I was at the first performance for subscribers. When I tell you it is STUNNING….acoustics are tremendous, it’s unbelievably beautiful. Such a great experience as a concert-goer.
@@rodneyboehner3007yes they did work as there's actually a science behind all this with the Acoustics and the changing the structures and everything .
So happy for the NY Phil and NYC audiences and the entire music loving world!! It will transform this orchestra as they learn to play in an acoustic that helps them rather than being an obstacle. The hall is truly the largest instrument in the orchestra. It is long overdue. Bravi tutti!!
Allowing people to watch the concert on a screen in the lobby or pay for food at the restaurants is not "giving back." If they really wanted to give back to the community they displaced, why don't they do things like: 1. Provide the space and teachers for free music lessons at the hall for low income children 2. Donate instruments to schools in the surrounding areas 3. Give a certain number of free tickets per season to low income people or some of the children's families who are taking the lessons or are recipients of the instruments 4. Set up a program where members of the orchestra can mentor children of the community they displaced and, if the response to this is that they are already doing some of this or plan to, then why was that not covered in the story?
Wow they really paid back those thousands of people they wrongly evicted, destroying their neighborhood in the process, by allowing them to come buy a coffee and watch someone perform from the sidewalk. Yep, all even now!
Philharmonic Hall had impossible acoustics. Avery Fisher had an improved, but dry acoustic combined with the ambiance of an airplane hanger. And that horrible flat floor! This looks like a space that will actually be fun to be in. Now if they would just get TF rid of those god-awful cramped Philip Johnson public spaces of the opera house. Of course, before its renovation, the New York State (now Koch) theater may have been the coldest, ugliest performing arts space in the US. All in all, the original Lincoln Center designs were a flop--the worst the 60s had to offer. Thank God, they weren't the final word. Now fix the lobbies, stairs and washrooms of the gddm opera house. The theater is okay--ragged, but okay. but the rest of the place? Sheesh. No reason on earth for Met patrons to have to put up with it.
Spectacular! Kudos to David Geffen for bankrolling the effort, but let's not forget that it was Avery Fisher (hence for 6 decades it was called 'Avery Fisher Hall') who bankrolled the hall thru good and lean times. Perhaps it should be "David Geffen Masterpiece at Avery Fisher Hall"? Naw...too many words: David Geffen Hall it should be. Cheers
To date myself I remember as a young person of 19 or 20 (who had never been to a classical music live concert) being required by a university professor to attend at least 2 classical concerts in the era of the hanging acoustic panels. This was the late 1960's. The sound the string section made in that hall back then was so strange. A kind of dry rubbing noise I had never heard on any recording and never heard again. It blotted out the other parts of orchestra. The sound was different when I went back in the 80's after many of the earlier renovations were done. Now they finally seem to have gotten it right when I'm too old to go.
Well all I can say is that I hope that the sound has improved. It has been a nightmare ever since they opened. As I recall there were several previous attempts to fix it but to no avail. I recall going to hear the great Brazilian musician, Tom Jobim at Philharmonic hall in the late 1980's. It was very noticeable that the percussionists sounded like they were 2 or 3 beats behind the rest of the band. Hopefully the complete gutting of the space will fix things.
My Mother took me at 3 y/o to see Nutcracker Ballet in 1969 and in a quiet part I shouted out something that made everybody on stage & audience laugh. Now, I guess I can watch for free in lobby. I don't know if my shouting would make them laugh now though.
Hopefully, it will now work out for everyone. As to square and boxy - That description fits Symphony Hall in Boston, and its acoustics have been great from the day it opened in 1900.
They should have done this years ago. I would have been at those cafes watching the free performances. I remember the acoustics at Avery Fisher Hall were not very good.
Only for concerts that have amplified sound like jazz, or rock/pop. All classical music is performed in this hall without any amplification at all, whether the full NY Phil or a string quartet. What you hear is the sound they are making with no help from a mike or speaker.
