At 0:54, on reading. I think it was an old western, The Lone Ranger, where cavalry soldiers were in negotiation with an Indian chief and his aids, who never learned to read. The soldiers did read, however, and upon exchanging hand-written messages, the chief and his aids were astonished at what manner of sorcery these soldiers wielded, enabling them to read each others minds! At 1:33 on hard-wiring versus cultural stuff. I'd take the controversy even farther. There is *no* aspect of brain structure that is hard-wired, in the sense of genetic programming or DNA "blueprint". The brain is a living colony whose wiring (self-organization) begins in the womb... nay, at conception. In his book The Brain That Changes Itself Norman Doidge begins on the right track with his important insight that culture wires the neuroplastic brain, but then makes the classic mistake of attributing neural plasticity to genes and adaptive traits. That's a mistake because neural plasticity is a fundamental principle, relating to agency theory, and not an incidental "adaptive trait" of natural selection. The broken physicalist narrative dies hard in the life sciences, and a stake has to be driven through its black heart, kill it stone dead. Genes and DNA are still very important, of course, but not in the sense of one-way, bottom-up causation. There's something else going. At 2:54 touches on metaphor. Indeed, metaphor is more important than Chatterjee is able to unpack within the interview's time constraints. Crucial to understanding the role of meaning in culture. So important is metaphor that our role models provide the metaphors around which we build our identities and even our gender roles. Metaphor - it relates directly to association, illusion and semiotic theory (CS Peirce).
Do you want to read a world-class illustrious master aesthetician and Wise-man? Ananda K Coomaraswamy!! Just Wow. Start with 'The Essentials AKC'. Currently reading 'Time & Eternity'. Nobody today can illustrate like this ^ Know what - It seems that these "physicist" followers today are envious of Philosophers because they can not 'see' like Coomaraswamy can and only have an undeveloped thesis to fall back on. Only if you're a genuine student of Heart and Ardor should you get the book I recommend.
This is a very important and dangerous topic because none of us choose: our country, parents, personality, language, culture, education system, government, staus quo and yet we cleave to this things for identity and even validation from others alike; and if you want to make it in your now familiar milieu, you must conform. The beliefs of people did not come from Heart; and because we nolonger are of Heart, grounds of the Soul, the lotus of Spirit, do we deal with such turmoil and quarrels first within ourselves and then projected outwards. We are fighting with ourselves. It is ridiculous - nefarious and sinister and hideous - what is occurring today. There's a guy here who comments, Rizwan rafeek, he proselytizing every time he comments and ridicules, degrades in supercillious impertinent way The Christ and Bible, and do know RR lives in a country that outlawed the Bible, nor does he care to understand what he is ridiculeing or even why he does - he does because he is a simpleton and only feels good about himself and his belief when putting others down. If his belief was true, it would attract others, but it doesn't and he can not deal with this fact. Just like politicians putting down others to make themselves look "good", as when they stand alone they're never seen as good.
...that´s a very intriguing question: is higher intelligence even possible without written language or better the synonym of it information? - it is not - ergo information is synonymous to intelligence...
*"does physical brain have something that facilitates reading and learning?"* ... That's like asking if a CPU has something that facilitates information processing or if fire has something in it that that generates heat. Some things simply are what they are.
@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC thats a very unfalsifiable, and unscientific assumption. This answer serves effectively as an apathetic and pathetic attempt at saying "I don't know and we shouldn't care" Brocas and Wernickes and the mirror neurons involved with NLP are very much understudied. Otherwise we would've cured dyslexia and learning disabilities related to reading and writing. So you're wrong and unhelpful
@@SecretEyeSpot *"thats a very unfalsifiable, and unscientific assumption. This answer serves effectively as an apathetic and pathetic attempt at saying "I don't know and we shouldn't care""* *Person #1:* Why are U.S. dimes only worth 10 cents? *Person #2:* Because that's their established value. Some things simply are what they are. *"So you're wrong and unhelpful"* ... (see above).
