople at this point
they are bad guys so its allowed
They're mindless, genocidal and obsessed with destroying creativity and individualism. Yeah, they're guys. I'm amazed that we don't call them Cyber-Bros.
Cybermagas !
@@ericgrace9995 now that you mention it, I'm surprised they're "handles" weren't orange. Maybe we misjudged Chbnall. (Cut to scene of The Master revealing the Cyber Time Lords) then again....
Cyberthey or them perhaps??
Poor Jodie. She's not even the first female Doctor impersonator anymore.
LMAO 🤣
Arabella Weir was the first one ;)
"The Timeless Children" is the Master screwing with the Doctor's head.
If _Doctor Who_ ever has a competent showrunner again, that's the retcon they're using.
Doctor Who is the most retconned show in history.
Russel T Davis is coming back. He brought the show back from the dead and was the show runner for seasons 1 to 4. Hopefully he can bring the show back from the dead again
@@anthonyduran6387 Perhaps......but the Timeless Child storyline needs to be debunked. It's a fucking travesty.
@@Felix-Sited Can't the studio just decanonize it if they want if there is enough demand or they have to alsways keep it due to some legal reason?
@@hamzaayaz7482 I imagine RTD will probably work it into a future story, make it something related to the Master, whether a failed attempt to drive the Doctor mad, or the Master simply getting it mixed up and finding out that *he* is actually the Timeless Child.
Either way, I can't imagine that RTD is just going to let this slide.
9:52 I miss when the Cybermen were actually threatening villains. They used to be genuinely intimidating and menacing creatures, with just one being a genuine threat for an entire squadron of UNIT soldiers. They were excellent antagonists for the second, fifth, and tenth doctors, always finding a way to survive even in the unlikeliest of situations and in the most unique of ways. Even against Capaldi they still had an air of intimidation, a fierceness not easily matched. But they were absolutely ruined here, and it makes me genuinely sad. They used to be my favorite Dr. Who bad guys, now they just kinda suck
I wish the new one had a better design
Wait but they already told us how the time lords came about. They were changed and evolved the ability to regenerate as a results of repeated exposure to the time vortex through a window into all of time and space that was on their planet. It is the same explanation for why River Song has human parents but has elements of time lord in her DNA. Because when her mother Amy was pregnant with her she was also a companion to the Doctor. River Song was exposed to the space and time continuum while her mother traveled in the Tardis. Even the Masters origins where tied to this. The Master went mad when the Time Lords forced him to look into the Time Vortex when he was a child. This is canon. Chibnall is just rewriting Doctor Who lore. At this point it’s no longer Doctor Who and I refuse to acknowledge these seasons as part of the Doctors timeline.
Absolutely!!! Way to go Sherlock 789!!!👍👍👍
@@TuriGamer What Lore? Eh im so sad that the doctor who is dead
I don't even acknowledge this doctor
I think a bigger lore problem, if the doctor had more faces, why didnt we see them when Clara jumped into his time stream, or why didnt they help to freeze Galifrey into a portrait. And limited regenerations was something to give stakes to Doctor Who, he wasnt immortal, this gives the doctor infinite of those... How do you kill that, why fight that... How could the Daleks ever be close to win the time war, if their enemies are immortals.
Clara is spread across the Doctor's entire timeline. The fact that Clara has not appeared to 13 proves that she is not actually a part of that timeline. Also, Clara would've been there with the timeless child and she never would've put up with the bullshit of literally murdering a child dozens of not hundreds of times.
"Guess who the child is"
I figured the Master on the assumption that being killed a bajillion times in a short span would probably drive you crazy, but I guess that's giving the writers too much credit.
Right? At least they didn’t retcon how the master went mad from viewing the time vortex...
On a more positive note, I have to say this incarnation of The Master is pretty good in my opinion. Sacha Dhawan is rather talented in portraying someone completely deranged. I think it fits.
The crickets made me think it was no one, and that particular plot element was just quietly dropped and never mentioned again.
I stopped watching the show back when the 12th Doctor ended. But watching this video it's so shit now.. can someone explain to me why the child/Doctor can heal infinitely? And why the Galifrayans are suddenly portrayed as one of the worst species out there
@@justus4883 galifrey is portrayed as horrible for the same reason people tear down and criticise the west. The idea of a culturally superior society is dangerous.
Of course they destroyed the mystery of the character, they're pandering to a crowd that has the need to tell everyone about what they feel even when they go to the bathroom... What a sad state of affairs, really. When I was a kid I was a big fan of an 80's tv series that I supported economically and I'm still very fond of, but recently it has suffered retcons and remakes that include gender and personality changes to the point of being unrecognizable, just to seek for the approval of people who never liked or invested anything in it. And they say we are the entitled ones. The reach...
heroesytumbas I think you nailed it. The SJW target audience are dullards without the imagination, or wit, to even understand they are supposed to be intrigued by a mystery. To them it is a plot hole needing to be filled with social justice tropes
It's the same crowd that shits out reviews about movies calling every unanswered question a "plot hole"
Drinker is really the only decent reviewer left standing.
Never really got into Dr who, but to all the fans out there, I'm sorry this happened to your franchise
Remember the Clara scene where she's under the bed of the doctor when he's a child?....well that's gone out of the window hasn't it! 🤦♂️
Good. They made Clara too important. It stopped being Dr Who, and became Clara and Her Genie
@@thelastmotel Still better than the entirety of the Jodie era
@@thelastmotel Why does it matter if 1 companion was really important? It's not like she was made a god or something, it's literally just a parallel to The Doctor, going on space adventures, and eventually they will both return to Gallifrey, the long way 'round.
