What do you think of Oppenheimer? Is he a hero, a villain, or something in between? And what about secrecy? Is it more important than we (and J Rob) think? Discord: discord.gg/VWcpybH683 Patreon: patreon.com/spectaclesmedia - CORRECTIONS - 👻 (for now…)
Ask the Chinese who lived in Nanking in 1937, the millions of "volunteer" "comfort women", the million victims of unit 731, the hundreds of thousands of starved POWs (especially those that Japanes soldiers ate....not joking Mark Felton has some good videos on it), the babies used for bayonet practice (Google the dozens of pictures of it), the 250,000 murdered Philippinos, 10 million murdered Chinese civilians, 5 million Korean slave laborers, and indigenous populations throughout the pacific and South East Asia if he was a hero. The Japanese durring WWII were just as evil as the Nazis, sometimes worse. Their atrocities even shocked Nazis (John Rabe). WWII Japan should be treated the same way that we treat Nazi Germany.
Murder is murder, plus, they obtained the uranium through brutal activities that killed people in Africa, he's a villain like he's masters and rotting in hell along with all war criminals.
I always laugh when I see people blaming Hitler for everything, Hitler was just a face or puppet, like Biden, presidents or dictators don't do much. They listen to their entourage that makes observations in the field, then they make a decision based on that, but it's usually the people we don't see in the news that come up with decisions and execute said decisions. Basically Hitler is just a face to blame, he didn't know how to do anything, like Biden he had a team for that, just like Biden he's a danger to his own team. This works far better because in the case of an assassination the plans could still continue by replacing Hitler with someone else. Notice how bullies in school always point out a target and dump everything they do on that person. It's not entirely the same but the concept works the same. The true evil master minds are the people we don't hear or see about and that still works that way to this very day. This is why the world is a mess regardless of who you elect, the game is and always has been rigged. By painting Hitler as the ultimate villain it just gives modern day politicians a scape code to do things like the war in Ukraine "well at least they're not gassing jews" everyone thinks, but when you think about it this is a bad comparrison because our current politicians still profit from death. Saying one type of death is not okay but another type of death is, is just hypocritical and shows how little our society has learned. People are stuck in the past.
I am quite sure that people fall into the 2 groups alluded to but I don't think _optimist_ is the best word to describe someone in group 1, and I don't think _pessimist_ is the best word to describe someone in group 2. I think perhaps willfully stupid people and sadly wise people are better names.
@@GreenmiIe Yes, indeed, I retained the same verb in each of Dr Oppenheimer's 2 sentences, and retained the same object in each. All I did was change the subject. Instead of optimist I said willfully stupid people. Instead of pessimist I said sadly wise people. I felt no need to use the article _the_ in each sentence. So I removed the 2 article words. But I did not add any extra "steps" Rather, I added one adverb and one adjective to each sentence. Those are not steps. Those are noun-modifiers. They do not describe actions; they describe things. So because I removed 2 words and added 4, the whole paragraph became just 2 words longer. And I think the term _willfully stupid people_ is better at describing what kind of person thinks "this" is the best of all possible worlds than the word "optimist" does. Why? because "the best of all possible worlds" refers to the world we have at the time of Dr O's comment, refers to the world of Dr O's "now." An optimist is someone who is thinking about the future, as opposed to someone who is thinking about a "now." .So it's the wrong word. Sadly wise pessimist is a better subject for sentence number 2 than pessimist. Again a pessimist is thinking about the future. A sadly wise person is someone thinking about the present, the "now." I say "now" because Dr O is referring to how someone thinks about "this world" - he uses the term "this world," not some future world, but _this_ world.
Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. Then if you don't extinguish both it burns everything down. Yes Oppenheimers security clearance was sacrificed along with his reputation. Yet is his sacrifice more valuable and meaningful than the hundreds of thousands of peoples actual lives fighting Germany and Japan? I think not. He knew he would be castigated and he also knew his reputation and honor would eventually be restored. As it was. Might doesn't make you right. Being right brings you might. Both America and Oppenheimer were right. Its not a mutually exclusive situation.
The quality and effort put into this video is truly commendable. I was captivated from start to finish by your engaging storytelling and nice visuals. The depth of research and attention to detail shine through, making it an informative and enjoyable experience. Congratulations on this beautiful video! Keep making these even though the like/view metrics may not be as high as expected, competition on RUclips is brutal but hopefully quality will win over quantity in the end!
You have obviously not seen or heard other efforts on this subject. I thought it glossed over much and barely scratched the surface where other efforts succeeded. I rate a B.
I really liked the narrative thread of openness vs closedness throughout this video. It helps elevate it above a simple historical retelling of Oppenheimer's life and the development of Atomic bombs.
That is because in 1932 America was still a Republican country. By 1933, the Democrats had taken over and implemented their policies. 110,000 Japanese Americans were rounded up and forced into concentration camps. In 1934, FDR and the Democrats began marijuana prohibition, incarcerating thousands of blacks and Latinos. Jobs for people of color were banned, and districts were redlined.
I don’t know if he was a hero or a villain. But he was certainly just trying to survive. There was a threat and when the govt needed him he answered, sure there were self serving motivations but answered non the less. Did his job well. He then felt guilty when reality hit him that we human beings are violent and irrational. Perhaps he knew all along and hoped for a different outcome. It was only a matter of time before the nuke was invented and ofcourse something bigger and more destructive is expected to be created. We will never stop. From the movement someone used a stick and stone to win a fight, that’s when we started arms raise. We been doing this for too long and will rather nuke ourselves to death than to admit defeat of ideals.
I don’t necessarily believe in hero’s or villains, you are either good or bad, which is kinda the same thing, but in ww2 you can’t call Germany the bad guys, you call hitler the bad guy, yeah there was some bad soldiers but there were a lot of good ones to that maybe needed money, we’re brainwashed or just had no choice.
Imagine being a student/teacher on a school in los alamos, just chillin, and then Einstein came in and asked to be a substitute teacher because he was bored.
