Wonder Woman (2017) - Movies with Mikey
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
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"Who would sing for us?" is such a perfect encapsulation of her character in one single line.
If you're not already in love with Diana by then, that seals the deal.
It's the one line that made me fall in love with this film instead just finding it really good. It's so human, so sweet, so sincere.
That and discussion with Steve at the end about nature of humanity were such amazing pieces of writing... Better than what was in 90% of comic book movies ever made.
This. In how many other superhero blockbuster does the hero bother to take emotional care of side characters?
he has ptsd though i would have let him go home but she is a good person
YES! GIVE!! THE DCEU!! TO PATTY JENKINS!!
Her film before WW won an Oscar and she spent 14 YEARS TRYING TO GET ANOTHER FILM MADE! And when she did it was a WHIRLWIND SUCCESS! GIVE THIS WOMAN MORE PRODUCTIONS.
no
Well... Don't give it to a single director. Ever.
@@serenityq26 yes.
Holy shit she would OWN that.
She wouldn't let the studio fuckery hurt her.
Give it to Patty, STARTING WITH whatever comes AFTER flashpoint.
Give her a NEARLY CLEAN SLATE and let her fucking go.
I love that the actresses who portrayed the other Amazonians decided to match their accents to Gal Gadot to make things easy for her AND to give them a different sound.
The thing I like most about your exploration of movies, I won’t even say criticism because that seems inaccurate, is that you have a knack for finding and articulating the emotional core of a film. It’s one thing to pick apart the structure of a movie, but if you only look at movies as cinematic LEGO sets, you miss so much of what makes movies great. Not everyone can approach movies on the more emotional wavelength, and I think that’s where you get a lot of the complainers from. People who loathe Interstellar and think Wonder Woman is mediocre (and, sigh, yes the people who hate The Force Awakens and now The Last Jedi, though I’m as sick of the discourse there as everyone else) very much seem to fall in this category, but you do a great job of explaining why these movies are great in a way that I think many people who don’t initially get it can understand. Wonder Woman is about love and empathy even in the face of incalculable violence and horror.
One recent-ish comic, one of the later issues of Blackest Night I think, almost accidentally hit upon the perfect explanation of Wonder Woman. She is, at her core, the person who loves the most. Not loves anyone, but loves EVERYONE. Her love is so powerful, so forgiving, so deep, that not even the people literally empowered by the cosmic embodiment of the concept of love itself are quite on her level. That is what this movie absolutely nailed. The frame, the resolution, Ares, all these things can afford to be messy because that emotional core of the character was portrayed to utter perfection.
Andrew Galan +
Yeah, I have a friend who utterly dismisses emotional and thematic revelence and props up structure as the end all, beat all of good storytelling. Granted, structure is important-but he flat out dismisses evaluating film from an emotional perspective.
"What a film makes you FEEL doesn't matter." Is something he said. Actually said. It floored me somebody who writes for a living can have such a cold, totalitarian view on film.
@@nope5657 That is someone who is afraid of his own feelings. If he has feelings he doesn't want to feel, it will drastically limit his ability to write anything.
I was very disappointed with The Force Awakens, still am, but I love Mikeys videos. Hey, you've seen this, but have you considered this angle? With no browbeating or high-horsing. Just simple love for an art and an explanation of a point of view. I mostly agree with his vids, but I always appreciate them.
Hit the nail on the head. His video on Howls moving castle made me sit back and reevaluate some things which I certainly was not expecting from a film critic.
"Being a super hero doesn't mean hitting people all the time. (BAT!!! MAN!!!)" XD
"Being a superhero doesn't mean hitting people all the time-- *bat 👏 M A N 👏* "
Mikey, I can't imagine how hard this year was for you, but you don't need to give inspiring words, you are inspiring. Going through all the stuff you did this year and still not only giving out so much joy in your love for these movies but also making what I think are some of your best episodes yet, Mononoke, Moon, Logan, Hot Fuzz, Guardians, The Batman one last time and this one, plus some I'm sure I'm forgetting. Not to mention how much I love what you guys are doing with Deep Dive. I'm rambling at this point so I'll just say you are awesome, man and I hope your 2018 is everything you want and more because you deserve it :)
askewman37 what happened I'm new to th channel ??????
Potato Talks Long story with medical issues. Watch the "I'm still here" video and you'll see
askewman37 dang that sucks
Give Patty Jenkins not only Justice League, but the whole damn universe. She could do for DC what Kevin Feige did for Marvel.