@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC accepting teleologic answers about human designs are one categorical order of answers that can be offered. However, understanding the history or underlying mechanisms of non designed systems like brains and their ethology are not telelogical by definition and providing answers from that perspective fails to account for alternative "designs", and therefore fails to account for maladaptions and what produces their disabilities in humans
@@SecretEyeSpot *"accepting teleologic answers about human designs are one categorical order of answers that can be offered."* ... Maybe, but that's still outside the realm of physics. *"However, understanding the history or underlying mechanisms of non designed systems like brains and their ethology are not telelogical by definition"* ... I don't recall any incontrovertible decisions being made on that. Nobody has ever demonstrated that non-sentient systems serve no purpose. *"and therefore fails to account for maladaptions and what produces their disabilities in humans"* ... Product manufacturers often deal with defective parts. These "defects" determine whether they will survive in their environment and if they can fend off the encroachment of competitors. Evolution is not limited to biology, and just because humans "make things" doesn't mean what we create is any different than what the universe has been doing for 13.8 billion years. The only difference is that we know what we've done and why we did it.
Culture, technology, etc....in fact, all our present attempts to search for knowledge, including writing, reading and even CTT itself, are the scaffoldings that MUST be dismantled and forgotten once the building (ultimate knowledge) is complete. But the problem with human race as a whole is that no one even has the slightest idea what that final building should look like. Hence all are united in believing that search for knowledge itself is the purpose of life and keep designing more and more scaffoldings for building an imaginary structure, whose ultimate shape is unknown to anybody. If we instead set discovering the mathematical model of the mechanism how particle interactions inside the earth compose seeds, water and fertilizers to develop PLANTS from soil and deliver parts of bodies of beings as food for already delivered ones to assemble, then we can rectify the errors in that process, once we discover it, and sustain individual life eternally using that knowledge alone for terraforming and populating all upto now unpopulated celestial bodies, after retracing all the beings that ever lived on this earth. That is the picture of THE ULTIMATE ABSOLUTE KNOWLEDGE, after acquiring which all these scaffoldings should be dismantled, discarded and forgotten.
If children learning to read English ever considered it, the structure of the written word in English is confusing. So many combinations of letters can make the same sound. Thus, intuitively, children are compelled to accept inconsistency and bizarre logic, right from the get-go of reading.
That's one downside, and strictly related to reading and writing. The upside is that its easy to convert Hard Languages into English and create Pidgins, Patois, and Creoles from it when speaking it
@@SecretEyeSpot This also makes English contextual. Children learn to discern context very young since many words have layers of alternate meanings. GB Shaw tried to establish a trust to simplify the alphabet and thus the phonics of the language and to give each word a single meaning.
@@chyfields what a futile endeavor. Does he not know the kennings and cognates that are in English come from other languages, and may have originated from entirely different meanings? Notwithstanding slangs and nicknames
X-Files Cognition and Culture For the hostile alien vampires (greed) to comprehend earthling human beings (love)...is like giant a**holes in space trying to comprehend the stars (light and warmth) that they suck out of heaven (joy, beauty and harmony). And for a rich man (greed) to enter the kingdom of heaven...is like trying to drive a camel through the eye of needle. Human cognition and culture Transforming frowns into smiles is smarter than turning lead into gold. And transforming heaven (peace) into hell (war) is more ignorant (dead) than turning gold into lead. Vampire cognition and culture Working in the dark to suck the "vital forces" (health, wealth, welfare, social security, future and joy) out of humans is what qualifies as brilliance to the hostile evangelical vampires (greed) that rule US. Investing into these "vital forces" is not part of the vampire narrative. Like bats that fly around in the darkness of caves...vampires (greed) are blind and cannot see the ignorance of transforming heaven (peace) into hell (war). The capitalist counting corpses are also blind and cannot see the ignorance of destroying the planet. "The perception of beauty is a moral test." Henry David Thoreau. This is the real IQ test. This test also determines if one is human. Light and truth (love) cause vampires (greed) great pain and suffering. That's why the words