For a channel your size the documentary was really well put. Editing was also really good. I could see you put a lot effort in making it. I really hope you get more subs in the future.
Because of this video alone this channel is gonna blow up in the near future (no pun intended). Your voice, your knowledge, your editing, subject-matter and the details you include are all a work of art, a true masterpiece.
That is ridiculously ignorant since his downfall was orchestrated by one man, and Dr. Oppenheimer LET himself be martyred as an attempt at redemption for what happened.
Yes. This is an excerpt from the Academy rules booklet: "II. CATEGORIES The Documentary awards are divided into two categories: A. Documentary Feature - motion pictures with a running time of more than 40 minutes, and B. Documentary Short Subject - motion pictures with a running time of 40 minutes or less, including all credits.
Regarding "Why America Betrayed Oppenheimer": Is this video not a very good, short, documentary? Could it not, conceivably, be a candidate in the AMPAS category of Short Documentary? Maybe you should ask @charlesbrain if his question was facetious ("rhetorical") or sincere. Or both. @@joemarsden68
I feel as if the atomic bomb (and its implosion) is a perfect metaphor/parallel between it and Oppenheimer - its creator. When the bomb is being charged, about to explode -- it reminded me of Oppenheimer's upbringing in the scientific world, him "charging up" essentially. Then, the explosion -- just as the highlight of Oppenheimer's career as the Father of the Atomic Bomb, a man who was insanely respected and reputable. Then, the silence after the explosion -- just as things started to calm down and cool off in Oppenheimer's life after the incident of the bomb's explosion. And finally...the loud booming crash as a result of sound catching up after the initial blast of light -- symbolising Oppenheimer's eventual battle as The United States and the government turned their backs on him, removing his security clearance and accusing him of political ideals. In the end, the atomic bomb dies out and eventually fades to nothing... just as Oppenheimer eventually dies and he too, fades to nothing. This was just something I noticed and wanted to share. The movie itself is phenomenal, just as this video is.
Oppenheimer meant well, he thought the Powers that Be would be terrified by it. No wonder he almost went crazy when he saw what they really had in store not only for Japan, but for whoever dared challenge the growing military industrial complex
He was a traitor, like a lot of people were of his elk and he was a traitor, and he gave them the evil fucking Russians that and he didn’t make anything better. He was trying to Russian Jewish guy and he wasn’t for America and he’s a piece of shit because of his views on communist, Russia deals, and all that and he was probably a socialist communist heart too, and he was he’s not a hero and he’s not available and either he’s neither. He’s a traitor.
True. Oppenheimer wasn't nearly as plotful as people think he was. he wasn't a politician. he was a scientist, and he was naive regarding American foreign policy. He thought once the bomb was created and tested in Los Alamos, it would be enough to scare the Nazis and end the war. In his mind America and the Soviet union were Allies, which they were until the war ended.
@@RailwayScholar Really wrong it was a traitor, trying to get in and he’s helping his mother country rock. He was a Russian Jewish guy and they played both sides. I don’t know why that always happens but I haven’t wore to 1 about Palestine. The same thing they threw the Germans over and they were right there in the middle of that so figure out what you will, but that’s just the truth of the matter is sold out of the Emilee program. Paid pretty good for it too, but it wasn’t my money and he was a traitor, flat out.
I stg this movie made me feel something I’ve never felt before. Even hours later I can hear the clicks of a Geiger counter in the back of my head. Phenomenal work by Nolan.
Nolan is just such an incredible artist. Love all his work. I saw it in IMAX opening day (it came out my birthday so I treated myself). Amazing film with mesmerizing practical effects.
Thank you Harry & Philip. Every single detail in this video deserves acknowledgement & praise - i.e. the outdoor locations, the chalkboard, the timeline at the bottom, the hat & suspenders outfit - such an excellent retrospective. Now as a non American, I have a lot to say about this inhumane subject but being “Anti-America” towards innocent Americans is counterproductive. Mass destruction weapons are more than just “bombs” & the catastrophic consequences didn’t end with WW||.
Ah yes, "Anti-American"...lovely You can always count on people like you to have the crappiest takes imaginable There's nothing inhumane about this If you want to see something inhumane you might want to look up Nankin or Unit 731 or any bajilion other attrocities This is merely case of "frick around and find out"
Loved this. I felt the hours & hours you guys put into this condensed into a perfect nugget. Also beyond stoked the algorithm is running with this one. Long deserved!
Unfortunately the McCarthy of that era was just building his power & reputation (of imposing fear) just as is the McCarthy of this era. Oppenheimer was too obvious and easy a target, just as Rep. Adam Schiff is today. We cannot let today’s McCarthy ruin his target. Schiff is desperately needed in the Senate.
I wouldn’t call him a hero nor a villain, he have discovered a bomb that could lead into a destruction of human race, I’m pretty sure he discovered the bomb to end the war but he would have an awareness that creating such powerful destruction bomb wouldn’t make him a hero
really thought he was at least 500k subs but then i could not believe a video of this quality had only 15 thousand, this dude is as good or even better than the Front and a decent bit more. You will reach a mil in no time with this quality of content
It seems clear that Oppenheimer was a reluctant genius-hero of unfortunate necessity for ending Japanese imperial conquest. However, he was disgracefully betrayed by the demagoguery of evil war-mongering American elites who saw a way to exploit his creation for fun-and-games, and wealth and power, far more than was necessary, and under the guise of more necessity for the good of mankind. A dangerous escalation gambit that "Oppie" was insightfully trying to prevent.
This is a pretty misguided opinion. He understood the entire time “his creation’s” use was not up to him. The construction of it was inevitable with or without him and it’s development prevented a major world war from breaking out and still does. His massive ego caused him to take on all the guilt of its use and act irrationally which prevented him from being part of the future of nuclear power.
The production quality of your videos just keeps getting better and better. Your content is on another level. I can’t wait to see what you put out next. I did get a much needed laugh when you called J. Edgar Hoover a certified lunatic. 😂
From Phillip to Philip , I truly loved this incredible take on an explosive time in our history. It was the dawn of a new era, a new power; you bring great light to the dismissal of Oppenheimer.