I like his idea of giving her JL, but the WW ending made me cringe like JL and BVS did so I'm not so sure doing a hero universe is really her forte.
Well, The end was WB doing, and you can remove WB from the universe, let´s hope WB allow their directors to end their films the way they want.
If the director had had her way, there would not have been a cg fight between Ares and Diana. It would have just been either Diana coming to the realization that humanity is ultimately good herself or Ares confronting her non-physically about it.
You can't sell toys without it
Or fully give Snyder the chance to fully finish his vision
Stop trying to make "fetch" happen, Gretchen.
15:00 - "It's narratively expendable, but thematically irreplaceable." That sums it up perfectly. "Isn't it the best scene in the movie?" And it is, for the exact reasons mentioned.
That is when Diana, Princess of Thermistorscaliascurrilousarea *BECOMES* _Wonder Woman_ - full stop.
The "climbing the ladder out of the trench" is *THE. BEST.* "reveal of a superhero in iconic outfit" in the history of cinema. No other superhero movie earns its superhero showing up in their outfit more than Wonder Woman does. And it is specifically _because_ what she is doing, she is doing in _opposition_ to her end goal. It is when she goes from being "single purpose robot trying to kill Ares" to "caring human trying to save other humans."
The closest any other movie gets to this moment is Star Wars The Force Awakens - the moment Kylo Ren tries to force pull the lightsaber from the snowbank, and instead it goes to Rey. When Rey catches the lightsaber, then assumes a fighting stance and lights it - she becomes the hero.
The tone of Justice league can only be explained as an unfinished Rubex cube.
I misread that as “the roblox oof sound” also I have dyslexia if you are wondering how badly I misread it
"because her best friend was a really good person" this part made me tear up, Wonder Woman came and went but it still is soo good and such an acomplishment for the whole crew and Patty in particular
Mikey: "Describe Justice League's tone in one word."
Me: "Insane"
Mikey: *off-screen* "Wait, can he do that?"
Cunning ham is best ham
Much obliged
I'm one of those ppl who looked up to her parents. My mom was my hero growing up so I never really had to look for a female role model bc I had one right there every day. That said, I cried watching this movie, multiple times. When Diana stepped out into No Man's Land, when she singlehandedly fought the soldiers, real tears fell. I wished I had a daughter to watch the movie with bc I was overwhelmed by emotion seeing a female superhero who wasn't a sidekick or secondary character but the lead carrying her own movie. I am one of those ppl who LOVED this movie. Like you said, it had a billion things in it & I loved that nuance. Thank you for this video. It makes me so happy watching your videos, your positivity & honesty. Super glad I found you & subscribed. 😊
Finally someone else appreciates Chris Pine's performance in Smoking Aces.
Thank goodness, I needed the catharsis of a new video from you around this time of year.
yess
What are you removing?
I'm not saying this applies to this movie because I actually enjoyed wonder woman when I saw it but I think Mikey is one of the only people in existence who can actually polish a poo for lack of a better metaphor because honestly I think he could write up a script that could genuinely make me like virtually anything which is actually great because when he talks about a movie he enhances it's quality and makes it more enjoyable and the better the film the more he adds to it so he can consistently allow us to relive all the best moments of a piece of art and accent all the wonderful parts we missed. tldr thank you mikey your awsome!
And we head back to the humanist viewpoint. That is why I keep coming back for more Movies with Mikey. Thanks for that.
I don't know why anyone is surprised by the anti-vaxxers. We've been told in both movies and discovered in reality that big business and big gov't cannot be trusted. We're hammered with the message that people, as you said repeatedly until close to the end, people are bad. BUT. We also discover in reality that people are good. Just look at former President Jimmy Carter. Wonder Woman reminded us of that.
If the movies can start saying people are good, or at least can be good, maybe we can discover it in real life as well.
Retired librarian
I don't know why anyone is surprised by the anti-vaxxers. We've been told in both movies and discovered in reality that big business and big gov't cannot be trusted. We're hammered with the message that people, as you said repeatedly until close to the end, people are bad. BUT. We also discover in reality that people are good. Just look at former President Jimmy Carter. Wonder Woman reminded us of that.
If the movies can start saying people are good, or at least can be good, maybe we can discover it in real life as well.
