Before this update, everytime I saw a survivor win a chase because of a single key a part of my soul died, now, everytime I see a survivor try to Dead Hard for distance a part of my soul comes back to life
It went from “F***ING DEAD HARRRRRD!!!” to “Ooooh, nice job David.” I still wanna rip his legs off for teabagging me but at least he’s good at using the new dead hard
Interesting enough, channeling with keys lets you lose collision with the killer. Love waiting under windows as the killer vaults through and runs the opposite direction
@@psq_gamer no i mean that These survivors play like orang utans. They don't know how to loop without dead hard they literally can't mindgame anything without it
Honestly I feel like a lot of people who complain about tunneling were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. As a killer main I literally just attack anyone I find 1st. If I find you. I find you. If you run into the killer again that's kind of on you more so than the killer.
@@eggmin8967 The difference between an angry killer is he will hit you on hook and not pay attention to the rest of the game. The tactical ones are proxy camping and trying to do multiple things at the same time, and will lock unto the hook if he sees a person's trying to rescue.
As a fellow killer I do this aswell, if survivors keep running into me they're just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Or maybe they have DS idk I can never tell
It’s actually so depressing to watch as of today. Dead Hard turned out to be stronger in good hands than before, and it’s now yet again the most common survivor perk
I'm finally having fun playing as killer again and even when I play survivor I see killers in chat being happy, nice, friendly in the way they talk I saw some post game replies like "So this is how it feels to play against a lobby with no dead hards? I love this game" People are getting together, the atmosphere is getting warmer and it's all thanks to a murder of a villainous perk People will adapt and learn how to loop again, give them a month or two, but for now... Let. Them. Cry. (•̀ω•́ )
yesterday i read some steam discussions. man those people were upset. honestly as a surv main, because of the stupid mechanics killers had to counter, im really excited to play killer without any worry.
7:08 Killer queue times have gotten longer for me overhall, Like, in the morning and afternoon, killer queues are slow as usual, but even in the evening and at night, I still have to wait a few minutes to get a game instead of the usual instant queue pre- 6.1.0 patch :/
It depends a lot on mmr. If your mmr is too high, it will try to make you wait 3-5 minutes to find a match, and then only let you play against either newbies or swf really above your grade. There are dead zones in the timezones, but they shouldn't last more than 1-2 hours.
7:05 This right here is probably the biggest factor for me in having easier games on killer. I see who the weak link probably is. And there's usually one guy that's prestige 15+, and I don't have to waste precious time that first chase figuring out he's not a good survivor to chase.
Definitely having a lot more fun running Overcome + Lightweight along with Inner Strength or just a brown medkit just to immediately lose the killer, however yeah I've been seeing a lot more camping killers now and a couple that just tunnel through DS, almost every game with these killers I will hit DS, and it doesn't seem to matter because 1. I still don't get anywhere super useful, at best I loop the killer for another 30 seconds or so, and 2. although Gens are only 10 seconds slower, my teammates would rather crouch and hide on the other side of the map instead of doing generators.
I love the new deadhard, that comes from a survivor main. Its even better than the old DH in some situations, saved me so many times and it was really easy to learn imo.
I mean I still see atleast 2 to 3 dh in all of my games. Honestly I feel like I am seeing more Dh now that I use to some how. Also, the way DH is noe typically used is still doing goofy stuff under the killers chin, running under a pallet and guessing if they have it trying to get pixel perfect swings or givibg them 100% value by lunging Still gotta treat everyone like they have it making it have value for just existing still. When you still need to go for a pre-flight checklist before you can swing. Yeah nothing changed in it's end result of trying not to be a 3rd health state
just because we don't know how good we have it and how bad it was in your days doesn't mean OUR FEELING ARE INVALID, DAD (that's pretty much it, I wanted to say something afterwards to make this comment seem a bit more reasonable but I can't find anything remotely interesting in my little peanut brain)
i play survivor with my friends i usually main killer i never use dead hard i said "it's gonna get nerfed at some point" "no it's not!" *recently gets nerfed* "finally we get to see more survivors use different perks" my Friends "but but" "just use what i do Urban Evasion,Burrowed time,no one left behind and the perk that boosts healing for 60 seconds after unhooking a survivor
Double whammied me as a Hag and Claudette player. Oof. But tbh I always play with respect, and of personal preference never tunnel. I'll still usually say gg at the end of a game. But I love for the snoot boop moments.
Since the patch i started using and i have been enjoying it. Also i relized that it straight up could garentee a free extension of chase with no effort Edit:new one u have a split second and have to get hit to get value most of the time compared to the old which just need to line up to the vault or pallet
I never used dead hard to begin with and I feel like its even easier for me now because of off the record and other changes. I don't intentionally tunnel people but if I just happen to run into the person I previously hooked too bad. You just happen to step in my trap, you just happen to be the person my aura showed on the map etc. too bad.
People that constantly complain about solo q being the sole reason for their bad experience, why don’t you just play with your friends? Solo q has always been this way forever, yet u still queue up by yourself knowing what you’ll encounter?
I want to see some of the buffs to killer get slightly reduced, but not altogether go away. I want to see the duration of the speed boost for getting hit as a survivor go back to 3 seconds. I like that DH is an extremely skill based perk now and agree with you that it was a stupidly broken perk for survivors. I hate what they did to Botany Knowledge, I used to love this perk and bring it nearly every game now I never use it, the -53% item efficiency for +13% heal speed feels like a HUUUGE nerf to a perk that wasn't that good or stapled to the meta to begin with. Me and my friends used to have somewhere between a 40 - 50% escape rate as survivors when we played together which I think is pretty reasonable. Now we have like a 10 - 20% escape rate which is ridiculous. Granted there's a skill gap between us, but it's hard to convince them to play the game anymore. I miss playing this game with my friends is all. =/ I want to see what the kill rates look like after this patch. From my own anecdotal experience it's going to be INSANELY high.
The patch just outed the big baby survivor mains with them getting greedy in a loop, killing themselves on first hook, then going to social media to cry about how they were tunneled and camped.
The real ones know that Sprint Burst has always been better anyway. This update has brought out a lot of 4 slowdown Nurses and Blights at my MMR though and a lot of facecamping too. I don't care much about tunneling but facecamping is so boring and they didn't increase the hook times. I don't care if facecamping is fun for some people, it should just not exist at all just like old Dead Hard.
They should introduce the mechanics of dying light into the base, but if the maniac is next to the hook then the survivor dies 50% slower, so the be encouraged and killer will camp less
@@sansgaster4877 Exactly and make it only apply if the killer isn't in chase that way survivors can't just loop the hook. Very simple way of fixing camping.
personally as a survivor main, I was perfectly fine with the dead hard update. not so happy about ds being brutally murdered though. and dadly due to the nerf to ds, so far i've experienced so much tunneling, because even if you're running ds, like a idiot, it's a 3 second stun which means literally nothing. it annoys me endlessly, but sadly it's just seems to be the new norm
I can't hear this video over the sound of thousands of kids crying that they can't press E to outplay anymore. Schadenfreude about DH kids aside, you're 100% right about tunneling. Anyone who's "getting tunneled and killed every game" needs to face the fact that they're just bad at chases. Good survivors don't get tunneled because they waste too much of the killer's time. Get good.