As has the significance of the friendship of the Doctor and the Master who were both at the Academy as little boys aged 8. That scene in “The Last of the Time Lords” where he (David Tennant) holds the Master and forgives him is the best episode ever. Totally emotional but still classy and real.
Impossible OWSALD...Derived from the Old English elements os "god" and weald "power, ruler".OSWALD was killed by jack ruby who gave odis burkett a wallet that came to charlie burkett,doctor who aired november 23 a day after JFK INCIDENTJenna ColemanfriendedCharlieBurkett oklahoma oklahoma is said 3 times in the 2005 reboot of Doctor who.The doctor is a promise...promise in hebrew is savah.The 7th doctor (sylvester mccoy)came to OKLAHOMA told charlie burkett who was born september 8th 1985 the year there was a hiatus ...in september 7th 1987 sylvester mccoy becomes the doctor(a day before september 8th my birthdate).Charlie Burkett asked god on easter if he could become doctor who and god answered with a meteor,charlie went insane and thought himself jesus and was committed and lost faith.Charlie saw on EASTER 2021 a meteor in sky.13....the 13th doctor According to the Bible, number 13 can be seen as a number of rebellion. Actually, the first appearance of this number in the Bible is associated with rebellion and we can see it in Genesis 14:4. It is said in the Bible that number 13 is a symbol of all governments that a man has created and that Satan has inspired....charlie burkett MUST become 14...The number 14 represents deliverance or salvation and is used twenty-two times in the Bible. The term "14th" is found 24 times in scriptures.
The fourteenth day of the first month is the Passover, when God delivered the firstborn of Israel from death. Some 430 years earlier, on the night of the 14th day of the first month, God made two covenant promises to Abraham - one of the physical seed, Isaac, and his descendants, and one of the spiritual seed, Jesus Christ, and the sons of God who would come through Him, who would shine like the stars of heaven (Matthew 13:43). On the day portion of the 14th, God confirmed the promises with a special covenant sacrifice.
"After these things the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision, saying, 'Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your exceedingly great reward.' But Abram said, 'Lord GOD, what will You give me, seeing I go childless, and the heir of my house is Eliezer of Damascus?' . . .
"And behold, the word of the Lord came to him, saying, 'This one shall not be your heir, but one who will come from your own body shall be your heir.' Then He brought him outside and said, 'Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them.' And He said to him, 'So shall your descendants be'" (Genesis 15:1 - 2, 4 - 5, NKJV).
My mother was a fan of Doctor who since it first aired. When this episode aired I've never seen her throw food at the television before, that changed. The Doctor will ALWAYS be from Galifrey, and the Doctor will ALWAYS be a Timelord. End of discussion
Jay Exci made a 5-Hour-long Essay about this
and its great,
but the most funny thing, the cherry on top:
People complained about it without watching it AND
have the specific criticism it was too long...
???
I'm with your mom on this. Dr. Who was a big influence on a lot of young American viewers as well and had a rabid, if smaller, audience. None of us can have nice things anymore since the world's gone woke, and I'm not settling for the third-rate crap they serve up with little thought and no humor.
Well...except for that time when he was half-human on his mother's side.
@@iceez3142 That was retarded and everybody ignored it so it had to go.
There are a lot of missing episodes from the "60's which were planned to be animated. Because of this Bullshit this practise has stopped, No funding see.
This era has just been the death of so many beloved franchises and characters. It’s just so sickening.
Yep, and never used to believe that 'PC' was anything more than a RW strawman. But there seems to be so much of this kinda heavy-handed Social Justice Warrior 'proselytizing' now, that it almost makes me wanna become a _conservative_ ('almost'...lol)!
Liberalism is the anti-Christ basically, lol. Just kidding. Got to be careful because RUclips will accuse me of hate speech.
@@paulrobinson3213 i wouldnt go that far ... watch jp he explain thia new stupid calture better than anyone else
Welcome to the Brave New World.
@@matonmongo Come to the dark side. You'll soon discover all the bullshit you've heard about conservatism is nothing more than leftist lies. Leftism/Liberalism relies on the ignorance and blind following of the masses. Conservatism encourages individuality and making up your own mind.
It's obvious how much you cared about Doctor Who and how it's ended up. The sadness when you say "Go away now" is heartbreaking.
It just baffles me how many things have been ruined by bad writing recently.
Yeah I'm getting sick and tired of entitled people ruining good things and then saying we're the entitled ones.
@@j0doe1 It's called projecting and they do it constantly. They are the racists, sexists and bigots, so they have to call everyone else those things as a desperate means to avoid looking in the mirror.
Carl Johan They call people racists and sexists to hide the fact that they’re shit at their jobs.
I know right
It's not over and it's probably going to get worse until about 2025 when loads of production comapnies go broke
When critical reviews like this are infinitely more entertaining than the source content... FML
As somone how has never watched Doctor Who, but has and still owns and sleeps with a plushie, that opening analogy makes me really understand the pain Doctor Who fans are going through.
I want to "Like" you 5 times!!!
A real pain in the ass if you ask me after the "improvements"
Otto , du bist zu alt für ein Kuscheltier (außer es ist ein KuschelPanzer)
@@yorneustein7851 den må du længere ud på landet med.