Retired librarian
Jesus, when you think about it, 21 Is A LOT. Damn Marvel. Should not have taken you that long
In their defense, they did have Jessica Jones and Agent Carter before Captain Marvel. They aren't movies though so I guess they wouldn't count.
Yeah, but you can't really dismiss the fact that it took SOCIETY more than 10 years to acclimate to the idea of a female lead superhero movie. Marvel just started making the awesome movies way before DC. If DC had had their movies start 10 years ago, Wonder Woman wouldn't have been 4th. You can't ignore the fact that it took THE WORLD, the STUDIOS and everyone else to get on board with what's normal and right and stop being so sexist just to appease the "fanbois" who have very sensitive and fragile feelings.
Also, like Cody said, there's Jessica Jones and Agent Carter. So there.
It is true, but Marvel did at least give the female characters very significant roles in pretty much every movie. Peggy Carter (in Captain America and her own ABC Show), Hope Pym, Gamora, Nebula, Black Widow, Pepper, Valkyrie, Nakia, Shuri, Okoye, Hela, the Ancient One, Sky/Daisy/Quake, May and Simmons on SHIELD, etc are all fully realized characters and hold their own with the boys so to speak. I'm not sure I like any of them more than Wonder Woman, but I certainly like every one of them very much. It appears that a lot of Marvels upcoming phases will introduce more major female characters even if they don't get top billing. Captain Marvel will likely become the leader of the Avengers and Tony's daughter may well be the next Iron Man.
6:08 Mikey & and my fellow subscribers:
When I saw this movie I was like "Eh, pretty good!"
It took Mikey and Lee of CinemaWins for me to begin to understand that this is a gorgeously brave movie and a huge accomplishment.
The fact that I did not see that, though I am inclined to be extremely enthusiastic about artistic achievement, says a lot about the inveterate negativity in our popular culture, which thanks to Mikey and Lee and others (The Birdman♡) I am beginning to unshackle myself from, so happily and gratefully.
A lot of comments are missing the point and it's kind of depressing me. First of all, just because Ralph Sepe said something doesn't make it gospel. Heck, he didn't like the no man's land scene so I don't know how trustworthy his opinion is.
But second, and most importantly, mike started this video (which isn't a review by the way) by pointing out how useless it is to say things like "the movie is imperfect" or "the movie has problems" when you're doing this kind of analysis. Yeah, he can go down a list of pros and cons about it, but that isn't the point. Movies can and do have glaring flaws, but they can still make you feel something good inside, and that's worth exploring.
This isn't like transformers, where millions of people pay tons of money and basically all react with "yeah the effects were cool." this is a movie that affected people, that people didn't just like, they LOVED. It made a lot of people feel something a movie never made them feel before, and you're not interested in finding out WHY? you're just gonna say "but Ralph Sepe said it had bad villains and cheesy acting, so it's a worthless movie?" what's wrong with you all?
Pedro Garcia But Ralph was right about the horrible climax which undercutted the movie themes with beating up a cgi monster
Adrian Dezendegui yeah but a movie is more than its climax, and that scene existing doesn't make the rest of the movie not worth diving deeper into.
To me the climax felt like a warning not to watch the other DC movies. :P
How can he be right if he didn't even understand what the climax was about?
Huh?Other DC movies, like this one are widely regarded as the best ones ever made in the genre.
When I saw the trailer for this movie I said "please please please don't suck" and that was my mantra over and over, even as the opening sequence was rolling...
I'm so thankful for this movie, especially now in a world where "superhero" means "grim serious violence" in a world saturated by grim violence and politicians who's only message is more violence. It meant so much to see a hero fight to save, and to truly deeply mourn the loss.
The ending, as so many comments before me, didn't entirely live up to the journey that brought us there... but that's true of so many more movies, in a way how could it have been.
We as a culture need more wonder woman, whether it be the literal wonder woman or not, we need more truth and love and compassion dressed in gold and held up as a hero.
I really liked Wonder Woman. Now I like it even more. I think this might be my favorite MWM episode. #PattyJenkinsForJusticeLeague
Patty Jenkins can't direct action scenes as was shown in this movie. If she would direct a JL sequel she'd either need to get better at directing action or move away from large cgi action figure smashing. (I'd honestly prefer moving away from the huge mega fights)
Even though Robert Downey jr.'s Iron Man is my absolute favorite Superhero (movie). Gal Gadot is probably the only one I would love to have as a friend ..
