Had to double-check whether he was running AS rune or not (he was), but at that level with no other additional sources of AS the margin for error was minimal - xPetu, to his own dismay, managed to time that perfectly. Not that it mattered in the end, but still. Based on the recovery time I'd wager Darius might be running both Unflinching and Legend: Tenacity though, Legend wouldn't have gotten very far yet at this point and as xPetu mentioned he has no (visible) source of tenacity.
I've tried a similar build. I suggest going demonic, sunfire and titanic then take overgrowth and grasp. The plan is to get as much HP as possible and scale as much HP into damage as possible. These 3 items will give you HP scaling as damage, and overgrowth + grasp will let you scale HP infinitely as long as you keep farming and fighting.
@@IronKurone It was really good, though like @ChromeGNJ mentioned, Frostfire might be better than Sunfire. It has slow utility and it gives more HP which lets demonic and titanic do more damage. xPetu should do tests with both options. Update: frostfire is getting nerfed in 11.24, sunfire might be better.
sunfire is sadly shaping up to be season 12's triforce, pretty much every tank mythic, even the support ones, are more stat efficient. In my opinion, the issue is that it gives you tenacity, which isn't as valuable on tanks as it is on bruisers because the tanks can survive the longer periods of damage, and also gives the least hp per gold spent. Frostfire having an AOE onhit every 4 seconds also lets you take shorter trades without ALWAYS losing them, so tldr: RIP sunfire
@@Jousef9 He tends to understand that playing the game is for fun though, so unless hes getting truly stomped which isnt common, hes quite positive about it all
@@Mr-Ling the maximum extra health it can gives is 400hp with 4 legendary and it 8 ap on demonic, not that much considering sunfire gives 50hp per legendary now its a 4ap difference :P but sunfire needs to stack before applying the burn whereas frostfire proc it every 4s
As a rule of thumb you only want to go Sunfire against very brawlery teams (juggernauts, divers, tanks etc) or if the enemy team has absurd amounts of cc. Especially since the changes, it takes a fair amount of uptime for your Sunfire bonus to outpace everything Frostfire offers you - especially since Sunfire gets much less "uptime" outside of teamfights. Another important difference which isn't obvious if you're going for Demonic Embrace is that the slow field from Frostfire will apply the Demonic dot, which improves your waveclear - Frostfire already has better waveclear than Sunfire assuming you're not also fighting a champion, so Frostfire+Demonic can help you make up for not getting Titanic (at least not early). Before the changes there were more situations where you'd want to build Sunfire - especially against enemy champions that want long trades and aren't very kiteable with the Frostfire slow, but the changes helped Frostfire get closer to Sunfire in damage and Sunfire get closer to Frostfire in tank stats.
Which one would you prefer to use to climb. Gore drinker shen or this new build? I took goredrinker shen into tier 1 clash and won both clash tournaments. Is it match up dependent?
PETU i have to tell you, i just finished two presentations and one exam today. now illegal good leftover pizza + FRESH xpetu video combo to save the day
Hello Petu! I wanted to tip you off on the demonic embrace + titanic hydra + frostfire combo, hidden technology of insane ad, ap, burning, on-hit, wave clear, hp, tankiness etc. it boasts insane damage and scaling, as well as perfect synergy with shens kit - it is really fun and really powerful
They're nerfing gauntlet (11.24), are you just going to replace it for Sunfire or stay with it ? Seems like a decent nerf sadly. Frostfire Gauntlet Damage: 20-100 (+0.5% Max Health) >>> 12-85 (no HP ratio)
While that's a sizeable nerf, I think you're overselling how weak Frostfire will be. It's still straight up more damage than before the changes in 11.23, and while Sunfire got buffs as well that patch, it's important to remember that Frostfire will still be stronger than it was back then, and it still was the go-to choice in most matchups even then. Also, if Demonic is going to stay it's important to also factor in that Frostfire's aoe proc applies Demonic's burn - I don't know if Sunfire's empowered on-target burn can apply it, but even if it does that takes 5(?) seconds to stack up at minimum during champion combat. Frostfire also offers more waveclear against minions. I do agree that the lack of scaling feels a bit bad, I'd honestly rather see them further nerf the base an appropriate amount and keep a health scaling. Both feels better and makes it harder to utilize on ranged champions who don't plan to build more health that might consider it (Kog, Ez situationally, Senna).