It is truly how it feels. Heartbreaking
I love how you call “Doctor Karen” the “Doctor Impersonator.”
Nicely done. A perfect description of the show’s destruction.
it's a shame that Doctor Who had to come to an end, but at least it went out on a high note with Peter Capaldi.
It is strange that this lazy fanfiction spin-off seems to be getting so much attention but oh well, it's not like it has any bearing on the existing canon.
Yeah exactly. Thankfully the show ended before it could be ruined by Political cancerness.
Queue the return of Russell t Davies
You read my mind
@@jackorooney1469 Hopefully Russel can bring the show back from the dead. For the second time.
That's an insult to fanfiction.
"Let the past die, destroy it if you have too. It's the only way you can become what you were meant to be. A disabled trans diverse woman"
-Kylo Ren, Star Wars the Last Jedi 2017
That scene was so obvious it was like a 4th wall break. I looked at my wife in the theater and all I could say was "subtle".
A disabled trans diverse LESBIAN Woman! We wanna keep to the facts here!😏
"Let the past die, kill it if you have to. Unless you need to steal a story or characters from it."
Wow...seriously? That's what they did to Star Wars? I had no idea. Guess I didn't miss anything.
The Timeless Child was the biggest letdown since they undid the Masters self sacrifice in The End of Days or whatever it was called. They literally retconned ALL of time lord history.
The Master didn't self sacrifice. He was evil to the end. Missy self sacrificed and took The Master with her.
@@bwtv147 Missy is the Master, their point was Missy self-sacrificed, but called her The Master because more commonly used name
@@Neutral_Tired you and @bwtv147 are tits the guy is clearly on about the end of time episode, god damn filthy dr who casuals
@@richardtingler4798 go guc yourself
@@doomlands24k41 clearly a dr who casual as well then
This review is EPIC! And perfect! How did I just find it? Well done, well done Sir! I was laughing my arse off the whole time, especially during the initial analogy set up.
Season 14 starts with Capaldi's Doctor waking up in the Tardis after a gas leak
And/Or Dream Crabs/Dream Lord again
god I wish
The doctor can re/degenerate into a previous from, a la tom baker in the 50th anniversary. Give us Paul McGann.
@@hardywallace5606 Paul McGann as the doctor, James Goss as showrunner. Why can’t we have this???? :(((((
@Eric Miret it's unexplained but obvious that it is. 'just one of the old favourites, eh' he says.
The thing that was special about the Doctor was that he *wasn't* special. He was a below-average timelord who went rogue.
Edit: I would also like to point out that while having the Doctor able to regenerate endlessly gives DOCTOR WHO the possibility of endless seasons, it injures the story by making any self sacrifice nearly completely invalid as he is practically immortal.
Oh thank god. Someone gets it. please write the next series
1. He still is a rogue time lord
2. We don't know how many regenerations the dr was given on trenzalore
@@sonnykingcomposer The regenerations given to him on Trenzalor are now all moot since it turns out he has an infinite number of them and always has. The "revelation" of The Timeless Child literally undermines all of Dr. Who.
@@luxintenebris1776 when the dr was biologically reset, his regens were set to the standard 12
@DoctorSauce
1. Fair enough. I used past tense when I should have used present tense. Not a big thing to throw a fit over.
2. Being the Timeless Child makes him the origin of regeneration, likely having infinite.
2006 me watching Age of Steel: Holy shit, the Cybermen are so horrifying and scary, trying to take other’s lives and transform them and mutilate them. Thats scary
2020: so its iron man
Iron man if he was cannon fodder who couldn't do anything.
@@Superluigi881 basically comic iron man after 2016
Rajeev Roy As far as I'm concerned Tony Stark is dead. They said so themselves.
@@Superluigi881 the one in avengers series is the real deal for some reason lol. After all mephisto wouldn't want the soul of a copy
Remember when the cyber men were able to outsmart their enemies? Their entire premise is survival and intelligence and throughout the show they continue to survive through whatever means necessary and constantly outsmart everyone, including even the doctor at times. They also prove to be formidable opponents when fighting by using sabotage and, when there’s enough of them, an outright invasion.
I will also admit that as the show calls for an easily defeated villain that the heroes can commit mass genocide against without people watching asking questions about the Doctor’s morality, the cyber men become the chosen villain. Like that one episode where an entire cyber fleet is destroyed by either captain Jack or Mickey, probably Jack because he’s invincible by that point.
A significant number of people reading this will have been reprimanded at work or fired for not doing their job properly.
Why does the same standard NEVER apply to writers who don’t understand writing?
Something something *subjective* *art* or the best one *diversity*
I think their logic is "Well this is failing. Are we doing something wrong?"
"Nah, it's the audience that are just hateful bigots, or the production crew let us down".
Nepotism.
Because most editors are affluent white liberal women, they rule the writing world.
Because Dick-head Chin Balls is doing precisely the job he was hired to do by the BBC
The Drinker sounded genuinely sad and exhausted at the end . Ironically he has the one thing all the creators of new Doctor Who lack:
A REAL passion for the content they make.
that's not true.
He also has creativity, intelligence, and a sense of humor.
Incorrect. Fans stopped having passion the minute they started hating what they supposedly “love”.
@@dvader518 No just no. You can't have hate without passion. You can't hate something unless you know you could love it. That was the entire message of series 8. If anything, Dr Who fans are more passionate than any other time. We want it fixed, Now.
mason harris Why fix what isn’t broken?
