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14950 tragedy😢 Zelensky is a butcher. He sent his people to certain death.
Usually the casualties reported by the enemy is about the same like the own ones. Best is to add the quoted death and divide by two, Ukraine reports 0 casualties, Russia ± 14900 so true figure is 7450 dead NATO & Ukrs in Kursk.
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Remember, if 15 000 are killed, that means probably 45 000 are injured - so a pretty bad situation for Ukraine.
The ratio is probably way skewed more towards kia than you'd usually expect given the huge difficulty of medical evac in that region.
If 15k killed and 45k injured, it would mean they brought way more than 100k soldiers into Kursk.. It doesn't really add up! I think 15k are the total casualties, and their entire force in Kursk is around 50k. Makes way more sense mathematically, and with the scale of clashes we've seen
its 15k total causalities, don´t be so eager for some things that you don´t actually hear what he´s saying.
It's killed, injured and captured with the vast majority being wounded.
One of the main reasons why the Ukrainian advance slowed down so much after the first week was because they had to use an increasing number of their surviving vehicles to evacuate the wounded. A lot of the vanguard units also found themselves having to walk back to the border after their vehicles got damaged or destroyed.
@@Br1cht; it’s more then 15,000 casualties dude. There’s at least 1000 dead just in drone strikes on published video.
The Russians are often pretty conservative with their death estimates.
Like prigozhin made a point to the Ukranians for putting their dead into caskets and sending them back every week. In the thousands. The Kursk offensive has been going on for 7 weeks.
Theres at least 7,000 dead.
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The Russians are using the exhausting of UA forces.
The UA strategy was, to have normal troops in the fortified positions on the front, if there was a attac, special forces rushed in for support.
But by any attac this special forces got decimated on the way to the front and in frontal fighting. And this most highly motivated forces (far right nationalist), can not be reproduced, because this people went to the army on the first day of war.
And this process we are seeing now. Forced soldiers, wait the moment to desert to the Russians.
And because this is not enough, the high motivated ideots start an attac to the Russian mainland and left the positions to act as trouble shouter in the Donbas.
14950 ukrainian troops are casualties (killed, wounded, surrendered and so on), not only killed in action.
That's true.
❤Okay Thank you for that
Surrender is not counted as casualty.
@@shouleewang4131 the text just say losses. It's vague enough to include the prisonners.
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Ukies completely forgot about Pokrovsk 😂
kinda the opposite tbh
It's insignificant anyway
Nothing to see there folks .🤣
The Kursk incursion was for PR purposes. Imagine being sent to occupy the woods there and getting decimated daily just so the western media can pretend their Ukraine proxy isn't being defeated all along the main front?
The only important parts of the front are those you can spin positively for yourself in the media.
Reality or real significance don't matter, only narratives are
I don't believe there are 100k troops in Kursk - this number in such a small area is unbelievable.
He also said that the Russians lost 8k although at no point during the war they had such losses... he is trying to hard now
There isint fantasy100.000
@@teosal3224 sorry my friend There has been great loss on both sides in just over 2 half years but before that there were losses going back to 20 14. Supposedly Ukraine and Those Wanting a Republic but it was a set up by putin to build his bridge to have a land grab at all of Ukraine BUT TODAY AS UNBELIEVABLE AS IT SOUNDS EST RUSSIAN DEAD IN UKRAINE FACE DOWN DEAD SENT BY PUTIN IS 634.000 THOUSAND DEADSONS DADS UNCLES COUSINS GRANDADS NEVER GETTING TO MARCH IN RED SQUARE AGAIN . ALSO HALF A MILLION RUSSIANS maimed returned to Russia with very little support to help mend there broken minds and bodies I dont know what Ukraines are but as a rule it would have to be half that number As Unlike putin just flinging people in to die. .Ukraine will give up a bit of grd and let them have it . Temporarily They put there forces first in most cases. Whether you believe me or not thats up to you my friend You will have to go back to the start and working out
They themselves said they have 1/3rd of their army in that area so it’s not impossible
@@off6848 If you don't know by now Under putin truth is banned at birth . Any educated person following this war . Can tell from the start putins war is all smoke and mirrors in Ukraine And his propaganda machine spits the lies out non stop With there payed army of bloggers selling the . Myth indestructible Russia totally fantasy . But everyone to there own For me he will get nothing . As Nato will finish it for Ukraine in Ukraine even without the Americans . There slow to get going but once they do. There pretty fast Lots going to happen between America and Europe movement wise in the next 2 months Flight will be non stop
nice summary. amazing how this continues.