It's not accurate that the scientists did not know if either bomb design would work. They did know that the uranium bomb would indeed work and for that reason it was never tested before it was dropped on Hiroshima. What they weren't sure of was whether the plutonium bomb would work. The test at Almagordo on July 16, 1945 was of the plutonium bomb. The test succeeded and the plutonium bomb was dropped on Nagasaki to observe the effects on the city and the people who lived there, since Japan was already defeated well before then. Also, the the sketch of the uranium bomb is not quite correct. It was the female piece of uranium that was slammed by the canon into the male uranium component, not the other way around.
5:20 following up to my comment on the short, yeah the monologue feels much better in context here, to me, as a contrast to the more relaxed narration prior. I would just orefer the intensity of emotion (and maybe color contrast ;) ) turned down 10%. Excited to keep watching!
Was anybody else watching this video thinking to themselves 'Wow this is really well done, this channel must have millions of subscribers', then you check the sub count and you're shocked to see 14k. The quality of this video and others on this channel gives me vibes of channels with 3+ million subscribers. Videos are very informative, but also introspective and easily digestible.
Important note about America's openness, it was mostly for more well off Jews and refugees, while tens of thousands of Jews seeking refuge in the United States, Britain, France and other such countries would not find it due to the closeminded attitude of these nations, and antisemitic sentiments present within their populations as well. There was an attempt to figure out what to do with the Jewish refugees through the Evian conference in 1938, yet it practically changed nothing.
James Byrnes was in the room, with Truman and Oppenheimer (in the feature film). Oliver Stone produced a 10 episode documentary, "The Untold History of the United States." Truman was not ready to succeed FDR. Byrnes influenced Truman heavily. Made Truman a fanatical anti-communist and Russo-phobe. Oppenheimer wanted to share the designs of the bombs, for humanitarian reasons. In Truman's mind, that made Oppenheimer a crybaby. (Stone's doc is good.)
@@daveclennon6997 Yeah bro lets share design of the most destructive weapon in history so far to an country that teamed up with Germany to carve up Europe and then refusing to give it up, imposing their will over people living there for decades to come. Which also happens to our ideological enemy I'm sure it totally wouldn't backfire "Humanitarian reasons" what a sick joke I'm a Pole and Truman was just right and you accidentally proved it yourself His remark about Oppenheimer being moron is completely justified
@@daveclennon6997absolutely false! Stone’s “history” are lies and exaggerations. And Truman was not an anti-communist fanatic. Truman was absolutely correct in recognizing that the Soviet Union was untrustworthy and insincere. They were never interested in peace.
@daveclennon6997 no, it was because Oppenheimer said he felt he had blood on his hands, even though he didn't have anything to do with what Truman did with the bomb.
@@tylerschwabrow6048 Maybe Truman despised Oppenheimer for both reasons: (1) Oppenheimer felt he had blood on his hands because he gave Truman this terrible weapon, not knowing how he would use it. (2) He didn't want his invention to cause more bloodshed, so he proposed sharing the designs with other nations, believing that if many nations had the bomb, none would be foolish enough to use it.
They exist and numerically there are more educated people, but take a look at Humanities these days; therefore I doubt well-rounded and genuinely articlate are easy to find among scientists@@BobBob-lz3yb
Not exactly true. There’s a culture of fear imposed by the ideologues in bureaucratic positions of power who give ideological purity tests and demand EDI proclamations and fealty to the mob before approving their grants. What equity has to do with cutting edge science, you can decide for yourself.
You know Pop Pop, there are a number of adjectives that describe the insistence on a superior past, but I doubt you’re familiar with words like atavistic because it’s rarely found in dogmatic rags like Ignite Your Faith (R.I.P. 2009), and it contains more than 2 syllables. You may now finish your prune juice and return to your Bill O’Reilly bathroom reader, putz.
Very well consolidated and presented; never diverting from the story thread. Oppenheimer did a job exceedingly well using his subject knowledge and charm and managerial skills under great time pressure and scientific uncertainties. At that time the horrors of such weapons could not be estimated/visualized comprehensively, hence all that political backlash...
An American Leader whose genius saved a Million American casualties if we had had to fight (in President Truman's Words) "A series of Okinawa's from one end of Japan to the other." The American Nation we know today would never exist without Robert Oppenheimer's overwhelming contribution to the American War Effort.
We Americans were trusted with a lot of power and we just out here fuckin it off. That message from OG Oppenheimer himself was amazing. Thank you for your video , I really enjoyed it.
@@bloodaonadeline8346 oh sure, world has houndreds of trillions in debt, wealth is in hands of the 1%, most workers live like slaves, barely getting by to pay all the bills, great job, what a prosperity... If your contry didnt have the corrupted media giants and the truth was out there, Russia is way better country to live in than the US, I would rather live under putin than under the pathetic, mostly demented, geriatric white house..
@@bloodaonadeline8346Oh you did a good job? Never managed to get a disarmament agreement with Russia and now you have prepped a big fucking firework that can destroy the world by a hair trigger. thanks a lot.
I recently completed the Audible book "American Prometheus". If you're interested in Oppenheimer (and/or the McCarthy era), it's really a fascinating read/listen.
The movie makes it very clear Oppenheimer was persecuted as an act of revenge by the head of the AEC. This person used his position to investigate Oppenheimer and then when Oppenheimer didn't resign he used an underhanded lawyer who denied Oppenheimer's lawyer access to information because it was classified.
15:21 This is a common misconception. The larger hollow cylinder of U235 was fired at the smaller target cylinder, not the other way around. This wasn't public knowledge until a couple decades ago so a lot of diagrams of Little Boy have it backwards. Great video as always. Please keep it up!
In the video, you said, you do not know what the J in oppenheimer full name stands for. In the American Prometheus book, I remember reading the "J" stands for his father name Julius.
