This is a prime example of what we Wraith players have to put up with. Wraith has a heavily team-focused kit. You can be the BEST Wraith player, if your team don't follow up with your Back Off and ult, you won't do much. Even the CHAMP had to struggle!
If this is the worst team you have ever played with, you're lucky. Ever seen a wukong with atomic solider jump in between a sevarog and his four teammates with prime while trying to 'defend' an inhib 2v5 just so he can try kill sevarog with max stacks? This guy literally ran, from the inhib, jumped over sevarog, and started trying to fight him. And that was just today. There are depths of idiocy and dumbfuckery that this game has shown me that I never thought existed
Bro i had a fucking all agility gem Muriel who was 0/5 in the first 10 mins then blamed us I couldn't fucking believe my eyes the people on this game man
You're absolutely right though. Actually just before this video was posted I had a game where the solo lane Sevarog went to the duo lane so the duo went over to the solo side, I told them they're in the wrong place if it wasn't that obviously so the Sevarog and the support switched but the revenant stayed where he was so it was then support vs duo and a sev/rev duo vs the solo. The Sevarog got the shits with him 'stealing farm' so he went back over to the support and had a Sevarog carry basically. They lost their lane and the rev lost his. The game was a massive cluster fuck and I knew it was a loss before we'd given up a T2. 17mins in see the revenant with no cards besides demolitionist. He goes back and picks up shatter golem, we ask him why he had no cards and is now using shatter golem this late. Finally says "I was saving up for it" Blows my fucking mind.
I had one interesting game few weeks back. I was playing wraith actually, and we had jungle grux. 4 ppl down from enemy team, wave pushing in enemy inhibilator me and grux are pushing against zinx, i was thinking well this is free inhib, but no just about when wave is entering to inhib i notice "attack fangtooth" and grux was gone. I was like WTF? We could take inhib and Then go fangtooth but no he went there, enemy team spawned shortly after i could only take quarter away from inhib alone before i had to back off. This went on whole match, everytime fang spawned, our grux cancelled everything else and went for it. By miracle we won the match, but it could have been so much easier if our grux and rest of gang outside me and my friend wouldnt Be so focussed on fang. Hell once we grouped up for orb, but fangtooth spawned, All of them went there me and my friend were like you gotta Be kidding me, free orb and you All just go for fang?
My best friend and I have been stuck in high gold together since monolith debuted because matchmaking freaking hates us. This is our team literally at least 9 out of 10 times. More braindead and useless than bots. I don't understand how the internal MMR system works but I know it infuriates me to no end.
i Miss Paragon times i looking old Gameplays i was this rampage back then indeed i was salty but i dived Into the tower Because i knew that it was sace
I'll be honest, this was painful to watch. It's like they're sabotaging the champ on purpose! That oblivious grux going for the tower instead of attacking Belica after rewind. RIP
People don't understand what exactly wraith can do and judge he is suck but he not he is good hero in right hands free ward to reveal object and enemy escape ability for team that good enough
Honestly I feel like Wraith's problem isn't that he's weak or under-powered, I feel like his problem lies in the fact of just how team oriented he is. Why do you think he excels in a five stack? It's because there's proper communication, proper follow up. As where in solo q, you won't have that. (Because we all know solo q is a clown fiesta every single time.) Thus leading to him being less picked in solo q, and also thus making him appear weaker than he is.
grux leaving his team for fangtooth before taking an inhib ... bruh ... the introduction of Fangtooth shows real good players from bad ones : "3 enemies down, let's go Fangtooth" My response "no goofball, let's take a tower or two !"
WHY DID THE GRUX LEAVE??? WHAT THE FUCK???????? I'm so glad you posted this, I feel so indentified. These things happen to me every single day, this is how Paragon is for me, haha.
Man ur lucky I get teammates like this every game haha. When my team get three picks they back instead of fang and I get junglers who would rather jungle than fang when most of the enemy team is dead. AI actually group with you to get orb whereas people back to pick up cards. Lmao I been lost faith in humanity.
