To be honest I’m just glad this raid’s weapons are good. That wasn’t… exactly the case back in D1. I mean I had a Smite of Merain with firefly so that was… neat. That said, the rest of em ranged from mediocre to bad. Friend of mine used to say he’d be able to pay his loans by the time he finished reloading Zaouli’s Bane….. and we were in med school at the time.
@@thoriumbrother That's alright. Some guns just feel good to use. I don't recall if the machine gun was good, but I know it *felt* good. Had a nice, chonky feedback to it.
The kf weapons feel so amazing its genuinely impressive. I don't even like most of these archetypes but they just feel so nice they're impossible to dislike
The reload animation on zaoulis bane is horrible. It finished the animation before the gun is actually reloaded so i keep cancelling the reload thinking its done when its not
I do like how the flesh parts of the gun stays the same on shaders so you could recreate the hallowed look from D1. Also I do hope bungie adds the missing raid weapons to vog and kf for more variety in drops cause I think there’s a few loot overlaps in kf
The interesting thing here is Firefly can take the place of a Reload perk on many of these guns since it's basically Outlaw+Dragonfly bundled together, which basically gives you the Reload+Damage combo with with extra explosions. (Especially on Doom of Chelchis.)
Minor correction I suppose, on Smite of Merain Firefly can also bump your reload speed without needing to be near teammates, Stats for All isn’t the only option for reload
In my opinion I don't really like how stats for all/one for all works in all guns, but in the case of smite of Merain I would probably use focused fury vorpal and it's a really solid pulse for gms
Doom of Chelchis with Adaptive / frenzy is gonna be awesome for GMs when unstoppable scout comes back around. Grabbing the firefly / dragonfly roll on it too just for fun with friends, but the real goal for me in crafting is the zaouli's bane with incandescent to straight up just be legendary sunshot.
Unrelenting on an lmg (especially in the 3rd column) is actually top tier, highly recommend it. Especially with firefly for ad clear and solar / warmind cell synergy on a stasis weapon. Also killing tally for more damage and healing at the same time.
Explosive Payload/One for All on the scout. Super easy dual damage perks. It's nice. And Explosive Payload/Incandescent Zaouli's is a legendary Sunshot that scorches.
I have a bit of an issue with the Quillim's Terminus, and almost all Stasis weapons, for that matter. I should preface that this is less of an issue for the Kinetic slot because that slot doesn't provide you with the option to use a Light element weapon anyways, so this is more about the heavy stasis weapons. Assuming you are playing PvE, there is no reason to be using a stasis weapon unless you are running Headstone or Chill Clip on that weapon. Two major reasons: -Very rarely do we see stasis singe, and when we do it's in something like strikes where it hardly even matters. So you're better off using a Solar/Arc/Void weapon to benefit from the active singe. -There are no enemies with Stasis shields. You don't get to explode shields by matching the color and you also don't get to pop ANY shield in match game content (basically any endgame lol). The entire reason you use a Stasis weapon is to benefit from those exclusive Stasis weapon perks. Nothing more, and (more importantly) nothing less. Just felt I should say this because I see a lot of people get hyped about Firefly, Firing Line, etc. on this machine gun when really if you don't roll Headstone, you may as well use an older machine gun that has a light element with that same perk you're so excited about on the Quillim's. With all that said, the King's Fall weapons are dope (including Quillim's with headstone for some activities) and I can't wait to craft my God rolls and maybe even craft a couple different rolls of some of the guns like the Smite of Merain.