The fanbase needs to be fixed, not the franchise.
@@dvader518 Why are the fans wrong? They are the ones who have loved the show for sixty years. They have been betrayed and rejected. There is a difference between despite and to spite. It's okay to do something despite what the fans want. It can provide a good result. It can be good even. Sometimes, it is the best option. But to do something to spite the audience, is never acceptable. With a normal show, if it gets bad enough reviews and low ratings, it will either be cancelled or sold. DW is a BBC show. They have funding no matter what the ratings or reviews are like as long as they keep the studio happy. Fans have no power to vote with their money or time. The only way to fight it is to be vocal.
So this implies that the Doctor has infinite regenerations despite having to be granted regenerations in Matt Smiths run, the doctor is now the original timelord which contradicts already established lore that says the Master and Doc grew up together, I want to deck Chibnall.
Unless... what if they stole all the regens? And doled them out to the other Lords? I don't know
@John Smith please?
@@cernstormrunner7263 go to your room and think about what you've said.
Now to be fair, the part about the Doctor and Master growing up together was addressed in the episode; the Doctor questions why she can remember them growing up and attending the academy together, to which the Master replies that those things DID still happen but just not in his/her first life.
So when the "Division" cut him/her loose and erased all of his/her memories, they must've somehow forced him/her to regenerate back into a child's form (not all that far-fetched since Time Lords can regenerate between ages) who then grew up to become Hartnell.
@@tobyduckworth8120 gay
That Teddybear metaphor was absolutely spot on that it hurts...
That "go away now" at the end sells how defeated The Drinker sounds.
He captured all our feelings about this show in those 3 words
It perfectly mirrors my sentiments on this show I used to love.
There was a war! And we lost....Everyone lost. And Gallifrey is no more....
Thanks Chris, you're a true genius.
@SpaghettiandSauce Why choose?
@SpaghettiandSauce I've a collection of the earlier NuWho and classic Who shows, so I am re-watching them now. They cannot take them away from me!
I was done with chibnell when he made a "geneticly impoved" Dalek, that SOMEHOW was accepted by all Daleks as a scout... Yeah, the ultimate racists who kill everything thats not exactly lime them including themselves when realising they changed, have a 'better version' as a scout
And the "better" version doesn't nuke all the others either
The last time a genetically superior Dalek was made, it was 4 of them and they literally killed the Daleks that woke them up because they were inferior. It was during Matt Smiths run and it was his second third episode or somewhere around there.
+Sherlock 789 *5. It’s from Victory of the Daleks.
I'm a woman and i'm always angry when i hear people argue that we don't like 13 because she's a woman and all their bullshit. We don't like 13 because she sucks, not because the Doctor change gender, we already saw an iconic personnage change gender in Doctor Who, The Master. We already have lived this rope and god, globaly, people love Missy. I love Missy. She's a great Master and have a nice evolution, the actress did a pretty good job.
Why always shit on the fanbase and accuse them to be stupide human beings when the problem come from the work on the show, the retcon of 50 years of lore etc... Like i don't know, when the previous Hartnell "Doctor" come, how ? Didn't they know that the Doctor chose his name at the academy when he was studying here with the Master in his first incarnation ? How come a previous can be the Doctor when he didn't chose his name yet, when he didn't make any promises to himself ? I don't like this era because of shit like that, i don't care about SJW political agendas, or the gender of the actor/actress, his/her sexualité, i juste ask for an universe and a story coherent with itself. But it's ruined now.
(I apologise for any mistakes make in my comment, English not my native tongue, have a nice day !)
Your English is very good. You're French I'm guessing?
Yeah Missy was dope.
They dump on the Fandom because they are so self absorbed and narcissistic they can not understand anyone not liking they're garbage woke fan fiction.
I think the best reason to appreciate this channel is the superb writing that goes into the monologue. Might have to get some of those novels...
Has anyone else ever noticed the irony that we are living in an age where the "Thank god it was just a dream." bad story line is LITERALLY the only way to repair so many franchises, and everyone would accept it just so we don't have to put up with this shit when once it was used to cheat a lazy and sloppy ending, and now it'll never be used because whilst the lazy and sloppy endings are laughable, the people writing them are too stupid to realize how lazy and sloppy they are and too proud to admit their works are abominations?
That has to be the largest, most powerful example of poetic irony I've seen in my entire life. Anyways. R.I.P Dr Who. I never really watched the show but that doesn't mean I don't feel bad for the people who just had their favorite series destroyed. Of course they could always pull the old "It was just a dream" arc.......but they won't.
The problem with "it was all just a dream" is it leaves the dream in canon .
@@BlackTempleGaurdian Lols yeah unfortunately. Still, it's better than actually letting it NOT be a dream and in canon. I'd take a dream sequence waste of time over a literal sequential series of events.
You know, I'd like to see in some episode the new doctor (somewhere in the middle of the episode) run across the set where they filmed the tardis scene, while the actor and the crew are filming it.
@@doublem1354 Lols, the ol' "We're just a show" meta joke eh? I kind of love when shows or books acknowledge they're just a story. If done right like in Supernatural they can be quite entertaining.
@@Demogorgon47 I meant for this season's tardis shot. It would be 4th wall breaking, but it could de-legitamise the season if the doctor just ran across the set in the woods as this version(I honestly can't be bothered to remember her name) was being recorded.