Including hiring lawyers to go after anyone or anything who says negative things about him from what I just heard one another channel today that he is highly litigious . Actually I saw two different things that address this and one was a clip from Family Guy
So glad to hear the long anticipated renovation is a success! So many times I sat in the orchestra behind large, tall people and couldn't see the stage. The floor needed to be replaced and it has been given levels. And the extras - cafe, videos of performances - sound wonderful additions to what has alternatively been called Philharmonic Hall, Avery Fisher Hall, and now, deservedly, David Geffen Hall.
@@LogicNeedNotApply LMAO, it was entire funded by a private donation from Geffen. Less than 1.5% of the money that went into this came from the city (via taxes/taxpayers).
Very interesting! I hadn't heard about this. One thing I would say- is keep in mind pricepoints and the unspoken "rule" that keeps... those people that were displaced... out. Keep it fair. Don't re-gentrify... Love the new renovations though!
You mean well but appear not to know the scene.. Lincoln Center opened in the 1960's for God sake. The "displaced"? Dead and buried unless they were kids back then. Apart from a housing "project" (as New Yorkers call public housing) there for decades, everything else is hi-rise expensive private condos and rentals for affluent yuppies and new money bourgeoise. Middle class cannot afford to live there much less the poor. Re-gentrify? That happened by the 1980's and accelerated since. As to classical music, opera, and ballet, the audience has ALWAYS been from the more affluent and more educated class. That's just a fact of life. Besides, running all those separate halls and orchestras and musicians costs a lot. Lincoln Center has multiple performing spaces not just this new hall. They need those annual subscriptions, not just individual random ticket buyers.
Geffen can give his money. that is fine. but the hall should have been renamed after the man that first called attention to the mess when it opened in 1960's: The true great man that transformed the Philharmonic in the 1960's. It should be called LEONARD BERNSTEIN CONCERT HALL ! ! ! ! Interesting that the acoustic factors seem to borrow from the truely wonderful venue in Los Angeles: WALT DISNEY CONCERT HALL ! !
Yes, because putting in high-priced coffee shops & cafes, plus a large video wall really recognizes and addresses the social injustice that was done. RACISM IS SOLVED.
Thank you, David Pogue. Nice to see you here. One wonders if the renovation included Industrial Hygienists and air purifiers. COVID is airborne and new variants are spreading.
What did they do for the displaced people? nothing! Just another arts center so that student's who studied so-called classical music in conservatory can have a job. In a city that crated hip-hop out of the ashes of displacement.Also a city that helped with the development of jazz, punk, house, music. It was shameful to mention that they were giving back by letting the peasants sit out side and watch. Who are these places for.
I hope there are also donations Latino and Black non profit organizations in NYC that promote the arts in addition to the greater access to the hall as part of correcting the wrongs of the past.
One does not correct wrongs of the past. Almost all those people supposedly wronged are dead now anyway. What happened with the affected people? Where did they go? Never any mention of that.
There were no "wrongs". Dilapidated housing was demolished and the the owner replaced it with a music hall instead. If you want to house a bunch of poor people, go spend $100 million of your own money to build affordable housing that the city then rent regulates to the point where you won't even breakeven on your investment until 60 years after the fact. You can't afford that? Well then stop complaining.
Ah, it was so nice to see all the ‘poor ‘ folk coming back to their old neighborhood; begging the question as to where they went, and how much The intelligentsia helped them financially
But where can I find this information because I found two separate videos that hint that he has lawyers to remove any negative stories about him and that he is highly litigious and has sued a lot of people or has threatened to sue them when he doesn't feel what they said about him is the truth ... or maybe he knows they're telling the truth but he doesn't want the truth to get out to the public . I did hear about what happened to Laura Nyro but I'm trying to find out who else he did this to and although I'm hearing rumors , nobody's telling me where I can find the info or the names of those involved and I do want to know .
@@gardensofthegods Just search here for any documentaries on him. You don't need to explicitly see negative info about him. Just look at the price of his yacht. And realize that money came from the royalties on all of the other artists' music he collected revenue on for decades.
More than $200,000 per seat. Each seat would have to be used for 2000 concerts to bring the cost down to $100 per seat per concert. Music for the elite. Suppose this money had been used instead to promote teaching of music in schools.
