Has The Black Adam, Shazam Fiasco Hurt Dwayne Johnson's Image
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The rock finally showed his true colors and it all backfired on his face.
👀
I am seeing him in a different light now to be honest. If he can't be the star in whatever project he won't do it? There's a difference between being your own boss and having everything your way or no way.
I think it would've been way better if Black Adam had been the villain of the shazam sequel. Black Adam could've defeated shazam making him an unstoppable force, working him up to God tier level villain eventually leading to a Black Adam vs Superman showdown with Henry Cavill
I think his overall career will be fine no matter what. However I do think that established franchises will be less likely to add him to the ensemble now that 2 of the most famous franchises of all time have spoken out publicly against him. If I was running a big franchise, I would be worried about adding him and having to put up with that kind of behavior. Although he will most likely always have movie roles because of his larger than life charisma and action movie experience.
Didn’t he turn down cameos on the first Shazam and another DC production? Maybe the vin diesel drama wasn’t near as one sided as thought.
1st & biggest mistake was no Shazam, without Shazam there's no black Adam. Respect the source material
I feel like my disconnect is that despite the “15 years of working” on Black Adam, it felt like a lazy movie. The script was poorly written and basic. The acting wasn’t anything special and poor in some areas. The visuals were fine in some places and bad in others. And worst of all, DJ sanitized a villain and anti-hero and turned him into a largely benevolent hero, like he does with every character he plays. So I didn’t see this as a “big swing”. It was like a thousand other DJ movies, it just had super powers. And I think the schtick is starting to wear people out
He needed a humbling and he got it with the failure of Black Adam. All the years of non-stop talk and anticipation paid up for nothing. It’s not gonna hurt him long term but it’s gonna be hard for studios right now wanting to work with him.
I’m not convinced he’s fully admitted to himself that Black Adam was a failure.
@@jaybling6687 oh he won’t. Even when he does he always tends to go towards the audience score on RT which shouldn’t be taken seriously.
I don't think he'll have any real fan issues. I do believe studio heads and producers may pause before they decide to involve him in future projects.
Knowing how relentlessly mean and unforgiving the Internet is I think this could damage his image quite a bit, obviously not for the people outside of the movie fan bubble but it might for the people in it, I mean just look at Patty Jenkins, after she made the first Wonder Woman everyone loved her and said she was great, but after WW84 everyone instantly started treating her like a criminal, now they’re like “Don’t let that woman near a single movie ever again because we don’t want her terrible directing to ruin it” Maybe it would be different if it was just any other movie but superhero and Star Wars fandom is horrifically toxic and whenever something in it isn’t good or they make a change that the fandom doesn’t like these people always wanna tie the people involved to a pole and burn them alive, and so just based on that I would sadly say there is a pretty big chance that this will hurt Dwayne Johnson ‘s image for these people, it won’t for me but I think it could for them
There was some drama with fast and furious too
They should be blaming WB/DC not the Actor.
Like Martin Scorsese said “people don’t go for the character, they go for the star.” So technically yes it is his fault.
Loving this realization about the Rock
I bet you do
Yeah the Rock is getting corny and some people been tired of him for awhile now anyway.He has to come out with something special and not movies that seem like they should've been made in the 90's
Dude your D riding Rock right now
How many actually good movies has The Rock actually been in? The Jumanji movies sure, but he is like the fourth or fifth best character in those.
And I would say he was good in Moana too.
The Rundown was decent
And even then in Jumanji The Next Level Awkwafina did a way better job of playing both versions of his characters. I brought her way more as Spencer than I ever did when DJ plays him and she was way funnier as Grandpa Eddie than he was
I mean with all this it's surely confirms what's been going on with Fast and the Furious
NOT AS MUCH AS, HANGING OUT, WITH OPRAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHE'S NO LONGER, THAT WOMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John please stop pandering to Dwayne Johnson I know he’s your favorite movie star but this narrative that he hasn’t pulled a power move & bullies people is not new, a few executives on Hercules said he went behind their back to get what he wanted
The rock has to be the head of every franchise
Congrats on upcoming 20 years John. Been following you since the Movie Blog way back then, I’m happy for you.