I like the update for both sides. The killer feels like the actual power role. Survivors feel like an epic up hill battle that makes Escapes feel great. Killer finally feels like a murder fantasy simulator.
Most of the time I feel like the game was easy when I win as survivor because the killer was bad. I don't get the same feeling you do when playing survivor at all.
The new build variety warms my soul. I’ve been using Any Means Necessary (save resources) and Repressed Alliance (counter kicking regression perks) and it’s been way more fun and rewarding.
Hell yeah! I finally feel free to use the perks I wanna use. Repressed Alliance gang! Something about blocking a gen in a killer's face is so satisfying.
@@na976 A lot of survivors are already running the same perks again. The only difference is the names of them and their usefulness being worse than the originals. Same for killers, except their version of regression can be better than previously. Really don't know what people are talking about build variety.
Dead Hard is now a skill based perk, thank god. Still good if you time it right with the speed-boost and all but now single celled organisms can’t press one button to live :)
coming out here and speaking my mind, as always. solo queue has always had its problems but lately there's been an epidemic of people just giving up at first down or first hook that ruins a lot of games. i've seen it as killer too despite how clear it is that survivors can still pose a real challenge for the killer without their precious "E".
You were right on your patch notes review. There may have been a period right after the patch where survivors were scrambling because they didn't know how to use new DH properly, but ohohoooo is new DH better than old DH in skilled hands.
After the update I found out I had the most fun as a killer AND survivor! I always felt bad for using dead hard poorly, thinking myself shit at survivor. Now I know that yes, I am, and so is everyone else ! XD
Wish you did an experiment video where in one games sample you play chill/don't tunnel and in the other you tunnel the shit out of survivors. Kind of the "Difference between nice/evil killer playstyle results" video
I have thought about a video like that but at the end of the day I don't want to purposefully ruin someones game for content. Otz's no perk run on every killer shows the real strength of tunneling without mercy if you haven't seen it
So, if the survivors do not like the (new) dead hard, then they are just bad at the game, cant loop and cry about it. But if you do not like the (old) dead hard, then you play well and just express your opinion? Is that how it works?
Every time someone successfully times a dead hard on me I smile. Since the update this maybe happened once or twice but my jaw dropped each time. I'm sure that people will stop complaining eventually too. Maybe thana does have some issues and gen slowdown does suck for solo que but I think this update is mostly fine.
hard times (2016) create strong survivors, strong survivors create good times (2018) good times create weak survivors (dead hard generation) weak survivors create bad times (2022 fuck dead hard lul)
first off I have given killers a 3-6 minute first chase and they tunneled me because they were back at hook they wanted me out in a situation where I cant defend myself(2 health states etc) now I didnt start taking off the record yet and it turns out Overcome is useless vs being hard tunneled lol but the fact is, sometimes not USUALLY but sometimes the long first chase just makes them camp/tunnel you.
Its shitty being killer cause no matter what you'll either get abused in game or in the chat afterward. I would always try to go for the survivor saving the hook and then the survivor off the hook had BT and they body blocked for the other survivor and so I downed them right after, then I got blamed for tunneling. So there's no winning.
I did that the day of the mid patch on my wraith. Due to match making weirdness, there was one really good survivor with 3 regular survivors. This super survivor found an infinite loop in the greenhouse of the Garden of Joy map. Took about 4 generators worth of time, but the survivors only popped out 2-3 gens. By the time I hooked that person, I needed them out of the game because if they were unhooked, they were just too good for me to catch before end game collapse. So I just stood there and when other survivors (solo q) looked at me at a distance, Ishook my camera at them. Someone tried to save the person when I turned my back, so I turned around and grabbed em, then dropped. The person died on the hook, and the 3 survivors and I had a normal game afterwards. They ended up mostly dying since they were not that great at chases and tactics. I let 1-2 escape with pts. This person made no mistakes in the loop, read my mind games, and looked like they were face smashing into the wall, that kind of looping survivor squeezing every bit out of the angles. They also chained together different tiles, not just one loop tile, and went back and forth.
I love the new Dead Hard, nobody uses it because they think it is bad, so killers never expect you to use it, and once they know you have it, they are REALLY afraid to swing into you.
I actually like the new Dead Hard as an unhook perk instead of regular exhaustion perk. It doesn't go away like OTR or BT and if I'm already using anothet exhaustion perk the killer doesn't expect me to still have it after an unhook.
I like being tunneled. Getting chased is the most fun part of the game for me and if I can skip the holding M1 and only get chased that’s a pretty fun game.
I used to run old deadhard, and honestly i think this change is fair. You need to find the perfect timing or opportunity to use it instead of mindlessly using it to just extend chases. I'm still gonna run D.H so i get better at it.
Idk, steel running 3-5 gens, always get in the face camping and die first. What did i wrong? My teammates go down in 10 second. I am "weakness"? Because try to help tm without any exhausted perk and steel running more than 10 sec.
People might be celebrating the DH nerf but since every survivor main is whining on Twitter begging to nerf killers. I know BHVR very well, and I’m calling it now: killer’s are going to get nerfed hard.
It’s sad. They expect being able to easily bully the killer to be basekit and for the killer to ignore and respect every action they do to make it “fair and not toxic”.
I'm tired of people comparing someone with a bad attitude to video game perks. I absolutely despise people crying about perks and then carrying on to be the most scummy player they can be. Just go on with your day and stop acting like you own the truth. Because the sad truth is that you're all wrong. Killer mains : devs don't owe you a game with only fair perks so that you can 4k at will. Survivor mains : devs don't owe you a game with only weak killers you can bully when you feel like it. Both sides should stop acting like it's a war and think about having fun playing the game, not having fun at the expense of the other side. If your only joy on a video game is to ruin other people's days, you're an ass. Period. There's no justifying that, no matter how hard you try. That is all I have to say.
I'm just glad not to see Dead Hard in every damn build as a Survivor who never used it. It's so boring, it's always been boring. I have a bigger issue with them pointlessly nerfing Iron Will to transfer its effects onto Off the Record along with the other buffs that perk got.
I live in Brazil, and Killer Queue times are way worse than before the update, with survivor queue taking about 10 seconds while killer takes an average of 4 minutes. But at least I don't have to sniff every survivors ass for 30 seconds waiting for them to press E, so far trade I suppose
4:30 the pyrimids werent actually built by slaves, that's a common misconception also the new dh nerf sound great! too bad i play on mobile so i cant enjoy it :(
Gen regression perks shouldn’t stack. I think that once that is fixed the game will be fine. I just don’t want to do gens for 25 mins and then everyone dies at 4 gens
My friends and I played day 1 and 2 of the update and it was the worst of the worst in terms of killers playing in “unfun” ways. Camping, tunneling, 4 slowdown perks etc. After that things evened out, thankfully. I think people really just wanted to see how bad things could be.