It was really more of a joke, but the truth is that it's really not clear. Probably in reality it was meant to stand for Julius, however his birth certificate only said "J," so legally it stood for nothing! It's conceivable, given his upbringing and education, that his parents were the type to not want him to be named directly after his father, so it may have been intentionally open to interpretation... Thanks for watching and commenting :)
Startling to hear the song Turncoat (a fitting name for a video about Oppenheimer) playing. I can’t believe it’s been almost five years since Unus Annus.
What an amazing & brilliant short video, Also as the wonderful storytelling, knowledge & effort has been made through the entire process but amused didn't see the documentary moves up to the sky interms of viewing, subscribe etc but surely will be highest viewing channel in the future. Ones again Thank you though
Well gawwd damn! I wasn't expecting this to be probably the best short documentary on here on RUclips on this subject. While at the same time, showing very accurately the dangerous consequences when government gets in the way of the proven ways of the scientific method.
In fact, the first project to make an atomic bomb was started in the UK in 1940 and the Manhattan Project took the scientists from that, then after the war kept the secrets developed there and refused to share them with the originating country.
why would they, they paid for the scientist's labor, after that what they do with the finished product and with whom they share their knowledge is for the US to decide
Not true. "I'm from the government and I'm here to help". Now how is your syphilis today"? I'll get to helping you as soon as I'm done helping these little native American children".
To correct things at 16:00 , The reason they had two ideas was completely practical. The gun-type worked well for uranium because it is more stable than plutonium but there was not enough to make more than one bomb. Uranium was plentiful relatively speaking because much less was needed. But a gun-type bomb could not be made with plutonium because it would go critical before the projected piece hit the accepting piece. Thus the implosion method was proposed. It was not because they were just testing different ideas.
What do you think of Oppenheimer? Is he a hero, a villain, or something in between? And what about secrecy? Is it more important than we (and J Rob) think?
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He is one of many scientists who worked on the bombs. He is no villian and no hero.
Stop with showing your face in videos. Do like Mustard, never show your face. Be better than you are now.
It's a breaker of focus.
Ask the Chinese who lived in Nanking in 1937, the millions of "volunteer" "comfort women", the million victims of unit 731, the hundreds of thousands of starved POWs (especially those that Japanes soldiers ate....not joking Mark Felton has some good videos on it), the babies used for bayonet practice (Google the dozens of pictures of it), the 250,000 murdered Philippinos, 10 million murdered Chinese civilians, 5 million Korean slave laborers, and indigenous populations throughout the pacific and South East Asia if he was a hero.
The Japanese durring WWII were just as evil as the Nazis, sometimes worse. Their atrocities even shocked Nazis (John Rabe). WWII Japan should be treated the same way that we treat Nazi Germany.
I'd say, nether. He was a scientist in search for the ultimate truth, that of the atom.
Murder is murder, plus, they obtained the uranium through brutal activities that killed people in Africa, he's a villain like he's masters and rotting in hell along with all war criminals.
Hitler essentially kicking out top scientists from Germany has to be one of the best examples of “you played yourself”
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I always laugh when I see people blaming Hitler for everything, Hitler was just a face or puppet, like Biden, presidents or dictators don't do much. They listen to their entourage that makes observations in the field, then they make a decision based on that, but it's usually the people we don't see in the news that come up with decisions and execute said decisions. Basically Hitler is just a face to blame, he didn't know how to do anything, like Biden he had a team for that, just like Biden he's a danger to his own team.
This works far better because in the case of an assassination the plans could still continue by replacing Hitler with someone else.
Notice how bullies in school always point out a target and dump everything they do on that person. It's not entirely the same but the concept works the same. The true evil master minds are the people we don't hear or see about and that still works that way to this very day. This is why the world is a mess regardless of who you elect, the game is and always has been rigged.
By painting Hitler as the ultimate villain it just gives modern day politicians a scape code to do things like the war in Ukraine "well at least they're not gassing jews" everyone thinks, but when you think about it this is a bad comparrison because our current politicians still profit from death. Saying one type of death is not okay but another type of death is, is just hypocritical and shows how little our society has learned. People are stuck in the past.
Not exactly. They still had Heisenberg and Otto Hahn. Under their leadership they build nuclear bombs. The US was just faster.
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The US Vaccumed them up
@@Pan472Yoy have no idea how hard I’m fighting not to make a Breaking bad reference.
“The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. ”
― J. Robert Oppenheimer
I am quite sure that people fall into the 2 groups alluded to but I don't think _optimist_ is the best word to describe someone in group 1, and I don't think _pessimist_ is the best word to describe someone in group 2. I think perhaps willfully stupid people and sadly wise people are better names.
@soilmanted Congrats, you just ruined a great quote told by one of the greatest physicists in the history of the world
@@soilmantedGo and get laid. Enjoy! 🍏
@@soilmantedliterally the same thing with extra steps, and dumbed down to kindergarten phrasing.
@@GreenmiIe Yes, indeed, I retained the same verb in each of Dr Oppenheimer's 2 sentences, and retained the same object in each. All I did was change the subject. Instead of optimist I said willfully stupid people. Instead of pessimist I said sadly wise people. I felt no need to use the article _the_ in each sentence. So I removed the 2 article words. But I did not add any extra "steps" Rather, I added one adverb and one adjective to each sentence. Those are not steps. Those are noun-modifiers. They do not describe actions; they describe things. So because I removed 2 words and added 4, the whole paragraph became just 2 words longer. And I think the term _willfully stupid people_ is better at describing what kind of person thinks "this" is the best of all possible worlds than the word "optimist" does. Why? because "the best of all possible worlds" refers to the world we have at the time of Dr O's comment, refers to the world of Dr O's "now." An optimist is someone who is thinking about the future, as opposed to someone who is thinking about a "now." .So it's the wrong word. Sadly wise pessimist is a better subject for sentence number 2 than pessimist. Again a pessimist is thinking about the future. A sadly wise person is someone thinking about the present, the "now." I say "now" because Dr O is referring to how someone thinks about "this world" - he uses the term "this world," not some future world, but _this_ world.
They betrayed him because they didn’t need him anymore, but they needed someone to be the bad guy.