compassion, understanding, society (socialism), community (communism), "care for all" and "green new deal" cause the capitalist counting corpses that rule US such misery. But the words sanction, starve, torture, murder and bomb are encouraged. Because these ugly words suck the joy out of humans with their ignorance (hate). The hostile evangelical vampires (greed) are inhumane because they are not human. The capitalist counting corpses commit crimes against humanity because they are not human. The alien monsters are extremely "desperate" to control a darkship called the Whitehouse. Because working in the dark to suck the joy out of life and destroy the planet is the only way that the loveless, lifeless parasites can survive and thrive. It's also how the hostile alien invaders keep their human capital (cattle) corralled. Unlike earthling poets, artists, musicians, mystics, human beings and creators of joy...the capitalist counting corpses that rule US can't create harmony (real intelligence) because vampires (greed) are far worse than stupid. The loveless, lifeless parasites are ignorant (dead). Vampires (greed) who suck the joy out of life have joined the zombies who eat the futures of their children. Zombie Apocalypse is here and happening now. Question. Why are the evangelical counting corpses using the bible as a springboard to perform somersaults to do the exact opposite of "love their neighbors" and "treat others like they want to be treated"? Answer. This is sick. Because these simple concepts are too far out there to grasp for vampires and zombies. Lead into gold Tears into roses Weapons into ploughshares Or at least weapons into pianos, paint brushes and joy creating stuff like that.
'White's 'fiddling' with humor, since the content went right over their head. A testament to the fact that literacy is neither a sufficient nor a necessary precondition for comprehension.
It is incorreted. I Wonder how guys ideia concern culture are in his definitions. Without definitions culture it hard to move fowards true in brains . For instance childrem arent Culture still has brains funcions. When adult has Culture but brains funcions are murky. Guys lack neurosience proceedings standard.
At 0:54, on reading. I think it was an old western, The Lone Ranger, where cavalry soldiers were in negotiation with an Indian chief and his aids, who never learned to read. The soldiers did read, however, and upon exchanging hand-written messages, the chief and his aids were astonished at what manner of sorcery these soldiers wielded, enabling them to read each others minds!
At 1:33 on hard-wiring versus cultural stuff. I'd take the controversy even farther. There is *no* aspect of brain structure that is hard-wired, in the sense of genetic programming or DNA "blueprint". The brain is a living colony whose wiring (self-organization) begins in the womb... nay, at conception. In his book The Brain That Changes Itself Norman Doidge begins on the right track with his important insight that culture wires the neuroplastic brain, but then makes the classic mistake of attributing neural plasticity to genes and adaptive traits. That's a mistake because neural plasticity is a fundamental principle, relating to agency theory, and not an incidental "adaptive trait" of natural selection.
The broken physicalist narrative dies hard in the life sciences, and a stake has to be driven through its black heart, kill it stone dead. Genes and DNA are still very important, of course, but not in the sense of one-way, bottom-up causation. There's something else going.
At 2:54 touches on metaphor. Indeed, metaphor is more important than Chatterjee is able to unpack within the interview's time constraints. Crucial to understanding the role of meaning in culture. So important is metaphor that our role models provide the metaphors around which we build our identities and even our gender roles. Metaphor - it relates directly to association, illusion and semiotic theory (CS Peirce).
Do you want to read a world-class illustrious master aesthetician and Wise-man? Ananda K Coomaraswamy!! Just Wow. Start with 'The Essentials AKC'. Currently reading 'Time & Eternity'.
Nobody today can illustrate like this ^
Know what - It seems that these "physicist" followers today are envious of Philosophers because they can not 'see' like Coomaraswamy can and only have an undeveloped thesis to fall back on. Only if you're a genuine student of Heart and Ardor should you get the book I recommend.
could metaphor and figurative thought indicate consciousness in nature and brain / mind?
This is a very important and dangerous topic because none of us choose: our country, parents, personality, language, culture, education system, government, staus quo and yet we cleave to this things for identity and even validation from others alike; and if you want to make it in your now familiar milieu, you must conform. The beliefs of people did not come from Heart; and because we nolonger are of Heart, grounds of the Soul, the lotus of Spirit, do we deal with such turmoil and quarrels first within ourselves and then projected outwards. We are fighting with ourselves.