Thanks for the vid. Glad someone understands Wraith is insanely good, if you know what and how you're suppose to use him. Wraith is defiantly one of my favs.
Hey Ace, is it better to make an ADC like deck for Wraith mid? I usually use a caster deck when mid with Wraith and later on put points in Agility. lmk :)
Do you think Wraith would be a decent pseudo-support with his wards and rewind ability or is better off being a carry? Been trying to mix up my support characters since the Phase nerf.
I can understand your frustration Ace. I always end up with bad teammates and I always end up losing. I am not that much of a bad loser but when it comes to Paragon, I can get really mad if I end up with bad teammates, however I was not like that before V42 when the game was balanced.
What an awesome 👏🏽 😎 Playing Dude, Wp. I liked the way u build Wraith with good idea 👌🏽 btw I enjoyed the video really! And it’s the first time to see u lose a game 🤣
I had an Iggy put down shattergolem and trapper the other day...a zinx who built no mana or health and then a culmination of 7 players who went 0-4 first five minutes of the game then dced🙌🏽
After looking into it, the Grux doesn't seem to play very frequently. Hadn't played the game since feb before this month and only had his 6th match with New dawn AND a newly reworked Grux, so everyone should get off his back(even though he did make bad choices) Things to consider ;) I always like looknig into why me and others loose.
Hardest part of playing Wraith is getting your team to take advantage of his kit. He's an awesome character that is a force multiplier for your team, but almost needs comms to work effectively, unless your team has great awareness.
so i havent played paragon, but is currently downloading it since i see the graphics and gameplay are pretty balanced. But here is my question: Do you have to grind the characters or not? Since i am not sure if you have to or not, but i am pretty sure you have too since it is a MOBA and moba's are more grind then gameplay.
1Reaper666 I dont know how it is now, but in monolith the heroes were unlocked 5 at a time over the course of a month just by logging in. Dont quote me on it, but I think they are all available as soon as you open the game now though.
lol i get matches like this all the time.. i swear i remember two games back tanking fangtooth as wraith even though we clearly had khaimera and and wukong and enemy teams comes and whoop ... sometimes paragon gives me anger issues xD
This is the problem when people don't know what there doing on this game , kudos to you ace , smashed it but only so much you can do mate well played champ
You know what i hate You see a person with a great skin and your like "ohh he must be a good player" but then you realise he's a complete idiot Grux is that person 😂
Loot crates and keys poor out of Epic Games' every orifice. Everyone and their dog has at least 5 cool skins. Whenever you see someone with a wicked skin, just assume they earned it 5 minutes prior, and on a hero they've never touched, and they're only playing that Riktor because St. Rik is cool, and hooks are easy, right?
Had a similar match last night and i know how it feels. Went 10/3 and we were dominating. I went afk for 1 min and all the team died and threw the game. still wraith is my most fun character and will always be.
Welcome to my world 7 out of 10 games i play i have team like yours 2 out 10 someone DC and only 1 game is good. 2 days ago, i was playing game as jungle grux 3 times in a match i get quadra kill and we still lost. Nobody pushed, i think all towers we took i had to Be there take them out. I couldnt possibly Do more for team. We got orb prime twice, yet instead push with it, i look back and team i had with me went to jungle or fangtooth. We had twin who constantly jumped on ganks. It was easily one of worst teams i had. Also i cannot even count how many times ive had gideon with full agility build shatter golem heavy hitter multishot. Zero investment to int or ability damage.
Damn Ace I feel your pain man I know what you are going through right now man god. gotta commend that Kwangs amazing Prime Guke but still really insane how you guys couldnt win that.
Honestly you did a great job ace your team just sucked ass that Grux and Murdock were terrible. At least you did a good job and we got to see some great Wraith action. Can't wait for Terra to come out too!