With Frostfire getting nerfed next patch, do you think It's still the best mythic for Demonfire Shen? I feel like the loss of the hp scaling on it's passive will make it significantly worse for Shen.
I came here to ask this as well. I hope we get an answer, because I also thought of trying this combo when preseason dropped and I've been loving it so far.
I'd also like to see an answer to this question. Once the changes drop, I'm thinking it might be a good idea to try Chemtank but I'd like to see what xPetu has to say.
Unless the nerfs are massive, I'm pretty sure it would still be Frostfire. Frostfire's slow field applies Demonic (unless that's one of the nerfs), which means you're not forced to rely on Q or E to apply it. While you're usually going to hit your primary target with one of them, having a low CD aoe application is wonderful. If the nerfs are huge you might want to look into Chemtank - specifically if the damage proc from Chemtank can apply Demonic's burn. In that case it would be a viable option if neither of the other two feels good.
@@WLMinaro as of right now the nerfs are the removal of the HP scaling on the frostfield passive. While the item still synergyses well I believe that woulf be a big nerf for Shens dmg. Personally I feel like with the new Chemtank on Shen you have about no waveclear
Problem is i always get pinged when trying new builds even when trashing the enemy top laner, and it makes me sad. Great to see you having so much fun all the time.
Would only more people laugh over missing their spells and get less frustrated.. your attitude always makes me feel nostalgic, reminds me of the time where we only had the ladder system in league ^^
Can't wait to try out this build. Right now I'm having fun zooming aroung the rift with Chemtank + dead man's plate with full MS runes (relentless hunter + celerity/ water walking) = Giga first hit damage
Xpetu I have been testing the new cosmic drive on shen and I can tell you it's pretty good with all of that extra AP as well as the movement speed to keep up with enemy to hit your Q easier also the 30 haste is amazing
Question from a growing Shen main: Do you have any tips for wave management with Shen? I often find myself taking tp instead of ignite because I'm paranoid about not being able to manage my waves properly, and I think its really hurting my potential.
Im a kind of person who likes classic builds for shen and not interested in new builds, but THIS gonna makes me abuse this build bc it feels so suitable from the stats he needs to the passive to the way it works, thanks xPetu
hi, love you videos. what do you think about blade of the ruined king on shen? So something like divine sunderer, demonic embrace, BORK, rest tank items. should make together with shen's Q a hell lot of hp based burst damage. Maybe even go lethal tempo on that.
I watched this video and i tried at my first game in this week and it works my game score is 11/1/10 absolutely insane build thank you for the tutorial! (Sorry for bad english)
out of curiosity, what is your opinion on buying a cull on shen? (i usually take one when i have a lead to expand it or remain equal in gold with the laner i leave in free farm)
OMG PETU, this game hahahah #1 thus far for sure, action packed, although u made some minor mistakes and inted a few times the level of entertainment and your comments make it such an amazing video. As a shen main for over 1k + games, you inspire me and move me everytime I watch your videos.
Petuu can you upload how you play different matchups against different champions. Like ur thought process, ur trades everything really. :))) Love you man
xPetu is the best channel of RUclips! I'm a Shen main thanks to you, I love your videos, man! Thanks! ^^ PS. Do you intent to do videos coaching Shen players? I think it may be interesting to understand these technologies excluding the influence of your mechanics! Basically, how these technologies work without your godly mechanics! o/
8:34 you can actually see Darius in the middle of an AA animation but for some reason it stopped and he started walking. Edit: actually, looking at it again. The taunt actually landed right before he swing his axe back. In fact, the taunt cancelled that animation. The sudden change of target seem to had caused his AA animation to slow down, giving Darius enough time to cancel it after the taunt ran out .
Petu! Love the new forbidden Shen tech, definitely tying later, I was wondering what setting/keybinds you use for auto attacking? It’s so satisfying to watch
Excuse me, Master xPetu. What will become of this build when Frostfire Gauntlet gets nerfed this incoming patch? Is it going to be worth building it or shall we try for more expensive Sunfire? Awaiting for your wise advise... -Genteus, pupil from Monterrey, Mexico.