Steve rogers is my favorite.. because his superpower is always knowing the right thing and doing it.. but Gal Gadot's wonder woman will easily tie him if the idiot studios allow GOOD directors to continue her story (they probably wont theyre likely thinking "But how do we make a MAN the hero!!"
you made me cry about wonder woman! which, honestly, isn't very difficult. but thank you. this is a brilliant analysis, and it perfectly encapsulates why Wonder Woman is probably my favourite superhero movie of all time. Kudos to you, Mikey!
I like the use of Heathens by 21 pilots as background in this video since it was also used in Suicide Squad
These episodes are some of my favorite things on RUclips. You have, over time, changed the way I watch movies. I seek out the level of understanding that you seem to have. I research and re-watch more than I ever did before and I get so much more out of them. Thank you so much for making these.
Oh, what a joyful way to kick off a winter break.
Does “Blackadder goes forth” count as a ww1 movie even though it’s a tv show?
Yes. Simply because its Blackadder.
I am very torn about wonder woman, mostly because I hate the reason why I loved it. It felt like the first genuine super hero movie I have seen since captain america that used what I like to call the paragon Archetype. On a matter of principles, I feel like that shouldn't be the best part of the movie for me, especially when the movie itself was no slouch. Is is so bad to want my heroes to be heroes?
I mean, it's great she isn't perfect. Young, naive, reckless, but she is honestly trying to help people for a reason aside from guilt. Couple that goodness with her lust for life (icecream) and you have the characteristics that are truly inspirational to me.
_This_ is what I come here for, this rush of hope and this feeling that everything will be okay. Happy freakin' holiday(s), bro. Thanks for everything you do.
Thank you for a great year of commentary and insight Mikey. Having now gone through the whole back catalogue now I can say I have a better appreciation of those movies and cinema in general. Most importantly you have been inspiring with how you have dealt with such adversity and have been able to give such insight into the human condition and the best thing we have to offer. Your last few episodes have been particularly impactful. I look forward to see what you create next year.
Just discovered your videos a few days ago, and have been binging them like crazy. I love the thoughtful, deep, intricate discussions you have with yourself about what these films are and why we love them and need them. I'm currently working on scripts, and your work definitely makes me think a lot harder about what I want my films to say. Thank you!
Mikey, I cried as you showed the scene with Charlie and Diana. It hit me hard and, while I don't usually comment on RUclips videos due to the general uselessness of that act, I felt compelled to let you know this. I love your videos and they make me have a deeper love of movies that I already liked a lot. You truly are one of the most underrated channels and I wish you all the best that the world could possibly give you.
Thank you. This is the third time I watched this video, and I cried each time. Being a hero isn't about punching people, it's about lifting them up
You stated very well why I love stories like Wonder Woman and Harry Potter
Also I love that Steve wasn't merely a love interest. He was heroic in his own right. Steve wasn't weak, it's just Diana was a literal Goddess. And they both earned our respect
Agreed. Well done. You put a lot of heart into this and its sooooo appreciated.
Okay, I want to jump on the train about "who would sing for us." She, who comes from a militaristic society, which glorifies basically only the warrior (so far as I saw), and when she meets a man who has seen too much war, she honours him for something other than fighting. She honours him for song, and for companionship, and for connection. I a can't imagine how hard it is to respect someone for something your society seems not to care about. Everyone in power in her society, everyone who is looked up to, wears armour and is built like a battleship, and yet she care so much and respects and honours this man so much. This skiny man, who kills people without honour at the distance of a gun, who is shell-shocked and cannot still fight most of the time, and she sees him and validates and affirms him.
I'm actually crying
I love that you put all your attention to what the film IS and not what it SHOULD BE. Too many people reviewing or analyzing movies put a lot of their attention to what a film should be and it just makes discussions go in circles as everyone tries to convince each other who has the better idea. But you sir are helping us understand what the creators behind the films were trying to say.
I watched your Get Off the Floor video today. Everybody is a dick in their 20s. Especially in the position you were in. But it's crystal clear that while you did experience PTSD, you have turned it into post-traumatic growth. You are doing what you can to bring people joy, and you're doing an amazing job. You should be proud of yourself.
And I think I speak for a lot of us when I say thank you, and we love you Mikey.