Nothing at all about music. And 'music' is listening to the wrong people. And the wrong people are going to continue making their noise until music has left.
No explanation - in typical CBS news fashion(& let’s not neglect reporting other American networks) - what way specifically Lincoln center’s giving back to the community it hurt when it came about! You report really stinks 😷
Didn’t you hear? These poor people can trek across the city to the upscale bar & lounge where I’m sure they’ll feel totally comfortable and buy a drink.
No one cares. It's a music hall, it's for music now, not providing some safe space for you to cry in because the previous landlord sold the land to a new owner who wanted a music hall instead of slums.
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I was at the first performance for subscribers. When I tell you it is STUNNING….acoustics are tremendous, it’s unbelievably beautiful. Such a great experience as a concert-goer.
Shoe box auditoriums are the best. I seriously doubt the fixes actually worked.
@@rodneyboehner3007yes they did work as there's actually a science behind all this with the Acoustics and the changing the structures and everything .
Love seeing you every Sunday Jane Pauley!
Sad no credit was given to the architects and engineers.
It’s Tod Williams Billie Tsien Architects ! They have done lots of big projects including the Obama Presidential Center in Chicago.
Looks a lot like the Kimmel Center in Philly
So happy for the NY Phil and NYC audiences and the entire music loving world!! It will transform this orchestra as they learn to play in an acoustic that helps them rather than being an obstacle. The hall is truly the largest instrument in the orchestra. It is long overdue. Bravi tutti!!
Absolutely beautiful!
Allowing people to watch the concert on a screen in the lobby or pay for food at the restaurants is not "giving back."
If they really wanted to give back to the community they displaced, why don't they do things like:
1. Provide the space and teachers for free music lessons at the hall for low income children
2. Donate instruments to schools in the surrounding areas
3. Give a certain number of free tickets per season to low income people or some of the children's families who are taking the lessons or are recipients of the instruments
4. Set up a program where members of the orchestra can mentor children of the community they displaced
and, if the response to this is that they are already doing some of this or plan to, then why was that not covered in the story?
Yep, that “giving back” was utterly ridiculous.
Wow they really paid back those thousands of people they wrongly evicted, destroying their neighborhood in the process, by allowing them to come buy a coffee and watch someone perform from the sidewalk. Yep, all even now!
Philharmonic Hall had impossible acoustics. Avery Fisher had an improved, but dry acoustic combined with the ambiance of an airplane hanger. And that horrible flat floor! This looks like a space that will actually be fun to be in. Now if they would just get TF rid of those god-awful cramped Philip Johnson public spaces of the opera house. Of course, before its renovation, the New York State (now Koch) theater may have been the coldest, ugliest performing arts space in the US. All in all, the original Lincoln Center designs were a flop--the worst the 60s had to offer. Thank God, they weren't the final word. Now fix the lobbies, stairs and washrooms of the gddm opera house. The theater is okay--ragged, but okay. but the rest of the place? Sheesh. No reason on earth for Met patrons to have to put up with it.
Exciting! I plan to visit tomorrow 🙂Well, the lobby that is!
I was at the right place at the right time and ended up with a lot of the beechwood cutoffs from this project, I've been making workbenches out of it
Spectacular! Kudos to David Geffen for bankrolling the effort, but let's not forget that it was Avery Fisher (hence for 6 decades it was called 'Avery Fisher Hall') who bankrolled the hall thru good and lean times. Perhaps it should be "David Geffen Masterpiece at Avery Fisher Hall"? Naw...too many words: David Geffen Hall it should be.
Cheers
Honestly, sounds like the first few architects did a… bad job.
They built more seats than the original plan allowed because critics complained. The added seats made the acoustics not good.
To date myself I remember as a young person of 19 or 20 (who had never been to a classical music live concert) being required by a university professor to attend at least 2 classical concerts in the era of the hanging acoustic panels. This was the late 1960's. The sound the string section made in that hall back then was so strange. A kind of dry rubbing noise I had never heard on any recording and never heard again. It blotted out the other parts of orchestra.