A lot of people were testing new builds and how to break the new system. When BHVR says they will downgrade tunneling and camping, killers are motivated to test how this changes the tactics. Not having to deal with a 3rd health state for 4 survivors, and the fact that survivors can't run as far after a hit, decreases the pressure on the killer and increases it for survivors that are altruistic, do body blocks, and are hanging around the killer all day instead of doing gens/totems.
"Killers tunnel the bad survivor'' Lol most of the time i get tunneled it's bc killers were mad to chase me for 2/3 gen, this argument is clearly not true.
Dead Hard is still easy af to use imo. You just need to bait it in the correct way. I already solved this issue for myself and for my squad, in fact it even got a buff imho.
Sounds about right. You've got kids complaining about how the game is unbalanced because they need to improve as players. They absolutely deserve this patch and I love it, but they just call me a bitter killer main. Good to see a RUclipsr with sense who isn't selling out with the "Solo Survivor Experience" videos just to rake in views and rile survivors up. Hope we get an ocean themed killer, and it's a type of whale...a Killer Whale.
i want to say 2 things, first one is that i like your content and i hope you keep making it, second i usually just laugh at people that defend stuff like old DH, omegablink or blightclearlybroken techs because imo that stuff shouldn't exist in a party game like this one, not for strict balancing purposes but a lot of sad people try to destroy fun in every context and will use every instrument of balls destruction just for that, so devs should destroy overperforming stuff without giving a dong about that players, having fun is the only purpose of this kind of games. Bonus random mini rants: 1)Talking about competitive dbd is clowns (not the beautiful dbd character) material 2)Camping and tunneling are "strategies" that favor static gameplay that imo is what a game of "catch the escaping teen" should avoid as much as possible 3)Nurse is broken, that's it, it's like putting an extended magazine automatic giga caliber rifle in a western game, and no essay or ispirational speech will never change that Have a nice day reading people
I hate saying this so often, but blights who use techs will lose more than people who play him normally. The techs you think make him strong do the opposite, they are just fun. Edit: the only thing that needs to be nerfed about blight is a few add-ons.
What you say is true, if you try those "techs" often you probably will loose more than a blight that play his power in an optimal way without using those, but there are cases where his power is used to do impossible stuff, and for a killer with an already great power, having that option is just excessive, you may say that is hard to pull these techs off but i believe that a broken mechanic is to considered as such even if it's really hard to do, that said i believe that blight would feel fine by just reworking his overperforming add-ons as you said so probably i wouldn't prioritize fixing his "techs" for sure, still his "techs" are clearly a goofy ass broken bug
@@MrCell-o His "techs" are all a derivative of the hug tech. Its easy to spot when a blight is doing this as he has to start his rush looking down, and can only be done on flat objects with no janky collision. I think the issues people have with blight and their lack of understanding of him and his counterplay are pushed onto his techs. If you pit a blight without the op add-ons vs a survivor who knows what they are doing vs him there is nothing more skillful in this game. People will just come to hate blight more if they end up removing the hug tech, as the only real counterplay to a bump logic blight with speed add-ons is pallets.
i find your point reasonable, i think too that add-ons are the bigger problem, but i believe that talking about skillful plays in this game is worthless cause it's clearly a non competitive random driven party game, so if you are saying that without overperforming add-ons blight would be better in terms of fun for both parties with hug tech as a feature i can only respectfully disagree cause i find it unfair and i think an intelligent blight that use it when it gives him advatage would be straight boring to face and unfun, i mean people were defending the use of horrendous resolutions to have an advantage some time ago in this game so i don't believe experienced blights are defending hug tech just for fun purposes but i can misunderstood what i saw and tested about it so i could change my mind in the future but for now imo hug tech is a bug that need fixing edit: sorry about possible grammar errors i can't reread all now and i'm not used to write a lot in english, also have a nice day
Yeah. Hopefully the mmr will adjust them accordingly and things should smooth out. It just will take a few months. I've been enjoying killer so much. But really. To the survivors that are struggling without the old Dead Hard. If you're nothing without it, did you really deserve it in the first place? Also. When I play survivor. Most of the games, I just see so much of a variety of survivor perks with no semblance of what they are going for. I just have to believe these people had a build that got nerfed and has no idea what to run. I'm still running the same 4 perks. It does suck the games I lose I do 1 to 2 Gens and those gens are the only gens that get done in the match.
I enjoyed the hell out of your point of view. I’m a survivor main I don’t use dead hard so I didn’t care about the nerf my issue I have is matchmaking it seems to be way off I cringe when I’m getting camped or tunneled or running the killer for the equivalent of 4 or 5 gens and my teammates are trying to take hits or all trying to rescue me off the hook or standing around looking lost. DO GENS, DO GENS, DO GENS I don’t get why these survivors hate doing generators. The amount of unskilled players that play and have the nerve to have TTV at the end of their name is crazy.
I get that doing gens is boring for most survivors (including me gens are boring as hell) but you can't sit there and complain about losing when you didn't even try to win. Some survivors have to recognize that doing gens is how you win the game no matter how boring it is. Maybe some time in the future gens will become more interactive or maybe survivors will have more objectives. But anyway I can absolutely relate to the feeling of frustration when survivors are just dicking around instead of doing the objective.
@@matthews4424 Before, it was due to altruism, lack of tactics in using the hook timer to do free gens, and live forever giving bp bonus per protection hit and unhook safe. Maybe if they had a reward for whomever did the first/most gens, people would then try to farm that instead.
You can really tell the good survivors from the "good" survivors now that skill isn't based on if you hit the base kit bring about world peace button for distance or in a panic. Survivors are complaining out the ass about solo que but from the survivor I've played, unless it's like, a Nurse who's sick of survivors existing or a Bubba who...well, is Bubba, his natural habitat is your face, I haven't been camped or tunneled at all besides the usual "All's door open, gotta secure my kill" which frankly, I respect, if the doors are being 99ed as I'm bring hooked I'm kinda expecting they'll try to secure a kill I feel like most tunneling issues come from survivors getting off the hook, instantly taking a hit, T-Bagging 3 times, spinning their macro to make the killer go deaf from clicks and whining when they can't dead hard to instantly get away with it. Because I've been playing survivor from low MMR to a decent, more mid tier MMR, and gotta say...I've not encountered any of the bullshit level of tunneling the DBD Redditors have
Funny cuz I've gotten a lot of Huntress, Spirits, Blights, Dredges, Nemesi, and Sadakos tunneling off hook immediately at 5 gens. Huntress is kinda common anyways but I'm seeing it a lot more than I used to. Spirit just came back cuz they can hump people's backs again now that iron will is dead and no one is gonna use 2 perks JUST to be able to play the game against one killer. I rarely see Bubba's face camping nowadays, but I didn't see them do it that often before the patch(except certain players who were just dicks in general). Bubbas and Hillbillies are generally the MORE fun killers to go against, but are much more rare, since they actually play the game instead of trying to rush people to hooks as fast as possible.