@@reeidly No, they don't count as kinetic weapons, which get a 10% damage increase from what I've heard (Eyasluna doesnt work with DB which is a kinetic weapon buff)
Man talking about all these cool weapon combos made me think it'd be interesting to have a dragonfly - headstone roll on, basically any weapon, headshot kill spawns a crystal, dragonfly breaks it so you don't have to pump ammo into it for the extra explosion, could be a neat interaction
I have stats for all / killing tally quillims and i LOVE it ! I dont usually like the 360 rpm lmgs but it has truly won me over. Love the sound and sight too
The PvP combo I’m going for with Midha’s is Backup Plan + Successful Warm up, would be great to chain quick charge kills together and Gyrfalcons pairs great with fusions :D
I am curious how would a quilems with firefly and headstone work? Would it blow up the crystal as it forms or will it just do the firefly damage and the crystal stays intact
Zaouli's is the ONLY weapon I haven't had drop for me over each of my runs. Hoping to snag one this week. Ideally, I'd like to craft each of the energy weapons from this raid
I haven't heard many people mention the backup plan kickstart roll for Midha's Reckoning. Backup plan is really only worth it on high impacts. Every other archetype it results in an extra bolt to kill. Backup plan: 30% decrease in charge time and a 20% decrease in damage. Chambered compensator, AC, backup plan and kickstart with adept charge time and charge time MW should drop charge time to 488 ms and with a 15% damage buff could 3 burst up to 197. Base charge time: 960 ms - (AC, adept charge time, charge time MW 3 × 40 ms) = 840 ms × backup plan × 0.7 = 588 ms - kickstart 100 ms = 488 ms. Switch for back up plan for 4 seconds then have 1.5 sec to sprint before kickstart ready, then have 2.5 sec to slide and charge. Damage = 62 × 0.98 × 0.98 × 0.8 × 1.2 = 57.16 × 1.15 × 3 = 197. At least theoretically.
I have a doom of chelchis crafted with arrowhead brake, tact mag, enhanced explosive payload, and enhanced frenzy. I gotta say this thing shreds through ads and majors, absolutely love this scout
I can confirm explosive frenzy fucks on doom of chelchis, however replacing frenzy with OFA is superior for endgame content. Only 2 weapons im interested in are doom and zoulis
You know those guns from Destiny 1 that just hearing the name even after all these years gives you Crucible PTSD? Qullim's Terminus was one of them (for me, at least). When you see someone melt state supers and two-shot anything else with this thing, it leaves an impression, and a strong urge to run the hell away if an opposing player has ammo for it.
Missed the chance to put snipers on the map with tripletap fourth time the charm defiance of Yasmin. Honestly I don't think it would be broken but If it was too strong they could just replace the perk they've done it with felwinters twice now
I'm glad the raid weapons brought some unique perk combo possibilities, adds some interesting flavor and experimentation. I've gotten a couple good Demo based Merains, a good Killing Tally Qullum's, and because I've gotten like 10 of them I already have a pretty good Explosive Frenzy Chelchins. Really looking forward to that Incandescent Zaouli’s I may have to craft if I can ever get a drop as solar Titan has been my main since Taken King. I know this is subjective and not a big deal but I'm not a huge fan of the design changes though. I liked the holes along the top of Smite shooting out the little flames when you shot, and the fact that the flames were a little less visible until you started firing. The scrolling pink stuff also looks a little cheap and silly compared to the bound flesh and white bone look from the D1 versions. It's the same way I felt about Fatebringer, being able to shade it is awesome but as a result we lost that nice handcrafted edgewear in the textures.
i think unique perk combos are really the best way to go for raid weapon, like this they can feel definitely strong and unique, without needing insane stat packages that might make them feel more oppressive while also not ending up in mediocrity at best, like most Last Wish guns
I’m glad to have unique raid weapons back! Some of the other raids have just looked like slightly different human weapons, i.e GoS. The KF models look so much more unique.
yeah always hate that in destiny, for a game full of crazy looking aliens, most of our "Alien guns" are either out of human scrap (fallen) or just chunky metal guns (cabal) im always really happy to see more guns that really scream "crazy alien gun" to me
These weapons have so much going for them, it's actually a little ridiculous. My personal crafting set plan (Note: I tend to favor Handling as I like my weapons feeling quick on the draw.): Smite of Merain: Arrowhead / Tac Mag / Demo / Firefly / Stability MW Defiance of Yasmin (PvP): Fluted / Accurized / Snapshot / Opening Shot / Range MW (Thoughtless is just a better PvE sniper) Midha's Reckoning: Fluted / Accelerated / Field Prep / Reservoir Burst / Handling MW Zauoli's Bane: Fluted / Flared / EP / Incandescent / Reload MW (May consider crafting a EP / Firefly one too) Doom of Chechis: Fluted / Tac Mag / Firefly / OFA / Reload MW (May make EP / Frenzy too) Qullim's Terminus: Fluted / Tac Mag / Unrelenting / Firefly / Stability MW
Anything that can roll payload/1FA is the ticket. With explosive damage, 1FA can proc on a single shot. So it's just like a constant almost 60% damage boost with almost 0 downtime
This is not correct. OFA is a 35% buff, and payload perks deal ~15% more damage to body, or precision damage can vary on enemy to enemy, but would be safe to say its still roughly around 15% for most enemies, unless they have significant crit multipliers. So, a ~50% damage buff to the body. To the head will vary depending on the enemy.