5:00 music is Julia Michaels - Issues (Instrumental) for anyone wondering.
no, this is definately a cover of Heathens from Twenty One Pilots
There’s a self-awareness in WW where the comedic beats work to disrupt what would otherwise come across as the campy melodrama with explosions that characterizes the other DC movies.
Thor Ragnarok kinda embodies this - alternating serious and silly (mostly fish out of water) beats.
The trench scene where she says “screw it I’m going” as a fish out of water when everyone else has given up because it unites FooW Diana with Serious Diana.
I totally see the execs fighting it, because it’s not a scene the other DC movies have. It’s about character and tone and character and maybe even a moral to the story (heroism happens by choice), things that are sorely missing in the other DC movies that are mostly plot and explosions.
Yes!
Wonder Woman is the Superman we never got. She should have been the leader of the Justice League, because who needs Superman when she's there? He should have stayed dead, at least for one movie.
Shir Deutch Superman’s more powerful
Shir Deutch - it’s funny to me that when I read your comment, I immediately thought of the line Batman said to Diana in the JL movie. When he was basically asking her why she wasn’t more of an icon to the world like Superman was. Lol.
But I definitely agree with you. In terms of understanding the source material and the idea of Wonder Woman in general compared, this Wonder Woman movie is the Superman we should have had. And I say that even though I like Man of Steel and Superman is my favorite comic book character of all time.
Actually, speaking of Superman, you got it backwards....there should've been 2 more films before he died in the first place....DC tried to do the stories of 5 comic threads in 3 films and didn't give any of the stories room to breathe and develop naturally.
I just discovered your channel recently and I'm loving it, but HOLY CRAP this video was moving. I just got done watching it on my lunch break and got a little choked up. Holy shit. Major, MAJOR props to you for making this.
This is by far the most underrated channel on youtube, I'm blown away consistently by how much higher the quality of each video is than its reflection in views and subscribers.
4:14
thank you for the awesome Heathens cover
Ty Mikey this year is ending on a low note for me in a already difficult time in my life your videos on the good that movies bring really speak to me and help me keep moving.
I know all you do is review movies, but the way you analyze and reveal things about them manages to lift my spirits a little bit.
That rainbow "you don't own me" and the "bat...MAN-" LOL SO MUCH SHADE DAMN B
I just died laughing when you played Bohemian Rhapsody "Is this the real-life?" line.
i remember walking out of the theater and telling my friends ""wonder woman is the third best character in this film, the first is Petty Jenkins, and the second is the old couple behind us they ware adorable"
i want to see a documentary about her struggle to make this film, because a lot of the problems of the film felt like things personal to Petty, from the action directing which was pretty bad IMO( but that's most likely thanks to Zach Snyder i'm not sure how but it just felt like it) to the fights she had to go through against the producers on what she can do in a super hero film.
the more i think of it the more it feels like a great idea.
please pull some strings Mikey, this could be amazing.
No lie, that bit about PTSD and her compassion after learning about everyone’s personal struggles got the waterworks going a little.
Aaand cue the piano music 🎼 @ 19:50 ...
Thank you for this video. I love, LOVE this movie so much that I cried twice during your video. Once at the line "who would sing for us", and again at the "a billion things" screen because it showed part of the No Man's Land sequence. I cried in the theater at No Man's Land. So did my wife. When the sequence was over, she asked me, "Why am I crying?" I fumbled to some answer about "the beauty of honor and compassion." I guess I hit close the mark. Anyway, kudos to Patty Jenkins for fighting for that scene, and to her, Gal Gadot, and the whole crew for realizing this vision. It is what we need now.
I love Wonder Woman, but I did think the ending was a little bloated. I wish super hero movies could be as grounded as the characters they're based on.
A little confused as to what you mean by "as grounded as the characters they're based on."
Reading Wonder Woman never feels like the end of a superhero movie. The over reliance on cgi to make things seem huge and grandiose broke my immersion. I loved the look and tone of the no man's land scene so much because it felt real. The DC universe feels like a heightened version of reality in the comics, and it doesn't usually have the visuals of a dragon ball z fight (being a bit hyperbolic here) when powerful characters confront each other. I didn't hate it, I just wish that it felt as real as the rest of the film.
I gotta say, I would hardly call her GROUNDED (I mean, she flies around punching magical sorceresses with explosions in the background as a regular thing).
I think my biggest problems lied in the story having to conclude with a big flashy showdown with a villain. As villains of its sort go it was a fairly decent one.
