This time last year I weighed 173kg and had full blown type 2 diabetes. Saw a health coach/dietician who started educating me about UPF, then soon after the algorithm figured it out and started showing me Dr VT. Went through my cupboards and fridge and tossed everything ultraprocessed - full scorched earth elimination. In the last year I've shed 47kg, resumed training Brazilian Jiu Jitsu 3x a week and started running 3x a week. The diabetes is now in remission and I no longer need to take any meds to regulate blood sugar levels. Chris is doing the Lord's work, along with the likes of Tim Spector and Rob Lustig. Their messaging has been absolutely instrumental in turning my situation around and keeping me out of an early grave. Still need to drop another 20-30kg but I'm on the right track now.
Great! I am taking this journey since this year (24 lost, around 10-15 to go). What Chris VT is for you an „equivalent tv-doctor“ in my country is for me. I feel the way you are going an i am so excited where it will lead me. Wish you all the best.
I’m glad this guy acknowledges how a lot of his accomplishments are due to luck in his circumstances. That’s an enormously difficult thing to keep in mind for people considered successful and those feeling useless.
The part where they talked about being laughed at and ridiculed for talking about this really resonates with me. I have stopped trying to tell my family that the food they are eating is bad for them because they treat me like I'm a conspiracy theory nut. It's extremely frustrating because I have 5 grandchildren under 8 years old, from 3 daughters, who are being fed these substances and I can't do anything to stop it. I just hope things change before it's too late for them.
Parents have to teach this. We all know junk food is bad, but it's not taught so much, and a lot of people don't realise or don't care that much. It's especially hard because it's got stupid amounts of funding to be addictive.
Perhaps I can help you with this. I had the same issue with my family and I noticed that they won't pay attention to "too refined" lectures about this matter. They tire easily. Just tell them that they're eating FAKE food. That made the trick for me. They don't want to hear the whole explanation, they will simply become curious and start reading the darn ingredient tags on their own 😑. They'll educate themselves. You cannot save someone who doesn't think that needs saving
I am 78 years old and you are my hero. I love what you do, I love your approach, you have saved me from the slippery slope of Ultra Processed food. You are saving lives every day because of enlightenment. Thank you thank you.
I’ve noticed my son’s behaviour is ridiculous when he’s been given sweets or eating ultra processed food. We now only give him fruit and veg as snacks. He’s allowed one treat day a month where he can go and spend 5 pounds at his local shop and what we’ve noticed is, he now comes home with reduced fruit and makes himself a fruit salad and he sits there eating it. He won’t ask for sweets anymore. His school work has improved. His sleep has improved his behaviour is amazing. Please stop letting your kids eat all the rubbish they want. It’s effecting every area of their life’s 😊
Chris is doing gods work. What he is saying will be seen as some of the most important research and work around public health in our lifetimes. Keep doing what you’re doing Chris and thank you
Dr Chris has made more sense to me about my weight struggles, than 40 years of yo yo dieting, always looking for the next healthy eating plan that is going to work, long term. Since January I have lost over 80lbs and will not be going back to my old habits or UPF's, I have my health back inc my mental health and feel better in my fifties than I ever have.❤.
After cutting out all of the junk and all processed foods for months, when I eat anything processed i can feel how not only my digestion changes but my mood and the general way i feel, it is amazing and they are highly addictive.
It’s crazy. After just one fast food meal you can feel absolutely awful the next day. It’s horrifying to realize I spent years eating that multiple times a week, on top of UPF ice creams and cookies and cakes. No wonder I felt like shit everyday. When I was a kid I was very athletic and fit, I prided myself on being healthy. In my teen years I did a total 180 and became super unhealthy because I moved in with my aunt who ate fast food and drank multiple sodas DAILY. We had a soda cabinet in the house where we kept 24 packs of soda, and she would replenish them weekly. I gained SO much weight and so many chronic health issues. I am so grateful I have the ability to take back control of my health! I feel AMAZING and I am never going back!
Great interview! I would urge anyone who hasn't read Chris' book, "Ultra-Processed People' to rush out and get it! Be warned - it's life-changing! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Fantastic podcast interviewing a wonderful man. I have learnt so much from him as a person who has been a lifelong sugar addict. I hope the new UK Government listens to him and is courageous enough to instigate real change. Just one note.When Chris talks about the microbiome being disrupted by emulsifiers, he doesn't make the point that 70% of serotonin that is a happiness hormone is made in that gut and that a leaky, inflamed gut cannot perform well, thus affecting the mental health that Jake was trying to understand.
It's so refreshing to see intelligent people at last speaking the truth with evidence. It's a real struggle to be on whole cooked food 7 days a week if you haven't been to other places than the modern industrialised culture you are living in . Unfortunately, the human connection between family life and healthy food is completely broken 💔 😮 in these countries.
He has a world of information and is a true humanitarian. Whenever I see him being interviewed, I always listen. I don't know about the UK, but here in Canada you can also get his book - physical book, e-book and audiobook - at libraries. I wish he would mention that, to look in the library. I've got it out for a second time and am re-reading it, a fantastic book!
I live in Australia where we also have a health / obesity crisis. I recall spending a month in Rome with extended family many years ago. The entire time, everybody had smaller portions than what I was used to. Nobody snacked between meals. They ate their food slowly, putting their fork down between bites savouring their meals with the occasional glass of wine. My cousins children did not eat any ultra processed food. I saw “one” boiled lolly being eaten by a 5 year old. She asked for another one and her mother said “Basta”….(enough in Italian) I was shocked. They are all thin. Many go for slow walks after dinner. I also saw ice-cream being eaten once. It wasn’t in their freezer. They had to go and buy it. Everybody had 2 scoops. Not a large bowl full of icecream as I see being eaten here in Australia. They eat real food, Period. Where have we gone wrong?