It is ridiculous - nefarious and sinister and hideous - what is occurring today.
There's a guy here who comments, Rizwan rafeek, he proselytizing every time he comments and ridicules, degrades in supercillious impertinent way The Christ and Bible, and do know RR lives in a country that outlawed the Bible, nor does he care to understand what he is ridiculeing or even why he does - he does because he is a simpleton and only feels good about himself and his belief when putting others down. If his belief was true, it would attract others, but it doesn't and he can not deal with this fact. Just like politicians putting down others to make themselves look "good", as when they stand alone they're never seen as good.
...that´s a very intriguing question: is higher intelligence even possible without written language or better the synonym of it information? - it is not - ergo information is synonymous to intelligence...
does physical brain have something that facilitates reading and learning?
*"does physical brain have something that facilitates reading and learning?"*
... That's like asking if a CPU has something that facilitates information processing or if fire has something in it that that generates heat. Some things simply are what they are.
@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC thats a very unfalsifiable, and unscientific assumption. This answer serves effectively as an apathetic and pathetic attempt at saying "I don't know and we shouldn't care"
Brocas and Wernickes and the mirror neurons involved with NLP are very much understudied. Otherwise we would've cured dyslexia and learning disabilities related to reading and writing. So you're wrong and unhelpful
@@SecretEyeSpot *"thats a very unfalsifiable, and unscientific assumption. This answer serves effectively as an apathetic and pathetic attempt at saying "I don't know and we shouldn't care""*
*Person #1:* Why are U.S. dimes only worth 10 cents?
*Person #2:* Because that's their established value. Some things simply are what they are.
*"So you're wrong and unhelpful"*
... (see above).
@@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC accepting teleologic answers about human designs are one categorical order of answers that can be offered.
However, understanding the history or underlying mechanisms of non designed systems like brains and their ethology are not telelogical by definition and providing answers from that perspective fails to account for alternative "designs", and therefore fails to account for maladaptions and what produces their disabilities in humans
@@SecretEyeSpot *"accepting teleologic answers about human designs are one categorical order of answers that can be offered."*
... Maybe, but that's still outside the realm of physics.
*"However, understanding the history or underlying mechanisms of non designed systems like brains and their ethology are not telelogical by definition"*
... I don't recall any incontrovertible decisions being made on that. Nobody has ever demonstrated that non-sentient systems serve no purpose.
*"and therefore fails to account for maladaptions and what produces their disabilities in humans"*
... Product manufacturers often deal with defective parts. These "defects" determine whether they will survive in their environment and if they can fend off the encroachment of competitors.
Evolution is not limited to biology, and just because humans "make things" doesn't mean what we create is any different than what the universe has been doing for 13.8 billion years.
The only difference is that we know what we've done and why we did it.
Culture, technology, etc....in fact, all our present attempts to search for knowledge, including writing, reading and even CTT itself, are the scaffoldings that MUST be dismantled and forgotten once the building (ultimate knowledge) is complete.
But the problem with human race as a whole is that no one even has the slightest idea what that final building should look like. Hence all are united in believing that search for knowledge itself is the purpose of life and keep designing more and more scaffoldings for building an imaginary structure, whose ultimate shape is unknown to anybody.
If we instead set discovering the mathematical model of the mechanism how particle interactions inside the earth compose seeds, water and fertilizers to develop PLANTS from soil and deliver parts of bodies of beings as food for already delivered ones to assemble, then we can rectify the errors in that process, once we discover it, and sustain individual life eternally using that knowledge alone for terraforming and populating all upto now unpopulated celestial bodies, after retracing all the beings that ever lived on this earth.
That is the picture of THE ULTIMATE ABSOLUTE KNOWLEDGE, after acquiring which all these scaffoldings should be dismantled, discarded and forgotten.
If children learning to read English ever considered it, the structure of the written word in English is confusing. So many combinations of letters can make the same sound. Thus, intuitively, children are compelled to accept inconsistency and bizarre logic, right from the get-go of reading.