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Marry me Petu. I have a visa for you
THIS ONE MUST GO WILD AND FREE
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Another like for another dark technology
Does x in xPetu stand for amount of new technologies on Shen?
Thank you xpetu, we Shen mains, we all have to unite together, this build will be fun to try.
You could say that we must... stand united
Stand United my fellow Shen brothas!
Stand United my fellow Kinkou's!
Stand United!
Forbidden United Shen's combo!
NEW SHEN TECHNOLOGY
New? Yes. Bad? Aswell.
That feeling when Darius just finished an AA and his attack speed is so low he doesn't even hit you after the flash taunt 🤠🥳
Had to double-check whether he was running AS rune or not (he was), but at that level with no other additional sources of AS the margin for error was minimal - xPetu, to his own dismay, managed to time that perfectly. Not that it mattered in the end, but still.
Based on the recovery time I'd wager Darius might be running both Unflinching and Legend: Tenacity though, Legend wouldn't have gotten very far yet at this point and as xPetu mentioned he has no (visible) source of tenacity.
XPetu-releases technology to the public.
Heimerdinger- "this is not what the future of piltover looks like my boy
Good one
@@Negative_Osden Also true one. Build aint good.
@@Playmodik i meant the joke is good
@@Negative_Osden I know my man :D
LOL
STOP THIS LUNACY
8:35 he autoattacked a minion before you taunted him, and with his slow attack speed he wasn't able to auto attack you in your taunt, sadge
I can't see any minion, screenshot and circle it. If anything, he hit the turret and that put his AA on cd.
@@wowandrss right, my bad. I assumed it was a minion but had no idea
this interaction happens to me a lot, i taunt flash the enemies under my turret => 0 turret hit on the enemy
if you W too quickly in the EQW combo, the attack doesn't hit you because of the W. So they do no damamge and don't draw aggro.
I think it's because of not enough damage to break the shield. Just like if the damage didn't break your shield, you can still recall.
Classical Petu overconfidence after a tripple to make the game even and watchable for the viewer! Thank you PetuGX
I've tried a similar build. I suggest going demonic, sunfire and titanic then take overgrowth and grasp. The plan is to get as much HP as possible and scale as much HP into damage as possible. These 3 items will give you HP scaling as damage, and overgrowth + grasp will let you scale HP infinitely as long as you keep farming and fighting.
Frostfire mathic passive ends up being more valuable than sunfire
It‘s 750 total health with 4 legendary items
Interesting man! How is the result?
@@IronKurone It was really good, though like @ChromeGNJ mentioned, Frostfire might be better than Sunfire. It has slow utility and it gives more HP which lets demonic and titanic do more damage. xPetu should do tests with both options.
Update: frostfire is getting nerfed in 11.24, sunfire might be better.
sunfire is sadly shaping up to be season 12's triforce, pretty much every tank mythic, even the support ones, are more stat efficient. In my opinion, the issue is that it gives you tenacity, which isn't as valuable on tanks as it is on bruisers because the tanks can survive the longer periods of damage, and also gives the least hp per gold spent. Frostfire having an AOE onhit every 4 seconds also lets you take shorter trades without ALWAYS losing them, so tldr: RIP sunfire
Do i prefer ability hastw runes and boots of ability hase
I love how happy you are playing this game. Isn't that against the rules?
Its all about mentality
Happy Shen noises, the video
He, and most youtubers only show the good games where everything goes perfectly, everyone is happy on those
@@Jousef9 He tends to understand that playing the game is for fun though, so unless hes getting truly stomped which isnt common, hes quite positive about it all
This preseason i suffered as hell with shen , that's why I decided to wait for your wise advices! Thank you xpetu you're our saviour
Have you tried going Axiom arc on shen support?
@@nightingale8178 i dont want to play with randoms in the same lane
The way Petu says words with R in them makes me want to grab my lotion and walk to the bathroom
😳
I actually recently picked up Shen and you are so funny- This video made me smile and I'm excited to play more Shen!
Imagine playing League with such joy.