@@jonp1952 I've seen one or two Huntress do proper camping but those few times were because she had basement, because basement huntress is a pain in the rear to escape from if she can nail close range shots, and she saw 2 or 3 survivors were already there. We didn't give her much reason to leave so she stuck around, a smart idea. As for the others, ain't really see em tunnel. I've as of now seen a small handful of Ghostfaces camping and tunneling, but I haven't seen enough campers and tunnelers to cry games dead like everybody else seems to be doing now Also frankly, I don't play Spirit like, at all, but I honestly don't mind her getting that small buff. I feel like if one fairly common perk literally counters your entire gameplan flawlessly, something is wrong with the game. No perk should be able to effortlessly and effectively cancel out your own ability to play because they simply equipped it, while it's annoying to not have 100% sound muting, it only ever NEEDED 100% on cheeky stupid plays (which can just be done with any med kit and Bite The Bullet), or against exactly Spirit to screw exactly her...or against Killers who have their volume so high they won't be able to hear you for long before they lose all hearing
@@jonp1952 Dried Cherry Blossom, coming within 4 metres of a Survivor during a Phase Walk will trigger Killer Instinct. You already couldnt mind game her if she was competent, now they just arent being forced into bringing one add-on which is now far less needed, its still strong but onw not a requirement of playing Spirit
@@oranbluethorn3956 People stopped playing her when the Strider changes happened(at least that's when I assume they stopped playing her). I didn't know she had an addon pass but even then I highly doubt a Spirit would use that addon very much, and the fact that she no longer NEEDS to use it gives her access to stronger addons.
Yes I’m glad that you mentioned how even with the buffs to killer this update the 12 hook no tunneling, camping, or slugging playstyle is not realistic. Survivors would have to be massively nerfed for that to be viable, but for some reason most of the playerbase still doesn’t seem to understand that.
Tunneling is often the only viable tactic against good swf. But when used against solo q or medium swfs, it becomes op. Find a survivor, hook, camp the hook by proxy, chase down the survivor again, hook again. If they are good at chase but not finding survivors, they can reduce the people doing gens by 1 and then 2 periodically. With Dead Man's switch, that becomes a great slow down. Good swfs will rotate who gets chased, so they will try to keep safe those on death hook. If the killer plays into that, they'll lose 1-2 gens per chase, and at the end, there'll be 4 survivors ready to blody block to exit gate, and the exit gates will be 99% 19s after the last gen pops. The issue is that the killer hsa to tunnel early for it to be effective. But they don't know what type of survivor players they are facing. This uncertainty causes a lot of people to use conservative tactics, as it makes things less stressful. Sweat Based gameplay.
Naw, fuck ds, leave it at 3 seconds. Bring it back and we’re gonna be back at square with old meta basically still here after 6 years. DS, breakable, bt, etc. with bt still being a thing (that got buffed) there’s really no reason to complain a 3 sec timer especially considering the same ppl complaining about it are just gonna run ds 2.0 anyway. Knowing how the bad map design in terms of loops still isn’t addressed, if you get downed 60 seconds after a unhook despite all the easy ways to stall out a chase (predrop pallets, buffed bt, sprint burst after unhook for example)that’s your fault. Plus the last thing we need on a patch to address the lack of perk variety is give survivors all the more reason to gravitate to the same boring perks again because why use deju vu when you can use a perk that punishes a killer for downing you and another that takes away all counter play (that still didn’t get nerfed btw despite being meta). Plus with wglf being buffed to power creep soul guard, there’s reason to complain about slugging anymore.
Before this update, everytime I saw a survivor win a chase because of a single key a part of my soul died, now, everytime I see a survivor try to Dead Hard for distance a part of my soul comes back to life
Hey the entity is returning the pieces it ate from killer taking it survs again
nature is healing
It went from “F***ING DEAD HARRRRRD!!!” to “Ooooh, nice job David.”
I still wanna rip his legs off for teabagging me but at least he’s good at using the new dead hard
Interesting enough, channeling with keys lets you lose collision with the killer. Love waiting under windows as the killer vaults through and runs the opposite direction
they deleted the E, so now it should be called Dab Hard
It's funny that you can actually see who played dead hard before the update just by seeing how they loop
Not true tho, I always looped while being greedy, I still loop like a greedy piece of shack.
@@psq_gamer no i mean that These survivors play like orang utans. They don't know how to loop without dead hard they literally can't mindgame anything without it
@@Darkfire-1306 I mean DH is still a clutch perk with the Helicopter Tech, so they could still play recklessly like before ig.
@@psq_gamer it don't give you guaranteed distance and it needs a bit more skill than the old one so it's fine for me
@@psq_gamer lol i didnt use dh and also do that dont drop pallet even when i really should
Honestly I feel like a lot of people who complain about tunneling were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. As a killer main I literally just attack anyone I find 1st. If I find you. I find you.
If you run into the killer again that's kind of on you more so than the killer.
Yeah but when tunneling they also camp so yeah not fun but once killers get there anger out maybe it will be less again
@@eggmin8967 The difference between an angry killer is he will hit you on hook and not pay attention to the rest of the game. The tactical ones are proxy camping and trying to do multiple things at the same time, and will lock unto the hook if he sees a person's trying to rescue.
@@karimsonsafehold9233 the reason i say that is cus when its anything but nurse or legion they do that
As a fellow killer I do this aswell, if survivors keep running into me they're just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Or maybe they have DS idk I can never tell
We can feel that ur a big tunnel boi trying to justify himself 🤣🤣
It’s actually so depressing to watch as of today.
Dead Hard turned out to be stronger in good hands than before, and it’s now yet again the most common survivor perk
I'm finally having fun playing as killer again and even when I play survivor I see killers in chat being happy, nice, friendly in the way they talk
I saw some post game replies like "So this is how it feels to play against a lobby with no dead hards? I love this game"
People are getting together, the atmosphere is getting warmer and it's all thanks to a murder of a villainous perk
People will adapt and learn how to loop again, give them a month or two, but for now... Let. Them. Cry. (•̀ω•́ )
yesterday i read some steam discussions. man those people were upset. honestly as a surv main, because of the stupid mechanics killers had to counter, im really excited to play killer without any worry.
@@niksin9941 im loving it even if i hit a dh i dont care it feels way better than the old one cus it does something
If you didn't have fun before, that's a you problem LMFAO Somebody can't bait
@@Lecruidant average only survivor player
and if you arent you still suck
@@Lecruidant cry
7:08 Killer queue times have gotten longer for me overhall, Like, in the morning and afternoon, killer queues are slow as usual, but even in the evening and at night, I still have to wait a few minutes to get a game instead of the usual instant queue pre- 6.1.0 patch :/
It depends a lot on mmr. If your mmr is too high, it will try to make you wait 3-5 minutes to find a match, and then only let you play against either newbies or swf really above your grade. There are dead zones in the timezones, but they shouldn't last more than 1-2 hours.
