OH v. Dr. William Husel Trial Day 3 - Gregory Dresbach - Pharmacist Continues

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  • Опубликовано: 23 фев 2022
  • LIVE COVERAGE: OH v. Dr. William Husel Trial - Former Doctor Fentanyl Murders
    Happening In Court:
    Gregory Dresbach - Pharmacist
    An Ohio doctor was charged with 25 counts of murder on Wednesday for allegedly prescribing lethal doses of fentanyl to dying patients. Franklin County Prosecutor Ron O’Brien said that he has never seen a 25-count murder indictment in his career, adding that the doses Dr. William Husel allegedly ordered in the 25 deaths “could not support any legitimate medical purpose.”
    Husel, 43, was a doctor for the Mount Carmel Health System; he was fired at the end of 2018 after an internal investigation found wrongdoing.
    Husel faces a potential sentence of 15 years to life in prison for each count - if convicted.
    Husel’s lawyer Richard Blake claimed that, actually, “this is not a murder case.”
    “I can assure you there was never any attempt to euthanize anyone by Dr. Husel. At no time did he ever have the intent to euthanize anyone,” he said.
    Mount Carmel Health System, for its part, has said in a statement that it “will continue to implement meaningful changes throughout our system to ensure events like these never happen again.”
    The Columbus-based healthcare system also fired 20 other employees after an internal investigation found that patients received exorbitant amounts of Fentanyl. Even though nurses doled out-and pharmacists filled-Husel’s prescriptions, the focus of the criminal investigation remains on Husel, according to prosecutors.
    Mount Carmel President and CEO Ed Lamb said at the time of the investigation’s conclusion that “regardless of the reason the actions were taken, we take responsibility for the fact that the processes in place were not sufficient to prevent these actions from happening.” He added, “we’re doing everything to understand how this happened and what we need to do to ensure that it never happens again.”
    The State Medical Board of Ohio suspended Husel’s license in January because the doctor failed “to meet acceptable standards regarding the selection of drugs, violations of the minimal standards of care and failing to cooperate in a board’s investigation,” the board said.
    Mount Carmel has settled at least five wrongful death suits since it fired Husel. Two of the suits that were settled involved deaths of 73-year-old women. Sherry White died in 2014 after receiving two, 100-microgram doses of fentanyl within 16 minutes of each other, the suit alleged. But White’s death certificate said that she died of septic shock from a urinary tract infection (UTI).
    The suit in the death of Peggy Francis alleged that she died six minutes after she was given a 200-microgram dose of fentanyl. The death certificate said that Francis-who was being treated for kidney cancer-died from septic shock caused by a UTI.
    Each of the lawsuits allege that health care providers ignored excessive painkiller warnings from an electronic medical system or that the system failed to work in the first place. After Mount Carmel fired Husel in December, the health care provider updated its guidelines that a usual adult dosage of fentanyl should be between 25 and 100 micrograms, according to an Ohio Department of Health inspection report. Husel faces an additional 19 wrongful-death suits after another eight were settled, according to NBC.
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  • @chronicinokla
    @chronicinokla 2 года назад +3

    As a veteran that became I'll while serving, denied benefits by veterans dept, who has been chronically ill for 33 years I can tell you carrying the some of the classified most painful diagnosis, I've had to absolutely fight for pain relief. I still after all these years live at a 4 or 5 on pain scale. Those are the good days. I get denied medication because insurance won't cover cost and denied medication because drs are really scrutinized when they prescribed it. Or due to other medications it's too risky to prescribe together. I can't imagine how horrible it will feel that at my most horrific end of life pain I could receive LESS than what this wonderful Dr did. Because being a person that has years of tolerance to different types of meds I am one who would need a higher dose to be affective. And if I must endure it simply because some guidelines stated okay but in palliative care on fentynal there is no guidance. This Dr is not guilty of anything.
    I would like to hope that my Dr at my worst would do as his experience, certification,and degrees tell him to do. Which is first do no harm and to treat patient with care. Basing his prescribed amount on my history and current circumstances. Therefore relieving my pain. To be a physician and have to watch someone in horrible pain just because you might lose your license , is why so many are choosing different careers. Moving away from pain medication prescribing.

  • @cambrie7946
    @cambrie7946 2 года назад +3

    These poor prosecutors. Having to deal with all this nonsense 🙄

  • @jennzimmer8407
    @jennzimmer8407 2 года назад +29

    I feel both of these pharmacists (Talon & Greg) were/are very professional, knowledgeable, and ethical in their jobs. And they both seem very honest. 👍🏼
    I feel like the hospitals poor system for drug administration failed both these pharmacists and the doctor. Obviously the pharmacy employees and the doctor are scapegoats. 😑 Large companies with big lawyers and lots of money get away with a lot of 💩. I think the state should be suing the hospital itself, but it’s always easier to charge the “little guy”.