It's way better with Sunfire, I've played many times and you burn the enemies(THe burning not the item)
@UCZ-LgrgQmreC2eeJt1B08ew That's why I edited yhe comment
Frostfire gives health which equals more ap tho
@@Mr-Ling the maximum extra health it can gives is 400hp with 4 legendary and it 8 ap on demonic, not that much considering sunfire gives 50hp per legendary now its a 4ap difference :P but sunfire needs to stack before applying the burn whereas frostfire proc it every 4s
As a rule of thumb you only want to go Sunfire against very brawlery teams (juggernauts, divers, tanks etc) or if the enemy team has absurd amounts of cc. Especially since the changes, it takes a fair amount of uptime for your Sunfire bonus to outpace everything Frostfire offers you - especially since Sunfire gets much less "uptime" outside of teamfights.
Another important difference which isn't obvious if you're going for Demonic Embrace is that the slow field from Frostfire will apply the Demonic dot, which improves your waveclear - Frostfire already has better waveclear than Sunfire assuming you're not also fighting a champion, so Frostfire+Demonic can help you make up for not getting Titanic (at least not early).
Before the changes there were more situations where you'd want to build Sunfire - especially against enemy champions that want long trades and aren't very kiteable with the Frostfire slow, but the changes helped Frostfire get closer to Sunfire in damage and Sunfire get closer to Frostfire in tank stats.
Yesterday I got the M7 with Shen, thanks for making me interested in Shen and making such fun videos
really appreciate your commentaries!
Which one would you prefer to use to climb. Gore drinker shen or this new build? I took goredrinker shen into tier 1 clash and won both clash tournaments. Is it match up dependent?
PETU i have to tell you, i just finished two presentations and one exam today. now illegal good leftover pizza + FRESH xpetu video combo to save the day
Appreciate the 1st kill you had on Darius top lane. Great micro managing from start of 1st wave to level 2 all in. Show me more Sensei.
Hello Petu! I wanted to tip you off on the demonic embrace + titanic hydra + frostfire combo, hidden technology of insane ad, ap, burning, on-hit, wave clear, hp, tankiness etc. it boasts insane damage and scaling, as well as perfect synergy with shens kit - it is really fun and really powerful
12:49
respect for twenty one pilots bro
Im not playing LoL anymore but i love to check your Shen videos. Always played Shen as a main not nearly as good but I had ton of fun. Cheers..
I wish I had this level of joy with this game, omg. Love your videos! :D
They're nerfing gauntlet (11.24), are you just going to replace it for Sunfire or stay with it ? Seems like a decent nerf sadly.
Frostfire Gauntlet
Damage: 20-100 (+0.5% Max Health) >>> 12-85 (no HP ratio)
the lack of scaling makes me sad af. Guess we going back to sunfire
Nooo, my fav build. Let's migrate to sunfire, lads.
gauntlet will become useless again sadly
While that's a sizeable nerf, I think you're overselling how weak Frostfire will be. It's still straight up more damage than before the changes in 11.23, and while Sunfire got buffs as well that patch, it's important to remember that Frostfire will still be stronger than it was back then, and it still was the go-to choice in most matchups even then.
Also, if Demonic is going to stay it's important to also factor in that Frostfire's aoe proc applies Demonic's burn - I don't know if Sunfire's empowered on-target burn can apply it, but even if it does that takes 5(?) seconds to stack up at minimum during champion combat. Frostfire also offers more waveclear against minions.
I do agree that the lack of scaling feels a bit bad, I'd honestly rather see them further nerf the base an appropriate amount and keep a health scaling. Both feels better and makes it harder to utilize on ranged champions who don't plan to build more health that might consider it (Kog, Ez situationally, Senna).
The Shen Technology it's getting more and more powerful
Yes but this is not it, Petu missed with this one
@@Playmodik what build do you recommend then?
This channel is honestly so great, so many banger videos
I cannot wait to play this. I really liked goredrinker shen but still felt like I couldn’t carry games because I was on the squishy side.