Good point.
I think betray is the wrong word since they didn't hide anything. Oppenheimer knew he wasn't liked by the people that wanted him out.
"They need you now, but when they don't - they'll cast you out, like a leper. Dropped at the first sign of trouble"
Dude literally was friends with several know spies.
Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. Then if you don't extinguish both it burns everything down.
Yes Oppenheimers security clearance was sacrificed along with his reputation. Yet is his sacrifice more valuable and meaningful than the hundreds of thousands of peoples actual lives fighting Germany and Japan? I think not.
He knew he would be castigated and he also knew his reputation and honor would eventually be restored. As it was.
Might doesn't make you right. Being right brings you might.
Both America and Oppenheimer were right. Its not a mutually exclusive situation.
Oppenheimer was a complex man. Truly a beautiful and tragic story and person. One of the most important people in history.
A communist who made a weapon that can destroy an entire city, important, No. Infamous, yes.
My le bomb
I’d consider his importance in our world to be more influential in the world stage than Jesus Christ or any other profits.
Lmao wut@@Remour
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Debatable, but we didn't really have much time with Oppenheimer yet so we have to wait and see for the next couple thousand years.
Mr Oppen, I'm afraid to inform you that your creation, "Japmelter 3000 Megaladon Ultrakill", has been used in...an unexpected manner.
"I thought we were building a rice cooker...😢"
"You are technically correct."
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@@nulled7888holy shit xd
@@JohnSmith-mc2zzthey made anime far before ww2 stop spreading this retarded propaganda they even made animes on ww2
My le bomb. L-le killed people
The quality and effort put into this video is truly commendable. I was captivated from start to finish by your engaging storytelling and nice visuals. The depth of research and attention to detail shine through, making it an informative and enjoyable experience. Congratulations on this beautiful video! Keep making these even though the like/view metrics may not be as high as expected, competition on RUclips is brutal but hopefully quality will win over quantity in the end!
You have obviously not seen or heard other efforts on this subject. I thought it glossed over much and barely scratched the surface where other efforts succeeded. I rate a B.
@@randscott4676 Could you please share the names of other RUclipsrs you liked who covered the subject of Oppenheimer?
Ah-So BRAVO…..!
I really liked the narrative thread of openness vs closedness throughout this video. It helps elevate it above a simple historical retelling of Oppenheimer's life and the development of Atomic bombs.
Thanks for your comment and your positive energy as usual, blade! Really appreciate it :)
That is because in 1932 America was still a Republican country. By 1933, the Democrats had taken over and implemented their policies. 110,000 Japanese Americans were rounded up and forced into concentration camps. In 1934, FDR and the Democrats began marijuana prohibition, incarcerating thousands of blacks and Latinos. Jobs for people of color were banned, and districts were redlined.
I don’t know if he was a hero or a villain. But he was certainly just trying to survive. There was a threat and when the govt needed him he answered, sure there were self serving motivations but answered non the less. Did his job well. He then felt guilty when reality hit him that we human beings are violent and irrational. Perhaps he knew all along and hoped for a different outcome. It was only a matter of time before the nuke was invented and ofcourse something bigger and more destructive is expected to be created. We will never stop. From the movement someone used a stick and stone to win a fight, that’s when we started arms raise. We been doing this for too long and will rather nuke ourselves to death than to admit defeat of ideals.
I don’t necessarily believe in hero’s or villains, you are either good or bad, which is kinda the same thing, but in ww2 you can’t call Germany the bad guys, you call hitler the bad guy, yeah there was some bad soldiers but there were a lot of good ones to that maybe needed money, we’re brainwashed or just had no choice.
Reality is a bish
Sad isn't it
His family , among others , made their fortunes peddling opium to the orient . If he was naïve, it was a very studied naivety…
he was a jewish communist
“It’s Joever.”
- J. Robert Oppenheimer when he made the first nuclear bomb and when asked what the “J” stands for.
@EclipsaMyrtenaster - The J stands for Julius.
www.nps.gov/articles/000/the-life-of-j-robert-oppenheimer-life-before-the-manhattan-project.htm
Imagine being a student/teacher on a school in los alamos, just chillin, and then Einstein came in and asked to be a substitute teacher because he was bored.
For the last part of his life Einstein did basically nothing except collect the paychecks.
That happened with Teller, later in life! They refused him, no teaching certification kid you not! ( the father of the Hydrogen Bomb!)
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if i was a student id ask whos this bum i want tesla
For a channel your size the documentary was really well put. Editing was also really good. I could see you put a lot effort in making it. I really hope you get more subs in the future.
Because of this video alone this channel is gonna blow up in the near future (no pun intended). Your voice, your knowledge, your editing, subject-matter and the details you include are all a work of art, a true masterpiece.
He made the same mistake that millions of people do today, he trusted Government.
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He was actually a victim of right wingers.
Sadly. :(
That is ridiculously ignorant since his downfall was orchestrated by one man, and Dr. Oppenheimer LET himself be martyred as an attempt at redemption for what happened.
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Is there an Oscars category for best short documentary?
Yes. This is an excerpt from the Academy rules booklet:
"II. CATEGORIES
The Documentary awards are divided into two categories:
A. Documentary Feature - motion pictures with a running time of more than 40 minutes, and
B. Documentary Short Subject - motion pictures with a running time of 40 minutes or less, including all credits.
@@daveclennon6997i think that was a rhetorical question
Regarding "Why America Betrayed Oppenheimer": Is this video not a very good, short, documentary? Could it not, conceivably, be a candidate in the AMPAS category of Short Documentary? Maybe you should ask @charlesbrain if his question was facetious ("rhetorical") or sincere. Or both. @@joemarsden68
Need to check out the Japan is dying video. It's incredible.
I feel as if the atomic bomb (and its implosion) is a perfect metaphor/parallel between it and Oppenheimer - its creator.