    • @nicolepizzino156
      @nicolepizzino156 2 года назад +7

      i just hope that the jury's eyes are as open as ours.

    • @erinm3980
      @erinm3980 2 года назад +4

      Couldn’t agree more

    • @cambrie7946
      @cambrie7946 2 года назад +3

      No, the doctor is completely in the wrong. Please put him on jail. He clearly tried to play God here

  • @roadiern
    @roadiern 2 года назад +17

    Why was Talon fired and this guy wasn’t? Talon was clearly the fall guy.

    • @jennzimmer8407
      @jennzimmer8407 2 года назад +7

      I thought the same thing…maybe because he was the “whistleblower” on what eventually became a faulty system within the hospital. I would think he would have had a good reason to sue for unlawful termination, but maybe he just wanted to get as far away from that establishment as possible. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @maryb6672
      @maryb6672 2 года назад +9

      @@jennzimmer8407 Oh no, he’s suing them right now. (Talon). For wrongful termination

    • @jennzimmer8407
      @jennzimmer8407 2 года назад +5

      @@maryb6672 oh good! Thanks for the update!! I’d like to watch THAT trial! 😮

    • @maryb6672
      @maryb6672 2 года назад +6

      @@jennzimmer8407 So would I! Unfortunately, based on the culpability of this hospital, their goal will be to reach a settlement w/him-exactly what they’ve done with the majority of the families who’s loved ones passed away. They know that their system (from upper management down to the RN’s who were able to override the meds), was an utter disaster. I imagine it’s a matter of Talon & the hospital reaching an agreement on the amount. Last I checked, the hospital had paid out between $10-$15 million in settlements, w/many still pending.

    • @jr7845
      @jr7845 2 года назад +1

      @@maryb6672 he wants to clear allegations against his good name

  • @kellijanssen1171
    @kellijanssen1171 2 года назад +14

    Without knowing what stage of life these patients were in, I feel it is impossible to second guess what the dr did. As someone who just had to go through this with my dad, we as a family chose comfort care. I don’t know if that is the case in any of these patients, but these pharmacists are describing end of life comfort care to me.

    • @junkandthangs
      @junkandthangs 2 года назад

      with permission from whom

    • @theroxygirl731
      @theroxygirl731 2 года назад +7

      Many of the patients I've read about (12) were receiving pallative care for illnesses such as cancer, kidney failure, heart attacks, complications from diabetes, brain death due to accident, pnemonia and hypothermia. Most (that I have read) had DNR orders and had recently been removed from life support.

    • @jr7845
      @jr7845 2 года назад +3

      Yes I tend to agree, end of life care is usually a lot of strong pain relief

    • @jr7845
      @jr7845 2 года назад +1

      @@theroxygirl731 probably requiring a lot of frequent medication

  • @nickmcdonald6731
    @nickmcdonald6731 2 года назад +25

    I don't really get how they can prove he killed someone who was being taken off life support...

    • @HB-qx7je
      @HB-qx7je 2 года назад +10

      I agree. These were end of life patients that were being terminally extubated, so they are to be made comfortable to pass by all means necessary. Heartbreaking for the families, and all the healthcare providers that were performing their job.

    • @YMD444
      @YMD444 2 года назад +11

      Right👍🏽 Good thing hospice workers are not put on trial. If you have ever been around an end of life situation- they basically refuse them food and water and finish them off with drugs, it’s just how it is. Sometimes it makes no sense to watch people suffer for weeks on end.

    • @kellijanssen1171
      @kellijanssen1171 2 года назад +9

      I agree. We just had to go through this with my dad in June. Had a major stroke the entire left side of his brain was dead. He never spoke another word after the stroke. We chose to not make him suffer. He passed peacefully in hospice care after 6 days. It was the hardest 6 days of our life but we got to sit with him the entire time and he was as comfortable as the doctors and nurses could make him. The nurses cried as hard as we did when he passed. They truly cared about him and us.

    • @erinm3980
      @erinm3980 2 года назад +1

      @@kellijanssen1171 so sorry

    • @jr7845
      @jr7845 2 года назад

      @@kellijanssen1171 my condolences to you and your family

  • @dawnlove1014
    @dawnlove1014 2 года назад +14

    Well this fell apart quickly. This dr was in palliative care.... doses make sense now.