It wouldn't be a "thank god it was a dream", but something less used.
As a gay man, I'd be pretty offended if a gay male Doctor was written with as little substance as the Jodi Doc and her story arc.
EDIT: To clarify, if the Doctor being gay was the most memorable thing about the story then you're doing it wrong.
excellently worded
@1701gijoe wait... Bill was gay?
@1701gijoe nah, I'm just messing with you, it's a little joke a make everytime someone mentions Bill being gay, as if I never noticed
Captain Jack Harkness. actually there seems to have been a strong desire to make a gay doctor. He was even called "gay" by Rose Tyler (in an insulting kind of way, which got a lot of bad feedback from viewers). The newer doctors often joked about how various historical figures were "great kisser" and other innuendo implying they had affairs with everybody... and Harkness was basically that. they call him "pansexual" and "bisexual" but he only ever talks about his male conquests and only ever seems to kiss and flirt with other men. at least they shunted the character into his own show, but occasionally there is a little bit of Cap'n Jack sprinkled onto the Doctor or one of his companions it seems... not sure about JW's version. then you could argue that the newer incarnations of the Master (and Missy) have some ambiguous sexuality going on...
@meow Exactly! Being bi wasn't a defining characteristic of his character, it only changed his dialogue subtly.
"this will be my last Doctor Who Review" "go away now"
Maybe it's good we all forget Ms. Dr woo ever happened. In a few years some gen alpha will come across an old reel and bring it back to life. But for now R.I.P Doctor, thank you for all the adventures.
Don't worry! at some point they will realize that making money is more important than people on social media defending you, and Doctor Who will regenerate into a shining new season!
@@vallaby2042 AND JODIE WILL BE GONE
@@redhood5894 JEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌👏👏👏👏😄😄😄
Yes?
@@jessrodriguez7960 DISLEXIA!!!!!!!!
That teddybear analogy was oddly well worded and a good point
"what? No, I've met teddy and it has a bear head, not a dildohead"
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"Teddy's had an upgrade" {obnoxious sneerface}
Any fond memories have been ... Deleted...
Also reviving the Master was the biggest middle finger to Moffat.
For real. And not only do they revive him, but they also undo all of his character development as Missy. And to top it off, 13 isn’t even phased by how far he’s regressed. I know The Doctor didn’t see what happened between Missy and The Master, but damn. She couldn’t have expected he’d regress THAT much.
Chris Chibnal, Rian Johnson and Alex Kurtzman are evil
Eh, he had to come back eventually. You dont just throw a character like that away.
@@jacobhargiss3839 If Delgado hadn't died The Master would've been thrown away, it wouldn't have mattered. River was also almost thrown away after her last 11th Doctor appearance as Moffat wasn't sure what to do with her after that.
@@Z3R0Steam yeah, but river was a character exclusive to the new series. They could take her story anywhere and it would have fit. Discarding a character like the master would be like ditching the daleks or the cybermen, hes kind of a main staple of the show.
They didn't ruin Doctor Who -- they ruined a FAKE version of Doctor Who.
Same with Fake Star Trek.
And fake star wars
Star Trek at least has the Alternative License working for it. It will be very easy for future show runners to just discard everything Secret Hideout made, assuming CBS can every truly get away from it. Just say that was all an alternate Timeline, and get back to real Star Trek. Doctor Who and Star Wars are going to have a much harder time getting away from their cultural sabotage.
Yeah, it's all just really, really bad fan fiction.
Its like Ghostbusters 2016
It is fake and trash but it is Canon. It will be hard to fix any of this. It’s best to let it all burn down and start fresh.
As a female who grew up in the 80s, obsessed with Dr.Who, Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel, and Tolkien, that *teddy bear* metaphor hit me hard.
I had a bear named Buffy that I've had since I was 5 years old.
Buffy went everywhere and did everything with me - even watched Dr.Who with me.
He was with me through all of my significant life changes and events. Everytime my family moved, Buffy went with me.
Once, we were 40 miles into a cross-country move from Wisconsin to California and I began freaking out because I had forgotten Buffy.
My father turned around and went all the way back for him. I finally found him, laying in the mud in the backyard, soaked from the rain - he had somehow fallen out of the treehouse where I had left him the day before - my dad said he probably "jumped" out when he saw the moving van leaving without him and was trying to chase us🤗💗.
For 33 years Buffy was the one familiar constant in my life. From basic training when I joined the Army, to travels around the world, through college, marriage, divorce, 2nd marriage, and babies.
Even as an adult I had Buffy there, in my room ... except when my stuffed-animal- obsessed toddler daughter would sometimes drag him around the house. But even now he was patient, enduring her sticky hands and wet kises; lovingly looking after her the way he had looked after me.
By now he had lost an eye, his nose, and a good portion of his stuffing through a hole in his neck. But he was there - always; a loyal reminder of the little girl inside me; a silent companion who asborded and stored every dream, every secret, ever tear, every stain of my childhood in his increasingly matted fur, and who would always remember what time and age will eventually take from me.
Then one tragic day, while we were away on vacation in 2016, an over-enthusiastic housekeeper mistook him for junk and threw him away. 😢 💔💔
Ironically, it was the same year that the first "Disney" Star Wars film came out, symbolizing the death of the Star Wars legacy.
Thanks to Critical Drinker, i realize how tragically prophetic the timing of those two events was.