Chechlis with Firefly+One For All is my pick, basically a single kill damages opponents nearby and procs OFA - great synergy that we already had on Insidious. I really like Firefly because it also boosts the reload speed.
I was lucky. Only got one handcannon and it rolled with explosive shot and one for all. I never knew about the second perk until someone on the raid team told me. I'd prefer incandescent but free damage boost is nice
@@masonwillms2542 sounds like it. If I get it I'm throwing it on my solar hunter. Right now his proximity knife causes the scorch explosion. Then the enemies that die to that blow up again in another scorch explosion. I'm hoping incandescent will do the same in case I miss my knife
I have some good rolls on Smite of Merain, Zhaouli's Bane, Doom of Chelchis and for PvP in Midha's. I have Firefly-Focused Fury for Merain, First Shot-Focused Fury for Zhaouli's, Explosive Payload-Focused Fury for Chelchis and Auxiliar Plan-Vorpal Weapon in Midha's
I tend to prefer handling and stability as my minor perks. Managed to pull a stats/one for all Smite of Merain as well as a frenzy/steady hands Doom of Chelchis. Both random drops I'm very pleased with, although I may look to replace steady hands one of these days. I don't favor focused fury on primaries because I can't aim, though.
I got the Explosive / Incandescent Zaouli's and it's fun to fire in PVE, but I would not recommend it in PVP. Feels like the animation doesn't reset the gun's long frame fast enough to make firing it (even pacing shots) feel good, always felt like the gun was obstructing the view. By comparison, Fatebringer, Pali, Eyasluna and Austringer all feel fantastic because they aren't the size of Flintlock pistols. Highly recommend the Exp / Incan roll.
I got a dragonfly + firefly doom of chelchis and holy hell is it fun add volatile rounds on top of that and you have some MAJOR add clear. I'm not super big on scouts but damn it's a good gun.
Ditto any thoughts on dawnblade 3.0 now haunted is over? Personally I think build crafting is really limited as most builds don't even touch the subclass
I want zaoulis bane for that off brand sun shot with explosive and incandescent. If I’m correct sunshot doesn’t even apply scorch so that’s a bonus for zaouli
Defiance of Yasmin with an extended mag and a backup mag mod can reach 7 rounds, which means you can overflow it up to 11 with Runneth Over x5, which is most of your reserves, making it a good additional sustained DPS option alongside your heavy weapon. You can also use the seasonal mod that increases Runneth Over even more, pretty much fitting all of your reserve rounds into a sniper rifle
Ran the KF raid for the first time yesterday and got nothing but armor until the very end I got the handcannon with explosive payload and firefly. It feels really good so I gotta grind it out to get the pattern to get those enhanced perks
Defiance is looking to be one of the cleanest pvp weapons, luckily they didn't fully gut it from both, just feels incredibly smooth to shoot and hit shots with
As someone who got the game in 2015 and hasn’t played since 2017, should I get back into this game? I got d2 when it came out but I found i just found it too different than the game I had originally picked up. This isn’t to say different is bad. Some of the problems were that PVP had felt so watered down and drained and also so many once simple things like shaders were just made way too complicated for my liking. For anyone who’s played from 2017 to now, has this changed at all?
Explosive payload still sucks with firefly right? Like the fact that i cant proc firefly most of the time cause half the bullet is explosive damage and doesnt count as a precision kill. Does that still happen? Cause if so then im basically never using it inside of pve.
i got 6 weapon drops on 2 clears and 6 of them were scouts 2x dragonfly + firefly 1x exlosive payload + frenzy 1x one for all + stats for all 1x focused fury + rangefinder 1x dragonfly + vorpal at this point i dont know if im lucky or cursed
To be honest I’m just glad this raid’s weapons are good. That wasn’t… exactly the case back in D1. I mean I had a Smite of Merain with firefly so that was… neat. That said, the rest of em ranged from mediocre to bad. Friend of mine used to say he’d be able to pay his loans by the time he finished reloading Zaouli’s Bane….. and we were in med school at the time.
I used doom of chelchis for so long though! (Looking back I have no idea if it was actually good)
Zaouli’s bane took longer to reload than it took bungie to fix the TK content drought
@@thoriumbrother it wasn't
@@thoriumbrother That's alright. Some guns just feel good to use. I don't recall if the machine gun was good, but I know it *felt* good. Had a nice, chonky feedback to it.
