How to Coil Your Rope - the butterfly and mountaineer's coil.
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- Опубликовано: 21 мар 2015
- How to properly coil climbing/caving rope. Here we show two ways coiling rope using the mountaineer's coil and the butterfly coil. We also show how to make the butterfly coil into a convenient backpack for easy carrying.
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I've watched about ten of these so far. Your video is the best man, thank you.
This is the best coiling video on RUclips. Definitely going to use these methods.
That was AWESOME. As a firefighter, I'm familiar with rope, but the things that you climbers know is amazing! Subscribed.
So, I watched a few vids on this...and most left me guessing, but dude's vid gave me everything I needed to get going with a new rope. Good explanation of terms and techniques.
Nice video man, picked it up like nothing watching this.
just tried the butterfly coil, and it worked perfectly, thank you!
Thanks so much. Flaking the rope was key
Gr8 video. Thank you. Str8 2 the point
The first one is also known as the alpine coil. Except I'd recommend making at least 6 wraps, keeping it a little tighter. You can also leave out less rope ends so they aren't dangling around when you finish off the wrap.
Best to combine both techniques. Start with butterfly coils and tie off with a mountaineer's knot resulting in one coil on each side of your pack . Steve Thaw, Moraga, California
Thanks.
I prefer a rope bag but it is nice to know other methods. be careful of marking or taping the center part of the rope. The chemicals in sharpies, other markers, and tape adhesives can weaken the rope over time.
What if the rope is so long that it challenges how much you can hold onto when doing butterfly coil?
Tormod Steinsholt cut it
@@bigredj87 Solved it. I have now gone over to this technique. Doesn't need the center of the rope and doesn't snag when coiling or uncoiling. Just superior. ruclips.net/video/WfvioMwTVUo/видео.html
Technically, you’re not flaking a rope unless you’re coiling it, as each turn is a flake. When you’re uncoiling you’re flaking it *out*.
Too fast on the very first step of wrapping it around.
Happens to fast. Slow down.
This obviously fake!
Your "around the shoulder" technique is not good for the rope. The rope will start to kink because if you take the rope then as a line it will have a turnaround fore each loop.
Agreed, the mountaineers coil is good but only if you can keep the twist out of the rope. You either have to keep twisting it in the correct orientation as you coil it to keep the "bad" twisting from happening (which takes some work) or hang it off a ledge as you coil it to let the end of the rope turn itself
Gay. The methods I learned are far more functional. Neither one of these allows you to grab an end and throw the rope without snarling it. True, the other methods take a LOT more work, but they are considerably more functional and no amount of travel or mistreatment will see a failure to uncoil with a single throw.
The utility of a coiling method is entirely dependent on its purpose. if you want a fast and easy way to carry rope between locations, then the butterfly coil is a nice one to know. If you want to be able to throw the rope and have it uncoil effortlessly, then perhaps the coils you are familiar with are more effective. In other words, there are no "gay" coils - only different coils better suited for different purposes (and you may want to extend your vocabulary to include other words other than "gay" to describe things you don't like lest you portray yourself as bigoted homophobe; unless you are one, in which case continue representing yourself accurately.) It also bears mentioning that the butterfly coil mentioned in this video CAN actually be thrown and uncoiled effortlessly as you have described, if coiled properly.
Point taken, although the lack would be in utilizing imagination, rather than a paucity of vocabulary. Growing up, we used that word to denote something that is weak and ineffectual. It seems the video caused me to revert a bit. Given that everybody seems to take offense at almost anything these days, I will definitely use a different term. But any word intended to be dismissive and derogatory is bound to offend someone, so it seems that the problem isn't in my word choice, but in the fact that I felt the need to be dismissive and derogatory in the first place. That was just not called for.
jeligula My interpretation of the above response, to your use of a word that should describe somebody's sexual orientation (or older use meaning happy), would be that the critique was aimed at your use of "gay" to be a derogatory term, not your issues with the functionality of coiling methods. I would have also used this term in a derogatory or joking fashion when I was more ignorant than I am now!
Do you have any links to the methods you prefer?