*R.I.P Buffy.*
Miss you, buddy. 🐻 ❤️😞
F for Buffy
Damn. It's a very sad story :(
Thank you for your share.
😢
"reTardis" got me good... Wasn't expecting that.
Impossible OWSALD...Derived from the Old English elements os "god" and weald "power, ruler".OSWALD was killed by jack ruby who gave odis burkett a wallet that came to charlie burkett,doctor who aired november 23 a day after JFK INCIDENTJenna ColemanfriendedCharlieBurkett oklahoma oklahoma is said 3 times in the 2005 reboot of Doctor who.The doctor is a promise...promise in hebrew is savah.The 7th doctor (sylvester mccoy)came to OKLAHOMA told charlie burkett who was born september 8th 1985 the year there was a hiatus ...in september 7th 1987 sylvester mccoy becomes the doctor(a day before september 8th my birthdate).Charlie Burkett asked god on easter if he could become doctor who and god answered with a meteor,charlie went insane and thought himself jesus and was committed and lost faith.Charlie saw on EASTER 2021 a meteor in sky.13....the 13th doctor According to the Bible, number 13 can be seen as a number of rebellion. Actually, the first appearance of this number in the Bible is associated with rebellion and we can see it in Genesis 14:4. It is said in the Bible that number 13 is a symbol of all governments that a man has created and that Satan has inspired....charlie burkett MUST become 14...The number 14 represents deliverance or salvation and is used twenty-two times in the Bible. The term "14th" is found 24 times in scriptures.
The fourteenth day of the first month is the Passover, when God delivered the firstborn of Israel from death. Some 430 years earlier, on the night of the 14th day of the first month, God made two covenant promises to Abraham - one of the physical seed, Isaac, and his descendants, and one of the spiritual seed, Jesus Christ, and the sons of God who would come through Him, who would shine like the stars of heaven (Matthew 13:43). On the day portion of the 14th, God confirmed the promises with a special covenant sacrifice.
"After these things the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision, saying, 'Do not be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your exceedingly great reward.' But Abram said, 'Lord GOD, what will You give me, seeing I go childless, and the heir of my house is Eliezer of Damascus?' . . .
"And behold, the word of the Lord came to him, saying, 'This one shall not be your heir, but one who will come from your own body shall be your heir.' Then He brought him outside and said, 'Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them.' And He said to him, 'So shall your descendants be'" (Genesis 15:1 - 2, 4 - 5, NKJV).
Wtf I literally read this comment RIGHT as he said that 😳
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@@lordprotector3367 lmao that’s amazing.
Yes I wasn’t expecting discriminatory anti-disabled language either.
If The Doctor was the timeless child all along; how'd the 11th, Clara, or The Great Intelligence not see his past lives before the 1st's when they went into his timestream in The Name of The Doctor?
That's what happens when the showrunner doesn't give a crap and has no respect for the shows legacy and has his head up his own arse.
Also why did the timelords need to grant him more regenerations when 11 was dying if he could regenerate anyway? Doctor who finished with capaldi and everything before him is the the true canon everything after is nothing but bs and in my head doesn't exist
@@connor9829 Agree with your second statement but after doing some research, apparently, the Timelords genetically altered the timeless child's dna to resemble that of a time lord hence only having 12 regenerations, and needing the extra lives granted to him.
@@ArthurTorrias Well, that sounds fucking contrived
@@ArthurTorrias Still doesn't explain 11 and Clara not being able to see the other lives before the 1st.
The drinker conveys more emotion in his sign off than Jodie Whittaker in a whole series of doctor who. R.I.P Doctor Who
That bear speech at the beginning had me laughing on the floor.
He gave us the sad "go away now". That's when you know he's really, really disappointed.
I love that this channel is a place where we can tell how deeply something pains someone by the tone of his “go away now!” What a bizarre, yet welcome, concept
One thing I liked about Doctor Who was the sense that even The Doctor had a sense of mortality himself. He could die, it would just be longer than others. He was trying to do the most good before he died himself. This new doctor has completely ruined everything for me.
Exactly. As he said to Clara, he's less breakable than humans (and other creatures), but NOT immortal.
I think it's because to him, regeneration basically is death. He hates changing in every regeneration scene, he always goes "I'll be back, but it won't be me."
Also Peter Capaldi's speech to the Master really hits home. ruclips.net/video/GOaVJufPqUU/видео.html
AsianOtakuGuy Still he’s technically immoral, the essence of who he is always stays the same.
I have seen none of them but from this info I am now glad that i haven't.
*That bear analogy was epically ON POINT. Also, this reminded me of the show "Scrubs". It never took itself TOO seriously and stayed it its lane for the most part making the fans happy. Season 8 showed a wonderful goodbye to the series and wrapped up everyone's story in a nice little bow. THEN WHILE ITS CORPSE WAS STILL WARM IT WAS DUG UP, REPLACED WITH CW-STYLE DOUCHEBAGS, CHANGED THE HOSPITAL TO A MEDICAL SCHOOL AND THE MAIN CHARACTER INTO AN UNFUNNY VERY UNCHARISMATIC WOMAN MEDICAL STUDENT. And wanna guess what happened to the show AFTER THAT? Immediately cancelled. Dr. Who fans, you can't change it from existing but you don't have to acknowledge its existence. Do what us Scrubs fans do: We pretend season 9 doesn't exist and NEVER watch it. Seasons 1 thru 8. THAT'S ALL.*
Wasn't Sacred Heart always a medical school/hospital?