It probably has to do something with how settler colony countries don't have a lot of history/culture. I feel like in countries like Italy where the culture and history goes back for many millennia, they already have grandfathered in food culture and are unwilling to let the food industry wreck that.
That was many years ago. I was in Rome (and other places in Italy) last year, and many Italians are now obese. So are the children. It was so bad that I remember feeling somewhat shocked.
There are a lot of regulations in Europe. Lots of additives are not even allowed to be used. Worse for businesses but better for people. Even so the obesity is on rise in European countries. But not in so extreme form like in US.
@@antmanandthecod6073 and we've also been eating meat pies since the 14th century. Difference is, we all eat more and don't have to plough fields by hand.
Power to Dr. Chris. I've listened to him speak on this issue on a few videos. I personally love hearing about the inside of the food industry: such as Coke funding certain things, or when he read out the email from McDonalds etc... (sounds like they want to pay him so they can use it against him in the future). He's so right about the financial aspect of these issues. I always think about those top food scientists who put all their efforts into this manipulated bad food for a pay check. We all have to make a living i suppose, but id love to know how those guys really feel about their work (and what their kids eat). Keep shouting your message Dr. Chris.
The interview was kind of all over the place but I've read his book and it is fantastic! He does such a good job of explaining UPFs and how they've become part of every meal. He does a wonderful job at exposing what drives food companies.
The cost of real food is ridiculous. I think one of the reasons I'm able to eat whole foods or real food all the time is because I have an ok job and live alone with no dependents. Even then, I still spend £60 to £70 a week on meat, veg, eggs, dairy, fruit, nuts, seeds. For that amount of money, I could probably buy at least two or even three weeks worth of frozen sausages, frozen mince, and 2kg bags of frozen chips, pasta, supermarket brand sauce and tins, loaves of cheap white bread, luncheon meat etc. The reverse needs to be the case.
But when you spend money on real food you’re investing in your health and longevity. I’ve heard people complain that they can’t afford fresh fruit and veg and the next minute they’re discussing buying a new TV! It’s a question of priorities. You really are doing right by yourself, good for you
As I listen to this, I'm making my daughter and her kids a lasagna. She is getting over covid. From start to finish I'm looking at many hours before it's ready. It's totally understandable why time-poor people opt for the same meal in a box.
Totally. Absolutely it's understandable, this is why we have to make systemic change. The idea that we all have free choice about our food when the poorest and busiest people have so much less time and money than the richest and least busy is just silly.
food doesn't have to take a long time or be expensive. But the person cooking it does have to have some knowledge of food. I learnt from my mother and school also taught us how to prepare useful dishes not the thing's they do now. Also it's not only the poor who eat ultra processed food, I take issue with that!
@Elspm We need to stop thinking in black and white terms about advantage and disadvantage, opportunity and lack of opportunity when it comes to achieving a healthy diet across the socioeconomic strata. Just because a person makes more money doesn’t necessarily mean that they have more time to cook than those who have less money (they often do not). Just because someone is low income and doesn't have access to some food products that are affordable and accessible to people of greater income doesn’t mean they don't have any resource to do better at all.
I'm currently in Mexico on vacation. I am astonished at the rates of obesity and metabolic syndrome here...over 90% by my estimate. Supermarkets are full of non-food i.e. highly processed rubbish that doesn't even look like food to me. Everything is cooked in vegetable seed oils.
I always focus on eating real whole food made from scratch and hardly ever dine out. If out, I’ll order salads and or streamed veg with no oil or dressing, maybe a Greek or goats cheese salad. If there’s nothing suitable when out with others, I’ll just not eat. On holidays I’ll buy super market foods like salad, cheese, Greek yogurt, berries, boiled eggs, nuts and eat in my hotel room our picnic outside. I focus on plenty of protein. I don’t consume seed oils. I’m totally uncompromising and frankly don’t care what others think. It’s basically like, eat real food like your life depends on it. I also walk a lot, have a treadmill desk, lift heavy weights, meditate, use sauna, and ensure I get good sleep. Also also ditched all alcohol (used to drink dry red wine), after watching Andrew H podcast. I feel amazing at 53. I’ve actually never been overweight, I’m approx 8 1/2 stone and I’ve been a strict vegetarian since age 14, but reckon animal protein is good (it’s just my personal choice). I’m deeply cynical about big food and big pharma.
This (USP food) is an "Industrially produced edible substance designed to take your health and turn it into money for investors Food is about love and community and health and family" Fantastic words
dear Dr. Chris, if it is any consolation, you don't have to be an esteemed academic to make a significant clinical meaning ful impact on an individual's life and society. you have made a wonderful positive impact with your book and podcast. thank you so much for your contributions to individual and public health. Best wishes, Reimara Valk
Von Tulleken's story makes it patently if not painfully obvious. At the heart of just about everything is social equality or more exactly supportive stability with parents who do not have more children than they can love and remember the names of preferably in a stabile society where the do not have to move until they go to university or vocational school.