I am currently high gold. And I mastered wraith. Following that, playing him in he carry lane is my favorite lane to play. But there is only two types of people who play wraith. Wraith Masters, or new players. Soooo
A jungler who builds health rather than damage, but still being useless. Here I thought intelligence and competence went hand in hand. Shows what I know.
Me and my friends usually 3 stack up to 5 but when it's not a 5 stack we get randoms and they are always trash constantly dieing constantly starting fights that are not worth we stay having to carry them and the worst part is when I play with PC people I'm on ps4 no offense but PC people are always the first to complain and type that every1 is trash when they themselves are feeding and a waste of space and they are always the first to sit at base typing away when they should be helping the team and most of the time while they're being toxic af we still win but hey the higher you get the more toxic the teammates I guess
This is why I almost exclusively play carries. I'd love to play other champs but whenever I do, I get an absolute idiot on carry who is never there for a teamfight, only goes in when it's obvious suicide and never assists when it's obvious that we can secure a kill.
This is a prime example of what we Wraith players have to put up with. Wraith has a heavily team-focused kit. You can be the BEST Wraith player, if your team don't follow up with your Back Off and ult, you won't do much. Even the CHAMP had to struggle!
Welcome to Bronze Ace
Timothy Pagan people are that dumb in silver and gold too didnt start to see player that really know the game before plat
This was lower than bronze. Much lower
This is between tutorial and first game..
If this is the worst team you have ever played with, you're lucky. Ever seen a wukong with atomic solider jump in between a sevarog and his four teammates with prime while trying to 'defend' an inhib 2v5 just so he can try kill sevarog with max stacks? This guy literally ran, from the inhib, jumped over sevarog, and started trying to fight him. And that was just today. There are depths of idiocy and dumbfuckery that this game has shown me that I never thought existed
Dennis Reynolds HAHAHAHAHA! This is so true, that happened to me yesterday, but it was 1v5, amazing.
Bro i had a fucking all agility gem Muriel who was 0/5 in the first 10 mins then blamed us I couldn't fucking believe my eyes the people on this game man
lmao im dying
You're absolutely right though. Actually just before this video was posted I had a game where the solo lane Sevarog went to the duo lane so the duo went over to the solo side, I told them they're in the wrong place if it wasn't that obviously so the Sevarog and the support switched but the revenant stayed where he was so it was then support vs duo and a sev/rev duo vs the solo. The Sevarog got the shits with him 'stealing farm' so he went back over to the support and had a Sevarog carry basically. They lost their lane and the rev lost his. The game was a massive cluster fuck and I knew it was a loss before we'd given up a T2. 17mins in see the revenant with no cards besides demolitionist. He goes back and picks up shatter golem, we ask him why he had no cards and is now using shatter golem this late. Finally says "I was saving up for it"
Blows my fucking mind.
I had one interesting game few weeks back. I was playing wraith actually, and we had jungle grux. 4 ppl down from enemy team, wave pushing in enemy inhibilator me and grux are pushing against zinx, i was thinking well this is free inhib, but no just about when wave is entering to inhib i notice "attack fangtooth" and grux was gone. I was like WTF? We could take inhib and Then go fangtooth but no he went there, enemy team spawned shortly after i could only take quarter away from inhib alone before i had to back off. This went on whole match, everytime fang spawned, our grux cancelled everything else and went for it. By miracle we won the match, but it could have been so much easier if our grux and rest of gang outside me and my friend wouldnt Be so focussed on fang. Hell once we grouped up for orb, but fangtooth spawned, All of them went there me and my friend were like you gotta Be kidding me, free orb and you All just go for fang?
All my games been like this for the past week -_-
Worse when the chat is not bugged and the team can unleash the cancerous messages
I swear I have been having the same games. I had a belica feed so bad like 1/15. In the same game a kwang and steel going jungle......-_-
Same here, I wonder if the Terra announce brought a new wave of players.