@@jedidiahmetzger5057 Does that really matter?
That's a bold statement.
There is no season 9, I have no idea what you're talking about. It ended in 2008 and NEVER got a season 9.....
@Nyarlah Ha, nice.
Okay, so I’m clearly too late on this topic, but for good reason: I distanced myself from DW a long time ago, because I saw the warning signs coming from far away. I believe the last time I actually watched a full episode was the finale of Capaldi’s first season. Personally, he wasn’t my kind of Doctor, but not a horrible one; what troubled me was the beginning of “the message” creeping through, taking modern events and trying to be relevant to them, so much so that the Doctor started speaking not like the Doctor, but like a direct self insert for the showrunners’/writers’ societal leanings. (Also they ruined Clara after 11 departed, but that’s a different tale.) I distinctly remember an episode where 12 more or less broke the fourth wall and gave an impression of “if you don’t agree with my progressivism, you’re a hopeless caveman and you can screw right off.” Because the socio-political climate was all-consuming at the time and my anxiety was pushing its limits, I decided to gracefully bow out and do better things with my life than watch one of my favorite shows devolve into soapbox programming.
Now, several years later, seeing how ABSOLUTELY disrespectful the showrunners were to the original canon (which was admittedly crackers from the start, but still had some Thou Shalt Nots like TCD pointed out) makes me downright upset. I want to scream that this can’t be canon, but being a storyteller myself, I must admit that whoever’s in legal rights of the show gets to define “canon.” As much as I would have been content with the Doctor being a dude, I wasn’t upset at the gender bend. If they made the Doctor a POC, well, if I knew it weren’t a big corporate money scheme of “look, we’re diverse! buy our merch!” I would find it a strange shift but also wouldn’t fight it so much as privately disagree with it. But THIS! Oh my gosh, THIS. Making the Doctor the start of the Time Lords? Completely ignoring canon and all previously known boundaries, that’s awful, but doing so in a way that gives the Doctor even MORE of an angsty Mary Sue god-complex than he(/she) already has? Taking away the foundation of his relatively “normal” beginnings, cheapening the simple but effective narrative of him being a student, a father, an adventurer, then turned into an unwilling soldier and eventually calcifying into a scarred and self-righteous survivor who desires good but often justifies his means with the end- in order to “one-up” his backstory and make him The One and Only of the Time Lords? Forgetting that also means the female POC One and Only (yay corporate shilling and not genuine desires for new aesthetics!), I’m just mad that they overcomplicated a backstory so much that it was the last Jenga piece to topple the whole tower. Actually just… super gross, man. I’m glad I left the show when I did.
In my opinion, the Timeless Child idea could have been interesting, if they made it clear that the Doctor wasn’t the Timeless Child. It could have been use as a moral conundrum on whether or not the Doctor should choose to regenerate, knowing that the ability was taken from a child that they put through immoral experiments and tests to see how it’s regeneration functioned. But instead they decided that the Doctor wasn’t special enough as is, and they wanted to make them an actual immortal being, thereby removing literally any tension involving the number of regenerations the Doctor might have left, and also completely disregarding the 11th doctor’s regeneration.
If they also destroyed Gallifrey, it would have created a giant overarching plot on how many times the Doctor can regenerate before running out of regenerations. And maybe even an end to the show, hopefully.
The Master should have been the Timeless Child, would have worked far better.
What fucks with me is that the Doctor was special because of who he was as a person. He wasn't special because of his Tardis and regenerations, any Time Lord could have that. He wasn't special because of his knowledge or his age, again, any Time Lord could have that. No, he was special because of how kind he was and how, without any regulations and rules, he still never gave in to his power and always chosen to do good. This shit is just retarded. The Doctor doesn't need to be special.
Please send your application for show runner to bbc c/o Chris (woke) Chibbs
@@lucasoheyze4597 This may be the retcon
The anger I feel from the Drinker asking "why were the Cybermen ever feared" is indicitive of the anger I feel from literally every part of this season
Darlaks vs Cybermen was fun to watch.
I don't think the Cybermen have ever had an effective treatment since modern Who came back in 2005.
They usually depict them as mindless clunking robots who you can hear coming a mile off and who are easy to outsmart. Unlike the stealthy strategists they were sometimes portrayed as in the classic series who could be incredibly creepy and often scarier (In the context of this show) than your average Doctor Who foe.
@@CoffeeConnected indeed. If you want a good Cyberman story, watch their debut in The Tenth Planet, or any of their appearances in the Patrick Troughton era (except for The Wheel in Space).
"World Enough and Time" did make them properly creepy again but they couldn't really stick the landing in "The Doctor Falls"
The 8th Doctor Big Finish story "Sword of Orion" is a pretty damned good Cybermen story as well.
I seem to remember an episode of Blue Peter way back in the 70s where a boy was asked how Doctor Who would end. The absurdity of his answer has lived with me all this time, he said ' the tardis runs out of petrol'. I wish it fucking had ended like that.
My take on the end of Doctor Who:
At the conclusion of ‘The Time of the Doctor,’ the 11th Doctor mistakenly thought that the Time Lords were granting him a completely new regeneration cycle. They weren’t. They granted him *one more* life to enable him to complete his work on Trenzalore and defeat the Daleks.