Cheers Wyatt.
I remember people speaking of 120 k Ukrainian troops in the north earlier in the year, when it was speculated they were threathening Belarus
And that might still be the case, but not in the Kursk region/offensiv alone. The 100+K troops are mainly to protect the northern borders and Kyiv, but for the offensive they have way less.
@@DonJupp321idk I think they’re constantly dragging them in they’re basically trickling 1000s at a time
That 15k casualty number (dead, wounded and captured) is for the entire Kursk operational theatre, so it includes the losses suffered on the Ukrainian side of the border in and around Sumy (for example, this is where almost all of the artillery and mlrs losses have occurred).
Considering how many different brigades have been involved in the operation It is quite clear that they were being rotated quite frequently due to severe casualties - especially in vehicles.
The 15K losses for Ukraine is overblown (casualities maybe?), but Russia certainly didn't had 8K losses either. Remember at the begining they barely had any regular troops in that area and since they arrived they are in the defensive role, while the majority of the confrontations are done by air strikes and artilliary vs Ukrainian offensive. Ukraine has sent in wave after wave of mechanized forces, which got taken out way before they even reached Russias main defensive line. The Loss ratio should be easily 3:1 against Ukraine if not worse.
UKR were often ambushed, air strikes etc. Also, they were always moving around which is not the safest thing to do, right?
Over 10k, estimated up to 21k, and was reinforced recently, minimum reinforcements should be around 2-5k. Otherwise estimation they lost 15k is generous, because they lost a lot, when the advanced slowed down considerably, you can guess more than half are gone.
both sides are surging forces into the area. ive seen videos of army colums from both sides surging forces to the area . the caulties are accurate for ukraine at 15 k. because ukraine as stated by zelensky had a 40k troop reserve force . thats what they probably sent to kursk. russia barley had anythign in the area true but russia also had 200k troops in reserve not depolyed that they are surging to the area. zelenksy also pulled troops out of the donabas uknown number to send to the area of kursk and sumy . so his 40 k force in the area is probably even larger like 50 -60 k troops. but the russian air force is constantly hammering these forces.
Maybe the casualties include injured and missing as well, 15k and 8k are really quite a lot even for this sort of offensive.
Nice video, i'd like your content because you are neutral,you take the informations from both side and thats good.
Way more good than propagandist from Russia and Ukraine.
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14k is basically 500/day & Elensky Bet the Farm, on this Incursion... 🚜🏠
Neighboring Nafo pouring into southern Russia looting
I think the Ukrainian' losses are much higher... the Russian' pinpointed air and artillery strikes on the "massive troop concentrations" in the rear positions (in Ukraine) to regroup forces to push into Russia, are the main contributer to the "higher" losses.
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these kind of videos are my new favorite.
Regarding the Russian claim on Ukraine casualties (like any stat to be taken with a pinch of salt) the comuniqué says "... have lost more than 14.950 troops ...". "Lost" implies only "not available to fight", which rangest from slight wounds to POW, KIA and MIA. Even taking that at face-value, fatalities would probably range between 20-35% of that number. Material losses are more easily to get an aproximation through geolocations and open-source, although it is a tedious work.
I'm old enough to remember when Russia ran out of shovels.
it looks like The Ukraine has committed everything it has in Kursk, how many mercenaries are left? I wonder if we will see massive changes after the Kursk offensive.
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ah.. i heard that ! the shit no longer hits the pan. LOL the shit now hits the fan.