When the bomb is being charged, about to explode -- it reminded me of Oppenheimer's upbringing in the scientific world, him "charging up" essentially. Then, the explosion -- just as the highlight of Oppenheimer's career as the Father of the Atomic Bomb, a man who was insanely respected and reputable. Then, the silence after the explosion -- just as things started to calm down and cool off in Oppenheimer's life after the incident of the bomb's explosion. And finally...the loud booming crash as a result of sound catching up after the initial blast of light -- symbolising Oppenheimer's eventual battle as The United States and the government turned their backs on him, removing his security clearance and accusing him of political ideals.
In the end, the atomic bomb dies out and eventually fades to nothing... just as Oppenheimer eventually dies and he too, fades to nothing.
This was just something I noticed and wanted to share. The movie itself is phenomenal, just as this video is.
This was a FANTASTIC program! Very well done. A LOT of work went into this. Thank you for the education!
Insanely well-done video! I'm shocked this doesn't have more views
Oppenheimer meant well, he thought the Powers that Be would be terrified by it. No wonder he almost went crazy when he saw what they really had in store not only for Japan, but for whoever dared challenge the growing military industrial complex
No he just unbelievable dumb, its not that deep
He was a traitor, like a lot of people were of his elk and he was a traitor, and he gave them the evil fucking Russians that and he didn’t make anything better. He was trying to Russian Jewish guy and he wasn’t for America and he’s a piece of shit because of his views on communist, Russia deals, and all that and he was probably a socialist communist heart too, and he was he’s not a hero and he’s not available and either he’s neither. He’s a traitor.
he was a jewish communist
True. Oppenheimer wasn't nearly as plotful as people think he was. he wasn't a politician. he was a scientist, and he was naive regarding American foreign policy. He thought once the bomb was created and tested in Los Alamos, it would be enough to scare the Nazis and end the war. In his mind America and the Soviet union were Allies, which they were until the war ended.
@@RailwayScholar Really wrong it was a traitor, trying to get in and he’s helping his mother country rock. He was a Russian Jewish guy and they played both sides. I don’t know why that always happens but I haven’t wore to 1 about Palestine. The same thing they threw the Germans over and they were right there in the middle of that so figure out what you will, but that’s just the truth of the matter is sold out of the Emilee program. Paid pretty good for it too, but it wasn’t my money and he was a traitor, flat out.
I stg this movie made me feel something I’ve never felt before. Even hours later I can hear the clicks of a Geiger counter in the back of my head. Phenomenal work by Nolan.
Nolan is just such an incredible artist. Love all his work. I saw it in IMAX opening day (it came out my birthday so I treated myself). Amazing film with mesmerizing practical effects.
Thank you Harry & Philip. Every single detail in this video deserves acknowledgement & praise - i.e. the outdoor locations, the chalkboard, the timeline at the bottom, the hat & suspenders outfit - such an excellent retrospective.
Now as a non American, I have a lot to say about this inhumane subject but being “Anti-America” towards innocent Americans is counterproductive. Mass destruction weapons are more than just “bombs” & the catastrophic consequences didn’t end with WW||.
Ah yes, "Anti-American"...lovely
You can always count on people like you to have the crappiest takes imaginable
There's nothing inhumane about this
If you want to see something inhumane you might want to look up Nankin or Unit 731 or any bajilion other attrocities
This is merely case of "frick around and find out"
Loved this. I felt the hours & hours you guys put into this condensed into a perfect nugget.
Also beyond stoked the algorithm is running with this one. Long deserved!
Thank you man. Watched your latest about solo eps and it slapped. I think I need to watch the bear…..
@@spectacles-dm Thanks man! And yes, highly recommend
It’s so good I can’t believe it doesn’t have millions of views, especially given the timing
I just love the thought of Oppenheimer knowing more about nuclear bombs yet not telling or revealing everything.
He’s a hero and should be honored. He had integrity if people totally understand him and don’t jump to criticize. Simply a brilliant good man.
Unfortunately the McCarthy of that era was just building his power & reputation (of imposing fear) just as is the McCarthy of this era.
Oppenheimer was too obvious and easy a target, just as Rep. Adam Schiff is today. We cannot let today’s McCarthy ruin his target. Schiff is desperately needed in the Senate.
@@Ipbulldog I don’t understand how Schiff is needed in the Senate. He’s a despicable liar in my opinion.
@@Ipbulldog Crazy how so many Americans still fall for so much fearmongering still of just different people
@@GazingTrandoshan that's clear, that's why trump was president, fearmongering is effective
I wouldn’t call him a hero nor a villain, he have discovered a bomb that could lead into a destruction of human race, I’m pretty sure he discovered the bomb to end the war but he would have an awareness that creating such powerful destruction bomb wouldn’t make him a hero
This is what the movie was really about. The bomb was just a minor part of the story.
the caption at 17:41 for the music took me out LOL
you guys are incredible, thanks for this
really thought he was at least 500k subs but then i could not believe a video of this quality had only 15 thousand, this dude is as good or even better than the Front and a decent bit more. You will reach a mil in no time with this quality of content
@16:23 Yooooo I got chills when you started to draw out theories and ending up explaining the structure of Fat Man and Little Boy
It seems clear that Oppenheimer was a reluctant genius-hero of unfortunate necessity for ending Japanese imperial conquest. However, he was disgracefully betrayed by the demagoguery of evil war-mongering American elites who saw a way to exploit his creation for fun-and-games, and wealth and power, far more than was necessary, and under the guise of more necessity for the good of mankind. A dangerous escalation gambit that "Oppie" was insightfully trying to prevent.
This is a pretty misguided opinion. He understood the entire time “his creation’s” use was not up to him. The construction of it was inevitable with or without him and it’s development prevented a major world war from breaking out and still does. His massive ego caused him to take on all the guilt of its use and act irrationally which prevented him from being part of the future of nuclear power.
“If you give make a weapon big enough, even yourself will be against it”- me at midnight for no reason at all
Subbed within 10 minutes. If this is sample of your content quality, I doubt I'll regret subscribing...Great job!
Great video, very slick production and pacing.
holy damn this has to be one of the best science videos i have ever seen
This documentary may be one of the strongest and most compelling stories I’ve seen on RUclips. Bravo.