Let's not forget about Anguish of Drystan, one of the worst autos to grace the game
The kf weapons feel so amazing its genuinely impressive. I don't even like most of these archetypes but they just feel so nice they're impossible to dislike
The reload animation on zaoulis bane is horrible. It finished the animation before the gun is actually reloaded so i keep cancelling the reload thinking its done when its not
the hand cannon definitely does not feel “amazing” it is being extremely hard carried by its perks
@@digiorno1142 it doesn't sound like austringer/fatebringer/eyas but it still feels nice imo
@@digiorno1142 idk man feels good to me
@@digiorno1142 Even then the only perks id want to run on it is EP + EotS for PvP, would never use it in PvE
I do like how the flesh parts of the gun stays the same on shaders so you could recreate the hallowed look from D1. Also I do hope bungie adds the missing raid weapons to vog and kf for more variety in drops cause I think there’s a few loot overlaps in kf
I'm torn between Tidesmoke, Cryptic Legacy and Rivalry Blacksand for the hallowed gun shaders. Any better ones?
The auto could’ve been so good but they passed it up 😭
@@ioncavegrandma9256 i really like shadow gilt, it just makes it dark black with some wear on it so it matches the whole vibe :]
@@ioncavegrandma9256 I’ve been using the “ritualism” shader on the scout, it looks pretty good. Not so good on the armour tho
I figured there would be some cuts, but man...I miss Dry Stan. Would have been a great auto in this game.
Glad to hear ensemble getting some love. It’s great on togetherness
with the power of friendship!
The interesting thing here is Firefly can take the place of a Reload perk on many of these guns since it's basically Outlaw+Dragonfly bundled together, which basically gives you the Reload+Damage combo with with extra explosions. (Especially on Doom of Chelchis.)
Ya I'd love to get Firefly+Frenzy. Once you get Frenzy going, that reload boost from Firefly would feel extra crisp.
@@jerryballsteinfrenzy already caps reload
Minor correction I suppose, on Smite of Merain Firefly can also bump your reload speed without needing to be near teammates, Stats for All isn’t the only option for reload
In endgame content you can proc stats for all everywhere without kills. You won't have a good time if you rely on Firefly kills for fast reloads.
In my opinion I don't really like how stats for all/one for all works in all guns, but in the case of smite of Merain I would probably use focused fury vorpal and it's a really solid pulse for gms
Doom of Chelchis with Adaptive / frenzy is gonna be awesome for GMs when unstoppable scout comes back around. Grabbing the firefly / dragonfly roll on it too just for fun with friends, but the real goal for me in crafting is the zaouli's bane with incandescent to straight up just be legendary sunshot.
Unrelenting on an lmg (especially in the 3rd column) is actually top tier, highly recommend it. Especially with firefly for ad clear and solar / warmind cell synergy on a stasis weapon. Also killing tally for more damage and healing at the same time.
I'm glad someone is talking about unrelenting. It's such an underrated perk.
@@kristopherhowe6314 yeah! It’s only the most used perk on the most crafted gun from last season.
Explosive Payload/One for All on the scout. Super easy dual damage perks. It's nice.
And Explosive Payload/Incandescent Zaouli's is a legendary Sunshot that scorches.
I have a bit of an issue with the Quillim's Terminus, and almost all Stasis weapons, for that matter.
I should preface that this is less of an issue for the Kinetic slot because that slot doesn't provide you with the option to use a Light element weapon anyways, so this is more about the heavy stasis weapons.
Assuming you are playing PvE, there is no reason to be using a stasis weapon unless you are running Headstone or Chill Clip on that weapon. Two major reasons:
-Very rarely do we see stasis singe, and when we do it's in something like strikes where it hardly even matters. So you're better off using a Solar/Arc/Void weapon to benefit from the active singe.
-There are no enemies with Stasis shields. You don't get to explode shields by matching the color and you also don't get to pop ANY shield in match game content (basically any endgame lol).
The entire reason you use a Stasis weapon is to benefit from those exclusive Stasis weapon perks. Nothing more, and (more importantly) nothing less.
Just felt I should say this because I see a lot of people get hyped about Firefly, Firing Line, etc. on this machine gun when really if you don't roll Headstone, you may as well use an older machine gun that has a light element with that same perk you're so excited about on the Quillim's.
With all that said, the King's Fall weapons are dope (including Quillim's with headstone for some activities) and I can't wait to craft my God rolls and maybe even craft a couple different rolls of some of the guns like the Smite of Merain.