Rick got the benefit of the doubt with the Vin Diesel beef. This now shines some doubt on that assumption. So what may have been a one off with Shazam now kind of appears to be a pattern
I do think in the case of F&F it was two ego’s clashing
It won't. He's too overexposed and should cut back in making movies
I really enjoyed DJ when he first started to get into movies. His version of Walking Tall is awesome. I enjoyed his "franchise Viagra" stage. Over the past few years I've started to sour on the dude a bit though. He's just everywhere and I think he's kind of oversaturated his brand.
dude he was so humble back then, he did small role, independent films, play villain in comedy. Now if he in the movie and he's not the main guy, he not doing it. He won't do movie where he lose the fight. He might as well play Superman.
For me?
Yes!
Yes, yes it has
The box office luster is definitely starting to wear off. Both Black Adam and Jungle Cruise lost money. The Jungle Cruise sequel announcement makes no sense in that regard, but considering it was announced under Chapek and Chapek is gone, I don't see it happening now.
And John talks about Dwayne Johnson being a guy who always takes big swings. That may be true financially, but certainly not from a creative point of view. Whatever level of entertainment value his movies have, there's no denying that pretty much everything he does feels safe, standard and generic, processed by a studio committee if you will. And while his films in the past have made easy money, they don't make as big money as one would think. With the exceptions of the Fast & Furious films (including Hobbs & Shaw), the Jumanji movies and Moana, no Dwayne Johnson movie has ever crossed half a billion dollars.
There's a feeling that the budget of his movies has increased significantly yet the box office remains stagnant on average which means that his movies are becoming less financially sustainable. And while the public may remain oblivious to the supposed turmoil, it still matters that there could be turmoil because it involves high ranking studio individuals and those people could very well be less willing to put out Dwayne Johnson movies.
Dj had changes made to dc superpets, jungle cruise then of course there is Black Adan and Shazam 2, Success has gone to his head.
Look I don’t think that Dwayne public image and career is going to fall after Black Adam. Like you said he took a huge gamble and he loss. That’s the thing about gambles if you win you win big however if you lose you lose big as well. And no I think his reputation will suffer unless he rock bottoms a comedian at the Oscars for making a gi Jane 2 joke. Will reputation is done after what Chris said. But as for the rock not really. It’s just a bump in the road. Nothing too bad.
We will see when Bad boys 4 & I am legend 2 come out. Coz by then I’m sure people will be over the slap.
@@RoseyRK fair enough. However personally for me as a comedy fan I can’t forgive him at least for right now. who knows 5 years from now that could change but we shall see.
The Guardians of The Galaxy is a bad comparison given the mismanagement of Warner Bros leading up to it , GOTG had 9 strong films leading into in which Marvel did not blink or waiver , it's amazing what you can accomplish when you stick to your plan
Rock is always trying to put his spin on things. He wanted to center the DCU around himself. And when Black Adam wasn't the big hit he anticipated he started claiming everyone else's math was wrong. He tweeted out that post adding in streaming figures to Black Adam's box office and claiming it made a profit. Rock has no problem deceiving his fans, and sometimes I think he buys into his own BS. I remember when he attacked the critics when they gave Baywatch bad reviews. The Rock is overly sensitive.
Would rather have a Sequel to "Rampage" than San Andreas. 😬👊
I think a Rampage sequel makes more creative sense than a San Andreas sequel. There was a deleted post credit scene to set up a sequel.
His ego has always been very high and noticeable. This doesn’t surprise me. Hence why I stopped watching his movies a while ago. No one likes a cocky self centered individual. It’s just a turn off. Maybe he’ll get what’s coming. 🤷🏻♂️
The Rock's ego got in the way. The fact that he wanted his own Black Adam movie and didn't want to appear in The Shazam movie and wanted to fight Superman is concerning. It's like Heath ledger not wanting the Joker to be in a Batman movie and said that the Joker should fight Superman.