Definition of Russian claims of Ukraine losses
After many months, the overall consensus concerning Russian claims of Ukraine troops loses is that the number Russia gives is a casualty number. That is, killed and wounded. The definition of wounded isn't clear. My guess is that 2/3 of the number that Russian gives is KIA, and the rest wounded. This means that wounded means severely wounded. Perhaps hospitalized, or should be hospitalized, is a good definition of wounded.
In wars such a Vietnam the ratio of wounded to killed increased because critical care could often be provided due to helicopter and other rapid evacuation methods. The level of care in the field also improved. Trained medics were often available.
It appears that field care for wounded Ukraine troops isn't very good, and minutes or hours are lost in getting seriously injured troops critical care. This means that many Ukraine troops die that would live with better care. The extensive human and equipment resources necessary to provide good care of Ukraine troops is likely not provided. A lack of human resources with the required training devoted to this care plus rampant corruption are the likely major reasons for this failure. No one on the Ukraine or NATO side is likely seriously tracking any of this.
Keep in mind that Ukraine troops and troops of other nations that are killed in various locations around Ukraine, but not on the front lines, appear to no be included in the Russian daily numbers. For example, if an Iskander strike killed 100 NATO and Ukraine troops in a hotel, those 100 appear to not be included in the daily KIA plus wounded numbers.
The U.S. lost 406,000 dead in WWII out of about 16,000,000 in the military, fighting a war on several continents, with less advanced medical care available. Ukraine has lost far more than 406,000 personal dead out of less than perhaps 1,500,000. The Ukraine leadership and NATO are sponsoring and executing a human disaster.
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100 000, meh.....At best case 30k, most of them without" brawl" experience.
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@@trollartruck4433 thanks mate but still some minutes left )
They were 90K ukronazis now they are only 70K main thing you forget to say most of the KIA are US Rangers and US-SS! Russia fighting there with only 12K so they did sure not lose 8K😂like U said U allways forget the main thing Russia always has 20x more ammunition than Nato and nazi thralls thats why they lost 20K ukroorks in 6 weeks!!! Otherwise nice one 🔥👊🔥 great vid.
15000 losses, don't mean that all the losses equal to loss of life. The russian ministry is talking about total losses : including WIA, MIA, prisonners. By the way, the same ministry have only one way to evaluate the enemy KIA and WIA : to go there and count.
No one is idiot enough to believe the minister guys actually did it. So, only Ukraine know the extent of ukrainian losses. And it's the exact same thing for russian losses.
These losses are the best secret of this war of attrition. It's the real fog.
Russian claims are normally almost true
defense politics Ay Zhuh
and this is Emotional Damage report
Thanks 😊
3x15k KIA = 45K troops engaged. Add 15K reserves. Not 100K.
That number actually makes sense.
Because before the Kursk operation, intel reporst suggested that the Ukrainians had massed around 40k troops in the Kharkov oblast. My guess would be that most of those troops are what they used in the Kursk operation.
We now also know for a fact that the Ukrainians redeployed most of their veterans from other fronts to Kursk in the beggining.
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You forget that some Russian game got more classify doc leak than any channel combine just the normal forum site.😂
Commander I find your guestimates about manpower in Kursk highly inflated. It is a good topic, interesting question but facts are thin on the ground. We got fogged😅
MilitaryLand shows Ukrainian troops in Kursk at 8 brigades, 7 battalions and 3 other grouping such a s UAV group. Based on this, the current number of Ukrainian troops would be roughly 30,000. Ukraine does not show any sign of giving up in Kursk so additional reserves will be added as needed.
