HHC 2011: The HP 12C: Why Has it Lasted 30 Years?

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  • Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
  • HHC 2011, HP Handheld Conference, Sept. 24-25, 2011, San Diego, CA: Dennis Harms presents "The HP 12C: Why Has it Lasted 30 Years?".

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  • @effychase62
    @effychase62 3 года назад +14

    I've had my USA made HP-12C since 1987. Got it for my college level finance courses and practically mastered all its functions. I still use the HP-12C almost every day. From routine functions to finance. I especially the appreciate the various "Date" calculation functions.

  • @MAURICZZIO1
    @MAURICZZIO1 7 лет назад +8

    The best calculator in the universe. I purchase my I first on 1981, dent with the years doing Mortgages and Real Estate I purchased 6 during all these years. This is a big lesson to the manufactures of cellulars phones which are made to fail once your contract is up. Thanks HPC12 you made My life easy during all this years

  • @gmcenroe
    @gmcenroe 8 лет назад +8

    I am a chemist and I have an 11C in the lab and a 12C in my office, a few other vintage HP calculators at home.

  • @Bruster1010
    @Bruster1010 9 лет назад +4

    Brilliant video, my hp48G sadly broke last week - 22years old & used nearly every day - just looking on line for some info on the hp50 I got yesterday and found this.
    HP's really are the best calculator you can buy - just a shame you can't still get new 48's

    • @N269
      @N269 3 года назад +1

      Not affiliated, but have a look at SwissMicros.

  • @kbj76
    @kbj76 12 лет назад +7

    The two calculators that I own are the HP 12c and the HP 50g. I love them!!

  • @iamkevin23
    @iamkevin23 10 лет назад +5

    I've had mine since 89 and it still works fine. I have never changed the batteries. I am sure of it because I started thinking after about 6 or 7 years of using it that it was odd that the batteries haven't ran down from a lot of usage and although I rarely use it now and then for the last ten years, the batteries are working and in good shape.

  • @adumont
    @adumont 3 года назад +1

    After watching this video you made me want to find and buy one! Damn. I don't have any Voyager in my collection. Great testimony video, love its authenticity.

  • @bngr_bngr
    @bngr_bngr 6 лет назад +5

    I needed a case for my 11c. I looked on ebay and found a 12c with case for $7. The calculator was not working. When I got it, I put in new batteries, reset it, and it works. The calculator is near mint. Ive had my 11c since the 80's.

  • @pedrovalenzuelapiffaut1038
    @pedrovalenzuelapiffaut1038 3 года назад +1

    Great calculator and great presentation

  • @johndillard7625
    @johndillard7625 8 лет назад +14

    The ones HP built here in the U.S. will last 30 years or longer, but the ones they make today in China are lucky to last 30 weeks.

  • @ElPasoTubeAmps
    @ElPasoTubeAmps 10 лет назад +1

    Enjoyed your presentation - thank you for posting.

  • @canadianmudkipz
    @canadianmudkipz 11 лет назад +2

    hp11c and hp12c... best calculators I ever owned. I still have the hp12c, the hp11c got stolen by an "admirer" during a party.
    I also tried other famous ones like an early Casio (I forgot the name, but if you did a 0 /o division it started a chronometer function), & the TI-59 from Texas Instruments... let's just say that even though the build quality was as good as HP (Casio in Japan, TI built in the USA), both interfaces left a bit to be desired. So I returned them to the store.

  • @AR-mm6so
    @AR-mm6so 8 лет назад +2

    The new ones aren't the same as the ones built 20 years ago. I bought one for my house 5 years ago with very light use (used less than 100 times). Turned it on today and only half the numbers show up on the LCD screen. Looked around to see if there was a fix; apparently this is a very very very common problem with the newer calculators. Mine from high school is still ticking, but the product they make today isn't the same.

  • @peterhuss9985
    @peterhuss9985 10 лет назад +10

    I stumbled upon this video, started watching and slowly realized I am watching a presentation by a God of his realm.
    And he saved the source code. On punch cards (hand written)! With comments!!
    Best line: "I have all the - uh...Dr. Bill Kahan's descriptions of the algorithms - probably priceless (audience makes "oh" and "ah" sounds in reverence)".
    Kahan!!!!!

    • @HelenoPaiva
      @HelenoPaiva 6 лет назад +1

      Peter Huss I’m ignorant-sorry- who is dr. Bill kahan?

    • @MarquisDeSang
      @MarquisDeSang 2 года назад

      Why is this source code not public yet? Nothing in there is relevant to modern world, but could benefit our knowledge of history of computer. Nobody cares about performance or memory size anymore, most stuff is programmed in Javascript nowadays.

    • @gcolombelli
      @gcolombelli Год назад +2

      ​@@HelenoPaivamathematician and computer scientist, he worked on the Voyager series calculators and wrote some of the documentation as well. That's the main mind behind the IEEE 754 and 854 standards for floating point number arithmetic. This guy is a living legend.

    • @HelenoPaiva
      @HelenoPaiva Год назад +1

      @@gcolombelli thanks! It’s been 5 years since I studied this topic. I still record most of the knowledge. Good!

  • @marcel911
    @marcel911 7 лет назад +5

    I think the design of the 12C is beautiful. The landscape layout makes it different to many other calculators and the gold coloured areas give it a real class. You can imagine Bill Gates using one of these, there is nothing better. My 1983 model is still going strong.