Good question. Was a huge DJ fan before but yeah personally I'm not really keen to check out his other projects after all this. But I don't think the general movie going audience knows what's going on so he'll be fine.
He might not be fine if executives refuse to greenlight further Dwayne Johnson movies because the drama involves him pissing off executives.
@@jaybling6687 good point. Hopefully this will motivate him to be a team player.
Congrats on 20 years
You say that Ryan Reynolds and The Rock are your favorite movie stars. So Red Notice must be your favorite movie .
Nope. I’ve seen the Rock hit Ken Shamrock in the face with a steel chair. The Rock has been a heel and I still cheered for him.
The Rock has been and always will be one of the best heels in the game.
Hollywood Rock two decades ago was the best heel version of The Rock 😆
So I grew up the biggest Rock fan. Had his poster up and everything.... I am disgusted with how he treated the fans and how selfish he was during this entire process. Every move was to benefit his pockets. It's sad that he couldn't just play the villain for a film or two just to build the story up. I feel like if they went that route, the proper way, then there might have been a future for Shazam and Black Adam. I also blame David Sandberg, but its more of a personal pet peeve. I cannot for the life of me ever think of creating a new villain in the DC universe when there is a pantheon of villains to choose from. In my opinion, the movie deserved to fail on that choice alone, I can't stand that shit... thinking I was going to pay money to see Shazam fight an old woman.
While it hard to say that Dwayne's choices and inputs weren't a factor I don't get the need for the mud slinging to be solely at him. Let's be real here, this is yet another consequence of a decade's worth of creative missteps and studio mismanagement by WB. Because, and I do say this as someone who would run the place into the ground if I were put it charge of it, you'd have to be at the end of your rope to say yes to the idea, "Let's centre a cinematic universe of arguably the most legendary and pop culture defining comic heroes around a secondary character played by The Rock."
Well, he was correct that the hierarchy of DC changed after the release of Black Adam. He is now at the bottom and Gunn is at the top
Until Supes comes out, Gunn is only a step above Johnson
Gunn is trash and his Superman movie will bomb
@@Vicsongwriter Gunn will be great
@@patricktyler4712 so you want to wait and have a 44 year old Cavill Superman
Yes for me it did. I always thought the Rock was easy going and helpful. This whole Shazam thing kinda makes me say ok he’s not that cool. Lol. It’s like no reason for him to block the Shazam post credits. Like settle down rock. Your movie was pretty basic.
The rock just needs to be out of the camera he is everywhere people forget he had young rock for 3 seasons. Plus truthfully joe rogan us hurting his image callingvhim out about PEDS. whichbthe rock denied being on them which also was a bad move for the rock as well.
Hell yes but not because if he’s a bad guy or good cause I don’t know him personally so idc but from his work he’s been giving mediocre work at best and his so called “franchise viagra” he needs to have an allstar team he’s not Tom cruise who can bring a series and make gold or Keanu reeves how tf does that guy do idk but matrix and John wick iconic action films the rock is nowhere near those levels of success or performances and Keanu reeves barely does any acting in those films except for that scene when he talks about losing his dog and wife and everything in the first wick movie that was his best acting.
Black Adam was Dwayne Johnson's Medellin for Vinny Chase lol.
I like the guy & will see his future movies if they look good to me but dwayne the clown Johnson could eat a little more popeye biscuit-dry humble pie
So many idiots in the comments talking rubbish about The Rocks ego. There’s a long list of actors he worked with since 2001 all of which have said good things about him, same in wrestling when he put people over. Especially Kevin Hart, Jason Stratham & Emily Blunt. I’m not shocked about Vin Diesel situation coz I know he ain’t professional on set.
I dont think the average person knows what black adam is and everyone knows who The Rock is
Yes
He was to drip everywhere.. just be an actor and stop trying to dip everywhere!