Don't stasis weapons still get the bonus to red health damage?
@@reeidly Never heard of this.
@@reeidly No, they don't count as kinetic weapons, which get a 10% damage increase from what I've heard (Eyasluna doesnt work with DB which is a kinetic weapon buff)
I got a firefly dragon fly Chelchis and can confirm it's a whole lotta fun.
I hecking LOVE datto talking
Glad to finally get some opinions of godrolls, been seeing people everywhere say “use this” or “use that”, nice to have a professional opinion.
it's easier with these weapons since there's so many good rolls tbf
The arc fragment that reloads your weapon when sliding over ammo is total fire when using killing tally!
Been waiting for that video, thanks Datto ❤
Man talking about all these cool weapon combos made me think it'd be interesting to have a dragonfly - headstone roll on, basically any weapon, headshot kill spawns a crystal, dragonfly breaks it so you don't have to pump ammo into it for the extra explosion, could be a neat interaction
I have stats for all / killing tally quillims and i LOVE it ! I dont usually like the 360 rpm lmgs but it has truly won me over. Love the sound and sight too
Is that an app or website for the weapon perks portions where you can see the stats changing or is that good editing?
d2gunsmith is the website
Firefly buffs reload speed so Stats For All isn't the only solo reload perk on Smite of Merain
For the scout I'd recommend Explosive | OFA instead of Explosive | Frenzy, the splash damage from Explosive Payload helps proc OFA
the splash damage is tiny so no it doesn't really help
Small note on Qullim's is that Headstone Unrelenting works very well on stasis builds for ad clear
Nabbed a Backup Plan/Reservoir Burst Midha's and its my favorite special weapon I own
before reservoir burst came back nerfed and high impacts were nerfed this was a roll i could only dream of. i wonder how it is now
The PvP combo I’m going for with Midha’s is Backup Plan + Successful Warm up, would be great to chain quick charge kills together and Gyrfalcons pairs great with fusions :D
Zaouli's Bane is the only handcannon non-sunset that can roll surrounded.
Which is one of the worst perks in the game.
@@FonsoMaroni not true. Enhanced surrounded + spec is almost 50% damage bonus for being within 15m of 3 enemies. Very good depending on circumstances
@@logankistler8706 not good on a hand cannon tho
I am curious how would a quilems with firefly and headstone work? Would it blow up the crystal as it forms or will it just do the firefly damage and the crystal stays intact
It can't roll with both of those perks. They're in the same column.
@@notedStL I know it can’t but if it did what would happen like hypothetically speaking if it could roll both at once what would the interaction be?
@@pugwash1 try running a headstone primary with chromatic fire. Would give you an idea of how it might work
the explosion blows up the crystal from what i've heard
I have a Firefly/One For All Doom of Chelchis and it's my favourite primary weapon now, I'd HIGHLY recommend
Zaouli's is the ONLY weapon I haven't had drop for me over each of my runs. Hoping to snag one this week. Ideally, I'd like to craft each of the energy weapons from this raid
Yes 3 runs and I have yet to get the pulse.
Done on 2 characters every week, no pulse, no fusion
Same lol. 7 runs now
Yep, same boat. 5 clears no hand cannon.
the d1 to d2 glow up for zaouli's bane is truly the biggest surprise for me
In D1 Smite of Merain was the only pulse rifle that could roll with firefly right? For nostalgia purposes any Smite with firefly is a W for me
Correct. There may have been one in Rise of Iron but I didn't play that expansion so someone else will have to confirm
I love how these guns remind me of Skedar guns from Perfect Dark. If Bungo made more reload animations these could've had amazingly creative reloads.
I haven't heard many people mention the backup plan kickstart roll for Midha's Reckoning. Backup plan is really only worth it on high impacts. Every other archetype it results in an extra bolt to kill. Backup plan: 30% decrease in charge time and a 20% decrease in damage. Chambered compensator, AC, backup plan and kickstart with adept charge time and charge time MW should drop charge time to 488 ms and with a 15% damage buff could 3 burst up to 197. Base charge time: 960 ms - (AC, adept charge time, charge time MW 3 × 40 ms) = 840 ms × backup plan × 0.7 = 588 ms - kickstart 100 ms = 488 ms. Switch for back up plan for 4 seconds then have 1.5 sec to sprint before kickstart ready, then have 2.5 sec to slide and charge. Damage = 62 × 0.98 × 0.98 × 0.8 × 1.2 = 57.16 × 1.15 × 3 = 197. At least theoretically.