They are. Just not DC films.
Honestly the best “grounded” ending we’ve seen recently is Civil War. Right?
I literally didn't want this video essay to end. And again *tears*
I want to like this movie so much. Every time I watch it I focus on all the good in it, but I still get frustrated by it. It had such an incredible twist and message at the end, but it just threw it out the window for a big cgi fight
Just want to mention how much I love the glam opening of these videos, glam is not really my thing but when something scratches my (admittedly very narrow and particular) glam itch it feels so damn good
I love every single time you get *personal*. Yes, all the wild swings. What you are teaching me, is how to discuss stories and films in full depth, from the micro level to the macro one, including reflections on the bigger meaning of things, without ever even remotely sounding like the boring, snobbish type of critic.
Wow, every shot of Patty Jenkins directing that you included in the first section was so dynamic and fantastic, she's incredible!
I'm quite new to your channel but the fetchness Bit at the start cracked me up
Mikey, you've been spot on with where my heart falls with the world of movies. I can honestly say that Wonder Woman is easily in the top 3 of my favorite superhero movies of all time, and I appreciate your thorough breakdown of what made it ring for you. I'm excited to hear your thoughts on the new Star Wars, but in due time. Till then: Merry Christmas friend!
Not saying you shouldn't like it but what did you like about it? (FYI I strongly dislike the movie)
AttilaTheBuns alright fair game! So aside from the breath of fresh air compared to the rest of the recent musky DC cinematic movies, Wonder Woman is incredible as a stand-alone film outside of comparison. I was absolutely smitten with Gal's performance concerning the naivety she brings to the table, as I felt that shined a light on the way our world has become so grim and nasty. She stood out like a sore thumb, which despite all the pressures that Mikey highlights in his explanation, she stood strong by her own beliefs and nature. Sure, she stumbled, but that's not a point of concern but rather highlighting that's she's learning and growing in all this new exposure.
That was honestly my main influence in enjoying this film, and I loved Mikey's point that articulated in detail how much of Diana's character showed compassion. It was like the cherry on top of an already perfect sundae.
I hope that helps!
Jonathan Hakes jup, there is nothing to add from me 😁
Especially the casting of Gal Gadot has been a great Idea. Of course, every "wow-this-women-is way-out-league" would do the job in terms of appearance and maybe even talent as actor, but she has this kind of aura I only can sympathize with😅
Her Character and her charimsa changes through the film🤓
I've been holding out on watching this because it took me a while to see the movie and then I did and... well I found it lacking. That being said, I appreciate this video a lot Mikey, I appreciate your perspective regardless of my own feelings on the movie and your optimism about film in general keeps me coming back. As always, thank you for Movies with Mikey.
LOL "I will grant you that Mulligan" Thank you for helping me understand why I loved this movie so much!
Wanted to let you know that your content helped pull me out of a dark place this weekend. Know that your work is appreciated and that I hope you keep it up. 🙂
This is my second comment on your channel since I was referred to it by CinemaWins, but would like to offer my two bits on Wonder Woman.
Your assessment of 'Doing good things for the sake of just doing good things' is the biggest reason I love this movie. It truly is the heart of it. I'm an old retired guy that found this movie inspirational for more reasons than I can list. First and foremost, the character of Diana just exemplifying empathy, understanding, and love to humankind is a standard that should be held up even though maintaining that, regardless of the negativity surrounding us today, that should be strived for. While the first statement is the heart of the movie, that is its soul.
Mikey, your vids just keep gettin better and better. props to you my dude.
Merry Christmas Mikey and have a great New Year!
While I agree Marvel should have had a Women led superhero movie earlier than 21st, DC would never have the option. Wonder woman is in the top 3 all time superheros ever. (1 and 2 are considered batman and superman) You really should ask why after all the success DC had with both Superman and Batman that it took this long. In the time since Reeves donned the cape nearly 40 years ago, we have had 3 different live action movie superman actors, 5 batmen ( in now 3 series), and only now the first wonder woman. She was a big enough entity, but it took everything DC and Marvel had done to get it made.
And While Marvel has had the success in movies over the last 10 years, not one of their female heroes is close to the popularity or recognition that Wonder Woman is.
Yeah it felt disingenuous of him to take that jab at Marvel.
Top 3 DC superheroes. If you throw Marvel in the mix, supposedly, Spider-Man is the most popular superhero in the world, using both recognizability and total merchandising as metrics.