That's one downside, and strictly related to reading and writing. The upside is that its easy to convert Hard Languages into English and create Pidgins, Patois, and Creoles from it when speaking it
@@SecretEyeSpot This also makes English contextual. Children learn to discern context very young since many words have layers of alternate meanings. GB Shaw tried to establish a trust to simplify the alphabet and thus the phonics of the language and to give each word a single meaning.
@@chyfields what a futile endeavor. Does he not know the kennings and cognates that are in English come from other languages, and may have originated from entirely different meanings? Notwithstanding slangs and nicknames
X-Files
Cognition and Culture
For the hostile alien vampires (greed) to comprehend earthling human beings (love)...is like giant a**holes in space trying to comprehend the stars (light and warmth) that they suck out of heaven (joy, beauty and harmony).
And for a rich man (greed) to enter the kingdom of heaven...is like trying to drive a camel through the eye of needle.
Human cognition and culture
Transforming frowns into smiles is smarter than turning lead into gold. And transforming heaven (peace) into hell (war) is more ignorant (dead) than turning gold into lead.
Vampire cognition and culture
Working in the dark to suck the "vital forces" (health, wealth, welfare, social security, future and joy) out of humans is what qualifies as brilliance to the hostile evangelical vampires (greed) that rule US.
Investing into these "vital forces" is not part of the vampire narrative.
Like bats that fly around in the darkness of caves...vampires (greed) are blind and cannot see the ignorance of transforming heaven (peace) into hell (war). The capitalist counting corpses are also blind and cannot see the ignorance of destroying the planet.
"The perception of beauty is a moral test." Henry David Thoreau. This is the real IQ test. This test also determines if one is human.
Light and truth (love) cause vampires (greed) great pain and suffering. That's why the words compassion, understanding, society (socialism), community (communism), "care for all" and "green new deal" cause the capitalist counting corpses that rule US such misery.
But the words sanction, starve, torture, murder and bomb are encouraged. Because these ugly words suck the joy out of humans with their ignorance (hate).
The hostile evangelical vampires (greed) are inhumane because they are not human. The capitalist counting corpses commit crimes against humanity because they are not human.
The alien monsters are extremely "desperate" to control a darkship called the Whitehouse. Because working in the dark to suck the joy out of life and destroy the planet is the only way that the loveless, lifeless parasites can survive and thrive.
It's also how the hostile alien invaders keep their human capital (cattle) corralled.
Unlike earthling poets, artists, musicians, mystics, human beings and creators of joy...the capitalist counting corpses that rule US can't create harmony (real intelligence) because vampires (greed) are far worse than stupid.
The loveless, lifeless parasites are ignorant (dead).
Vampires (greed) who suck the joy out of life have joined the zombies who eat the futures of their children.
Zombie Apocalypse is here and happening now.
Question. Why are the evangelical counting corpses using the bible as a springboard to perform somersaults to do the exact opposite of "love their neighbors" and "treat others like they want to be treated"?
Answer. This is sick. Because these simple concepts are too far out there to grasp for vampires and zombies.
Lead into gold
Tears into roses
Weapons into ploughshares
Or at least weapons into pianos, paint brushes and joy creating stuff like that.
I wonder if it's too late for the appropriately named Mr. Chatterjee to get his tuition money refunded.
My guess is he just talked his way in:)
@@mrbwatson8081 I think universities have fallen on hard times and will take anyone who can fog a mirror.
@@whitefiddle 😂🤣😂
'White's 'fiddling' with humor, since the content went right over their head. A testament to the fact that literacy is neither a sufficient nor a necessary precondition for comprehension.
@@lokayatavishwam9594 And writing word clots like you just wrote is a testament to just how clueless you are. Good luck with that. 🤣
It is incorreted. I Wonder how guys ideia concern culture are in his definitions. Without definitions culture it hard to move fowards true in brains . For instance childrem arent Culture still has brains funcions. When adult has Culture but brains funcions are murky. Guys lack neurosience proceedings standard.
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