During ‘Twice Upon A Time,’ the 12th Doctor is struggling with the decision of whether to regenerate or to refuse, unaware that this was his final incarnation. Ultimately, this decision is taken out of his hands. As he regenerates, the artron energy dissipates into the heart of the TARDIS. The Doctor has passed away. The TARDIS travels on and reconstitutes the Doctor’s personality and memories to create the being known in ‘The Day of the Doctor’ as ‘The Curator,’ an artificially generated being that is able to shape itself into different forms of the Doctor’s past faces (ie an older fourth doctor, maybe a younger first doctor, younger seventh doctor, older ninth doctor etc). It remains as a monument to the Doctor’s history and ensures that his work lives on.
This is brilliant. 🤩
How a single episode killed half a century of lore, character and series as a whole is really worthy of an applause
And then a gun shot to all of their heads
It was stunning and brave! 🌈🌈🌈
The Force Awakens destroyed the Star Wars PT and OT in two paragraphs of the opening crawl. That's also applause worthy
"Professional Writers" lmao Chin balls cries himself to sleep. I'm glad they settled the debate on who can kill children without being a monster, strong female child murderer.
Women have been getting praise for infanticide for decades. So stunning. So brave.
At 1.5 - 3 billion human lives lost to women who murder their own, Hitler bows down before the awesome blood lust of women. In the last six thousand years of wars waged by me, the death toll is only 750 million. Women took four times that many lives in just forty years! Men would have to wage a war that took the lives of almost half the population of the entire world just to catch up with the slaughterhouse women have built in just four decades. Women call men monsters but ain't any guys I know of that think that kind of slaughter is cool. And what "health" reasons are they giving for all that blood and human life? Well, one girl did it because she wanted to make sure she could fit into her Prom dress. Yep, she took a human life so that she could look good. Now, when was the last time you heard about a guy who killed his barber for a bad hair cut before a big date? No one? Neither have I. I wouldn't wonder why the left is insane. It's packed with mass murderers who think that taking a human life is just fine before a big night out with the girls so she doesn't look fat. If you can justify that kind of sick devaluation of human life, you can justify just about anything. Men at least go to jail for taking a life. These women are the people trying to shame you for not dating them. Uhhhh... they may be free to choose but the term "damaged goods" doesn't quite cover a woman who has taken several human lives for her job, her looks, and her personal convenience. No man I know is climbing corporate ladders by pure killing. Lies and double-dealing, sure. Tearing humans limb from limb literally? Not one that I am aware of except Kim Jung Un of North Korea and we all know what a sick puppy that fellow is.
Bottom line, women have done this to themselves. If you're a guy, the only good wife left is likely one who goes to an orthodox Christian Church. The rest are riding the rod-rollercoaster, taking human lives like men go shopping for jeans and basically turning themselves into the sickest human beings who ever lived. Men should wake up. Women are so much worse than men ever dreamed of being. Not even the worst men who ever lived in all of history have done what modern women do. Have some pride, guys. Not even our worst day looks like these ladies' best day. They are loony for a reason. They just don't want you catching on to who and what they really are. So, wakey, wakey, fellas. We aren't the bad guys anymore. Women are the most beautiful monsters you will ever meet. Stay well away or they will trash your life and your future faster than you can say, "false abuse". Thank your Republican and Democrat parties for their non-partisan support for planned parenthood and feminism. Because who wouldn't want to date a lying, murdering, crazy woman and have their life ruined by them?
@@meishakester6502 I dunno if your joking but if your not then you are just the opposite problem.
In the USA alone, wahmen have aborted more than 60 million babies since the 1970s. Stalin would be soooo proud!👈🤘🤘
Remember when that whole "It was all just a dream" excuse was introduced into early TV shows, like Dallas and St Elsewhere, as a lazy script writers attempt to bring back killed off characters or undo bad decisions written into the plot episodes earlier and it outraged fans so much that it has now been considered a big no no for any TV series since then?
How refreshing and widely accepted would that method be in retconing the Chibnel seasons out of the series lore?
Just tack on the excuse of aliens, or the master using alien tech to mess with the Doctors dreams for...........reasons and I'll be up for it. It's the only way to undo all the damage that's been done so far.
There are a million things that could be done!!!👍👍👍👍
Just imagine. What does the doctor see when he closes his eyes? He's hallucinated, been confused after regenerations, passed out into a multi day long comma, had so many people's thoughts put into his head, and has lived so long. 9th doctor made it clear early on that he can feel time all over the universe, and can come up with complex hypothetical situations on a whim. So stick with me on this. For the first time, we see The doctor wake up from sleeping off his latest regeneration as Peter Capaldi. Our new introduction to The Doctor... Hugh Laurie. The last Doctor was all in his head, and he shudders at one of the many nightmare that he has when he does sleep. (It's like 4 hours max every 3 days.) and so we start an entire new era of Doctor, with an old man Capaldi, and so on down the line they will become younger as it was with the previous 12 (excluding War doc because stress is a bitch.) Just immagine House M.D.s witt on a cosmic level.
Return of the Dream Lord!
@@thebanditman5663 I never considered Hugh Laurie but he sounds like a pretty good suggestion.
I always thought Richard E. Grant should take up the role.
He did a good job as the voice actor for a Dr Who animated short film, Scream of the Shalka. He should give live action a go too.
I've seen people talking about this in regards to Marvel Comics, how pretty much everything since 2014 could be explained away as Loki having got a hold of the Cosmic Cube, and has just been screwing around with the universe for years on end for his own amusement.