The production quality of your videos just keeps getting better and better. Your content is on another level. I can’t wait to see what you put out next. I did get a much needed laugh when you called J. Edgar Hoover a certified lunatic. 😂
I can't tell you in words how thrilled I am with watching this video. It is absolutely spectacular. I will be awaiting further video from you.
amazing video. now a got a bigger knowledge of this historic event and a better understanding about the film thank you very much
How did I miss this channel 😭 its so good
From Phillip to Philip , I truly loved this incredible take on an explosive time in our history. It was the dawn of a new era, a new power; you bring great light to the dismissal of Oppenheimer.
It's not accurate that the scientists did not know if either bomb design would work. They did know that the uranium bomb would indeed work and for that reason it was never tested before it was dropped on Hiroshima. What they weren't sure of was whether the plutonium bomb would work. The test at Almagordo on July 16, 1945 was of the plutonium bomb. The test succeeded and the plutonium bomb was dropped on Nagasaki to observe the effects on the city and the people who lived there, since Japan was already defeated well before then.
Also, the the sketch of the uranium bomb is not quite correct. It was the female piece of uranium that was slammed by the canon into the male uranium component, not the other way around.
5:20 following up to my comment on the short, yeah the monologue feels much better in context here, to me, as a contrast to the more relaxed narration prior. I would just orefer the intensity of emotion (and maybe color contrast ;) ) turned down 10%. Excited to keep watching!
Yes, the on-camera narration IS animated, but with the humorous, quirky spin, I feel it works.
This fellow could be one of your favorite professors.
When it comes to America do we even have to ask why the various American governments throughout history do what they do?
What a superb video! We’ll done from every aspect. Thank you!!
Was anybody else watching this video thinking to themselves 'Wow this is really well done, this channel must have millions of subscribers', then you check the sub count and you're shocked to see 14k. The quality of this video and others on this channel gives me vibes of channels with 3+ million subscribers. Videos are very informative, but also introspective and easily digestible.
Honestly I thought I clicked on some sort of guest episode on Veritasium's channel at first. This is great!
I mean if it makes you feel any better, only a week later, the channel has more than double that amount of subs.
Important note about America's openness, it was mostly for more well off Jews and refugees, while tens of thousands of Jews seeking refuge in the United States, Britain, France and other such countries would not find it due to the closeminded attitude of these nations, and antisemitic sentiments present within their populations as well. There was an attempt to figure out what to do with the Jewish refugees through the Evian conference in 1938, yet it practically changed nothing.
You're story telling is excellent. After watching several of your videos decided to subscribe. Keep it up, betting on your success.
I can tell your documentary style is influenced by FortNine and I absolutely love it! Please keep it up, you will definitely grow your viewership.
Thought of them when we were planning the blackboard scene. Nice catch! Thanks for watching
F9 caught this too
@@spectacles-dm 26:38
@@515klrkillahoobie6F11 caught it first !
It reminds me of the Ghost recon wildlands clip scenes
First video I watch from your channel and let me tell you I love the format. thanks for sharing!
Is there an Oscars category for best short documentary?. What a brilliant documentary. Subscribed..
Truman called Oppenheimer a "crybaby".
James Byrnes was in the room, with Truman and Oppenheimer (in the feature film). Oliver Stone produced a 10 episode documentary, "The Untold History of the United States." Truman was not ready to succeed FDR. Byrnes influenced Truman heavily. Made Truman a fanatical anti-communist and Russo-phobe. Oppenheimer wanted to share the designs of the bombs, for humanitarian reasons. In Truman's mind, that made Oppenheimer a crybaby. (Stone's doc is good.)
@@daveclennon6997 Yeah bro lets share design of the most destructive weapon in history so far to an country that teamed up with Germany to carve up Europe and then refusing to give it up, imposing their will over people living there for decades to come. Which also happens to our ideological enemy
I'm sure it totally wouldn't backfire
"Humanitarian reasons" what a sick joke
I'm a Pole and Truman was just right and you accidentally proved it yourself
His remark about Oppenheimer being moron is completely justified
@@daveclennon6997absolutely false! Stone’s “history” are lies and exaggerations. And Truman was not an anti-communist fanatic. Truman was absolutely correct in recognizing that the Soviet Union was untrustworthy and insincere. They were never interested in peace.
@daveclennon6997 no, it was because Oppenheimer said he felt he had blood on his hands, even though he didn't have anything to do with what Truman did with the bomb.
@@tylerschwabrow6048 Maybe Truman despised Oppenheimer for both reasons: (1) Oppenheimer felt he had blood on his hands because he gave Truman this terrible weapon, not knowing how he would use it. (2) He didn't want his invention to cause more bloodshed, so he proposed sharing the designs with other nations, believing that if many nations had the bomb, none would be foolish enough to use it.
Great video, I have a feeling this one is going to blow up (😅). I loved the in-person segments and audio clips especially.
24:40 It says a lot that scientists were so much more articulate and well - rounded intellectually in those days ...
Not really these people still exist today in greater abundance, but they do not float to the headlines anymore.
They exist and numerically there are more educated people, but take a look at Humanities these days; therefore I doubt well-rounded and genuinely articlate are easy to find among scientists@@BobBob-lz3yb
Not exactly true. There’s a culture of fear imposed by the ideologues in bureaucratic positions of power who give ideological purity tests and demand EDI proclamations and fealty to the mob before approving their grants. What equity has to do with cutting edge science, you can decide for yourself.
You know Pop Pop, there are a number of adjectives that describe the insistence on a superior past, but I doubt you’re familiar with words like atavistic because it’s rarely found in dogmatic rags like Ignite Your Faith (R.I.P. 2009), and it contains more than 2 syllables.
You may now finish your prune juice and return to your Bill O’Reilly bathroom reader, putz.
God your channel is so underrated.
Agreed!
This was excellent.
Thank you .
Nicely done. Thanks for the history lesson. It was quite engaging.
Excellent teaching skills yo, your mannerisms are spot on.