50k is probably correct. I've seen a video where one of the RUclipsrs showed which Ukrainian brigades/divisions were assigned to the region. Maybe weebunion I don't remember exactly, and that youtuber put the number around 40-50k. I don't think they have committed all these troops. Still Ukrained used most of its offensive capabilities in this cursed offensive regardless of the losses
It is parts of brigades moving around, your RUclipsr did not even get that right
THETI Mapping shows the brigades there’s at least several air assault brigades of the 8x moniker (82nd,81st etc) and dozens of battalions of say around 40k
@@off6848 if you look at his map or ask him you will find that HQ move around parts of units which piss their command and render the theti drawing a bit less accurate but it is a fact of life
When fighting from fixed positions, how much does it matter if you are an undertrained 45 year old Conscript or an Elite Highly Trained & Experienced Warrior when you are in the Blast Zone of Glide Bombs, Area Saturation Artillery & Rocket target or the incineration & blast Zones of Thermobaric Weapons? This War is Brutal! Bet Many Troops Never Even They Died!!!
The 93 APC number; probably, includes the MRaps... The other 768 number is; probably, Humvees & equivalents..
I got a strong impression that the Ukies be having 2 different commands, one where they penetrated, one where they've done nothing,, despite it being seemingly obvious from every vantage. There's no reason they would just put themselves in a cauldron, unless someone is not conceding to grand strategy
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I have a question. Do you have any military academy background at least on staff officer level?
I dunno what is a staff officer in Singapore context. My last rank is first sergeant.
Yep, 100,000 strong army enter in Kursk?? Russian offensive frenzy...all right, for sure.
Yep, operation is big, big losses for all...for sure, all right.
You are guessing, you have no data on HOW MANY ENTERED & HOW MANY REMAIN in kursk
He is guessing of course and even your question is not perfect because people/units rotate
I literally said I was. =\
Pokrovsk is neither an huge population centre (Mirnograd is larger) nor a key fortress that you have to conquer to advance further but a logistical node, once it's possible to fisically cut the major motorways going from it toward the front lines South and East, it will lose all its importance.
what does probing entail on the frontline?
You are saying 50000 troops of ukraine still in kursk ?
Nonsense
Russians are about 30000 and Ukrainians a little more, these are the estimates.
Please give facts , HOW MANY UKRAINIAN Soldiers first entered Kursk,if 13000 killed how many remaining ?
Where are you taking the 8,000 Rus casualty from?
He made it up.
This was what I'm telling people Russia can use like their national guard and reservist in Kursk because it's an invasion not an incursion. I think Russia has 500,000 . From.their 1M army.
I think NATO is trying to make Russia spend more in this war. Because NATO still has an ace card they can invade Ukraine because it's not a NATO member or invade Russia itself.
Your gonna be talking about kursk alot
I wish I could better understand why WW2 size pincer movements aren't being used. I know that it doesn't make sense due to new technology, but I wish there was a resource somewhere that would go into detail of that so that I could update my tactics knowledge from WW2.
Big concentrations of troops result in guided weapons, drones and artillery destroying the forces.
@@aitorbleda8267 Yep. Just wish there was a military book that detailed it.
You do a good job of explaining the status of the war on many fronts and provide insight into why certain moves are made by Russia. No one else provides this sort of detail on a daily basis. Your three channels provide separation of overall status, from changes, from opinion, which is great.
You have one of the three major purely military status channels IMO. There is another channel that provides status on a daily basis as part of its content, but without maps, which is absolutely worthless IMO.
You refrain from introducing the type of crazy ideas presented several times a week that are found on one of the other two most useful military status channels. These nonsensical ideas take away from the quality of that channel.
Your swearing is very ineffective and means that your vocabulary seems so limited that you must reuse just a few words to cover a variety of subjects. The English language is a very rich language, reducing it to a few words is language negligence. While you may think swearing is cute and makes you, "one of the guys," it actually brings you down a level and your videos down with you.
Try 'This is War' channel... pretty sure its Russian MOD funded but it has amazing clips that it somehow puts up on youtube.
Please dont be like other chanells , report facts .
How many Ukrainian soldiers in kursk?
Why you write so many comments asking the same question. Conclusions segments are pure opinion and analysis.
You want facts only, watch the SITREP on DPA War channel. There are no reliable numbers get over it.
Losses are terrible whatever side but in ww 2 Germany lost 200,000 and Russia 800,000 in battle of Kursk so when we talk about huge battles and losses we must take a perspective
Irrecoverable losses of the Soviets: 254,470 killed, captured, missing! 800,000 - total losses of the Soviet army at Kursk!