When I'm sick and don't have an appetite, yet I am hungry, there are certain UPFs that I turn to. Outside of this one circumstance, I am quite grossed out by UPF substances. I ate some chocolate the other day, and it tasted like plastic - I usually only eat 70% or higher cocoa dark chocolate. I used to love junk as a child, teen, and 20-something young adult. I would eat them like an addict. But now I'm older, they taste like synthetic chemicals and have weird textures that make me sick.... You can absolutely train your taste out of junk and into enjoying real foods. Especially if you fall in love with the other benefits of eating real foods.
Me again, I get the part about no stove top however there are hot plates and even most in studio flats / a room have a microwave. Takeaway and pre-prepared food is expensive. There is lots of nutrient dense, healthy cheap food (eggs, Aldi Greek yogurt, cheese, some fruit and veg etc) and eating these type of foods leads to satiety (feel full, for longer), so you can end up eating less, and perhaps have 2 main meals a day, also goes well with time restricted eating / intermittent fasting. What Chris is saying is much needed education and we need much more of this, such as the work of the Public Health Collaborative which promotes real food, low carb ways of eating. Keep up the great work.
Huge thanks I thought I didn't eat Ultra processed but after listening to u I realise l did like doritos and vege sausags and pasta with "3 times thefibre" etc so after a week I could feel the difference I wasn't hungry all the time I bought the book and am spreading the word Australia is the same as UK no decent food labelling no black hexagon
For the folks who may be finding it difficult to get a lot of real food, you can hack it a bit if you have access to a small rice cooker, rice, and eggs. That's all you need. No need for a fridge, or even a counter or a kitchen. Cook a bowl of rice, put it into a bowl. Crack the egg over it while it's still piping hot and mix well. Should cook the egg. Season with salt and pepper. Maybe drizzle in soy sauce or some vinegar. Add veggies and protein as they are available. Could also use the rice cooker to poach those, too, before cooking the rice.
I got away from processed food, permanently, about 12 years ago. So, to me, the notion that people are still eating it at virtually every meal, is totally bizarre, in the same way I'd think about a meth addict and their habit.
Corporation's & greed has caused all problems ❗ When the people owned the shop's before the Corporation's monopolised everything this wasn't a problem...wake up ❗
Eating healthy shouldn’t be difficult, but for some it is and it infuriates me that the food industry is so keen and ready to exploit that …just for profit!
@@harvinderubhi5540You completely missed the point of this ENTIRE conversation, and this man’s entire mission. People cannot make informed decisions without information. The only reason you and I know these things is because we have access to the information. Not everyone does, and they deserve to. Your “everyone for themselves” attitude is part of the reason we ended up in this position as a society in the first place. You need to grow up.
I was waiting for somebody I had a chicken sandwich at a fast food joint and after eating I was hungry so I had another one then I was really hungry and I had a third I was really really hungry then I stopped and never went back I realized that food should sate you not make you more hungry. Food addiction is more difficult than heroin because you don't have heroin in ketchup you don't have your breakfast cereal with sugar in it you don't have to sprinkle a little bit of heroin on your breakfast and then try and not take it the rest of the day whereas with sugar you do and it took me awhile to break the sugar habit because of yeast and endotoxins I eventually beat it but it still haunts me I still walk in grocery store and really really wanna buy something sweet. it's a lifelong problem.
Agreed, also surprised me that this channel would push TRT as well. Especially implying that 1 in 4 men need it. Surely the first step is diet and exercise.... TRT should be a last resort
A friend of mine brought up her daughter with phrases like "Behave yourself or you will not get extra sprouts/kale/spinach/green beans" / whatever This obviously translates in the childs brain that these must be a 'good' thing - a reward! The 'bubble' gets burst when the child goes to primary school and her peers tell her she has been duped and she should be rewarded with cake/sweets/McD whatever but it is now far too late for her to claim that she doesn't like the previously craved for and coveted "extra sprouts/kale/spinach/green beans" / whatever
Thank you for this, i found it so interesting and shocking what food companies get away with. If only it were as simple as us all voting with our wallets and being able to buy proper unprocessed food.
Food is not the problem. Businesses will make something else that is additive. The problem is that we have to learn basic maths, can work out the risk and benefit. The difficult one is that how to deal with our temptation and have some level of self-control.
I cut the junk 10yrs ago, it was life changing for our whole family. I’ve since gone further and been carnivore for 4yrs now and I never knew it was possible to feel this good and be this healthy. He’s doing some good, it’s a start but some of his advice is wrong about fat and salt, for example good quality grass fed meat and Celtic sea salt these are really good for you, we need saturated fat, we need a lot of sea salt. Seed/veg oils are highly processed and toxic and should be avoided. Also table salt avoid that too.
Inhave read the book, i am mainly a cook from scratch 'mum' ...i have been given the opportunity in my job to turn around school catering function aside from my day job. You talk about people taking the head out of the swamp but if you are in a part of the country where people dont know anything else than the swamp, and are comfortable in the swamp who are safe in the swamp, who dont have the means to get out of the seamp themselves, how do i get buy in from parents and carers to offer the children to get out of the swamp! advice required
I’ve heard on a few of the podcasts I watch that some of the food companies want to make some improvements (in relative terms to these shit food) however the shareholders are the blockers and also concerns about lack of regulation i.e. not a level playing field with other manufacturers. It’s really just best avoided.
Is it the ultra processed food having all these negative effects as a result of the ingredients or is it ultra processed food causes people to be overweight or obese and that causes the issues.
22:55 these "engineered" products ARE actually coming from real food but they have been isolated so much that the micros that suppose to do that job, are now out of work and the body doesn't know what to do with it.