WATCH OUT FOR THE CHRISTMAS NOOBS
Bro its nice to see someone who puts matches they actually lose. Respect earned.
187Corly Bands well, he usually puts matches he wins for a while to be fair lol
21:22 I never laughed so hard. Made my day
Patrick Frei maybe he had to pee lol
Some legends say that a CHAMP still can be matched with a bronze skilled team...
this team right here, is why i stopped playing. This team is what i get 95% of the time.
jerod johnson i feel you bro, i stopped playing this game for a few days because of this stressful teams playing so stupid
I can relate but have patience, this moba has a steeper learning curves then other mobas, there are new unique players coming in.
My best friend and I have been stuck in high gold together since monolith debuted because matchmaking freaking hates us. This is our team literally at least 9 out of 10 times. More braindead and useless than bots. I don't understand how the internal MMR system works but I know it infuriates me to no end.
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That damn grux damnit he goes stealthed and he is still smacking the rampage lmao
Lol that rampage got so salty he chased you under tower.
i Miss Paragon times i looking old Gameplays i was this rampage back then indeed i was salty but i dived Into the tower Because i knew that it was sace
I'll be honest, this was painful to watch. It's like they're sabotaging the champ on purpose! That oblivious grux going for the tower instead of attacking Belica after rewind. RIP
Ace's back must be broken from all the carrying he does, feelsbadman.
And it wasn't enough to win the game feelsbad
Welcome to my world my dude
People don't understand what exactly wraith can do and judge he is suck but he not he is good hero in right hands free ward to reveal object and enemy escape ability for team that good enough
Honestly I feel like Wraith's problem isn't that he's weak or under-powered, I feel like his problem lies in the fact of just how team oriented he is. Why do you think he excels in a five stack? It's because there's proper communication, proper follow up. As where in solo q, you won't have that. (Because we all know solo q is a clown fiesta every single time.) Thus leading to him being less picked in solo q, and also thus making him appear weaker than he is.
Omg Wraith’s jump pad pose
grux leaving his team for fangtooth before taking an inhib ... bruh ...
the introduction of Fangtooth shows real good players from bad ones :
"3 enemies down, let's go Fangtooth"
My response "no goofball, let's take a tower or two !"
HLAIBI Safouane - UpSuicidal fangtooth if early game, towers if later because fang in the long run is worth not taking a T1
Or just split up the team
WHY DID THE GRUX LEAVE??? WHAT THE FUCK????????
I'm so glad you posted this, I feel so indentified. These things happen to me every single day, this is how Paragon is for me, haha.
Worst team? I get worse team every day
gotta love pub trash. I feel your pain.
yeah this is literally every other game when your playing on lower MMR.
The champ is just not used to that :P
Man ur lucky I get teammates like this every game haha. When my team get three picks they back instead of fang and I get junglers who would rather jungle than fang when most of the enemy team is dead. AI actually group with you to get orb whereas people back to pick up cards. Lmao I been lost faith in humanity.
Play greystone I barely see him picked
I have one in most of my games somehow
Play greystone with thorned yomi. You can pull off 3v1s with that and compensator rig.
Ace is literally my soul rn when i play paragon. So many missed objectives because people want to jungle or take Fangtooth over O.P
Thanks for the vid. Glad someone understands Wraith is insanely good, if you know what and how you're suppose to use him. Wraith is defiantly one of my favs.
This is how most games go... This matchmaking is SO BROKEN!
Man I've never heard Ace so Defeated. #Feelsbadman
THANK YOU SO MUCH RGSACE FOR LISTENING TO MY COMMENT AND PLAYING WRAITH
Watching the game is way much fun than playing it 🌚
Sairs Rex *Suffering through it*
Lamo
Omg i can‘t believe this really happened. That grux is a legend!! Soooo funny... how cool he ignored your rewinds and the inhib. 🤪
first time I've seen Ace die three times in one game...feels bad
Was that Bloodthirsty as your jungler? Those 900iq rotations!