He has his own recordlabel.. be a boss there , decide there.. be an actor doing what they tell you! Damn
Tons of haters out here. This won't have long-term effects on his career. Black Adam didn't work. He's moving on. A lot of the haters should too. The Hollywood game is a rough business. He didn't do anything thousands of other producers before him haven't done before in some form or another. Gimme a break! And Zach Levi should be a man and stop finger-pointing.
First mature and rational comment here.
It won’t hurt his image because IMO it’s not that deep.
honestly, i’ve never really liked duane’s acting or his movies, with the exception of “the rundown.” he is just meh. all his movies seem to smack of overblown made for tv vehicles. he’s just not good to me. wrestlers that seemed to rise above their ex career: roddy piper (real name?), dave bautista. they shed their wrestler skin effectively and good for them. but not the rock. you can put duane in the same category with john cena, the latter of whom i just wish the earth would swallow whole, he’s such a waste of space. 🤢 for me, it is ‘just no duane’, and absolutely ‘just no john’. blech!
@johncampea It's easy to blame someone at their lowest point in life, but Dwayne @therock has faced a lot of setbacks early in life and we all know how he emerged victorious eventually. An athlete always take a step back before rushing to victory. Just like that Dwayne Johnson will definitely make a comeback & surprise everyone...and then we'll know "what the Rock was cooking" while the media tried to bring him down. So be optimistic, appreciate & respect the efforts of hardworking artists in every field. Mark my words......"The Rock will return!!!!!!!!"
Maybe the Shazam movie wasn’t a great movie. It’s crazy how people want to blame the failure of this movie on the Rock. It’s a load of crap!! I remember the time Tom Cruise jumped up and down on Oprah’s couch. He had also made some negative remarks about Brook Shields. Tom Cruise was raked over the coals. People said he was crazy! There was a backlash against him. He was a a career low point. Now look at Tom Cruise. So I don’t see any of this crap people are saying effecting him long term. As long as he makes good movies he will be fine
the rock is so overexposed that i feel like i have an impacted arse full of his garbage.. black adam was not watchable.. dwane, your 15 minutes of fame are up bud
This is all just part of a plan for The Rock to turn heel in real life and face Roman Reigns at WrestleMania next year
Let's ride the wagon of hate for Dwayne Johnson, give it a break, Dwayne Johnson is and will always have fans in the WWE and wrestling world, maybe its time to review your life performance or what you do for a living, like you've never made any mistakes, Dwayne Johnson has been established since the 90s..he will be remembered, unlike other people who won't be remembered in six months, anything to get ratings and views, do some research on Dwayne Johnson and his family, indeed of criticizing one movie, this topic is tarnishing DC, Gunn and this brand, I started to be a DC fan, now its full of hate and untruths, all hero movies are just fantasy characters come to life, this topic is tarnishing DC fans, DJ is the peoples chomp
No. 95% of big time Hollywood actors/stars
I don’t think it will a lot of people 100 percent believe this is WB shifting the blame off them yet again. And Levi is a push over doing what he’s told because he wants to keep his job which I understand too. But literally how do cameos effect the overall finished product of the film when the cameos they are talking about would have made the film better or worse.
This is more of WB not Dwayne Johnson.
This is just the Rock being the Rock tbh he's been like this since the 90s lol no biggie
DOoc Savage ❤
King Kumi Kumi Ha? 🤣
The Rock trying to indiscreetly imply he will attempt to take over the Dragon Ball franchise next.
Why would anyone give a F about any of this 🤣
None 🤔
Exactly, it is hard to hurt your image when said image is a 1 note actor who made a career of average at best films.
What does he have to do with movies I mean these are bad movies oh wait that's it they need to blame someone one scene here and there wouldn't have made these movies any better and the fact u listen to studios who have no clue what their audience is Hollywood's biggest problem and me I haven't seen this many bad movies in a decade in a long time they only make marvel movies and they have ran that into the ground and that is over so now what oh wait let's blame an actor who was in one movie and say because he didn't let us do this seen it that seen 2 movies were bad.