Low Carb or ultimately Carnivore should be the human ultimate goal, Carnivore is how humans evolved to eat, we are higher up the food chain and Carbohydrates are not essential and not needed, however to get the most out of Carnivore you are what the animal eats and these days farm animal welfare and how they are fed (except Cows and Sheep and so called organic meat) is not good. As you already know, changing ones way of eating to Low Cab or Carnivore is not about weight loss, it's about getting ones Metabolic Health to an optimum state. Steroids seem to be the latest money earner for the Pharmaceutical industry and doctors and nurses pushing them onto cohorts via the NICE guidelines, I'm mentioning this because I'm Carnivore for the past year (Low Carb before that) and have been pushed Asthma steroids which caused weight gain, because these steroids impede protein synthesis. N.B. my Asthma did 99% go away (still got asthma attacks from mold spores in clothing) when I started Low Carb, but now it has returned, Asthma is virus induced too, plenty of that around lately. Anyway, avoid Steroids to see true results with Carnivore.
Recall when smoking was being taxed to persuade people to stop. Some said. It's unfair on the poor because smoking is one of the few enjoyments they have...Looking back that argument now seems mad and nearly criminal
Eat shit food, take unnecessary highly toxic drugs = huge win win for the mega drug and food corporations. It's a revolving door business model for the corporate machine.
You’ve made a video about the evils of ultra processed food and you’re advertising Huel in the background which is ultra processed. You’ve lost all credibility there. You don’t want to help people be healthy, you just want advertising money. Hypocrites
I just want some chicen... My ah ha was when I ate a chicken nugget and it not only tasted sour likespoiled chicken but left the after taste of having been washed in a bath of dumpster water. WTF.
Certainly, the love of money makes this highly efficient. Ifyou have not found what's behind this evil adulteration , consider below enlightening motive... The price for our eliberation out of this cursed bottomless pit / earth , has been paid with the Saving One's blood Yahshua . Our rebelion and ignorance is cursed as per Psalm 69 : 22. Which points the trap of welfare and our food. Go.. read it
That’s exactly the point. Nobody can resist sugar/ fat/carb combinations. It’s addictive and he like so many of us grew up with too much sugar in his diet. It takes will power to say no so he recognises that we all need help, information and legislation. Better to hear from a guy who understands the constant struggle
The message is sound - don't accept unacceptable food standards - but he discredits himself so many times in his book. Eg. "Everyone has a homeostatic calorie level, so dieting is pointless" and "KFC is cultural appropriation, hence racist", to name just a couple of laugh-out-loud moments of nonsense
No, i dont agree. This issue is layered and complex and 15 minutes wouldn't do it justice. The current food environment is decades in the making and I certainly don't think a discussion on the origins of, and how to unwind, an entrenched system can be done properly in 15 mins. Thank you for the producers of this podcast, I genuinely think this info can save lives and alleviate so much physical, emotional and mental pain
What's your biggest takeaway from the episode? 🧠
My biggest takeaway was a triple Big Mac. No! This is great stuff. If it isn’t real don’t eat it. ❤
Did he ever mention personal responsibilities, or was it all about those terrible TNCs?
Did he ever mention personal responsibilities? Oh, those evil TNCs!!!
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Why are you advertising HUEL in this podcast about UPF's ?😢
Knowledgeable without being patronising , a rare skill.
This time last year I weighed 173kg and had full blown type 2 diabetes. Saw a health coach/dietician who started educating me about UPF, then soon after the algorithm figured it out and started showing me Dr VT. Went through my cupboards and fridge and tossed everything ultraprocessed - full scorched earth elimination. In the last year I've shed 47kg, resumed training Brazilian Jiu Jitsu 3x a week and started running 3x a week. The diabetes is now in remission and I no longer need to take any meds to regulate blood sugar levels. Chris is doing the Lord's work, along with the likes of Tim Spector and Rob Lustig. Their messaging has been absolutely instrumental in turning my situation around and keeping me out of an early grave. Still need to drop another 20-30kg but I'm on the right track now.
Totally agree on Robert Lustig and Tim Spector and can I add Jason Fung too
Wow, good going!
Well done, big fan of Rob Lustig he is truly knowledgeable
Great! I am taking this journey since this year (24 lost, around 10-15 to go). What Chris VT is for you an „equivalent tv-doctor“ in my country is for me. I feel the way you are going an i am so excited where it will lead me. Wish you all the best.
Well done and thank you for sharing. I found it very encouraging.
I’m glad this guy acknowledges how a lot of his accomplishments are due to luck in his circumstances. That’s an enormously difficult thing to keep in mind for people considered successful and those feeling useless.
I love this guy a lot, every time I wanna go eat ultraprocessed food, I watch him again and it made me stop to eat
Good idea. I'm actually good do this now. I love when I make a quiche or something healthy from scratch 😅
Dr van Tulleken is a superb science communicator. He deserves a much wider audience.
The part where they talked about being laughed at and ridiculed for talking about this really resonates with me. I have stopped trying to tell my family that the food they are eating is bad for them because they treat me like I'm a conspiracy theory nut. It's extremely frustrating because I have 5 grandchildren under 8 years old, from 3 daughters, who are being fed these substances and I can't do anything to stop it. I just hope things change before it's too late for them.
Parents have to teach this. We all know junk food is bad, but it's not taught so much, and a lot of people don't realise or don't care that much. It's especially hard because it's got stupid amounts of funding to be addictive.
@@tutacat Parents can't teach what they don't know themselves.