7:05 This right here is probably the biggest factor for me in having easier games on killer. I see who the weak link probably is. And there's usually one guy that's prestige 15+, and I don't have to waste precious time that first chase figuring out he's not a good survivor to chase.
“E” to tell the killer you didn’t read the patch note
Definitely having a lot more fun running Overcome + Lightweight along with Inner Strength or just a brown medkit just to immediately lose the killer, however yeah I've been seeing a lot more camping killers now and a couple that just tunnel through DS, almost every game with these killers I will hit DS, and it doesn't seem to matter because 1. I still don't get anywhere super useful, at best I loop the killer for another 30 seconds or so, and 2. although Gens are only 10 seconds slower, my teammates would rather crouch and hide on the other side of the map instead of doing generators.
Survivor mains absolutely seething at how they aren't actually as good as they think they are
One thing they should add is being able to see your teammate's loadout so there isn't any suprises for you
Dead hard rant 2: electic bungaloo coming when?
What's the background music? Reminds me of McBurberry.
I love the new deadhard, that comes from a survivor main. Its even better than the old DH in some situations, saved me so many times and it was really easy to learn imo.
I mean I still see atleast 2 to 3 dh in all of my games.
Honestly I feel like I am seeing more Dh now that I use to some how. Also, the way DH is noe typically used is still doing goofy stuff under the killers chin, running under a pallet and guessing if they have it trying to get pixel perfect swings or givibg them 100% value by lunging
Still gotta treat everyone like they have it making it have value for just existing still.
When you still need to go for a pre-flight checklist before you can swing. Yeah nothing changed in it's end result of trying not to be a 3rd health state
Zach Ward being a mean killer main
Survivors who relied on DH have been so bad and when i met survivors that had ditched DH before the update had been great!
For real this channel needs more subs
I mean like 627000 atleast
just because we don't know how good we have it and how bad it was in your days doesn't mean OUR FEELING ARE INVALID, DAD
(that's pretty much it, I wanted to say something afterwards to make this comment seem a bit more reasonable but I can't find anything remotely interesting in my little peanut brain)
I'm fairly sure the slavery built the pyramids idea, got dismissed by lack of evidence.
i play survivor with my friends i usually main killer i never use dead hard i said "it's gonna get nerfed at some point" "no it's not!" *recently gets nerfed* "finally we get to see more survivors use different perks" my Friends "but but" "just use what i do Urban Evasion,Burrowed time,no one left behind and the perk that boosts healing for 60 seconds after unhooking a survivor
I think I agree with everything that was said in this video.
Your analogies are godlike xD
Double whammied me as a Hag and Claudette player. Oof. But tbh I always play with respect, and of personal preference never tunnel. I'll still usually say gg at the end of a game. But I love for the snoot boop moments.
5:00
Thank you this is so true why would I want to be nice to people who could end up tea nagging me at the gates
Since the patch i started using and i have been enjoying it.
Also i relized that it straight up could garentee a free extension of chase with no effort
Edit:new one u have a split second and have to get hit to get value most of the time compared to the old which just need to line up to the vault or pallet
finally the survivors need to survive
honestly I proud of myself that I never used dead hard
Builds character and cholesterol 💀
I never used dead hard to begin with and I feel like its even easier for me now because of off the record and other changes. I don't intentionally tunnel people but if I just happen to run into the person I previously hooked too bad. You just happen to step in my trap, you just happen to be the person my aura showed on the map etc. too bad.
People that constantly complain about solo q being the sole reason for their bad experience, why don’t you just play with your friends? Solo q has always been this way forever, yet u still queue up by yourself knowing what you’ll encounter?
My only problem is that nurse didn t got nerfed.
I want to see some of the buffs to killer get slightly reduced, but not altogether go away. I want to see the duration of the speed boost for getting hit as a survivor go back to 3 seconds. I like that DH is an extremely skill based perk now and agree with you that it was a stupidly broken perk for survivors. I hate what they did to Botany Knowledge, I used to love this perk and bring it nearly every game now I never use it, the -53% item efficiency for +13% heal speed feels like a HUUUGE nerf to a perk that wasn't that good or stapled to the meta to begin with. Me and my friends used to have somewhere between a 40 - 50% escape rate as survivors when we played together which I think is pretty reasonable. Now we have like a 10 - 20% escape rate which is ridiculous. Granted there's a skill gap between us, but it's hard to convince them to play the game anymore. I miss playing this game with my friends is all. =/
I want to see what the kill rates look like after this patch. From my own anecdotal experience it's going to be INSANELY high.
The patch just outed the big baby survivor mains with them getting greedy in a loop, killing themselves on first hook, then going to social media to cry about how they were tunneled and camped.
its not "killer sided" its just not (as) perk sided anymore
I’ve been playing dbd for years never have I ever used dh cause I don’t know which character has it
LOL funny video man! Especially at the end there.
"Passive gen slow down bad for the game"
10000000% agreed 👍
I didnt used to run dead hard and now I do and it's exhaustion mettle of man 😂😭
The real ones know that Sprint Burst has always been better anyway. This update has brought out a lot of 4 slowdown Nurses and Blights at my MMR though and a lot of facecamping too. I don't care much about tunneling but facecamping is so boring and they didn't increase the hook times. I don't care if facecamping is fun for some people, it should just not exist at all just like old Dead Hard.
They should introduce the mechanics of dying light into the base, but if the maniac is next to the hook then the survivor dies 50% slower, so the be encouraged and killer will camp less
@@sansgaster4877 Exactly and make it only apply if the killer isn't in chase that way survivors can't just loop the hook. Very simple way of fixing camping.
Man I love your videos
Please upload more man I love watching your videos
I love this guys videos
personally as a survivor main, I was perfectly fine with the dead hard update. not so happy about ds being brutally murdered though. and dadly due to the nerf to ds, so far i've experienced so much tunneling, because even if you're running ds, like a idiot, it's a 3 second stun which means literally nothing. it annoys me endlessly, but sadly it's just seems to be the new norm
I can't hear this video over the sound of thousands of kids crying that they can't press E to outplay anymore.
Schadenfreude about DH kids aside, you're 100% right about tunneling. Anyone who's "getting tunneled and killed every game" needs to face the fact that they're just bad at chases. Good survivors don't get tunneled because they waste too much of the killer's time. Get good.
I like the update for both sides. The killer feels like the actual power role. Survivors feel like an epic up hill battle that makes Escapes feel great. Killer finally feels like a murder fantasy simulator.
True. Finally the killers feels like a treat instead of the survivors.
Most of the time I feel like the game was easy when I win as survivor because the killer was bad. I don't get the same feeling you do when playing survivor at all.