The sound was different when I went back in the 80's after many of the earlier renovations were done. Now they finally seem to have gotten it right when I'm too old to go.
Well all I can say is that I hope that the sound has improved. It has been a nightmare ever since they opened. As I recall there were several previous attempts to fix it but to no avail. I recall going to hear the great Brazilian musician, Tom Jobim at Philharmonic hall in the late 1980's. It was very noticeable that the percussionists sounded like they were 2 or 3 beats behind the rest of the band. Hopefully the complete gutting of the space will fix things.
Bravo 👏
My Mother took me at 3 y/o to see Nutcracker Ballet in 1969 and in a quiet part I shouted out something that made everybody on stage & audience laugh. Now, I guess I can watch for free in lobby. I don't know if my shouting would make them laugh now though.
Nice harmonica solo. Bravo!
I'm so glad they were able to fix the Hall; what an effort.
The hall looks beautiful. Waiting to see what it looks and sounds like.
This moved me to tears. What an amazing renovation!
Great job!!!
Hopefully, it will now work out for everyone. As to square and boxy - That description fits Symphony Hall in Boston, and its acoustics have been great from the day it opened in 1900.
It looks amazing!
good on David!
I wonder if David still has the golden harmonica he got from Craig Ferguson.
I would love to see any kind of performance with the new acoustics in Lincoln center.
Sounds the start of something new
They should have done this years ago. I would have been at those cafes watching the free performances. I remember the acoustics at Avery Fisher Hall were not very good.
Did they use any sound or mixing consoles to enhance the sound also?
Only for concerts that have amplified sound like jazz, or rock/pop. All classical music is performed in this hall without any amplification at all, whether the full NY Phil or a string quartet. What you hear is the sound they are making with no help from a mike or speaker.
@@shawnhampton8503 Thank you
Time to be back in NYC?
Awesome with feathers sound!
Very little effort for the poor people deprived of their homes.
They didn't own the land. Their landlord sold the apartments and the new owner didn't want to manage slums. Tough luck. That's life, get over it.
so you played lincoln center now!
Where’s the pipe organ?! It would cost a few more millions. 😂
Nothing money can’t fix.
Including hiring lawyers to go after anyone or anything who says negative things about him from what I just heard one another channel today that he is highly litigious .
Actually I saw two different things that address this and one was a clip from Family Guy
Ten percent for the big guy
So glad to hear the long anticipated renovation is a success! So many times I sat in the orchestra behind large, tall people and couldn't see the stage. The floor needed to be replaced and it has been given levels. And the extras - cafe, videos of performances - sound wonderful additions to what has alternatively been called Philharmonic Hall, Avery Fisher Hall, and now, deservedly, David Geffen Hall.
Not a success
Subpar everything. Paid mostly by taxpayers who would never see a anything there #patheticnycspending #thehomelesssleeponthosesteps
@@LogicNeedNotApply LMAO, it was entire funded by a private donation from Geffen. Less than 1.5% of the money that went into this came from the city (via taxes/taxpayers).
Very interesting! I hadn't heard about this.
One thing I would say- is keep in mind pricepoints and the unspoken "rule" that keeps... those people that were displaced... out. Keep it fair. Don't re-gentrify...
Love the new renovations though!
You mean well but appear not to know the scene.. Lincoln Center opened in the 1960's for God sake. The "displaced"? Dead and buried unless they were kids back then. Apart from a housing "project" (as New Yorkers call public housing) there for decades, everything else is hi-rise expensive private condos and rentals for affluent yuppies and new money bourgeoise. Middle class cannot afford to live there much less the poor. Re-gentrify? That happened by the 1980's and accelerated since.
As to classical music, opera, and ballet, the audience has ALWAYS been from the more affluent and more educated class. That's just a fact of life. Besides, running all those separate halls and orchestras and musicians costs a lot. Lincoln Center has multiple performing spaces not just this new hall. They need those annual subscriptions, not just individual random ticket buyers.
@@jackmorrison7379 yes, new york as a whole has move out of the reach of even middle class people.
Aptly stated, Jack.