Perhaps I can help you with this. I had the same issue with my family and I noticed that they won't pay attention to "too refined" lectures about this matter. They tire easily. Just tell them that they're eating FAKE food. That made the trick for me. They don't want to hear the whole explanation, they will simply become curious and start reading the darn ingredient tags on their own 😑. They'll educate themselves. You cannot save someone who doesn't think that needs saving
I am 78 years old and you are my hero. I love what you do, I love your approach, you have saved me from the slippery slope of Ultra Processed food. You are saving lives every day because of enlightenment. Thank you thank you.
I’ve noticed my son’s behaviour is ridiculous when he’s been given sweets or eating ultra processed food. We now only give him fruit and veg as snacks. He’s allowed one treat day a month where he can go and spend 5 pounds at his local shop and what we’ve noticed is, he now comes home with reduced fruit and makes himself a fruit salad and he sits there eating it. He won’t ask for sweets anymore. His school work has improved. His sleep has improved his behaviour is amazing. Please stop letting your kids eat all the rubbish they want. It’s effecting every area of their life’s 😊
Chris is doing gods work. What he is saying will be seen as some of the most important research and work around public health in our lifetimes. Keep doing what you’re doing Chris and thank you
I like Chris Van T, he speak s a lot of sense. Excellent interview, thank you.
Dr Chris has made more sense to me about my weight struggles, than 40 years of yo yo dieting, always looking for the next healthy eating plan that is going to work, long term. Since January I have lost over 80lbs and will not be going back to my old habits or UPF's, I have my health back inc my mental health and feel better in my fifties than I ever have.❤.
After cutting out all of the junk and all processed foods for months, when I eat anything processed i can feel how not only my digestion changes but my mood and the general way i feel, it is amazing and they are highly addictive.
It’s crazy. After just one fast food meal you can feel absolutely awful the next day. It’s horrifying to realize I spent years eating that multiple times a week, on top of UPF ice creams and cookies and cakes. No wonder I felt like shit everyday.
When I was a kid I was very athletic and fit, I prided myself on being healthy. In my teen years I did a total 180 and became super unhealthy because I moved in with my aunt who ate fast food and drank multiple sodas DAILY. We had a soda cabinet in the house where we kept 24 packs of soda, and she would replenish them weekly. I gained SO much weight and so many chronic health issues.
I am so grateful I have the ability to take back control of my health! I feel AMAZING and I am never going back!
Thank you so much for rejecting the food industries’ financial offers so you can continue to be a voice of truth.
Chris ,you are hope personified. legend !
Chris, please keep going with your campaign. Recently stopped drinking, gone low carb, and trying to eat only real food. We need to win this battle!
All of us need to be spreading the word as well, we have a responsibility to the people we care about.
Dr Chris van Tulleken is my hero! Such a clear and eloquent speaker. Another great interview. Thank you 😊
Great interview! I would urge anyone who hasn't read Chris' book, "Ultra-Processed People' to rush out and get it! Be warned - it's life-changing! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Fantastic podcast interviewing a wonderful man. I have learnt so much from him as a person who has been a lifelong sugar addict. I hope the new UK Government listens to him and is courageous enough to instigate real change. Just one note.When Chris talks about the microbiome being disrupted by emulsifiers, he doesn't make the point that 70% of serotonin that is a happiness hormone is made in that gut and that a leaky, inflamed gut cannot perform well, thus affecting the mental health that Jake was trying to understand.
Wow that was a highly informative interview. Biggest takeaway: don’t eat takeaway.
It's so refreshing to see intelligent people at last speaking the truth with evidence.
It's a real struggle to be on whole cooked food 7 days a week if you haven't been to other places than the modern industrialised culture you are living in .
Unfortunately, the human connection between family life and healthy food is completely broken 💔 😮 in these countries.
He has a world of information and is a true humanitarian. Whenever I see him being interviewed, I always listen.
I don't know about the UK, but here in Canada you can also get his book - physical book, e-book and audiobook - at libraries. I wish he would mention that, to look in the library. I've got it out for a second time and am re-reading it, a fantastic book!
I live in Australia where we also have a health / obesity crisis. I recall spending a month in Rome with extended family many years ago.
The entire time, everybody had smaller portions than what I was used to. Nobody snacked between meals. They ate their food slowly, putting their fork down between bites savouring their meals with the occasional glass of wine. My cousins children did not eat any ultra processed food. I saw “one” boiled lolly being eaten by a 5 year old. She asked for another one and her mother said “Basta”….(enough in Italian) I was shocked. They are all thin. Many go for slow walks after dinner. I also saw ice-cream being eaten once. It wasn’t in their freezer. They had to go and buy it. Everybody had 2 scoops. Not a large bowl full of icecream as I see being eaten here in Australia. They eat real food, Period. Where have we gone wrong?
It probably has to do something with how settler colony countries don't have a lot of history/culture. I feel like in countries like Italy where the culture and history goes back for many millennia, they already have grandfathered in food culture and are unwilling to let the food industry wreck that.
That was many years ago. I was in Rome (and other places in Italy) last year, and many Italians are now obese. So are the children. It was so bad that I remember feeling somewhat shocked.
There are a lot of regulations in Europe. Lots of additives are not even allowed to be used. Worse for businesses but better for people. Even so the obesity is on rise in European countries. But not in so extreme form like in US.
@@LethalLemonLimeU.K. has a long history of culture but has followed America’s path to obesity
@@antmanandthecod6073 and we've also been eating meat pies since the 14th century. Difference is, we all eat more and don't have to plough fields by hand.