Killer has always been the power role, just because you're bad at it doesn't make it not so
@@julianrosado1592 not as much as the survivor are.
Hot take: they'll fuck it up during the holidays. No really, haven't you noticed the trend of December-March DBD sucking major ass?
The new build variety warms my soul. I’ve been using Any Means Necessary (save resources) and Repressed Alliance (counter kicking regression perks) and it’s been way more fun and rewarding.
Hell yeah! I finally feel free to use the perks I wanna use.
Repressed Alliance gang! Something about blocking a gen in a killer's face is so satisfying.
@@splinter4161 blast mine + repressed alliance is so funny to use too
By build variety you mean random perks because nothing is good rn. In 30 days every survivor will run the same 4 perks again.
@@na976 "Nothing is good"
Sounds like a skill issue, lmaoooo
@@na976 A lot of survivors are already running the same perks again. The only difference is the names of them and their usefulness being worse than the originals. Same for killers, except their version of regression can be better than previously. Really don't know what people are talking about build variety.
It’s funny how I’m actually using DH a lot more now than I used to pre-update. It feels more rewarding to use now than it used to.
I hated pre-patch Dead hard with a fucking passion, now i run it all the time on survivor it's a fun perk to use.
im glad someone else also likes new dead hard
I’m thinking of using it now since I focus on healing my teammates more than myself and I have for the people so it would really come in handy
Dead Hard is now a skill based perk, thank god. Still good if you time it right with the speed-boost and all but now single celled organisms can’t press one button to live :)
Bold of you to assume survivors will use something that requires skill 😂
@@hotpotato6966 I use Dead Hard, it's still in my basekit. Now, what about me then?
@@psq_gamer Ah, you again. The toxic twat who singlehandedly makes this game worse for everyone. The community is worse for having you here man :/
@Lars Liam Vilhelm I mean, half a second ain’t long to predict or react to a killer strike, and most people fuck it up as a result
@Lars Liam Vilhelm what that is literally how perks work. You need to know how to use them in order for them to work???
coming out here and speaking my mind, as always. solo queue has always had its problems but lately there's been an epidemic of people just giving up at first down or first hook that ruins a lot of games. i've seen it as killer too despite how clear it is that survivors can still pose a real challenge for the killer without their precious "E".
nobody does gens its first hook before the first gen is popped and everyone gives up and sprints into killer and tries to loop after free hit
I also saw a lot more trappers on the release of the knight on Xbox
Dead hard ended up in a wheelchair after carrying survivors on its back for so long rip you won't be missed
You were right on your patch notes review. There may have been a period right after the patch where survivors were scrambling because they didn't know how to use new DH properly, but ohohoooo is new DH better than old DH in skilled hands.
After the update I found out I had the most fun as a killer AND survivor! I always felt bad for using dead hard poorly, thinking myself shit at survivor. Now I know that yes, I am, and so is everyone else ! XD
new dead hard being dead surely aged well
Wish you did an experiment video where in one games sample you play chill/don't tunnel and in the other you tunnel the shit out of survivors. Kind of the "Difference between nice/evil killer playstyle results" video
I have thought about a video like that but at the end of the day I don't want to purposefully ruin someones game for content. Otz's no perk run on every killer shows the real strength of tunneling without mercy if you haven't seen it
So, if the survivors do not like the (new) dead hard, then they are just bad at the game, cant loop and cry about it. But if you do not like the (old) dead hard, then you play well and just express your opinion? Is that how it works?
see this guy gets it!
I love your videos and your edits, please never stop making videos. They make my day every time.
Overcome and lucky break have become such a fun combo now .
Every time someone successfully times a dead hard on me I smile. Since the update this maybe happened once or twice but my jaw dropped each time. I'm sure that people will stop complaining eventually too. Maybe thana does have some issues and gen slowdown does suck for solo que but I think this update is mostly fine.
Yeah when dh it is real nice now and have some respect and thana needs to be back to wat it was
hard times (2016) create strong survivors, strong survivors create good times (2018) good times create weak survivors (dead hard generation) weak survivors create bad times (2022 fuck dead hard lul)
4real they just dont see how good they have had it
first off I have given killers a 3-6 minute first chase and they tunneled me because they were back at hook they wanted me out in a situation where I cant defend myself(2 health states etc) now I didnt start taking off the record yet and it turns out Overcome is useless vs being hard tunneled lol but the fact is, sometimes not USUALLY but sometimes the long first chase just makes them camp/tunnel you.
Its shitty being killer cause no matter what you'll either get abused in game or in the chat afterward. I would always try to go for the survivor saving the hook and then the survivor off the hook had BT and they body blocked for the other survivor and so I downed them right after, then I got blamed for tunneling. So there's no winning.
@@NativeMadness Just don't go to exit gates if ther eare more than 2 survivors there, and turn off the chat box.
I did that the day of the mid patch on my wraith. Due to match making weirdness, there was one really good survivor with 3 regular survivors. This super survivor found an infinite loop in the greenhouse of the Garden of Joy map. Took about 4 generators worth of time, but the survivors only popped out 2-3 gens.
By the time I hooked that person, I needed them out of the game because if they were unhooked, they were just too good for me to catch before end game collapse. So I just stood there and when other survivors (solo q) looked at me at a distance, Ishook my camera at them. Someone tried to save the person when I turned my back, so I turned around and grabbed em, then dropped. The person died on the hook, and the 3 survivors and I had a normal game afterwards.
They ended up mostly dying since they were not that great at chases and tactics. I let 1-2 escape with pts.
This person made no mistakes in the loop, read my mind games, and looked like they were face smashing into the wall, that kind of looping survivor squeezing every bit out of the angles. They also chained together different tiles, not just one loop tile, and went back and forth.
I love the new Dead Hard, nobody uses it because they think it is bad, so killers never expect you to use it, and once they know you have it, they are REALLY afraid to swing into you.
Unless it’s bubba then you should still worry
dead hard is still really strong and carries me far more than any other perk
True,but the good thing is now you actually need skill to use it, unlike before when it was just “press E, win game”
Copium
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sprint burst, anti tunnel perk
I actually like the new Dead Hard as an unhook perk instead of regular exhaustion perk. It doesn't go away like OTR or BT and if I'm already using anothet exhaustion perk the killer doesn't expect me to still have it after an unhook.
Try Dead Hard+Overcome.
Survivor mains from /r/DeadByDaylight need to hear the first 2 minutes of this video. So much bitching on that sub
I like being tunneled. Getting chased is the most fun part of the game for me and if I can skip the holding M1 and only get chased that’s a pretty fun game.
I used to run old deadhard, and honestly i think this change is fair. You need to find the perfect timing or opportunity to use it instead of mindlessly using it to just extend chases. I'm still gonna run D.H so i get better at it.