  • @kellijanssen1171
    @kellijanssen1171 2 года назад +12

    Defense just blew this testimony up. Makes prosecution look very deceptive.

  • @nicolepizzino156
    @nicolepizzino156 2 года назад +14

    i truly hope the dr takes the stand so that it will bring it home to the jury that he was justified in his careful and compassionate care of these patients.

    • @AJ-14.2
      @AJ-14.2 2 года назад +3

      Some of those patients weren’t terminally ill or whatever.

    • @DJ-hf1zo
      @DJ-hf1zo 2 года назад +2

      Lol! Yes he compassionately murdered them. Save me from this kind of compassion.

    • @nicolepizzino156
      @nicolepizzino156 2 года назад +3

      @@DJ-hf1zo glad you aren't on this jury

    • @DJ-hf1zo
      @DJ-hf1zo 2 года назад

      @@nicolepizzino156 that is funny as I thought the same thing about you.

    • @joanneevertz7163
      @joanneevertz7163 2 года назад

      I would like to know your thoughts now thar the trial is farther along. I am for the Dr. I don't want to die like my sister. It was horrible.

  • @roadiern
    @roadiern 2 года назад +29

    Dr. Husel NOT GUILTY!!!!!!

    • @croach2194
      @croach2194 2 года назад +8

      You can never be certain. A jury acquitted Curtis Reeves who could be seen on tape killing Oulsen and it was not in self-defence. I am scared that a rogue jury will do anything regardless of the testimony. I believe this should be a slam dunk acquittal.

    • @jennzimmer8407
      @jennzimmer8407 2 года назад +2

      @@croach2194 I just came from watching that trial as well and couldn’t believe they found him not guilty! Wow! 😟
      You are right, we never know what a jury is going to do. 😬

    • @song9119
      @song9119 2 года назад +5

      @@croach2194 Reeves was justified in the shooting of Chad, Chad bullied and acted in a threatening manner towards Mr & Mrs Reeves, and elderly couple.
      Did u watch the Reeves trial, and I mean the entire trial,??

    • @pelosishammer50
      @pelosishammer50 2 года назад +6

      @@song9119 yes i watched the entire trial and i disagree with you. Reeves was Not justified in shooting Chad Oulsen. Reeves was the bully retired cop with a huge ego and a chip on his shoulder. Maybe you should rewatch the trial.

    • @croach2194
      @croach2194 2 года назад +4

      @@song9119 I watched the entire trial. We now have two trials with two different verdicts so it is easy to see why we disagree.

  • @kathleenamatangelo3713
    @kathleenamatangelo3713 2 года назад

    I wonder if Gregory Dresbach was the guy with the disguised voice wearing a hoodie in the 4 part TV reporting on this back in the day?

  • @carolharr5203
    @carolharr5203 2 года назад +1

    Feel for the pharmacist. Doing the best in his job and being treated like s criminal

  • @Johnny1.0
    @Johnny1.0 2 года назад +6

    The more I watch the more I wonder if.....Good Barbers are in short supply out there.

  • @sandydame97
    @sandydame97 2 года назад +4

    One of the Dr's defense lawyer is Jose Baez. The same attorney who represented Casie Anthony.

    • @kimberlywilliams9462
      @kimberlywilliams9462 2 года назад +1

      He also got Aaron Hernandez off of his second murder conviction

  • @SWC44
    @SWC44 2 года назад

    WOW!!!!!!!!!!! LITTLE SHAKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @theroxygirl731
    @theroxygirl731 2 года назад +7

    I hope this guy isn't the one approving my medication if I ever need palliative care.
    I'm betting this guy still has his hall monitor vest from grade school.

    • @sydludwig1826
      @sydludwig1826 2 года назад +5

      Exactly. Dose me up if I’m dying.

    • @jr7845
      @jr7845 2 года назад

      Rude!

    • @sydludwig1826
      @sydludwig1826 2 года назад +2

      @JR What’s rude about these comments?

  • @paulmartinez6217
    @paulmartinez6217 2 года назад

    The asked at 1hour was not a question for a pharmacist that question is for a doctor to determine

    • @cambrie7946
      @cambrie7946 2 года назад

      No, it is not dude. Get a grip

    • @paulmartinez6217
      @paulmartinez6217 2 года назад +2

      @@cambrie7946 learn the law.. it's like asking a mechanic 2 explain a heart surgery... lmao.

    • @cambrie7946
      @cambrie7946 2 года назад

      @@paulmartinez6217 Huh?

  • @theroxygirl731
    @theroxygirl731 2 года назад +3

    Not as smug when the defense was asking the hard questions.