Power to Dr. Chris. I've listened to him speak on this issue on a few videos. I personally love hearing about the inside of the food industry: such as Coke funding certain things, or when he read out the email from McDonalds etc... (sounds like they want to pay him so they can use it against him in the future).
He's so right about the financial aspect of these issues.
I always think about those top food scientists who put all their efforts into this manipulated bad food for a pay check. We all have to make a living i suppose, but id love to know how those guys really feel about their work (and what their kids eat).
Keep shouting your message Dr. Chris.
The interview was kind of all over the place but I've read his book and it is fantastic! He does such a good job of explaining UPFs and how they've become part of every meal. He does a wonderful job at exposing what drives food companies.
The cost of real food is ridiculous. I think one of the reasons I'm able to eat whole foods or real food all the time is because I have an ok job and live alone with no dependents. Even then, I still spend £60 to £70 a week on meat, veg, eggs, dairy, fruit, nuts, seeds. For that amount of money, I could probably buy at least two or even three weeks worth of frozen sausages, frozen mince, and 2kg bags of frozen chips, pasta, supermarket brand sauce and tins, loaves of cheap white bread, luncheon meat etc. The reverse needs to be the case.
But when you spend money on real food you’re investing in your health and longevity. I’ve heard people complain that they can’t afford fresh fruit and veg and the next minute they’re discussing buying a new TV! It’s a question of priorities. You really are doing right by yourself, good for you
As I listen to this, I'm making my daughter and her kids a lasagna. She is getting over covid. From start to finish I'm looking at many hours before it's ready. It's totally understandable why time-poor people opt for the same meal in a box.
But you can put veg in yours grated and it’s healthier.
Totally. Absolutely it's understandable, this is why we have to make systemic change. The idea that we all have free choice about our food when the poorest and busiest people have so much less time and money than the richest and least busy is just silly.
food doesn't have to take a long time or be expensive. But the person cooking it does have to have some knowledge of food. I learnt from my mother and school also taught us how to prepare useful dishes not the thing's they do now. Also it's not only the poor who eat ultra processed food, I take issue with that!
@@carolkinchit’s quite boring but I like chicken/fish/beef some rice and veg - I’d happily eat that 4-5 time a week 😂
@Elspm We need to stop thinking in black and white terms about advantage and disadvantage, opportunity and lack of opportunity when it comes to achieving a healthy diet across the socioeconomic strata. Just because a person makes more money doesn’t necessarily mean that they have more time to cook than those who have less money (they often do not). Just because someone is low income and doesn't have access to some food products that are affordable and accessible to people of greater income doesn’t mean they don't have any resource to do better at all.
Thank you excellent interview , I could listen to this guy all day , so interesting. We all need to wake up 😢
Big fan of Chris here, I hope he's for real.
I'm currently in Mexico on vacation. I am astonished at the rates of obesity and metabolic syndrome here...over 90% by my estimate. Supermarkets are full of non-food i.e. highly processed rubbish that doesn't even look like food to me. Everything is cooked in vegetable seed oils.
I love listening to Dr. van Tulleken, thank you for this incredibly informative interview.
I always focus on eating real whole food made from scratch and hardly ever dine out. If out, I’ll order salads and or streamed veg with no oil or dressing, maybe a Greek or goats cheese salad. If there’s nothing suitable when out with others, I’ll just not eat. On holidays I’ll buy super market foods like salad, cheese, Greek yogurt, berries, boiled eggs, nuts and eat in my hotel room our picnic outside. I focus on plenty of protein. I don’t consume seed oils. I’m totally uncompromising and frankly don’t care what others think. It’s basically like, eat real food like your life depends on it. I also walk a lot, have a treadmill desk, lift heavy weights, meditate, use sauna, and ensure I get good sleep. Also also ditched all alcohol (used to drink dry red wine), after watching Andrew H podcast. I feel amazing at 53. I’ve actually never been overweight, I’m approx 8 1/2 stone and I’ve been a strict vegetarian since age 14, but reckon animal protein is good (it’s just my personal choice). I’m deeply cynical about big food and big pharma.
I admire your discipline.
Respect
This (USP food) is an "Industrially produced edible substance designed to take your health and turn it into money for investors
Food is about love and community and health and family"
Fantastic words
Excellent interview, Chris came across so humble. Really impressed with everything he said!
When I see Chris van Tulleken, I like, comment and subscribe!
dear Dr. Chris, if it is any consolation, you don't have to be an esteemed academic to make a significant clinical meaning ful impact on an individual's life and society. you have made a wonderful positive impact with your book and podcast. thank you so much for your contributions to individual and public health. Best wishes, Reimara Valk
Von Tulleken's story makes it patently if not painfully obvious. At the heart of just about everything is social equality or more exactly supportive stability with parents who do not have more children than they can love and remember the names of preferably in a stabile society where the do not have to move until they go to university or vocational school.
When I'm sick and don't have an appetite, yet I am hungry, there are certain UPFs that I turn to.
Outside of this one circumstance, I am quite grossed out by UPF substances. I ate some chocolate the other day, and it tasted like plastic - I usually only eat 70% or higher cocoa dark chocolate.
I used to love junk as a child, teen, and 20-something young adult. I would eat them like an addict.
But now I'm older, they taste like synthetic chemicals and have weird textures that make me sick....
You can absolutely train your taste out of junk and into enjoying real foods. Especially if you fall in love with the other benefits of eating real foods.