"Back in my day we all go tunneled out of the game at the same time! It builds character.. and cholesterol!" 😂🤣
1:10
my man turned into a fucking blight
Idk, steel running 3-5 gens, always get in the face camping and die first. What did i wrong? My teammates go down in 10 second. I am "weakness"? Because try to help tm without any exhausted perk and steel running more than 10 sec.
Yeah solo que sucks
People might be celebrating the DH nerf but since every survivor main is whining on Twitter begging to nerf killers. I know BHVR very well, and I’m calling it now: killer’s are going to get nerfed hard.
It’s sad. They expect being able to easily bully the killer to be basekit and for the killer to ignore and respect every action they do to make it “fair and not toxic”.
“Nobody plays to have fun anymore” guy is out here forgetting the purpose of video games
It’s entertainment, not a job
I'm tired of people comparing someone with a bad attitude to video game perks.
I absolutely despise people crying about perks and then carrying on to be the most scummy player they can be. Just go on with your day and stop acting like you own the truth. Because the sad truth is that you're all wrong.
Killer mains : devs don't owe you a game with only fair perks so that you can 4k at will.
Survivor mains : devs don't owe you a game with only weak killers you can bully when you feel like it.
Both sides should stop acting like it's a war and think about having fun playing the game, not having fun at the expense of the other side.
If your only joy on a video game is to ruin other people's days, you're an ass. Period. There's no justifying that, no matter how hard you try.
That is all I have to say.
I'm just glad not to see Dead Hard in every damn build as a Survivor who never used it. It's so boring, it's always been boring. I have a bigger issue with them pointlessly nerfing Iron Will to transfer its effects onto Off the Record along with the other buffs that perk got.
This is by far the best dbd channel keep the pog work
I live in Brazil, and Killer Queue times are way worse than before the update, with survivor queue taking about 10 seconds while killer takes an average of 4 minutes.
But at least I don't have to sniff every survivors ass for 30 seconds waiting for them to press E, so far trade I suppose
If u disliked this video ur a cry baby ass survivor main. Y’all will do anything but actually get good.
4:30 the pyrimids werent actually built by slaves, that's a common misconception
also the new dh nerf sound great! too bad i play on mobile so i cant enjoy it :(
Gen regression perks shouldn’t stack. I think that once that is fixed the game will be fine. I just don’t want to do gens for 25 mins and then everyone dies at 4 gens
My friends and I played day 1 and 2 of the update and it was the worst of the worst in terms of killers playing in “unfun” ways. Camping, tunneling, 4 slowdown perks etc. After that things evened out, thankfully. I think people really just wanted to see how bad things could be.
A lot of people were testing new builds and how to break the new system. When BHVR says they will downgrade tunneling and camping, killers are motivated to test how this changes the tactics.
Not having to deal with a 3rd health state for 4 survivors, and the fact that survivors can't run as far after a hit, decreases the pressure on the killer and increases it for survivors that are altruistic, do body blocks, and are hanging around the killer all day instead of doing gens/totems.
2:48 Oh my god that angle 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
mad because survivor bad lol (this goes out to that one guy who said mad because killer bad)
We did it boys, we have meme’d and/or ranted dead hard into unexistence😎
cheers
"Killers tunnel the bad survivor'' Lol most of the time i get tunneled it's bc killers were mad to chase me for 2/3 gen, this argument is clearly not true.
Yeah the over commit
It built character and cholesterol lol 🥸
Dead Hard is still easy af to use imo. You just need to bait it in the correct way.
I already solved this issue for myself and for my squad, in fact it even got a buff imho.
Sounds about right. You've got kids complaining about how the game is unbalanced because they need to improve as players. They absolutely deserve this patch and I love it, but they just call me a bitter killer main. Good to see a RUclipsr with sense who isn't selling out with the "Solo Survivor Experience" videos just to rake in views and rile survivors up.
Hope we get an ocean themed killer, and it's a type of whale...a Killer Whale.
an island with a broken down pirate ship so that the recent sea-related skins make sense.
i want to say 2 things, first one is that i like your content and i hope you keep making it, second i usually just laugh at people that defend stuff like old DH, omegablink or blightclearlybroken techs because imo that stuff shouldn't exist in a party game like this one, not for strict balancing purposes but a lot of sad people try to destroy fun in every context and will use every instrument of balls destruction just for that, so devs should destroy overperforming stuff without giving a dong about that players, having fun is the only purpose of this kind of games.
Bonus random mini rants:
1)Talking about competitive dbd is clowns (not the beautiful dbd character) material
2)Camping and tunneling are "strategies" that favor static gameplay that imo is what a game of "catch the escaping teen" should avoid as much as possible
3)Nurse is broken, that's it, it's like putting an extended magazine automatic giga caliber rifle in a western game, and no essay or ispirational speech will never change that
Have a nice day reading people
I hate saying this so often, but blights who use techs will lose more than people who play him normally. The techs you think make him strong do the opposite, they are just fun.
Edit: the only thing that needs to be nerfed about blight is a few add-ons.
What you say is true, if you try those "techs" often you probably will loose more than a blight that play his power in an optimal way without using those, but there are cases where his power is used to do impossible stuff, and for a killer with an already great power, having that option is just excessive, you may say that is hard to pull these techs off but i believe that a broken mechanic is to considered as such even if it's really hard to do, that said i believe that blight would feel fine by just reworking his overperforming add-ons as you said so probably i wouldn't prioritize fixing his "techs" for sure, still his "techs" are clearly a goofy ass broken bug
@@MrCell-o His "techs" are all a derivative of the hug tech. Its easy to spot when a blight is doing this as he has to start his rush looking down, and can only be done on flat objects with no janky collision. I think the issues people have with blight and their lack of understanding of him and his counterplay are pushed onto his techs. If you pit a blight without the op add-ons vs a survivor who knows what they are doing vs him there is nothing more skillful in this game. People will just come to hate blight more if they end up removing the hug tech, as the only real counterplay to a bump logic blight with speed add-ons is pallets.
i find your point reasonable, i think too that add-ons are the bigger problem, but i believe that talking about skillful plays in this game is worthless cause it's clearly a non competitive random driven party game, so if you are saying that without overperforming add-ons blight would be better in terms of fun for both parties with hug tech as a feature i can only respectfully disagree cause i find it unfair and i think an intelligent blight that use it when it gives him advatage would be straight boring to face and unfun, i mean people were defending the use of horrendous resolutions to have an advantage some time ago in this game so i don't believe experienced blights are defending hug tech just for fun purposes but i can misunderstood what i saw and tested about it so i could change my mind in the future but for now imo hug tech is a bug that need fixing
edit: sorry about possible grammar errors i can't reread all now and i'm not used to write a lot in english, also have a nice day
Yeah. Hopefully the mmr will adjust them accordingly and things should smooth out. It just will take a few months. I've been enjoying killer so much.
But really. To the survivors that are struggling without the old Dead Hard. If you're nothing without it, did you really deserve it in the first place?