His biggest hits are ensemble movies💯
He brings them back from nothing
No
I wrote this a couple day's ago when he mentioned that DJ was the biggest movie star in the world. I wrote when it's am ensemble yes, but when he's the sole headliner his BO do ok but nothing that screams "biggest movie star in the world"
@@reggiebrown9508 the solo movies are still hits and make money
Yes
I think Dwayne Johnson's actions and ego definitely affected the quality of both Black Adam and Shazam 2. It's not about just him preventing cameo appearances. If the reports are true... he did not want his Black Adam character or even the Justice Society to be involved with the Shazam franchise at all. This almost certainly directly affected and restricted the writing and creative process related to both Shazam movies. The writers were essentially handcuffed and did not even have access to Shazam's main nemesis??? That was just ridiculous. It's not just about the cameos.
It’s the fact that he’s openly stated he’s the main influencer for the Black Adam movie…and it was kind of terrible for me and mine. It’s definitely made me think twice about anything he’s attached to if he has much sway.
Love the Rock lol but man bro be the villain simple as that lol would of been so cool if the 3rd movie would of been a vs one
I don't know how much it will hurt his image long term, but it's definitely had an impact now. I can't remember any other time in his career where there's been a lot of negative press about him.
Dwayne has needed this humble pie. It’s been a long time coming.
IM JUST SUFFERING FROM THE ROCK FATIGUE. HE BASICALLY JUST BECOME A MEME FOR ME AT THIS POINT
I thought Black Adam would be good. But I didn’t like. The movie because it just missed something basically the rock just played himself.
He isn’t the movie star that he’s making him out to be. There’s been plenty of Dwayne’s movies that flopped at the box office.
I never understood the appeal of the rock. He plays the rock in every movie without substance. He’s good at catering to the lowest common denominator of acting. Cena and Batista (to bring up other wrestlers turned actors) seem to be genuinely interested in strengthening their craft and are looking to transition to legit acting. Personally i wish the rock would stop acting and go back to the wrestling world. Just be an announcer or do commentary.
I totally agree with you! The Rock can't act And does not seem to be improving.
I hope so. I'm tired of that guy
In all honesty, the general audience doesn't care nor knows about this controversy and will continue to see him,unless he pulls a Will Smith
The average person who doesn't watch shows like these have no idea about this story nor the ones with Ezra Miller the past year. These stories are big to us, but not to the rest of the movie going world.
He never loved the comic books. He saw how RDJ made nine figures over the course of his time with Marvel and he wanted that. He’s 50. He’s only got so much time left to be the big action guy. DC was supposed to be his retirement plan.
He’s been trying to get Black Adam made for a lot longer than the MCU has been around
Everyone wanted to see black Adam vs shazam with a superman team up .
🚨 John, the Rock did a lot to damage Shazam.
1. Black Adam should had been in Shazam before a solo movie.
2. The Rock was Producer on Black Adam; but, he should had allow the JSA to be in Shazam to support DC overall. The Rock failed to care about DC; he care more about himself.
This situation isn't as bad as the fallout with Vin Diesel but this does support the argument that he goes behind people's backs to get films made where he's in total control. Seems like this is how he got Hobbs and Shaw made 🤦🏾♂️😂
Ever since that beef started and how’s he’s been over the last years he needs to humble himself
@@geogarcia4097no he really doesn’t
99% of fans have no idea the drama that he has been involved in. That being said, it seems pretty clear to me that he wants desperately to be involve in a big time franchise and I don't see how many movie execs handcuff themself to him knowing that he doesn't exactly have a positive history of being a team player.
I mean even if fans have no idea about the drama, it still matters that there could be drama. Because the drama supposedly involves high ranking executives and they can say no to Dwayne Johnson movies going forward.
Even though overall The Rock has been the most successful wrestler turned actor in terms of box office, John Cena and Batista have had more memorable roles. If all three retired from acting today, people would remember Cena as Peacemaker and Batista as Drax. Has The Rock really had that memorable role?