So glad to see Repulsor Brace on, well, not an SMG
Enhanced gutshot straight is supposed to have only slight target loss. Haven’t used it yet but it’s worth a shot
I have a doom of chelchis crafted with arrowhead brake, tact mag, enhanced explosive payload, and enhanced frenzy. I gotta say this thing shreds through ads and majors, absolutely love this scout
One for all with explosive or fire fly is alot better imo.
@@oksobasically3278One for all or Frenzy is good for gms and master raids. Firefly for lesser endgame content
So glad my opinion on King's Fall weapons arrived
Uhhhh, Yasmin with Runneth Over x5 goes to 9 bullets. Not 6. The seasonal mod takes it even higher.
I can confirm explosive frenzy fucks on doom of chelchis, however replacing frenzy with OFA is superior for endgame content. Only 2 weapons im interested in are doom and zoulis
this guy knows what’s up
I'm interested in the sniper for pvp
Loving my Explosive Payload + Incandescent Zaouli’s Bane. Like a legendary sunshot.
You know those guns from Destiny 1 that just hearing the name even after all these years gives you Crucible PTSD? Qullim's Terminus was one of them (for me, at least). When you see someone melt state supers and two-shot anything else with this thing, it leaves an impression, and a strong urge to run the hell away if an opposing player has ammo for it.
Missed the chance to put snipers on the map with tripletap fourth time the charm defiance of Yasmin. Honestly I don't think it would be broken but If it was too strong they could just replace the perk they've done it with felwinters twice now
it wouldn't have been good enough or better than a overflow + firing line thoughtless or a reconstruction + vorpal succession
@@dankerbell more fun tho
Explosive payload frenzy on Doom of Chelches, does in fact, slap.
Adaptive Munitions and Frenzy for Doom. That's going to be my new baby.
Damn would love to do the raid, have never played it even though i've been playing Destiny since 2014 xD
I'm glad the raid weapons brought some unique perk combo possibilities, adds some interesting flavor and experimentation. I've gotten a couple good Demo based Merains, a good Killing Tally Qullum's, and because I've gotten like 10 of them I already have a pretty good Explosive Frenzy Chelchins. Really looking forward to that Incandescent Zaouli’s I may have to craft if I can ever get a drop as solar Titan has been my main since Taken King.
I know this is subjective and not a big deal but I'm not a huge fan of the design changes though. I liked the holes along the top of Smite shooting out the little flames when you shot, and the fact that the flames were a little less visible until you started firing. The scrolling pink stuff also looks a little cheap and silly compared to the bound flesh and white bone look from the D1 versions. It's the same way I felt about Fatebringer, being able to shade it is awesome but as a result we lost that nice handcrafted edgewear in the textures.
i think unique perk combos are really the best way to go for raid weapon, like this they can feel definitely strong and unique, without needing insane stat packages that might make them feel more oppressive while also not ending up in mediocrity at best, like most Last Wish guns
For defiance, if you have a 5 mag and have the artifact mod on you can go to 10 in the mag.
I got a Smite with Ensemble/Firefly. Really fun.
I’m glad to have unique raid weapons back! Some of the other raids have just looked like slightly different human weapons, i.e GoS. The KF models look so much more unique.
yeah always hate that in destiny, for a game full of crazy looking aliens, most of our "Alien guns" are either out of human scrap (fallen) or just chunky metal guns (cabal) im always really happy to see more guns that really scream "crazy alien gun" to me
Just finished this raid and made good friends along the way, haven’t played since forsaken so like 3 years but God dam I missed this feel
Pugilist and Grave Robber should merge into one perk like Demolitionist.
Defiance of yasmin.. snap/opening for pvp is dope
My Smite of Merain came with Demo and firefly. I've been using it as my main primary ever since. Got it on my first run of the raid too 😁😬
I'm just surprised that Zaouli's Bane can finally finish a reload after all these years.