Me again, I get the part about no stove top however there are hot plates and even most in studio flats / a room have a microwave. Takeaway and pre-prepared food is expensive. There is lots of nutrient dense, healthy cheap food (eggs, Aldi Greek yogurt, cheese, some fruit and veg etc) and eating these type of foods leads to satiety (feel full, for longer), so you can end up eating less, and perhaps have 2 main meals a day, also goes well with time restricted eating / intermittent fasting. What Chris is saying is much needed education and we need much more of this, such as the work of the Public Health Collaborative which promotes real food, low carb ways of eating. Keep up the great work.
Huge thanks I thought I didn't eat Ultra processed but after listening to u I realise l did like doritos and vege sausags and pasta with "3 times thefibre" etc so after a week I could feel the difference I wasn't hungry all the time
I bought the book and am spreading the word
Australia is the same as UK no decent food labelling no black hexagon
For the folks who may be finding it difficult to get a lot of real food, you can hack it a bit if you have access to a small rice cooker, rice, and eggs. That's all you need. No need for a fridge, or even a counter or a kitchen.
Cook a bowl of rice, put it into a bowl. Crack the egg over it while it's still piping hot and mix well. Should cook the egg. Season with salt and pepper. Maybe drizzle in soy sauce or some vinegar. Add veggies and protein as they are available. Could also use the rice cooker to poach those, too, before cooking the rice.
Everyone, check the ingredients that go in the food your kids eat for their lunch in schools...after I did it, I swaped to pack lunches for them...
Keep going Chris !! The movement will only ever gather momentum and positive change will be inevitable as it was with the tobacco industry.
I got away from processed food, permanently, about 12 years ago. So, to me, the notion that people are still eating it at virtually every meal, is totally bizarre, in the same way I'd think about a meth addict and their habit.
Interested to know what the Huel behind the hosts have in them?
Ha I wondered the same, thought there was an irony to it.
Huel sounds like the sound of retching. And it looks like vomit as well.
Corporation's & greed has caused all problems ❗
When the people owned the shop's before the Corporation's monopolised everything this wasn't a problem...wake up ❗
Great interview. Really like Chris, need more guys like him
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Eating healthy shouldn’t be difficult, but for some it is and it infuriates me that the food industry is so keen and ready to exploit that …just for profit!
Exactly and the industry know human weakness and how to exploit it for their profit.
Currently sat on a bus, watching a mother feeding a child Skittles and regular coke. Education is needed urgently.
Can't change others, but oneself. We need to be educated to be aware and mindful.
@@harvinderubhi5540You completely missed the point of this ENTIRE conversation, and this man’s entire mission. People cannot make informed decisions without information. The only reason you and I know these things is because we have access to the information. Not everyone does, and they deserve to.
Your “everyone for themselves” attitude is part of the reason we ended up in this position as a society in the first place. You need to grow up.
@@introusas I was not addressing the conversation, but the comment in the thread.
Love Chris Van Tulleken
Amazing interview and thumbs up to the interviewers too 👍
Love the fact there's three cans of Huel in the background for this.
I was waiting for somebody I had a chicken sandwich at a fast food joint and after eating I was hungry so I had another one then I was really hungry and I had a third I was really really hungry then I stopped and never went back I realized that food should sate you not make you more hungry. Food addiction is more difficult than heroin because you don't have heroin in ketchup you don't have your breakfast cereal with sugar in it you don't have to sprinkle a little bit of heroin on your breakfast and then try and not take it the rest of the day whereas with sugar you do and it took me awhile to break the sugar habit because of yeast and endotoxins I eventually beat it but it still haunts me I still walk in grocery store and really really wanna buy something sweet. it's a lifelong problem.
Good video bit odd to see Huel advertising in the background based on what’s being discussed
Agreed, also surprised me that this channel would push TRT as well. Especially implying that 1 in 4 men need it. Surely the first step is diet and exercise.... TRT should be a last resort
A friend of mine brought up her daughter with phrases like "Behave yourself or you will not get extra sprouts/kale/spinach/green beans" / whatever
This obviously translates in the childs brain that these must be a 'good' thing - a reward!
The 'bubble' gets burst when the child goes to primary school and her peers tell her she has been duped and she should be rewarded with cake/sweets/McD whatever but it is now far too late for her to claim that she doesn't like the previously craved for and coveted "extra sprouts/kale/spinach/green beans" / whatever
this has blown my mind
Thank you for this, i found it so interesting and shocking what food companies get away with. If only it were as simple as us all voting with our wallets and being able to buy proper unprocessed food.
Food is not the problem. Businesses will make something else that is additive. The problem is that we have to learn basic maths, can work out the risk and benefit. The difficult one is that how to deal with our temptation and have some level of self-control.
good stuff . do more clips this was good
Love Chris VT.
Great info Thanks for sharing
Love this guy
Those seats make me feel uncomfortable just looking at them.
I cut the junk 10yrs ago, it was life changing for our whole family. I’ve since gone further and been carnivore for 4yrs now and I never knew it was possible to feel this good and be this healthy. He’s doing some good, it’s a start but some of his advice is wrong about fat and salt, for example good quality grass fed meat and Celtic sea salt these are really good for you, we need saturated fat, we need a lot of sea salt. Seed/veg oils are highly processed and toxic and should be avoided. Also table salt avoid that too.
The facts of life 💯
Great video and a shout-out to the world champion man-spreader in the blue shirt.
😂😂😂 the manspreading. Those chairs do not look comfy at all.