Also. When I play survivor. Most of the games, I just see so much of a variety of survivor perks with no semblance of what they are going for. I just have to believe these people had a build that got nerfed and has no idea what to run. I'm still running the same 4 perks. It does suck the games I lose I do 1 to 2 Gens and those gens are the only gens that get done in the match.
Nice video!
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i don’t know why but dead hard is just better for me now
I enjoyed the hell out of your point of view. I’m a survivor main I don’t use dead hard so I didn’t care about the nerf my issue I have is matchmaking it seems to be way off I cringe when I’m getting camped or tunneled or running the killer for the equivalent of 4 or 5 gens and my teammates are trying to take hits or all trying to rescue me off the hook or standing around looking lost. DO GENS, DO GENS, DO GENS I don’t get why these survivors hate doing generators. The amount of unskilled players that play and have the nerve to have TTV at the end of their name is crazy.
I get that doing gens is boring for most survivors (including me gens are boring as hell) but you can't sit there and complain about losing when you didn't even try to win. Some survivors have to recognize that doing gens is how you win the game no matter how boring it is. Maybe some time in the future gens will become more interactive or maybe survivors will have more objectives. But anyway I can absolutely relate to the feeling of frustration when survivors are just dicking around instead of doing the objective.
Bit off topic but man I hate TTV players
gens are pretty boring so it is more fun getting protection hits.
@@matthews4424 Before, it was due to altruism, lack of tactics in using the hook timer to do free gens, and live forever giving bp bonus per protection hit and unhook safe. Maybe if they had a reward for whomever did the first/most gens, people would then try to farm that instead.
cope and seethe survivor mains... cope and seethe
"they are the dead hard generation" XD
3:41 you explained that perfectly
There’s a guy with an on going 300-500 streak
On going because he stopped playing lol but you get the just
You can really tell the good survivors from the "good" survivors now that skill isn't based on if you hit the base kit bring about world peace button for distance or in a panic. Survivors are complaining out the ass about solo que but from the survivor I've played, unless it's like, a Nurse who's sick of survivors existing or a Bubba who...well, is Bubba, his natural habitat is your face, I haven't been camped or tunneled at all besides the usual "All's door open, gotta secure my kill" which frankly, I respect, if the doors are being 99ed as I'm bring hooked I'm kinda expecting they'll try to secure a kill
I feel like most tunneling issues come from survivors getting off the hook, instantly taking a hit, T-Bagging 3 times, spinning their macro to make the killer go deaf from clicks and whining when they can't dead hard to instantly get away with it. Because I've been playing survivor from low MMR to a decent, more mid tier MMR, and gotta say...I've not encountered any of the bullshit level of tunneling the DBD Redditors have
Funny cuz I've gotten a lot of Huntress, Spirits, Blights, Dredges, Nemesi, and Sadakos tunneling off hook immediately at 5 gens. Huntress is kinda common anyways but I'm seeing it a lot more than I used to. Spirit just came back cuz they can hump people's backs again now that iron will is dead and no one is gonna use 2 perks JUST to be able to play the game against one killer. I rarely see Bubba's face camping nowadays, but I didn't see them do it that often before the patch(except certain players who were just dicks in general). Bubbas and Hillbillies are generally the MORE fun killers to go against, but are much more rare, since they actually play the game instead of trying to rush people to hooks as fast as possible.
@@jonp1952 I've seen one or two Huntress do proper camping but those few times were because she had basement, because basement huntress is a pain in the rear to escape from if she can nail close range shots, and she saw 2 or 3 survivors were already there. We didn't give her much reason to leave so she stuck around, a smart idea. As for the others, ain't really see em tunnel. I've as of now seen a small handful of Ghostfaces camping and tunneling, but I haven't seen enough campers and tunnelers to cry games dead like everybody else seems to be doing now
Also frankly, I don't play Spirit like, at all, but I honestly don't mind her getting that small buff. I feel like if one fairly common perk literally counters your entire gameplan flawlessly, something is wrong with the game. No perk should be able to effortlessly and effectively cancel out your own ability to play because they simply equipped it, while it's annoying to not have 100% sound muting, it only ever NEEDED 100% on cheeky stupid plays (which can just be done with any med kit and Bite The Bullet), or against exactly Spirit to screw exactly her...or against Killers who have their volume so high they won't be able to hear you for long before they lose all hearing
@@oranbluethorn3956 Iron Will being dead is not a SMALL buff. It's a crazy ridiculous buff because you cannot mind game her anymore.
@@jonp1952 Dried Cherry Blossom, coming within 4 metres of a Survivor during a Phase Walk will trigger Killer Instinct. You already couldnt mind game her if she was competent, now they just arent being forced into bringing one add-on which is now far less needed, its still strong but onw not a requirement of playing Spirit
@@oranbluethorn3956 People stopped playing her when the Strider changes happened(at least that's when I assume they stopped playing her). I didn't know she had an addon pass but even then I highly doubt a Spirit would use that addon very much, and the fact that she no longer NEEDS to use it gives her access to stronger addons.
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Yes I’m glad that you mentioned how even with the buffs to killer this update the 12 hook no tunneling, camping, or slugging playstyle is not realistic. Survivors would have to be massively nerfed for that to be viable, but for some reason most of the playerbase still doesn’t seem to understand that.
Tunneling is often the only viable tactic against good swf. But when used against solo q or medium swfs, it becomes op.
Find a survivor, hook, camp the hook by proxy, chase down the survivor again, hook again. If they are good at chase but not finding survivors, they can reduce the people doing gens by 1 and then 2 periodically. With Dead Man's switch, that becomes a great slow down. Good swfs will rotate who gets chased, so they will try to keep safe those on death hook. If the killer plays into that, they'll lose 1-2 gens per chase, and at the end, there'll be 4 survivors ready to blody block to exit gate, and the exit gates will be 99% 19s after the last gen pops.
The issue is that the killer hsa to tunnel early for it to be effective. But they don't know what type of survivor players they are facing. This uncertainty causes a lot of people to use conservative tactics, as it makes things less stressful. Sweat Based gameplay.
@@karimsonsafehold9233 Totally right.
Naw, fuck ds, leave it at 3 seconds. Bring it back and we’re gonna be back at square with old meta basically still here after 6 years. DS, breakable, bt, etc. with bt still being a thing (that got buffed) there’s really no reason to complain a 3 sec timer especially considering the same ppl complaining about it are just gonna run ds 2.0 anyway. Knowing how the bad map design in terms of loops still isn’t addressed, if you get downed 60 seconds after a unhook despite all the easy ways to stall out a chase (predrop pallets, buffed bt, sprint burst after unhook for example)that’s your fault. Plus the last thing we need on a patch to address the lack of perk variety is give survivors all the more reason to gravitate to the same boring perks again because why use deju vu when you can use a perk that punishes a killer for downing you and another that takes away all counter play (that still didn’t get nerfed btw despite being meta). Plus with wglf being buffed to power creep soul guard, there’s reason to complain about slugging anymore.
So, the solution is... git gud