These weapons have so much going for them, it's actually a little ridiculous. My personal crafting set plan (Note: I tend to favor Handling as I like my weapons feeling quick on the draw.):
Smite of Merain: Arrowhead / Tac Mag / Demo / Firefly / Stability MW
Defiance of Yasmin (PvP): Fluted / Accurized / Snapshot / Opening Shot / Range MW (Thoughtless is just a better PvE sniper)
Midha's Reckoning: Fluted / Accelerated / Field Prep / Reservoir Burst / Handling MW
Zauoli's Bane: Fluted / Flared / EP / Incandescent / Reload MW (May consider crafting a EP / Firefly one too)
Doom of Chechis: Fluted / Tac Mag / Firefly / OFA / Reload MW (May make EP / Frenzy too)
Qullim's Terminus: Fluted / Tac Mag / Unrelenting / Firefly / Stability MW
If they ever buff sniper PvE DPS, Yasmin with Ensemble and Firing Line synergises great with Runneth Over.
Something to note with the hand canon: Incandescent burn seems to proc demolitionist so that's pretty broken
My first roll for Smite Of Merain was Demo/AJ. I love it
My opinion has formed! Thank you sir datto!
I got a Explosive payload Firefly on my Zaoulis bane the other day, shit slaps nice.
Explosive/one for all and explosive/incandescent is better, explosive/firefly just makes it the same as fatebringer
Phew i was about to form my own opinion of these weapons, thank god uncle Datto came to the rescue
It seems like Anguish of Drystan was so bad Bungie decided not to bring it back. It was the worst auto rifle in D1 coming from a raid.
They also didn’t bring back the rocket launcher. Forgot what it’s called
@@Obi482 it was Elulim’s Frenzy. I only remember it being mediocre compared to others like Hunger of Crota from Crota’s End.
@@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX yeah but it looked dope😂 idc if it’s ass lmfao
if you use the seasonal helmet mod that increases the effects of the origin perk for kings fall, it doubles its effect
that pulse rifle is kinda cool ngl
Anything that can roll payload/1FA is the ticket. With explosive damage, 1FA can proc on a single shot. So it's just like a constant almost 60% damage boost with almost 0 downtime
This is not correct. OFA is a 35% buff, and payload perks deal ~15% more damage to body, or precision damage can vary on enemy to enemy, but would be safe to say its still roughly around 15% for most enemies, unless they have significant crit multipliers. So, a ~50% damage buff to the body. To the head will vary depending on the enemy.
I would still prefer frenzy since it's a constant perk while I'm fighting + it buffs most aspects of the gun
@@Masoch1st it is correct. Explosive payload is roughly 22% additional damage
@@mickbreeden6516 its all over Count and Pip1n's spreadsheets bud, and I've verified it myself.
I've gotten two pugilist swash smite of merain rolls and I'm loving it so far. my melee uptime on arc hunter is insane
Remember when zaoulis bane was one of the worst guns in d1? Oh how the turntables have turned
It’s oh how the tables have turned 🤣
@@omensoffate lol
@@omensoffate r/whoosh
@@omensoffate newfren detected
Nabbed a Zaouli's Bane with the Pugilist + Demolitionist combo. I'm a sucker for guns that give back ability energy, so I'm keeping it.
Kind of surprised to see Repulsor Brace on Doom of Chelchis get glossed over.
Chechlis with Firefly+One For All is my pick, basically a single kill damages opponents nearby and procs OFA - great synergy that we already had on Insidious. I really like Firefly because it also boosts the reload speed.
"People aren't excited about new perks because there aren't any new perks"
"Pugilist is a new perk"
fairly sure he meant there aren't new raid perks, like Vow had "Bait and Switch"
@@YuriG03042 yep this is what he meant, that's what raids since dsc have had to make them more desirable
Babe wake up new datto vid dropped
Probably the only raid where every weapon is worth getting, can’t wait to craft the hc and scout the most!
It's not lol. Machine guns are garbabe and so are slow shooting fusions
@@mickbreeden6516 machine guns are pretty good this season after their buffs, plus a headstone lmg would be good mob clear
@@st1k3r63 they're not that good, and we already have a better craftable headstone MG
@@milzhere good luck getting precision kills with a rapid fire hmg
@@Aj-py8en I'll deal with having to aim to benefit from field prep/subsistence.
I got the Pugilist/ Demo roll and it is AMAZING on my Hunter Tripmine build.