Geffen can give his money. that is fine. but the hall should have been renamed after the man that first called attention to the mess when it opened in 1960's: The true great man that transformed the Philharmonic in the 1960's. It should be called
LEONARD BERNSTEIN CONCERT HALL ! ! ! !
Interesting that the acoustic factors seem to borrow from the truely wonderful venue in Los Angeles:
WALT DISNEY CONCERT HALL ! !
was never a huge fan of lincoln hall, this just reinforces that decision.
Contributed $100m in exchange for naming rights and kicking out the original name.
So you think they'll be calling it Geffen Concert Hall or Geffen Center pretty soon ?
Yes, because putting in high-priced coffee shops & cafes, plus a large video wall really recognizes and addresses the social injustice that was done. RACISM IS SOLVED.
Thank you, David Pogue. Nice to see you here.
One wonders if the renovation included Industrial Hygienists and air purifiers. COVID is airborne and new variants are spreading.
What did they do for the displaced people? nothing! Just another arts center so that student's who studied so-called classical music in conservatory can have a job. In a city that crated hip-hop out of the ashes of displacement.Also a city that helped with the development of jazz, punk, house, music. It was shameful to mention that they were giving back by letting the peasants sit out side and watch. Who are these places for.
Cool story, no one cares...
I hope there are also donations Latino and Black non profit organizations in NYC that promote the arts in addition to the greater access to the hall as part of correcting the wrongs of the past.
One does not correct wrongs of the past. Almost all those people supposedly wronged are dead now anyway. What happened with the affected people? Where did they go? Never any mention of that.
There were no "wrongs". Dilapidated housing was demolished and the the owner replaced it with a music hall instead. If you want to house a bunch of poor people, go spend $100 million of your own money to build affordable housing that the city then rent regulates to the point where you won't even breakeven on your investment until 60 years after the fact. You can't afford that? Well then stop complaining.
Ah, it was so nice to see all the ‘poor ‘ folk coming back to their old neighborhood; begging the question as to where they went, and how much The intelligentsia helped them financially
David Geffen is a terrible person for the money he made off of so many artists. And he’s a billionaire for it.
But where can I find this information because I found two separate videos that hint that he has lawyers to remove any negative stories about him and that he is highly litigious and has sued a lot of people or has threatened to sue them when he doesn't feel what they said about him is the truth ... or maybe he knows they're telling the truth but he doesn't want the truth to get out to the public .
I did hear about what happened to Laura Nyro but I'm trying to find out who else he did this to and although I'm hearing rumors , nobody's telling me where I can find the info or the names of those involved and I do want to know .
@@gardensofthegods Just search here for any documentaries on him. You don't need to explicitly see negative info about him. Just look at the price of his yacht. And realize that money came from the royalties on all of the other artists' music he collected revenue on for decades.
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they basically made lincoln center into disney hall
...YOU WILL NEVER, NEVER BE BETTER THAN SYMPHONY HALL IN BOSTON....EVEN THOUGH YOU SPENT MILLIONS....YOU CAN'T DUPLICATE PERFECTION.....SORRY....
500 million for a 2,200 seat venue. Seems a little pricey…
More than $200,000 per seat. Each seat would have to be used for 2000 concerts to bring the cost down to $100 per seat per concert. Music for the elite. Suppose this money had been used instead to promote teaching of music in schools.
But don't forget they can also film and televised or make movies out of performances and slowly start making that money back through those endeavors
Nothing at all about music. And 'music' is listening to the wrong people. And the wrong people are going to continue making their noise until music has left.
And here's something else . . . There's a lot of people in 'music' who know exactly where the generous David Geffen got the money.
No explanation - in typical CBS news fashion(& let’s not neglect reporting other American networks) - what way specifically Lincoln center’s giving back to the community it hurt when it came about! You report really stinks 😷
Didn’t you hear? These poor people can trek across the city to the upscale bar & lounge where I’m sure they’ll feel totally comfortable and buy a drink.
No one cares. It's a music hall, it's for music now, not providing some safe space for you to cry in because the previous landlord sold the land to a new owner who wanted a music hall instead of slums.
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