Inhave read the book, i am mainly a cook from scratch 'mum' ...i have been given the opportunity in my job to turn around school catering function aside from my day job. You talk about people taking the head out of the swamp but if you are in a part of the country where people dont know anything else than the swamp, and are comfortable in the swamp who are safe in the swamp, who dont have the means to get out of the seamp themselves, how do i get buy in from parents and carers to offer the children to get out of the swamp! advice required
I must have an addiction because i want the non-foods he was talking about.
He is spilling all the teas aha
I’ve heard on a few of the podcasts I watch that some of the food companies want to make some improvements (in relative terms to these shit food) however the shareholders are the blockers and also concerns about lack of regulation i.e. not a level playing field with other manufacturers. It’s really just best avoided.
You seem to have a really sensible attitude to food and health... How come I'm not like that,Cuz?!!🤟
Do you think you can do a video on the carnivore diet?
I’ll go ahead and do that for you:
“Carnivore diet is a high fat, low fiber diet and is extremely bad for your health.” Done.
@@introusas everythings bad for you
Kellog's are "sponsoring" UK kids breakfast clubs, that's how insiduous this industry is.
Lose the Huel bottles. You lose credability. Chris is fantastic!
Is it the ultra processed food having all these negative effects as a result of the ingredients or is it ultra processed food causes people to be overweight or obese and that causes the issues.
And of course the consequences of these foods will overwhelm the NHS.
22:55 these "engineered" products ARE actually coming from real food but they have been isolated so much that the micros that suppose to do that job, are now out of work and the body doesn't know what to do with it.
Low Carb or ultimately Carnivore should be the human ultimate goal, Carnivore is how humans evolved to eat, we are higher up the food chain and Carbohydrates are not essential and not needed, however to get the most out of Carnivore you are what the animal eats and these days farm animal welfare and how they are fed (except Cows and Sheep and so called organic meat) is not good. As you already know, changing ones way of eating to Low Cab or Carnivore is not about weight loss, it's about getting ones Metabolic Health to an optimum state. Steroids seem to be the latest money earner for the Pharmaceutical industry and doctors and nurses pushing them onto cohorts via the NICE guidelines, I'm mentioning this because I'm Carnivore for the past year (Low Carb before that) and have been pushed Asthma steroids which caused weight gain, because these steroids impede protein synthesis. N.B. my Asthma did 99% go away (still got asthma attacks from mold spores in clothing) when I started Low Carb, but now it has returned, Asthma is virus induced too, plenty of that around lately. Anyway, avoid Steroids to see true results with Carnivore.
i hope when he said the biggest piece of advice he ever received is for children to only drink milk & water he didn't mean cow's secretions
Recall when smoking was being taxed to persuade people to stop. Some said. It's unfair on the poor because smoking is one of the few enjoyments they have...Looking back that argument now seems mad and nearly criminal
I wonder if the new government could do something about this.
Pretty poor when chocolate milk is being advertised on a film about UPF.
Eat shit food, take unnecessary highly toxic drugs = huge win win for the mega drug and food corporations. It's a revolving door business model for the corporate machine.
Who are the people who should be furious? It’s about choice. Some people make good choices, others do not.
Not food, mass produced edible substance...
Ugh a bro channel. Really appreciate Dr Van Tulleken, but I can hear him on much better channels.
Yeah, keep looking at the food industry while totally ignoring the drug industry 🤨
You’ve made a video about the evils of ultra processed food and you’re advertising Huel in the background which is ultra processed. You’ve lost all credibility there. You don’t want to help people be healthy, you just want advertising money. Hypocrites
no i dont want a pod.. my bed is already too high!
I just want some chicen... My ah ha was when I ate a chicken nugget and it not only tasted sour likespoiled chicken but left the after taste of having been washed in a bath of dumpster water. WTF.
Certainly, the love of money makes this highly efficient. Ifyou have not found what's behind this evil adulteration , consider below enlightening motive...
The price for our eliberation out of this cursed bottomless pit / earth , has been paid with the Saving One's blood Yahshua .
Our rebelion and ignorance is cursed as per Psalm 69 : 22.
Which points the trap of welfare and our food.
Go.. read it
Are you aware that your very own podcast has intermittent ads for junk food?!? Ironic 😞
wierd how this guy talks about this, but he doesnt get down to the details.
Dude couldn't resist a caramel slice at my work's cafe when he visited a few years ago
That’s exactly the point. Nobody can resist sugar/ fat/carb combinations. It’s addictive and he like so many of us grew up with too much sugar in his diet. It takes will power to say no so he recognises that we all need help, information and legislation. Better to hear from a guy who understands the constant struggle
Too much activism, not enough realism.
Eat whole foods 🍌
He advises WHO? Bad move.
The message is sound - don't accept unacceptable food standards - but he discredits himself so many times in his book. Eg. "Everyone has a homeostatic calorie level, so dieting is pointless" and "KFC is cultural appropriation, hence racist", to name just a couple of laugh-out-loud moments of nonsense
So much crap advertised. Pick better sponsors
Bullshit.Eating some processed food won't do you any harm at all but smoking one cigarette a day is not good at all.
It will do you harm but keep going if you think that and good luck
Evidence?
The ideal podcast should be 15 minutes or less. Cut out all the BS.
No, i dont agree. This issue is layered and complex and 15 minutes wouldn't do it justice. The current food environment is decades in the making and I certainly don't think a discussion on the origins of, and how to unwind, an entrenched system can be done properly in 15 mins. Thank you for the producers of this podcast, I genuinely think this info can save lives and alleviate so much physical, emotional and mental pain
There are many short videos out there, free for you to watch. I seek out longer videos because I want in depth information.