I was lucky. Only got one handcannon and it rolled with explosive shot and one for all. I never knew about the second perk until someone on the raid team told me. I'd prefer incandescent but free damage boost is nice
for me in mid game content, payload incandescent with a good solar build is super fun
@@masonwillms2542 sounds like it. If I get it I'm throwing it on my solar hunter. Right now his proximity knife causes the scorch explosion. Then the enemies that die to that blow up again in another scorch explosion. I'm hoping incandescent will do the same in case I miss my knife
I have some good rolls on Smite of Merain, Zhaouli's Bane, Doom of Chelchis and for PvP in Midha's. I have Firefly-Focused Fury for Merain, First Shot-Focused Fury for Zhaouli's, Explosive Payload-Focused Fury for Chelchis and Auxiliar Plan-Vorpal Weapon in Midha's
I tend to prefer handling and stability as my minor perks. Managed to pull a stats/one for all Smite of Merain as well as a frenzy/steady hands Doom of Chelchis. Both random drops I'm very pleased with, although I may look to replace steady hands one of these days. I don't favor focused fury on primaries because I can't aim, though.
Been hoping you would do a god roll vid for kings fall!!! Any chance you might do Duality dungeon god rolls?
with midhas reckoning, if you use golden tricorn x2 you can deal 100 dmg per bolt and kill even at falloff range.
I got the Explosive / Incandescent Zaouli's and it's fun to fire in PVE, but I would not recommend it in PVP. Feels like the animation doesn't reset the gun's long frame fast enough to make firing it (even pacing shots) feel good, always felt like the gun was obstructing the view. By comparison, Fatebringer, Pali, Eyasluna and Austringer all feel fantastic because they aren't the size of Flintlock pistols.
Highly recommend the Exp / Incan roll.
I got a dragonfly + firefly doom of chelchis and holy hell is it fun add volatile rounds on top of that and you have some MAJOR add clear. I'm not super big on scouts but damn it's a good gun.
I'm loving my unrelenting/headstone machine gun drop. I believe shattering the stasis crystals counts towards unrelenting.
Ditto any thoughts on dawnblade 3.0 now haunted is over? Personally I think build crafting is really limited as most builds don't even touch the subclass
I want zaoulis bane for that off brand sun shot with explosive and incandescent. If I’m correct sunshot doesn’t even apply scorch so that’s a bonus for zaouli
Defiance of Yasmin with an extended mag and a backup mag mod can reach 7 rounds, which means you can overflow it up to 11 with Runneth Over x5, which is most of your reserves, making it a good additional sustained DPS option alongside your heavy weapon. You can also use the seasonal mod that increases Runneth Over even more, pretty much fitting all of your reserve rounds into a sniper rifle
Ran the KF raid for the first time yesterday and got nothing but armor until the very end I got the handcannon with explosive payload and firefly. It feels really good so I gotta grind it out to get the pattern to get those enhanced perks
Please note that if you are on controller stability and reload are what you should go for. Makes many guns a bit more comfy.
If you use Echo of Domineering on Void 3.0, you can reload your weapon and still keep up Killing Tally
If you're a controller pleb like me, stability over range but not via sacrificing it (no steady rounds)
Defiance is looking to be one of the cleanest pvp weapons, luckily they didn't fully gut it from both, just feels incredibly smooth to shoot and hit shots with
As someone who got the game in 2015 and hasn’t played since 2017, should I get back into this game? I got d2 when it came out but I found i just found it too different than the game I had originally picked up. This isn’t to say different is bad. Some of the problems were that PVP had felt so watered down and drained and also so many once simple things like shaders were just made way too complicated for my liking. For anyone who’s played from 2017 to now, has this changed at all?
are you planning to do a 2022 exotic tier list? ik the 3.0s kinda threw everything outta the loop.
Whats the website you are using to look at all the perks and stats?
Pugilist and Demolitionist on Zaoulis Bane is awesome. Nearly 100% uptime on abilities. I got it on my first clear
I got ensemble killing tally first drop Day 1 and it was a life saver on totem it was doing tons of damage with thralls there to stack it.
Explosive payload still sucks with firefly right? Like the fact that i cant proc firefly most of the time cause half the bullet is explosive damage and doesnt count as a precision kill. Does that still happen? Cause if so then im basically never using it inside of pve.
Glowup of the century goes to this handcannon
Is ensemble worth it on the sniper if you are already using Luna boots?
i got 6 weapon drops on 2 clears and 6 of them were scouts
2x dragonfly + firefly
1x exlosive payload + frenzy
1x one for all + stats for all
1x focused fury + rangefinder
1x dragonfly + vorpal
at this point i dont know if im lucky or cursed
With the seasonal mod, I got 12 shots in my sniper at x5.
what is the app he used to show all the perks
Movin target and eye of the storm on smite of Merain is my personal god roll