  • @deusimperator
    @deusimperator 9 лет назад +2

    I have my 28s for over 25 years... best ever made

    • @tallswede80
      @tallswede80 4 года назад

      battery door is a disaster

    • @deusimperator
      @deusimperator 4 года назад

      @@tallswede80 Both mine 28s have cracked battery doors

    • @tallswede80
      @tallswede80 4 года назад +1

      @@deusimperator
      Very shitty design. Good calculator but they fucked it up.

  • @FuZhixiang
    @FuZhixiang 8 лет назад

    I'm happy that I'm using 12C, building for last not only physically.

  • @Homer19521
    @Homer19521 11 месяцев назад

    My 12C is starting to bleed at the top of the LCD display. Any replacements available?

  • @tallswede80
    @tallswede80 4 года назад +1

    are the videos he refers to still available anywhere? That site does not exist on the HP site anymore.

  • @biffy7
    @biffy7 8 лет назад +2

    Oh, what I would give to read the source code, WITH comments!

  • @canadianmudkipz
    @canadianmudkipz 11 лет назад

    I have a HP12C 27 yrs old and it's perfect... did u get it replaced?
    I also had an HP11C since University, and it lasted over 25 yrs until an "admirer" stole it form my house.

  •  8 лет назад +1

    HP in 70/80 best calculaters. I ow a 41c, 12c, 15c... Since 1981....

  • @MarquisDeSang
    @MarquisDeSang 2 года назад +2

    You mean 40 years?

  • @1VBURSEY
    @1VBURSEY 4 года назад

    Is it possible to illustrate a deferred payment (5 months for example) on a installment?

  • @user-fl4wn9dn2c
    @user-fl4wn9dn2c 8 лет назад +5

    lasted 30 years because it is the best made :)

  • @eno88
    @eno88 2 года назад +1

    I ask the same thing about myself. My 12C is in better shape than I am.

  • @stephencarter3423
    @stephencarter3423 3 года назад

    How long will lump sum last

  • @rng1160
    @rng1160 11 лет назад

    Hi everyone. Does the 12c limited edition (30 year) have a display that blink when you press PV, FV etc? The platinum edition does not, but the original does. Also, how is the key of the limited edition? Thanks

  • @fromthebeginning1
    @fromthebeginning1 3 года назад

    Anyone recall if there is a backlight in the display? I remember one but I can’t seem to find/remember how to do it.

  • @biffy7
    @biffy7 8 лет назад +1

    At the end Dennis should have extended his arm and dropped the microphone. Boom.

  • @mingming9604
    @mingming9604 4 года назад

    i still have the 42S, 28S

  • @fabianoopadeiro5210
    @fabianoopadeiro5210 9 лет назад

    12c ou 17b?

  • @MrHunterhsu8
    @MrHunterhsu8 12 лет назад

    weird,actually my 12C keypad is broken down within 6 months

  • @DerekDavis213
    @DerekDavis213 Год назад

    Today, an excellent HP-42S emulator is available for Android phones. And HP 12C emulators too.
    In 2024, there is no reason to buy or use HP calculator hardware anymore. It's all on the smartphone now.

    • @mitchyoung93
      @mitchyoung93 5 месяцев назад

      Tactile feel. Immediate availability without futzing around opening aps. Battery life .

    • @DerekDavis213
      @DerekDavis213 5 месяцев назад

      @@mitchyoung93 smartphones are charged daily, battery life is *never* a problem.
      HP emulator on a phone is *much* faster than the ancient HP cpu.
      HP emulator on a phone works great in lower light situations, LCD display on the ancient HP calculator cannot compare to that.

    • @MrNoahTall
      @MrNoahTall 3 месяца назад

      This video is history. Some of us still enjoy dedicated hardware. I still buy old HP calculators and modern Swiss Micros devices. It's foolish to imagine that everyone should see the world the way you see it.

  • @georgemaxi332
    @georgemaxi332 11 лет назад +3

    There is an Android application costs $5.5 and you will find this on your Mobil phone so you do not have to carry 2 sets in your pocket.

    • @nsavernon
      @nsavernon 9 лет назад +7

      +George Maxi true.... but when test time comes you have to put your phone away :-(

    • @HelenoPaiva
      @HelenoPaiva 6 лет назад

      There are several iOS apps that emulate this calculator for free.

  • @jchavins
    @jchavins Год назад

    12C isn't a scientific calculator.....it can be bought for about $10 and that's over priced if you have a phone or a computer.......I found a 25c emulator for my phone....its a ton better than a 12c which I bought by mistake. It was listed as a scientific calculator.....scammed me....I have a HP55 emulator on my computers.

    • @gcolombelli
      @gcolombelli Год назад +1

      If you want a scientific model, try the 15C, if you want something more modern, there's the 42S, the 28C/S, the 48S/G and the 50G. On Android there's Free42 as a great HP-42S simulator and the paid Plus42 that's a greatly enhanced version with a bunch of modern features. On the TI side there's the 89 and 89 Tinanium that are really great, but sadly lack RPN.

    • @MrNoahTall
      @MrNoahTall 3 месяца назад +1

      It's your fault. The 12C is marketed by the manufacturer as a financial calculator. The 11C and 15C are scientific calculators. The 16C is a programmer's calculator. I have them all. Also: This is history. Not an advertisement.

  • @jonalexanderfilms
    @jonalexanderfilms 2 года назад

    This posting like many others like it are nothing more than propaganda you go to a car dealer or you get a loan from a bank and they’re using the 365/ 365 method there is nothing in the manual about doing a payment based on the 365/365 method, I guess this video is for baby boomers that are retired with a paid off house and a paid off car.