I think at that point it will turn into a current versus 15/20 years ago time frame. And then looking at who you are talking to. before the Saturday morning cartoon show I could never tell you who Spiderman was, but i knew wonder woman, Superman, and Batman. It might be safe to say that before The first spiderman live action movie, spiderman would be in a clear 4th among general audiences, but mush hgher within comic book audiences. and I can't believe that it has been 15+ years since then.
You forgot Linda Carter's series, yeah it took years to get a WW movie. The cultural landscape is more open to the fact a good female led movie can be made maybe. The awful attempts at Catwoman and Elektra didn't help I'm sure
Nels Paulson Amongst comics you are correct. But amongst the movies - I would have preferred a Black Widow movie over iron Man 2 or Thor 2 or Avengers 2 at those dates. Good actress, interesting underused character. Instead we got a 3rd Spiderman. He's ok but please let's have Black Widow before Spidey3 2.
I am sitting here at 28 seconds after 10 minutes, and 10:08 has me in tears with the memory of Diana going "over the top." When we saw it in the theater, my wife looked at me and asked, "Why am I crying?" I could only say throug my tears "Because it was so beautiful." Add to that tragic and honorable.
And "who would sing for us" is possibly the most apt and beautiful dialogue ever written.
that star wars comparison was soooo on point and i never realized how impressive the feat was until it
My wife and I saw this in theaters. When the No Man's Land sequence was over, my wife looked at me and said, "Why an I can crying?" I could only answer, "Because it's so beautiful." But honestly, I've come to realize there is truth in such heroism.
Patty jankins should direct every DC movie from now on
I love your work, Mikey! You have given me so much joy with your reviews. MUCH appreciated. In fact, I dedicated my latest book to you (and many many others but you made the cut!)
One of the best parts of Wonder Woman as an origin movie is that the focus isnt on her costume, or name or powers, but her ideology.
I have been binge-watching your videos for 2 days now, and deeply moved by each of them. You seem to get the emotional core of the movies, which is what attracts me to movies. I just came to a point where I learned about your condition and it makes me respect you even more, how you believe in humanity when the world seems so messed up (this video represents it best). I myself have an auto-immune condition (SLE) and damn, it is hard. But I hold on because of people like you. Keep on sharing, I hope you can spend much more percentage of your life being well (a realistic wish for auto immune brother-/sisterhood). And btw, your video-editing and visuals are out of this world. Love, a new fan.
GOD DAMMIT. This makes me cry every time. I can't put it to words, I'm not as capable as some of the others here that have said such wonderful and relevant things. I can say this; watching a video essay like this makes me feel a little less crazy. It makes me understand that the insights that I gleam from the films I watch are, without a doubt, subject to my feelings at the time. Yet, what I take away from relating to a film isn't any less valid because my perspective is specific to the feelings I'm having at the time or the emotions that the film dredges up in response.
I don't know if I've made myself particularly clear but, I just needed to say something regardless.
Thank you, Mikey.
Today was a tough day for me health-wise but then Mikey posted this and the day got better. Thanks Mikey.
"Joyeux Noel" was also a decent WW1 movie, even Christmas themed. Trailer: ruclips.net/video/KRrr-CDXijs/видео.html
This movie was a surprise, in the best "honey I know I didn't call to ask but I decided to cook tacos for dinner tonight I hope you like them" kind of way. I watched it to support the movie and support a female-led film regardless of any expectations I had and was blown completely out of the water by it. Thank you for making this video and putting into words why her definition of "super hero" is so important and so good and so needed right now
I love how you stand up for being kind and being human. And I absolutely love how you stand against sexism. It felt great to see Darkwing Duck in the babydriver video and it felt great to hear you call out Marvel. Thank you, it takes men to speak up for us all to be equal. Amazing videos and I watch them with joy :)
Here because of Patty Jenkins' tweet, great video Mikey!
"Clusterverse" is officially the Word of 2017. You got it in juuuuuuust before the buzzer, but the judges will allow it. Well done.
It's a proper fun flic, I'm entirely with you on this.
Also, I did like the Batman depicted, because it's the broken, disillusionsed, Frank Miller Dark Knight - who's brutal and merciless, until he is shown a path of redemption.
Not a comment about Wonder Woman, but you're the reason I watched both John Wick films and for like the 70th time, the Cornetto Trilogy. Thank you!