Irrecoverable losses of the Germans: According to German sources 103,600 killed and missing! 500,000 - total losses of the German army at Kursk!
I don't believe the 15 k accurate, it's probably 3 times less but still 5k dead soldiers in a failed offensive it's a lot
100,000 strong?!? LMAO took three settlements and now is stalled out. Russia army is a joke if that is the case!
Why don't you american retards Come to ukraine and play
your map is very behind lots of confirmed changes are missing
You'll see that tomorrow.. no difference
Look at the date of the report; there is nothing on 19th sept.
Looks like Kursk is the Die Hard of the Nafo Try Hard's
RIP John McClain.
If 50000 Ukrainian soldiers entered kursk HOW many STILL remain i kursk
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RUclips is so irritating right? =\
So many people complained abt comments disappearing (i dont delete comments)
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Remenber your first video no face just sound and
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You are making too many videos about nothing changing. It is becoming tedious. I give up on your videos nowadays after 5 minutes. I did not do that 6 months ago even though the real changes were smaller.
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How many ukraine soldiers entered kursk ?
How many are still existent in kursk ?
ANSWER THIS , do not analyze.
ANSWER with FACTS
Please do not ascess , report facts with number of ukraine soldiers in kursk obviously too many or RUSSIA would be in control of KURSk
they are fundamentally in control now... they have the initiative, they have superior logistics, air superiority, local populace is 98% with them.... occupation was always a joke, it was never going to happen... Ukraine didnt have the resources to take parts of Russia and hold them at the start of this war, let alone now.
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Estimated Ukraine troops along whole Russian border were 100k-130k. A reasonable number compared to whole line. Estimated Russian troops are 75k and nobody was able to find more than 4 brigades at Kursk. So Russia has zero troops for any kid of buffer zone or to clear Kursk. Ukraine troops in Kursk? Nobody can say as their units most of the time are under strength. Losses? Who knows but due to Russian fire power, Ukraine loses more. 15k dead, for sure not. 15k out of action, yes if you count all that border shelling of secondary positions. Ah, I remember those stories about Russian 200k ghost army ready to strike... In this year, if I remember correctly, single biggest attacks were company size and 3 times.
The runor eas not 200k ready to strike... Was 200k on leave. They would return to the front in october, supposedly.
Who knows if true, who nows when in october, who knows if they come as reinforcement or as replacement... As always, we'll see.
@@luisodriozola79 No, 200k ghost army was created by MSM, ordered by military, so Ukraine could gather troops for Kursk attack. The whole story was bigger as every day they invented new directions where that army could enter Ukraine. And Russian intel was so bad that they found out about it only few days before and did not believe the size of it. They expected that 300 previous incursion across the border that was also done exactly for deception purposes. For some reason everyone thinks Ukraine is in charge of this war but it's NATO and if anyone thinks they are idiots... When everyone realizes NATO is in charge and that they are doing different kind of war, thing will become much clearer.
@@luisodriozola79 My comment was again deleted so will be very short. That story of 200k ghost Russian army led to Kursk attack.
too much blah, tldr
Check yor reporting , dont think you are a war expert BUT trying to make money out of reporting
Who is a war expert you think?
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I repeat how many Ukrainian soldiers in kursk ?
How many still alive ?
I hear ukraine is damaging russia in kursk ,it seems true
Russia lost lots of amunition and weapons
Not as much as NATO lost via the multiple strikes on depos in Ukraine.
Peanuts compared the what's been lost in Kursk alone on the NAFO, Azov side, and it's just getting worse for Kyiv and Blinken.
Actually russia is producing more than it consumes
They still have shovels.
bruh... you are talking about the greatest nuclear and conventional weapons arsenal assembled in human history during the days of the USSR they got to play with... they wont be running out for a long long time.
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Is this channel full of bs to help the muscovity nzi feel better about themselves
Dont forget zelenskys victoryplan. he has a secret plan that can win the war for him as soon he start it.😂
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