LOOL
That was your worst team? I always got those ppl!
so mana generator? we not the multishot? for wavw clear and such
I've actually been playing wraith supp a lot lately. It's been really fun, especially when the enemy supp is a steel.
I made a deck for Wraith with Dune Winds and Growth Totem, to counteract Dune Winds, by end game I was dealing 600+ on basic attacks on a crit.
Why does your field look different from mine.
Hey Ace, is it better to make an ADC like deck for Wraith mid? I usually use a caster deck when mid with Wraith and later on put points in Agility. lmk :)
Crunch offlane next
I have only ever seen one good wrath. And you're him.
Also. First
Do you think Wraith would be a decent pseudo-support with his wards and rewind ability or is better off being a carry? Been trying to mix up my support characters since the Phase nerf.
Oh...and I came here to watch this vid because I’ve been smashing people with Wraith after I mastered Murdock...Good vid dude👌🏽
how do you get your hud like that?
i was rampage this game i was also pretty bad u deserved to win haha
I reckon his knock knock should be based on basic damage rather than ability damage
You should totally make a bloopers reel of this game with clown fiesta music in the background. Lmfao
watching you playin these difficult heroes makes it much easier than playin them our selves
I can understand your frustration Ace. I always end up with bad teammates and I always end up losing. I am not that much of a bad loser but when it comes to Paragon, I can get really mad if I end up with bad teammates, however I was not like that before V42 when the game was balanced.
lol you finally posted a loss
What an awesome 👏🏽 😎 Playing Dude, Wp. I liked the way u build Wraith with good idea 👌🏽 btw I enjoyed the video really! And it’s the first time to see u lose a game 🤣
Does anyone know how he gets his user interface the way he has in his videos?
Settings -> HUD -> Advanced
I had an Iggy put down shattergolem and trapper the other day...a zinx who built no mana or health and then a culmination of 7 players who went 0-4 first five minutes of the game then dced🙌🏽
After looking into it, the Grux doesn't seem to play very frequently. Hadn't played the game since feb before this month and only had his 6th match with New dawn AND a newly reworked Grux, so everyone should get off his back(even though he did make bad choices)
Things to consider ;)
I always like looknig into why me and others loose.
It would be sick if wraith had a headshot multiplayer
Hardest part of playing Wraith is getting your team to take advantage of his kit. He's an awesome character that is a force multiplier for your team, but almost needs comms to work effectively, unless your team has great awareness.
Why you never play with greystone?
Wraith is the Kallari of ranged heroes lol makes perfect sense
The chat things a bug I had it too multiple times
lmao what did i just witness xD but still, u gotta admit that grux play when he sneaked behind them was nice ^^
so i havent played paragon, but is currently downloading it since i see the graphics and gameplay are pretty balanced.
But here is my question: Do you have to grind the characters or not?
Since i am not sure if you have to or not, but i am pretty sure you have too since it is a MOBA and moba's are more grind then gameplay.
1Reaper666 I dont know how it is now, but in monolith the heroes were unlocked 5 at a time over the course of a month just by logging in. Dont quote me on it, but I think they are all available as soon as you open the game now though.
All characters are free but you have to get to level 13 before unlocking the more advanced heroes
Ayy thanks for letting me know. Also great content =D
Welcome in hell😅
Earth is hell. Death is heaven.
Welcome to my life
Ace can u do a greystone jungle vid? He shows up as a jungler when u lock in the jungle position. Only u can handle this type of craziness champ.
At what point are you aloud to flame your teammates?
may have to check to see if that grux is legally blind
I took a break from paragon after get a few team's like that over a 3 day period.
Chat isn't working idk why I can't type either
Oh baby I got the moves... hahah my man!
Man the playes, great gamplay.