Hobbs, yes.
Agreed. Cena and Batista seem to be interested in strengthening their craft and transitioning to legit acting. The rock just plays the rock everytime without substance. I never understood his appeal at all.
For really tho
Dwayne Johnson has long been notorious for his ginormous ego, so this whole fiasco with Black Adam and Shazam comes as no surprise to me, and probably not to most other people too. I don't think this would necessarily "hurt" his image, his image has always been narcissistic and egotistical.
Only to his haters 😏
Oh so you know him personally ?
@@TheMa5cmpb no but you can tell alot about someone based on their actions, the Rock always wants to play the "hero" and be the center of attention, his refusal to be in the Shazam movie or let the JL characters appear in Shazam 2 is more proof of his ego. He was so obsessed with wanting a Black Adam vs Superman movie even though BA is a Shazam villain, not Superman's. And turning BA from a villain in the comics to a antihero in the movie just because he wanted to play the "hero" all prove just how narcissistic and egotistical he is.
Like every other movie star who has ever existed. Or they wouldn't be in that job
What utter nonsense.
Vin Diesel’s looking a bit better now 😂
All Vin Diesel does is those Fast movies.
Won't affect him at all. General audiences and movie goers don't know or care about behind the scenes Hollywood politics
The people saying no must be die hard fans of his or plain stupid dumb if they don’t think Rock’s image has been spiralling since Henry Cavil being fired. He has been a very shady guy seeing what he did to Brendon Fraiser who literally gave him the break. He tried to also do a power grab in Fast series which led him to another bomb which was Hobbs & Shaw on which he was betting all his cards like he did after on Black Adam.
Damage among the general audience?, nope. Damage among studio execs and insiders?, Up in the air....
The Rock is not a good actor! Also, he favors ego and money over good character or good story. The Rock being in a movie is a red flag to me.
The rock is a great actor you are crazy
Some of The Rock's smear campaign is weird, bcuz when it was reported that WB execs had an issue with him going over their heads, ppl took the Rocks' side. When he publicly dissed Hamada about Cavill, ppl took The Rock's side. Not 1 person complained about him strong arming WB when they thought that it would lead to the return of Henry Cavill. Even though he openly said a long time ago that he preferred that Black Adam & Shazam not be tied together in his origin story, ppl just now want to put the blame on him. It's like suddenly The Rock turned heel, bcuz the fans got tired of him & it's the trend now to hate him lol
“Black Adam” was the best mediocre mediocrity that The Rock’s ego could dish up.
If he was really a black Adam comic book fan then he would know that not including shazam would kill both movies so I don’t want hear he’s a comic book fan when he’s trying to get black Adam vs Superman FOH without shazam black Adam don’t exist
Still campea supporting him. He always just fanboys rock.disgusting
What's disgusting to me are the toxic Snyderverse/Henry Cavill-virgin fanboys.
I didn’t like Black Adam (at all) BECAUSE I had big issues with it.
GOTG was an unknown franchise but excelled because the writing was amazing, the story was actually interesting, and the right actors were picked.
The Rock is clearly a talented and creative man, but it would be nice to see him play a supporting role where it’s not just The Rock being The Rock. Shazam 2 with Black Adam as the villain, just an evil, bipolar opposite of Shazam, would have been the best fan service. But he played it safe, as usual, and we got another very forgettable performance. I would appreciate it if for once he could flex and his acting and try something different.
Talented and creative?
Well GOTG also has the hype of the avengers behind them. because everyone knew they was going to be part of the story
Playing it safe would have been being in Shazam 2 what comic book fans wanted.
It’s not the audience he has to worry about, it’s the studio execs
This. 100%.
He'll be fine.
Dwayne Johnson's acting has hurt his image.😂
...isn't Black Adam second banana to Shazam...like Joker is to Batman...?
Not at all, dude could still draw crazy money in any movie. Are you serious? 😂
Think of it this way on DJ’s “mid movie” the lowest he can make is 393M like…
I've definitely lost some respect for johnson