Still so proud to be from the UK where movies like this and Star Wars are largely made, but still frustratingly confused as to why we don't shout about it more, or have open set days/exhibits or studio tours or movie-based theme parks (aside from the Harry Potter tour and that Paramount theme park that's been 'in development' for about 10 years.....).
Gallipoli, we watched it in history class not just to get a feel for the time it was in and the war and all of that but how the film makers chose to portray that moment in time and how it compared to the history of the actual thing. It was the first time film and reality really shook me and it wouldn't be the last time I had to learn the history to see the cracks and the beauty in the film and reality. See Barefoot Gen, Red Tails, Apollo 13, Wonder Woman( yep this too because WWI is a thing my friends never really remembered so I brought them screaming into that cadywumpus ), and now Chernobyl (miniseries aside) which my Boyfriend knew nothing of and none of my coworkers can pronounce.
Sometimes Film teaches us a lot about what was, how we want to remember it, and drives us to learn what really happened and still circle back to enjoy film. It is all a story about us, who we are, what we do, and how we want to be. So yeah that went weird places but thanks for being amazing.
also Chernobyl the series does Cosmic Horror really well which is hard thanks Polygon for making me think about that shit. bit.ly/2K979gU and add in your Stranger Things episode and I've had a hell of a night so far. Thanks.
I am using this episode to hook people on to you. You do great work. You make me smile, and think.
I couldnt agree more. The film was sooo much more than the others in the universe. I think it was a film that transcended the action scenes, some of which are cool, others are not. So many blockbusters rely on the action and lack the emotional core to make it memorable. Wonder Woman had the opposite, it had the emotion, and while not a perfect film, it was so much deeper than anyone expected.
Gul Dukat really improved his career after being thrown into the fire pit. Also made him dreamy.
I love Ben's Batman but the way you interject him as comedy is GOLD
Wonder Woman is hands down the best movie Warner Brothers has put out in years. The studio/network has serious problems, and it is a miracle that Patty Jenkins and Gal Godot managed to cast off studio notes and make such a good movie.
Thank you for this Christmas (Holiday to all my brothers and sisters who celebrate other events) gift, you are an artist and I deeply appreciate your work!
I no joke needed a restroom break on your reminder.
This is about the 10th time I've watched this. I've worked in film for 25 years. Your passion, and insight, and seeming love of film reminds me why I got into it so long ago. This is great analysis and inspired articulation. Thank you.
please consider breaking down any thoughts you have on The Last Jedi. it's very divisive, and i'd like to hear anything you might have to say about it.
Without spoilers is it divisive in "I think it's good/bad" or is it divisive in some other way?
some people (myself included) absolutely loved it (though i certainly did disagree with some of their choices, but respect that they were their choices and not mine) - and other people REALLY hated it. there's a petition out there with quite a lot of signatures to have Last Jedi completely removed from Star Wars canon.
Oh jeez, well here's to hoping i'll enjoy it at least. Thanks for not spoiling btw some people love to do that.
not a problem. :) i'm a ninja at avoiding spoilers mostly, and i do my best not to spoil things for anyone else. hope you enjoy it! it's definitely a very different Star Wars movie than we've ever seen before, so it was bound to not land with everybody. i mean, in reality, you truly CAN'T please everyone. Rian Johnson basically just made the Star Wars movie he, as a fan, wanted to make. people just need to accept that.
Jesus you made me cry. On several of your Vids. Your way of analyzing movies is too good.
One video request if i may ask for one would be "Swiss Army Man" as ist is just so heart-warmingly odd, yet so unbelievably beautiful. (And it has a Harry Potter utilizing the magic of flatulance in it so... win-win?)
Keep up your excellent work!
Btw: thanks for not talking Troma down, they made good stuff. Well actually they made trash... but with heart and soul and they opened so many doors. Anyone should look up what stars on- and off-screen they got into the works. Its baffling.
Wow. That year was scary huh? 2020 says hold my beer.
"-Iron Giant episode..." Was a massive distraction, be right back, watching the best Super-Man film again.
Love it Mikey! 5am watch in cambodia...! Thanks for the entertainment and insights!
1 - Good video as always
2 - Did you somehow fit all Suicide Squad movie songs in this review, or was that me picking up on something that isn't there
3 - Have a relaxing holiday man, play some games, read some books, crank up some tunes and make time for awesome friends an/or family :)