+1 for the algo. one of the best small content creators for sure
I hope to see more of this build honestly. I tried it in my clash game and I popped off
This is like drugs for me Thank you for this blessing
Started playing Shen because of you. and loving the content, keep it up :)
is it just me or u seem more excited and happy compared to ur older videos?
ur excitement are sooooo contagious
Xpetu 5 seconds after saying, "I'm not really interested in fighting until I have my ignite up." 2:52
With Frostfire getting nerfed next patch, do you think It's still the best mythic for Demonfire Shen? I feel like the loss of the hp scaling on it's passive will make it significantly worse for Shen.
I came here to ask this as well. I hope we get an answer, because I also thought of trying this combo when preseason dropped and I've been loving it so far.
I'd also like to see an answer to this question. Once the changes drop, I'm thinking it might be a good idea to try Chemtank but I'd like to see what xPetu has to say.
Unless the nerfs are massive, I'm pretty sure it would still be Frostfire. Frostfire's slow field applies Demonic (unless that's one of the nerfs), which means you're not forced to rely on Q or E to apply it. While you're usually going to hit your primary target with one of them, having a low CD aoe application is wonderful. If the nerfs are huge you might want to look into Chemtank - specifically if the damage proc from Chemtank can apply Demonic's burn. In that case it would be a viable option if neither of the other two feels good.
@@WLMinaro as of right now the nerfs are the removal of the HP scaling on the frostfield passive. While the item still synergyses well I believe that woulf be a big nerf for Shens dmg. Personally I feel like with the new Chemtank on Shen you have about no waveclear
29:24 has got to be the coolest looking sync with vi. You both split directions after that.
amazing video again, just a small request, could you do a video on blade positioning? I still tend to struggle with it.
Problem is i always get pinged when trying new builds even when trashing the enemy top laner, and it makes me sad. Great to see you having so much fun all the time.
I've rarely seen you this excited so early on into a match and I am all for it
you are getting more comfortable and confident and i can hear it i love your videos shen mains :D
9:23 its true, I subscribed to xpetu and my gaming chair is so good, I dont even play league anymore
Would only more people laugh over missing their spells and get less frustrated.. your attitude always makes me feel nostalgic, reminds me of the time where we only had the ladder system in league ^^
I got my first S tier shen recently. He's one of my faves thanks to you xPetu!
the first of many bro, keep it up
Can't wait to try out this build. Right now I'm having fun zooming aroung the rift with Chemtank + dead man's plate with full MS runes (relentless hunter + celerity/ water walking) = Giga first hit damage
Just going to say I love that you still keep playing shen. I have such a hard time staying alive with and winning games with him
Xpetu I have been testing the new cosmic drive on shen and I can tell you it's pretty good with all of that extra AP as well as the movement speed to keep up with enemy to hit your Q easier also the 30 haste is amazing
Yo Xpetu one quiz how is Frostfire Gauntlet gonne work Season 12 if Riot nerfed the item patch 11,24 or will the build still work ?
that "WOOHOO!" at 4:02 gave me life
This Demonfire Shen finally got me to gold rank after 10 years hard stack on silver :) Thanks Petu !
Question from a growing Shen main: Do you have any tips for wave management with Shen? I often find myself taking tp instead of ignite because I'm paranoid about not being able to manage my waves properly, and I think its really hurting my potential.
Best I can say is to watch the old SoloRenektonOnly videos (3-5 years ago) on wave management and minion targeting. It helps me dominate my lane.
8:38 beautifully done my friend
great video, how do you get your auto attack to show up as a circle? Is it better than just clicking things to autoattack?
This is the most amazing Shen gameplay I have ever seen. You are the greatest.
The most wholesome streamer honestly!
xPetu: behold this most powerful ancient forbidden Shen technology
Me: this is the 7th week in a row you've shown a most powerful Shen technolgoy
The “whoohoo!!” at 4:03 made me laugh XD
I absolutely love all of your technology videos xPetu, lots of love
29:24 this was mathematically perfect kkk extreme levels of satisfaction
Petu, amazing as always!!! You know, one of my dreams as a League of Legends player is to one day be skillful enough to surpass you
Im a kind of person who likes classic builds for shen and not interested in new builds, but THIS gonna makes me abuse this build bc it feels so suitable from the stats he needs to the passive to the way it works, thanks xPetu
Did anyone make the "OH" face during that intro?? DAAAANGGGGG, Shen bringing out the old school beatdown.