That Grux had me dying
lol i get matches like this all the time.. i swear i remember two games back tanking fangtooth as wraith even though we clearly had khaimera and and wukong and enemy teams comes and whoop ... sometimes paragon gives me anger issues xD
This is the problem when people don't know what there doing on this game , kudos to you ace , smashed it but only so much you can do mate well played champ
You know what i hate
You see a person with a great skin and your like "ohh he must be a good player" but then you realise he's a complete idiot
Grux is that person 😂
Loot crates and keys poor out of Epic Games' every orifice. Everyone and their dog has at least 5 cool skins. Whenever you see someone with a wicked skin, just assume they earned it 5 minutes prior, and on a hero they've never touched, and they're only playing that Riktor because St. Rik is cool, and hooks are easy, right?
Lol I feel you dad,this is my team 95%of the time but we somehow clutch it
Wow that was terrible! Reminds me when I'm forced to tank the Fang as Sparrow feelsbadman
This grux is not the DareDevil ! XD Very good placing and play..
Had a similar match last night and i know how it feels. Went 10/3 and we were dominating. I went afk for 1 min and all the team died and threw the game. still wraith is my most fun character and will always be.
this is actually my life
Mine too
Lol you are lucky bro cause I experience teams like that at least once a week it’s so frustrating but it’s the grind
aaaaaand that's how my games go....
Soooooooooo how nice is the new matchmaking system gonna feel? Lol
It always happens to me, I always seem to be the only person using the brain on my team..
Welcome to my world 7 out of 10 games i play i have team like yours 2 out 10 someone DC and only 1 game is good. 2 days ago, i was playing game as jungle grux 3 times in a match i get quadra kill and we still lost. Nobody pushed, i think all towers we took i had to Be there take them out. I couldnt possibly Do more for team. We got orb prime twice, yet instead push with it, i look back and team i had with me went to jungle or fangtooth. We had twin who constantly jumped on ganks. It was easily one of worst teams i had. Also i cannot even count how many times ive had gideon with full agility build shatter golem heavy hitter multishot. Zero investment to int or ability damage.
All of my games have been like this last two weeks
Miss that game soooo much :(
You're not the CHAMP this game deserves...
You're the CHAMP this game needs... oh, baby, does it need you...
I see you also enjoy the matchmaking in this game lmao
Damn Ace I feel your pain man I know what you are going through right now man god. gotta commend that Kwangs amazing Prime Guke but still really insane how you guys couldnt win that.
This hurt to watch ace
AHAHAHHAAA THAT GRUX THOUGH.
I literally cried.
It's the new matchmaking system. Since you're the champ they have to balance it by giving you the worst possible teammates.
you're the best ace
This is every game for me
Lmfao grux is clueless
Honestly you did a great job ace your team just sucked ass that Grux and Murdock were terrible. At least you did a good job and we got to see some great Wraith action. Can't wait for Terra to come out too!
I am currently high gold. And I mastered wraith. Following that, playing him in he carry lane is my favorite lane to play. But there is only two types of people who play wraith. Wraith Masters, or new players. Soooo
A jungler who builds health rather than damage, but still being useless. Here I thought intelligence and competence went hand in hand. Shows what I know.
Me and my friends usually 3 stack up to 5 but when it's not a 5 stack we get randoms and they are always trash constantly dieing constantly starting fights that are not worth we stay having to carry them and the worst part is when I play with PC people I'm on ps4 no offense but PC people are always the first to complain and type that every1 is trash when they themselves are feeding and a waste of space and they are always the first to sit at base typing away when they should be helping the team and most of the time while they're being toxic af we still win but hey the higher you get the more toxic the teammates I guess
to your advantage you are the most entertaining when you're enraged. if you want a repeat you should play with me! XD
This is why I almost exclusively play carries. I'd love to play other champs but whenever I do, I get an absolute idiot on carry who is never there for a teamfight, only goes in when it's obvious suicide and never assists when it's obvious that we can secure a kill.
Lol I legitimately think that grux had no idea what wraiths kit can do
Because not enough people play Wraith to let others get good enough experience fighting beside him for optimized team work sadly...