Very well consolidated and presented; never diverting from the story thread. Oppenheimer did a job exceedingly well using his subject knowledge and charm and managerial skills under great time pressure and scientific uncertainties. At that time the horrors of such weapons could not be estimated/visualized comprehensively, hence all that political backlash...
This was a really great watch, thank you!
An American Leader whose genius saved a Million American casualties if we had had to fight (in President Truman's Words) "A series of Okinawa's from one end of Japan to the other." The American Nation we know today would never exist without Robert Oppenheimer's overwhelming contribution to the American War Effort.
yeah, no.
Japan was close to capitulation already, the bomb was a perverse experiment and unessasarry as many others have said.
And that's a good thing?
amazing video, incredibly underrated channel
Bravo, Thank You for your work. Subscribed.
absolutely incredible video
We Americans were trusted with a lot of power and we just out here fuckin it off.
That message from OG Oppenheimer himself was amazing. Thank you for your video , I really enjoyed it.
We’ve done a pretty good job relative to what other nations would have done with what we have.
It all goes to shet anyway
@@bloodaonadeline8346 oh sure, world has houndreds of trillions in debt, wealth is in hands of the 1%, most workers live like slaves, barely getting by to pay all the bills, great job, what a prosperity... If your contry didnt have the corrupted media giants and the truth was out there, Russia is way better country to live in than the US, I would rather live under putin than under the pathetic, mostly demented, geriatric white house..
@@bloodaonadeline8346nope
@@bloodaonadeline8346Oh you did a good job? Never managed to get a disarmament agreement with Russia and now you have prepped a big fucking firework that can destroy the world by a hair trigger. thanks a lot.
I recently completed the Audible book "American Prometheus". If you're interested in Oppenheimer (and/or the McCarthy era), it's really a fascinating read/listen.
What a brilliant documentary. Subscribed.
Came across your channel today. Awesome stuff!
This channel is massively underrated. Great work
what an excellent production!
The movie makes it very clear Oppenheimer was persecuted as an act of revenge by the head of the AEC. This person used his position to investigate Oppenheimer and then when Oppenheimer didn't resign he used an underhanded lawyer who denied Oppenheimer's lawyer access to information because it was classified.
The base at the start is awesome
808 SUB reverbed lmao
This video was informative and excellent. Thanks 🙏🏻 for airing it.
Such a well done upload you have my sub!
This is incredibly good. Thank you.
15:21 This is a common misconception. The larger hollow cylinder of U235 was fired at the smaller target cylinder, not the other way around. This wasn't public knowledge until a couple decades ago so a lot of diagrams of Little Boy have it backwards.
Great video as always. Please keep it up!
Because America cannot be the evil one. It's always someone else.
A fair, useful summary. It is indeed a most important story.
The Barbie movie didn’t go into as much detail about this as I would've liked
This video is so well made. Keep up the good work, great way to explain and tell stories. We can see the hard work✌️
Fantastic storytelling
Excellent production. Nice Oppenheimer get-up
In the video, you said, you do not know what the J in oppenheimer full name stands for. In the American Prometheus book, I remember reading the "J" stands for his father name Julius.
It was really more of a joke, but the truth is that it's really not clear. Probably in reality it was meant to stand for Julius, however his birth certificate only said "J," so legally it stood for nothing! It's conceivable, given his upbringing and education, that his parents were the type to not want him to be named directly after his father, so it may have been intentionally open to interpretation...
Thanks for watching and commenting :)
Startling to hear the song Turncoat (a fitting name for a video about Oppenheimer) playing. I can’t believe it’s been almost five years since Unus Annus.
I remember seeing this for the first time and being absolutely flabbergasted
What an amazing & brilliant short video, Also as the wonderful storytelling, knowledge & effort has been made through the entire process but amused didn't see the documentary moves up to the sky interms of viewing, subscribe etc but surely will be highest viewing channel in the future. Ones again Thank you though
bruh why is your channel so smol, this quality is like atleast a million-tier ! Also outstanding video, came across this after watching the movie.
Well gawwd damn! I wasn't expecting this to be probably the best short documentary on here on RUclips on this subject. While at the same time, showing very accurately the dangerous consequences when government gets in the way of the proven ways of the scientific method.
Excellent work. His words are needed more now than ever.
Thank you for sharing.
Appreciated, liked, subscribed.... Thankyou
"The inquiry was more reminiscent of a Soviet show trial...", ehm, no, it was very much reminiscent of a good old american witch hunt trial
In fact, the first project to make an atomic bomb was started in the UK in 1940 and the Manhattan Project took the scientists from that, then after the war kept the secrets developed there and refused to share them with the originating country.
why would they, they paid for the scientist's labor, after that what they do with the finished product and with whom they share their knowledge is for the US to decide
@@mr.p215 If the British government had taken that attitude, there would have been no Manhattan Project.
His first name was Julius named after his father but was known in the family as Robert.
This video is very informative and has a really high quality, only wished this came out before finishing my school project about the atomic bomb
Absolutely excellent video. Only 11,000 subscribers? That will hopefully grow very quickly.
You deserve it 👍
Excellent narration and presentation.
Moral of this... the government isn't your friend
Not true. "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
Now how is your syphilis today"? I'll get to helping you as soon as I'm done helping these little native American children".
Insanely well-done video! I'm shocked this doesn't have more views. Insanely well-done video! I'm shocked this doesn't have more views.
BOY! Oppenheimer's words ring so true. More so now than ever !!!
I cant watch the video because I keep restarting to hear the PURE BLISS of that opening sound 🔥🔥
The worst thing about betrayal is which never came from strangers……..
*enemies
To correct things at 16:00 , The reason they had two ideas was completely practical. The gun-type worked well for uranium because it is more stable than plutonium but there was not enough to make more than one bomb. Uranium was plentiful relatively speaking because much less was needed. But a gun-type bomb could not be made with plutonium because it would go critical before the projected piece hit the accepting piece. Thus the implosion method was proposed. It was not because they were just testing different ideas.