7:10 transition from killing a control ward (probably) to placing a stealth ward. Satisfying.
Hmm i will try a version of this build where i go. Frostfire demonic (bramble) titanic thornmail abyssal mask
hi, love you videos. what do you think about blade of the ruined king on shen? So something like divine sunderer, demonic embrace, BORK, rest tank items. should make together with shen's Q a hell lot of hp based burst damage. Maybe even go lethal tempo on that.
I watched this video and i tried at my first game in this week and it works my game score is 11/1/10 absolutely insane build thank you for the tutorial! (Sorry for bad english)
out of curiosity, what is your opinion on buying a cull on shen? (i usually take one when i have a lead to expand it or remain equal in gold with the laner i leave in free farm)
OMG PETU, this game hahahah #1 thus far for sure, action packed, although u made some minor mistakes and inted a few times the level of entertainment and your comments make it such an amazing video. As a shen main for over 1k + games, you inspire me and move me everytime I watch your videos.
like all the others forbidden builds, I'm gonna try it, love from Italy man
i just love ur style in gameplay, one of my fav lol players that i love to watch, keep it up .
How did i only get to know you today via Neace! Should've been on my birthday that this video came out! Best ever brother!
Petuu can you upload how you play different matchups against different champions.
Like ur thought process, ur trades everything really. :)))
Love you man
Nothing brightens my day quite like hearing xPetu say "Greetings, dear viewer."
xPetu is the best channel of RUclips! I'm a Shen main thanks to you, I love your videos, man! Thanks! ^^
PS. Do you intent to do videos coaching Shen players? I think it may be interesting to understand these technologies excluding the influence of your mechanics! Basically, how these technologies work without your godly mechanics! o/
Been doing this build on Maokai and Shyvanna since the item reworks. Can't believe I didn't even think about using it on Shen
I like seeing new Shen Stuff!
I've been building this since it came up on PvE because it also boosts your ult for maximum technology, really ninjago build
Thanks Petu for Shen ulting me just before big exams hit!
8:34 you can actually see Darius in the middle of an AA animation but for some reason it stopped and he started walking.
Edit: actually, looking at it again. The taunt actually landed right before he swing his axe back. In fact, the taunt cancelled that animation. The sudden change of target seem to had caused his AA animation to slow down, giving Darius enough time to cancel it after the taunt ran out .
Nice video! I love to see your videos, always gotta be looking respectfully at the content
Truly, Shen Gaming.
Choker is my fav track from that album.
I love that at 13 minutes in the video he managed to bait both vayne and ww :D
Petu! Love the new forbidden Shen tech, definitely tying later, I was wondering what setting/keybinds you use for auto attacking? It’s so satisfying to watch
The rollercoaster of League of Legends is real in this ones early game.
True sience... Technology must evolve! We shall stay united :D
xPetu’s having a lot of fun so far with new shen builds
Hey, Petu!
Is this build good If I will rush demonic after my predator boots on river shen?
13:30 Man HE DISAPIERT. New Sub!!
EDIT 3rd ITEM Nashorstooth op
I subscribed since last year and I love the videos. So uh, where's my secret labs chair?
8:31 darius attack speed was so slow that he didn't get an auto attack while being taunted
"Succeeding from Failure"
It was perfect 💕 i can't wait to try 💁🏼♀️
Sanırım sende Shen main olmalısın 😄
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Love your gameplay. Could you make a video, how to last hit as Shen like you are doing with A and why?
You really inspire me to be a better shen 🔥
Excuse me, Master xPetu. What will become of this build when Frostfire Gauntlet gets nerfed this incoming patch? Is it going to be worth building it or shall we try for more expensive Sunfire? Awaiting for your wise advise... -Genteus, pupil from Monterrey, Mexico.
xpetu really said: looking respectfully
26:35 : Petu: "Im gonna peel my carries i think"
also petu: flashes 1v3 into enemy backline as he speaks :D
Subscribed for the gaming chair ROFL
Had a blast with the goredrinker build, thanks for this new technology
Amazing Technology Master, Thx from Brazil
I love your energy in your videos
The Shenpai at it like old times; some say his thoughts are so advanced, sometimes you can’t understand what he’s saying 8:47